The Michael Knowles Show - April 07, 2021


Ep. 737 - “Conservatives” For Castrating Kids


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Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson defended a bill that would prevent perverts from pumping little kids full of cross-sex hormones. Why is this a conservative idea? Is it based on William F. Buckley Jr.'s or Ronald Reagan s?

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00:00:00.000 Two days ago, Asa Hutchinson, the governor of Arkansas, vetoed a bill that would prevent
00:00:06.300 perverts from pumping little kids full of cross-sex hormones. He said that this was very
00:00:10.840 conservative. He then went on TV last night to defend his decision.
00:00:15.740 Why do you think it's important for conservatives to make certain that children
00:00:19.920 can block their puberty, be chemically castrated? Why is that a conservative value,
00:00:25.500 if you would tell us? Well, first of all, you have parents involved in very difficult decisions.
00:00:31.900 You have physicians that are involved in these decisions. And I go back to William Buckley. I go
00:00:39.040 back to Ronald Reagan, the principals of our party, which believes in a limited role of government.
00:00:44.620 Are we as a party abandoning a limited role of government and saying we're going to invoke
00:00:50.180 the government decision-making over and above physicians, over and above health care, over
00:00:55.080 and above parents and saying, you can't do that. So you believe it's health care. You cannot engage
00:00:59.800 in that. William Buckley and Ronald Reagan, that's who you're going to invoke to defend chemically
00:01:07.560 castrating kids? I do not want to presume to speak for the dead. But from what I know about William F.
00:01:14.960 Buckley Jr.'s political vision, it did not involve mutilating little kids and mutilating little Johnny
00:01:21.540 to look like little Jane. Asa Hutchinson here is not speaking for Buckley or Reagan or conservatives.
00:01:28.740 Asa Hutchinson is speaking for a dead conservative consensus that has dominated politics for the last
00:01:35.900 20 years that we need to purge from the Republican Party. We need to purge guys like him from the
00:01:40.800 Republican Party and we need to play ball. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.
00:01:52.080 Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday comes from Stephen Reynolds,
00:01:56.140 who, who asks, how would they react if businesses were asking people if they had HIV before being
00:02:03.680 allowed entry? Private businesses have no right to require me to fork over my medical data. Well,
00:02:08.580 of course, you know, now because COVID falls on one part of the political narrative, now you're going
00:02:15.540 to be told that you have to prove that you don't have COVID or the variant or the super duper variant
00:02:19.000 or whatever. But if it were on another side of the political narrative, if it were HIV, for instance,
00:02:24.160 this would be considered a crime against humanity to ask people to prove that they don't have the
00:02:28.520 virus that, that, that's spreading rapidly at the time. My second favorite comment from yesterday,
00:02:32.840 though, I really liked this. I think it's very important to, to add to the,
00:02:37.420 the conversation about Asa Hutchinson. This is from Mike on Twitter who says, if Reagan was alive
00:02:41.840 and saw that interview, he would have chain smoked a carton of Chesterfields in complete despair of
00:02:48.140 his party. He absolutely would have. I wouldn't, I don't want these jelly beans anymore. I need to
00:02:54.920 smoke and drink if this man will invoke my name. Well, well, that's what we're going to do. We're not
00:03:01.120 going to pump kids full of hormones. Well, you know, if you want to be healthy, if you don't want to
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00:04:12.160 slash Knowles. Speaking of playing ball, Major League Baseball has announced officially it will
00:04:20.780 move the All-Star game from Georgia to Colorado. All of this in the name of racial justice and voting 0.70
00:04:28.240 rights. This is ironic, of course, because Colorado is much whiter than Georgia and has much more
00:04:36.200 restrictive voting laws than Georgia too. Hmm, that's kind of weird. Colorado is 86.9% white and
00:04:45.080 4.6% black compared to Georgia, which is 60.2% white and 32.6% black. But, but it gets even, 0.97
00:04:52.520 even crazier because they're moving to Denver. Denver is three quarters white, 9% black. Really, 0.99
00:05:01.840 Atlanta is 40.9% white and 51% black. And of course, Colorado has those tougher voter laws.
00:05:09.340 So why are they doing it? It doesn't make any sense, does it? It does. This is not about white 0.89
00:05:13.600 people or black people or any of the voting laws. This is about associating with certain political
00:05:18.900 parties. Colorado has a Democrat governor. So it doesn't matter how white the state of Colorado is. 0.51
00:05:25.940 It doesn't matter how restrictive the voting laws are. Georgia has a Republican governor.
00:05:30.460 So it doesn't matter how black Georgia is or how lax the voting laws are. This is about people
00:05:37.040 associating with different political parties. It's corporations saying, we don't want to do business
00:05:44.260 with Republicans. And we're going to make up some excuse about voter laws or whatever race,
00:05:48.820 but it's really just, we don't like Republicans. We don't want to do business with Republicans.
00:05:53.120 This is what Harry's Razors said the other day. Harry's Razors, which had advertised on my show,
00:05:59.020 I don't know, for about a year or something like that. Then they dug up some old clips, some,
00:06:02.640 some political operative or some random Twitter account, found a clip of me on Candace Owens'
00:06:08.900 this old show two years ago where I agreed with something she said. And then Harry's said that,
00:06:14.880 that our values don't align with, with the conservative show. And what they really mean
00:06:20.200 is our values don't align with conservatives. So we'll take your money. Your money is still green,
00:06:23.760 but we hate you. We don't like you. We don't want to be associated with you.
00:06:27.700 Maybe we should believe them. Maybe we should just stop doing business with these guys,
00:06:32.760 right? And that's the first level. Maybe we should stop giving our hard-earned money
00:06:37.880 to companies and corporations and sports leagues that hate our guts. But there's another level too,
00:06:43.240 which I know some more libertarian people on the right are not happy to talk about,
00:06:47.840 but I think we do need to talk about it. Maybe we should start making it a little bit harder
00:06:52.280 for those corporations to do business. Maybe we should use politics for political effect. 1.00
00:06:59.740 Georgia Democrats right now are pretty angry at Joe Biden over this baseball fiasco. Biden thought
00:07:05.720 that he was going to go along with his base and say, yeah, I hate Georgia. We, you got to pull
00:07:10.540 the game out of Georgia. But now the Georgia Democrats are saying, you just lost us a hundred
00:07:13.580 million dollars, buddy. Come on. We were going to make a big show, but not actually kick them out.
00:07:17.100 So now Joe Biden is changing his tune. He was just asked if he would support the Masters golf
00:07:22.240 tournament being moved out of Georgia. Here's his answer.
00:07:24.500 Mr. President, do you think the Masters golf tournament should be moved out of Georgia?
00:07:29.680 I think that's up to the Masters. Look, you know, it is reassuring to see that
00:07:43.700 for-profit operations and businesses are speaking up about how these new Jim Crow laws are just
00:07:57.000 antithetical to who we are. There's another side to it, too. The other side to it, too,
00:08:03.380 is when they, in fact, move out of Georgia, the people who need the help the most, people who are
00:08:10.260 making hourly wages sometimes get hurt the most. I think it's a very tough decision for a corporation
00:08:18.020 to make or group to make. But I respect them when they make that judgment and I support whatever
00:08:25.260 judgment they make. But it's the best way to deal with this is for Georgia and other states to
00:08:31.460 smarten up. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Come on, man. That's quite a change of tune because just a few
00:08:38.820 days ago, he said that he would encourage Major League Baseball to get out of Georgia. Remember,
00:08:44.820 we played the clips on the show yesterday. What do you think about the possibility of MLB moving
00:08:48.180 out of Georgia? Yeah, man, I think that's great. Come on, man. Absolutely. That's, these are new Jim
00:08:52.340 Crow laws. Hey, Joe, now all these Georgia Democrats hate your guts. Well, look, it's complicated. And
00:08:59.160 he, he can't directly contradict what he said just a couple days ago. So he needs to just hold both
00:09:05.000 ideas in his mind at the same time. He has to say, yeah, these aren't Jim Crow laws. Blacks are 1.00
00:09:10.180 being systematically attacked in Georgia and prevented the right to vote. But also maybe you
00:09:18.300 should keep your sports games there. But, huh? What's the argument? I don't really, I don't
00:09:22.560 really see the argument. And the point is, come on, Georgia, come on, shape up. So he runs out of an
00:09:27.400 argument. He says, come on, Georgia, make this easier for me. Come on, just get rid of your law, 1.00
00:09:30.860 which is less restrictive than the law in Colorado where the game is moving.
00:09:36.060 The build your own Twitter Republicans are not going to like what I'm going to say. Okay. The
00:09:42.180 squishes are not going to like what I'm about to say, but I don't care what they think. Darn it. 1.00
00:09:46.400 I think conservative public Republicans will like what I'm about to say.
00:09:50.920 We need to make it uncomfortable for companies to destroy our country.
00:09:54.940 I don't like it when big government threatens to destroy our country and upend our culture and ruin
00:10:01.960 our way of life. I don't really like it anymore when big corporations do that either. We need to
00:10:09.620 use politics for political effect. The left knows this. They've done this for a long time.
00:10:17.120 Now we're going to be told that, well, if conservatives use the political process and
00:10:20.740 the power that people give us, well, then that makes us no better than the leftists.
00:10:23.900 No, no, it doesn't because we will be using it for different purposes. And while form matters in
00:10:29.980 politics, substance matters too. It actually matters what we're doing. When leftists wield
00:10:34.920 political power to destroy our country, that is a different thing than conservatives wielding
00:10:40.680 political power to make our country better. And they're different. Worse and better are not
00:10:45.940 synonyms. They're actually polar opposites. And so I'm not saying that the conservatives should
00:10:51.940 wield political power arbitrarily and, you know, behave like tyrants. I'm not saying anything like
00:10:57.040 that. I'm just saying we should use the just political power that has been given to us
00:11:00.940 legitimately by the people to stop the destruction of our country. That is the most basic lesson that
00:11:07.700 anybody should take from politics. But, but unfortunately the right has atrophied in its
00:11:14.140 understanding of what politics is over the last two or three decades. This is the central topic of my
00:11:19.620 upcoming book, Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds. I hope people read it before
00:11:24.200 it's too late. That book is available for pre-order, by the way, on Amazon. And you can,
00:11:28.520 you can also pre-order an autographed copy on Premier Collectibles. I think I'm going to start
00:11:32.200 sending copies for free, at least to some of these Republican governors and senators so that they don't
00:11:38.480 start all becoming Asa Hutchinson in Arkansas or something, all becoming these squishy,
00:11:43.700 weak liberals. You know, one governor who is taking to heart what we've just been talking about
00:11:49.820 is Ron DeSantis down in Florida. Ron DeSantis understands that it's not, it's good to not give
00:11:56.020 your money to companies that hate you, but also there need to be consequences when even allegedly
00:12:01.820 private organizations try to destroy our country. Ron DeSantis just spoke out against that hit piece
00:12:08.800 that was on 60 Minutes about him where they chopped it up and made it look like he said something
00:12:12.340 that he didn't say. Ron DeSantis said, look, this was a ridiculous hit job. And moreover,
00:12:16.660 there's going to be consequences. They cut out everything that showed that their narrative
00:12:21.220 was a piece of horse manure. And it shows you how dishonest, these are smear merchants. That's why
00:12:28.480 nobody trusts corporate media. They are a disaster in what they're doing. They knew what they were doing
00:12:36.200 was a lie. I knew what they were doing was a lie. Everybody here knows what they were doing is a lie.
00:12:44.060 They know that we know they're lying and yet they continue to lie. And they lied and they lied and they
00:12:49.780 lied. We offered them the information and they declined to interview the key people because they
00:12:58.200 didn't want to let go of the narrative. Well, guess what? There's going to be consequences for that.
00:13:02.120 Uh, we're not, I know corporate media thinks that they can just run over people. Uh, you ain't running
00:13:07.780 over this governor. I'm punching back. There is going to be consequences. That speech that he just
00:13:13.200 gave, that brief speech could have been a Trump speech. The mannerisms were the same. The wording
00:13:17.200 was the same. Ron DeSantis, if he's going to run in 2024, he's obviously running in the Trump lane.
00:13:22.480 This idea that conservatives ought to be able to use legitimate political power, that is a consequence
00:13:28.500 of the Trump phenomenon of his candidacy and of his presidency. That's a very good thing. He has shaken
00:13:34.620 off the old dead consensus that guys like Asa Hutchinson are still having the last gasps of before
00:13:41.860 he leaves office. Ron DeSantis sees which way the wind is blowing. He's obviously moving in that
00:13:46.780 direction. I think a lot of Republicans are doing that. Even, even good old cocaine Mitch McConnell
00:13:52.600 is recognizing that, you know, if you want to hear which way, where the politics is going,
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00:15:10.320 It is not just Ron DeSantis in Florida who's saying we need to hold these people to account.
00:15:16.000 It's not just conservatives like Ted Cruz. It's not just people like Josh Hawley. Even Mitch McConnell,
00:15:23.380 who is the avatar of the establishment right, Mitch McConnell recognizes that the threat posed by woke
00:15:32.040 corporations to our American way of life, to our political traditions, to our constitutional order
00:15:37.160 is just as grave as the threat posed by big government. McConnell issued a statement yesterday.
00:15:43.480 He said, from election law to environmentalism, to radical social agendas, to the second amendment,
00:15:48.140 parts of the private sector keep dabbling in behaving like a woke parallel government.
00:15:54.740 Corporations will invite serious consequences if they become a vehicle for far left mobs to hijack
00:16:01.700 our country from outside the constitutional order. Thank you, cocaine Mitch. Oh, that makes me just
00:16:08.700 want to plant my face into a bunch of McConnell talcum powder and say, say hello to my little
00:16:15.460 new political philosophy. Very, very important stuff that conservatives are growing some cojones.
00:16:22.720 Finally, it's, you know, we've been talking about this for a long time on this show and people have
00:16:27.780 said, oh, Michael, please, that's fringe, that's radical. No, it's everyone in the Republican
00:16:32.860 party who matters right now, who is doing anything even remotely positive for not just conservatives,
00:16:39.700 but therefore for the whole country recognizes this threat. And the old, silly, clean cut dichotomy
00:16:48.000 between the public and the private sector, we now recognize to be much blurrier than, than people
00:16:53.840 have thought for the last 20 or 30 years. The idea here is to stand up for America, which means
00:17:01.780 standing up for Americans, which means standing up for the American way of life over the whims of
00:17:08.560 massive, often international corporations with no national loyalty, no net loyalty to the country,
00:17:15.220 no loyalty to you or me, their countrymen. And some Republicans are really irritated by that.
00:17:21.440 So I think the ones that get which way the country's going, the ones that get which way the
00:17:25.340 country should go, the ones that have real serious influence, they're, they're on board with taking
00:17:30.440 on this challenge. And then there's Liz Cheney. Liz Cheney. Oh man, the only Republican in the House
00:17:38.320 to, I think she's, no, she wasn't the only Republican, but she was the only Republican in
00:17:42.580 leadership in the House to vote to impeach Donald Trump a second time for what? I don't know,
00:17:46.860 because they didn't like the cut of his jib or something. Liz Cheney is coming out really against 1.00
00:17:51.160 this way of thinking and, and not specifically with regard to what Governor DeSantis or Senator
00:17:56.340 McConnell have said, but with regard to a memo that came from Representative Jim Banks to the
00:18:02.460 minority leader in the House, Kevin McCarthy, who, it was a very simple memo. It's long, but I can sum
00:18:07.540 it all up in a little bit. Republicans are the party of the working class. For a lot of the last 20,
00:18:13.660 30 years, Republicans have been the party of the rich and Democrats have claimed the working class
00:18:18.600 and ordinary everyday Americans. And now that has changed. Trump has changed that in the, in the
00:18:25.840 same way that Ronald Reagan changed the Republican party to win, win back more blue collar workers. And
00:18:30.580 he said, this is a good thing. And we should focus on that, not just because it's politically
00:18:35.000 advantageous, but because it's right. It's good. We should not just sell our fellow Americans who work
00:18:42.120 in lower wage jobs. We should not just sell their future out to China or to Mexico or to some other
00:18:47.640 country so that we can boost GDP slightly and tell them to, you know, go away and do their drugs and
00:18:54.860 maybe we'll cut them a check or something every now and again, but leave us alone while people on the
00:18:59.880 coasts make a lot of money. Very simple document makes a whole lot of sense. Liz Cheney furious. 1.00
00:19:04.900 According to Politico, she has argued that the GOP is not the party of class warfare and that dividing
00:19:11.340 society into classes while attacking the private sector is neo-Marxist and wrong.
00:19:20.220 Class warfare cuts two ways, Congressman Cheney. Class warfare cuts two ways. Now we're being told
00:19:28.320 that if you in any way stand up for Americans who work in manufacturing, for Americans who work in
00:19:34.800 rural areas, for Americans who have had their jobs shipped overseas because of intentional trade
00:19:40.100 agreements that were signed by people who hold a very specific political ideology, members of both
00:19:45.940 parties, by the way, that if you stand up for them, you're engaging in class warfare. It's divisive.
00:19:51.620 It's wrong. It's Marxist. You know, when you tell those Americans to shut up when their jobs get
00:20:01.160 shipped overseas, that's class warfare too. When you tell Americans that, that they need to let their
00:20:09.240 towns die like a prominent conservative writer did some years ago, that's class warfare. It seems
00:20:18.960 like class warfare to me at least. When you tell people that they have no right to discuss economic
00:20:27.040 policy, that look, we just worship at the altar of the free market, capital F, capital M, trademark over
00:20:32.380 the T, doesn't look that free to me, but it's a sort of contrivance and a creation of a very narrow
00:20:39.520 political ideology in a certain political class. When you tell them they have no constitutional or
00:20:43.460 political right to question that, that's class warfare. Cuts both ways. Because economic policy
00:20:52.440 is not simply a matter of the private sector. And when woke corporations wield their massive political
00:21:00.380 power to push awful narratives, to fund BLM terrorists, to, to turn the arms of governors,
00:21:10.300 multiple Republican governors, to suggest that it's perfectly fine to pump kids full of hormones and 0.89
00:21:15.120 have boys use the girls' room, even most basic questions like that. Well, that's not just a matter
00:21:21.180 of the private sector. When, when, when our country gets destroyed and, and we're all prevented from
00:21:26.260 practicing our religion and speaking our views and keeping our American way of life, I don't think
00:21:32.500 we're going to say, well, at least our country was ruined by the private sector. And isn't that,
00:21:36.680 isn't that wonderful? Isn't that great? Thank you, Liz Cheney, for allowing the private sector,
00:21:41.460 capital P, capital S, trademark over the R to destroy our country. I don't think so. 0.72
00:21:45.940 I do not think so. We are, we, we've totally flipped this culture upside down. Great example of
00:21:52.460 this would be in comic books. You might imagine I'm not a huge comic book fan, but I remember
00:21:57.420 when the news headline came out that Marvel comic books, I guess it was, hired Ta-Nehisi Coates,
00:22:04.660 the race hustling, extraordinarily overrated writer who, he's a darling of white liberals who award him all
00:22:13.780 sorts of prestigious awards and give him lots of money to talk about how terrible America is and
00:22:18.740 how, how black bodies, to use his phrase, are horribly oppressed. When he uses that phrase,
00:22:24.060 black bodies, I always wonder, I said, you don't think black people have souls? Why do you keep 1.00
00:22:27.160 using that strange phrase, black bodies? So they hired him to write the Captain America comic. I said,
00:22:31.580 okay, here we go. Here we, I can't wait for this one to come out. Well, it's out. And I guess there's
00:22:36.960 some villain in Captain America called Red Skull. And he's a really bad guy, you know, and in Ta-Nehisi
00:22:44.760 Coates' version, the Red Skull is Jordan Peterson. Jordan Peterson, a mild-mannered Canadian professor
00:22:54.820 and psychologist whose most outrageous statements are telling kids to make their bed and pursue truth
00:23:01.540 and stand up straight. You know, really kind of basic stuff if you want to have a good flourishing
00:23:07.900 life. He is now the villain. And it's pretty, pretty clear. You know, they, they reference Jordan's
00:23:14.140 books in the comics now. They reference various things that he's said. We now in this country are being told
00:23:22.280 that truth is falsehood and right is wrong and good is bad. That is, that is not simply a matter of
00:23:31.100 free speech versus censorship or the public sector and the private sector. That is a matter of one
00:23:38.360 set of standards, the radical new standards competing with the traditional standards in
00:23:44.780 this country. That's really what the battle is. That is, I should mention, the topic of my upcoming
00:23:50.080 book, Speechless. The timing couldn't be better. On the one hand, I'm pleased that the book I have
00:23:57.180 coming at is about this very topic because it's, it's timely. On the other hand, I'm utterly dismayed
00:24:01.760 because this is all happening really, really quickly. And we're now being told that if you
00:24:05.360 want to clean your room and make your bed and stand up straight and pursue truth, that you're an evil,
00:24:10.140 rotten Nazi. We're being told this not by big government. We're being told this by the culture,
00:24:14.280 by comic books, by woke corporations. Bad, bad stuff. We need to push back. And it is just too weak,
00:24:23.040 folks to say, well, but we can't exercise any political power because if we exercise political
00:24:27.480 power, that'll make us no different than the left. No, it won't. It'll make us very different
00:24:31.360 than the left because we will be opposing their standards. We will be, we will be engaging in
00:24:37.360 politics as all successful political movements have for all of human history everywhere on earth.
00:24:42.660 And I think some conservatives don't have the courage to be successful. They don't want to,
00:24:45.980 they don't want to defend the new standards because really they're just liberals.
00:24:49.300 liberals like Asa Hutchinson in, in, in Arkansas. Really, when it comes down to it,
00:24:54.600 they're technocratic progressive liberals who want to go a little bit slower.
00:24:58.420 Well, I don't think we should, we have time to do that. Donald Trump said he doesn't have time
00:25:03.060 for political correctness. We don't have time to wait on that kind of stuff. This is happening
00:25:08.780 right now. You know, Ben will be talking on the show today about how the blowback is coming on how
00:25:14.980 there is a lot of discontentment going on right now with what the left is doing. So check
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00:25:52.080 Finally, we're reopening the country, right? Isn't that great? We get to see our family again.
00:26:10.100 Dr. Fauci's reign of terror is over. It's weakening at the very least. We can go do things. We can go
00:26:16.240 back to work. We can have weddings. We can go to funerals. We can do the things that you need to do
00:26:20.900 as a society, but not so fast because now we are being reliably informed by the experts in the lab
00:26:28.180 coats talking through the mainstream media that we can't reopen yet because there are double variants,
00:26:35.960 double mutant variants, and a fourth wave. Stay home. Stay afraid. Stay sheep, say the mainstream media.
00:26:44.980 A lot of attention on this Rangers-Blue Jays game, and it's not because of the matchup on this brand new
00:26:49.800 field. As many as 40,518 fans could pack this ballpark. That would make it the largest gathering
00:26:56.440 of people in this country in more than a year. But President Biden is already calling foul.
00:27:02.440 This morning, concerns about a double mutant coronavirus variant in the U.S.
00:27:06.500 The variant first discovered in India, now identified in the San Francisco area.
00:27:11.080 This is the first time this particular double mutant has been found in the United States,
00:27:15.740 and it was found here at our Stanford laboratory. This is COVID cases across the country climb,
00:27:20.780 and fears of a fourth wave are growing, even as more than 106 million Americans have received at
00:27:26.440 least one dose of the vaccine. It's kind of like a race between getting people vaccinated and the more
00:27:32.180 people on a daily basis you get vaccinated, the better chance you have of blunting or preventing that
00:27:39.220 surge that we're all concerned about. How does anybody take these people seriously anymore?
00:27:47.780 I feel like we are living in a comic book. Double mutant. They couldn't come up with a less
00:27:53.160 cartoonish phrase than that. It's the double mutant. Stay home. Keep listening to Fauci. I know you're
00:27:58.320 all going out and you're realizing everything's totally fine and it's normal and the public health
00:28:02.720 people don't have any credibility, but it's going to be a triple mutant before you know it.
00:28:06.820 Goodness gracious. By the way, I'm not even saying, I'm not saying that there's no virus. I'm not
00:28:14.180 saying that the virus isn't dangerous to some people. I'm not saying that there aren't variants of the
00:28:18.960 virus. I'm not making any scientific point. I'm just making the political point that we cannot live like
00:28:27.600 this forever and we should not live like this forever. Since the beginning of this epidemic,
00:28:34.720 I have ignored basically all of the rules and the guidelines. In narrow circumstances where I have
00:28:42.420 to wear a mask, for instance, I do it like on an airplane. I will do that. Usually I'll protest it by
00:28:49.140 getting my little nose out there. That's my subtle protest. But if I have to do it, I have to do it.
00:28:52.900 I'll make a prudent calculation that it's better to go give the speech somewhere than to not fly and
00:28:58.260 not wear the mask. But generally speaking, 99% of the time, I've completely ignored all of the
00:29:03.240 guidelines. I've never felt better. Does this mean I can't get the virus? No, I can get the virus.
00:29:08.020 Does this mean I have no risk of serious complications? No, I do. I'm making an informed
00:29:13.240 risk assessment and choosing to live my life. If you told me right now, Michael, you can live an extra
00:29:20.660 year, five years, 10 years. You can live an extra 10 years. If you only lock down, don't see your
00:29:29.800 family, wear the stupid mask so that you muzzle yourself in public and you can't see a smiling 0.72
00:29:34.140 face ever again. Just do that and you can live an extra 10 years, I would say no deal.
00:29:40.440 I don't want to. Life is about more than that. The neurotic fear of death that has taken over
00:29:46.520 our culture because people are, I guess, afraid of the dark and they've utterly lost their faith
00:29:53.620 and they think very foolishly that they can extend their lives forever and they're never going to die
00:29:59.020 is an existential matter. I mean, by definition, it's an existential matter. It's a real, real threat
00:30:06.300 to the country because we're all behaving like neurotics, like paranoiacs, like easily manipulable
00:30:17.000 children. Stop doing that. Live your life. As President Trump said, do not be afraid.
00:30:23.780 Do not live your life in fear of the virus. You know what's going to happen after the double
00:30:28.720 mutant virus? There's going to be a triple mutant. You know what's going to happen after the triple?
00:30:31.100 There's going to be a quadruple, quintuple mutant virus. These are not scientific questions.
00:30:36.540 There are new kinds of flu all the time. There's new kinds of all sorts of viruses and diseases.
00:30:41.300 Are you going to live your life like this? That's not a scientific question. Exactly. That's a medical
00:30:48.180 question. Dr. Fauci has got some questions to answer though on the scientific front because
00:30:53.360 we were told by people like Dr. Fauci that if you don't follow all the Fauci guidelines,
00:30:59.840 if you lift mandates and the mask mandates and the indoor dining, if you lift it, the cases are going
00:31:05.660 to go through the roof. We're all going to die. And so what did Texas do? Texas lifted all the stupid
00:31:10.900 mandates and what happened? Nothing that Dr. Fauci predicted. So Fauci was brought onto MSNBC credit
00:31:17.040 to the interviewer on MSNBC said, Hey, Dr. Fauci looks like you were wrong. You have anything to
00:31:22.620 say about that? If you go to Texas, as you know, it looks like 2019, the restaurants and the bars
00:31:28.460 are full and open. The ballparks are full. And yet we've seen cases and hospitalizations since then
00:31:34.740 continue to tick downward. So what do you make of that as all of us look around and sort of try to
00:31:40.560 consider how safe it is to get back to normal life? Yeah. You know, it's, it can be confusing
00:31:47.040 because you may see a lag and a delay because often you have to wait a few weeks before you see
00:31:55.040 the effect of what you're doing right now. You know, there, there are a lot of things that go
00:31:59.600 into that. I mean, when you say that they've, they've had a lot of activity on the outside,
00:32:06.100 like ball games, I'm not really quite sure. It could be they're doing things outdoors. You know,
00:32:11.160 it's very difficult to just one-on-one compare that. You just have to see in the long range.
00:32:16.620 I hope they continue to tick down. If they do, that would be great. But we've been fooled before.
00:32:23.580 We've been fooled before. You don't say Dr. Fauci. And who did all the fooling? Listen,
00:32:30.660 if anybody knows about fooling people, it's me, Dr. Fauci. Wear the mask, sheep.
00:32:38.420 Dr. Speaking of fooling, I'm not even just saying he got things wrong. I'm saying he
00:32:41.040 said things that he did not believe were true. Remember when he said at the beginning of the
00:32:45.700 epidemic, he said, don't wear a mask. Wearing a mask is bad. It doesn't do anything.
00:32:49.140 It actually, it might, might be worse if you wear a mask because you'll touch your face.
00:32:52.660 So don't do it. And then about five seconds later, he said, now you all have to wear masks.
00:32:56.800 I said, what changed? And he explained his reasoning. He said, well, at the time I knew
00:33:03.040 that, that I thought, I felt the masks did work at stopping the spread of the virus,
00:33:06.900 but I felt there might be a mask shortage. So I wanted to reserve masks for all the public
00:33:12.240 health people that I felt deserved to have them. And I didn't want all you peasants to have the 0.96
00:33:16.720 masks. So I told you that the masks don't work. So you wouldn't buy up all the masks. But now that
00:33:21.160 I know we have enough masks, now I'm going to admit to you what I believed all along, which is that
00:33:25.260 the masks do work. So now you have to wear one. If you're going to admit to that kind of dishonesty,
00:33:30.720 what credibility do you have? We've been fooled before. We have indeed been fooled before.
00:33:40.160 Opposition to reopening the country at this point is, it is a grift as it always has been a grift.
00:33:48.480 But at this point, it's a totally transparent grift. The Los Angeles Teachers Union,
00:33:55.980 those brave souls who promise they're going to return to work sometime in 2057,
00:34:01.740 the LA Teacher Union is demanding, now that there's no argument, virtually every school is back in some
00:34:08.220 capacity. LA Teachers Union holding firm, they say they won't return to work.
00:34:13.520 It's not until they clean the classrooms. It's not until they make people wear the stupid masks or
00:34:18.120 whatever. They won't return to work until they're given free childcare for their own children,
00:34:25.120 according to a report from Politico. What? What does that have to do with the coronavirus?
00:34:33.500 You're just trying to get an insanely generous perk of employment as a negotiation that very few of us
00:34:42.000 in the workplace have. I don't get free childcare at my office. Why are the LA teachers supposed to get
00:34:47.720 free childcare? These are government employees who are paid by, formerly by my taxpayer dollars.
00:34:53.680 Thankfully, I'm out of that place. What is going on now is not a union action to protect their members
00:35:01.680 for safety. What is going on now is effectively a strike. The LA Teachers Union is going on a strike,
00:35:06.680 not because of a virus or a fear of getting the sniffles. They're going on strike because they want
00:35:14.120 to get a better contract. They want to get a better deal. They should have no right to do this.
00:35:21.500 These government employees who are paid relatively well, certainly for the work they're doing right
00:35:27.080 now, which is bupkis, bupkis work for a decent enough salary, they should be given an ultimatum. 0.96
00:35:35.160 They should be told, go back to work or lose your job. Simple as that. A former governor of California,
00:35:45.540 Ronald Reagan, gave air traffic controllers this ultimatum when he was president. The air
00:35:50.520 traffic controllers union decided they want to get a better deal and they had no right to do this.
00:35:57.480 They were a government union. They had no right to go on strike. That's the law. Law was very clear.
00:36:03.320 They went on strike anyway. And Ronald Reagan did not say, well, you know, okay, maybe we'll give
00:36:10.800 just, okay, can you go back in six months? He said, if you don't go to work in two days,
00:36:14.580 you're going to lose your job. And that's that. I must tell those who failed to report for duty
00:36:18.820 this morning, they are in violation of the law. And if they do not report for work within 48 hours,
00:36:26.460 they have forfeited their jobs and will be terminated. Clear enough to me, this absolutely
00:36:33.200 should be the rule with the LA Teachers Union. It won't be because the advantage that Reagan had
00:36:39.580 here, well, one is that he had been a union president. He had been the president of the
00:36:42.980 Screen Actors Guild. So he knew how unions worked down to the very bottom. Also, he was not in the
00:36:51.120 pocket of the unions. The unions did not really like Ronald Reagan. Some unions liked him, but a lot
00:36:55.920 of them did not because he was a Republican. And so it was not so hard for him to oppose the unions.
00:37:01.260 For someone like Gavin Newsom, who's fighting for his political life right now, or someone like the LA
00:37:06.400 mayor or supervisors, they are in the pocket of the union. So they can't fight them. This is part of
00:37:13.220 why public sector, you know, government unionization is so insidious, is that in the case of a public
00:37:21.740 sector union, the government is negotiating with itself. So there's no incentive to keep the prices
00:37:26.360 down because the government is just bribing the government union workers with taxpayer dollars
00:37:34.540 to then go organize. And then the unions vote for those Democrat politicians. Makes for decent 1.00
00:37:39.380 politics, but it's not great for the country. Absolutely. They need to be opposed.
00:37:48.000 Who's going to do it? Gavin Newsom is not going to do it, but Gavin Newsom very likely,
00:37:51.720 almost certainly is going to be recalled. Who's going to run against him? Well, there's one
00:37:55.880 candidate who is considering throwing his or her hat into the race. That would be Caitlyn Jenner. 0.99
00:38:04.780 Caitlyn Jenner is reportedly exploring a run for California governor as Gavin Newsom faces this recall.
00:38:13.440 I predicted this might happen some while ago because Caitlyn Jenner is wealthy, very well-known
00:38:19.880 Republican, Republican, could create an organization and loves being on TV. So obviously, you know,
00:38:27.060 this could happen. What should we think about the prospective governor, Caitlyn Jenner? 0.55
00:38:32.960 This would not be the first time that a political leader has cross-dressed in history. This would 1.00
00:38:38.880 not be the first time. This actually happened at least one other time, way back in ancient Rome.
00:38:43.840 Now, the bad news here is that the political leader who did that was Nero, considered one of the worst
00:38:51.120 rulers ever in human history. Nero who reportedly slept with his mother and then murdered his mother
00:38:58.300 and married a freed slave. And Nero himself dressed up like the woman. He was the bride in that particular
00:39:06.380 matrimony and he was known for his kind of crazy days-long orgies and Rome burned under his watch
00:39:13.300 and he legendarily fiddled while that was happening. So, you know, we don't, okay, we don't want another
00:39:17.780 Nero. That would not be good. But the question does become, would Caitlyn Jenner be better than Gavin
00:39:24.300 Newsom? Obviously, Caitlyn Jenner would probably be pretty weak on the transgender issues. But on other 0.99
00:39:32.060 issues, he's pretty, pretty right-wing, at least relative to California. Does the Buckley rule apply here?
00:39:38.620 Should we vote for the most right, viable candidate? If we get Newsom, you're going to get all the terrible
00:39:44.120 policies, including all the terrible transgender policies. And with Caitlyn Jenner, I guess you'll get terrible 0.96
00:39:49.840 transgender policies, but you'll get decent enough other policies. Politics sure is a messy business, but it 1.00
00:39:56.360 certainly would be interesting to watch. No question about that. And I don't think conservatives should just
00:40:01.180 totally write this off because Gavin Newsom is, is a bad governor. And we'd have to see, you know,
00:40:07.440 if Caitlyn Jenner can articulate a conservative position. If Cait, I think Caitlyn Jenner's views
00:40:11.700 on transgenderism are much more conservative than the current governor of Arkansas, Asa Hutchinson.
00:40:15.820 So it would be interesting to watch play out. Speaking of eccentric people in LA, there recently was an
00:40:25.180 award show for Hollywood. You didn't watch it. I know no one did either. No one else other than I
00:40:32.120 think the actors themselves. This was the Screen Actors Guild Awards. And as ever, they're just trying
00:40:39.280 to alienate as many people as they possibly can. The winner of one of these awards, Jason Sudeikis,
00:40:46.140 wore a radical political shirt during the Zoom awards from his living room that I think carries with it.
00:40:54.800 It shows you not just what's wrong about Hollywood, but what is wrong more broadly in our politics.
00:41:03.260 Jason Sudeikis, who is some sort of actor, I don't really know what he was on. I kind of recognize his
00:41:07.940 face. He won the Screen Actors Guild Award and he gave a very nice little speech. And while he was
00:41:16.460 giving his thank you speech on Zoom, he wore a shirt that said, my body, my choice. Take a listen.
00:41:21.900 And the actor goes to Jason Sudeikis, Ted Lasso.
00:41:27.480 Oh, boy. Man, oh, man. Are you kidding me?
00:41:32.460 Wow. Thank you to all my fellow actors. I want to thank my mom for bringing me to plays and musicals
00:41:40.700 in Kansas City. Every tourney coming, it came through, whether it's Family Opera or La Caja Falls.
00:41:45.620 I want to thank my dad for taking me to go see movies. Took me to go see Beverly Hills Cop when I was nine years old.
00:41:51.820 I knew at that point I wanted to be a black cop from Detroit. I'm getting there. And again, I thank my fellow
00:41:59.800 castmates because they make me better because I just, again, have to keep up. Thank you. Again, this is very
00:42:07.540 amazing. Appreciate it.
00:42:09.780 He's wearing a shirt defending abortion during his acceptance speech. And the first thing he does is thanks
00:42:17.940 his mom. You can't make that up. If you put that in a Hollywood script, the producers would reject 0.99
00:42:23.980 that. They'd say it's too on the nose. That's too ridiculous. But that's what's happening. And at no
00:42:29.280 point did Jason Sudeikis think that there was any conflict here. This is one of the really insidious
00:42:36.080 effects of political correctness is it makes you hold conflicting views simultaneously, contradictory
00:42:43.480 views simultaneously. It's what George Orwell would call doublethink. He said that, by the way,
00:42:49.520 the totalitarian regime that he describes in 1984 relies, perhaps most importantly, on doublethink.
00:42:55.760 That is what we are seeing here. We should not fall into that trap. You know, the issue with my
00:43:01.500 body, my choice is that a lot of conservatives, putative conservatives use that line too.
00:43:06.620 That not with regard to abortion, but they'll say, you know, look, if, if, to bring it back to the
00:43:11.280 transgender issue, if, if someone wants to mutilate his body, then that's his right to do it. My body,
00:43:16.920 my choice. That's not a, that's not a conservative point of view. I guess it's a libertarian point
00:43:21.140 of view, but it's not a conservative point of view. The conservative point of view is that I don't own
00:43:26.080 my body. I don't, I didn't, I didn't create my body. I'm not, I'm not a creator. I'm a procreator,
00:43:32.280 but I'm not, I, I, I didn't create my body. I didn't choose to be born into this world.
00:43:36.100 My life was a gift. I have some responsibilities to my creator, to the moral order, to my fellow
00:43:42.900 citizens. And, uh, you know, I didn't choose how I came into this world. I'm probably not going to
00:43:45.940 choose how I had left this world. So I have to be a steward of that and recognize that I am not,
00:43:50.180 uh, all powerful. You know, Whitaker Chambers described communism as the great alternative faith
00:43:56.520 of mankind that began in the garden when the serpent said to Eve, ye shall be as gods. We, we,
00:44:01.480 we conservatives recognize we are not gods. We are not entitled to do whatever we want. And
00:44:06.200 actually that will undermine government. It will undermine self-government. We, we need to be a
00:44:10.980 little clearer about this. And I know it's hard and it requires courage because for 20 years,
00:44:16.540 the past 20 years or so, conservatives have, have distilled their philosophy down to the most
00:44:21.280 shallow version of, Hey, whatever you want to do, do it. Just don't make me pay for it.
00:44:25.240 That's not conservative. It's not coherent. It's not convincing. It hasn't worked. It hasn't
00:44:32.880 convinced people. We need to get back to making actual substantive arguments. There's a good,
00:44:38.480 a good bit of news coming out of Texas. Now I said on the show last couple of days, I've said
00:44:42.920 DeSantis is doing a good job and Tate Reeves in Mississippi, they're doing a good job at the state
00:44:49.160 level of saying, no, we are not going to permit vaccine passports. And they've said, definitely 1.00
00:44:56.800 no as a state mandate. And maybe we'll also stop the private businesses from issuing, requiring
00:45:01.920 vaccine passports too, because that's not merely a private matter. That's good. And I said, there's
00:45:05.520 27 Republican governors in this country. They all need to go on the record immediately. A lot of them
00:45:11.560 are quiet, 25 of them are pretty quiet. So just after the show, maybe he was listening,
00:45:16.420 Governor Greg Abbott in Texas came out and he said, no vaccine passport mandate in Texas.
00:45:25.180 Every day, Texans return to normalcy as more people get the COVID vaccine. In fact, this week,
00:45:34.400 Texas will surpass 13 million doses administered. Those shots help slow the spread of COVID,
00:45:41.900 reduce hospitalizations and reduce fatalities. But as I have said all along, these vaccines are
00:45:52.080 always voluntary and never forced. Government should not require any Texan to show proof of vaccination
00:46:02.560 and reveal private health information just to go about their daily lives. That is why I issued an
00:46:09.880 executive order that prohibits government mandated vaccine passports in Texas. We will continue to
00:46:17.320 vaccinate more Texans and protect public health. And we will do so without treading on Texans' personal
00:46:25.760 freedoms. Great. Good. I'm so glad to hear it. Thank you, Governor Abbott. I'm glad that the state of
00:46:31.880 Texas will not tread on Texans' personal freedoms. But that's not enough. It's a good start. So I don't
00:46:40.080 want to discourage you. You need to go further. You need to go where, I don't think any governor has
00:46:45.320 really said this on the record yet, but they've been kind of testing the waters and intimating this,
00:46:49.160 most notably DeSantis. You need to say, it's not just about the state mandating it. We're going to
00:46:54.140 stop private, allegedly private companies from requiring the vaccine passport too. We are going
00:47:01.320 to stop, in Mitch McConnell's words, what has become a sort of parallel government run by woke
00:47:08.200 corporations. I like a thriving private sector within certain boundaries set by our American
00:47:15.380 constitutional order. I really like that. But I am not an idolater of the so-called private sector
00:47:22.520 such that I would be happy if a handful of woke international corporations run our government
00:47:30.060 effectively, determine how we're going to walk around in the world, insist that I give them my
00:47:38.200 medical data and I show what vaccines I've gotten before I can go into a restaurant and have a hamburger.
00:47:44.700 No way, buddy. I ain't doing that. And so I'm glad Governor Abbott is doing this,
00:47:50.780 but he needs to follow which way the politics is going. I think finally people are waking up to this.
00:47:58.420 I hope that my book, Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds, wakes more people up to this
00:48:03.080 when it comes out at the end of June. And in the meantime, I hope conservatives get much tougher.
00:48:08.680 We need to play ball. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show. See you tomorrow.
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