The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 671 - Hindsight Is 2020

00:00:00.000 It is looking like a Merry Christmas already for some key Trump political allies.

00:00:06.460 Paul Manafort, who formerly ran the Trump 2016 campaign,

00:00:10.700 Roger Stone, decades-long political advisor to Donald Trump,

00:00:14.620 both found themselves in legal hot water because of their association.

00:00:19.020 They have received full pardons.

00:00:21.740 This is a wonderful mercy just days before Christmas,

00:00:24.980 and the compassionate left could not be more furious.

00:00:27.320 I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:30.000 Welcome back to the show.

00:00:37.660 My favorite comment from yesterday from Henry Knox, who says,

00:00:40.980 For COVID, we follow the science.

00:00:42.500 What science? Political science.

00:00:44.520 That's true. That was always true.

00:00:46.140 And actually, the comment is even more insightful than it would seem

00:00:50.040 because the left, when they invoke this term science,

00:00:54.740 it is actually precisely because they have defined their politics as science,

00:00:59.160 because they've defined their understanding as science.

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00:02:47.540 President Trump has pardoned these two key political allies.

00:02:52.220 I say good on him.

00:02:53.660 I think it's great.

00:02:56.080 Stone and Manafort.

00:02:57.400 Roger, both of these guys actually have been sort of legendary in conservative political circles.

00:03:02.980 And I mean legendary in the full sense of that word.

00:03:05.840 Roger Stone has cultivated this image that he's the sorcerer of the dark political arts.

00:03:11.300 He's a dirty trickster.

00:03:12.520 And some of that really is a legend of Stone's own creation.

00:03:17.400 I think, you know, some of it is just a way to kind of gin up publicity.

00:03:21.040 But he's been involved in presidents going back to Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, and now most

00:03:27.500 recently Donald Trump, Paul Manafort too.

00:03:30.400 Same thing.

00:03:30.920 They'd affirmed together back in the old days.

00:03:33.660 Roger Stone and Paul Manafort have no doubt been involved in shady business deals.

00:03:39.020 Every political operative has been involved in shady business deals, at least at that level.

00:03:46.080 That's just an occupational hazard or a requirement of the job.

00:03:50.100 But I think we all know the real reason that Stone and Manafort were prosecuted, right?

00:03:56.860 It's because they committed the one unforgivable crime.

00:04:00.080 They helped the bad orange man get elected. 1.00

00:04:02.460 They didn't get prosecuted because they put money in this account overseas,

00:04:06.460 or they worked on this particular business deal, or they talked to this witness.

00:04:11.260 That's not why they got prosecuted.

00:04:13.100 They got prosecuted because they worked for Trump.

00:04:15.300 They'd been involved in shady business deals for decade upon decade upon decade.

00:04:19.320 The only reason they came under fire.

00:04:20.900 Why?

00:04:21.300 Because of the abuses at the DOJ, the politicization of our criminal justice system,

00:04:26.640 and they worked for the bad orange man.

00:04:28.240 So I'm glad.

00:04:29.180 I'm glad that Trump pardoned them.

00:04:30.920 But when high-level Democratic operatives are prosecuted at the same time with the same

00:04:38.460 ferocity that these Republican operatives are, who are just coincidentally the ones who

00:04:42.040 worked for Trump, when that happens, when Tony Podesta goes to the can, then we can talk

00:04:46.940 about how Manafort and Stone should be prosecuted.

00:04:50.260 Until then, I think this is a great idea.

00:04:52.180 There is a reason that we have the pardon power.

00:04:54.680 I know we talk about law and order on this show a lot.

00:04:56.580 Now, you have law and order.

00:04:58.980 That's extraordinarily important to a civilization.

00:05:01.420 The pardon power exists for a reason, because you do want to have an avenue for mercy as well.

00:05:07.780 Now, Trump pardoned a lot of other people.

00:05:09.920 I haven't been thrilled with all of Trump's pardons going back years now.

00:05:13.240 One I'm not thrilled with here is the pardon of Charles Kushner, who is his son-in-law's father,

00:05:18.360 who actually was prosecuted by Chris Christie, which shows you what a small world it is.

00:05:21.920 Charles Kushner, first of all, his crimes were committed outside of this political realm.

00:05:29.100 You know, his prosecution was not selective for political reasons.

00:05:32.920 He pled guilty to a whole host of sort of financial and business charges.

00:05:38.020 He tried to tamper with witnesses by actually hiring a hooker to seduce his sister's husband,

00:05:45.740 husband, and then he filmed it, and he sent the tape to his sister.

00:05:49.280 It was pretty, pretty shady stuff, man.

00:05:51.800 Pretty dark, dark stuff.

00:05:54.080 And he does not have the same defense that Stone and Manafort have,

00:05:57.480 that because they had some political courage to work for this guy,

00:06:00.160 they were selectively prosecuted.

00:06:01.380 So I don't like that one so much.

00:06:02.380 I don't like some of the other pardons.

00:06:03.440 But in terms of the two big ones that we're hearing about today, Stone and Manafort, great stuff.

00:06:07.320 AOC, the compassionate left winger, absolutely furious.

00:06:11.140 She tweets out, a flow of pardons for the wealthy and the corrupt, yet Brandon Bernard was left to die

00:06:19.300 when his own jurors and prosecutor begged for mercy.

00:06:22.800 Our carceral system, our prison system, laid bare for the world to see.

00:06:30.700 Brandon Bernard was the guy, he's been on death row for decades,

00:06:34.140 and he was just executed a couple of weeks ago because Trump is now actually enforcing the law.

00:06:39.080 So Brandon Bernard, the whole left, said, we need to let this guy off the hook.

00:06:42.820 Please, he's a black man.

00:06:45.080 It's racial injustice.

00:06:46.340 He's been there for so long.

00:06:47.680 It's more generalized injustice.

00:06:49.560 You've got to let him off the hook.

00:06:50.980 Brandon Bernard killed two youth pastors in cold blood after they had helped him.

00:06:57.320 He and a couple of his criminal friends took a ride from these youth pastors,

00:07:02.360 held them at gunpoint, stuffed them in a trunk, robbed them,

00:07:05.960 drove around for hours, tried to sell the woman's wedding ring.

00:07:09.080 They were pleading for mercy, reading them, reading these killers scripture.

00:07:13.720 Another one of these guys shot them both in the head.

00:07:16.200 The woman actually didn't die.

00:07:17.860 So Brandon Bernard poured gasoline all over the car and burned her alive

00:07:22.080 and burned the body of the other guy.

00:07:25.280 That's the, that's the crime that AOC says he should have gotten off the hook

00:07:28.780 and Stone and Manafort helped Trump win an election.

00:07:33.600 And that's the more egregious crime, according to AOC.

00:07:37.320 Could you imagine what a pervert you have to be to think that?

00:07:40.100 Can you imagine what a completely upside down understanding of justice you need to have

00:07:44.320 to believe that?

00:07:45.960 That's AOC's understanding of justice.

00:07:48.200 And, and frankly, it's, it's more widespread on the left.

00:07:51.380 AOC is in many ways just a loudspeaker for, for what people on the far left

00:07:56.260 and increasingly what people more broadly on the left believe.

00:07:59.940 This year has clarified a lot.

00:08:03.960 You might say hindsight is 2020.

00:08:07.060 Waka waka.

00:08:08.440 But it is, it is.

00:08:09.880 This year, this past four years have clarified a lot.

00:08:13.820 I think the, the most important takeaway from, especially this year, but I suppose the whole

00:08:20.580 Trump era, is that the left is not engaging in good faith.

00:08:27.260 The left has convinced us to play by standards and rules that they themselves flout.

00:08:32.600 And for some reason we've gone along with it.

00:08:34.180 This is one key.

00:08:34.980 Sometimes you hear this very famous sort of wicked community organizer, Saul Alinsky brought

00:08:40.160 up, he wrote Rules for Radicals.

00:08:41.420 He was a sort of mentor of Hillary Clinton and, and most other left-wing organizers.

00:08:47.540 And he said, the key is you've got to make your opponents play by their own rules.

00:08:52.020 And the left has not only done that, they've actually made us adopt certain rules that don't

00:08:57.400 really make a whole lot of sense that we previously wouldn't have adopted.

00:09:00.860 But they've made us forget about political reality, right?

00:09:04.400 Which is that politics does not just exist in this abstract plane where it's only principle

00:09:09.140 and it's only these ideologies and five maxims written down to explain your whole view of the

00:09:13.380 world.

00:09:13.980 Politics is circumstantial.

00:09:16.100 Politics requires that you adjust your strategy based on how your opponent is playing.

00:09:20.440 It's the same thing as war, right? 0.77

00:09:23.520 War is politics by other means.

00:09:25.360 Well, the, the re, your opponent has a say in both politics and war.

00:09:29.000 And what the, we've been trying to live up to the standard that we at least thought that

00:09:34.120 the left believed in, even though they didn't live up to it.

00:09:36.440 Standards of fairness, standards of justice, standards of equality, standards of non-discrimination.

00:09:40.260 They don't, they don't believe in that, okay?

00:09:43.380 And so we've got to adjust our strategy if we want any hope of righting this ship.

00:09:48.780 Not that we need to commit immoralities, not that we need to commit injustices, but we

00:09:52.400 need to be clever.

00:09:53.580 You know, you want to be wise as a serpent, innocent as a dove.

00:09:56.100 In terms of these pardons, I would oppose them if the left were playing in good faith,

00:09:59.940 if the left would also throw their guys into the can, but they won't do it.

00:10:02.920 They're trying to impose radical new standards on us and we merely throw our hands up in

00:10:07.840 the air, right?

00:10:09.600 Not, not only that, we need to go further.

00:10:14.660 We need to, first of all, start engaging in politics.

00:10:17.820 We also need to actively defend our own standards.

00:10:23.540 I think this is, to me, the biggest takeaway of 2020 and 2016, which is you've got political

00:10:31.060 correctness, wokeism, this kind of now scientific tyranny, technocratic tyranny, the Fauci types

00:10:37.700 that you're not allowed to see your family and Christmas gets canceled and you got to wear

00:10:40.580 the mask and you got to jump around on one leg and you've got that new standard put in.

00:10:45.800 And for decades now, the right-wing response has been, you do you.

00:10:50.560 Hey, you do you.

00:10:52.260 I can't question what you're doing.

00:10:54.860 I can't suggest it's better to do one thing or another because the minute that I make a

00:10:58.480 moral claim, then you can make a moral claim and they're both the same thing.

00:11:01.840 So the minute, the minute that I say, don't go to drag queen story hour, maybe there shouldn't 0.92

00:11:07.180 be drag queen story hour.

00:11:08.240 You can tell me not to go to church.

00:11:10.760 The minute I tell you don't have drag shows with nine-year-old boys named Desmond, where

00:11:18.060 men are throwing dollar bills at his feet, uh, at a strip at a, at a gay bar rather, which

00:11:23.600 actually did happen.

00:11:24.600 The minute I tell you, you can't do that, then you're going to tell me I can't go to

00:11:28.520 a restaurant.

00:11:29.960 And we, I don't know where we got it in our head that that made any sense, but it doesn't.

00:11:34.040 We have discernment.

00:11:35.460 We have faculties of reason.

00:11:36.700 We have good judgment.

00:11:37.440 We can say, no one, this thing is good.

00:11:39.460 This thing is bad.

00:11:40.240 In fact, not only can we say that we must say that that is what society must do.

00:11:44.520 Every society for all times has had standards.

00:11:47.440 We've had, even on the topic of free speech, I like, I, I strongly defend the first amendment,

00:11:53.380 our traditional American understanding of free speech.

00:11:55.380 There's still some things you're not supposed to say, some things you are.

00:11:57.720 And what, what the left has done is totally flip it.

00:11:59.960 And we've got to re-engage.

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00:13:27.440 Ron DeSantis down there in Florida is, first of all, he's got a famously elderly population 1.00

00:13:35.060 there because once you reach a certain age in New York, I think it is a law you have

00:13:39.840 to move to Florida.

00:13:40.800 A lot of people do this.

00:13:41.820 So he's got an older population in Florida.

00:13:44.600 They are at far greater risk for the coronavirus than any of the younger people or the essential

00:13:50.880 workers or whatever, right?

00:13:52.500 It's, this virus really does break down along age mostly.

00:13:56.620 And, but yet we're being told by the left, no, the way we've got to determine how to give

00:14:01.760 out the vaccine is not based on age.

00:14:03.760 It's based on if you're black.

00:14:05.120 If you're black, you should get it. 1.00

00:14:06.320 If you're white, you shouldn't get it. 1.00

00:14:07.460 Seriously.

00:14:07.980 There were people talking about this in the New York Times.

00:14:10.740 If you're a member of Congress, Democratic member of Congress, you should get the vaccine

00:14:15.120 before people who are older.

00:14:17.760 Ayanna Pressley says that criminals should be prioritized in getting the vaccine. 0.95

00:14:21.040 I kid you not.

00:14:21.760 Inmates should be prioritized.

00:14:22.960 And then the Democrats broadly say that we should ship the vaccines to other countries

00:14:27.020 before every American who needs one gets one.

00:14:30.180 None of those standards make any sense.

00:14:31.860 They're all very politically correct.

00:14:33.720 Ron DeSantis, keeping it simple, says, I don't think so.

00:14:36.300 We're going to give it to the people who are actually at risk.

00:14:38.440 So let me just be very, very clear.

00:14:42.520 Our vaccines are going to be targeted for our elderly population.

00:14:48.980 We've been going through over the last week to do those tip of the sphere, healthcare workers,

00:14:53.400 as well as our long-term care residents and staff.

00:14:56.600 That mission continues.

00:14:58.040 There's been a lot of progress made on that.

00:15:00.300 But as we get into the general community, the vaccines are going to be targeted where the

00:15:07.280 risk is the greatest, and that is in our elderly population.

00:15:10.260 We are not going to put young, healthy workers ahead of our elderly, vulnerable population.

00:15:20.240 This is a coherent argument.

00:15:23.100 And he's going to be opposed by people on the left who say, how dare you?

00:15:28.100 Older people are predominantly white.

00:15:31.720 And so therefore, they're disproportionately white.

00:15:34.640 And therefore, you're a white supremacist.

00:15:36.400 If you say that we should give the vaccine to elderly people first, I don't care that 1.00

00:15:40.840 elderly people are more at risk for the virus.

00:15:42.500 You're a white supremacist.

00:15:43.600 You're a racist.

00:15:44.880 We need to prioritize people based on historical injustices.

00:15:49.260 And they'll redefine that, by the way.

00:15:51.100 They'll write up whatever they want for what a historical injustice is.

00:15:55.080 Even on the matter of race, they'll say that some people aren't really a certain race.

00:15:59.420 Joe Biden did this.

00:16:00.080 He said, if you don't vote for me, then you ain't black.

00:16:02.360 They've done this to a lot of people.

00:16:03.880 Clarence Thomas, they say, is a sort of race, straighter, any conservative who doesn't happen

00:16:09.600 to be white.

00:16:11.000 So even on the racial issue, they have their own fantastical ideology on it.

00:16:16.940 But Ron DeSantis is going to be called all those things.

00:16:20.020 You are going to be called all of those things.

00:16:21.900 If you want to win back the culture, you have to not be intimidated by what the left is calling

00:16:29.800 you, because it is a different standard.

00:16:32.440 Let's say it's the case that, you know, white people or older people are disproportionately

00:16:36.260 white.

00:16:37.020 It nevertheless is true that the older people who are at risk from the virus should get 1.00

00:16:40.440 the vaccine first.

00:16:41.680 That's going to be one standard.

00:16:43.460 That's going to be one moral framework that's put out there.

00:16:45.240 The other one is we should just, you know, measure how dark a person's skin is and give

00:16:49.760 them the vaccine based on that.

00:16:51.280 That's the standard the left is putting forward.

00:16:53.260 You've got to pick one.

00:16:54.280 You can't have both.

00:16:55.560 You have to pick one.

00:16:56.500 It's not enough to say, oh, I don't know.

00:16:58.200 I don't want to engage in this.

00:16:59.860 We'll just, it'll just, it'll work out.

00:17:02.240 We'll let the free market work it out.

00:17:04.060 Or we'll let sort of the randomized distribution work it out.

00:17:09.820 Or we'll let the medical workers work it out. 0.76

00:17:11.060 No, no, you need, in order for it to work, you need a, a framework.

00:17:17.420 You need a plan.

00:17:18.440 This is one of the things that drives me crazy with left-wing science is they always say,

00:17:22.240 look, I don't want to get political about this.

00:17:24.060 What we know is masks work.

00:17:29.300 Work at what?

00:17:30.280 We know the lockdowns work.

00:17:33.060 I don't know that they work at anything other than taking away our civil rights and destroying 0.91

00:17:37.060 the economy.

00:17:37.580 But, but even if you're going to say this works, you need to say what it works for.

00:17:44.280 Say, in order for something to work, it has to have a purpose and it has to achieve that

00:17:47.580 purpose.

00:17:48.020 And it is up to us in politics to determine what, what those purposes are to, to understand

00:17:54.240 what we are trying to achieve.

00:17:56.340 The left wants to skip that.

00:17:58.580 And you've got to be able to stand up and defend a, a framework, an understanding of what

00:18:05.720 politics is for.

00:18:06.600 What do you think the best song of the year is?

00:18:09.500 What would you say?

00:18:10.000 I don't know.

00:18:10.280 I don't listen to a lot of pop music.

00:18:12.320 There was a great music video that came out just the other day that was really good.

00:18:15.160 I think it was a version of Please Come Home for Christmas.

00:18:17.420 I really liked it.

00:18:18.140 I love the way it sounded.

00:18:19.220 Maybe that, but if that's not the best song of the year, what do you think would be?

00:18:23.660 Well, according to NPR, taxpayer funded national public radio, the greatest song of the

00:18:30.240 year, you already know, NPR, it's WAP, wet piece, wet genital structure. 1.00

00:18:39.940 I'm not going to, I'm not going to say the name of the song.

00:18:42.460 WAP is the song of the year by Cardi B.

00:18:44.900 NPR described this because they said that it mocks the insecure, the zealots, the moral

00:18:55.120 grandstanders for having the audacity to push back.

00:19:00.380 It mocks people who are conservative.

00:19:04.740 It has feminist leanings. 1.00

00:19:08.760 Now, I've never met any moral grandstanders more grandstanding about their morality than

00:19:17.000 the left, right?

00:19:18.740 The lie that they push is that they're not, you know, religious.

00:19:23.620 They're not creating a moral framework.

00:19:26.020 They're just, they're just doing what works.

00:19:27.560 That's all of us crazy Christians and Jews and Muslims.

00:19:30.980 We're the ones who have these kind of crazy Bible thumping morality, right? 0.98

00:19:33.980 But the left doesn't do that.

00:19:35.340 They just have science.

00:19:36.140 No, they, they have their own religious understanding of the world, their own moral framework and

00:19:40.940 their own moral grandstanding.

00:19:42.520 And if WAP is the song of the year, then that is representing a very different moral framework

00:19:47.880 than the one that we've traditionally had.

00:19:49.580 Do we have the chutzpah?

00:19:50.740 Do we have the spine to stand up and say that one's wrong?

00:19:54.100 The old moral framework is right.

00:19:55.680 Do we?

00:19:55.980 I don't know.

00:19:56.420 Now, here's one way we could show that.

00:19:58.280 Defund NPR.

00:20:00.000 Either, actually, there are two things.

00:20:01.320 The first thing that would be good to do is to take it over.

00:20:04.120 If I were president today, what I would do is I would use all of the power that I had

00:20:08.060 at my disposal to replace the executives at National Public Radio and put in people who

00:20:15.740 understand things and who understand that WAP is not the best song of the year.

00:20:19.840 And then I would totally transform National Public Radio and make it actively defend the

00:20:26.060 old conservative standards.

00:20:27.260 And if I couldn't do that, if for whatever reason, corporate structure, the law, if I

00:20:31.480 couldn't do that, you know what I would do?

00:20:32.600 I would defund it.

00:20:33.460 I would tear it down.

00:20:34.220 It is not enough for us to throw up our hands and say, oh, well, that, you know, look, that's

00:20:39.140 NPR for you.

00:20:40.240 You know, that's the New York Times.

00:20:41.700 That's the entire mainstream media.

00:20:43.140 That's big technology.

00:20:44.400 That's Hollywood.

00:20:45.540 That's the universities.

00:20:47.020 That's lower education.

00:20:49.040 That's the bureaucracy.

00:20:49.860 Well, that's the whole country.

00:20:51.180 That's the whole country.

00:20:52.040 And if you throw up your hands, you've, you've given up the entire country and we don't want

00:20:59.600 it.

00:20:59.720 This sort of thing has an effect.

00:21:01.160 I think for far too long, conservatives have tried to pretend that the private realm has

00:21:05.860 no bearing on the public realm.

00:21:09.000 The left understands this way better than we do.

00:21:11.560 When they said in the seventies, the personal is the political.

00:21:13.700 They understood that the way that people interact privately on the whole is going to affect

00:21:18.200 how we, how we interact publicly.

00:21:20.860 And that's true.

00:21:21.560 You've got NPR saying WAP is the song of the year.

00:21:24.160 This, this song that, you know, they, they say it's a wonderful for women.

00:21:27.660 It's empowering.

00:21:28.520 It's not.

00:21:29.000 The song actually says that women are prostitutes. 0.97

00:21:31.320 The only way to convince a man to marry you is to become, uh, to play the role of a prostitute. 0.99

00:21:38.060 The only way to keep him engaged is to put on different wigs so that he can think he can

00:21:42.360 convince himself that he's actually cheating on you with another woman so that he remains aroused.

00:21:48.660 That is not empowering ladies. 1.00

00:21:50.380 I don't, Cardi, Cardi, give me a call.

00:21:53.220 That is not empowering, but that has effects in a broader culture.

00:21:56.560 You've got that on NPR.

00:21:57.360 And then here on the New York Times, you've got an op-ed from Megan Nolan, who says, who writes

00:22:03.260 about the joys of frivolous sex.

00:22:06.500 Listen to this.

00:22:07.760 It says, in early lockdown, I spent most evenings in the front room of my mother's house, drunk,

00:22:12.320 staring at a computer, reeling at the prospect of my body being deprived indefinitely of touch.

00:22:17.860 And we can make fun of this woman. 1.00

00:22:20.440 You know, this doesn't sound very pleasant.

00:22:22.160 I think a lot of people were doing that.

00:22:23.520 I think especially a lot of, uh, single people living in cities who moved to the big city to

00:22:28.560 have all these kind of crazy frivolous interactions.

00:22:32.200 They were looking, they're saying, wait a second.

00:22:33.580 Um, I, I don't get to go out anymore.

00:22:35.880 I don't get to go to the club.

00:22:37.240 I don't get to go to the bar.

00:22:38.000 I don't get to go to a restaurant.

00:22:38.760 I can't go on Tinder because of this virus is shutting down my understanding of the world.

00:22:44.560 Only weeks earlier, I was in New York for an extended visit, recently single, pleasantly

00:22:48.200 crazy with the desire to date far and wide.

00:22:50.740 My romantic and sexual value seemed higher then and there than it had ever been anywhere

00:22:55.720 else.

00:22:56.000 My value, like you're an object, like you're a commodity.

00:22:59.280 I thought it would suffer by comparison because everyone in New York is really hot, but it turned

00:23:03.020 out my mildly manic exuberance and complete lack of interest in anything resembling commitment

00:23:07.100 made up for my physical shortcomings.

00:23:09.020 And I imagine my Irish accent didn't hurt either.

00:23:11.640 She's saying, I, you know, I was basically, uh, it's really fun to go out with.

00:23:16.380 And so guys would go out with her big surprise.

00:23:18.960 I felt almost nauseated by the overwhelming knowledge of how many attractive people were

00:23:22.460 out there.

00:23:23.140 Even when my dates were with guys, I would never see again.

00:23:25.420 I found something in them or the evening that I would remember happily, like the one who

00:23:28.940 looked fondly down at me in a hotel room and exclaimed, I love New York at the

00:23:32.700 sight of my body.

00:23:33.700 And then came the shutdown.

00:23:35.080 And she goes on and complains and says, you know, in, in Holland and one of the most completely

00:23:39.980 degenerate leftist countries in the West in Holland, they said, yeah, there's a virus

00:23:45.280 and it's a pandemic and we've got to shut down all the businesses, but you should still

00:23:48.320 be allowed to go have, uh, casual sex, right?

00:23:51.720 You have to, there's no way we could say no.

00:23:54.580 That shows you priorities.

00:23:55.940 You shut down the churches, but these people are clamoring to have casual sex. 1.00

00:23:59.200 It shows you maybe, I'm, I'm not even going to, you know, say that this woman, I'm not 0.97

00:24:04.100 going to beat up on this woman too much.

00:24:05.440 You know, I think a lot of people are in the same boat that she is.

00:24:08.100 However, if she were married or at least in a committed relationship, she'd be happier,

00:24:12.020 right?

00:24:12.180 Because she wouldn't be deprived indefinitely of touch.

00:24:14.120 She'd be happier for a lot of other reasons too.

00:24:18.100 When you look at that, when you look at the screaming girls with the blue hair and,

00:24:21.820 you know, some of the videos we've played this week on the show and you read the joys

00:24:24.720 of frivolous sex, you got to ask yourself, do you want to be that?

00:24:28.320 Do you want to live like that?

00:24:29.480 Is that, is that the kind of standard you want to have?

00:24:32.260 No, I don't think it's conducive to happiness or flourishing.

00:24:34.780 Well, then we need to have another standard and it's not enough to say you do you.

00:24:38.620 It never has been in any society.

00:24:40.800 You've got to orient the society toward good things, toward flourishing.

00:24:46.640 You have to have a coherent framework for your society.

00:24:52.340 And the left is denying even that whole concept, even as they impose their own on us.

00:24:58.140 We're going to have to leave this planet, I think.

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00:25:28.180 There's this battle now between faith, religion, and science.

00:25:47.120 And it's not a real battle because obviously the only reason science developed as it did

00:25:52.660 was because of Christianity.

00:25:54.000 That is, Christianity gave birth to science. 0.72

00:25:56.720 The most famous scientists in history were Christians.

00:26:00.980 Isaac Newton, devout Christian, spent decades of his life interpreting scripture.

00:26:06.140 George Lemaitre, the guy who discovered the Big Bang, was a Catholic priest.

00:26:10.220 Father George Lemaitre.

00:26:11.480 Mendel discovered genetics.

00:26:13.360 Catholic.

00:26:13.700 All these sorts of people.

00:26:17.080 However, there is now, in the public view, a debate between religion and science.

00:26:22.200 And what it really is, is a debate between Christianity and encompassed within this kind

00:26:26.540 of traditional religion is, you know, Judaism, Islam, the kind of theistic religions, and science

00:26:33.280 with a capital S.

00:26:34.020 And what that is, is the religion of leftism, secular liberalism, which has its own maxims,

00:26:39.500 its own liturgies, its own rituals, its own completely irrational beliefs.

00:26:43.200 And Nancy Pelosi, just the other day on the House floor, described this battle as much as

00:26:48.680 the left wants to say, Joe Biden's a devout Catholic.

00:26:51.020 Oh, we love religion.

00:26:51.980 We support houses of worship.

00:26:53.620 They don't.

00:26:54.160 Leftism is a rival religion.

00:26:55.680 And they look upon people who are actually religious, Christian or otherwise, with total

00:27:02.680 disdain.

00:27:03.560 Nancy Pelosi explained how in her words.

00:27:07.600 We didn't do it.

00:27:09.020 We couldn't pass legislation until now because the administration simply did not believe in

00:27:17.080 testing, tracing, treatment, wearing masks, sanitation, separation, and the rest.

00:27:24.840 It had come clear to us now that they believed in herd immunity, quackery, springing right

00:27:34.980 from the Oval Office and not denied sufficiently by some of the CDC and the rest.

00:27:45.220 So now we have a vaccine and that gives us hope.

00:27:50.080 A vaccine that is springs from science.

00:27:53.460 People say around here sometimes, I'm faith-oriented, so I don't believe in science.

00:28:00.140 And I said, well, you can do both.

00:28:02.280 Science is an answer to our prayers.

00:28:04.860 And our prayers have been answered with a vaccine.

00:28:08.600 And in this legislation, we had provision for it to be developed, purchased, and distributed

00:28:16.960 in a way, again, that is fair and equitable and free.

00:28:20.940 Hold on a minute here.

00:28:24.080 I have to question a few things Nancy Pelosi said.

00:28:27.460 Does anybody really believe that someone has come up to Nancy Pelosi and said,

00:28:31.600 I'm faith-oriented and therefore I don't believe in science?

00:28:36.000 I don't think anyone's ever said that.

00:28:38.820 Moreover, I don't know that anyone who is faith-oriented has ever uttered the phrase

00:28:44.480 faith-oriented.

00:28:47.000 It's like in that movie, The 40-Year-Old Virgin, you know, Steve Carell's character is explaining

00:28:52.180 what breasts are like.

00:28:54.620 But it's very clear he's never had any encounter.

00:28:56.680 I think that's what it's like with Nancy Pelosi and religious people. 0.93

00:28:59.140 She goes, yeah, she's like holding it at arm's length.

00:29:01.940 People who are faith-oriented, is that a word you use?

00:29:07.200 Is that in the catechism?

00:29:08.160 I don't know.

00:29:09.080 People who are faith-oriented, no.

00:29:11.520 That's not what people say.

00:29:12.420 They say, I'm Christian, I'm Jewish, I'm Muslim.

00:29:15.480 They don't say, or they say, I'm leftist, I'm liberal.

00:29:19.060 They don't say faith-oriented.

00:29:20.380 And nobody has said, I'm religious, therefore I don't believe in science.

00:29:23.080 What they'll say is, I'm a Christian, and therefore I'm morally opposed to taking a vaccine that

00:29:31.240 was developed using stem cells from aborted babies.

00:29:35.320 Well, you don't believe in science.

00:29:36.760 No, I believe in science.

00:29:38.740 I believe that was a baby, right?

00:29:41.980 I'm following the scientific method.

00:29:43.620 I'm inquiring as to what this physical object, how it came to be.

00:29:47.120 It came to be through aborted babies.

00:29:48.980 And there's something beyond the physical.

00:29:50.540 It's called the metaphysical.

00:29:51.340 And there's a moral order.

00:29:53.660 And I have moral obligations.

00:29:55.620 And we're not just meat puppets.

00:29:57.040 We also are souls.

00:29:58.920 And I just think it's wrong to do that.

00:30:00.600 And so I'm not going to do it.

00:30:01.460 And I also believe in science, because I think there's a 99.7% chance I'll survive this virus.

00:30:06.240 And I also believe in science.

00:30:07.620 And I know that there is such a thing as herd immunity, despite what Nancy Pelosi is saying.

00:30:11.500 She's calling herd immunity quackery.

00:30:13.140 Herd immunity has been a medical concept for ages and ages.

00:30:18.240 A well-accepted medical concept.

00:30:19.520 It's still described on the World Health Organization website, even though they keep trying to redefine it according to the new politically correct standards.

00:30:28.320 If you're faith-oriented.

00:30:29.800 It's like, do you remember when Hillary Clinton described there was a massacre of Christians on Easter?

00:30:34.900 And she didn't refer to the Christians.

00:30:36.580 She referred to the Easter worshipers.

00:30:38.340 This is a woman who has never thought seriously about Christianity ever once in her life. 0.89

00:30:43.360 She's probably thought seriously about some leftist ideology masquerading as Christianity.

00:30:48.760 But no Christian refers to Easter worshipers.

00:30:54.440 And talk about believing the science.

00:30:56.060 Talk about believing the science.

00:30:57.740 We mentioned this a little bit at the end of the show yesterday.

00:30:59.660 49% of American adults believe that the new COVID vaccine will be safe and effective.

00:31:06.400 That's according to Rasmussen, which is a little right-wing, but it is also a very accurate pollster.

00:31:12.900 An even lower number, 46%, believe that the new vaccine will be available in a way that is fair to everyone.

00:31:18.680 That is not the fault of the faith-oriented or the Easter worshipers.

00:31:21.960 That is the fault of a medical establishment that has totally failed us, that we do not have faith in anymore.

00:31:26.860 We should not have faith in science, generally speaking.

00:31:30.720 Even our own faculties of reason are a little bit faulty, you know, so we should rely on them, but we should check.

00:31:36.660 You know, we should double check, and we should really only have faith in God.

00:31:42.060 You know, things that, you know, you know the thing, to quote our president.

00:31:46.180 49%, 49%, just as a purely descriptive matter, it means that the ruling elite have failed.

00:31:55.680 If they cannot convince the majority of Americans to believe that this vaccine is safe, then they have failed.

00:32:02.400 They haven't done their job.

00:32:04.360 You see this in some of the other experts.

00:32:06.540 Dr. Scarf is retiring.

00:32:07.800 You know, Dr. Birx was sort of, she was the Ethel to Dr. Fauci's Lucy.

00:32:13.640 She was the Robin to Dr. Fauci's Batman, but Dr. Scarf got caught because she said,

00:32:18.280 you got to cancel Thanksgiving.

00:32:19.660 Don't see your family.

00:32:20.500 Don't go over.

00:32:21.120 Don't have a good time.

00:32:21.840 And then she got caught seeing her family.

00:32:24.580 And she defended it by saying, oh, it wasn't Thanksgiving.

00:32:27.000 We all had dinner up at my, my beach house, you know, the next day.

00:32:31.000 It's the day after Thanksgiving.

00:32:32.280 Apparently the virus gave everyone a free pass the day after Thanksgiving.

00:32:36.140 No, I don't think so.

00:32:37.000 Then her excuse was, I have to go winterize my home.

00:32:39.060 Okay, what does winterize my home mean?

00:32:40.760 It means you got to make your house ready for winter, you know,

00:32:42.880 so the pipes don't freeze and all that.

00:32:44.000 Right.

00:32:44.340 Most people don't have multiple homes.

00:32:46.320 They've got to go winterize.

00:32:47.480 And that's not a good excuse when you're telling millions and millions of Americans

00:32:51.440 that they can't see their families.

00:32:54.200 They can't celebrate Thanksgiving.

00:32:56.900 What does Dr. Scarf say?

00:32:57.900 She says, it's been a very difficult time.

00:32:59.760 It's been tough on my family.

00:33:01.780 You know, my family's tried to be supportive, but they don't want to do this.

00:33:05.520 My parents had been isolated for 10 months.

00:33:07.860 They've been deeply depressed.

00:33:09.700 And so, you know, I wanted to go see them.

00:33:12.780 Right.

00:33:13.180 It's true for everybody.

00:33:14.220 They don't need to be deeply depressed.

00:33:16.200 We don't need to be so deeply depressed.

00:33:18.580 Bad things happen.

00:33:19.700 I understand we're all going to deal with suffering.

00:33:21.560 We don't need to make this harder on ourselves.

00:33:23.940 And our political elites have made this harder on ourselves and the gullible liberals who've

00:33:27.440 gone along with it and have made it harder on themselves.

00:33:30.800 And the rest of us have been coerced into going along with it.

00:33:32.820 You don't need to do that.

00:33:34.140 Politics is bigger than that.

00:33:35.340 One thing to look forward to in 2021, one thing we've certainly learned from Trump,

00:33:39.580 we can take that politics back.

00:33:41.720 We actually can exert the power that the people give us every now and again.

00:33:45.320 The politicians we elect can exert the power that we give to them at the ballot box.

00:33:49.720 Got it.

00:33:49.960 They have to have courage to do that.

00:33:51.220 That's in short supply, but we can do that.

00:33:52.860 We've seen what it's like to have a little bit of courage.

00:33:54.800 Let's get to the mailbag.

00:33:57.280 Question from Michael.

00:33:59.360 Dear Swarthy podcast host, my wife and I differ politically.

00:34:03.460 I am a staunch conservative.

00:34:05.520 She is a more classical liberal with some leftist positions.

00:34:09.380 For example, she likes the idea of critical race theory, but hates the idea of big government.

00:34:14.960 Okay.

00:34:15.580 We typically have good civil debates.

00:34:18.040 The main issue that we disagree on is abortion.

00:34:20.780 I have pointed out that the low rates of rape and incest related abortions, but she counters

00:34:26.520 with the idea that a lot of these go unreported due to fear of backlash.

00:34:29.520 She has also pointed out that members of the military accidentally killing civilians in

00:34:33.940 other countries go typically unpunished.

00:34:36.120 Okay.

00:34:36.720 Seems like a non sequitur, but okay.

00:34:38.500 Ultimately, she says that as a man, it is not my place to tell a woman what to do with

00:34:43.240 her body, but I say that it is not just the woman's body at stake.

00:34:46.580 What are your thoughts on this?

00:34:48.080 Most specifically about the two arguments I mentioned.

00:34:52.020 Your wife is just dead wrong, I'm sorry to say. 0.99

00:34:54.480 And, uh, it's your, your responsibility as the head of the household to show her that.

00:35:00.700 First of all, if she considers herself a classical liberal, she really can't defend abortion.

00:35:06.620 The reason for this, and you know, I'm not a classical liberal, I'm a conservative, but

00:35:09.720 if you're a classical liberal, especially in the American tradition, then politics to you

00:35:16.900 boils down to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, right?

00:35:19.580 For life, liberty, and the protection of property.

00:35:23.540 Well, you can't pursue happiness or have your property if you don't have liberty.

00:35:29.800 And you can't have liberty if you don't have life.

00:35:32.640 The right to life, according to classical liberalism, is not just one right among many.

00:35:38.360 It's not, you know, I have a right to, uh, uh, go to the doctor or something.

00:35:43.240 If you think about positive rights, the way people are talking about it today.

00:35:46.480 Uh, and then I also have a right to life.

00:35:48.160 No, the right to life comes first.

00:35:49.340 And if you're talking about the negative rights of classical liberalism, you can't have a right

00:35:51.840 to liberty without the right to life.

00:35:53.100 So the, the abortion, I think she should change her position on abortion, even, even from that. 0.99

00:35:58.460 As a matter of a critical race theory, it's just, uh, it's just poison to a body politic.

00:36:03.840 I mean, there's no, cause the, cause you know, I, I don't want to oversimplify it too much,

00:36:07.960 but critical theory generally is the theory to criticize.

00:36:11.700 It, it goes back to Marx's famous description, uh, of his plan, uh, for the ruthless criticism

00:36:19.240 of all that exists.

00:36:21.360 Um, it's more involved in that.

00:36:22.920 It goes even kookier than that, but that's what it boils down to.

00:36:25.800 And so if you are keen on these kinds of modern ideologies, what they all amount to is you've

00:36:33.480 got to hate your country, your civilization, the way society is set up, you've, yourself,

00:36:41.240 you know, you, you, you've, you've got to, your religion, you, you've just got to hate 1.00

00:36:45.240 these things, um, because they're, cause what you're engaging in is a radical criticism

00:36:49.780 of them.

00:36:50.120 Uh, so that's unfortunate in terms of, I don't really know what she's talking about

00:36:53.760 with the, uh, killing, killing civilians.

00:36:56.320 I suppose that often is punished, even if it does go unpunished, doesn't really matter.

00:37:00.140 Uh, and, and the rape and incest issue.

00:37:01.760 I mean, that's, it is simply the case that, uh, it's less than 1% of abortions.

00:37:06.640 And by the way, before Roe versus Wade, we were told that thousands of women died every

00:37:10.000 year from abortions.

00:37:10.780 That isn't true.

00:37:11.800 That the real number was double digits and it was statistically, um, the same when you, when

00:37:17.460 you consider how many states had legal abortion and illegal abortion.

00:37:20.400 The number of women who died from illegal abortions was statistically almost identical to the 0.54

00:37:23.860 number of women who died from legal abortion.

00:37:25.380 So all those scientific arguments are bunk, but really you should get around the philosophical

00:37:28.400 argument that it's just, uh, it's indefensible to, uh, call yourself a defender of liberty and

00:37:34.180 not defend life.

00:37:35.140 From Howard.

00:37:36.880 Hey, Michael, love the show.

00:37:38.820 You're the reason I'm no longer in my libertarian phase.

00:37:40.980 Love that.

00:37:41.560 We all go through that phase.

00:37:42.540 I went through it for a long time, but glad to hear.

00:37:44.740 Good to be conservative.

00:37:46.280 That's what I say.

00:37:47.520 Just a question about the Catholic church.

00:37:49.260 I was born and raised Catholic, but recently with the Pope's comments, uh, who seems to

00:37:53.320 be just a leftist in disguise, I find myself being disenfranchised with the Catholic church.

00:37:59.160 Also, my local church hasn't been open in months, which has not helped.

00:38:02.300 I'm in New York.

00:38:03.280 Do you think the Catholic leaders will start to stand up against the lockdowns and start

00:38:06.400 rejecting leftist sloganeering?

00:38:08.360 Or are we going down a path where the church just lines up with every leftist idea as it

00:38:13.140 seems we are?

00:38:13.900 I'd like some insight as I'm quite concerned about the direction the church is going in.

00:38:17.680 Thanks.

00:38:18.260 Yeah, it's frustrating.

00:38:19.080 We've had bad popes before.

00:38:20.200 We've had plenty of bad bishops before and some bad priests too.

00:38:23.200 Sorry to hear you haven't gone to mass.

00:38:24.600 I know that some places are, are holding public mass.

00:38:27.480 So if you can find one, even if you got a drive, I would recommend doing it.

00:38:30.760 And some are doing it kind of on the down low.

00:38:32.800 I've gone to some of those parishes too.

00:38:34.620 Uh, so I would recommend that.

00:38:35.920 And I'd recommend a Latin mass parish, the extraordinary form of the mass, if you can.

00:38:40.760 In terms of the Pope, you know, he said things that trouble lots of people.

00:38:44.000 Sure.

00:38:44.940 Uh, I always go back to Hilaire Belloc's line.

00:38:47.740 Hilaire Belloc was this hilariously surly Catholic writer about a hundred years ago, 1.00

00:38:52.340 a little more than that.

00:38:53.340 And Belloc said that, uh, I am required as a Catholic to take it as a matter of faith

00:38:59.600 that the Catholic church is divine.

00:39:01.180 However, for unbelievers, a sign of its divinity would be, uh, that no other organization conducted 0.95

00:39:08.420 with such knavish imbecility would have lasted a fortnight, much less 2000 years. 0.70

00:39:14.100 Uh, and I think this is true.

00:39:15.580 The church has been run poorly forever, almost forever.

00:39:20.340 And it's, uh, a lot of the people who have been entrusted with power in the church and influence

00:39:26.040 have abused that power.

00:39:27.580 And yet, uh, if you're a Catholic, you have to believe that is, that is the one true church 0.99

00:39:31.340 and that's it.

00:39:31.760 And it's never gone away, but we can go through very difficult periods and it is up to the

00:39:35.660 laity to, uh, exercise, uh, respect, but also, uh, courage, you know, and to stand up

00:39:41.940 against things when, when they're not looking right.

00:39:44.560 From Frank, Michael, thanks for your show.

00:39:46.820 I was wondering why and also how do you put up with all the good-natured ribbing that you

00:39:51.340 were always getting from Clavin, Boring, and Shapiro, and perhaps, I don't remember any

00:39:55.420 instances, Walsh, I applaud your magnanimity.

00:39:58.460 You know, suffering is sanctifying.

00:40:02.520 I, uh, take it all as an opportunity to become more saintly as I take these sorts of barbs

00:40:09.440 and jibes.

00:40:11.040 And then it really, it kind of started with Ben, you know, Ben, Ben started and, and that

00:40:15.680 all started because I beat him in an election bet.

00:40:18.360 And then I, uh, in 2016, and then I sold more blank books than he sold real books.

00:40:22.400 Uh, so one way that I make myself feel better is I just go home every night and I sort of

00:40:26.860 stare at my framed check signed by one Mr. Ben Shapiro and, uh, and I just am filled with

00:40:33.440 absolute joy.

00:40:34.180 The only, the, the, the other point on this though, which is more broad than the Daily

00:40:38.340 Wire context is men do this to one another.

00:40:42.300 This is the way that men talk. 0.63

00:40:43.700 And I'm sure, I'm sure you know this as well, but I'll never forget in, in college, uh,

00:40:48.400 we're, you know, uh, four or five guys living in this, in the room and not just one bedroom,

00:40:52.900 but it was kind of like a suite type thing.

00:40:54.680 And, uh, and, uh, I don't know, one of us brought a girl back to introduce her to the

00:40:59.140 fellas and, uh, we're all sitting there and we were all just like, you stupid idiot and 0.89

00:41:04.380 you don't, what are you dumb, you fat, you lazy, you whatever, you know, we're all just

00:41:08.840 kind of going at each other.

00:41:10.060 And, uh, she looked at us, she goes, oh my God, why, why are you all so mean to each

00:41:15.100 other?

00:41:15.800 I said, what do you mean mean?

00:41:17.360 Well, it's just, we're buddies.

00:41:18.560 This is how guys talk.

00:41:19.520 What do you mean?

00:41:19.760 How do you, how do you think guys talk?

00:41:21.080 And I know these days you're like not allowed to do it.

00:41:23.320 If you're, if you're tough on a guy, if you go out there and, and, uh, say mean things,

00:41:27.360 you know, it's like bullying, you're not allowed to do it.

00:41:29.160 But I don't know, I think we'd be a better, better society if we could all do that kind

00:41:32.920 of thing a little bit more.

00:41:34.640 Uh, but you know, who knows?

00:41:36.100 That's, that's toxic masculinity. 0.97

00:41:37.700 If you ask the left from Annie, science says influenza cases are down because we're doing so well

00:41:44.560 masking and social distancing.

00:41:46.440 My governor, Kate Brown says we need stricter lockdown measures and schools must stay closed

00:41:51.520 because we're doing a terrible job masking and social distancing.

00:41:55.280 Aren't we supposed to listen to the science?

00:41:57.680 Also, why is no one talking about the fact that case spikes have occurred exactly as cold

00:42:01.660 cases spike in every other year?

00:42:03.720 Thanks.

00:42:04.020 Yeah, look, there is no doubt.

00:42:06.080 There is no question anymore that the coronavirus numbers are inflated.

00:42:09.520 COVID we, we know that they are because county coroners and health officials have admitted

00:42:16.960 that, that anyone who dies with COVID is counted as a death from COVID.

00:42:21.640 So you've heard this in many, many instances, people will be killed from a gunshot wound and

00:42:28.040 they will be counted as a COVID death.

00:42:29.860 So we know for a fact that the cases are inflated.

00:42:32.180 Uh, we know for a fact there is a financial incentive for medical institutions to diagnose

00:42:38.220 COVID illnesses because they, they get more funding for that.

00:42:42.260 So yeah, there's no doubt about those sorts of things.

00:42:45.820 Uh, whether or not the washing the hands and the masks are working, I tend to agree with

00:42:49.940 Dr. Fauci eight months ago because I believe the science, I trust the science.

00:42:54.340 And as Dr. Fauci said, the masks are basically an ornament.

00:42:57.860 The masks don't really do all that much.

00:42:59.820 Obviously they haven't done that much.

00:43:00.880 The virus is still spreading like crazy and everyone's wearing the masks.

00:43:03.880 Uh, they can actually make it worse because you're touching your face and you know,

00:43:08.800 they're, they're, maybe they stop a droplet or two, but they're not going to stop the infection.

00:43:12.360 I generally agree with that.

00:43:14.600 And I, I think that, uh, Dr. Fauci, who is half scientist, half politician,

00:43:19.820 caved to political pressure.

00:43:21.060 But I tend to believe the first thing that he said, because that is common sense.

00:43:24.160 And it seems to have been borne out by the data and the science in our dictatorship

00:43:28.860 of doctors from Sarah.

00:43:30.980 Hey Michael, I'm curious what you feel the role of women in the church should be in first

00:43:34.620 Corinthians and Titus.

00:43:36.000 There are many passages in scripture explaining different expectations, roles, and even positions

00:43:39.880 women are allowed to have in regard to the church.

00:43:41.680 Is this something that should continue today or should we embrace a more open and by more

00:43:46.720 open, I think you mean more liberal or more modernist idea of church duties between men

00:43:50.780 and women. 0.98

00:43:51.060 Thanks.

00:43:52.120 Yeah, I think that should continue to this day.

00:43:54.300 I'm a Catholic.

00:43:55.300 So, you know, that's how we do it.

00:43:57.240 And there have been, unfortunately, some modernist infiltrations and abuses in the liturgy that,

00:44:03.660 that, uh, not even just for the role of women, but just broadly. 0.87

00:44:07.400 But yes, uh, men, priests are men, uh, women should not be priests. 0.96

00:44:13.440 I know that the Anglican church in the seventies decided to add priestesses to their, uh, to

00:44:18.940 their religion, but, uh, Catholic church can't do it.

00:44:22.360 A lot of other Protestant denominations will not do it for that same reason.

00:44:26.420 This is not to say that women don't have a role in the church or even that the role is

00:44:30.500 less spiritually important or something like that.

00:44:32.640 Don't forget.

00:44:33.320 I mean, this is something when I hear people complain about the feminization of the church,

00:44:39.840 I usually, it's more my Protestant friends who say this.

00:44:41.920 I see what they're talking about.

00:44:44.240 You get all the wimpy music and all the sappy saccharine kind of ridiculous, uh, liturgical

00:44:49.280 abuses.

00:44:50.120 And you say, okay, that's kind of feminine. 0.59

00:44:51.920 That's not masculine.

00:44:53.020 But, uh, likewise, let's not forget that the, the image that we have of the church is that

00:44:57.480 Christ is the bridegroom and the church is the bride. 0.98

00:45:00.400 We are all the bride of Christ in the church.

00:45:02.960 That's a very feminine idea for especially Catholics and, uh, Eastern Orthodox and Anglicans

00:45:09.460 to an extent, Mary plays a very important role, uh, the way that we pray the rosary, the way

00:45:14.960 that we sort of try to, to view through Mary's eyes, uh, that you wouldn't call that masculine,

00:45:20.780 right?

00:45:20.940 You'd call that feminine. 0.99

00:45:21.700 Uh, but just as we talk about in modern gender theory, you don't want men to become women 0.99

00:45:26.960 and women to become men.

00:45:27.920 They can't do that.

00:45:28.800 And so I think there are plenty of roles for women in the church. 0.62

00:45:31.740 They can be nuns, for instance.

00:45:33.460 I know that's now considered shocking that anyone would choose a religious life, but a 0.99

00:45:38.560 nuns, good, good place for, uh, women to be. 1.00

00:45:40.840 Um, but it can't be priests and that's, that's the way it is because men and women are different. 0.99

00:45:46.400 And I think if you, if you approach this matter, as I've heard even some, uh, Catholics say,

00:45:51.600 well, why not?

00:45:52.720 I, we deserve to be priests.

00:45:54.160 We deserve, I think you're approaching it from the wrong way.

00:45:56.760 This is, you ought to approach it from a position of humility and, uh, of duty and obligation.

00:46:03.500 What can I do?

00:46:04.260 How can I serve?

00:46:05.180 How can I best serve?

00:46:06.260 So it's not about grandiosity.

00:46:07.800 I once, once heard a homily where a priest said that, uh, you know, sometimes, uh, uh,

00:46:14.500 people would want to, in a, in a Catholic procession, you have the people carrying the

00:46:19.600 cross up the aisle and then that goes in order of importance all the way back to the priest

00:46:24.300 or even the bishop or even the Pope would be further back.

00:46:26.520 And that, uh, this priest said that sometimes these younger, you know, members in the church

00:46:32.100 would try to go back to see more important where the priests and the bishops were.

00:46:35.680 And this priest said, those men should pray to have the humility to stand under the cross

00:46:42.200 and pray that the blood of Christ drops on their heads so that they can understand humility.

00:46:46.860 And, you know, it's a very graphic way of putting it.

00:46:49.200 Uh, but I think that's how we should approach the church, not from a position of entitlement

00:46:53.300 and, uh, feeling that we are owed something, but, uh, from the humble desire to serve.

00:46:59.340 From Aiden, Mr. Knowles, my college just announced that for the spring semester, COVID testing

00:47:05.080 will be mandatory every two weeks for faculty, staff, and students.

00:47:08.340 Masking and social distancing were required on pain of expulsion for the fall semester,

00:47:12.100 even though there were no outbreaks on campus.

00:47:14.020 Now they're taking it further by mandating medical testing.

00:47:16.840 I don't think I signed over my medical rights when I decided to attend a public university.

00:47:20.500 Would love to get your thoughts on this.

00:47:22.880 He who pays the piper calls the tune, my friend.

00:47:25.740 I think what's going on at your school is absolutely terrible.

00:47:29.340 I think it's not going to stop until we all stop, until we all fight back.

00:47:34.680 But he who pays the piper calls the tune.

00:47:36.440 The state runs your university.

00:47:37.940 The state's going to tell you what to do.

00:47:40.600 Uh, this is true, by the way, when people talk about free education, free college,

00:47:44.300 they want the government to pay for college.

00:47:45.700 What that amounts to is a government takeover of even the private universities,

00:47:49.260 which bad as they are, could get a whole lot worse in that scenario,

00:47:53.120 which is why we all ought to pray.

00:47:55.960 We all ought to enjoy one another's company.

00:47:58.200 We all ought to ignore these stupid lockdown rules.

00:48:01.360 We all ought to have a very, very Merry Christmas,

00:48:04.700 because even amid all of this madness and unfortunate turns of events in politics,

00:48:09.340 which always happen, we have a lot to be grateful for.

00:48:13.200 We even have a lot to be grateful for in the struggle.

00:48:15.560 You know, the great saints of history have prayed to live in times such as these,

00:48:18.960 because there's such opportunity for sanctity.

00:48:21.860 Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, see you in January.

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The Michael Knowles Show - December 24, 2020

Ep. 671 - Hindsight Is 2020

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