The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 540 - Court Jester Conservatism

00:00:00.680 In an interview conducted in front of the Lincoln Memorial, President Trump claims he's the most persecuted president in history, including Honest Abe.

00:00:11.200 While everyone on the left and the right mock the wild claim, few are picking up on the keen piece of political wisdom in Trump's statement.

00:00:18.520 Then, Michigan dictatrix Gretchen Whitmer calls her conservative constituents Nazis,

00:00:23.860 the New York Times wins a Pulitzer for rewriting American history, and the federal government predicts more deaths from coronavirus.

00:00:31.500 All that and more. I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:41.500 So which is it? Who is more persecuted? President Trump or Abraham Lincoln?

00:00:46.760 I know a lot of factors to weigh here. You know, half the country seceding from the Union and getting shot.

00:00:52.760 Not in a theater and also having to deal with Jim Acosta.

00:00:57.560 Those are two key signs of persecution at the very least, more than two.

00:01:02.360 So please let us know in the comments section below.

00:01:05.140 People are making fun of him for this.

00:01:07.240 It actually shows us a key political truth, something that lies at the heart of a lot of the conservative debates today,

00:01:14.720 at the heart of politics. We'll get to that in a second.

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00:02:48.980 So, in this interview conducted before the Lincoln Memorial, giant Abraham Lincoln looking down on President Trump.

00:02:59.240 He's there speaking with Martha McCallum and Brett Baer.

00:03:02.240 They're taking some questions from people around the country.

00:03:04.860 And one woman who says she's a Trump supporter asks Trump a question about his style.

00:03:10.560 And the style point here is, why is Trump so mean?

00:03:15.420 Why does he get into these fights?

00:03:17.420 Why does he brawl with people who are critics of his and who are the mainstream media, but I repeat myself.

00:03:23.200 And Trump's answer is very indicative of a major divide on the right.

00:03:31.920 Here's the question.

00:03:32.460 Why do you use descriptive words that could be classified as bullying?

00:03:36.620 And why do you not directly answer the questions asked by the press, but instead speak of past successes and generally ramble?

00:03:43.380 The USA needs you.

00:03:44.760 Please let go of those behaviors that are turning people away from you.

00:03:48.320 Please hold on to your wonderful attributes that make you our great leader and let go of other characteristics that do not serve you.

00:03:54.840 Good.

00:03:55.580 I think I like that question.

00:03:57.020 I'm not sure, but I think I like that question.

00:03:58.820 I appreciate it.

00:03:59.600 I appreciate the prayers, too, very much.

00:04:01.580 Now, look at his response to this.

00:04:04.060 His response is disproving a little bit of the point that this woman is trying to make.

00:04:08.420 Because the woman's saying, why are you so mean? 1.00

00:04:10.220 Why are you such a jerk? 1.00

00:04:11.720 Surely Trump is a jerk sometimes, but he's not a jerk all the time. 1.00

00:04:15.120 And his response, at least initially, is actually to charm her, right? 1.00

00:04:19.700 It's not to yell at her and say, how dare you?

00:04:21.380 I'm a nice guy.

00:04:22.020 I'm a cool guy.

00:04:22.460 He goes, I think I like that question.

00:04:25.120 I think she's complimenting me.

00:04:26.400 I'm not so sure.

00:04:27.400 But OK, we'll get into it.

00:04:28.480 Thank you for the question.

00:04:29.340 Thank you for the prayers.

00:04:30.220 So we're seeing there are different sides to the guy's personality.

00:04:35.140 But no one can deny he does get into fights.

00:04:38.200 He is mean.

00:04:38.980 He does boast about his accomplishments.

00:04:41.600 He does correct reporters and get testy with reporters.

00:04:46.280 He does that, as he says, because he has to.

00:04:50.300 I am greeted with a hostile press, the likes of which no president has ever seen.

00:04:57.280 The closest would be that gentleman right up there.

00:05:00.080 They always said Lincoln.

00:05:01.360 Nobody got treated worse than Lincoln.

00:05:03.560 I believe I am treated worse.

00:05:06.020 You're there.

00:05:06.740 You see those press conferences.

00:05:08.340 They come at me with questions that are disgraceful.

00:05:11.580 To be honest, disgraceful, their manner of presentation and their words.

00:05:16.160 And I feel that if I was kind to them, I'd be I'd be walked off the stage.

00:05:22.040 I mean, they come at you with the most horrible, horrendous, biased questions.

00:05:27.660 And you see it.

00:05:28.760 Ninety four and ninety five percent of the press is hostile.

00:05:31.600 And yet, if you look in Florida today, we had hundreds and hundreds of boats going up

00:05:37.920 and down the intercoastal Trump, Trump. 0.89

00:05:40.500 We have tremendous support.

00:05:42.340 But the media is they might as well be in the Democrat Party.

00:05:46.400 You knew that President Trump could not do an interview sitting in front of this giant

00:05:50.280 Abraham Lincoln without comparing himself to Lincoln.

00:05:53.240 And so that's the line that everybody's talking about.

00:05:56.000 And that's the reason that the whole clip is going viral.

00:05:58.380 And it's very good that that clip is going viral because it shows a key defense of the

00:06:03.520 Trump era.

00:06:04.260 And it gives us a little bit of advice moving forward.

00:06:07.840 Trump does not have the advantage of being nice.

00:06:12.980 That's what he's saying.

00:06:15.120 Saying, look, do I want to be nice?

00:06:16.720 Yeah, maybe I do want to be nice.

00:06:17.960 But he doesn't have the advantage of being nice.

00:06:21.600 Republicans and conservatives who actually want to accomplish something in politics do not

00:06:27.700 have the advantage of being nice.

00:06:30.720 That's if you want to accomplish something.

00:06:32.300 That's if you want to win.

00:06:33.420 Some Republicans and conservatives don't want to win.

00:06:37.920 I'm not saying this as some kind of personal attack on them.

00:06:42.340 I'm not, I don't think I'm being hyperbolic here.

00:06:44.760 I think it's pretty clear that some Republicans and conservatives feel much more comfortable losing

00:06:50.520 gracefully than winning.

00:06:52.920 When you win, there's a risk to that.

00:06:55.100 But then you have to do something.

00:06:56.920 Then you're going to be held accountable for what you've done.

00:06:58.800 You might make a mistake.

00:06:59.740 You might do the wrong thing.

00:07:01.040 If you lose gracefully, then you get to preserve your purity.

00:07:04.940 Then people can like you.

00:07:06.720 Then the New York Times will write nice things about you once you've lost.

00:07:10.020 I mean, I think of people like John McCain, for instance, in politics.

00:07:15.600 John McCain didn't want to win in 2008.

00:07:18.780 He didn't play to win.

00:07:20.420 He played to lose.

00:07:21.280 He suspended his presidential campaign.

00:07:23.460 The guy, like you couldn't possibly show more clearly how you're not trying to win.

00:07:32.040 John McCain wanted the New York Times to like him.

00:07:34.880 John McCain campaigned on repealing Obamacare for years and years and years and years and

00:07:39.100 years.

00:07:39.300 And then he had the opportunity to do it.

00:07:40.720 And he didn't do it.

00:07:41.740 He didn't want to do it.

00:07:43.120 He, he, he, and he's just one example among many.

00:07:45.360 There are the Mitt Romneys.

00:07:46.260 There are other Republicans too, who would much rather play by the rules of liberalism.

00:07:51.160 I call this kind of conservatism court jester conservatism.

00:07:54.840 They would rather be the court jester in the kingdom of liberalism than actually strike

00:07:59.880 out on their own and change the political realities around us.

00:08:04.440 You know, they would rather be different versions of this kind of, kind of conservative.

00:08:09.320 They would rather be Archie Bunker or Ron Swanson.

00:08:12.660 This kind of neat little liberal caricature of a conservative fit into a nice little box

00:08:19.120 within the broader framework of liberalism.

00:08:22.500 You know, somewhat likable maybe, but ultimately a joke.

00:08:25.940 We, we see this now with the Justin Amash campaign for president.

00:08:29.820 There's Justin Amash is that libertarian congressman who's running for president now against Donald

00:08:34.840 Trump.

00:08:35.080 Of course, he'll never win.

00:08:36.560 As of now, his political career is completely dead.

00:08:39.380 He is just a sort of media phenomenon and a, using phenomenon is stretching that word to

00:08:45.360 a ridiculous extent, but he's playing a role within the liberal framework, right?

00:08:51.660 He's playing by the left's premises and filling a role left for conservatives by the left.

00:08:58.120 So, you know, Ron Swanson, right?

00:09:00.440 The Parks and Rec character, he's this kind of curmudgeonly conservative and he can't really

00:09:04.880 accomplish anything, but you know, he can be sort of frustrated and curmudgeonly.

00:09:09.160 It's the same thing with any conservative character that has ever been on television,

00:09:13.200 which is they make him kind of curmudgeonly and, but ultimately you like him, but you like

00:09:17.520 him mostly because he's ineffectual.

00:09:19.780 There are a lot of conservatives who want to play that role, who want to be the curmudgeonly

00:09:23.080 but ineffectual right-winger who, you know, he resists the waves of progress with a capital

00:09:29.200 P, but, uh, you know, ultimately he, he can't really succeed.

00:09:33.640 Those are the conservatives who want to lose.

00:09:35.400 Some conservatives want to win.

00:09:37.560 Okay.

00:09:38.320 When you want to win, you've got to be everything.

00:09:40.720 When you want to win, you've got to be the visionary, the speaker, the organizer, the

00:09:45.700 policy wonk, the newsman, the entertainer, the critic, and the historian.

00:09:50.540 And it's funny because when you're the entertainer, in a way you've got to be

00:09:52.920 kind of a court jester or you've, you've at least got to engage people on this, this level

00:09:57.900 of entertainment, but you're playing by a different set of rules here.

00:10:00.940 You've got to be everything though.

00:10:02.980 Donald Trump in the same answer has to be mean and serious and tough to Jim Acosta, but really

00:10:07.580 nice and charming to his supporter.

00:10:09.440 And he's also got to be the historian because the left always rewrites history.

00:10:13.140 So he's got to remind everybody of his own accomplishments and we'll see how the left

00:10:16.440 rewrites history in just a moment with the New York times.

00:10:18.940 He's also got to be the newsman because the news can't be expected to report what he's doing

00:10:22.880 honestly.

00:10:23.700 And so he's got to correct the record on the news.

00:10:25.580 He's got to put out his own counter news narrative.

00:10:28.400 You got to do all of these things if you want to accomplish anything because the entire edifice

00:10:34.700 of politics is premised on liberalism.

00:10:38.480 It is working against you.

00:10:40.280 It is progressive.

00:10:41.860 Probably the greatest example of this in the last hundred years is Winston Churchill, right?

00:10:47.860 Winston Churchill, Trump compares himself to Abraham Lincoln.

00:10:51.920 Now I'll try to make a comparison to Winston Churchill.

00:10:54.620 Churchill did this the best, better than anybody.

00:10:57.320 He was the visionary.

00:10:58.480 He was the speaker.

00:10:59.640 He was also the historian.

00:11:00.880 He wrote the history of the English speaking people, the history of the Second World War.

00:11:04.700 He was also the entertainer.

00:11:06.000 He's probably known more for his one liners, for his wit than he is for his military strategy.

00:11:12.640 He was also a newsman.

00:11:14.060 He was actually a journalist himself during wars.

00:11:17.280 He was an organizer.

00:11:18.960 He was a policy wonk.

00:11:19.960 He was all of it.

00:11:21.760 You have to be all of it.

00:11:23.440 The liberals, the left, don't have to be all of that because they've got the mainstream media

00:11:28.000 back to back them up.

00:11:28.980 Joe Biden said just yesterday or the day before that the Biden campaign is relying on the media

00:11:35.060 to deal with this Tara Reade investigation because he's not going to be able to do that.

00:11:38.960 It's too difficult.

00:11:39.960 They've got the media.

00:11:41.100 They've got the bureaucracy.

00:11:42.580 They've got the university.

00:11:43.900 They've got Hollywood.

00:11:45.200 They've got the historians, I guess, are at the university and they're at Hollywood.

00:11:50.040 Sometimes Hollywood rewrites history too.

00:11:51.740 They've got all of it.

00:11:53.320 Okay?

00:11:53.860 So their job is much, much easier.

00:11:56.460 And for conservatives who don't care about winning, for conservatives who just want to

00:12:00.060 go along to get along and play a role but not change anything in politics, they don't

00:12:04.380 need to worry that much either.

00:12:05.400 They've just got to fill their own little silo.

00:12:07.060 But if you want to change things in politics, you've got to do a lot more.

00:12:11.160 And sometimes that means being mean to Jim Acosta and that's just too bad.

00:12:15.200 We talked yesterday on the show about how this is not neutral playing ground.

00:12:19.300 Okay?

00:12:19.640 There is no kumbaya and no getting along.

00:12:22.280 The left is not going to kumbaya with you.

00:12:24.960 We'll get to how that is in a second.

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00:13:43.560 You know, sometimes conservatives, like during the Tea Party era, for instance, they love to

00:13:48.440 wave that Gadsden flag.

00:13:49.940 That's the yellow flag with the snake on it.

00:13:52.080 It says, don't tread on me.

00:13:53.560 I like that flag.

00:13:54.740 It's an early revolutionary flag.

00:13:56.240 But that flag kind of plays into that liberal premise a little bit, I think, in modern times.

00:14:03.000 You know, that don't tread on me.

00:14:04.260 Just leave me alone.

00:14:05.240 I'm not really going to engage in trying to change politics.

00:14:08.240 I just want to be left alone.

00:14:10.240 And so it's not my favorite flag.

00:14:12.360 You know, I've still got it.

00:14:13.320 I've got it on my desks and things like that.

00:14:15.120 But the flag that I prefer is one of the original American flags.

00:14:18.940 It's called the Bedford flag.

00:14:20.520 And it really shows you political stakes.

00:14:22.460 It's a knight's arm, coat of arms, and it's holding a sword.

00:14:26.820 And it says, vince out morire, conquer or die.

00:14:30.700 That's politics for you, all right?

00:14:32.880 To quote Cocaine Mitch McConnell, the winners go and make laws and the losers go home.

00:14:40.820 There's no, if you lose gracefully, you'll get a nice write-up in the New York Times, maybe,

00:14:45.340 and you will have no effect whatsoever.

00:14:48.020 Progressivism, as we talked about yesterday, is out to destroy everything you cherish.

00:14:53.860 You are the target, okay?

00:14:55.640 No kumbaya, no play nice on the left.

00:14:58.580 Listen to the way that Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan talks about her conservative constituents.

00:15:03.840 Some conservative constituents came out the other day.

00:15:06.900 They were protesting these draconian and arbitrary lockdown orders.

00:15:11.380 Regular good old American patriots waving the American flag.

00:15:14.600 Whitmer, I guess she was looking at a different scene at the Capitol than we all were.

00:15:18.020 All she could see were Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan.

00:15:22.420 Displays like the one that we saw at our Capitol is not representative of who we are in Michigan.

00:15:27.460 There were swastikas and Confederate flags and nooses and people with assault rifles.

00:15:32.900 And that's the very, you know, that's a small group of people.

00:15:35.780 When you think about the fact that this is a state of almost 10 million people,

00:15:38.860 the vast majority of whom are doing the right thing.

00:15:41.360 And that's why we've seen our curve get pushed down.

00:15:43.980 We've saved lives in the process and we have to keep listening to the epidemiologists and

00:15:48.320 experts and not listen to the partisan rhetoric or these political rallies or tweets for that matter.

00:15:54.660 We have to keep doing the right thing, the next right thing. 0.85

00:15:57.920 All of my opponents are Nazis. 0.97

00:16:00.180 They're all Klansmen. 1.00

00:16:01.300 They're racists. 1.00

00:16:02.220 They're terrible, evil, bigoted people. 1.00

00:16:04.400 And we've got to tone down the partisan rhetoric. 0.98

00:16:08.100 Okay.

00:16:08.700 We shouldn't listen to politicians.

00:16:10.660 We should only listen to epidemiologists.

00:16:12.800 Hi, I'm Governor Gretchen Whitmer, PhD, MD.

00:16:16.760 Is she?

00:16:16.980 I don't know.

00:16:17.400 I don't think so.

00:16:17.880 I don't think she's a doctor or an epidemiologist.

00:16:20.780 No.

00:16:21.300 I mean, it's cartoonishly absurd language that she's using.

00:16:26.460 None of which is true.

00:16:27.540 None of which is true.

00:16:28.640 First of all, we don't need to only listen to the epidemiologists.

00:16:31.620 We're a free people who govern ourselves.

00:16:35.080 Of course, we need to engage in politics.

00:16:37.820 We don't just export all of our politics and outsource them to the exalted Dr. Fauci.

00:16:43.720 I don't remember reading that in the constitution.

00:16:45.980 We govern ourselves.

00:16:47.560 And it's only the demagogues right now who are saying get politics out of this.

00:16:51.340 Kind of ironic.

00:16:52.140 It's only the political demagogues who are telling people to get politics out of this.

00:16:56.140 But then what about her claim?

00:16:57.200 She says that there were all these Nazis and Ku Klux Klan at the rally.

00:17:01.260 I mean, I didn't go to the protest in Michigan, but I saw a lot of videos from it.

00:17:05.260 And I got to tell you, I didn't see any swastikas.

00:17:07.400 I didn't see any Ku Klux Klan hoods.

00:17:10.240 We've got some video of it.

00:17:11.840 Let me tell you, if you've, if you've seen any going around on the internet, if you can

00:17:15.180 listen to the chants here, do you hear any, any people shouting in German?

00:17:18.580 Ryan is going to talk to us right now on his experience in this crisis.

00:17:25.580 And he's going to share his thoughts as to really why we're all here today, guys.

00:17:30.300 So let's give a big round of applause for Ryan.

00:17:36.800 I'm looking around that scene.

00:17:38.340 I got to tell you, I don't see any Nazi flags.

00:17:41.400 I see a lot of American flags.

00:17:43.740 I see the one, actually the one Nazi symbol that I see is somebody depicting Gretchen

00:17:49.360 Whitmer as Hitler. 0.64

00:17:50.780 Maybe that's what she saw and she got confused.

00:17:53.420 Is, but if you're, if you've got a sign, uh, portraying your political opponent as Hitler

00:17:59.700 or Mussolini or whoever, whatever evil guy you want to talk about, then you're not a pro

00:18:07.380 Nazi protester.

00:18:08.520 You're an anti-Nazi protester, right?

00:18:12.040 Other than that, what do I say?

00:18:13.220 I see some Gadsden flags, the flag we were just talking about.

00:18:16.000 Don't tread on me.

00:18:17.120 I see a lot of American patriots who just don't want to have their rights trampled by an arbitrary

00:18:24.240 government.

00:18:26.540 And yet she calls all these people Nazis and racists.

00:18:31.200 Imagine if you had a right-wing rally or rather you had a right-wing governor and a left-wing

00:18:39.160 rally outside and the governor was asked, what do you think about the protests?

00:18:44.020 You know, and, and at the, let's say it was a left-wing protest.

00:18:46.200 So it had lots of left-wing symbols.

00:18:47.680 It had, you know, the gay pride flag and it had, uh, I don't know, uh, some, like some 0.59

00:18:55.580 environmentalist flag and it's just kind of typical symbols.

00:18:59.060 You know, the right has the American flags and then the left has all these kinds of special

00:19:02.600 interest flags.

00:19:03.260 And let's say that the Republican governor came out and said, oh, all those people.

00:19:06.800 Yeah. 1.00

00:19:07.060 They're a bunch of disgusting, despicable, deplorable, irredeemable, irredeemable, evil, awful people 1.00

00:19:13.040 who have no place in this country. 1.00

00:19:16.580 What would the reaction to that be?

00:19:18.380 I wouldn't support, I'm a right-winger.

00:19:20.680 I wouldn't support that kind of rhetoric.

00:19:22.700 I, the media obviously wouldn't tolerate that kind of rhetoric, but that's the place we're

00:19:28.340 in.

00:19:28.560 The conservatives generally try to play nice and the left is playing for keeps.

00:19:34.520 They're doing this not just by rewriting the present.

00:19:39.140 Okay.

00:19:39.400 They're not just propagandizing in the present.

00:19:41.540 Progressives are also rewriting the past, not just the details, not just some characters

00:19:48.580 in the past that they're going to tweak a little bit.

00:19:50.420 They are rewriting now the fundamental purpose of the American Revolution and they're winning 0.60

00:19:58.520 Pulitzer Prizes for it.

00:19:59.860 We'll get to that in one second.

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00:21:10.220 New York Times just won a Pulitzer Prize, and the Pulitzer Prize came for its reporting

00:21:19.580 on the 1619 Project.

00:21:23.040 The 1619 Project traces American history back to the arrival of the first African slave in

00:21:31.260 the American colonies.

00:21:33.100 Now, even the history of how slavery developed in the American colonies is a complex one.

00:21:38.300 It's not actually purely a racial thing, as the New York Times would have you believe.

00:21:42.800 But that's not, look, we're not even getting into the details here.

00:21:45.540 We're just talking about the fundamental premise.

00:21:47.780 The piece that won them the Pulitzers by Nicole Hannah-Jones.

00:21:50.660 It's called,

00:21:51.440 Our Democracy's Founding Ideals Were False When They Were Written.

00:21:55.360 Black Americans Have Fought to Make Them True. 1.00

00:21:58.620 And ironically, or perhaps not, the piece that they won their Pulitzer for is fundamentally

00:22:05.820 incorrect.

00:22:07.380 So it begins,

00:22:08.180 My dad always flew an American flag in our front yard.

00:22:10.840 Skip a little bit.

00:22:12.120 When I was young, that flag outside our home never made sense to me. 0.95

00:22:15.100 How could this black man, having seen firsthand the way his country abused black Americans,

00:22:19.320 how it refused to treat them as full citizens, proudly fly its banner? 0.96

00:22:22.440 I didn't understand his patriotism.

00:22:23.920 It deeply embarrassed me.

00:22:25.420 So at least she's admitting off the top that she hates her country, right?

00:22:29.420 Okay.

00:22:30.220 Got to get points for honesty.

00:22:32.400 Here we get to the false claim.

00:22:35.400 Conveniently left out of our founding mythology is the fact that one of the primary reasons the

00:22:40.920 colonists decided to declare their independence from Britain was because they wanted to protect

00:22:46.040 the institution of slavery.

00:22:50.260 That is not true.

00:22:51.740 There were many academic historians who wrote into the New York Times to say that that was

00:22:57.260 not true and the New York Times ignored them.

00:23:00.560 There is no evidence for that whatsoever.

00:23:02.660 There's a lot of evidence to the contrary.

00:23:03.980 For instance, in the Declaration of Independence, one of the chief complaints against the British,

00:23:09.240 one of the reasons for which they were declaring independence is because they blamed the British

00:23:13.860 for foisting slavery on them, slavery which they detested.

00:23:18.160 And then, of course, later on when they write the Constitution, the issue of slavery is a big

00:23:23.620 controversy because there were many people who were drafting that Constitution who wanted

00:23:28.960 to abolish slavery altogether.

00:23:30.840 There were many people who did not want slavery to give a reward to the South as a matter of

00:23:37.060 representation in Congress.

00:23:38.560 And so they had to arrive at a compromise and they had to sunset the importation of slaves,

00:23:44.580 which they did in the Constitution, and then ultimately the inevitable civil war came to end

00:23:49.880 slavery.

00:23:51.460 Nothing about this is true.

00:23:54.860 This was then roundly.

00:23:57.220 Oh, there's also another false claim in here, which is pretty funny.

00:23:59.880 Anyway, the woman who wrote it doesn't even know when the Declaration of Independence was signed.

00:24:04.160 So initially she wrote that it was signed on July 4th, but actually the signing began a couple

00:24:09.940 weeks later on August 2nd, or more than a couple weeks later on August 2nd.

00:24:15.880 So already you've got the Pulitzer Prize winning essay that has multiple corrections, right?

00:24:20.840 A correction, an editor's note, and yet the Pulitzer Committee still gave it to them. 0.75

00:24:25.160 Including supporters of the 1619 Project, you had lots of academic historians say that this was trash.

00:24:33.880 Northwestern University professor Leslie Harris writes of this.

00:24:37.900 On August 19th of last year, I listened in stunned silence as Nicole Hannah-Jones,

00:24:42.520 a reporter for the New York Times, repeated an idea that I had vigorously argued against

00:24:46.460 with her fact checker, that the patriots fought the American Revolution in large part

00:24:50.560 to preserve slavery in America.

00:24:51.840 I vigorously disputed the claim, although slavery was certainly an issue in the American Revolution,

00:24:57.160 the protection of slavery was not one of the main reasons the 13 colonies went to war.

00:25:02.740 So this historian and many other historians spoke to the Times about this, said,

00:25:07.540 guys, we support the project, we support making slavery a big focus when you're writing the history

00:25:13.300 of America, but just as a matter of history, this is not factually correct.

00:25:19.740 And they ignored her, which is a pattern for the New York Times.

00:25:23.480 You know, in 2018, the New York Times shared a Pulitzer Prize for its reporting on Russiagate,

00:25:30.040 which, as you might recall, is a complete hoax.

00:25:34.140 A complete hoax perpetrated by the left and the media, but I repeat myself,

00:25:38.660 and which is one of the reasons that President Trump can't be so nice with everybody all the time,

00:25:42.640 is because you've got the entire apparatus of modern liberalism trying to completely destroy this man.

00:25:50.760 Now they're trying to destroy American history as well.

00:25:54.320 And it's not just happening in the pages of the New York Times.

00:25:57.460 If it were, it wouldn't matter because very few people read the New York Times.

00:26:00.460 But the 1619 Project is now being taught in schools.

00:26:03.060 This anti-historical trash is being taught in schools as though it were history.

00:26:11.560 Over the disputations of academic historians who support the New York Times, who support the project, 0.92

00:26:20.940 but even they are honest enough, doesn't matter.

00:26:22.900 This will be taught in schools.

00:26:24.580 And as we were discussing yesterday on the show,

00:26:27.200 with regard to Phyllis Schlafly and the rewriting of history on the Equal Rights Amendment,

00:26:31.400 this is the kind of stuff that's going to be remembered.

00:26:34.920 The narrative is going to be remembered.

00:26:37.000 And the real history increasingly is going to be forgotten.

00:26:39.800 That's why they're rewriting it in the first place.

00:26:43.100 This is happening all around us.

00:26:45.440 It's not just these kind of broad questions of who was more persecuted, Trump or Lincoln, 0.96

00:26:51.140 kind of ridiculous questions.

00:26:52.560 It's not just rewriting the American Revolution. 0.89

00:26:55.500 It's happening in real time on coronavirus.

00:26:58.380 President Trump finds himself in a very difficult political position right now.

00:27:03.020 And we've at least got to shine a little bit of light on the hypocrisy.

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00:28:07.080 So we're not just rewriting the Trump presidential politics.

00:28:26.720 We're not just rewriting American history.

00:28:28.420 We're also rewriting this pandemic in real time.

00:28:32.740 So some bad news came from President Trump just a couple days ago, which is a revision up of the projected mortality.

00:28:41.260 You remember initially it was 2 million, there was half a million, there was 200,000, there was 100,000.

00:28:44.880 Then Dr. Fauci and President Trump said it would be about 60,000, possibly lower.

00:28:49.100 Now President Trump is revising those numbers up a little bit again.

00:28:53.580 We did the right thing.

00:28:54.520 I do look back on it because my attitude was we're not going to shut it down.

00:28:59.180 Look, we're going to lose anywhere from 75, 80 to 100,000 people.

00:29:04.960 That's a horrible thing.

00:29:05.900 We shouldn't lose one person over this.

00:29:07.780 Okay, 80, hold on, 80,000, that's higher than 60,000.

00:29:11.380 Now the media going berserk at President Trump.

00:29:13.940 How dare you?

00:29:14.700 The numbers are going up.

00:29:15.760 It was only supposed to be 60.

00:29:17.100 You've mishandled this.

00:29:18.480 It's all falling apart.

00:29:19.460 So President Trump is getting hammered because he took the estimate from 60, which is based

00:29:27.540 on the IHME model, goes from 60 up to 80, say, you know, numbers Fauci gave us.

00:29:36.040 He's getting hammered for that, but the left doesn't get hammered for bringing the numbers

00:29:40.600 down from 2.2 million to 80,000 or whatever it is now.

00:29:45.380 Now, President Trump fell into bad political positioning here because it always looks bad

00:29:50.600 to revise the numbers up and it always looks good to revise the numbers down.

00:29:56.620 And the media had every incentive, the left, the Democratic governors had every incentive

00:30:00.980 to scare the bejesus out of people and get everything locked down, right? 0.88

00:30:06.900 It makes them look good.

00:30:07.980 It makes them look like they're decisive leaders.

00:30:10.440 They then discouraged employment through that stimulus bill.

00:30:14.260 That was a key Democratic provision to keep the economy down. 0.96

00:30:17.600 And why do they want the economy down?

00:30:18.880 Because it's an election year and obviously that will help their side and hurt President

00:30:22.480 Trump.

00:30:22.960 They've even admitted this, you know, left-wing media figure Bill Maher came out and said

00:30:28.320 he'd rather have a recession than get Trump reelected.

00:30:30.560 That's why we need to have a recession, right?

00:30:32.200 So they haven't exactly been subtle about this.

00:30:34.860 That is what they're cheering for and that's what we're getting.

00:30:37.460 So Trump was already in that bad position.

00:30:39.040 And in President Trump's defense, they keep moving the goalposts on what this virus is,

00:30:44.700 on what qualifies as a death, on how it compares to other plagues.

00:30:49.500 But they don't get any attacks for getting the numbers so wrong in the first place.

00:30:55.880 The Intercept.

00:30:56.740 This was on March 17th.

00:30:58.100 2.2 million people in the U.S. could die if coronavirus goes unchecked.

00:31:02.800 It doesn't matter.

00:31:03.700 They could have said 2.2 billion people in the U.S.

00:31:06.720 You know, many, many, many times the U.S. population wouldn't have mattered.

00:31:10.300 They wouldn't, they wouldn't get called out for it.

00:31:11.720 New York Times.

00:31:12.520 You know those guys, those experts in American history.

00:31:15.380 Nicholas Kristof column, the best case outcome for the coronavirus and the worst.

00:31:19.860 Will we endure 2.2 million deaths or will we manage to turn things around?

00:31:24.660 Here's what he says.

00:31:25.280 Dr. Neil M. Ferguson, a British epidemiologist who is regarded as one of the best disease

00:31:31.840 modelers in the world, produced a sophisticated model with a worst case of 2.2 million deaths

00:31:36.740 in the United States.

00:31:37.920 I asked Ferguson for his best case, about 1.1 million deaths.

00:31:43.000 He said, when that's a best case scenario, it's difficult to feel optimistic.

00:31:49.140 1.1 million doesn't matter though.

00:31:50.960 So you have these hysterical, alarmist numbers, 1.1 million at best, 2.2 million at worst.

00:31:58.580 Shuts down the entire economy.

00:32:00.220 Will certainly lead to many deaths, ruined many lives.

00:32:03.540 I think it's upwards of 40% of small businesses might go out of business within six months.

00:32:08.620 No consequences for that.

00:32:10.660 But President Trump touts a number from Dr. Fauci, 60,000.

00:32:16.000 It gets revised up by 20,000.

00:32:17.760 He gets dragged for it.

00:32:18.920 And the goalposts continue to move.

00:32:22.520 Another place we've seen this is with flu deaths, right?

00:32:24.700 And early on, when we were looking at this virus, people said, okay, well, how does this

00:32:29.280 compare to other diseases, other viruses?

00:32:32.460 Makes perfect sense.

00:32:34.080 One of the comparisons was to the flu.

00:32:35.920 And we said, okay, well, you know, upwards of 50, 60, 70,000 people can die from a bad flu

00:32:40.820 year.

00:32:41.100 So if the projections we're getting for deaths from coronavirus are 50, 60,000, 70,000, then

00:32:46.660 yeah, it seems about right.

00:32:48.800 I guess we can make that comparison, right?

00:32:50.880 And then the left told us, no, you can't compare it to the flu because that would counter the

00:32:54.460 hysterical, alarmist narrative.

00:32:55.920 So this has gone on for about five, six weeks now.

00:32:59.600 And the left has had it with the flu comparison.

00:33:02.520 So now they're touting a Dr. Jeremy Samuel Faust, emergency medical physician and instructor

00:33:07.460 at Harvard Medical School, who published a blog post on Scientific American saying that

00:33:11.980 actually the numbers we have for the flu deaths are not really the numbers for the flu deaths.

00:33:15.240 So the preliminary estimate for flu deaths in the 2017, 2018 season is around 61,000.

00:33:21.080 So certainly within the ballpark of coronavirus.

00:33:24.060 But the total number of confirmed flu deaths is actually much lower, he says.

00:33:28.520 He says it's 15,620.

00:33:32.620 I don't know.

00:33:33.700 I'm not an expert on these things.

00:33:35.140 None of us is.

00:33:36.500 We've been relying on the numbers that the scientific community has been giving us, which is 60,

00:33:41.480 70,000.

00:33:42.320 Now all of a sudden we're being told, no, actually 60,000 is 15,000.

00:33:45.900 So the number you've got to compare coronavirus to is 15,000.

00:33:49.020 That's why coronavirus is so much worse.

00:33:50.740 Which is it?

00:33:51.300 I can't keep up.

00:33:52.340 If we're told we have to listen to the experts, then the experts have to give us reliable information.

00:33:57.240 So if the experts are going to keep moving the goalposts, then we can't rely on them at all.

00:34:01.920 Then it seems more and more to many Americans who are clamoring to reopen, like this is a rigged game.

00:34:09.380 There is no political cost.

00:34:11.060 I mean, even on this case, the flu deaths, no cost to lowering the estimates.

00:34:16.160 And yet there is a great political cost to increasing the estimates.

00:34:22.660 The new numbers here do not tell us anything, right?

00:34:26.840 The new numbers on not just the flu, but on coronavirus, ticking it up from 60,000 to 80,000, doesn't tell us anything.

00:34:33.660 Doesn't change our behavior at all.

00:34:36.080 I wish that it could change our behavior, but it doesn't.

00:34:39.180 It's just a one-way political attack on Trump, and it can never be used in the other direction.

00:34:46.240 Why does it not change our behavior?

00:34:47.820 Well, because the only policy that they've come up with is the lockdowns, right?

00:34:53.180 Social distancing, wear the mask everywhere, shut down the businesses.

00:34:55.960 The only two things that the lockdowns can possibly accomplish are flatten the curve and prevent the hospital system from being overwhelmed,

00:35:05.800 and flatten the curve and buy us time until we get a vaccine.

00:35:10.140 It doesn't mean stop the virus.

00:35:12.060 It means flatten that curve and spread it out.

00:35:14.000 We know that the hospital systems have not been overwhelmed, certainly not here in California, not even in New York.

00:35:20.220 Javits Center Hospital was completely empty.

00:35:21.860 That hospital ship, the USNS Comfort, very empty.

00:35:26.220 We know that we're not going to get a virus anytime soon as this disease, this virus,

00:35:32.940 or we're not going to get a vaccine, rather, anytime soon as this virus spreads throughout the population.

00:35:37.280 So what does the extra 20,000 deaths tell us?

00:35:42.160 It doesn't tell us anything about our own behavior, just kind of some sad news,

00:35:46.480 and politically it's a way to attack Trump. 0.89

00:35:48.620 The key element to this pandemic is hypocrisy, okay? 0.93

00:35:51.680 No mistake by the left is too great.

00:35:53.740 No mistake by the right is too small.

00:35:56.040 Any miscalculation by the right is evidence that the right got it totally wrong.

00:36:00.680 Any miscalculation by the left, whoopsie-daisy, never mind, throw it down the memory hole.

00:36:04.660 What do you mean 2.2 million deaths?

00:36:06.500 No, that doesn't ring a bell to me.

00:36:08.940 You see this most clearly with Andy Cuomo.

00:36:10.960 Andy Cuomo, governor of New York, being hailed as the great leader in the coronavirus.

00:36:16.820 What a strong, articulate, wonderful, prepared leader.

00:36:21.040 So much better than Trump.

00:36:23.140 Democrats should nominate Cuomo in 2020.

00:36:25.560 He could go head-to-head with Trump.

00:36:28.980 Cuomo has failed.

00:36:30.860 He's done a terrible job.

00:36:32.560 Only in the Democratic Party could you be the head of the worst prepared state,

00:36:39.780 the hardest hit state for this pandemic,

00:36:41.900 and have that taken as an example of some great success.

00:36:46.780 Here's just one little policy to show it to you.

00:36:49.900 On Thursday, Andy Cuomo announced that they're going to start cleaning the subways.

00:36:54.580 You know, the subways in New York are absolutely filthy.

00:36:56.840 They run all the time.

00:36:58.840 And so now they're going to, for a couple hours a night,

00:37:01.920 they're going to start deep cleaning the subways.

00:37:06.320 And this is important because they've reduced the number of trains,

00:37:08.900 so already you're cramming more people onto the subways.

00:37:11.100 Already the subways are moving homeless shelters and have been for many years.

00:37:15.340 So now they're going to start cleaning them.

00:37:19.140 Two months into this pandemic,

00:37:21.160 now they're going to start cleaning the subways?

00:37:23.740 Why didn't you do that two months ago?

00:37:25.440 You great leader.

00:37:27.060 You brilliant visionary who's so prepared.

00:37:30.000 Cuomo says any essential worker who shows up and gets on a train

00:37:33.580 should know that that train was disinfected the night before

00:37:36.200 because a lot of transit workers are getting sick

00:37:39.640 and they don't want to come into work.

00:37:41.100 It's realistic.

00:37:42.160 It's an essential.

00:37:43.440 How realistic is it?

00:37:44.440 What's the alternative?

00:37:45.580 Yeah, it is essential.

00:37:46.740 It is realistic.

00:37:47.360 Why didn't you do it two months ago?

00:37:49.200 Doesn't matter.

00:37:50.280 Doesn't matter.

00:37:50.820 Cuomo's not going to get called out on it.

00:37:52.340 Another aspect of the hypocrisy on this whole pandemic,

00:37:55.880 and this is probably my favorite one,

00:37:57.580 is the my body, my choice argument.

00:37:59.760 You know, the left has told us for 50, 60 years now,

00:38:03.260 my body, my choice.

00:38:04.420 You have no right to tell me what to do with my body.

00:38:06.880 This is the argument they use to defend abortion.

00:38:09.920 Now, some conservatives are saying with regard to our imprisonment in our apartments

00:38:13.940 and the lockdown and the arbitrary exercise of power,

00:38:16.500 we say, wait a second, what about my body, my choice?

00:38:18.620 I'm going to go to the beach because it's my body, my choice.

00:38:20.900 And the left responds and says,

00:38:23.140 that's not just your body.

00:38:26.120 Because when you go out during a pandemic,

00:38:27.960 you're endangering everybody else's body.

00:38:30.080 But of course, that plays to the very same point that the conservatives are making

00:38:34.260 when it comes to abortion, where we say, right, it's not just your body either.

00:38:37.340 It's the body inside of you that you're killing. 0.99

00:38:41.300 The left refuses to recognize this hypocrisy. 0.98

00:38:46.160 And by the way, it's not hypocritical for the right to use,

00:38:48.780 first of all, we're using this argument a little tongue in cheek

00:38:50.780 against the left to prove a point.

00:38:52.780 But they're actually separate questions of imperiling other people's lives.

00:38:57.420 Because when you go out during a pandemic,

00:38:59.980 you are calculating certain amounts of risk, right?

00:39:04.120 So you're not just walking up to people and coughing right in their face

00:39:07.360 and like licking their cheek, are you? 0.60

00:39:08.880 No, you're going out, you're being cautious,

00:39:11.140 you're staying mostly away from people, you're washing your hands.

00:39:13.300 And there is some risk, obviously, that diseases could spread.

00:39:16.680 There is always a risk that diseases could spread,

00:39:19.140 as happens every single day, even in normal times.

00:39:22.200 But there's a risk of natural death.

00:39:23.740 When you are sanctioning abortion, 0.62

00:39:26.960 you are not calculating a risk of someone dying of a natural death.

00:39:30.560 You are permitting murder.

00:39:32.960 You're permitting the targeted killing of an innocent person.

00:39:35.920 Those are categorically different things.

00:39:37.880 All of those distinctions are lost on the left,

00:39:39.700 even the broader hypocrisy is as well.

00:39:43.340 The reason for this is that the left is not playing by some nice set of rules,

00:39:49.360 that this is not a fair game, okay?

00:39:52.200 This is not a neutral playing ground

00:39:54.420 where we're all just kind of having a debate

00:39:56.860 and we'll see which ideas win.

00:39:58.900 And, you know, we've just,

00:40:00.020 the right needs to play by the Marquess of Queensbury rules

00:40:02.600 and everything will get along fine.

00:40:04.520 No.

00:40:05.740 A key political truth that we are being reminded of,

00:40:08.980 and an unfortunate political truth, perhaps,

00:40:11.140 but a truth nonetheless,

00:40:12.200 is that politics, in practice,

00:40:14.700 is not primarily about principles.

00:40:17.540 It's about winning.

00:40:19.540 And that is what the left is in to do.

00:40:22.060 Joe Biden,

00:40:23.680 in a rare moment of lucidity,

00:40:25.820 admitted this just the other day,

00:40:28.600 when he was talking about the coronavirus

00:40:30.680 and the response to the coronavirus,

00:40:34.020 he said,

00:40:35.220 the quiet part out loud,

00:40:36.680 he said that this is a wonderful opportunity

00:40:39.440 to exploit this coronavirus

00:40:43.020 and fundamentally transform America.

00:40:45.940 And I truly think

00:40:47.640 that if we do this right,

00:40:50.040 we have an incredible opportunity

00:40:51.920 to not just dig out of this crisis,

00:40:54.520 but to fundamentally transform the country.

00:40:57.420 Fundamentally transform the country.

00:40:58.800 If that phrase rings a bell to you,

00:41:00.460 it's because that's the phrase

00:41:01.620 that was used by Barack Obama.

00:41:03.980 He said,

00:41:04.380 we're about to fundamentally transform this country.

00:41:07.420 It's part of the reason why we suggested

00:41:08.900 maybe Obama doesn't love his country so much

00:41:10.640 is because you don't want to fundamentally transform

00:41:12.800 things that you love.

00:41:14.540 When I put my head on my pillow at night,

00:41:16.660 lying next to sweet little Elisa,

00:41:17.980 I don't say,

00:41:18.420 okay, good night,

00:41:18.960 good night, honey.

00:41:20.300 I'll see you in the morning

00:41:21.300 and, you know,

00:41:22.060 then I'll just get back

00:41:23.160 to fundamentally transforming you.

00:41:25.800 I love you so much.

00:41:27.120 I love you so much.

00:41:27.940 I want to fundamentally transform you.

00:41:29.200 I want you to be

00:41:29.740 completely unrecognizable to me

00:41:31.640 by the time I'm done with you.

00:41:33.360 That's how much I love you.

00:41:34.400 No, you don't.

00:41:35.340 But the left doesn't love this country.

00:41:37.320 They don't.

00:41:38.340 That's why they're trying

00:41:39.240 to rewrite the whole history of this country 0.96

00:41:42.420 and say that America was evil and rotten

00:41:45.100 from the very start

00:41:46.160 and the whole reason that this country exists 0.98

00:41:48.660 was so that a bunch of evil bigots 0.95

00:41:51.340 could defend chattel slavery 0.96

00:41:52.840 and they get Pulitzer Prizes

00:41:54.520 for writing that in the New York Times

00:41:56.060 and they get applauded by the left

00:41:58.660 for saying they're going to fundamentally transform America.

00:42:03.300 That's what this is about.

00:42:04.780 This is about winning, okay,

00:42:07.840 and you can either allow the left to win

00:42:11.400 and say, okay, you're right.

00:42:13.640 You got it.

00:42:14.280 I'll play by your rules.

00:42:15.940 I'll play my role

00:42:17.140 as the kind of curmudgeonly conservative

00:42:19.460 who, you know, pushes back a little bit

00:42:22.620 to give legitimacy to your ideology

00:42:25.080 and to your regime.

00:42:26.180 But ultimately,

00:42:27.280 I'm going to suspend my presidential campaign.

00:42:29.700 Ultimately, I'm going to pull back.

00:42:30.820 I'm going to let you win

00:42:31.640 and then the system will move on.

00:42:33.220 That's one type of conservative.

00:42:35.140 Okay, you can be that kind of conservative

00:42:36.780 if you want or you can be

00:42:38.000 the kind of conservative that wins.

00:42:40.780 And that's not always going to be nice

00:42:43.480 and you're not always going to get invited

00:42:44.620 to the nicest parties

00:42:45.520 and maybe your grades are going to get hurt

00:42:47.340 if you speak out too much at university

00:42:48.920 and maybe you're not going to get

00:42:50.600 that promotion you wanted

00:42:51.640 if you speak up around the water cooler

00:42:53.520 at your job.

00:42:54.840 But at least you will

00:42:56.740 be accomplishing something.

00:42:59.340 At least you will be fighting for something.

00:43:01.100 At least you will believe in something 0.79

00:43:02.480 rather than playing some clown role, 0.72

00:43:04.740 some court jester role 0.94

00:43:05.960 in an ideology that you pretend to despise.

00:43:10.920 Listen, you know, before we go,

00:43:12.480 I saw this clip on CNN.

00:43:14.940 It was Don Lemon,

00:43:15.800 one of my favorite people on CNN.

00:43:17.820 There are too many to count,

00:43:19.080 but he's one of them.

00:43:20.500 And Don Lemon has, you know,

00:43:23.700 let the mask fall a little bit

00:43:25.400 in recent years.

00:43:27.360 Initially, he was a little more

00:43:28.840 of this serious newsman

00:43:30.740 who was objective

00:43:31.460 and increasingly in recent years,

00:43:34.660 he's just let that fall

00:43:35.960 and he's shown how much he despises

00:43:38.260 not just conservatives,

00:43:40.940 but this president in particular.

00:43:43.060 He wants to fundamentally transform

00:43:44.720 the country just like Joe Biden.

00:43:46.700 Listen to this nasty monologue he gives

00:43:48.960 about how much he hates Donald Trump.

00:43:51.360 What is it about President Obama

00:43:52.920 that really gets under your skin?

00:43:56.180 Is it because he's smarter than you?

00:44:02.500 Better educated?

00:44:07.040 Made it on his own?

00:44:08.560 Didn't need daddy's help?

00:44:12.660 Wife is more accomplished? 1.00

00:44:16.460 Better looking?

00:44:17.660 I don't know.

00:44:18.120 What is it?

00:44:19.000 What is it about him? 0.89

00:44:20.940 That he's a black man

00:44:21.880 that's accomplished?

00:44:23.140 Became president?

00:44:23.780 That he punked you

00:44:27.300 on the whole birth certificate thing?

00:44:29.840 What is it about him?

00:44:33.980 Just wondering.

00:44:35.540 You think that's kumbaya?

00:44:37.540 You think Don Lemon,

00:44:39.120 when he accuses President Trump 1.00

00:44:40.660 of being a dumb idiot racist 1.00

00:44:43.140 who's married to this awful woman 1.00

00:44:46.460 who's also dumb and an idiot 1.00

00:44:48.460 and unaccomplished 1.00

00:44:49.420 and, you know,

00:44:50.020 he doesn't like his wife 0.53

00:44:51.300 and all this,

00:44:51.900 do you think he's just talking

00:44:54.680 about Trump

00:44:55.160 or do you think he's also talking

00:44:56.580 to Trump supporters?

00:44:58.320 It seems to me

00:44:59.060 when the left goes after Trump,

00:45:01.300 they're also going after

00:45:02.220 the Trump supporters.

00:45:03.040 Hillary Clinton made this clear, right? 0.99

00:45:04.640 Trump supporters are deplorable 0.99

00:45:05.880 and irredeemable. 1.00

00:45:06.920 Can't be civil

00:45:07.640 with these kind of people.

00:45:08.760 That's what she said.

00:45:11.040 That's not kumbaya.

00:45:12.660 That's not okay.

00:45:13.780 Let's all just get along.

00:45:15.240 I wish we could all get along.

00:45:16.520 I wish we could all be nice.

00:45:18.200 I wish that Donald Trump

00:45:19.980 didn't have to be mean

00:45:20.700 to Jim Acosta, okay?

00:45:21.880 I wish that we could have

00:45:23.260 a more elevated politics,

00:45:25.220 a wittier politics.

00:45:27.800 I wish we lived

00:45:28.700 in a more graceful

00:45:29.560 and elegant time.

00:45:31.760 We don't.

00:45:32.880 The left doesn't let us

00:45:33.860 live in that time

00:45:34.580 because when you push them

00:45:35.760 even just a little bit,

00:45:37.180 that's what you get.

00:45:38.860 That kind of attitude,

00:45:40.940 that kind of talk

00:45:41.680 from Don Lemon.

00:45:43.680 The New York Times

00:45:44.540 rewriting your history

00:45:45.580 and saying the whole country

00:45:46.660 is rotten to the core

00:45:47.680 and we got to rip it all down.

00:45:48.820 That's what you get

00:45:50.400 when you push them.

00:45:51.500 Those are the stakes.

00:45:54.020 So,

00:45:54.660 how are you going to push back?

00:45:56.180 Are you going to play nice

00:45:56.960 and pretend

00:45:57.400 that it's all just

00:45:58.700 fun and games

00:45:59.980 and it doesn't really matter

00:46:01.660 if you win?

00:46:02.500 Or,

00:46:03.020 are you going to recognize

00:46:03.920 that there really are stakes here

00:46:05.440 and there really are things

00:46:06.640 worth defending

00:46:07.320 and we really do love

00:46:08.420 our country

00:46:08.880 and we really do love

00:46:10.080 our countrymen,

00:46:10.840 all of our countrymen,

00:46:11.620 even Don Lemon.

00:46:12.340 That's why we want to

00:46:13.120 preserve a good country

00:46:14.100 even for him,

00:46:15.320 even for Hillary Clinton,

00:46:16.340 even for Joe Biden

00:46:17.540 and sometimes

00:46:19.240 you got to be tough

00:46:19.980 to do it.

00:46:20.700 Sometimes it's more important

00:46:21.820 to be successful

00:46:23.000 than to be liked.

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The Michael Knowles Show - May 05, 2020

Ep. 540 - Court Jester Conservatism

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