The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 566 - Brazen Lying Marxists

00:00:00.000 Our national collapse continues as more statues come tumbling down. It's very difficult to keep

00:00:07.100 track of all the statues that have come down. You remember initially it was just Confederate

00:00:12.500 monuments. Then it was Robert E. Lee, who's got kind of a more special place. Then very quickly,

00:00:17.920 it was Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Christopher Columbus. Well, we've got even

00:00:20.700 more statues coming down over the weekend. A quick rundown. First, Ulysses S. Grant.

00:00:25.740 This one, maybe you were not expecting. Ulysses S. Grant is of course the union general who freed

00:00:34.040 all of the slaves. So you'd think that in the name of Black Lives Matter, probably wouldn't make sense 0.63

00:00:39.200 to tear down his statue, but that's exactly what they did in San Francisco. Next one up

00:00:44.420 is Francis Scott Key. Francis Scott Key wrote the national anthem. I guess no surprise there because

00:00:50.900 we know leftists hate the national anthem. They've been protesting the national anthem for a very long

00:00:55.500 time now, though it is a little bit ironic that they took down Francis Scott Key. Part of the reason

00:00:59.980 they did is there's a line in one of the verses of the national anthem that talks about slaves. So

00:01:05.420 the line is no refuge could save the hireling and slave from the terror of flight or the gloom of the

00:01:11.680 grave. And there's, there's actually some debate over what this line even means, but of course,

00:01:18.060 leftists are not looking for context on that at all. So the, the word slave there might actually refer

00:01:23.580 to the British policy of impressment of enslaving people. But again, all nuance is gone. The other

00:01:29.440 thing about Francis Scott Key is though he owned slaves for a period of his life, he also publicly

00:01:34.120 criticized slavery. He gave free legal representation to slaves that were seeking freedom, but his statue

00:01:41.120 had to come down anyway. And then I think that the most ridiculous one, this was the third one over the 0.86

00:01:45.140 weekend. St. Junipero Serra. They are now pulling down actual honest to goodness, honest to God saints. 0.91

00:01:55.300 St. Junipero Serra was a missionary, came to the new world in 1749. He was canonized in 2015 by Pope

00:02:01.820 Francis. There's a statue of him in the U S Capitol. And believe it or not, Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden

00:02:07.140 actually paid their respects to that statue. Not so long ago. That was then. This is now they're going to

00:02:12.960 tear down every single statue. And then guess what? Once all the statues are down, they're coming for

00:02:19.260 you. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles show. Welcome back to the Michael Knowles

00:02:31.320 show. President Trump talked about all this statue toppling at his first speech since the lockdown,

00:02:36.380 which we will get to because this weekend more than any showed the real aim of these protests

00:02:43.800 and riots. And it's a lot worse than anybody thought. And they're not just going to stop at

00:02:48.460 statues. So president Trump talked about all of this, all of the pulling down of statues,

00:02:54.180 a lot of normal people, most normal people oppose this kind of stuff. You'll notice when you look at

00:03:00.700 who was pulling down the statues, it's a lot of people clad in black. They look like they're part of

00:03:04.520 far left organizations, either BLM, which we'll get to in one second or Antifa or other various

00:03:11.260 anarchist and communist groups. I don't think they speak for most people. Actually, Muhammad Ali Jr.,

00:03:16.500 son of the famous boxer and a civil rights advocate and social activist, he came out and

00:03:24.660 strongly opposed all the statue toppling and the riots and the looting and the protests. He said,

00:03:29.920 don't, he used colorful language, which I'll have to clean up a little bit. He goes,

00:03:33.300 don't bust up stuff. Don't trash the place. You can peacefully protest. My father would have said

00:03:39.540 they ain't nothing but devils. My father said all lives matter. I don't think he'd agree with the

00:03:44.880 BLM movement. Actually, Muhammad Ali Jr. said that he thought the BLM movement was racist. And then he

00:03:51.720 went on to defend cops. He said, police don't wake up and think I'm going to kill an N word today or kill 0.92

00:03:58.780 a white man. They're just trying to make it back home to their family in one piece. 0.98

00:04:03.420 Obviously correct. Muhammad Ali Jr. I have been telling you this for many weeks now that the Black 0.99

00:04:09.420 Lives Matter organization is a very, very bad organization. It is not what it purports to be.

00:04:15.060 It is a radical leftist, anti-American, no good, very bad organization, and nobody should have anything

00:04:20.260 to do with it. And as a result of saying that, I and others have been called racist, bigoted, terrible,

00:04:28.720 dishonest. Okay. Well, over the weekend, the founders of the Black Lives Matter movement 1.00

00:04:35.660 actually admitted that my take on it is correct. Okay. There was, I don't think they admitted it over

00:04:43.380 the weekend, but the video finally came out over the weekend. Patrice Cullor was caught on video

00:04:49.700 admitting that the BLM organization isn't about Black Lives Mattering, that she is a trained organizer 0.74

00:04:57.100 and she is a trained Marxist. I also think that it might, um, I think of a lot of things. The first

00:05:06.660 thing I think is that we actually do have an ideological frame. Um, myself and Alicia in particular,

00:05:12.400 are trained organizers. Um, we, uh, are trained Marxists. Um, we are, uh, super, uh, versed, um,

00:05:26.440 on sort of ideological theories. And I think that what we really try to do is build a movement that

00:05:32.580 could be utilized by many, many Black folk. When someone tells you that he or she is a Marxist,

00:05:40.940 believe them. Okay. You hear a lot of people ranting and raving about conspiracy theories and

00:05:49.440 tinfoil hats. And there are many people who rant and rave about Marxism. This woman is admitting it. 1.00

00:05:58.320 You don't need to feel bad about yourself. If you posted the black square, you don't need to feel 0.59

00:06:04.000 bad about yourself. If you posted the hashtag black lives matter, thinking that black lives matter is 1.00

00:06:08.900 about black lives mattering, but we now know it isn't. We now have the founders of BLM admitting 0.99

00:06:15.060 on video in their own words, that this is a Marxist front. Marxists have duped plenty of nice people in

00:06:23.460 history. Marxists have lied to many of nice people throughout history. Fool me once, shame on you.

00:06:32.000 Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. I'm remembering the George W. Bush version

00:06:39.380 of this, which is fool me twice. The point is you're not going to fool me again. That should be the

00:06:42.960 point. If they fool you the first time and you post the black square, that's on them. But if you 0.98

00:06:50.120 continue to give your support to the BLM organization, which is openly and avowedly Marxist,

00:07:00.120 radically ideological, radically anti-American, that's on you. Stop doing it. Stop posting the

00:07:08.780 hashtag. Stop posting the black square. That's not what this is about. And this battle is playing out,

00:07:13.980 not just in the United States. It's playing out all around the world because over the weekend,

00:07:18.860 you had the United Nations, which we fund for some reason, openly embracing another radical leftist

00:07:25.740 organization, another communist slash anarchist organization, Antifa. We'll get to that in one

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00:08:48.160 Ancestry.com slash Knowles, K-N-W-L-E-S. The United Nations is now pro-Antifa. How much more evidence do we

00:08:59.600 need before we finally defund the United Nations? This should be it. You've got BLM admitting that 0.76

00:09:06.400 they're Marxist. How much more evidence do you need before you pull your support from BLM? Same

00:09:10.320 thing here with Antifa. They tweet, quote, UN hashtag human rights experts express profound concern over

00:09:17.080 a recent statement by the U.S. Attorney General describing Antifa and other anti-fascist activities

00:09:22.020 as domestic terrorists, saying it undermines the rights to freedom of expression and of peaceful

00:09:28.060 assembly in the country. See how they're conflating Antifa with anti-fascists. Now, Antifa is a communist

00:09:39.140 anarchist terror group. Anti-fascist just means you oppose fascism. Let's take that example all the way

00:09:46.700 back to when fascism had any sort of meaning, which is back in World War II with Mussolini and sort of

00:09:53.980 with Hitler, though national socialism is sort of a different thing. But lump them both together, 0.72

00:09:58.340 fine. That was the last time the word fascism really meant anything. George Orwell wrote an

00:10:02.840 essay about this after the Second World War, the word fascism lost all of its meaning. But in that war,

00:10:08.720 you see a lot of leftists these days talking about the allied troops as the original anti-fascists.

00:10:14.500 Remember, there were two kinds of anti-fascists in World War II. There were the Americans and the

00:10:20.060 British, our guys, good guys, and there were Stalin's communists, both anti-fascists. When you're just 0.86

00:10:31.580 opposed to something, that leaves it wide open to interpretation as to what side you are actually on.

00:10:38.380 Some anti-fascists are good, right? If you're an American soldier in World War II, that makes you, 0.79

00:10:44.560 that's a good guy. But if you're Stalin, just because you opposed Hitler at a certain point

00:10:52.060 doesn't make you a good guy. Doesn't mean that I want to ally with Stalin, okay? And yet the United

00:10:58.060 Nations conflates the two. We need to defund the United Nations. We pay 22% of the UN budget to invite

00:11:04.740 the worst people on earth to sit on a human rights council. Some of the worst, most despotic regimes in

00:11:11.020 history sit on a human rights council. Then they fly to New York to the seat of the United Nations

00:11:15.980 and criticize the United States. And we, like masochists, pay the bill. We say, thank you.

00:11:21.480 Thank you, Venezuela. May I have another? Thank you, North Korea. North Korea. Thank you, Cuba. May I have

00:11:27.000 another? Thank you, Iran. May I have another? Why are we doing that? The UN is situated on beautiful

00:11:35.660 waterfront property. We could knock down that building. We could bring in some nice bulldozers. 0.98

00:11:41.320 We could create beautiful Trump condominiums and we would save a lot of money every single year.

00:11:45.920 Now's the time to do that. We are in a battle that has become ideological. It's not just in the U.S.

00:11:54.440 It's international, but it's the same issues. What are we fighting for? Why are we,

00:12:02.000 why are we paying people and tolerating people, destroying our nation, our history, our culture? 0.99

00:12:10.160 Some conservatives, some conservatives go squishy on this. They say it's a good idea to take down the

00:12:16.720 statues. Take down the statues, put them in a museum. I say we take down rioters and put them in prison.

00:12:22.480 But some conservatives want to go along with the leftist mob, take down the statues and put them in

00:12:28.300 a museum. Very misguided. First of all, they won't stay in museums. You think you're going to take it

00:12:33.680 down from some public square and put it in a museum and then go get to look at it. No, they're coming

00:12:38.480 down from museums too. The American Museum of Natural History in New York just took down a statue

00:12:44.340 of Teddy Roosevelt. Why? What was so terrible about Teddy Roosevelt? Nobody can, nobody can tell except

00:12:51.440 that this statue of Teddy Roosevelt had a black man and an Indian in it and they didn't like that for

00:12:56.140 some reason. Too much integration, I guess. So they're taking down the statue. None of the statues

00:13:01.420 that are going to museums are going to remain there for very long. There's no limiting principle

00:13:06.420 to tearing down the statues, to tearing down some statues, but not other statues of our history.

00:13:14.220 And where the rubber meets the road, I notice for a lot of conservatives is Robert E. Lee.

00:13:18.640 Many conservatives who want to prove that they're not racist, prove to leftist mobs who don't care

00:13:27.500 if you're not racist and to whom we don't owe any sort of explanation whatsoever.

00:13:33.460 What those conservatives do is they say, okay, we'll keep up Lincoln and Jefferson. They're really

00:13:37.180 good guys and Washington and even Christopher Columbus, but we'll tear down Robert E. Lee because 0.92

00:13:41.980 Robert E. Lee is a traitor. This totally misunderstands the civil war,

00:13:50.000 our nation broadly, and how we look at our history. If you want to tear down that Robert E. Lee statue,

00:13:57.660 you find yourself exactly at odds with Abraham Lincoln's vision for what happens after the

00:14:03.380 second world war, after the second world war, after the civil war. We'll get to that in one second.

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00:15:28.580 Lee statue. You say conservatives are traitors. Robert E. Lee was a traitor. First of all,

00:15:36.420 Robert E. Lee was a great American general who only returned to Virginia when war broke out because he

00:15:43.360 was loyal to the Commonwealth of Virginia as a federalist, right? You have more local loyalties

00:15:49.840 before the national loyalty in an, in an issue like that. But then he was instrumental in bringing

00:15:55.560 about an end of the war. And Abraham Lincoln made an excellent point on how the war should end.

00:16:00.700 He said, with malice toward none, with charity for all, we will finish up this conflict.

00:16:11.060 That was good enough for the men who fought and won the civil war. That was good enough for the men

00:16:19.560 who lost their brothers in arms in the civil war. That was good enough for the families who lost loved

00:16:25.140 ones in the civil war. But it's not good enough for modern leftists. Robert E. Lee had his

00:16:30.900 citizenship reinstated. It's good enough for people who came before us, not good enough 0.95

00:16:36.740 for modern leftists. When there is a civil war, often that's the, that spells the end of a nation.

00:16:44.600 But the nation did come back together. That was not easy. It took a lot of healing. It took a lot

00:16:50.300 of compassion for our fellow citizens, rebuilding love of our fellow citizens.

00:16:56.940 We succeeded at that. And now 150 years later, more than 150 years later, people are trying to

00:17:03.860 tear that apart again, totally undoing all the good that Lincoln and those who came after him did.

00:17:11.240 The other reason why we can't tear down Robert E. Lee or why we shouldn't tear down Robert E. Lee

00:17:17.320 is that the argument for tearing down Lee is an argument for tearing down everybody.

00:17:25.440 Robert E. Lee is an American citizen, so I don't think the traitor line works. Really what you're

00:17:29.160 saying, he's a traitor, he's a racist, he's a bigot. You apply it to Jefferson and Washington. 0.99

00:17:33.680 Really what people are saying is this man had flaws. This man committed sins. This man was not

00:17:39.260 perfect. The, the statue of the perfect man who has lived any time in the last 2000 years or so

00:17:49.700 would be an empty statue. It would just be a platform. If that's your argument for tearing

00:17:55.620 down Lee, then you have to tear down all of the statues too. And not just tear down the statues,

00:18:00.020 you have to rename the institutions. Over the weekend, hashtag cancel Yale was trending nationwide.

00:18:05.920 What did Yale do? Yale has done many things in history, but one thing it did was push forward

00:18:14.820 this progressive idea that we've got to rename things, tear down statues. Yale renamed Calhoun

00:18:21.040 College just a few years ago because it was named after a guy who defended slavery and you can't have 0.94

00:18:27.060 that. So all these years later, we have to rename Calhoun College. At the time, Roger Kimball wrote an

00:18:33.280 essay where he pointed out that if you rename Calhoun College, you got to rename Yale because

00:18:37.340 Calhoun might've defended slavery, but Eli Yale was a slave trader, the man who Yale is named after.

00:18:42.440 So you got to rename Yale. Jesse Kelly, the conservative commentator talked about this over

00:18:46.680 the weekend. Ann Coulter has been talking about this for a while and it's very ironic. It's a little

00:18:51.920 bit chickens coming home to roost because Yale in recent years more or less kicked off the cancel

00:18:57.400 culture. Perhaps you remember shrieking girl, that Yale undergraduate who met her professor,

00:19:03.020 who was the head of the college that she was in and started shrieking at him because his wife had 1.00

00:19:10.660 the audacity to suggest that Yale students were able to choose their own Halloween costumes. He was

00:19:16.400 defending a principle of free speech and maturity and adulthood. She didn't like that. So she went on

00:19:22.040 a vulgar rant shrieking about how he should lose his job.

00:19:25.660 Be quiet. It is your job to create a place of comfort and home for the students that live in

00:19:31.740 Silliman. By sending out that email, that goes against your position as master. Do you understand

00:19:36.800 that? No, I don't agree with that. Then why the did you accept the position? I have a different vision than you. You should step down. If that is what you think about being a master, you should step down.

00:19:47.040 It is not about creating an intellectual fee. It's about creating a home here. You are not doing that. You are disgusting.

00:19:55.440 That's the future. That's the future president shrieking girl, future senator shrieking undergraduate. 1.00

00:20:05.200 Guess what Yale did? They didn't support the professors. Professors ended up leaving Yale. I think now they've come back, but they ended up leaving. They did step down. The students won.

00:20:14.700 Many of the students involved in that altercation won awards for social justice at graduation. What happened to Yale?

00:20:23.540 That's what many of us were asking ourselves. What happened to this place that they allowed this to happen?

00:20:30.200 Then it occurred to me. Yale was founded as a seminary and it still is one. Yale was founded as a place to train

00:20:40.220 priests and priests and preachers. And it still does that. All of the elite universities were founded as

00:20:47.080 seminaries and they are seminaries to this day. The difference is that initially they were seminaries

00:20:53.020 of Christianity. Today they are seminaries of liberalism, of wokeism, of leftism. Call it what you want.

00:21:01.560 They still train their students, indoctrinate their students with the same exact religious zeal that they had

00:21:08.880 when they were founded. But the religion has changed a little bit. Whereas we began with Christianity,

00:21:17.000 now we are at liberalism. And of course, if you're going to train students in that new woke religion,

00:21:23.540 then you're going to get zealots like that girl shrieking at her professor. And you are going to get

00:21:28.060 zealots renaming everything. Utter revolution. The sad thing about all these elite institutions,

00:21:36.960 don't forget universities going back to the middle ages, the earliest universities were outgrowths of

00:21:43.500 the Catholic church. They were places to train monks and priests, people in the faith. And now there's

00:21:50.860 a new faith. In Christianity though, you have redemption because you recognize man's fallen nature

00:21:57.020 and then you recognize your need of a redeemer. And then you recognize that a redeemer actually

00:22:01.340 came and redeemed mankind on the cross and rose from the dead. In leftism, there's no redemption.

00:22:10.320 In the religion of liberalism, there is an inversion of Christianity. You are told that you're perfect just

00:22:20.240 the way you are. And if you're not perfect, you can become perfect through your own actions,

00:22:24.060 through your own self-liberation from bondage, from the oppressive past into the new future.

00:22:28.820 You can perfect your own human nature. If there is some imperfection, it's society's fault. It's not

00:22:35.860 your fault. And if there is some imperfection, there's no redemption for it because there's no

00:22:41.440 redeemer. That's the sort of religion that topples statues. The original religion of our seminaries 0.99

00:22:50.060 built up, built up all of the statues, built up this great country. And the new one is tearing them

00:22:55.320 down. There is no middle ground in this political battle. There is no compromise. There's no

00:23:04.060 reconciliation. There's no meat in the middle. There's no meat in the middle between build a

00:23:08.300 statue and tear a statue down. You can, you can leave a statue up, I guess, but that's not really in

00:23:14.640 the middle. That's the former category. That's building up a nation. There's not going to be

00:23:20.620 any middle ground here. We are playing for keeps. It is a battle over keeping our country, which means

00:23:26.640 to continue to build our country or tearing our country down completely. And once they get past

00:23:33.200 the statues, they're not going to be happy. They're going to go for more institutions. They're going to go

00:23:38.140 for you. President Trump talked about this in his first rally since the coronavirus lockdown. And he

00:23:45.640 talked about his strategy. A lot of us, including on this show, we've talked about why is President

00:23:50.300 Trump allowing this to happen? Why won't he roll the tanks into Chaz, Chop, Soy Malia, Soy Viet Union,

00:23:54.820 whatever you want to call it? Why won't he do it? One thought has been that perhaps he wants people to

00:24:00.780 see how bad things get. Trump knows a lot about stagecraft and about the media. Maybe he wants people to

00:24:06.500 see the cities burning and then realize that we need law and order and we have to vote for him. I think

00:24:10.260 that's a tough strategy. But actually at his rally over the weekend, Trump admitted that this is exactly

00:24:17.300 what he's doing. All of these places I talk about are Democrat. You know that every one of them, every

00:24:26.160 one of them. And I have an offer out. I said, anytime you want, we'll come in, we'll straighten it out

00:24:32.800 in one hour or less. Now, I may be wrong, but it's probably better for us to just watch that

00:24:42.600 disaster. I flew in with some of our great congressmen who we're going to introduce in a

00:24:50.160 second. And I said to him, Congressman, what do you think? I can straighten it out fast. Should we just

00:24:57.020 go in? No, sir. Let it simmer for a little while. Let people see what radical left Democrats will do

00:25:05.940 to our country. He makes a great point here and confirms what a lot of us thought was happening.

00:25:15.660 And even more than that, he gives you a peek into his thinking. If President Trump were secretly

00:25:22.060 letting the cities burn just so that we could see how bad it was going to get, I think a lot of people

00:25:26.740 would accuse him of cynicism, saying, ah, you're willing to let cities go up in flames just to

00:25:31.880 make a political point. But the very fact that Trump is telling you what he's doing takes away

00:25:37.820 that cynicism, right? He's admitting it to you. There's no guile here. And that's the point of

00:25:44.780 these rallies is to take you behind the scenes, create this personal connection. And I think he does

00:25:50.020 that pretty successfully. The one trouble with this strategy, though, is that we no longer live in a

00:25:55.860 country that recognizes federalism very clearly. We don't really understand. If you asked 100 people

00:26:02.980 on the street, probably very few of them would recognize that we have local government, state

00:26:08.240 government, federal government. And actually, the local government makes most of the decisions that

00:26:13.760 administers most of the laws and regulations and the state government a little bit more, too. And the

00:26:19.120 federal government has relatively few powers, narrowly defined powers. Most people wouldn't

00:26:26.080 recognize that because it's become less and less true over time. So you look around at the burning

00:26:30.400 cities. I think a lot of people look at Trump and say, well, you're the president. Do something about

00:26:35.080 it. Action is a good spur to enthusiasm. Action is very inspiring. And so Trump is playing a game here.

00:26:42.980 That's why he said, I admit I could be wrong about this, but I think it's better to let people see

00:26:49.020 what happens. I think what needs to happen is a little bit of a combination of the two.

00:26:53.980 I think it's good to watch Chaz and chop. It's hilarious. It's it's sort of like when AOC proposed

00:27:00.000 the Green New Deal, which was so absurd. And Mitch McConnell immediately said, well, we got to vote on

00:27:04.760 this ASAP. We got to get the Green New Deal on the docket and we got to get everybody on the record.

00:27:09.260 Do you support destroying 90% of American energy? Do you support spending $93 trillion? Get on the

00:27:14.320 record, Senator. There is a little bit of that, that performance of seeing how bad it is. But we

00:27:18.880 also need to see action. We have elected Trump in part for his energy. We had other candidates who

00:27:24.540 Trump perhaps aptly described as low energy. Trump is high energy. So we want to see that energy in

00:27:31.060 action. Alexander Hamilton, writing in The Federalist, said that we want an energetic executive,

00:27:35.880 an energetic government. So we do have to see that eventually. When is that going to be?

00:27:41.500 Perhaps we'll have to wait and see. Trump took us a little more behind the scenes throughout the

00:27:45.960 rest of this rally. I thought it was overall an okay rally, but the mainstream media are knocking

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00:29:23.060 So Trump talks about his strategy on the riots. Then he gets even more personal than that. He goes

00:29:36.140 on this digression about how he was giving a speech at West Point, and then he tried walking down the

00:29:41.040 ramp, but the ramp was slippery, so he had to walk slowly. Most people are criticizing Trump for this.

00:29:46.160 They think this was a waste of time at his rally. I think it's the key feature to his rally.

00:29:52.500 Here is Trump talking about that all-important shuffle down the ramp.

00:29:58.140 And this was a steel ramp. You all saw it because everybody saw it. This was a steel ramp. It had no

00:30:05.120 handrail. It was like an ice skating rink. And I said, General, I have a problem. And he didn't

00:30:11.980 understand that at first. I said, there's no way. You understood. I just saluted almost 600 times.

00:30:19.980 I just made a big speech. I sat for other speeches. I'm being baked. I'm being baked like a cake.

00:30:27.140 I said, General, there's no way I can make it down that ramp without falling on my ass, General. 1.00

00:30:32.560 I have no rally. It's true. So I said, is there like something else around? Sir, the ramp is ready 0.99

00:30:44.860 to go. Grab me, sir. Grab me. I didn't really want to grab him. You know why? Because I said,

00:30:52.060 that'll be a story too. So he takes you through. You know, I don't like it when the president uses

00:30:57.720 vulgar language in public, but the story does seem to call for it. And I see what he's doing here.

00:31:03.040 The media for how long? For a week, basically, talked about how Trump was old and doddering

00:31:09.760 by walking down this ramp. Meanwhile, their candidate is Joe Biden. Enough said. But they

00:31:15.600 talk about the ramp for a week. So he wants to take you behind the scenes on all these little

00:31:19.920 moments. At one point, the media accused him of maybe having Parkinson's disease. Trump jokes about

00:31:24.940 this goes on a several minute long rant, basically a standup comedy bit about how when you're drinking

00:31:32.380 water, it's a good idea not to spill it on your silk necktie.

00:31:37.860 You had on a very good red tie. That's a sort of expensive. It's silk because they, they look better.

00:31:45.000 They have a better sheen to them. And I don't want to get water on the tie and I don't want to drink

00:31:52.100 much. So I lifted up the water. I see we have a little glass of water. Where the hell did this

00:31:56.600 water come from? Where did it come from? And I look down on my tie because I've done it. I've taken

00:32:03.960 water and it spills down into your tie. It doesn't look good for a long time. And frankly, the tie is

00:32:09.540 never the same. So I put it up to my lip and then I say, because I don't want it just in case.

00:32:15.540 And they gave me another disease. They gave me another disease.

00:32:29.900 So he takes a sip of the water

00:32:31.640 and he throws the water to decide. President Trump sips the water and then he throws it off the stage.

00:32:43.100 The guy gets stagecraft so well. And you were watching, you say, why am I watching the president

00:32:47.320 of the United States talking about how silk neckties have a better sheen and how you don't want to

00:32:51.280 dribble water on it because they're kind of expensive. Meanwhile, this guy's a billionaire.

00:32:55.520 It's very, very funny. It's very, very personal. And it makes you have a much tighter connection to

00:33:03.940 the man speaking than you have to the mainstream media that are lying about him. And it makes you

00:33:08.220 trust him more than you trust them. I actually think this kind of stuff, the tie bit, all of that,

00:33:12.800 is some of the most important stuff in the speech. He probably could have cut it down a little bit

00:33:16.220 in terms of the length of time, but it was really good stuff.

00:33:19.840 Then he shows you why this personal stuff matters because he pivots from a story that isn't completely

00:33:26.140 trivial, like the ramp or the necktie. He pivots into a personal story about negotiating over the

00:33:31.680 price of an aircraft. And now all of a sudden, very subtly before anybody knew what happened,

00:33:36.860 Trump blends the personal element and the political element. And he shows you his political

00:33:41.600 philosophy, which more or less boils down to make good deals.

00:33:46.560 I said, cancel the contract. I want to cancel. I said, general, can you cancel the contract? He said,

00:33:53.480 yes, sir. I'm very proud of it. Oh, good. Cancel it. Okay, sir. By the way, to cancel it,

00:33:59.560 do you have to pay anything? Yes, sir. We have a cancellation fee, sir. How much is it, general?

00:34:05.180 $250 million, sir. I said, what? Sir, we made a good deal. $250 million. You mean if we don't buy

00:34:16.600 the plane, we have to hand them $250 million? That's not good, right? Look at these two guys.

00:34:20.620 They're looking. By the way, that's like a good story compared to some I could tell you,

00:34:25.160 like with aircraft carriers. So I say, general, don't cancel. Don't cancel. Just tell him I don't

00:34:33.700 want the planes. Don't put anything in writing. Don't put it in writing, general. Why, sir? Because

00:34:39.840 I don't want to pay $250. You don't want to pay $250. The speech was largely like this. It was much

00:34:47.160 funnier than Dave Chappelle's recent standup special on Netflix, right? This is Trump's superpower,

00:34:53.980 and he does it very well. Why does this matter? Well, because most politicians, they don't care

00:34:59.660 about $250 million. $250 million is a drop in the bucket of our federal budget. It's a rounding error,

00:35:04.500 so nobody worries about that. Trump is showing you he does worry about that, that the president

00:35:08.480 of the United States, leader of the free world, is personally negotiating over the cost of airplanes

00:35:13.620 because most politicians don't care about this stuff, but most Americans do budget.

00:35:18.680 They think about things. Even if you go buy a t-shirt or you go buy a box of cereal or something,

00:35:23.500 you're looking at the numbers. You say, okay, well, I don't want to spend $5. I'd rather spend $4. I

00:35:29.380 don't want to spend $15. I'd rather spend $14, and you're thinking about these things. It's very

00:35:33.740 relatable. It shows you that this guy is different from everyone in Washington, and he's much more

00:35:37.660 like you. He then moves on to more ideological questions, and this question, I think, shows a

00:35:44.300 major debate that's going on on the right right now between the old kind of more libertarian consensus

00:35:50.280 and the new, more conservative, traditional idea that's emerging. And this is on the question

00:35:56.440 of flag burning. As President Trump echoed a sentiment he's mentioned before, sentiment that

00:36:01.460 I have supported on this show, which is we ought to have laws or a constitutional amendment, I suppose,

00:36:08.460 in this country against burning the American flag.

00:36:11.460 And you know, we ought to do something, Mr. Senators. We have two great senators. We ought to

00:36:17.460 come up with legislation that if you burn the American flag, you go to jail for one year. One year.

00:36:24.940 This is a great idea. I know that some conservatives are going to shrink back instinctively.

00:36:37.000 Like if you're at a doctor's office and he hits the hammer on your knee and the knee goes up.

00:36:40.340 You're going to shrink back at that because we support free speech. So you can't be for a flag 0.85

00:36:45.400 burning, anti-flag burning amendment, right? Wrong. Not quite. What's the issue here? The issue is the

00:36:52.600 debate. Are conservatives going to get serious or are we going to let the left run roughshod over

00:36:56.520 the country? For a long time in this country, for most of our nation's history, we've had laws

00:37:03.000 against burning the flag. For a lot longer than we haven't had laws against burning the flag.

00:37:09.180 This was just part of our, our nation. Then this, this was challenged in recent decades and it was

00:37:15.740 found to be unconstitutional to have a law against burning the American flag. And actually Antonin

00:37:22.420 Scalia, the great originalist justice was one of the people who opposed, who found that it was

00:37:30.660 unconstitutional to have an amendment or a law against burning the American flag. The conservatives

00:37:35.040 tended to support the flag burning laws. Liberals opposed the flag burning laws. Scalia sided with the

00:37:43.060 liberals on constitutional grounds because he said that burning the American flag is clearly an

00:37:46.720 expressive action. It clearly is about political speech. And so those laws are unconstitutional.

00:37:53.360 Now, one solution to this would be pass a constitutional amendment saying you can't

00:37:57.340 desecrate the American flag. Because in some cases, when you want to dispose of an old American

00:38:02.240 flag, a tattered American flag, you do burn it. We're not worried about the burning. It's the

00:38:05.600 desecration that we don't like. I think this is a very good idea. There's a reason why we,

00:38:11.000 for most of our country's history, had laws against burning the American flag and we all thought that

00:38:14.520 they were perfectly constitutional. It's because it's incoherent to burn the American flag and to

00:38:23.060 do so in the name of the first amendment. Because the American flag is the symbol of the whole country,

00:38:27.740 the country which includes in it the first amendment. If you burn the American flag,

00:38:31.580 you are burning symbolically the first amendment. And so it's an act that doesn't make any sense.

00:38:36.980 Moreover, I mean, I think of it in the way that G.K. Chesterton talked about how there is a thought

00:38:41.500 that stops thought. And that is the only thought that ought to be stopped. There is free expression

00:38:47.380 that stops free expression. And that is the only free expression that ought to be stopped by the

00:38:52.100 lights of the first amendment. That would be something like burning a flag. Another reason is 0.90

00:38:55.740 that nations need to have things that hold them together. And when in the early days of America,

00:39:02.560 we all shared, we shared largely a common actual ancestry in the Anglo-American tradition. We shared

00:39:09.960 a language. We shared political institutions. We shared a religion. We shared all of these things.

00:39:17.500 And increasingly over time, we don't share those things anymore. We don't share any of those things,

00:39:22.180 really. You need to have something that holds you together. And if you can't even agree on the symbol

00:39:27.440 of the whole country, then there's nothing left. Another reason this is a great idea and why it's

00:39:34.440 actually conservative to have an amendment, a constitutional amendment against burning the

00:39:38.880 American flag, is that the conservative worldview needs to have not just form, but substance. It needs

00:39:45.060 to have not just procedure, but actual stuff. So for instance, we support free expression.

00:39:52.000 We support the first amendment, but we also need to support specific things to express.

00:39:59.320 It can't just be, you're free to make any decision you want. Well, what decision are you going to make?

00:40:04.260 It's like the pro-choice people. They say, we're pro-choice. Okay. You're choosing to do what?

00:40:08.880 Really what they mean is they're pro-abortion. We need to have stuff to our conservatism. For the last

00:40:15.580 50, 60 years, conservatism has more or less just boiled down to procedure. We're okay. We're going

00:40:24.020 to oppose the, the certain procedures that are destroying America. But if you use the right

00:40:31.340 procedure to tear down statues, that's a good thing. Or even on the question of immigration, 0.58

00:40:35.700 as we let them more and more and more immigrants in the country and there's less and less and less 1.00

00:40:38.940 assimilation. We say, okay, well we can, of course we would never oppose that left-wing policy,

00:40:43.620 but you got to do it legally. You got to follow the right procedure, but we're not going to oppose

00:40:47.340 you on the substance. We need to have some substance to it. We've seen the effects. Look

00:40:52.000 at originalism. We've said, we need to have these originalist judges. They don't need to have any

00:40:55.440 conservative content, but they need to file this procedure of interpretive principle. Well, guess

00:40:59.440 what? We've lost virtually every important case over the last 20, 30 years, 40 years, more than that.

00:41:06.820 The procedure is not enough. We need to have substance. We need to stand for something.

00:41:10.560 I think that would be a good future for the conservative movement. Frankly, I think it's

00:41:16.280 the only future if we want to stop before all the statues and all, all of our country has tumbled

00:41:20.840 down. And of course, no one is talking about the substantive points of that rally. Everyone is

00:41:25.660 just talking about the crowd sizes. So the left is now attacking Trump for not having a big enough

00:41:30.480 crowd. We were promised a zillion people were going to show up and then there weren't as many.

00:41:36.280 Ironically, before the rally, the left was preemptively attacking Trump for having too

00:41:41.500 many people at the rally. He was going to have too many people and was going to spread coronavirus.

00:41:46.180 Then there, there were more spaced out. There were some empty seats. They were making fun of Trump for

00:41:50.180 having not enough people. Three theories of this. Was there intimidation outside the rally?

00:41:55.300 Was it leftist sabotage or was it lack of enthusiasm for Trump? We know that there was leftist

00:42:00.100 sabotage. AOC admitted it. She said, actually, you got rocked by teens on TikTok who flooded the Trump

00:42:05.700 campaign with fake ticket reservations and tricked you into believing a million people wanted your

00:42:09.380 white supremacist open mic to pack an arena during COVID. Shout out to Zoomers. You all make me so 1.00

00:42:14.720 proud. She was saying it was teenagers who did all this. Turns out it wasn't really teenagers. It was

00:42:18.280 older leftist activists. Here's one woman admitting, as AOC did, that she, she was pushing for all of

00:42:24.640 this. A woman named Mary Jo Laup, who does not exactly look like a teen or a Zoomer, but here's the 0.80

00:42:29.400 TikTok she made. If you've been paying attention to the news, you know that Donald Trump is planning on

00:42:34.040 holding his first political rally post-quarantine on June 19th in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Now, if you don't

00:42:39.700 know why that's a big deal, I want you to Google two phrases, Juneteenth and Black Wall Street.

00:42:44.920 You'll find out why people are really upset about this and why it's a slap in the face to the Black 0.98

00:42:48.140 community. Somebody on another TikTok post commented that he was offering two free tickets on his

00:42:53.100 campaign website to go to this rally. So I went and investigated it. It's two free tickets per cell

00:42:57.880 phone number because when you register, you have to give them your cell phone number. They send you a

00:43:01.720 code. You put the code in and your tickets are reserved for you. So this probably means having

00:43:06.380 worked on a political campaign this past fall, it probably means that I'll start getting text

00:43:09.880 messages from his campaign. All I have to do to get rid of those is text stop. That's all you have to do.

00:43:14.840 Once you text stop, they have to stop texting you. That's the law. They have to leave you alone.

00:43:18.780 So I recommend that all of those of us that want to see this 19,000 seat auditorium barely filled or

00:43:23.440 completely empty, go reserve tickets now and leave him standing there alone on the stage. What do you say?

00:43:27.700 Okay. So she admits it. AOC admits that there was some sabotage going on. There were some protesters

00:43:33.200 out there, intimidate protesters, intimidating Trump supporters who wanted to come in. I think

00:43:38.180 there's also a campaign issue. The campaign could have handled this better. We know that the left

00:43:42.360 pulls these sort of tactics. They do this to every speech that I give on campus. They always reserve a

00:43:46.680 lot more seats and then they either don't show up or they show up and they leave early. That's why we

00:43:51.260 have an, an, a wait list line outside to immediately fill in the seats. I was actually giving a speech about

00:43:57.020 six or eight months ago, defending George Washington at George Washington university in Washington,

00:44:01.420 DC. You might say that I saw this coming, this toppling of the Washington statues. So I was

00:44:08.440 giving a defense of Washington and at a certain point about five, 10 minutes in a whole group of

00:44:12.940 leftists left and we immediately filled the seats back in. Campaign should have seen that coming and

00:44:17.980 the campaign should not have caved to the mob on moving the date. You remember the, initially the

00:44:23.980 Trump rally was supposed to be on June 19th, Juneteenth. Now the most important holiday in

00:44:28.700 all of America. Juneteenth is the day that Republicans told the slaves in Texas that they

00:44:33.800 were free. And this has somehow become a political issue for Democrats. I don't know how that, how they

00:44:38.340 managed to do that. So they said the Trump campaign has to move the rally. Can't be on June 19th,

00:44:44.240 Juneteenth. And the Trump campaign acquiesced to this. They shouldn't have done that. First of all,

00:44:49.500 it created some confusion over when the rally was and it dispirited people because they caved

00:44:54.120 to the leftist mob needlessly and counterproductively. So I think the campaign should

00:45:00.320 learn some lessons from this. Be better prepared next time. Look, this was the first rally in three

00:45:05.080 months, right? Since the lockdowns, that's fine. The important thing is we need to get back out there

00:45:10.780 and see some more rallies. The cancel culture, the statue toppling, the anti-American activities

00:45:19.860 are going to continue. All right. They're already trying, you know, they canceled Christopher Columbus

00:45:24.040 a long time ago. They're now trying to rename Columbus, Ohio, as I said, would certainly happen.

00:45:28.480 They, if you take down a statue of Columbus at Columbus High School in Columbus, Ohio,

00:45:32.540 the next question is why is the high school named after, or the community college named after Columbus?

00:45:36.920 Why is the town named after Columbus? So they want to change the name. And I think this encapsulates

00:45:41.700 the whole of liberal modernity. They want to change the name of Columbus, Ohio to Flavortown.

00:45:49.520 Flavortown, Ohio. This is what they say about it. They say, Columbus is an amazing city, but one whose

00:45:56.000 name is tarnished by the very name itself. Its namesake, Christopher Columbus is in the bad place,

00:46:00.240 by which they mean hell, but they can't use the word hell because they have a very religious worldview,

00:46:04.260 but they don't have our religious worldview. They've replaced it with leftism. He's in the bad

00:46:08.800 place because of all his raping, slave trading, and genocide. That's not exactly a proud legacy. 0.81

00:46:13.180 So again, they get Columbus completely wrong. They accuse him of crimes he did not commit,

00:46:18.360 but you don't expect historical literacy from people who would name a town Flavortown.

00:46:24.300 Why not rename the city Flavortown? The name is twofold. One, it honors central Ohio's proud

00:46:28.720 heritage as a culinary crossroads in one of the nation's largest test markets for the food industry.

00:46:32.480 Second, Chef Leopardy, Guy Fieri, was born in Columbus, so we can honor him.

00:46:38.780 This is what happens in liberalism. Liberalism, and this happens as liberalism spreads out,

00:46:45.540 not just over time, but geographically. It replaces real culture, profound culture,

00:46:52.140 real history, real literature, real art, real tradition with nothing but consumption,

00:47:01.480 nothing but the idea that we should feed our appetites. In this case, literally feed our

00:47:07.280 appetites with debased pop culture and cheap food, cheap, salty, fatty food. Feed me, feed me,

00:47:16.200 feed me. We have squandered our culture on our own ravenous appetites. That's what happens. The old

00:47:24.060 idea of liberty, the old idea of freedom, is that we have to tame our appetites so that we can

00:47:28.260 conquer our passions and actually be free in the world. And the modern liberal idea of liberty

00:47:34.480 is you give in to your passions, you give in to your appetites, and only when you do exactly what

00:47:44.460 you want to do, whenever you want to do it, then only are you free. What culture do you want to live

00:47:50.960 in Flavortown? We're, we're all headed toward Flavortown, folks. When the last statue finally

00:47:56.220 falls, then we will be living in Flavortown, USA. Is that, is that the culture you want? Do you want

00:48:02.660 to live in the world of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln and our beautiful

00:48:07.920 monuments and our religion and our traditions and our institutions? Or do you want to live in

00:48:13.420 Flavortown? Unfortunately, these days, probably most people want to live in Flavortown. Not a good sign

00:48:18.040 for our country, though. That's our show. We got more to get to. We'll do it tomorrow. I'm Michael

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