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00:00:37.740 Another day, another impeachment witness affirms that President Trump committed no quid pro quo with Ukraine.

00:00:45.220 Of course, you wouldn't know that from the front pages of the New York Times and the Washington Post.

00:00:49.620 We will parse the spin and lies.

00:00:52.080 Then, speaking of spin and lies, the Democrats returned to the stage for this month's presidential primary debate.

00:00:59.420 And I watched every agonizing moment of it.

00:01:02.060 A high school girl cries after her school district forces her to undress in front of boys.

00:01:07.560 Progress.

00:01:08.480 And finally, the mailbag.

00:01:09.960 All that and more.

00:01:10.560 I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:12.620 Okay, here's what you've read in the newspapers today.

00:01:22.840 Well, you haven't because you don't read the New York Times and the Washington Post because you are an educated person.

00:01:28.480 But this is what most people are reading in the newspapers today.

00:01:31.700 New York Times.

00:01:33.520 Sondland says he followed Trump's orders.

00:01:37.240 The Washington Post, Sondland links Trump administration to pressure campaign on Ukraine.

00:01:45.380 Diplomat says there was a quid pro quo, a White House meeting if Ukraine opened probes into Joe Biden.

00:01:53.980 Sondland's bombshell testimony leaves Trump's GOP allies scrambling.

00:02:00.820 Scrambling, they are, like scurrying like mice on Capitol Hill.

00:02:04.860 Of course, none of that is true.

00:02:08.740 None of that is true.

00:02:10.440 If you read those headlines, what you would conclude from that is that Trump engaged in a quid pro quo, whatever that is.

00:02:18.500 That's been the latest accusation that they've hurled at Trump.

00:02:22.060 Really, all we've had for this whole impeachment probe is that there's been sort of nebulous wrongdoing.

00:02:26.580 No one can point to a crime.

00:02:28.380 Nobody can point to a high crime or misdemeanor.

00:02:31.000 But they just, he did something wrong, he's got to leave office.

00:02:33.360 If you read those headlines, it would be impossible not to conclude that Trump committed an impeachable offense unless you had greater context or unless you had actually watched the testimony.

00:02:45.200 So let's, let's look at it.

00:02:47.460 Unvarnished, no interpretive lens of the mainstream media.

00:02:51.120 What did Gordon Sondland, the big ambassador to the European Union, the big witness yesterday for the Democrats, what did Sondland actually say about Trump?

00:03:01.420 He said repeatedly and explicitly that Trump told him not to engage in a quid pro quo with Ukraine.

00:03:11.380 Here he is.

00:03:11.780 My testimony is, I never heard from President Trump that aid was conditioned on an announcement of elections.

00:03:19.800 So you never heard those specific words?

00:03:22.960 Correct.

00:03:23.440 Right, but?

00:03:24.040 Never heard those words.

00:03:24.900 Again, I don't recall President Trump ever talking to me about any security assistance, ever.

00:03:32.720 Did the president ever tell you personally about any preconditions for anything?

00:03:37.340 No.

00:03:38.060 Okay, so the president never told you about any preconditions for the aid to be released?

00:03:43.600 No.

00:03:44.380 The president never told you about any preconditions for a White House meeting?

00:03:48.860 Personally, no.

00:03:49.680 But I believe I just asked him an open-ended question, Mr. Chairman, what do you want from Ukraine?

00:03:54.760 I keep hearing all these different ideas and theories and this and that.

00:03:59.020 What do you want?

00:04:00.480 And it was a very short, abrupt conversation.

00:04:04.320 He was not in a good mood.

00:04:06.560 And he just said, I want nothing.

00:04:08.200 I want nothing.

00:04:08.800 I want no quid pro quo.

00:04:10.760 Tell Zelensky to do the right thing.

00:04:12.900 Something to that effect.

00:04:14.280 That last clip, by the way, was to Adam Schiff, who's running this whole charade.

00:04:18.700 And Adam Schiff is just there, devastated.

00:04:22.220 He's obviously crestfallen.

00:04:23.680 The only contradiction in there worth noting is that at the very beginning of the clip,

00:04:29.320 Sondland said, I never heard those words, quid pro quo from the president.

00:04:32.640 And then later on, he says, I actually did hear those words when later he told me explicitly,

00:04:38.140 do not engage in a quid pro quo.

00:04:40.320 I do not want a quid pro quo.

00:04:42.320 So that's it, right?

00:04:43.280 That's it.

00:04:44.440 That's the whole thing.

00:04:45.620 The Democrats, at least in the latest iteration, obviously they've been trying to impeach him

00:04:50.040 for three years, but the latest version is Trump committed a quid pro quo.

00:04:54.940 No evidence of that.

00:04:56.660 A quid pro quo is an impeachable offense.

00:04:59.580 No evidence of that.

00:05:01.200 Therefore, we need to remove President Trump from office.

00:05:03.300 Okay.

00:05:03.660 If that's the Democrats' argument, then you just heard from the guy, from the ambassador

00:05:09.100 to the European Union, Gordon Sondland, Trump told me explicitly, do not engage in a quid

00:05:15.220 pro quo.

00:05:15.800 And that was only after I testified that we didn't even talk about security concerns.

00:05:22.380 We didn't even talk about the aid.

00:05:23.640 But then when the aid was brought up, he said, do not engage in a quid pro quo.

00:05:27.880 So that's it.

00:05:28.440 It's over, right?

00:05:29.280 Okay.

00:05:29.620 That's, that would be the conclusion of any reasonable person.

00:05:34.380 So what's the conclusion of Democrat Adam Schiff?

00:05:37.920 Here he is.

00:05:38.840 Because I think today's testimony, uh, is among the most significant evidence to date.

00:05:44.500 Uh, and what we have just heard from Ambassador Sondland is that the knowledge of this scheme,

00:05:49.680 this conditioning, uh, of the White House meeting of the security assistance to get the

00:05:56.220 deliverable, the president wanted these two political investigations that he believed would

00:06:01.120 help his reelection campaign was a basic quid pro quo.

00:06:06.520 That's your conclusion.

00:06:08.540 That's your conclusion.

00:06:09.740 After, after he says, Trump never told me to engage in a quid pro quo.

00:06:14.440 I never heard those words.

00:06:15.480 We never discussed security assistance.

00:06:17.460 There never were preconditions for the White House meeting.

00:06:20.720 And oh, by the way, he told me explicitly no quid pro quo.

00:06:24.540 Your conclusion is, yeah, there was basically a quid pro quo.

00:06:27.540 Basically, when you really think about it, when you really look deep, deep down, it looks

00:06:33.680 like there was a quid pro quo.

00:06:37.540 He's lying right to your face.

00:06:39.520 Adam Schiff.

00:06:40.880 Adam Schiff is going on television.

00:06:42.920 And what he is relying on is that no one is watching the testimony itself.

00:06:47.440 What he's relying on is that no one's going to play those clips so that you hear it unvarnished.

00:06:52.220 What he's hoping is that people are just going to watch clips of politicians talking about

00:06:57.540 the testimony on CNN.

00:07:00.700 And for most people, that's true. 0.99

00:07:02.840 Adam Schiff is not a stupid man. 0.97

00:07:04.920 Adam Schiff realizes that the majority of Americans are not paying attention to this. 0.97

00:07:09.940 A huge number of Americans, I think it's like 35%, haven't heard anything about the impeachment.

00:07:15.980 They don't read about it.

00:07:17.040 They don't hear about it on television.

00:07:18.160 So he is going to try to convey his narrative, which contradicts reality.

00:07:23.320 Now, he did get one good clip in yesterday.

00:07:25.620 We will examine that and see if that gives an ultimate PR win for Democrats, if they can

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00:09:51.480 So there is at least, there is one clip.

00:09:55.500 There's not at least one.

00:09:56.320 There's a most one clip yesterday from the testimony that Democrats are hanging their

00:10:00.620 hats on and saying, see, there's evidence of a quid pro quo.

00:10:04.440 We got to throw the president out of office.

00:10:05.960 Here it is.

00:10:06.320 Secretary Perry, Ambassador Volker, and I worked with Mr. Rudy Giuliani on Ukraine matters at

00:10:16.680 the express direction of the president of the United States.

00:10:20.140 We did not want to work with Mr. Giuliani.

00:10:24.920 Simply put, we were playing the hand we were dealt.

00:10:29.420 We all understood that if we refused to work with Mr. Giuliani, we would lose a very important

00:10:36.940 opportunity to cement relations between the United States and Ukraine.

00:10:41.600 So we followed the president's orders.

00:10:46.020 There it is.

00:10:46.940 We followed the president's orders.

00:10:50.660 They worked with Mr. Giuliani.

00:10:52.960 They followed the president's orders.

00:10:54.620 They didn't want to work with Mr. Giuliani, but they did.

00:10:58.200 So what's the problem here?

00:11:02.120 The, the implication, what Adam Schiff is using to say that there was a basic quid pro quo is

00:11:07.000 that the employees of the federal government, the diplomats were forced to work with the

00:11:12.300 president's personal lawyer.

00:11:13.720 Therefore, the president obviously had a personal interest in getting Ukraine to investigate

00:11:20.380 Joe Biden.

00:11:21.740 Therefore, this is evidence in and of itself of a quid pro quo.

00:11:25.980 Okay.

00:11:28.200 So when we're talking about the role of Rudy Giuliani here, I think it's perfectly valid

00:11:33.880 to raise the question.

00:11:34.820 Why is the president sending his personal lawyer here?

00:11:37.660 That's perfectly valid.

00:11:38.720 Obviously he's got an interest in it.

00:11:40.420 When we're talking about the role of Rudy Giuliani through Joe Biden being investigated, I think

00:11:46.660 it's perfectly valid to say an investigation of Joe Biden could potentially give some help

00:11:54.060 to Donald Trump.

00:11:56.020 Now I'm not totally convinced of that because I don't think Joe Biden is anywhere near the

00:12:00.700 actual front runner in this race for the democratic primary.

00:12:03.520 I don't think there's a very good chance that Joe Biden is going to get the nomination anyway.

00:12:06.880 So I don't think it would provide Trump a lot of help, but let's just go with all of that.

00:12:11.440 Compare that information to what we've seen in the past, not just two weeks, not just two

00:12:16.720 years, but really since Trump started running for office, there is a concerted effort in

00:12:22.720 the federal bureaucracy, the deep state to undermine the president's policy agenda.

00:12:27.780 You heard Lieutenant Colonel Vindman yesterday say that he's, Vindman is the one who makes

00:12:33.280 policy.

00:12:33.840 The interagency makes policy and the president better just go along with it.

00:12:37.800 And if the president's not going to go along with it, we're going to throw him out of office.

00:12:40.680 So you've got this, this attempted coup that's been going on for three years to overturn the

00:12:45.460 presidential election and overturn the policies of the president of the United States duly elected.

00:12:51.860 Don't you think it makes sense that president Trump would put his own, his own guys in there

00:12:55.920 just to oversee things, to make sure that everything's going all right.

00:12:58.960 To me, that makes perfect sense.

00:13:00.420 Now, is that, is that how the government should operate?

00:13:05.280 No, but should the deep state bureaucrats also be overturning the policies of the president

00:13:10.600 of the United States?

00:13:11.360 I don't think so.

00:13:12.460 I don't think that should be happening at all.

00:13:15.620 Now, even further, if you want the absolute end of it all, Sondland says, look, there was

00:13:24.220 no quid pro quo.

00:13:24.880 I was told not to engage in a quid pro quo, but I was told to work with Giuliani and that's

00:13:27.860 sort of a quid pro quo.

00:13:28.720 So if, if that's an issue here, why did Sondland not clarify all of this in his opening statement?

00:13:38.500 If there is any question at all of improper conduct of a quid pro quo, why did Ambassador

00:13:44.200 Sondland not put it in his 23 page opening statement and just say, hey, by the way, guys,

00:13:50.060 I did have a conversation with Trump.

00:13:52.020 He told me not to engage in a quid pro quo.

00:13:54.260 Jim Jordan nails him on it.

00:13:56.140 Why didn't you put that statement in your opening statement?

00:14:00.940 I think you said you couldn't fit it in.

00:14:03.420 Is that right?

00:14:04.980 Said we might be here for 46 minutes instead of 45 minutes.

00:14:08.980 It wasn't purposeful.

00:14:10.320 Trust me.

00:14:11.040 Wasn't purposeful?

00:14:12.020 No.

00:14:12.480 Couldn't fit it in a 23 page opener.

00:14:14.200 The most important statement about the subject matter at hand.

00:14:18.500 The president unites in a direct conversation with you about the issue at hand.

00:14:22.780 And the president says, let me read it one more time.

00:14:25.120 What do you want from Ukraine, Mr. President?

00:14:26.880 I want nothing.

00:14:28.220 I want no quid pro quo.

00:14:30.360 I want this new guy, brand new guy in politics.

00:14:34.160 His party just took over.

00:14:36.040 I want Zelensky to do the right thing.

00:14:37.780 I want him to run on and do what he ran on, which is deal with corruption.

00:14:41.680 And you can't find time to fit that in a 23 page opening statement.

00:14:45.800 Okay, this line of Sondland's that he just didn't have time.

00:14:51.880 You know, he was busy, he had to go run to the gym or something, so he didn't have time

00:14:55.080 to put that in there.

00:14:56.180 That doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

00:15:00.040 What I suspect here, and again, this is pure conjecture, is that Sondland didn't like the

00:15:06.320 idea that he had to work with Rudy Giuliani.

00:15:08.780 Maybe he didn't like the way that the Ukraine issue was being handled.

00:15:11.680 Maybe the Ukraine issue wasn't being handled in the same way as is traditional, as you

00:15:18.020 would see in typical State Department policy.

00:15:21.600 And so he's pushing back against the policy.

00:15:24.400 I think that's what's getting at the heart of it here.

00:15:27.340 When you're talking about the left-right divide, when you're talking about the bureaucracy versus

00:15:31.660 elected divide, I think you are getting down to an argument about policy.

00:15:36.780 And some people don't like the way that the president is conducting policy.

00:15:40.100 All right, too bad.

00:15:41.800 You can run for president, and then you can get elected, and you can have whatever policy

00:15:44.420 you want.

00:15:46.520 The American people need to be able to run their own government, and the American people

00:15:50.280 run their government through their duly elected representatives, not through bureaucrats, not

00:15:54.240 even through the appointed guys.

00:15:57.100 If there were evidence that the president committed an impeachable offense here, I think we would

00:16:03.580 have heard it.

00:16:04.080 I think we would have heard it by now after, what, the fifth or sixth star key witness.

00:16:09.360 But instead, what we heard from Sondland exonerates the president.

00:16:14.860 This should be the end of impeachment.

00:16:17.440 And yet, I guarantee you it's going to go on and on and on.

00:16:21.420 It's actually fine by me.

00:16:22.320 I think this helps Trump in the 2020 election.

00:16:25.780 I think the debate last night among the Democrats helps Trump in the 2020 election.

00:16:30.980 I think they want this to continue to go on, because the more this impeachment charade goes

00:16:35.000 on, the more the Democrats are showing you they have nothing to run on in 2020, and the

00:16:39.540 more the federal bureaucracy is showing their cards.

00:16:43.660 Fine by me.

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00:18:48.400 You've got the whole charade on impeachment, basically a distraction to try to hurt Trump

00:18:52.560 in 2020.

00:18:53.880 Then you've got the affirmative case for Democrats being made at the Democratic presidential

00:18:58.280 primary debates, a sort of frontrunner, erstwhile frontrunner, Joe Biden collapsing on stage,

00:19:04.580 not quite literally, almost literally.

00:19:06.980 He had nothing.

00:19:08.760 So Biden opens up the debate, making the case, his case for the presidency, as it has always

00:19:15.540 been, is that Joe Biden is the most electable.

00:19:19.380 Joe Biden is the most appealing.

00:19:21.920 Joe Biden is the best candidate to beat Trump.

00:19:25.160 Unfortunately, he was barely able to get the words out.

00:19:28.280 Well, look, the next president of the United States is going to have to do two things.

00:19:32.540 Defeat Donald Trump.

00:19:34.320 That's number one.

00:19:35.720 And number two, he's going to have to be able to go into states like Georgia and North Carolina

00:19:43.060 and other places and get a Senate majority.

00:19:46.000 That's what I'll do.

00:19:47.760 You have to ask yourself up here.

00:19:49.160 Who is most likely to be able to win the nomination in the first place, to win the presidency in

00:19:54.360 the first place?

00:19:55.200 OK, I would suggest, humbly, respectfully, the candidate most likely to get the nomination

00:20:02.960 in the first place and then beat Donald Trump is going to be the candidate who can form a

00:20:07.880 coherent English sentence.

00:20:08.960 And Joe Biden can't do that.

00:20:11.380 I don't know whether it's because of his age.

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00:20:15.060 He's also just kind of a doofus and has been a doofus for his whole political career as early 0.97

00:20:19.120 as the 80s. 0.97

00:20:19.840 You can't blame age in 1988 when Biden was still a young man.

00:20:25.100 So the whole argument saying, look, I'm the most electable candidate.

00:20:30.800 It only works if you can speak.

00:20:32.680 It only works if you have any energy on the campaign trail.

00:20:35.300 It only works if you can actually make your case.

00:20:37.840 Joe Biden was not able to do that.

00:20:40.080 When he could speak, it was even worse than when he couldn't speak.

00:20:42.680 Joe Biden was asked a question about domestic abuse, what we're going to do about domestic

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00:20:49.760 I kid you not, his answer was he was going to punch the issue hard and hard and hard.

00:20:55.000 If you turned that in to a Hollywood producer and said, this is the script.

00:21:00.000 If you turned it into Lorne Michaels, you're writing for Saturday Night Live and said, this

00:21:03.620 is my impression of Joe Biden. 0.99

00:21:05.340 They'd say, that's so ridiculous. 0.93

00:21:06.700 We're not even going to use that. 0.72

00:21:08.120 And yet here is Joe Biden himself saying he is going to viciously beat the issue of domestic

00:21:12.780 violence until it's a submissive pulp.

00:21:15.960 No man has a right to raise a hand to a woman in anger other than in self-defense. 0.68

00:21:23.100 And that's rarely ever occurs.

00:21:25.180 And so we have to just change the culture, period, and keep punching at it and punching

00:21:30.120 at it and punching at it.

00:21:31.560 It will be a big, no, I really mean it.

00:21:34.580 It's a gigantic issue.

00:21:36.640 Oh, Joe, what are you doing?

00:21:39.100 We need to change the culture.

00:21:41.520 That's the only way we're going to stop domestic violence. 0.83

00:21:43.160 We need to change the culture.

00:21:44.320 And the way we're going to change the culture is we're going to viciously beat that culture.

00:21:48.340 We're not going to talk to it reasonably or respectfully. 0.99

00:21:50.760 We're just going to punch it. 0.99

00:21:51.820 We're going to punch it until it does what we tell it to do. 1.00

00:21:54.640 And punching at it. 1.00

00:21:55.380 We're going to punch at it. 0.99

00:21:56.540 We're going to punch at it. 0.99

00:21:58.020 And we're going to punch at it. 0.99

00:21:59.020 Oh, awful, awful.

00:22:00.560 And he actually, in Joe's defense, went into the debate with a serious handicap, which is

00:22:09.520 he got bombshell news about three hours before the debate that his son, Hunter Biden, had

00:22:15.420 fathered a child out of wedlock with a 26-year-old woman in Arkansas, I believe.

00:22:22.020 A DNA testing established with scientific certainty that Hunter Biden is the father of an Arkansas

00:22:29.840 baby.

00:22:30.620 This is according to court papers in Arkansas.

00:22:36.260 Hunter Biden had met this young woman, London Alexis Roberts, while she was a student at George

00:22:42.680 Washington University, while Hunter Biden was dating his late brother's widow, and while Hunter

00:22:48.820 Biden was still not divorced from his own wife, now, why does this matter?

00:22:53.860 Am I just mentioning this to point out what an absolute degenerate Hunter Biden is?

00:22:57.800 Partially, but that's not the only reason. 0.99

00:22:59.400 I'm mentioning this because Hunter Biden, a guy who squandered his family's money on hookers

00:23:06.720 and drugs and strip clubs, that's according to divorce papers, Hunter Biden, who while he 1.00

00:23:11.540 was still married to his wife, began sleeping with his dead brother's widow, Hunter Biden,

00:23:18.720 who while he was doing both of those things, also fathered a child out of wedlock with a

00:23:23.540 26-year-old student at GW, Hunter Biden, who went on a coke-fueled drunk drive from Los Angeles

00:23:32.600 after getting into a fight at an LA nightclub all the way to Arizona, they find a crack pipe

00:23:37.960 in his car, and the cops don't press charges. That guy managed to land a position making

00:23:44.120 $600,000 a year on a Ukrainian energy company board. The whole story just underscores how

00:23:52.360 crooked this deal was with Hunter Biden in Ukraine, and Joe Biden knew about it, and Joe Biden said,

00:23:58.340 you better know what you're doing.

00:23:59.140 This has been a major hit for the Biden campaign. It's been, the impeachment story has been a major

00:24:07.840 hit for the Biden campaign. You know, it actually all relates to impeachment because Ambassador Sondland

00:24:14.820 was asked by this Congressman Sean Patrick Maloney, Democrat who I actually know. I worked on a campaign

00:24:19.940 against him back in olden years. Sean Maloney, pretty good politician, little oily, little unctuous,

00:24:26.640 but he's, he's very good at being a politician. It's about the worst thing you can say about

00:24:30.820 somebody. Sean Patrick Maloney asks Gordon Sondland, he said, who would have been helped

00:24:39.800 by a Ukrainian investigation into Joe Biden? And Sondland is expected to say, and he does say

00:24:45.440 eventually, that this would help Trump. I don't know that it helps Trump. I think Joe Biden is doing

00:24:50.400 a good enough job destroying his campaign on his own. I don't think an investigation would

00:24:56.300 really help them that much. I think Joe Biden's campaign is intrinsically flawed and his other

00:25:02.980 candidates on the stage, the other Democrats actually had a pretty good night at Joe's expense.

00:25:07.580 We'll get to that in a second. We'll get to a, I'm like so excited. I'm throwing things all over

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00:27:29.100 of money. Okay. Joe Biden had a very bad night. Elizabeth Warren had a pretty good night, but even

00:27:37.280 she wasn't so great. She is now pushing her wealth tax where she wants to steal money from billionaires, 1.00

00:27:42.420 but she won't admit that she's trying to steal money from billionaires. She is saying, look,

00:27:47.340 according to my healthcare plan, the way I'm going to pay for this $52 trillion plan,

00:27:50.920 I just want billionaires to contribute just a couple cents. Just give up a couple cents and we'll be able

00:27:55.860 to pay for everything. Here she is. You know, I have proposed a two cent wealth tax. That is a tax

00:28:01.660 for everybody who has more than $50 billion in assets. Your first 50 billion is free and clear,

00:28:07.300 but your 50 billionth and first dollar, you got to pitch in two cents. And when you hit a billion

00:28:11.680 dollars, you got to pitch in a few pennies more. Two cents. It's just two cents, right? She uses that 0.98

00:28:18.700 word throughout the debate, two cents. I don't think she knows what the word cent means. What she's

00:28:24.480 saying is there will be a 2% wealth tax. She also keeps confusing millionaires and billionaires in

00:28:28.620 there, but two cents is not two cents when you're talking about say a billion dollars. Two cents is

00:28:37.220 $20 million every single year. And what's difficult about this is that people don't just keep piles of

00:28:43.120 cash. What they do is they have their money in different investments. So what you could get into

00:28:47.060 a situation here is that these millionaires and billionaires have to start liquidating their assets,

00:28:54.800 actually selling off their assets just to pay the government, which has come into their door with a

00:28:58.520 gun in their hands and saying, give us your money, stick them up. The trouble is also, you've got a $52

00:29:02.740 trillion health plan Liz Warren is pushing. The total combined wealth of every billionaire in the

00:29:09.780 United States. There are 621 of them. The combined wealth is like $3.3 trillion, something like that.

00:29:16.520 So you could confiscate all their wealth, take the shirt off their back. You wouldn't be able to pay

00:29:20.340 for one year of Liz Warren's health plan. You'd get through 65% of one year. Then what? Then what do

00:29:26.720 you do? It's not just two cents. You've already taken all their money. Now what are you supposed to do?

00:29:31.020 Obviously those taxes are going to hit the middle class. She had a relatively fine night. She didn't

00:29:35.100 really improve, but she's, she's a decent candidate compared to the other jokers on the stage. 1.00

00:29:40.400 Cory Booker had an okay night. He did better than he usually does. Still probably not going anywhere.

00:29:44.940 Pete Buttigieg had a very strong night. He didn't make too many mistakes. He got into a fight with

00:29:49.760 Tulsi Gabbard and basically won it. He's moving up the polls in Iowa. He's moving up the polls in New

00:29:55.680 Hampshire. He said a while ago that the race was going to come down to Buttigieg and Warren. I think

00:29:59.340 there's a fair chance he might be right. We will get to a really disturbing story about

00:30:04.360 transgenderism. We will get to the mailbag, but first I've got to thank our friends over at the

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00:31:02.240 back with a lot more. Really disturbing story coming out of Palatine High School in Northwest

00:31:18.720 Illinois. Board members voted to give unrestricted locker room and restroom access to transgender students.

00:31:25.740 The board voted this way in a meeting attended by 500 people. Why did they do this? Because a

00:31:33.240 transgender student, meaning a boy pretending to be a girl, he identifies as Nova Mayday. That's his

00:31:40.180 name that he created. He filed one of two lawsuits against the high school in 2017. We actually have

00:31:48.320 some video of the scene after the vote. This young man was all smiles, grinning ear to ear, so happy

00:31:58.560 that he will now be able to go into the girls' locker room and the school will now force young 0.51

00:32:03.720 girls to undress in front of this man, in front of this post-pubescent man. You get the video of him 0.99

00:32:12.780 gloating about it and you get a video of a girl crying because she will now be forced to get naked

00:32:17.920 in front of boys in her school. This is where transgenderism ideology has led. Check it out. 1.00

00:32:25.400 I'm really hoping they vote for it. It's definitely going to be a step forward in progress. I'm really

00:32:34.340 excited if they vote for it. A bit nervous, though, as always, just you never know. But it's definitely

00:32:42.460 a first step forward in many more steps. It's a great policy. Unfortunately, it's not everything we want,

00:32:50.460 such as talking about even the small things like changing the name on your student ID, which you're

00:32:56.940 required to wear at all times. So I'm really hoping that the district makes the right decision here

00:33:03.200 and votes it. Yeah, it passed. It passed. And how does that make you feel? Oh, I'm ecstatic.

00:33:15.180 I'm just... I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

00:33:18.260 I feel uncomfortable that my privacy is being invaded. As I am a swimmer, I do change multiple

00:33:29.440 times naked in front of the other students in the locker room. And I understand that the

00:33:37.380 board has an obligation to all students, but I was hoping that they would go about this

00:33:42.420 in a different way that would also accommodate students such as myself.

00:33:46.580 This is so profoundly screwed up. This is so disturbing. This is exactly what we all predicted.

00:33:56.240 We talked about this yesterday. Conservatives always predict what will happen on the so-called

00:34:01.640 slippery slope. And then leftists tell us that we're just hysterical. We're crazy. It's not going

00:34:07.480 to happen. And then it happens. And they say, oh, come on, get over it. It's no big deal.

00:34:10.800 Men should not be allowed into the girls' locker room. Girls should not be forced to get naked in 1.00

00:34:20.400 front of men. This is a fact. This is simple enough. This is a gross miscarriage of justice

00:34:28.520 that's going on at this high school. So much for feminism. And I don't even like feminism. So much 1.00

00:34:36.300 for traditional social norms. So much for chivalry. The age of chivalry really is gone when a man is

00:34:43.440 going to force his way in to watch women get naked in a locker room. Adults are permitting this. 0.99

00:34:51.840 Adults are enforcing this. All of these adults on the school board and the school administrators

00:34:58.940 who push for this, all of them should lose their jobs. All of them should be ostracized from polite

00:35:03.600 society. This is profoundly wrong. The law is clearly moving in this direction because leftism

00:35:14.500 is advancing. So-called social justice. There's no actual justice here. There's only injustice.

00:35:21.420 We must push back against this through all social means that we possibly can. What has happened here

00:35:29.060 is horrible. Every school board member should be absolutely deprived of belonging to polite society.

00:35:38.740 All of them. They should, they should not be permitted in polite society. We need to keep up

00:35:43.020 the pressure campaign. What the left wants to do is just say, look, we got it. We got this win here.

00:35:48.280 We got this win there. Go along. It's okay. Be inclusive. Be nice. Be tolerant. No, don't give up

00:35:54.500 on this issue. This issue. This is outrageous what's going on. These issues are going to make

00:35:58.840 it up to the Supreme Court. We need to make sure that when it does get up to the Supreme Court,

00:36:02.660 we've already got a few cases like it at the court, that the right decision comes out. The court

00:36:06.840 follows public opinion. The court pays attention to elections. The court looks at the protests that

00:36:12.500 are going out outside the courthouse on those very days. If you adhere to this gender ideology, 0.91

00:36:19.700 then you are forcing young girls to get naked in front of post-pubescent men in locker rooms.

00:36:26.980 And every one of those tears that those little girls are crying, justifiably so, is on you.

00:36:34.220 All right, let's get to the mailbag. First question from Ashley. Michael, if you could construct an

00:36:40.140 ark to preserve man's greatest works of art and literature, what would be the first three things

00:36:46.180 that you would put in there after the Bible? I would put in Shakespeare, I would put in Dante,

00:36:51.940 and I would put in Homer. Those would be the first three works of art and literature.

00:36:58.100 I would put in other, if we're including philosophy and nonfiction works and histories,

00:37:04.060 I would put in other works, but Shakespeare, Dante, and Homer. By the way, if you read those three

00:37:07.280 things, you will have a very good sense of Western literature. From Bryce. Michael, how do you

00:37:12.820 distinguish between patriotism and jingoism? What can conservatives with temperance do to balance

00:37:19.120 love of country with mindless crowdthink? By jingoism here, you mean this extreme excessive

00:37:25.580 patriotism. Another word that could be used for this is chauvinism. There's a big difference between

00:37:31.900 love of country and chauvinism or jingoism. Chauvinism comes from a real person or at least a real

00:37:39.100 apocryphal story. I know that sounds like a contradiction in terms, but from a person

00:37:44.460 that the French people believed was real, though he might've just been a legend, Nicolas Chauvin.

00:37:48.980 They believe he was born around 1780. He enlisted in the military at age 18. He served honorably. He

00:37:55.460 was wounded 17 times in the service of his nation. He didn't care. They're blown off his limbs. He's

00:38:00.380 going to go back out there and fight. And he had severe disfigurement and maiming, but he loved his

00:38:04.760 country so much. And the story goes for his loyalty and service, Napoleon himself gave the

00:38:11.400 soldier the saber of honor and a pension of 200 francs. Did this really happen? We're not sure.

00:38:16.740 But the story of it is this story of excessive love of country, sort of single-minded love of

00:38:22.420 country. You don't want that. Love of country is a beautiful thing. And this would typically today

00:38:29.080 be referred to as nationalism. But I don't even really use that term so much. I just think love

00:38:35.840 of country is justified just like you love your father and you love your mother and you love your

00:38:39.800 community. So too do you love your family. But you should not ground your identity primarily in your

00:38:46.960 country. You need to, you can't ground your identity in anything that is merely temporal and

00:38:52.760 ephemeral. You've got to ground your identity ultimately in something metaphysical, ultimately in

00:38:58.580 God, who is the source and summit of all identity. If you do that, then all those other natural loves

00:39:04.000 will follow. Natural love of country, natural love of family, natural love of everything. If you try to

00:39:10.840 ground your identity in something ephemeral, it's going to pervert all of those other identities and

00:39:16.060 you're going to get bizarre, extreme obsessiveness like jingoism and chauvinism. From Jasmine,

00:39:22.020 hello, Michael, I saw the men's conference panel that you were on. This is a reference to,

00:39:29.300 whose panel was that? So the, gosh, his name escapes me. We were on, I was on a men's panel

00:39:35.800 with a moderator. Gosh, totally forget his name. Well, I'll remember it right after the show is over

00:39:42.220 and I'll tweet it out. He said, oh, Jesse Peterson. Thankfully. Okay, good. It finally came to me.

00:39:46.900 Jesse, Jesse Peterson, good friend of mine, a little eccentric character, but I like him. He asked,

00:39:52.900 if it was not for sex, would men have anything to do with women? The letter goes on. You and most of

00:39:59.880 the other panelists all said, no, a few reasons were given, including beauty and procreation. As a

00:40:04.480 woman, I was put off to say the least. If those are the only benefits to women, what point or purpose 0.99

00:40:09.080 are left for the ugly or fat women or women unable to bear children? I look forward to your response. 1.00

00:40:13.100 Thanks. I did not say no. I'll go back and look at the tape, but I believe what I said was that

00:40:19.680 if not for sex differences, there would be no such thing as women, which is a very different answer.

00:40:28.140 If Jesse's question was, if not for sex, would you have anything to do with women? My answer is,

00:40:33.980 if not for sex, there would not be women. What is a woman? A woman is sexually complimentary 1.00

00:40:41.340 complimentary to a man. The reason that there is a difference between men and women is because there 0.81

00:40:46.240 is a sexual difference between men and women. So the question, if not for sex, would you have 0.66

00:40:52.380 anything to do with women? Is a nonsensical question. It's like saying, if there were no 0.97

00:40:56.220 women, would you have anything to do with women? I guess not because there wouldn't be women. Then 0.96

00:41:00.080 everyone would just be the same category, which we could call either men or women, but there wouldn't

00:41:04.860 be both. So that is my answer. Now, obviously I'm not just talking about physical sex. I'm not just

00:41:10.140 talking about that fun thing that people do at night. I'm talking about everything else that

00:41:16.280 flows from sexual difference, our personality differences, our domestic differences, the way

00:41:21.840 that men and women compliment each other from the very beginning of time. I totally stand by that

00:41:28.780 answer. And I think so much of gender ideology today stems from a misunderstanding of the fact of

00:41:35.060 sexual difference. The confusion about marriage stems from a misunderstanding of the fact that

00:41:39.860 sexual difference is essential to human life. Within the first few chapters of Genesis, you see the

00:41:46.140 importance of that sexual difference. And that's a wonderful thing, not to be resented, but to be

00:41:51.040 celebrated. And I certainly celebrate it. From Ty. Hello, Michael. Do you think another kingdom would

00:41:56.420 translate well to the silver screen or if it would require too many special effects for the amazing

00:42:01.180 scenes within? And would you be willing to play Austin Lively if the role were offered to you?

00:42:05.700 Or do you have anyone you would recommend for the role? Of course I would play the role. And I think

00:42:10.780 it would be great on the silver screen or really in a TV adaptation. Drew received a number of requests

00:42:18.200 to bring this before Hollywood, especially after the first season, which was a pretty big hit.

00:42:22.760 We're talking about very large production companies. Trouble was, once he got into the room,

00:42:27.760 maybe the night before, they actually Googled him. And I think because of his politics, maybe because

00:42:31.980 of my politics, it was basically not seriously considered for Hollywood. It's too bad. I think

00:42:37.620 it would be a great project. It's obviously been very, very successful as a podcast. If it were

00:42:43.340 created by a left-wing novelist, there is no doubt in my mind it would already be in development at a

00:42:48.100 studio. That's the way it is in Hollywood. That's why we've got to make our own stuff. From Walter.

00:42:52.260 Hi, Michael. Love the show. Please help me understand why so many, if not all, of the roads

00:42:58.120 to dismantle this once great country always lead back to Yale. Not only the actors, but Yale also

00:43:04.180 is the keeper of many secrets. For instance, the records from that immoral twin study, among others.

00:43:09.920 Recently, there have even been rumors of a connection to Jeffrey Epstein, who, parenthetically,

00:43:14.820 didn't commit suicide. I'd love to hear what you think. Fair question. I don't actually know the

00:43:21.240 details about the examples you mentioned, but it is true. There are a lot of nefarious things in

00:43:29.480 American history that have led back to Yale. Well, for instance, the recent breakdown of the

00:43:33.320 American category of universities started in the courtyard at Yale, where a young girl screamed 0.73

00:43:38.580 and yelled at her professor, and you saw that then take over universities around the country.

00:43:44.680 The reason for this, I don't think, is some great conspiracy. I think it's because Yale is

00:43:48.540 very, very old. It was one of the first universities in the country. It's significantly older than the

00:43:53.660 nation itself, and Yale has always been a sort of elite institution. It wasn't always even the

00:44:00.800 most intellectually rigorous. For a long time, it was considered just a sort of finishing school for

00:44:05.400 gentlemen. When JFK gave a speech there, he got an honorary degree, and he said, now I have the two

00:44:11.520 greatest things you can have from the American Academy, a Harvard education and a Yale degree.

00:44:16.420 That was sort of what he was alluding to, but it's because it's very old, and it's because it's got a

00:44:22.460 reputation as elite. By the way, this is why the left has infiltrated it. That's why they made such a

00:44:27.340 point of taking over Yale, so that now you have something more resembling zombie Yale. On the outside,

00:44:32.760 it basically looks the same, but on the inside, it has been rotted out by leftism. It doesn't only happen

00:44:36.980 at Yale, it happens in so many institutions. The deep state, you know, the federal bureaucracy,

00:44:41.660 the left has gone into that federal government, taken so much power for itself, rotted it out from

00:44:47.800 within, and so you see a lot of conspiracies develop there. I don't know if it's exactly the

00:44:52.740 fault of the institution. I think that the institution had prestige and power, and that's why the left has

00:44:57.640 gone into it. It's not going to stop at Yale. It's not going to stop at the State Department. It's going

00:45:02.640 to, the left is always going to go into those institutions. The key for conservatives is we can't

00:45:07.740 abandon them. We can't just say, okay, you can have it, but, but we're going to have our own

00:45:12.960 institution somewhere else. The left is going to go for that too. They're going to do it at the

00:45:16.240 churches. They're going to do it at your civic associations. You have got to fight back. From

00:45:20.500 Danny. Hi, Michael. My boyfriend and I have been dating for close to four years now. As of late,

00:45:26.420 I've been struggling with the idea of abstinence and wonder what your thoughts might be on walking back

00:45:32.280 that part of the relationship. It might be a part of my spiritual reawakening, as cliche as I truly

00:45:38.460 know that sounds. I feel like it's important right now in our relationship to build on stronger ties

00:45:44.000 and focus on the sexual avenues after marriage. Any advice you might have on talking to my boyfriend

00:45:49.560 about this would be helpful. Thanks. So what you're saying is you're already in a sexual relationship.

00:45:55.120 Now you're having a spiritual reawakening, and you think it's time to dial that back. I think that's a

00:46:00.000 great idea. I think it is a great idea. And this is an issue that a lot of young people are dealing

00:46:05.200 with today. I told you I was an atheist for 10 years, and I behaved like one when I was an atheist.

00:46:10.000 A friend of mine, actually, who experienced life as a millennial does during his teenage years and in

00:46:17.060 his 20s. He's had a spiritual reawakening, a religious reawakening, and he's actually now dialing

00:46:22.960 back what was a fairly prodigious sex life of his and attempting to abstain from sex until

00:46:29.740 marriage. I think it's a good idea. It's kind of the opposite of what the boomers went through in 0.90

00:46:33.740 the 60s. Our parents' generation was told, you've got to have a traditional sexual morality. They

00:46:40.220 rebelled against that, and you got the cult of free love. Now millennials and Gen Z are seeing where that

00:46:46.020 has led us, and it's led us down some pretty dark paths. And so what millennials and Gen Z are saying

00:46:51.480 is, hold on, we should dial back the free love. We should dial it back to a traditional morality.

00:46:56.440 I think that makes a whole lot of sense, and I think your boyfriend, if he's worth his salt,

00:47:01.340 will be amenable to that. Because even men, there's this ridiculous caricature out that we're just sort

00:47:07.060 of grunting buffoons, and all we want to do is have sex all the time. Maybe that's 90% true, 0.99

00:47:12.780 but there is a 10% of men, 10% of our inner lives, that recognize that there is a transcendent moral order.

00:47:20.480 And I think that if the women in our lives were to say, hold on a second, maybe we shouldn't do this,

00:47:27.940 then we would listen. This has traditionally been the role of women. Men pursue, women resist, 0.99

00:47:33.240 and then you get married and you have a good life together. That is my advice for you,

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The Michael Knowles Show - November 21, 2019

Ep. 454 - Quid Pro No

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