The Michael Knowles Show - March 10, 2021


Ep. 717 - The Virtue of Restraint


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Rep. Michael McCaul (R-Texas) joins the show to discuss the surge of illegal immigrants crossing the southern border, and how they re being exploited by coyotes and coyotes in order to get into the United States.

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00:00:00.000 Some people say that our political situation could not get any worse, but I am an optimist.
00:00:05.700 I think that our political situation could get much, much worse. And representative Michael
00:00:11.780 McCaul is here to explain how. It's not only a threat to these, these children who are being
00:00:17.540 exploited, but again, they know the laws in our country, but it's also a threat to Americans of 0.81
00:00:23.080 this population coming in. And Biden has cut off these agreements with Mexico, Central America,
00:00:29.260 where they'd have to stay in Mexico to apply for asylum. And now they're, I've seen this before,
00:00:34.640 Martha, I predict this. And by summer, you're going to see, as my governor just said, probably,
00:00:40.480 you know, somewhere around a million people trying to get into this country illegally. And as I said
00:00:45.620 before, it's ironic that you can get into this country illegally easier than you get a tour of
00:00:51.740 this Capitol right behind me. Now on the bright side, we already have about a million illegal aliens 0.63
00:00:58.580 coming in every year. So that's not what's different. I think what's different here is
00:01:02.520 he's saying it's going to be a million sort of all at once. Like the chains are all broken,
00:01:08.260 no restraint left, country being flooded with foreign nationals. So much to look forward to. 1.00
00:01:13.300 I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.
00:01:14.720 Welcome back to the show amid our immigration crisis. My favorite comment yesterday is a more 1.00
00:01:28.260 serious question actually from Carol, who asks, if these minors are unaccompanied, how can they be
00:01:35.460 separated from their parents? That's actually a good question. Pointing out that unaccompanied
00:01:40.720 means, you know, you're alone. You don't have an escort with you. The answer to this is that so
00:01:46.320 many people are entering our country right now that you have unaccompanied minors. You have 0.89
00:01:50.240 minors who were separated from either their relatives or who know the coyotes who brought
00:01:55.120 them over or people who are posing to be their relatives. It's just an absolute mess. And you're
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00:03:26.260 Remember that it's 4hims.com slash Michael. We have this major issue at the border.
00:03:33.180 It's not only because Joe Biden is president. These border surges happen under just about every
00:03:39.660 single administration. What is different is how the administrations deal with it.
00:03:44.060 So Donald Trump took a much more serious stance on this than his predecessors where he formed
00:03:51.280 agreements whereby illegal aliens coming from South America and below Mexico would have to apply for
00:03:57.660 asylum, say in Mexico. They would not be able to just go walk on right through and then pretend 0.99
00:04:03.060 to be seeking refuge in the United States when really they're just economic migrants.
00:04:06.960 Donald Trump instituted many other policies that discouraged this kind of illegal crossing of the
00:04:12.900 border. What Biden is doing is the opposite. He's taking away the Trump safeguards and he's creating
00:04:18.000 new incentives for people to come illegally. What happens when you incentivize a certain behavior?
00:04:22.920 You get more of that behavior, which is why Jen Psaki, our favorite current White House press secretary, 1.00
00:04:28.680 refuses to give the numbers on the people crossing illegally.
00:04:32.160 Why won't you confirm that number? That's a very important number.
00:04:37.140 We've been very clear that there is an increase, that there are more children coming across the
00:04:42.080 border than we have facilities for at this point in time. Those numbers are tracked by the Department
00:04:47.060 of Homeland Security. So I'm certainly I'm just suggesting that you talk to them about specifics.
00:04:50.740 But we talk to them, Jen. They won't confirm the numbers.
00:04:52.680 Well, I would encourage you to go back to them and ask them again. We're not going to confirm them
00:04:56.140 from the White House. It's not our program. It's the Department of Homeland Security.
00:04:58.320 Is the White House encouraging the department to release those numbers and in the spirit of
00:05:01.860 transparency that the secretary promised here at this point?
00:05:03.920 We certainly encourage transparency. But what I also think is important is to talk about what
00:05:08.260 the root causes are here and what we're doing from a policy standpoint to try to address
00:05:12.140 the challenges that we're facing and that these kids are facing as they come across the border.
00:05:18.080 OK, can you just give us the numbers? No, we can't. You've got to talk to Homeland Security.
00:05:24.040 Yeah, we talked to Homeland Security. They said we got to talk to you. No. Yeah.
00:05:28.040 No, I know, though, but we can't because, look, it's not our program. I mean, I know that we are
00:05:33.540 the leaders of the executive branch. I know that we are running this entire branch of the government.
00:05:39.820 But no, you've got to talk to the little bureaucratic agency because they because we
00:05:43.380 report to them because what do we have to do? What? Come on. We're just figureheads over here.
00:05:47.580 We're not we're not actually running the show. OK, well, can you just look? We know you have the
00:05:52.640 numbers. We know DHS has the numbers. You want DHS to release the numbers? Well, no, I'm not. I'm not.
00:05:57.400 I'm not saying necessarily they should don't. Please don't interpret this to believe
00:06:00.640 that we want you at DHS to release the numbers. Why can't you just tell us the numbers? Well,
00:06:05.880 because we want to focus on solutions. Well, OK, the first part of finding a solution is diagnosing
00:06:11.320 the problem. Give us the numbers. They won't do it. They won't admit these record numbers.
00:06:17.720 They won't even admit that what is going on at the border constitutes a crisis. They want
00:06:24.500 no labels. Is this a crisis at the border? Look, I don't think we need to sit here and put new labels
00:06:30.940 on what we have already conveyed is challenging. What we have conveyed is a top priority for the
00:06:36.360 president. What our policy teams are working on every single day. Obviously, there was a trip to
00:06:41.100 the border this weekend. They are working over the course of every day since then on putting in
00:06:48.520 place policies that can help address what we're seeing and help ensure that we are keeping these
00:06:53.900 kids safe and moving them as quickly as possible from border patrol facilities to to shelters.
00:07:00.840 OK, so she's got her story and she's sticking to it. She's not going to give you the numbers
00:07:07.220 because she's focused on policy solutions as though you can't do both at the same time.
00:07:14.020 Say, OK, here's the problem and here's the solution. She won't call it a crisis.
00:07:18.580 Doesn't want to admit that it's a crisis because she's so focused on policy solutions. She doesn't
00:07:24.520 want to think about what she might call the problem itself. So let's talk about the policy solutions.
00:07:32.800 That's what that's what Jen Psaki wants to talk about. What are those policy solutions? 0.94
00:07:38.080 Why kids in cages, of course. CBS News tonight has learned there are more than 3,200 unaccompanied
00:07:44.260 migrant children in customs and border protection custody, a total that has nearly tripled in the
00:07:49.660 last two weeks. For now, these children are being held in facilities that are managed by customs
00:07:54.440 and border protection, but they are meant for adults. We know that several federal agencies right
00:07:59.620 now are working together on this issue. And late this afternoon, CBS News got a statement from
00:08:04.760 the Office of Refugee and Resettlement that says, in part, they are looking at several options for
00:08:09.740 long-term and short-term solutions that will help safely take care of these children.
00:08:15.600 This news report is an absolute masterpiece of propaganda.
00:08:20.880 It's become sort of tedious even to say, imagine what the news report would be under the Trump
00:08:28.700 administration, but just, just actually pay attention to what it was here. Obviously under
00:08:32.440 the Trump administration, if, you know, any border agent sneezed the wrong way, this was
00:08:38.200 genocide and Trump is literally Hitler putting people into camps or something. But in the Biden
00:08:43.740 administration, where they are actually putting more kids into more cages than Donald Trump ever did,
00:08:51.740 cages, by the way, that the Obama-Biden administration built, in that world, we have record number of
00:08:59.640 people, she acknowledges. Then we have minors being put in border facilities managed by customs and
00:09:08.740 border protection. Not, they're not cages. They're, they're facilities, border facilities managed by
00:09:14.500 CBP. And then, if that's the first little part of the report, immediately she goes, and they're
00:09:19.600 working really hard and they're really trying to get the kids out. And I, we talked to one of the
00:09:24.660 officials and he promised they're going to do a really good job. And so that's what they all say
00:09:29.260 they're going to do. And we, you know, goodness gracious, we believe them. So that's the good,
00:09:33.340 that's the news. Not what, not what's happening. That's a little minor part of the news,
00:09:37.160 but all those promises that we're getting, because they're really good guys in the Biden
00:09:42.660 administration. They're, they're, yeah, they're putting kids in cages, but they, you know, they
00:09:47.080 don't want to, you know, they, I mean, they're doing it, but they don't, they'd rather not,
00:09:51.500 you know, and they're really the first thing they can, they're going to stop doing that.
00:09:57.660 So good on them, right? Imagine, imagine that. Never admitting nothing.
00:10:04.460 An old sort of Italian American New York bit of street wisdom is to deny until you die.
00:10:16.080 Do not admit anything. Just, just keep a straight face and say, absolutely no problems here. Don't
00:10:24.320 answer questions. Joe Biden was just at some small business in Washington DC and he was doing a little
00:10:30.640 bit of a photo stop. Joe Biden has now gone 49 days, I guess it is without a press conference,
00:10:36.720 by far the longest in modern history for president to go without a, a direct press conference.
00:10:42.520 Biden is asked, very simple question. What's your comment about the crisis on the border?
00:10:48.540 His press aides all but defenestrate the reporters who dare ask that question.
00:10:53.980 Come on, let's go. Get out of here. Get out of here. You're reporting. You don't get to do that.
00:11:19.040 You get, you ask those questions of Trump. You don't ask those questions of my guy. Joe's just
00:11:24.060 there kind of looking dazed, kind of wandering around by the cash register. Huh? Where, what?
00:11:30.320 Why am I in there? In a general store in Washington DC. Oh, oh, look at that. Is that a yo-yo? Oh,
00:11:35.820 look. He has no idea what's going on. He doesn't know what's going on at the moment. He doesn't know
00:11:40.480 what's going on at the border either. And that's why he won't give an answer. And by the way,
00:11:44.900 he is smart not to answer. And certainly the aides who are advising him are smart not to let him
00:11:50.920 answer. There's no good answer he can give. So he just wants to move past it. You know,
00:11:59.980 this is a, this is a problem, especially for like Christians in politics, because
00:12:04.660 I think the impulse is apologize, admit when you were wrong, have humility. And that's all very
00:12:11.240 important. That's what we all try to do in our personal lives. And, and we try to do it as much
00:12:15.660 as is possible in our political lives, but we're living in this graceless culture right now where
00:12:21.600 the minute that you give into the mob, just even like a tiny little bit, you're done. You're toast.
00:12:28.280 There's no, there's no apology that will ever suffice for them. So I think it's very important to,
00:12:34.280 to recognize what the political context is and what you can do here. There are, there are a couple
00:12:41.140 governors who have, uh, in the democratic party who have apologized when there have been accusations
00:12:46.620 against them and they're much the worst for it. And Joe Biden, we can make fun of him and he's
00:12:51.920 dazed and confused all day long, but that guy is still the president somehow. Somehow that guy is
00:12:58.800 still the president. Pretty amazing when, you know, when you don't have the wherewithal necessarily all
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00:14:10.260 we sent you. Gavin Newsom, we call him New Salini back in my former state of California.
00:14:17.920 Gavin Newsom, unlike Joe Biden, is a politician who has occasionally answered his critics, answered
00:14:25.780 some of the accusations against him. And what's he going to get for it? Well, he's about to be
00:14:30.940 recalled. Here is Newsom addressing his state. You know, I know our progress hasn't always felt
00:14:37.400 fast enough. And look, we've made mistakes. I have made mistakes, but we own them. We learn from them
00:14:44.580 and we never stop trying. After all, that's the California spirit. We're bent, but not broken,
00:14:51.360 bloodied, but unbowed, resolved to make brighter days ahead and not to let the pain of last year to
00:14:58.520 deter us from the hopefulness of tomorrow. Look, the state of our state, it remains determined. I
00:15:04.380 remain determined. And I just want you to know, we're not going to change course just because of
00:15:10.060 a few naysayers and doomsdayers. Look, we're not going to change course just because we're on the
00:15:15.760 wrong course. Okay. Now we're not going to decide to change our strategy just because our strategy
00:15:20.840 isn't working. All right. I am the absolute glibest politician in America, Gavin Newsom. And I,
00:15:26.940 I simply don't possess the intellectual or political faculties to change anything.
00:15:34.360 Not at all. All right. You know, we make mistakes, but we own our mistakes,
00:15:38.260 except I'm not owning my mistakes because I'm not changing course at all.
00:15:42.760 What, what is that kind of a glib attitude going to get Gavin Newsom? It's going to get him recalled
00:15:48.380 unless the Democrats can pull some miracle and invalidate half a million signatures on these
00:15:54.400 petitions, which maybe they can. It would be pretty rich because now we're told that anytime
00:16:00.720 you invalidate any ineligible voter, uh, you know, from the voter rolls, that that's a voter suppression
00:16:06.960 and you're a racist and it's un-American, but sure, they're going to try to do it. It just,
00:16:10.820 it doesn't seem like it's going to work out particularly well for them. Now, will anyone beat
00:16:15.100 Gavin Newsom in this perspective runoff? I don't know. I don't know if they, they can,
00:16:19.540 but it certainly would appear to be what he's aiming at. A lesson, a lesson from these politicians,
00:16:26.920 the clever ones and the less clever ones, do not apologize to the mob. It's very good to apologize
00:16:34.560 in good faith to people who are going to accept your apology in good faith in your, in your life.
00:16:40.360 But when the mob is coming after you, you really can't apologize. I, I saw this yesterday with this
00:16:47.340 poor schlub, this, this fellow Winston Marshall, who is a musician in Mumford and Sons. I actually
00:16:54.680 really like Mumford and Sons. I know maybe I'm just a, a child of the, I was a teenager in the
00:17:00.000 20 teens, so I, I really liked Mumford and Sons. But, uh, this guy, I think he's a good musician
00:17:05.080 and he espoused a very interesting point of view the other day on Twitter. He said,
00:17:09.700 congratulations, Andy Ngo. Finally had the time to read your important book, You're a Brave Man. You
00:17:15.120 know Andy Ngo, a friend of the show, a friend of mine. He wrote this book about Antifa. He has been
00:17:21.020 targeted more than just about anybody by Antifa. He suffered a brain bleed because of these Antifa
00:17:26.660 militants and he's got an excellent book out there detailing it because the narrative that we're
00:17:31.560 being told about Antifa is very different from the reality. We're told that Antifa is just an idea.
00:17:37.060 Well, ideas don't give you brain bleeds. So this Mumford and Sons musician reads the book, says,
00:17:42.840 okay, you know, I enjoyed the book. And then the backlash came. They were very, very upset that he
00:17:50.140 would read a memoir by a guy who got a brain bleed by leftist terrorists. And they're even more upset
00:17:57.040 that he would endorse the book. So he issues an apology. Mr. Mumford and Sons writes, over the past
00:18:05.500 few days, I have come to better understand the pain caused by the book that I endorsed. I have offended
00:18:10.820 not only a lot of people I don't know, but also those closest to me, including my bandmates. And for
00:18:16.300 that, I am truly sorry. As a result of my actions, I'm taking time away from the band to examine my blind
00:18:21.920 spots. For now, please know that I realize how my endorsements have the potential to be viewed as
00:18:26.600 disapprovals of hateful, divisive behavior. I apologize, as this was not at all my intention.
00:18:32.680 Oh, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy. I know exactly what happened here. And you are getting very,
00:18:41.540 very, very bad advice. Here's what happened. This guy, Winston Marshall. I'm just, I know that I'm just
00:18:49.600 pulling this off the top of my head, but I'm, I would be willing to bet a lot of money that something
00:18:53.900 like this is what happened. He comes out and he sends a tweet and he says, oh, I enjoyed this book.
00:18:58.300 Wow. This is a very interesting book. You should consider reading it. Then maybe a bandmate or two,
00:19:05.140 maybe someone and maybe some marketing gal in the publisher's office or some, maybe some people 1.00
00:19:11.420 around him get upset about it. Then the, the Twitter trend happens. And when you trend on Twitter,
00:19:18.500 you feel like the world is collapsing and around you. Then he's getting the deluge of hate, the deluge
00:19:24.780 of mean tweets and emails. And people who are in politics are accustomed to this. We get that sort
00:19:30.800 of thing basically every single day. So you don't, you just don't take it all that seriously. You know
00:19:34.900 how to deal with it. If you're a pure entertainer, you're really not used to that kind of thing.
00:19:40.640 And so it's very jarring when it happens.
00:19:42.480 Now, because we're living in the cancel culture where the left attacks people and ruins their
00:19:48.460 careers for saying perfectly ordinary things, this guy, Winston is in total survival mode. He says,
00:19:55.860 oh my gosh, I'm starting to lose things. This is bad. This has never happened. I've just got to
00:19:59.220 stop the bleeding. I've just got to stop whatever's happening. And some unscrupulous people are going to
00:20:05.880 go in and they're going to say, hey, you've got to issue a perfectly unqualified apology and you've got
00:20:11.820 to step away for a while, but then it'll all be better. Then you'll get your career back. Then
00:20:16.480 you'll get your reputation back. Then you'll get invited to all the same parties. Then you'll get
00:20:19.980 all your money back. And this poor guy believed them, but it's not true. It's not true. Look,
00:20:28.940 in my own career in politics and media, I've had some moments like this where there's a lot of
00:20:35.980 pressure to cave into a mob. I know basically everybody who is in politics and media has had
00:20:42.960 these moments. Do not do it. You only lose by doing it. Unless you feel you've really done
00:20:51.900 something wrong and egregious and then you've got to deal with that on your own. But if you're just
00:20:56.180 talking about something like this, you can never, ever win by giving into the mob. And the people
00:21:01.480 advising you to do so are lying to you. You think that you can preserve something that is already
00:21:08.160 lost. You think that you can get them to like you again. You won't. You won't. I would encourage
00:21:14.320 this fella, Mr. Marshall, if he listens to this show, if he reads Andy Ngo's book, there's a fair
00:21:19.720 chance he listens to this show. Don't do it. Reverse course. Stick to your guns. Go out there and
00:21:24.660 defend Andy Ngo. At least you'll keep your dignity. You'll keep more of your career, I think,
00:21:30.060 if you end up doing that, if you show that you've got a spine. But even if you, even if you're going
00:21:33.860 to, you're going to lose your career either way at a, at a certain level of this kind of a moment,
00:21:38.780 right? That seems like the likely thing. And so at least keep your dignity. That's what I would do.
00:21:43.200 Speaking of changes of heart, Milo Yiannopoulos, Milo Yiannopoulos, very famous right-wing
00:21:49.960 provocateur for sort of famously gay. Milo is now ex-gay according to Milo.
00:22:00.060 Milo is saying he's ex-gay. He's, I think he's gay married, but he's like, they're just not,
00:22:06.000 not doing that anymore. They're living together as roommates and people are making fun of Milo for
00:22:10.980 this. Is this a troll? I don't, maybe it is. I don't, you know, Milo is sort of a famous performance
00:22:15.820 artist. So maybe he's just kind of, he's just doing it as a publicity stunt or something,
00:22:19.220 but I'm going to take it seriously. I'm going to say he actually
00:22:22.020 is going to be ex-gay now. What does that mean? He's not saying that he's no longer sexually
00:22:29.380 attracted to men. He's not saying that he is now sexually attracted to women. I mean,
00:22:34.980 just read the interview. He's explicitly not saying that. He's saying it's very difficult
00:22:38.380 for him and he still wants to sleep with his housemate as he now calls him. But he's saying,
00:22:44.680 I am choosing not to indulge in those desires. And people are very angry at Milo for this.
00:22:51.480 Why would anyone be angry at Milo for this? Why? What, what is the problem? What is it any
00:22:57.980 of your business? Just like people always say, what is it your business if Johnny wants to sleep
00:23:02.060 with Jack? Well, on the flip side, why is it any of your business if Johnny doesn't want to sleep
00:23:06.900 with Jack? If, if we're told that we now can construct our own sexual identities, why is it the
00:23:13.920 case that the, the sexual identities can only go in one direction? Why is it that it can only go in
00:23:19.360 the direction of indulging one's natural desires? Why can't it go in the other direction too? If some
00:23:24.960 guy comes out and says, you know, I've done that a lot, I've done it for a long time, but now as I've
00:23:30.980 been thinking about it and praying about it, I, I don't want to do that anymore. I, I, my sort of
00:23:37.580 mind does not want to do that. My sort of more fleshly desires do want to do that. And so I'm going to
00:23:42.520 try to tame my fleshly desires because that in my view is, is the right thing to do. And so that's
00:23:48.700 what I want to do now. Why would anybody be angry about that? The interview, it's really worth taking
00:23:56.940 a listen to the, the interview. You know, we will, uh, we'll get into that interview in just a moment
00:24:02.640 because I just brief, first of all, it's a very funny interview and, uh, but also he, he is dealing
00:24:08.340 in pretty serious ideas. So we will delve into Milo's complicated sexual thought, uh, in just a
00:24:15.920 moment. First though, you got to check out Ben's show. Uh, Ben, you know, Ben has something of a
00:24:20.500 relationship with Piers Morgan, goes back a number of years now. Piers Morgan just lost his, uh, his
00:24:25.140 job for going after Meghan Markle. Ben's going to be talking about that. Also, you heard us announce
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00:25:35.380 more. Milo Yiannopoulos is now ex-gay, he says. Here is the interview. It's in LifeSite News.
00:25:55.960 He opens up and he says, secular attempts at recovery from sin are either temporary or
00:26:04.020 completely ineffective. Salvation can only be achieved through devotion to Christ and the
00:26:08.480 works of the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. So Milo saying, I'm Catholic now and I'm reverting
00:26:16.360 to my Catholic faith and so I'm going to stop doing all this other stuff. Is this just a troll? If it is
00:26:22.540 a troll, it's a funny troll, right? I mean, you've got this guy who is as flamboyantly gay as anybody 1.00
00:26:28.700 in public life and now he's saying, nah, I'm not doing that anymore. Is that a troll? I actually
00:26:33.640 have a reason to think that it's not a troll because being a Catholic myself, Milo and I run in some of
00:26:40.960 the same circles. I don't know him, but we do know a number of people in common. And I've been hearing
00:26:47.060 about this for a while that Milo is sort of re-exploring his faith and sort of taking his
00:26:52.920 faith, Catholic faith more seriously. So I've been hearing about this for months, maybe more,
00:26:57.300 maybe even a couple of years at this point. So I guess I was not quite as surprised to see this
00:27:02.560 interview as some other people were. He goes on. He says, I have enjoyed a lifelong affection for the
00:27:10.240 absurd and the outrageous. So part of me gleefully anticipates the day I can seize the moral high
00:27:16.020 ground, however briefly, to denounce others for failures of piety and sobriety. I hope people will
00:27:22.220 support and pray for me if for no other reason than they share my delight at the prospect of Milo
00:27:27.220 Yiannopoulos furiously and indignantly railing against the homosexuals for sins of the flesh.
00:27:33.100 That's a very funny line. Sort of when you see these funny lines, you start to think, hold on,
00:27:37.440 is this whole interview just another, another performance? But even if it, I mean, it's a
00:27:42.400 funny interview regardless. Even if it is, you know, Milo is very famous for trying on different
00:27:47.160 personalities. One day he's a buttoned up tweed wearing Brit. The next day he's wearing, you know,
00:27:51.420 sort of big stunner shades and a giant oversized t-shirt and, you know, it's kind of more hip hop
00:27:56.080 or something, right? And he tries all these things on. This does relate to, forget the sexual question
00:28:02.360 for a moment. This does relate to the deeper religious question, which is that in Christianity
00:28:08.800 and, and Judaism for that matter, God, God is, I am, right? What is God's name? God responds,
00:28:19.140 I am that I am. And Christ in the New Testament says, before Abraham was, I am. So he's invoking
00:28:27.800 that he is saying, I, I am God, right? By saying, I am the, I am, I am the, I am being itself.
00:28:35.120 When a culture finds its identity in I am, then things generally sort of are going in the right
00:28:45.120 direction. When a culture such as ours casts away God and religion, you are left with a rather
00:28:53.240 pitiful question, which is, who am I? You hear this kind of popular phrase, well, I've got to find
00:28:58.600 myself, you know, who am I? One day I'm this, one day I'm that. Especially you see this with teenagers,
00:29:02.420 right? They're always trying on new personalities, trying on new identities because they're sort of
00:29:09.040 adrift. They don't, they're not, they're not basing it in this eternal fact of, of being himself.
00:29:15.520 Then Milo concludes his interview. He says, they say, if you let one sin in, others will follow.
00:29:24.960 And now I truly know what that means. As I've begun to resist sinful sexual urges, I found myself
00:29:29.200 drinking less, smoking less, you name it. I confess my weakness for designer shoes and handbags is yet
00:29:34.420 to dissipate, but I'm coming to realize however slowly that lust per Augustine is disordered desire
00:29:41.860 for all sorts of things, not just NFL players. And so what, what he is espousing here is a very
00:29:48.760 Catholic point of view. And the way the story is going to be read is that he's got some hang up or,
00:29:54.280 you know, Christians have some hang up on homosexuality, but it's really not the case,
00:29:58.540 at least in the traditional Catholic sexual ethic. It's not just, it's not just Milo's sexual desires
00:30:07.160 that are off limits. It's a whole host of them because we, the Catholics believe that sex has
00:30:13.920 to be ordered toward a purpose, right? So those sort of things that you do when you close the blinds
00:30:20.660 and you're alone at night, you know, that, that's off limits. Having sex without the possibility of
00:30:29.360 creating life without, without, I'm sorry, without the physical possibility of creating life, that's
00:30:34.920 off limits. It's a very, it's a very focused kind of sexual morality. Chesterton observed, he said,
00:30:44.800 you know, the, the one thing that kind of got me curious about the church is that it would get attacked
00:30:48.480 for opposite reasons. On the one hand, it's too ascetic, right? And just on this particular rigorous
00:30:53.020 sexual morality, but on the other hand, it's too luxurious. There's the gold of St. Peter's and all this
00:30:57.740 beautiful art and all the fancy clothes and everything gets attacked for opposite points of
00:31:01.860 view. I mentioned this whole story, not because I am particularly interested in Milo's sex life.
00:31:09.540 I mentioned it because of a political question that it brings up. It reveals the left's real view
00:31:17.120 of sexual preference and sexual openness and sexual tolerance. We are told in this society of ours
00:31:26.520 that we must tolerate people's sexual behaviors, regardless of our own moral views, whatever they
00:31:33.200 want to do, we should tolerate that. Okay. I see the argument for that. So what about Milo's?
00:31:41.640 So what about my, we, if you're telling me, fine, I'm, I'll, I'm, I'm in. We're going to tolerate
00:31:48.240 people's sexual behaviors, even though, even still, there are some things that are off limits,
00:31:53.680 but who knows how long they'll be off limits. We're going to tolerate people's sexual behaviors,
00:31:57.540 whatever they want to do, not, not ours to judge. Well, then what about Milo's?
00:32:02.680 Milo is saying, this is, this is my preferred sexual behavior now. I don't, I want to be chased
00:32:07.600 and basically not engage in sex because his sexual desires are such that he doesn't want to indulge
00:32:13.720 them. Isn't that good? Isn't that a good thing? Isn't that according to, I'm not even saying
00:32:18.580 according to the Catholic logic. I'm saying according to the logic of the left,
00:32:21.680 isn't that a good thing? But it never cuts that way because the principles that the left is espousing
00:32:26.900 are, are really not principles so much as they're creating a new, a new order of society.
00:32:34.660 It's not these universal principles of tolerance and acceptance, just a new order for society.
00:32:39.540 It reminds me of people attacking Mike Pence for not cheating on his wife. Do you remember that?
00:32:44.020 They were really upset a few years ago because it came out that Mike Pence would not have
00:32:48.860 dinner dates with women when his wife wasn't present. I kid you not. I had liberal friends
00:32:55.120 of mine. This was before the Me Too movement. They were angry with me. They said, it's awful that
00:33:00.080 Mike Pence won't go on dinner dates with his staff and with other women. It's not fair. It's sexist.
00:33:06.200 Then five seconds later, the Me Too movement starts and Mike Pence is looking pretty good, right?
00:33:11.320 But no, because he's kind of damned if he doesn't, damned if he doesn't.
00:33:13.780 So there's no, there's no fair standard that's going to apply. Now, speaking of
00:33:17.780 the Me Too movement, a sixth woman has come forward to accuse Andrew Cuomo
00:33:24.380 of sexual harassment. This woman is upping the ante here. She's saying not only did he wink at her
00:33:32.660 from across the room, not only did he buy her a sausage and pepper sandwich at some political event,
00:33:37.860 no, he touched her inappropriately. She does not go on to explain how she touched her inappropriately.
00:33:47.760 We don't know who the accuser is. The identity is concealed. It's not quite clear why it's all
00:33:53.640 happening now, right? Why, why this trickle is so slow in this sexual scandal for Andrew Cuomo.
00:34:02.460 But there's another one coming out against Cuomo. My take on this, I've told you this from the
00:34:08.700 beginning, is I suspect that most of these sexual claims are overblown and opportunistic
00:34:15.840 and a distraction from the real scandal. The way that you can know this is true is
00:34:22.120 describe to me the sexual allegations against Andrew Cuomo. Take 20 seconds. Describe to me,
00:34:28.860 not who and when. What are the actual allegations? Can you do that? I can't really. Other than the
00:34:38.880 video of him handing a sandwich to a reporter and joking about the sausage. I, what, I can't name
00:34:45.700 them. It's just so, and I don't, look, I don't have any particular love for Andrew Cuomo. He should be
00:34:50.680 out of office. But the way they're doing it is so dishonest. The reason that guy needs to be out of
00:34:57.500 office is because he killed thousands of elderly New Yorkers. Not because of a coordinated political
00:35:05.200 attack on the guy to say that he's a creep or something. He is kind of a creep, but that's not
00:35:09.840 what this is about. And there's another scandal brewing, by the way. It's not just the elderly.
00:35:14.400 Andrew Cuomo now has another COVID scandal going because he had an order directing group homes for
00:35:21.820 people with mental disabilities to accept COVID patients. This order was issued April 10th,
00:35:28.700 just weeks into the state's lockdown in an effort to combat the pandemic. And the issue never,
00:35:37.300 the order never expired. So people who have problems, people who have mental disabilities
00:35:44.060 specifically were used as a, as a place to send all the COVID patients at their group homes.
00:35:52.960 I have relatives who work in these group homes. I have a little bit of an inside track on this, 1.00
00:35:58.480 little inside knowledge of what's going on. This is a real scandal. Thankfully, it didn't spread
00:36:05.800 nearly as much in these group homes as it did in the nursing homes. Nearly 34,000, 34,600 people live in
00:36:13.500 these kind of group homes. 6,900 contracted the disease. I mean, thankfully not a ton died. Over
00:36:21.060 500 died. I mean, there's a lot of 552 residents of these, these group homes for people with
00:36:26.640 intellectual impairments died. Where's that scandal? No, because we're all talking about the hot dog.
00:36:32.020 I want to talk about the hot dog. I want to talk about Milo's hot dog. I don't want to talk about
00:36:35.980 Andrew Cuomo's hot dog for that matter. I want to talk about the actual scandal here that the
00:36:41.480 Democrats are doing everything they possibly can to distract from. But maybe Cuomo's going to lose
00:36:48.480 his job either way. Speaking of brash people losing their jobs, how's that for a segue? Piers Morgan.
00:36:55.120 Piers Morgan has quit his job on Good Morning Britain. Piers Morgan, you know, he was the host
00:37:00.680 after Larry King left CNN. Then that fellow party went over to Good Morning Britain. I kind of get a
00:37:06.420 kick out of Piers Morgan. He's this sort of tabloid figure in, in Britain. You can't really
00:37:12.740 pin him down. And sometimes he's really, seems really right wing. Sometimes he seems really left
00:37:17.460 wing. So Piers rightly went after Meghan Markle in recent days. And, uh, a fellow broadcaster on Good
00:37:27.340 Morning Britain started viciously attacking Piers Morgan about it. Piers just walked off set.
00:37:32.640 And I understand that you don't like Meghan Markle. You've made it so clear a number of times on this
00:37:39.260 programme. A number of times. And I understand that you've got a personal relationship with
00:37:45.140 Meghan Markle or had one and she cut you off. She's entitled to cut you off if she wants to. Has she 0.99
00:37:51.520 said anything about you since she cut you off? I don't think she has, but yet you continue to trash
00:37:56.700 her. Okay. I'm done with this. No, no, no. Sorry. No. Sorry. Do you know what? That's
00:38:00.580 pathetic. You can trash me, mate, but not my own stuff. No, no, no, no. See you later. I'm being
00:38:03.120 sorry. Can't do this. This is absolutely diabolical behaviour. You see, I'm sorry,
00:38:09.180 but Piers spouts off on a regular basis. You can trash me, mate, but not on my own show.
00:38:15.700 I, I got to give the guy credit for this. I got, I usually 99 times out of a hundred storming off
00:38:23.700 set. Looks really bad. Part of the reason it looks bad is you have to take the wires off and
00:38:28.280 you're kind of fumbling for a while and you can hear it on the mic. Piers, I guess, was wearing
00:38:31.380 a wireless mic. I don't know about the earpiece that he had in, but he did it so gracefully.
00:38:35.220 He's sitting there kind of take very, you know, British, just taking his, taking the licks, you 0.64
00:38:39.840 know, and then the guys go, and you, and you, she cut you off. Yeah. And she, yeah, you're a jerk,
00:38:45.820 you know, and you're trashing her. And, and he's just, okay, bye. See ya. Just walks off set.
00:38:52.280 But the reason I find this of any interest to our political questions here is because
00:39:00.040 for a long time, the right in this country, not the left, but the right has espoused this
00:39:04.940 idea that we should always just engage in the free marketplace of ideas. We shouldn't know
00:39:11.360 we should just take any sort of criticism. That's good. That's fine. Because eventually
00:39:15.280 the good ideas are going to win out and that's totally cool. We're anti-censorship, right?
00:39:20.440 You know, we love free speech. And so what Pierce did is sort of opposed to free speech
00:39:24.320 because he just walked, walked off the set. I think he's actually showing us something
00:39:29.580 valuable here. We are under no obligation because of our love of free speech or civil discourse.
00:39:37.420 We are under no obligation to engage in bad faith conversations and bad faith debates.
00:39:45.240 What was going on, on Good Morning Britain, it was not a good faith debate. It was not,
00:39:51.320 you know, Pierce, I don't think it's right for a newsman to say this sort of thing about the
00:39:54.800 princess or the ex-princess. And I think this was very personal. It was not in any way intended
00:40:01.500 to persuade or to, and this guy, I don't think was willing to be persuaded. He was saying, yeah,
00:40:05.960 she cut you off, loser. Yeah, she, yeah, you're, she's cooler than you. You're not cool.
00:40:10.200 Yeah. And so you're, and you're a jerk about it too. And he just says, oh, I, oh, this is what
00:40:14.020 we're doing. Okay. Well, I, I have no, no reason to engage in that. I think conservatives ought to
00:40:17.800 do that a little bit more. The left does it to great political effect, but what do we do? We
00:40:22.500 conservatives, we just always, we go back on the left-wing news shows. We have the left-wing
00:40:26.780 news outlets moderate our debates. We just got the news yesterday from the RNC debate commission
00:40:31.920 that they're not going to have left-wing outlets moderate the Republican presidential debate.
00:40:36.140 Good. Finally, we're, we're understanding this. We're understanding that a free marketplace of
00:40:42.080 ideas in that sort of marketplace, people have to set the rules of the marketplace. And if we're
00:40:46.780 going to engage in commerce, we can't engage in fraud. We want to engage in good faith commerce here,
00:40:52.540 both in, you know, in the economic marketplace and also in the marketplace of ideas. Speaking of
00:40:59.940 bad faith, deliberation and discourse, don't say I didn't tell you so. You know how much I hate to
00:41:08.440 say I told you so on this show. During the election, during the 2020 election, and then especially right
00:41:15.060 before the runoff in Georgia, Joe Manchin, one of the two semi-moderate democratic numbers
00:41:23.200 of the U.S. Senate, Joe Manchin from Virginia comes out and he says, hey, I am not going to let
00:41:30.920 them get rid of the filibuster. I'm not going to let the Democrats get rid of the filibuster, which 0.99
00:41:36.260 is the only protection we have against their extremely radical agenda to not only upend the
00:41:41.540 country, but also maybe give themselves basically permanent political power at the national level.
00:41:46.940 I'm not going to let them do it. Take it to the bank. I, Joe Manchin, I'm not going to let them do it.
00:41:51.360 So I asked Senator Cruz about this on our show verdict. I said, what's your read on Joe Manchin?
00:41:57.620 They said, oh yeah, Joe Manchin, you know, he's definitely the most, most moderate or one of
00:42:01.160 the most moderate Democrats, but he's never cast a decisive vote. When it really matters,
00:42:10.200 when Manchin's going to decide, he goes with his party. He doesn't go with his conservative
00:42:15.280 constituents. He goes with the radical democratic party. So after months of hearing,
00:42:20.780 Joe Manchin, good old Joe Manchin is going to save the filibuster, prevent this deluge.
00:42:26.260 Joe Manchin starts to crack on the filibuster. I'd make it harder to get rid of the filibuster.
00:42:31.780 I'm supporting the filibuster. I'm going to continue to support the filibuster. I think it defines who
00:42:37.260 we are as a Senate. I'll make it harder to get rid of it, but it should be painful if you want to use
00:42:41.720 it. You just, you should make it, make sure the place works to where, okay, I want to work with you.
00:42:46.440 There we go. There it is. Oh, I want to, I love the filibuster. Oh man, the filibuster and me,
00:42:51.540 we go way back. Yeah. Oh man, I would love her. I would never cheat on my filibuster. No way. I
00:42:56.620 totally, but, but we shouldn't use a filibuster that much. We should make it hard to use the 0.89
00:43:03.980 filibuster. We should reform. We should change. We should, this freaking jerk. And he's already,
00:43:12.120 he's getting more questions about this. He's saying, well, you know, my, my, my views are
00:43:15.600 changing a little. Well, you know, can't count on him guys. Can't count on him. The filibuster is,
00:43:23.940 is really great because it restrains the passions of the Senate, which is supposed to be a more
00:43:32.540 deliberative body than the House of Representatives. This virtue of restraint
00:43:36.800 seems to be a common, common thread here. Whether we're talking about the Southern border,
00:43:43.000 whether we're talking about Milo Yiannopoulos, or whether we're talking about the filibuster in
00:43:48.960 the Senate. Restraint is a good thing. Conservatives understand this. Conservatives recognize we're not
00:43:54.240 supposed to indulge all of our intense passions, especially in politics, because then we would be
00:44:00.060 revolutionaries and radicals. We'd burn the whole place down. We don't want to do that.
00:44:03.580 We realize that you need some restraint. Well, what the Biden administration would appear to be doing
00:44:08.760 is taking away all of the restraints, taking away restraints at the border, taking away restraints
00:44:15.060 in our elections, taking away restraints in our lawmaking, taking away restraints and restraints
00:44:21.600 and restraints. That is not going to look great in 2024 or 2022 for that matter.
00:44:31.560 Because now they're trying to pass through this bill, HR1, which is going to upend the election
00:44:36.820 system, give Congress a huge amount of authority over congressional elections. Gosh, what could go
00:44:41.500 wrong there? And take away a lot of election integrity measures. So what are we even looking at?
00:44:47.220 What's our chance that we can win in 2022 or 2024? It's looking worse and worse by the day. Now,
00:44:54.300 before we go, I've been told that it is Women's History Month. I have not covered this on my show.
00:45:01.300 This is a great oversight. Michelle Obama is slated to be inducted into the National Women's Hall of Fame
00:45:11.660 later this year. Michelle Obama, according to the National Women's Hall of Fame, Michelle Obama has
00:45:19.200 emerged as one of the most influential and iconic women of the 21st century. And therefore, she's going
00:45:25.800 to be inducted into the Women's Hall of Fame. What has she influenced? Would be my first question.
00:45:36.400 What has she done? I'm not even attacking Michelle Obama. She's the first lady. Nobody voted for her.
00:45:43.160 Nobody would have voted for her. What was her influence? What is iconic? That's a word I basically
00:45:51.760 would strike from the English language if possible. It's so overused. Unless you're referring to icons.
00:45:57.140 I don't know that one should use iconic. Influential. In a way, she has had influence. Do you remember when
00:46:01.940 her husband was running the first time? And then, and he wins. And she said that when the American
00:46:08.780 people elected her husband, that that was the only time in her adult life that she was proud of her
00:46:15.260 country. That, well, I guess that does exert some influence because disdain for one's country, for this
00:46:24.360 country, has expanded quite a lot. Is she responsible for that? I don't know. The notion that
00:46:31.920 we need to have a National Women's Hall of Fame is really rich. One, because it suggests that they 0.99
00:46:40.000 can't compete in like the National Hall of Fame. You know, they can't compete with the men. But then
00:46:43.840 also because at this very moment, we're being told that they have to compete with men. We're being told
00:46:49.460 that women in, in high school track have to compete with men. We're being told that there's no difference
00:46:55.340 between men and women. And a man who puts on a dress is therefore a woman and entitled to beat 1.00
00:47:01.760 a girl at track and win her scholarships and take her spot in college. 0.60
00:47:07.740 That is incoherent. The left doesn't really matter or doesn't really mind this because for the left,
00:47:13.640 it's the imposition of their rule is all that matters. The coherence of the rules doesn't really
00:47:19.100 matter. You see this understood in George Orwell's 1984. You see this going on right now.
00:47:25.740 So this is another question of restraint. You need to have restraint or things don't make sense. It's
00:47:31.800 the, it's the constraints that give coherence to the whole body. The borders of the country give
00:47:37.840 coherence to the country. If you don't have borders, you don't have a country. The constraints of
00:47:41.940 biological sex are what give coherence to men and women. If men and women are identical, if there's no 0.50
00:47:47.460 difference between them, then there's no such thing as women. Get rid of the National Women's Hall of 1.00
00:47:50.860 Time. They don't exist because we're all just one kind of blob. So much for the restraint. Was that
00:47:56.300 optimistic? I think, I think that is optimistic because of how much further down the slippery slope
00:48:01.820 we have to fall. That's our show. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show. See you tomorrow.
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