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00:00:30.460 The NBA comes under fire

00:00:32.080 for cowering to the brutal regime of communist China,

00:00:35.480 but the problem runs way deeper than the NBA,

00:00:38.240 infecting virtually all of corporate America,

00:00:40.780 Hollywood, and even the U.S. government.

00:00:43.060 We will examine the root cause of the trouble,

00:00:45.260 the eternal maxim,

00:00:46.640 he who pays the piper calls the tune.

00:00:49.060 Then, Matt Lauer is accused of violent rape,

00:00:52.980 but is the Me Too movement redefining rape

00:00:55.420 beyond the bounds of reason?

00:00:57.420 We will analyze, as it were, the evidence.

00:01:00.760 Finally, the mailbag, all that and more.

00:01:02.340 I'm Michael Knowles,

00:01:03.040 and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:11.880 This NBA issue is so much bigger than the NBA.

00:01:17.280 You've probably heard about the NBA issue.

00:01:19.220 I've been kind of avoiding the story all week

00:01:21.280 because I don't care about the NBA.

00:01:23.080 I don't care about most professional sports leagues.

00:01:25.460 I really only watch baseball and even that, not that often.

00:01:28.700 So I've been kind of out of it.

00:01:30.240 All of these names are new to me.

00:01:32.220 The issue is not new to me.

00:01:33.820 The issue is,

00:01:35.640 will American entities bow down to China

00:01:39.120 for that most holy dollar?

00:01:43.300 Will they give up their integrity,

00:01:45.080 give up their principles,

00:01:46.380 give up everything they believe in for mammon?

00:01:49.640 That's what it really comes down to.

00:01:51.240 And every step of the way in this NBA issue

00:01:55.460 has been so pathetic,

00:01:57.580 but it's not just the NBA.

00:01:59.240 So what happened with the NBA?

00:02:01.040 The NBA issue all began

00:02:04.240 when Daryl Morey of the Houston Rockets

00:02:07.680 tweeted out seven words.

00:02:11.460 Just a seven word tweet.

00:02:13.260 Fight for freedom, stand with Hong Kong.

00:02:16.180 And the context of this

00:02:17.160 is that the communist Chinese government

00:02:19.620 is clamping down on Hong Kong,

00:02:21.420 which is a politically independent entity.

00:02:23.800 It was controlled by the British for a hundred years.

00:02:25.760 And then the British,

00:02:26.800 in a moment of stupidity and weakness

00:02:28.600 in the 1990s,

00:02:30.220 decided to give Hong Kong back to China.

00:02:32.380 And everything has gone downhill since.

00:02:34.440 Because China is one of the worst regimes

00:02:36.640 in the history of the world.

00:02:38.140 And the West never should have given them back Hong Kong.

00:02:40.880 And now we are where we are,

00:02:42.600 which is that the brutal Chinese government

00:02:45.020 is going in and clamping down on protesters

00:02:47.180 because they've increasingly tried

00:02:51.140 to take political control away from Hong Kong

00:02:52.860 over the past two decades.

00:02:54.740 And they passed a new law

00:02:56.540 which would allow them

00:02:57.900 to extradite prisoners from Hong Kong.

00:03:00.220 So political dissidents, for instance,

00:03:02.040 they could just go into Hong Kong

00:03:03.240 and rip them back to mainland China.

00:03:05.020 China protested that.

00:03:06.320 Now they're clamping down.

00:03:07.360 One person has been shot already.

00:03:09.920 A lot of chaos in the streets.

00:03:13.100 So in the midst of all this,

00:03:14.880 I mean, this has been going on

00:03:15.500 for weeks and weeks now,

00:03:16.920 Daryl Morey comes out and says,

00:03:18.600 fight for freedom, stand with Hong Kong.

00:03:21.140 China didn't like that very much.

00:03:22.720 The Chinese consulate in Houston

00:03:24.200 expressed, quote,

00:03:25.180 strong dissatisfaction with Morey's tweet.

00:03:28.140 Okay, well,

00:03:29.880 I got your dissatisfaction right here.

00:03:31.380 Who cares what the Chinese government says, right?

00:03:34.540 Except the NBA makes a lot of money in China.

00:03:37.980 NBA has a lot of relationships in China.

00:03:41.120 Are you sure that's what you want to say,

00:03:43.160 Mr. Morey?

00:03:43.780 Are you sure?

00:03:46.240 Maybe we should.

00:03:47.260 And this is how it starts.

00:03:48.700 This is how the censorship starts.

00:03:50.800 And it infects every level of the government.

00:03:53.580 So after he makes his comments,

00:03:56.540 all of a sudden there's a sportswear brand,

00:03:58.940 Li Ning.

00:03:59.880 They sponsor some NBA players.

00:04:01.680 They announced they would suspend

00:04:03.540 business ties with the NBA.

00:04:05.140 Okay, that's fine.

00:04:06.640 That's just one,

00:04:07.300 that's just one hit.

00:04:08.780 Then Tencent,

00:04:10.000 which is the NBA's

00:04:10.920 exclusive digital partner in China,

00:04:13.160 said it would suspend

00:04:14.420 business relations with the Rockets.

00:04:16.840 So no more digital passes in China

00:04:20.120 to the Rockets.

00:04:22.060 The fans who bought the team pass

00:04:23.680 to watch the Rockets this season

00:04:25.000 would just have to choose a different team,

00:04:27.940 which is obviously not how sports works.

00:04:29.360 You want to watch your team,

00:04:30.180 you don't want to watch a different team,

00:04:31.260 but that's what happened.

00:04:32.340 Then the Chinese Basketball Association

00:04:34.540 canceled exhibition games

00:04:36.540 with the NBA affiliates

00:04:38.100 of both the Rockets

00:04:38.900 and the Mavericks later this month.

00:04:42.020 The Lakers-Nets exhibition game

00:04:43.600 in Shanghai did occur on Thursday,

00:04:46.520 but it was played without sponsors.

00:04:48.460 Media sessions for the teams were canceled.

00:04:50.120 So no money,

00:04:51.420 no publicity for it,

00:04:52.420 no point.

00:04:53.640 And Yahoo Sports was reporting

00:04:55.720 several NBA teams

00:04:56.840 were now planning for a scenario

00:04:59.060 in which the cap for the 2020-2021 season

00:05:02.300 could drop between 10% and 15%

00:05:05.420 because of the situation

00:05:07.140 with the NBA in China.

00:05:08.380 A lot of basketball fans in China,

00:05:09.720 a lot of people in China in general.

00:05:11.960 A lot more of this.

00:05:13.080 Sportswear brand Anta,

00:05:14.740 which works with a few NBA players,

00:05:17.400 announced that it would suspend

00:05:18.400 contract renewal talks with the NBA,

00:05:20.080 so they're going to lose money there.

00:05:21.540 An NBA Cares event in Shanghai

00:05:23.240 was canceled

00:05:23.980 by the Chinese Board of Education.

00:05:25.760 China is basically saying,

00:05:29.840 if you don't shut up

00:05:31.580 about our vicious,

00:05:33.000 evil political activities,

00:05:34.600 we're going to cut you off.

00:05:35.900 We're going to cut you off

00:05:36.520 from your money.

00:05:37.160 So how does the NBA respond?

00:05:39.680 This is a good American sports league.

00:05:42.420 They're being bullied

00:05:43.440 by an adversary of the United States,

00:05:45.540 a red communist,

00:05:46.820 disgusting, despicable government.

00:05:49.000 They're going to stand up to them, right?

00:05:50.560 No, they're not.

00:05:51.240 They're going to just beg for money.

00:05:52.900 NBA sends out an official statement,

00:05:55.060 quote,

00:05:55.340 We recognize that the views

00:05:56.820 expressed by Houston Rockets

00:05:57.980 general manager Daryl Morey

00:05:59.180 have deeply offended

00:06:00.540 many of our friends and fans in China,

00:06:02.680 which is regrettable.

00:06:04.320 While Daryl has made it clear

00:06:05.820 that his tweet does not represent

00:06:07.240 the Rockets or the NBA,

00:06:08.600 the values of the league

00:06:09.720 support individuals

00:06:10.700 educating themselves

00:06:11.760 and sharing their views

00:06:13.020 on matters important to them.

00:06:14.480 We have great respect

00:06:15.620 for the history and culture of China

00:06:17.800 and hope that sports and the NBA

00:06:19.520 can be used as a unifying force

00:06:21.240 to bridge cultural divides

00:06:22.580 and bring people together.

00:06:24.000 Sorry, excuse me.

00:06:28.420 What a disgusting,

00:06:31.120 weaselly,

00:06:32.540 horrific,

00:06:33.660 there is not one redeeming syllable

00:06:35.400 in that entire statement.

00:06:37.500 Because it's not that they have respect

00:06:38.900 for the people of China.

00:06:40.040 If they had respect for the people of China,

00:06:41.420 they'd support the overthrow

00:06:42.400 of their brutal regime.

00:06:44.340 They don't,

00:06:44.840 they obviously don't have respect

00:06:45.960 for their own country,

00:06:47.380 the United States.

00:06:48.100 What they have respect for

00:06:49.040 is the almighty dollar.

00:06:50.000 And so they send out this tweet

00:06:52.540 saying we would never support freedom.

00:06:54.420 Why would we want to fight for freedom?

00:06:55.600 We're the NBA.

00:06:56.440 Why would we want to fight for freedom?

00:06:57.620 We're an American sports league.

00:07:00.760 They send that out.

00:07:01.980 It wasn't just the NBA.

00:07:03.860 Houston's team owner,

00:07:05.020 Tilman Fertitta,

00:07:06.480 am I pronouncing that right?

00:07:07.520 I don't really care,

00:07:08.040 sent out a tweet

00:07:09.000 acknowledging

00:07:09.600 that Maury's opinions

00:07:11.100 do not reflect the views

00:07:12.480 of the Houston Rockets.

00:07:13.520 He said,

00:07:13.880 quote,

00:07:14.540 listen,

00:07:15.600 Maury does not speak

00:07:16.860 for the Houston Rockets.

00:07:17.920 Our presence in Tokyo

00:07:18.760 is all about the promotion

00:07:19.600 of NBA internationally.

00:07:21.220 We are not

00:07:21.940 a political organization

00:07:23.160 at ESPN.

00:07:26.260 Well,

00:07:26.500 you are a political organization.

00:07:27.760 You're supporting communist China.

00:07:29.780 Right?

00:07:30.280 You are political.

00:07:31.000 You are making a political statement.

00:07:32.440 The political statement is

00:07:33.220 we oppose

00:07:33.980 the pro-freedom protesters

00:07:36.180 in Hong Kong.

00:07:36.880 We oppose

00:07:37.980 one of the last bright spots

00:07:39.920 around China

00:07:41.200 and we support

00:07:42.220 the brutal communist regime.

00:07:45.600 And what happens then

00:07:46.900 for Daryl Maury?

00:07:47.900 He could either

00:07:48.940 stand firm,

00:07:50.340 hold his ground,

00:07:52.000 and I'll tell you

00:07:53.700 it's very important

00:07:54.960 to do that

00:07:55.420 when the outrage mob

00:07:56.240 comes for you.

00:07:56.840 Very important

00:07:57.360 to hold your ground

00:07:58.140 if you haven't said

00:07:59.220 anything wrong.

00:08:00.620 Maybe if you said

00:08:01.240 something right

00:08:01.880 and important.

00:08:03.700 So what does

00:08:04.540 Daryl Maury do?

00:08:05.340 He caves.

00:08:05.720 He sends out

00:08:06.500 an apology.

00:08:07.120 Quote,

00:08:07.640 I did not intend

00:08:08.420 my tweets

00:08:08.920 to cause any offense

00:08:10.020 to Rockets fans

00:08:10.920 and friends of mine

00:08:11.880 in China.

00:08:12.480 I was merely

00:08:13.120 voicing one thought

00:08:14.220 based on one interpretation

00:08:15.980 of one complicated event.

00:08:18.160 I've had a lot

00:08:18.740 of opportunity

00:08:19.300 since that tweet

00:08:19.980 to hear and consider

00:08:20.820 other perspectives.

00:08:22.020 You know,

00:08:22.420 like of our brutal

00:08:23.300 slave masters in China

00:08:24.580 who control us

00:08:25.840 because they control

00:08:26.620 all of our money.

00:08:27.580 I have also,

00:08:28.320 I added that part.

00:08:29.380 He didn't put that

00:08:29.840 in the statement.

00:08:30.300 He goes on.

00:08:30.740 I have always appreciated

00:08:32.120 the significant support

00:08:33.000 our Chinese fans

00:08:33.720 and sponsors

00:08:34.260 have provided

00:08:35.220 and I would hope

00:08:36.540 that those who are upset

00:08:37.520 will know that offending

00:08:38.680 or misunderstanding

00:08:39.340 them was not my intention.

00:08:40.920 Those who are upset,

00:08:41.680 by the way,

00:08:42.060 are communist

00:08:42.820 slave masters in China.

00:08:45.000 So he doesn't want them,

00:08:46.180 I'm sorry,

00:08:46.700 I didn't understand you,

00:08:48.080 you brutal,

00:08:49.380 degenerate communists.

00:08:51.340 He goes on.

00:08:52.160 My tweets are my own

00:08:53.300 and in no way

00:08:54.300 represent the Rockets

00:08:55.560 or the NBA.

00:08:56.420 We know that.

00:08:57.420 We know that

00:08:57.840 because the NBA

00:08:58.380 sucks up to China,

00:08:59.220 our adversary

00:09:00.520 because they have

00:09:01.300 no care for their country,

00:09:02.380 they have no care

00:09:02.820 for principles,

00:09:03.480 they have no care

00:09:03.960 for the people

00:09:04.440 fighting for freedom

00:09:05.300 in Hong Kong.

00:09:07.080 We know,

00:09:07.780 we know that the NBA

00:09:08.960 does not agree

00:09:09.900 with your tweets.

00:09:12.560 Not only

00:09:13.300 do we get that apology,

00:09:15.400 we get an apology

00:09:16.280 from the Rocket star

00:09:17.060 James Harden

00:09:17.640 who said,

00:09:18.140 quote,

00:09:18.480 we apologize,

00:09:19.400 we love China,

00:09:20.080 we love playing here

00:09:20.880 for both of us.

00:09:21.780 Individually,

00:09:22.340 we go there once

00:09:23.340 or twice a year

00:09:23.980 and they show us

00:09:24.580 the most support and love.

00:09:25.960 We appreciate them

00:09:26.580 as a fan base

00:09:27.260 and we love everything

00:09:28.240 they're about,

00:09:28.700 especially communism.

00:09:30.020 He didn't say that,

00:09:30.720 but that's the implication.

00:09:32.000 That's the only conclusion

00:09:33.100 you could draw

00:09:33.660 from his comment.

00:09:35.820 We appreciate the support

00:09:36.820 they give us individually

00:09:37.900 and as an organization.

00:09:40.660 How,

00:09:41.400 how pathetic.

00:09:43.680 And it's not just

00:09:44.480 that they're cowering to China,

00:09:45.840 it's not just

00:09:46.980 that the league

00:09:48.300 is cowering to China,

00:09:49.780 they're shutting down

00:09:50.880 freedom of the press

00:09:52.360 in the NBA

00:09:55.000 to suck up to China.

00:09:56.680 The rot runs so much deeper

00:09:58.080 but it goes all the way up

00:09:59.840 to the President

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00:11:38.080 Obviously,

00:11:38.800 this NBA issue

00:11:39.740 has generated

00:11:40.260 a lot of controversy.

00:11:41.320 Some reporters

00:11:42.700 have been asking about it.

00:11:44.460 Are they taking the questions?

00:11:45.740 Are they giving

00:11:46.100 serious answers?

00:11:46.940 No.

00:11:47.160 The people working

00:11:47.940 for the NBA

00:11:48.480 are now shutting down

00:11:49.560 the very reporters

00:11:51.040 themselves

00:11:51.600 so that they don't need

00:11:53.020 to answer

00:11:53.580 for their disgusting behavior.

00:11:55.880 Hi,

00:11:56.320 Christina McFarlane,

00:11:57.200 CNN.

00:11:58.140 The NBA has always been

00:11:59.680 a league that prides itself

00:12:00.880 on its player

00:12:01.440 and its coaches

00:12:02.020 being able to speak out

00:12:03.160 openly about political

00:12:04.520 and societal affairs.

00:12:05.820 I just wonder

00:12:06.760 after the events

00:12:07.740 of this week

00:12:08.620 and the fallout

00:12:09.280 we've seen,

00:12:10.200 whether you would

00:12:11.000 both feel differently

00:12:12.180 about speaking out

00:12:13.580 in that way

00:12:14.480 in the future.

00:12:17.940 It's a legitimate question.

00:12:19.480 This is an event

00:12:20.340 that's happened

00:12:20.760 this week

00:12:21.160 during the NBA.

00:12:24.260 This particular question

00:12:25.640 has not been answered.

00:12:27.980 James.

00:12:30.100 You can't ask

00:12:31.040 any questions here.

00:12:31.780 This is a press conference.

00:12:33.420 It's amazing

00:12:34.380 how quickly

00:12:34.980 the minute you sell

00:12:35.760 your soul

00:12:36.360 for the almighty dollar

00:12:38.100 you just become

00:12:38.820 like your slave masters

00:12:39.780 in China.

00:12:40.360 They're just behaving

00:12:40.960 like the Chinese government.

00:12:42.620 And Golden State Warriors

00:12:43.900 coach Steve Kerr,

00:12:44.900 same sort of issue.

00:12:46.760 Finally,

00:12:47.120 a reporter was able

00:12:47.760 to get to him

00:12:48.460 and the apparatchiks

00:12:50.500 of the NBA

00:12:51.060 weren't able to

00:12:51.840 hustle the reporter away.

00:12:54.320 And so he was asked

00:12:54.980 about this.

00:12:55.720 Listen to the kind

00:12:56.740 of weaselly

00:12:57.600 non-response he gives.

00:12:59.600 It's a really,

00:13:00.860 it's a really bizarre

00:13:04.080 international story

00:13:05.720 and a lot of us

00:13:09.060 don't know what to make

00:13:10.680 of it.

00:13:10.920 So it's something

00:13:14.000 I'm reading about

00:13:14.860 and just like

00:13:16.140 everybody is

00:13:16.860 but I'm not going

00:13:17.740 to comment further.

00:13:19.480 Oh my gosh.

00:13:20.620 It's not a bizarre

00:13:21.320 international story.

00:13:22.460 You have good people

00:13:23.240 in Hong Kong

00:13:23.800 and bad people

00:13:24.440 in China

00:13:24.860 and the bad people

00:13:25.600 in China

00:13:25.980 are trying to ruin

00:13:27.520 the good people

00:13:28.180 in Hong Kong

00:13:28.800 and we're talking

00:13:29.780 about not a complicated

00:13:31.080 issue.

00:13:31.640 We're talking about

00:13:32.320 an issue that's been

00:13:32.900 clear for at least

00:13:33.560 100 years.

00:13:35.040 And the only reason

00:13:36.040 you're pretending

00:13:36.520 that it's not clear

00:13:37.300 is because you are

00:13:38.360 afraid of losing

00:13:38.920 your job

00:13:39.300 with the NBA.

00:13:40.740 President Trump,

00:13:42.340 the ironic voice

00:13:43.660 of moral clarity.

00:13:44.740 People,

00:13:44.980 you know,

00:13:45.200 people go after him

00:13:46.820 because he's engaged

00:13:47.720 in highly publicized

00:13:48.920 immoral behavior

00:13:49.640 like extramarital affairs

00:13:51.060 and multiple marriages

00:13:52.320 and all this kind of stuff

00:13:53.060 and, you know,

00:13:54.680 he's mean to people

00:13:55.460 and he says mean things

00:13:56.660 and sure,

00:13:57.340 all that's true.

00:13:58.540 But when the rubber

00:14:00.160 meets the road,

00:14:00.760 when it comes to

00:14:01.200 important public issues,

00:14:03.160 this guy has

00:14:04.320 an uncommon moral clarity

00:14:06.020 and you see it here

00:14:07.420 as the NBA capitulates,

00:14:08.940 as so much of America

00:14:10.020 capitulates,

00:14:11.040 this guy,

00:14:12.140 President Trump,

00:14:13.560 puts the issue

00:14:14.200 into stark relief.

00:14:15.640 Well,

00:14:15.900 the NBA is a different thing.

00:14:17.080 I mean,

00:14:17.260 I watch this guy,

00:14:18.600 Steve Kerr,

00:14:19.140 and he was like

00:14:19.600 a little boy.

00:14:20.280 He was so scared

00:14:20.960 to be even answering

00:14:21.800 the question.

00:14:22.380 He couldn't answer

00:14:22.880 the question.

00:14:23.500 He was shaking.

00:14:24.280 Oh,

00:14:24.600 I don't know.

00:14:25.720 I don't know.

00:14:26.100 He didn't know

00:14:26.460 how to answer

00:14:26.880 the question.

00:14:28.100 And he'll talk

00:14:28.960 about the United States

00:14:30.060 very badly.

00:14:30.720 I watched Popovich,

00:14:33.540 sort of the same thing,

00:14:34.640 but he didn't look

00:14:35.140 quite as scared,

00:14:35.880 actually.

00:14:36.920 But they talk badly

00:14:37.960 about the United States,

00:14:39.060 but when it talks

00:14:39.900 about China,

00:14:40.600 they don't want to

00:14:41.020 say anything bad.

00:14:41.860 I thought it was

00:14:42.300 pretty sad,

00:14:42.900 actually.

00:14:45.660 It'll be very interesting.

00:14:48.260 Excuse me?

00:14:48.820 Are you okay,

00:14:49.440 then,

00:14:49.640 with the Chinese government

00:14:50.440 pressuring the NBA

00:14:51.340 over Hong Kong?

00:14:51.940 They have to work out

00:14:52.660 their own situation.

00:14:53.840 The NBA is,

00:14:54.880 they know what they're doing,

00:14:56.180 but I watch the way

00:14:57.920 that,

00:14:58.340 like,

00:14:59.520 Kerr,

00:15:00.120 and Popovich

00:15:01.100 and some of the others

00:15:02.320 were pandering to China

00:15:04.320 and yet to our own country,

00:15:06.060 they don't,

00:15:06.540 it's like they don't

00:15:07.120 respect it.

00:15:08.420 It's like they don't

00:15:09.040 respect it.

00:15:10.180 I said,

00:15:10.600 what a difference.

00:15:11.480 Isn't it sad?

00:15:12.400 It's very sad.

00:15:13.100 To me,

00:15:13.380 it's very sad.

00:15:14.260 This is the irony.

00:15:15.200 This is the real irony.

00:15:16.100 You have American

00:15:16.740 professional sports teams

00:15:17.900 that are encouraging people

00:15:19.200 to denigrate their own country,

00:15:21.000 the greatest country

00:15:21.820 in the history of the world.

00:15:22.820 That's not a statement

00:15:23.460 of preference.

00:15:24.120 That's an objective fact.

00:15:26.060 The most just,

00:15:26.980 the most equitable,

00:15:27.780 the most free,

00:15:28.420 the most prosperous,

00:15:29.180 the most generous country

00:15:31.100 in the history of the world

00:15:32.160 and they denigrate it

00:15:33.220 day by day by day

00:15:34.220 and I'm speaking

00:15:34.720 most specifically

00:15:35.620 of the NFL

00:15:36.640 but other teams as well,

00:15:38.660 other teams

00:15:39.140 and other leagues as well

00:15:40.240 and yet,

00:15:42.060 they bend over backwards.

00:15:43.920 They bend over

00:15:44.420 a lot of different ways

00:15:45.240 for communist China.

00:15:47.380 No one can tolerate

00:15:48.680 any disrespect

00:15:49.400 for communist China

00:15:50.500 and it's not just the NBA.

00:15:52.820 It's all over corporate America.

00:15:55.200 Apple.

00:15:55.960 Apple has now censored

00:15:57.620 the Taiwan flag emoji

00:15:58.760 in Hong Kong and Macau.

00:16:00.100 They've censored

00:16:00.820 a Hong Kong protest map

00:16:02.320 on their app store.

00:16:03.660 They gave away

00:16:04.480 iCloud data

00:16:05.360 and encryption keys

00:16:06.260 to China

00:16:06.740 all because

00:16:08.080 Apple needs China.

00:16:09.500 It needs China

00:16:09.940 to manufacture their products.

00:16:11.480 It needs China

00:16:12.240 to buy their products.

00:16:13.640 Activision.

00:16:14.920 Activision Blizzard.

00:16:16.300 Video game.

00:16:17.640 Banned a player

00:16:18.880 for supporting

00:16:19.580 the Hong Kong protest.

00:16:20.900 Confiscated

00:16:21.480 all of his wittings.

00:16:22.540 There's actually a great

00:16:23.120 on Reddit right now.

00:16:24.380 Actually,

00:16:24.980 Reddit is a little bit

00:16:25.680 in the pocket of China too

00:16:26.600 so they're probably

00:16:27.000 going to take this

00:16:27.580 down pretty soon

00:16:28.400 but there's a great list

00:16:29.380 of all of these

00:16:29.860 on Reddit.

00:16:30.300 Just a few.

00:16:31.840 Vans,

00:16:32.480 the shoe company,

00:16:33.560 censored a pro-Hong Kong

00:16:34.620 democracy design

00:16:35.500 in its shoe.

00:16:36.240 Disney and ESPN,

00:16:37.240 maybe the worst offenders,

00:16:38.600 banned any mention

00:16:39.720 of Chinese politics

00:16:40.840 related to this NBA issue.

00:16:42.640 Viacom and Paramount

00:16:43.520 censored the Taiwan flag

00:16:44.900 that should be

00:16:45.560 on Tom Cruise's jacket

00:16:46.720 in the new Top Gun movie.

00:16:49.060 They just took it out.

00:16:50.540 Disney and Marvel

00:16:51.440 censored a Tibetan monk

00:16:52.600 from Dr. Strange

00:16:53.940 and the screenwriter admitted

00:16:55.220 the reason they censored

00:16:56.020 the Tibetan monk

00:16:56.740 is because they want

00:16:58.040 to make money

00:16:58.580 out of China.

00:16:59.800 Marriott,

00:17:00.320 the hotel company,

00:17:01.040 apologized to China,

00:17:02.180 changed Taiwan

00:17:03.420 as its listing

00:17:04.740 for hotels

00:17:05.840 to Taiwan China.

00:17:07.700 Taiwan is not China.

00:17:08.860 Taiwan is separate

00:17:10.160 from the main

00:17:11.820 Chinese government.

00:17:12.600 Taiwan was the stronghold

00:17:13.700 of nationalist China

00:17:14.940 after the communist

00:17:16.340 revolution there.

00:17:17.280 Other companies,

00:17:17.980 Mercedes,

00:17:18.440 virtually every American

00:17:19.680 airline,

00:17:20.740 Audi,

00:17:21.220 Zara,

00:17:21.720 Ray-Ban,

00:17:22.200 Sheraton,

00:17:22.620 Princeton University,

00:17:23.820 JP Morgan,

00:17:24.600 lots of others,

00:17:25.560 all censoring themselves

00:17:27.360 for China.

00:17:29.580 U.S. government

00:17:30.320 does it too.

00:17:30.980 I remember

00:17:31.440 I was working

00:17:32.120 on a presidential campaign.

00:17:33.600 We were talking

00:17:34.000 to some candidates

00:17:35.360 and one of the big issues

00:17:37.540 then was whether

00:17:38.240 or not to label

00:17:39.020 China a currency manipulator.

00:17:41.620 Now,

00:17:42.060 now we're

00:17:42.540 getting tough

00:17:43.700 with China,

00:17:44.160 but back in

00:17:44.960 2010,

00:17:45.880 2011,

00:17:46.320 2012,

00:17:46.580 we weren't

00:17:47.140 getting tough

00:17:47.540 with China

00:17:47.920 and a lot

00:17:49.020 of candidates

00:17:49.420 wanted to back

00:17:50.140 off labeling

00:17:51.560 China a currency

00:17:52.260 manipulator

00:17:52.880 and they said,

00:17:53.380 well,

00:17:53.640 look,

00:17:54.080 if we label

00:17:54.580 China a currency

00:17:55.300 manipulator,

00:17:56.180 they could say

00:17:57.080 some things

00:17:57.560 about us

00:17:58.200 and let's not

00:17:59.040 forget,

00:17:59.500 they're our

00:17:59.820 largest creditors

00:18:00.920 so you gotta

00:18:01.680 be really careful

00:18:02.540 and we need

00:18:03.080 them for our

00:18:03.540 manufacturing

00:18:04.160 and it all

00:18:06.020 gets down

00:18:07.540 to the point

00:18:08.100 that he who

00:18:09.660 pays the piper

00:18:10.580 calls the tune.

00:18:12.960 This is the problem.

00:18:14.300 We thought,

00:18:15.180 we went around

00:18:15.880 for so long

00:18:16.880 and thought,

00:18:18.280 oh,

00:18:18.640 great,

00:18:19.000 look at all

00:18:19.300 these cheap

00:18:19.720 Chinese goods.

00:18:20.620 This is,

00:18:20.940 there's,

00:18:21.360 this is all

00:18:21.940 upside,

00:18:22.440 no downside.

00:18:23.320 Oh,

00:18:23.700 look at our

00:18:24.100 access to these

00:18:24.840 huge Chinese

00:18:25.560 markets for

00:18:26.300 our own

00:18:27.040 products and

00:18:27.580 our own

00:18:27.920 entertainment

00:18:28.360 and our

00:18:28.800 own Hollywood

00:18:29.500 movies.

00:18:30.840 Oh,

00:18:31.140 there's all

00:18:31.620 upside,

00:18:32.060 no downside.

00:18:32.560 There is

00:18:32.880 downside.

00:18:33.980 Look at all

00:18:34.620 this money

00:18:35.160 that's coming

00:18:35.580 in from China,

00:18:36.260 buying up

00:18:36.680 all of our

00:18:37.100 debt,

00:18:37.860 largest

00:18:38.300 creditor,

00:18:38.940 funding whatever

00:18:39.420 we want to

00:18:39.840 do around

00:18:40.140 the world,

00:18:40.600 funding our

00:18:41.000 unsustainable

00:18:41.540 entitlement

00:18:41.880 programs,

00:18:42.340 all upside,

00:18:43.040 no downside.

00:18:43.560 There is

00:18:43.920 downside.

00:18:44.660 There is

00:18:44.960 no such

00:18:45.480 thing as

00:18:45.780 a free

00:18:46.060 lunch.

00:18:47.260 He who

00:18:47.760 pays the

00:18:48.200 piper

00:18:48.480 calls the

00:18:48.900 tune and

00:18:49.200 it's so

00:18:49.720 insidious.

00:18:50.420 You see

00:18:50.840 it in a

00:18:51.200 small scale

00:18:51.760 in the

00:18:52.380 media.

00:18:53.080 When you,

00:18:53.640 when you

00:18:54.580 go on

00:18:55.120 media

00:18:55.960 platforms,

00:18:56.740 if you

00:18:57.160 say things

00:18:57.880 that the

00:18:58.920 people who

00:18:59.480 are putting

00:18:59.800 you on

00:19:00.020 that platform

00:19:00.540 don't like,

00:19:01.120 they'll kick

00:19:01.600 you off.

00:19:02.160 They'll throw

00:19:02.420 you out of

00:19:02.740 there.

00:19:03.540 It's not

00:19:03.920 politically

00:19:04.280 correct.

00:19:04.820 This is

00:19:05.100 what the

00:19:05.420 left uses

00:19:06.480 to completely

00:19:07.300 transform the

00:19:07.860 culture.

00:19:09.060 And there's

00:19:09.940 no greater

00:19:10.360 example of

00:19:10.940 the left

00:19:11.240 than a

00:19:12.460 communist

00:19:12.760 government.

00:19:13.200 The most

00:19:13.700 successful

00:19:14.040 communist

00:19:14.420 government

00:19:14.780 in history,

00:19:15.300 China.

00:19:17.180 And what

00:19:18.280 they do is

00:19:19.020 they say,

00:19:19.400 look, here's

00:19:20.740 all this money,

00:19:21.360 here's all this

00:19:21.800 success,

00:19:22.380 here's all this

00:19:22.880 wonderful stuff.

00:19:24.940 We would

00:19:25.520 prefer if you

00:19:26.400 don't criticize

00:19:27.600 what we're

00:19:28.140 doing in

00:19:28.500 Hong Kong.

00:19:28.920 You wouldn't

00:19:29.240 mind doing

00:19:29.680 that for us,

00:19:30.240 would you?

00:19:30.600 We're giving

00:19:30.940 you a billion

00:19:31.560 viewers.

00:19:32.360 You wouldn't

00:19:32.720 mind.

00:19:33.500 We're giving

00:19:33.840 you all this

00:19:34.240 money, all

00:19:34.640 these cheap

00:19:35.020 goods.

00:19:35.480 Okay, come

00:19:36.100 on.

00:19:36.860 Do us a favor.

00:19:37.320 We did you a

00:19:37.860 favor.

00:19:38.540 It's like the

00:19:38.940 mob.

00:19:40.020 It's like when

00:19:40.440 you ask Don

00:19:41.020 Corleone for a

00:19:42.040 favor and he

00:19:43.200 I'll grant you

00:19:43.880 this favor and

00:19:45.240 one day and

00:19:45.780 that day may

00:19:46.300 never come, I

00:19:47.860 will call upon

00:19:48.560 you to return

00:19:50.300 my favor.

00:19:51.360 And that's

00:19:51.700 what's happening.

00:19:52.280 That's what we're

00:19:52.640 seeing now.

00:19:53.760 This is an

00:19:54.320 argument for

00:19:55.640 nationalism.

00:19:57.540 This is an

00:19:57.920 argument for

00:19:58.860 maybe doing some

00:20:00.540 of our own

00:20:00.940 manufacturing.

00:20:01.740 This is an

00:20:02.080 argument for

00:20:02.800 patriotism.

00:20:03.780 And it gets

00:20:04.520 down to the

00:20:04.980 central debate

00:20:05.540 of the Trump

00:20:05.940 era that we

00:20:06.340 were talking

00:20:06.620 about yesterday

00:20:07.100 which is

00:20:07.720 nationalism

00:20:09.600 versus some

00:20:10.400 other form of

00:20:10.900 government.

00:20:11.300 Call it

00:20:11.540 imperialism because

00:20:12.680 in this

00:20:14.620 totally

00:20:15.180 globalized

00:20:16.080 world you're

00:20:17.840 not allowed to

00:20:18.340 stand for

00:20:18.720 very much.

00:20:19.860 You're not

00:20:20.120 allowed to

00:20:20.400 stand for

00:20:20.700 very much

00:20:21.160 because in

00:20:21.760 this totally

00:20:22.220 globalized

00:20:22.780 world China

00:20:24.060 gets a

00:20:24.480 say.

00:20:26.480 We have a

00:20:27.200 different country

00:20:27.700 than China.

00:20:28.200 We have a

00:20:28.440 different system

00:20:29.340 of not just

00:20:30.440 economics but a

00:20:31.220 different system

00:20:31.660 of politics,

00:20:32.500 different belief

00:20:33.040 system,

00:20:33.480 different religion,

00:20:34.520 different culture,

00:20:35.120 all that in

00:20:39.060 the globalized

00:20:41.080 one world

00:20:41.900 kumbaya version

00:20:43.120 those distinctions

00:20:44.200 go away.

00:20:44.860 Everything that

00:20:45.320 matters to us,

00:20:45.960 everything that

00:20:46.320 makes us a

00:20:46.780 people,

00:20:47.400 everything that

00:20:47.780 makes us a

00:20:48.240 nation disappears.

00:20:49.980 It plays in so

00:20:52.000 perfectly to

00:20:53.120 these questions of

00:20:53.900 the Trump era

00:20:54.560 and what's going

00:20:55.040 to happen.

00:20:55.800 Our international

00:20:56.480 corporations and

00:20:58.200 the people who

00:21:00.360 have no care for

00:21:01.900 our own country

00:21:02.620 and just want

00:21:03.260 to live all

00:21:04.220 together in one

00:21:05.180 world,

00:21:05.720 are they going

00:21:06.300 to win or are

00:21:07.940 we going to say

00:21:08.420 something's more

00:21:09.000 important than

00:21:09.500 money and we

00:21:09.980 know that

00:21:10.240 everything has a

00:21:10.840 cost and we're

00:21:11.380 willing to pay

00:21:11.820 the cost for our

00:21:12.540 own integrity.

00:21:14.680 What side is it

00:21:15.260 going to be?

00:21:15.640 I'm not terribly

00:21:16.680 optimistic but I

00:21:18.240 at least do have

00:21:18.800 hope in the

00:21:19.200 American people and

00:21:19.980 you see that a

00:21:20.420 little bit in the

00:21:20.800 pushback.

00:21:21.740 Pretty much the

00:21:22.320 only guys who

00:21:23.540 stood firm on

00:21:24.980 this were Trey

00:21:25.520 Parker and Matt

00:21:26.120 Stone from

00:21:26.500 South Park.

00:21:27.160 They did a

00:21:28.740 version of this

00:21:30.280 on their show.

00:21:31.760 They gave an

00:21:32.140 answer to this.

00:21:32.620 Even as the

00:21:33.920 Washington Wizards

00:21:34.720 are literally

00:21:35.360 confiscating free

00:21:36.900 Hong Kong protest

00:21:37.820 signs from their

00:21:39.000 games, South Park

00:21:40.180 goes out there and

00:21:41.200 has Disney, sort

00:21:42.880 of corporate

00:21:43.300 America, in the

00:21:44.280 person of Mickey

00:21:45.280 Mouse going out

00:21:46.740 and demanding that

00:21:48.040 we get on our

00:21:48.740 knees and pay

00:21:50.240 fealty to

00:21:50.780 communist China.

00:21:52.040 Which one of

00:21:52.800 you decided to

00:21:53.720 go and start

00:21:54.440 bad-mouthing the

00:21:55.760 Chinese government?

00:21:58.580 Who here thought

00:22:00.220 they had permission

00:22:01.340 to say anything

00:22:02.840 critical of

00:22:03.600 Chinese politics?

00:22:05.000 Well, it is

00:22:05.440 true, sir.

00:22:06.080 The Chinese seem

00:22:06.820 to exploit their

00:22:07.540 own people with

00:22:08.240 forced labor.

00:22:09.020 Shut the

00:22:09.160 f*** up, Thor!

00:22:10.340 That's it.

00:22:11.440 That's it.

00:22:12.320 Shut the f*** up,

00:22:13.640 Thor.

00:22:14.220 Nobody can

00:22:14.920 criticize China.

00:22:16.020 We are Disney.

00:22:17.940 And at the

00:22:18.680 political level

00:22:19.180 President Trump

00:22:19.760 is speaking at,

00:22:20.440 all of us should

00:22:21.420 speak at, too.

00:22:22.640 Moving on to a

00:22:23.320 story, another

00:22:24.440 surprising story.

00:22:25.440 Never thought I'd

00:22:25.940 have to do this.

00:22:26.500 I kind of have

00:22:27.900 to defend Matt

00:22:28.700 Lauer.

00:22:29.720 I don't want to

00:22:30.340 do that because

00:22:30.900 Matt Lauer is a

00:22:31.580 degenerate and I'm

00:22:32.280 certainly not

00:22:32.700 defending everything

00:22:33.280 he did.

00:22:34.040 But it seems like

00:22:35.160 there's an unfair

00:22:35.640 attack against him

00:22:36.400 now.

00:22:36.580 In Ronan Farrow's

00:22:37.400 new book, Ronan

00:22:38.300 Farrow, the leading

00:22:39.220 journalist of the

00:22:39.900 Me Too movement,

00:22:40.780 he's got a new

00:22:41.240 book, Catch and

00:22:41.760 Kill.

00:22:42.520 He runs the story

00:22:43.980 of a former NBC

00:22:44.760 producer, Brooke

00:22:45.480 Nevels, who says

00:22:46.700 that Matt Lauer

00:22:47.480 raped and sodomized

00:22:48.720 her.

00:22:50.320 This is, and

00:22:52.040 they're using the

00:22:52.720 word rape to

00:22:53.360 report all of this.

00:22:54.220 Matt Lauer

00:22:57.000 disputes this.

00:22:58.000 He says that he

00:22:58.780 engaged in a

00:22:59.440 months-long

00:22:59.860 consensual

00:23:00.500 extramarital affair

00:23:01.420 with Nevels.

00:23:02.060 What really

00:23:02.600 happened?

00:23:03.260 Here's what

00:23:03.800 everyone agrees

00:23:04.580 on.

00:23:05.500 Here's what

00:23:05.820 everyone agrees

00:23:06.300 on.

00:23:06.820 Ronan Farrow,

00:23:07.700 Nevels, and

00:23:08.540 Lauer.

00:23:09.160 They agree that

00:23:09.880 at the 2014

00:23:10.760 Saatchi Olympics,

00:23:12.940 this young

00:23:13.780 producer, Brooke

00:23:15.100 Nevels, went out

00:23:16.220 with Matt Lauer

00:23:16.940 and they drank a

00:23:17.960 lot of booze and

00:23:19.180 then after a night

00:23:19.940 of drinking, she

00:23:21.100 went up to his

00:23:21.900 hotel room.

00:23:22.520 He didn't follow

00:23:23.060 her back to her

00:23:24.160 hotel room.

00:23:24.760 She went up to

00:23:25.560 his hotel room.

00:23:27.600 At that point,

00:23:28.440 they consensually,

00:23:29.880 everyone agrees on

00:23:30.540 this, they

00:23:30.840 consensually engaged

00:23:31.800 in oral sex,

00:23:33.240 regular sex, and

00:23:34.960 what I will call

00:23:36.120 irregular sex.

00:23:38.660 Think, listen,

00:23:39.520 this is a family

00:23:40.120 show, so let's

00:23:40.960 read in between

00:23:41.760 the lines here.

00:23:43.460 They engaged in

00:23:44.540 those three things,

00:23:45.620 consensually in

00:23:46.280 oral sex,

00:23:46.840 consensually in

00:23:47.440 regular sex.

00:23:48.640 Then there is a

00:23:51.280 question, but what

00:23:52.800 they still both agree

00:23:53.580 on is that during

00:23:54.480 the irregular

00:23:55.300 sex, Matt

00:23:56.880 Lauer asked

00:23:57.640 Nevels if she

00:23:58.760 liked it and she

00:23:59.540 said yes, she

00:24:00.340 liked it.

00:24:01.140 Then after the

00:24:01.820 Saatchi Olympics,

00:24:02.540 they continued

00:24:02.940 their affair at

00:24:03.700 bars and at

00:24:04.340 Matt Lauer's

00:24:04.760 apartment in New

00:24:05.480 York for several

00:24:06.500 months.

00:24:07.160 Here's where the

00:24:07.640 stories diverge.

00:24:08.560 Gets to the

00:24:09.040 irregular sex.

00:24:10.020 Sorry that that

00:24:10.520 image is in your

00:24:11.060 mind.

00:24:11.860 Nevels says that

00:24:12.780 after the oral and

00:24:13.740 the regular sex,

00:24:15.560 she didn't want to

00:24:16.180 do the other thing.

00:24:17.400 And she said she

00:24:18.040 didn't want to do

00:24:18.460 the other thing, but

00:24:19.160 eventually she

00:24:19.780 relented and then

00:24:21.460 they did the other

00:24:22.120 thing and then she

00:24:22.740 said that she

00:24:23.140 liked it.

00:24:24.300 Lauer says that he

00:24:25.240 never forced anything

00:24:26.480 on her and it

00:24:27.540 certainly wasn't an

00:24:28.360 assault.

00:24:29.500 Then they

00:24:30.940 continued the

00:24:32.200 affair consensually

00:24:33.140 is what Lauer says

00:24:34.260 and what she says

00:24:35.000 is they did

00:24:35.840 continue the

00:24:36.320 affair, but she

00:24:37.020 only did it

00:24:37.600 because he was a

00:24:38.280 powerful guy at

00:24:38.860 the company and

00:24:40.140 she wanted to

00:24:41.460 please him and

00:24:42.400 appease him.

00:24:43.920 I suspect all of

00:24:45.500 this is true.

00:24:46.160 I suspect all of

00:24:47.000 that is true.

00:24:47.480 Everything that

00:24:47.940 they are both

00:24:48.400 saying about the

00:24:48.940 actual incident and

00:24:50.180 the incidents that

00:24:50.800 followed, I bet

00:24:51.940 all of that is

00:24:52.540 true.

00:24:54.180 What is not

00:24:55.880 true is that

00:24:57.300 that's rape.

00:25:00.040 It's awful.

00:25:01.400 It's awful.

00:25:02.060 Matt Lauer is a

00:25:02.700 degenerate.

00:25:03.500 What this girl is

00:25:04.660 describing is

00:25:05.400 sordid and

00:25:06.100 disgusting, but

00:25:08.400 what she's

00:25:08.860 describing, what

00:25:10.520 Ronan Farrow is

00:25:11.040 describing is not

00:25:11.980 rape.

00:25:13.320 It's bad, but it's

00:25:14.600 not rape.

00:25:16.800 To begin, actually

00:25:18.400 on both of them,

00:25:19.080 mostly on him,

00:25:20.580 what they're doing

00:25:21.300 is very bad.

00:25:22.200 I mean, he's the

00:25:22.620 man, he's the

00:25:23.100 older guy, he's the

00:25:23.740 more powerful guy,

00:25:24.500 so he shouldn't

00:25:25.020 take a young girl

00:25:25.700 up to his room.

00:25:28.420 Also, young women

00:25:30.700 should not go up

00:25:31.840 to the hotel room

00:25:32.660 of married men

00:25:33.580 after a night of

00:25:34.140 drinking.

00:25:36.040 Young women are

00:25:36.900 not, you know,

00:25:39.180 totally senseless

00:25:40.400 creatures, okay?

00:25:41.220 They have will,

00:25:42.100 they have intellect,

00:25:42.960 they have their own

00:25:43.460 free will and their

00:25:43.960 own free choices.

00:25:45.320 Young women

00:25:45.680 shouldn't do that.

00:25:47.160 He's in the

00:25:47.620 position of power

00:25:48.300 here, so it's

00:25:48.760 mostly on him.

00:25:50.180 He shouldn't have

00:25:50.760 asked her to do

00:25:51.440 that particular sex

00:25:52.300 act, he shouldn't

00:25:52.780 have asked her to

00:25:53.160 have sex at all

00:25:53.720 because he was

00:25:54.040 married and he

00:25:54.600 shouldn't be such

00:25:55.100 a degenerate.

00:25:56.140 And he should

00:25:56.620 have lost his

00:25:57.100 job anywhere else

00:25:58.380 in America right

00:25:59.020 now.

00:25:59.200 If you do what

00:25:59.680 he did, totally

00:26:01.100 consensually, you

00:26:01.860 would lose your

00:26:02.280 job and he should

00:26:02.880 have lost his

00:26:03.320 job too.

00:26:03.940 But that isn't

00:26:04.680 rape.

00:26:05.520 And the reason

00:26:06.180 this matters is

00:26:07.300 because rape is a

00:26:08.640 very serious crime.

00:26:10.360 And rape does

00:26:11.220 happen a lot and

00:26:12.100 it should be treated

00:26:12.620 very seriously.

00:26:13.820 And when we

00:26:14.260 treat otherwise

00:26:16.280 consensual,

00:26:17.200 months-long,

00:26:17.780 extramarital affairs

00:26:18.920 as being the

00:26:20.040 same thing as

00:26:20.800 sexual assault and

00:26:22.080 rape, you

00:26:24.000 downplay the

00:26:26.100 seriousness of

00:26:26.680 rape.

00:26:27.340 You undermine

00:26:28.500 actual victims of

00:26:29.840 rape.

00:26:30.540 And that's a very

00:26:31.080 bad thing.

00:26:31.980 And the Me Too,

00:26:33.340 this has always

00:26:33.760 been the tension

00:26:34.220 of the Me Too

00:26:34.640 movement, is the

00:26:35.820 Me Too movement is

00:26:36.540 exposing actual bad

00:26:37.840 things being done by

00:26:38.740 actual bad people in

00:26:40.220 serious positions in

00:26:41.120 Hollywood.

00:26:41.800 But at the same

00:26:43.900 time, there is a

00:26:44.820 risk of redefining

00:26:46.600 rape and sexual

00:26:47.440 assault so broadly

00:26:48.720 that you actually

00:26:49.980 diminish the

00:26:51.520 seriousness with

00:26:52.180 which we as a

00:26:52.920 culture treat

00:26:53.720 rape.

00:26:54.060 That would be a

00:26:54.440 very bad thing to

00:26:55.600 do.

00:26:55.800 I have no desire

00:26:56.540 ever to defend

00:26:57.560 Matt Lauer again.

00:26:58.740 I think he's a

00:26:59.360 complete dirtbag.

00:27:00.860 So please,

00:27:02.240 Please Me Too

00:27:02.860 movement don't make

00:27:03.840 me have to even

00:27:05.180 remotely in any

00:27:06.180 way defend what he

00:27:07.700 is saying.

00:27:08.160 Because he's pushed

00:27:08.660 back very hard

00:27:09.280 against this and he

00:27:10.500 actually has

00:27:10.980 acknowledged some of

00:27:11.780 his own moral

00:27:13.060 wrongdoing here.

00:27:14.080 Not sufficiently,

00:27:15.680 but a little bit.

00:27:17.020 But what he's

00:27:17.420 saying is I should

00:27:17.980 have been more

00:27:18.760 open from the

00:27:19.240 very beginning.

00:27:20.280 I was a rich,

00:27:21.820 powerful, famous

00:27:22.560 guy and I took

00:27:23.480 advantage of my

00:27:24.080 position and I

00:27:25.340 had extramarital

00:27:26.400 affairs with young

00:27:27.020 women, but I

00:27:27.560 didn't rape anybody.

00:27:28.600 And maybe he did

00:27:29.980 in other circumstances.

00:27:30.900 I don't know if he

00:27:31.360 did or not, but in

00:27:32.120 what everyone is

00:27:33.040 describing here, that

00:27:33.760 is not it.

00:27:36.640 There is so much

00:27:37.880 more to get to,

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00:28:45.920 All right, let's get

00:28:46.860 into the mailbag.

00:28:47.560 I always run so late

00:28:48.360 in the mailbag, so

00:28:49.020 let's try to go right

00:28:49.940 in.

00:28:50.140 From Arun, dear Dr.

00:28:52.220 Kofefe, I have never

00:28:54.360 boycotted a business or

00:28:55.700 individual on the

00:28:56.580 basis of politics.

00:28:57.620 However, in the past

00:28:58.440 few days, various

00:28:59.760 events such as Robert

00:29:01.180 De Niro cursing on

00:29:02.120 CNN due to his

00:29:03.060 hatred of the

00:29:03.520 president, and the

00:29:04.520 vegan restaurants in

00:29:05.340 my city tweeting

00:29:06.000 support for

00:29:06.540 pseudoscientific climate

00:29:07.560 alarmism, what is the

00:29:09.100 point at which we

00:29:10.520 should refuse to

00:29:11.740 purchase goods or

00:29:13.000 entertainment from

00:29:14.180 extreme liberals?

00:29:15.560 Thanks, love the show.

00:29:17.880 These are actually

00:29:18.620 different questions.

00:29:19.680 One is about boycotts,

00:29:20.960 one is about your

00:29:21.780 choices as a consumer.

00:29:23.040 They're related, they

00:29:23.840 seem very similar, but

00:29:24.720 they're actually

00:29:25.180 different.

00:29:26.340 A boycott is when you

00:29:27.560 organize enough people

00:29:28.800 to cause enough pain to

00:29:30.340 a business to make

00:29:31.480 them change their

00:29:32.160 behavior.

00:29:33.060 Think of the bus

00:29:34.300 boycotts during the

00:29:35.080 civil rights movement.

00:29:37.760 Boycotts almost never

00:29:39.120 work because no one

00:29:40.660 actually cares.

00:29:42.440 What we see instead are

00:29:43.720 fake boycotts, and this

00:29:45.060 is ginned up almost

00:29:45.880 exclusively on the left

00:29:46.960 by groups like Media

00:29:47.860 Matters and Sleeping

00:29:48.740 Giants and those kind of

00:29:49.760 people to get 30 or 40

00:29:51.940 people to call up a

00:29:53.300 conservative media

00:29:54.440 personality sponsors and

00:29:56.180 convince them that

00:29:56.780 there's a boycott and

00:29:57.600 have them drop them right

00:29:58.520 away out of fear of some

00:30:00.200 future problem.

00:30:01.080 But it's only over 30 or

00:30:02.160 40 people.

00:30:02.700 It doesn't in any way

00:30:03.440 affect the bottom line.

00:30:04.640 So boycotts don't work.

00:30:05.780 I don't think conservatives

00:30:06.560 really should engage in

00:30:07.480 boycotts unless we're

00:30:09.920 talking about some

00:30:10.480 seriously momentous

00:30:11.720 political issue.

00:30:14.180 Personal consumer choice

00:30:15.540 is a different thing.

00:30:18.400 I won't purchase anything

00:30:20.700 from Nike.

00:30:21.660 Not that I ever did

00:30:22.460 purchase very much from

00:30:23.280 Nike.

00:30:23.620 I'm not exactly the

00:30:24.420 sneaker wearing type.

00:30:25.220 But I certainly won't

00:30:27.720 purchase anything from

00:30:28.460 Nike anymore.

00:30:29.160 Why?

00:30:29.700 Because Nike didn't just

00:30:31.340 weigh in on some

00:30:32.120 political issue that I

00:30:32.960 disagreed with.

00:30:33.840 They explicitly endorsed

00:30:35.360 a protest of the

00:30:36.760 American flag.

00:30:38.600 Not just a protest of

00:30:41.600 taxes or something or

00:30:42.800 tax cuts or not a

00:30:44.600 protest of this issue or

00:30:45.440 that issue.

00:30:45.900 The flag itself, the

00:30:47.100 country itself, which I

00:30:48.680 pledge allegiance to.

00:30:49.820 I pledge allegiance to the

00:30:51.300 country in a way that I

00:30:52.300 have allegiance to my

00:30:53.400 parents.

00:30:54.740 It's totally right and

00:30:56.040 just to love your

00:30:57.160 country and to have a

00:30:58.460 loyalty to your country.

00:30:59.580 And they undercut that.

00:31:00.620 So I won't shop at Nike.

00:31:02.360 That's a pretty high

00:31:03.340 level.

00:31:03.860 Now, other companies do

00:31:05.260 things that I don't like

00:31:06.060 and I still use them

00:31:06.740 sometimes.

00:31:08.220 That's just the way it is.

00:31:09.300 What are you going to do?

00:31:09.820 For instance, some coffee

00:31:10.980 companies will match

00:31:12.660 donations that employees

00:31:13.760 make to Planned

00:31:14.440 Parenthood.

00:31:15.440 I hate that.

00:31:16.620 I hate Planned

00:31:17.160 Parenthood.

00:31:17.820 I want it to be abolished

00:31:19.420 tomorrow.

00:31:20.400 And if I were ever in a

00:31:21.300 position of power, I would

00:31:22.160 certainly do everything I

00:31:22.980 could to do that.

00:31:24.760 But if you start getting

00:31:25.940 down into the weeds on

00:31:26.740 every little thing, huge

00:31:29.220 numbers of companies match

00:31:30.280 employees' donations to

00:31:31.260 Planned Parenthood.

00:31:32.540 You basically wouldn't be

00:31:33.680 able to participate in the

00:31:34.660 market if you were to make

00:31:35.980 your decisions that way.

00:31:37.180 And life is too short and

00:31:38.320 there are too many details

00:31:39.320 involved.

00:31:39.800 So the answer that I will

00:31:41.160 give you on the consumer

00:31:43.300 choice aspect of this is the

00:31:45.380 answer that Antonin Scalia

00:31:46.880 actually gave me when we

00:31:48.980 were asking him about how,

00:31:50.740 about sort of particular

00:31:51.600 issues of constitutional law

00:31:52.960 like stare decisis and gun

00:31:54.640 control and what that really

00:31:55.860 means.

00:31:56.700 How should you make those

00:31:57.660 decisions?

00:31:58.840 It's an unsatisfying answer,

00:32:00.120 but it's the real one.

00:32:01.980 Very carefully.

00:32:03.880 From Annie, do you think this

00:32:05.340 next election, no matter the

00:32:06.480 result, will create even more

00:32:07.720 divide between the Democrats

00:32:08.860 and Republicans?

00:32:09.920 Yes.

00:32:11.040 Yes, it will create more

00:32:12.360 divide and it will acknowledge

00:32:13.740 that there is more of a divide

00:32:14.960 being created.

00:32:16.280 A divide among Democrats and

00:32:17.840 Republicans, by the way, is not

00:32:18.980 necessarily a bad thing.

00:32:20.540 I actually think it's nice that

00:32:21.740 the parties are different.

00:32:23.100 I want a choice, not an echo,

00:32:25.020 like Phyllis Schlafly and Barry

00:32:26.160 Goldwater in the early post-war

00:32:27.900 conservative movement used to

00:32:28.900 talk about.

00:32:29.600 I want there to be a difference.

00:32:31.020 Too often you elect a

00:32:32.020 Republican and he behaves just

00:32:33.080 like a Democrat.

00:32:33.980 So I want that divide of

00:32:36.720 perspective, ideological divide,

00:32:38.640 philosophical divide.

00:32:39.420 I want that to be stark and

00:32:41.600 clear because what that gives us

00:32:43.180 is honesty.

00:32:44.280 Now, I don't want there to be a

00:32:47.640 divide among countrymen who view

00:32:50.860 each other as alien and awful and

00:32:54.860 terrible and deplorable and

00:32:56.200 irredeemable.

00:32:57.100 You see that a little bit from the

00:32:58.880 way the right looks at the left,

00:33:00.040 a little bit.

00:33:00.940 You mostly see it from the way the

00:33:02.220 left looks at the right.

00:33:04.740 There's no moral equivalence here.

00:33:06.260 I mean, Hillary Clinton, the 2016

00:33:07.880 Democratic presidential nominee,

00:33:09.800 said that half of her countrymen are

00:33:11.260 deplorable and irredeemable.

00:33:13.140 That is pretty clear.

00:33:14.340 You don't hear that kind of stuff

00:33:15.380 from President Trump.

00:33:16.640 You don't hear that kind of stuff

00:33:17.500 from the right generally.

00:33:19.160 So I don't want that divide to

00:33:20.860 grow.

00:33:21.820 But that divide is not going to be

00:33:23.100 caused by a presidential election.

00:33:25.200 It's not going to be cured by a

00:33:26.140 presidential election because that

00:33:27.200 divide is not political in the

00:33:29.520 strict sense.

00:33:30.600 It's cultural and it's religious.

00:33:33.440 If you, as Cardinal Manning said,

00:33:36.820 all political debates are

00:33:38.740 fundamentally theological debates.

00:33:40.760 If you approach politics from the

00:33:42.500 position that man is broken,

00:33:44.280 we are fallen,

00:33:45.800 we are all deserving of death,

00:33:49.060 we all do terrible, terrible things,

00:33:50.820 and we can accept the grace of God

00:33:52.620 and the mercy of God,

00:33:54.120 and we forgive other people's

00:33:56.640 trespasses as

00:33:57.820 our trespasses are forgiven us,

00:34:00.480 and we pray for mercy,

00:34:02.940 and mercy is a category of godliness,

00:34:05.020 then you can look on your countrymen

00:34:07.040 with whom you disagree and whose goals

00:34:08.680 you oppose with a degree of charity

00:34:10.920 and with a degree of

00:34:12.420 patriotism, with a degree of

00:34:16.020 brotherliness as your fellow citizens.

00:34:18.640 If you approach politics as

00:34:20.480 nothing in the world makes any sense

00:34:22.240 and there's no such thing as

00:34:23.200 redemption and we all just take a

00:34:24.820 dirt nap and turn to worm food when

00:34:26.140 we die and it's just a brutal fight

00:34:28.260 until the end, you can't.

00:34:29.780 You can't look at it that way.

00:34:31.180 You'll hate your fellow countrymen.

00:34:32.760 I mean, you'll do anything.

00:34:33.560 They get twisted so out of proportion

00:34:35.520 when leftists look at things like this.

00:34:40.640 That problem will not be solved

00:34:42.080 by an election.

00:34:42.760 That problem will be solved culturally

00:34:44.160 and ultimately religiously,

00:34:46.140 and President Trump is capable

00:34:47.420 of doing a lot of things.

00:34:49.060 I think that's a little beyond

00:34:50.200 his purview.

00:34:51.140 From Grant,

00:34:52.160 my girlfriend of four years

00:34:53.200 and I broke up last night.

00:34:55.060 She broke up with you.

00:34:56.780 She broke up with me.

00:34:58.800 We've had some trouble

00:35:00.060 for the last three months.

00:35:01.660 She might not want kids.

00:35:02.680 She isn't aligned

00:35:03.780 with my Christian faith.

00:35:05.180 She's an incredibly sweet girl

00:35:06.280 and I planned my life with her,

00:35:07.840 but now it all seems

00:35:08.840 all for nothing.

00:35:10.120 Do I fight for her

00:35:11.140 or do you believe a couple

00:35:12.420 should share religious views

00:35:13.680 to truly work?

00:35:16.760 This is a question

00:35:18.020 that depends on a lot of variables

00:35:21.480 that you haven't given me,

00:35:23.200 most especially your age.

00:35:26.620 Sweet little Lisa and I dated

00:35:27.700 for the first go around

00:35:28.640 when we were like children.

00:35:30.000 We met when we were 10.

00:35:31.240 We dated in high school.

00:35:32.680 We had very different views,

00:35:34.640 not really from each other even.

00:35:36.180 They're different views

00:35:36.680 than what we hold now

00:35:37.540 on all manner of questions

00:35:39.080 from politics,

00:35:39.940 culture, religion.

00:35:41.200 And so that changes over time

00:35:42.300 and you grow with someone

00:35:43.060 or you grow apart from someone.

00:35:45.560 Now, by the time we got married,

00:35:47.820 those things started to converge,

00:35:49.620 obviously.

00:35:50.260 I mean, you're not going

00:35:50.840 to have completely different views

00:35:52.200 from your spouse

00:35:52.780 about how the world works.

00:35:53.960 When you say she's not aligned

00:35:57.520 with your Christian views,

00:35:58.960 what does that mean?

00:36:00.140 Could she come around?

00:36:01.240 Is she sort of curious

00:36:03.320 or is she totally antagonistic

00:36:05.640 to those views?

00:36:06.380 That's a big distinction.

00:36:07.920 She says she might not want kids.

00:36:09.680 Does she really not want kids

00:36:11.500 or is that just the sort of thing

00:36:13.680 that an 18-year-old millennial

00:36:15.700 or Gen Z girl says?

00:36:17.420 It's a big difference too.

00:36:18.340 So, faith is very important

00:36:23.160 and your faith will dictate

00:36:25.140 a lot of other things

00:36:26.100 that happen in your family.

00:36:28.360 Certainly, you shouldn't marry a girl

00:36:29.700 who says explicitly,

00:36:31.100 I don't want kids

00:36:31.880 if you want kids.

00:36:32.640 That is a recipe for disaster.

00:36:34.260 And certainly,

00:36:34.740 you shouldn't marry a girl

00:36:35.740 who says,

00:36:36.480 I'm never going to come around

00:36:37.900 to Christianity

00:36:38.460 and I won't raise the kids Christian

00:36:39.740 and we won't.

00:36:40.260 Like, no way.

00:36:41.160 That's not going to work.

00:36:42.380 If that is the case,

00:36:43.580 if this is real,

00:36:44.520 if those are real divides,

00:36:46.600 plenty of fish in the sea, my man.

00:36:48.340 Be a man.

00:36:50.080 Take the dumping for what it is

00:36:52.420 or take the breakup for what it is

00:36:53.780 and move on.

00:36:55.020 It's not always the manly thing

00:36:56.280 to fight for the girl.

00:36:57.080 If it's really not going to work,

00:36:58.480 move on.

00:36:58.920 That's the manlier thing to do.

00:37:00.520 If these are all soft no's

00:37:03.780 and not quite

00:37:05.080 and you have this more

00:37:06.600 of a leadership role here,

00:37:08.440 then yeah,

00:37:08.740 it might be worth fighting for.

00:37:09.740 But it's really about the relationship.

00:37:11.580 It's not about hard and fast rules.

00:37:12.760 It's not about a checklist.

00:37:13.700 It's not some kind of clinical relationship.

00:37:16.440 It's about love

00:37:18.420 and your future together

00:37:19.260 and your ability to lead a family.

00:37:21.700 From Dan,

00:37:22.860 what is your impression

00:37:23.700 on China's reaction

00:37:24.720 of blocking all South Park materials

00:37:26.600 from Chinese social media?

00:37:28.760 South Park could receive

00:37:30.160 no higher honor

00:37:31.360 than being blocked

00:37:32.580 from Chinese social media.

00:37:34.000 That is truly a badge of honor.

00:37:35.700 Matt Stone and Trey Parker

00:37:36.620 should be very,

00:37:37.560 very proud of themselves.

00:37:38.940 You see an analog to this

00:37:42.260 in American politics.

00:37:44.840 There are some conservatives

00:37:47.100 who when they get criticized

00:37:50.520 by left-wing media,

00:37:51.840 the New York Times,

00:37:52.660 the Washington Post,

00:37:53.920 NBC, CNN,

00:37:56.580 they get really sad.

00:37:58.080 They're really nervous.

00:37:58.980 They want to fix it.

00:37:59.980 They want to get better.

00:38:01.140 No, please take me back.

00:38:03.180 Those guys are the worst.

00:38:04.520 There is no greater badge of honor

00:38:06.440 than for CNN

00:38:07.280 and the Washington Post

00:38:08.220 and Media Matters

00:38:09.100 and all those

00:38:10.220 truly, truly troubled people

00:38:12.740 with very wrong views

00:38:13.920 of the world

00:38:14.460 to come after you.

00:38:15.960 That's a good thing.

00:38:16.800 It shows you're doing

00:38:17.700 something right.

00:38:19.200 From Elliot,

00:38:20.160 what is your opinion

00:38:20.920 on what California

00:38:22.280 should do

00:38:22.720 about the homeless crisis?

00:38:24.160 If you were the governor

00:38:24.980 of California,

00:38:25.940 what would be the first thing

00:38:27.220 you would do

00:38:28.040 to combat homelessness?

00:38:30.660 The first thing I would do

00:38:32.060 is stop permitting it.

00:38:33.660 I would not permit it.

00:38:36.980 Now, this question

00:38:37.840 comes down to mayors of cities,

00:38:39.260 so mayor of LA

00:38:39.980 or mayor of San Francisco,

00:38:40.840 for instance.

00:38:41.520 I would not allow it to happen.

00:38:44.200 I would send in the police

00:38:45.560 and I would have the police

00:38:47.160 pick up all of these people

00:38:48.400 and I would have them

00:38:49.460 drag the people

00:38:50.500 to homeless shelters.

00:38:52.360 And then,

00:38:53.380 if they don't go

00:38:54.260 to the homeless shelter

00:38:55.000 because they want to stay out

00:38:55.880 on the street

00:38:56.280 and they want to do illegal drugs

00:38:57.780 and they want to live

00:38:59.000 a vagrant life,

00:39:00.180 then I would have those police

00:39:01.300 come and arrest the people

00:39:02.640 and throw them in prison.

00:39:04.000 If the problem is

00:39:04.880 that there aren't enough

00:39:05.560 homeless shelters,

00:39:06.340 I would build more homeless shelters

00:39:07.640 at public expense.

00:39:08.820 If the problem is

00:39:09.880 that the people are crazy,

00:39:12.400 they have mental problems,

00:39:13.860 which is true of huge numbers

00:39:15.820 of people who are homeless

00:39:17.200 on the streets,

00:39:17.920 then I would build

00:39:19.360 more mental asylums.

00:39:21.340 And what I would do

00:39:22.400 is change the law

00:39:23.240 to make it easier

00:39:24.060 to involuntarily commit people

00:39:25.580 because those insane asylums

00:39:29.060 were ripped down 50 years ago

00:39:30.920 in the misguided

00:39:32.900 but understandable hope

00:39:34.560 that people didn't need

00:39:35.680 to be locked up

00:39:36.280 in these institutions anymore

00:39:37.480 and psychiatric drugs

00:39:39.000 would be able to cure people

00:39:40.060 and they'd be fine.

00:39:40.920 Turns out that when

00:39:41.780 the people leave

00:39:42.400 the institutions

00:39:43.020 and they don't have

00:39:43.760 a social network

00:39:45.680 and they don't have families

00:39:46.960 and they don't have

00:39:47.480 strong communities,

00:39:48.320 they end up on the street

00:39:49.440 and they stop taking their drugs

00:39:50.640 and that is not

00:39:51.280 compassionate to anybody.

00:39:52.820 Sleeping on the street

00:39:53.640 is a dysfunctional act

00:39:55.140 that harms the individual

00:39:56.320 and it harms society.

00:39:58.080 And so I would immediately

00:39:59.780 do those three things.

00:40:01.900 I would make it illegal

00:40:03.660 and empower the cops

00:40:04.960 to deal with it.

00:40:05.940 I would make sure

00:40:07.880 that there are sufficient

00:40:08.760 homeless shelters

00:40:09.780 and resources available

00:40:11.060 that the people

00:40:12.020 who actually want them

00:40:12.900 can use them

00:40:13.480 and I would make it easier

00:40:15.420 to commit mentally insane people

00:40:17.500 to asylums.

00:40:19.740 Those three things,

00:40:21.080 they're not all politically correct

00:40:22.540 but they would do a lot

00:40:23.340 to fix the problem

00:40:24.080 and in the long run

00:40:25.200 they are far, far more compassionate

00:40:27.460 than letting poor, vulnerable people

00:40:29.780 languish on the street.

00:40:31.880 From Dom,

00:40:33.420 in this internet age

00:40:34.680 where we continue

00:40:35.340 to further isolate ourselves

00:40:36.700 from each other,

00:40:37.820 how can we come together

00:40:38.900 like we used to

00:40:39.780 without compromising truth?

00:40:42.520 By that I mean

00:40:43.900 how people have devolved

00:40:45.380 to the point

00:40:45.840 where they only see

00:40:46.620 their truth

00:40:47.380 instead of the truth.

00:40:48.800 How can we bridge that divide?

00:40:50.000 That's not a social media problem.

00:40:52.400 Social media exacerbates

00:40:53.380 the problem

00:40:53.680 but it's not caused

00:40:54.300 by social media.

00:40:55.280 That is a problem

00:40:56.100 of politics,

00:40:57.760 a problem of culture

00:40:58.440 and a problem

00:40:58.960 truly of religion.

00:41:00.420 I mean this comes down

00:41:01.140 to the fundamental question

00:41:03.120 is there a such thing

00:41:04.180 as reality

00:41:04.680 or is reality

00:41:06.360 only in the mind?

00:41:08.060 And for the last

00:41:09.260 half century at least

00:41:10.480 and really this is a problem

00:41:12.200 that's been growing

00:41:12.680 for 500 years,

00:41:14.460 the West has lost faith

00:41:15.900 in objective reality

00:41:17.140 and specifically

00:41:17.880 in objective

00:41:19.060 metaphysical reality,

00:41:20.300 the moral order.

00:41:22.180 And so everything

00:41:23.440 just becomes

00:41:24.220 a matter of preference.

00:41:27.920 Social media amplifies

00:41:29.120 this problem

00:41:29.660 because social media

00:41:30.360 makes everybody a star.

00:41:31.580 Everybody is their own

00:41:32.200 little celebrity

00:41:32.800 and celebrities

00:41:33.280 are the worst people

00:41:33.960 on earth

00:41:34.320 so it exacerbates

00:41:35.540 all of their

00:41:36.360 worst qualities,

00:41:37.580 their hubris,

00:41:38.400 their pride,

00:41:39.180 their arrogance.

00:41:40.040 It actually exacerbates

00:41:41.140 ignorance

00:41:41.600 because it locks you

00:41:42.540 into these tiny little bubbles

00:41:43.680 and tiny little clusters

00:41:46.580 where only your opinions

00:41:47.720 are affirmed

00:41:48.380 and you never hear

00:41:48.980 different points of view.

00:41:51.140 So the hope,

00:41:54.060 sure it'd be good

00:41:54.700 if we could reform

00:41:55.420 social media

00:41:56.020 in such a way

00:41:56.540 that we stop making

00:41:57.220 such little celebrity monsters

00:41:58.440 but the greater hope

00:42:00.960 is addressing

00:42:01.840 the philosophical

00:42:02.800 and religious issue

00:42:03.900 which is getting people

00:42:06.000 to stop believing

00:42:07.340 the silly stupid lie

00:42:08.960 of moral relativism,

00:42:10.840 of radical subjectivism.

00:42:13.020 Pope Benedict XVI

00:42:14.320 wrote eloquently about this,

00:42:16.060 C.S. Lewis wrote eloquently

00:42:17.160 about this.

00:42:18.340 This is the great challenge

00:42:20.200 of our age

00:42:21.040 is this poison

00:42:22.540 of subjectivism.

00:42:24.780 We need to show people

00:42:26.040 that truth,

00:42:26.920 there is such a thing

00:42:27.900 as truth

00:42:28.340 and one simple way

00:42:29.420 to do it

00:42:29.780 is to show people

00:42:30.720 that there's a difference

00:42:33.380 between a fact

00:42:34.280 and an opinion

00:42:34.800 and preference.

00:42:36.220 So right now

00:42:37.260 what people think

00:42:37.860 is that facts

00:42:38.420 and opinions

00:42:38.820 are different

00:42:39.280 because facts

00:42:40.080 are either true or false

00:42:40.940 and opinions

00:42:41.360 are neither true

00:42:42.540 nor false.

00:42:43.220 They're just,

00:42:43.700 you know,

00:42:43.920 up to preference

00:42:44.460 and taste.

00:42:45.180 That isn't true.

00:42:46.720 Facts can be true

00:42:47.460 or false.

00:42:48.200 Opinions can be true

00:42:48.960 or false as well.

00:42:50.180 Two plus two equals four.

00:42:51.500 That's a fact.

00:42:52.560 I think two plus two

00:42:53.740 equals four.

00:42:54.400 That's an opinion.

00:42:55.160 It happens to be

00:42:55.700 a correct opinion.

00:42:56.780 If I said,

00:42:57.440 I think two plus two

00:42:58.220 equals five,

00:42:59.000 that would also be

00:42:59.820 an opinion

00:43:00.200 but that would be

00:43:00.840 an incorrect opinion

00:43:01.820 and then if I say

00:43:02.820 that I like chocolate ice cream

00:43:04.220 more than vanilla ice cream,

00:43:05.560 that's a preference.

00:43:06.640 Opinions and preferences

00:43:07.480 are different things.

00:43:08.920 If you can show people

00:43:09.900 that there are true opinions,

00:43:12.580 it will give them confidence

00:43:13.660 not just in their own opinions,

00:43:15.220 it'll give them confidence

00:43:16.020 that there is an objective

00:43:16.920 reality itself

00:43:17.740 and then they can tweet

00:43:19.020 about that

00:43:19.540 and fix social media for us.

00:43:21.660 Final question from Jake.

00:43:23.760 Does your sweet little Alisa

00:43:25.360 know about the humorous

00:43:27.160 yet hopefully not accurate

00:43:29.460 impression you do of her

00:43:30.840 on your show?

00:43:32.180 Shut up,

00:43:32.680 Meg!

00:43:32.960 Shut your mouth,

00:43:34.040 Meg!

00:43:35.560 Where was that?

00:43:36.420 Was that,

00:43:36.800 did sweet little Alisa

00:43:37.420 even hear that question?

00:43:38.500 I don't know.

00:43:39.640 No,

00:43:40.080 of course,

00:43:40.260 the answer is of course no

00:43:41.160 because why would she ever

00:43:41.820 listen to this show?

00:43:42.520 That would be totally crazy.

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Ep. 430 - He Who Pays The Piper Calls The Tune

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