The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 785 - Just Say No!

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00:00:37.580 The comedian John Lovitz is joining a chorus of entertainers speaking out against cancel culture.

00:00:43.660 And while his heart is in the right place, his argument is weak.

00:00:48.100 In a recent interview, Lovitz said that cancel culture is no different than McCarthyism.

00:00:52.160 But that isn't true.

00:00:53.060 There are lots of differences between cancel culture and McCarthyism.

00:00:57.960 Most notably, the fact that cancel culture is bad.

00:01:01.800 That would be a big difference.

00:01:02.900 Conservatives have spent a long time saying yes to the left, to the libertarians, to the libertines,

00:01:08.660 to the foreign nationals, to the multinationals, to other nations, and worst of all, 0.99

00:01:13.780 to the radicals who want to upend our entire way of life.

00:01:16.540 If we want to win, if we want to at least stop losing, conservatives need to learn to say no.

00:01:24.500 CNN is trying to mainstream another sexual deviant.

00:01:27.680 The Squishes are defending critical race theory. 0.96

00:01:30.260 And the Federal Reserve is trying to cancel the Founding Fathers.

00:01:32.900 What do we say to that?

00:01:34.360 Just say no.

00:01:36.900 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:01:37.640 This is the Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:45.720 Just say Knowles.

00:01:48.820 No.

00:01:49.300 Knowles.

00:01:49.740 Knowles.

00:01:50.160 I don't know.

00:01:50.620 Maybe there's a relation.

00:01:52.060 My favorite comment yesterday from Josh Kelly, who says,

00:01:54.540 Man, I bet Putin is steaming.

00:01:57.480 Biden just called him a worthy adversary.

00:02:00.780 I'll give Biden one thing.

00:02:02.340 He sure knows how to hit a man below the belt.

00:02:04.580 I know.

00:02:04.920 Thank you for picking up on this.

00:02:06.120 This is one of the most preposterous claims of the left, amid many preposterous claims.

00:02:11.100 They claim that babies aren't babies.

00:02:12.540 They claim that men are women.

00:02:13.800 And yet one of the most preposterous claims they make is that they're the ones that are tough on Russia.

00:02:19.000 They just spent a century sucking up to Russian communists at every turn, 0.59

00:02:24.360 covering up for Russian communists in their newspapers,

00:02:27.400 trying to create alliances with them politically, trying to pursue detente with them.

00:02:31.780 And now Republicans are the ones who collude with Russia.

00:02:35.480 Absolutely.

00:02:37.080 Preposterous.

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00:03:48.200 Cancel culture is just like McCarthyism.

00:03:50.880 No, it's not.

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00:04:19.060 That would be one big difference.

00:04:20.320 Obviously, cancel culture is different than McCarthyism.

00:04:22.620 For one example, the people who are being canceled are very different.

00:04:26.680 The views that are being canceled are very different.

00:04:29.280 One view, pretty pro-American.

00:04:31.100 One view, pretty anti-American.

00:04:32.300 John Lovett says, we can't do that.

00:04:35.760 He says, quote, as soon as you say to a comedian like me, you can't say that.

00:04:39.500 The first thing in my head is, oh, and now I have to.

00:04:42.240 Okay, you'll hear a lot of comedians say this and it makes perfect sense.

00:04:45.300 You push boundaries.

00:04:46.400 You say things that are taboo and incongruous and that gets a laugh.

00:04:49.220 But does that mean that you should just be able to say whatever you want at any time without any question or limitation?

00:04:55.940 Not even John Lovett says that.

00:04:57.580 In his very next breath, he says, oh, yeah, and now I have to.

00:05:01.100 I've got to say the thing you tell me I can't say.

00:05:03.240 But, but there's a difference between making jokes and being outright mean.

00:05:08.780 So he's saying, even for him, even for a comedian, there are limits to what he will say.

00:05:13.480 Of course, there are always limits.

00:05:15.260 Every society has taboos.

00:05:17.600 The question is not, do you have taboos or do you not have taboos?

00:05:21.100 That's a, that's a stupid question because we're always going to have taboos.

00:05:24.200 We're always going to say some things are off limits.

00:05:26.180 I know that there are some idealistic, utopian, libertarian, I don't know what term you want to use, who say, no, there's no limits whatsoever, but it's just silly.

00:05:37.340 That's not true.

00:05:38.260 That has never been true.

00:05:39.160 That never will be true.

00:05:40.980 Even the comedians are admitting there are limits.

00:05:43.060 So what are those limits going to be?

00:05:46.560 Over in Iowa, the governor has just banned critical race theory.

00:05:50.940 There have been multiple bans you've seen in Florida.

00:05:52.900 You've seen it in a lot of places right now.

00:05:54.640 Critical race theory.

00:05:57.320 Kim Reynolds, governor of Iowa, signed that bill that says that if you teach in such a way as to assign fault, blame, or bias to a race or sex or to members of a race or sex because of their race or sex, you can't do that in the classroom.

00:06:11.320 Good stuff.

00:06:11.900 I strongly support that.

00:06:13.280 Critical race theory, of course, a derivation of critical theory, which is a huge part of the politically correct slash woke project that has brought us to our current state of censorship, which you can read about in my upcoming book, Speechless Controlling Words, Controlling Minds, which is available now for pre-order.

00:06:27.420 The point here is we need to dig in.

00:06:32.480 It's not enough to say, yes, you say this.

00:06:34.760 Yes, you do that.

00:06:35.560 Yes, whatever you want.

00:06:36.480 We're the party of freedom.

00:06:37.780 Freedom, much like poetry, requires limitations.

00:06:41.260 That's where the freedom and the flourishing comes from.

00:06:43.440 Now, there are some misguided conservatives and former conservatives who are saying this is terrible.

00:06:49.980 You've got to be very careful.

00:06:51.560 You shouldn't be banning critical race theory in the classroom.

00:06:54.780 The founding fathers are rolling over in their graves.

00:06:57.820 First of all, the founding fathers banned all this sorts of stuff, okay?

00:07:00.580 Let's not forget, within just a few years of the existence of our republic, our second president and one of our most conservative presidents, John Adams, passed the Alien and Sedition Acts, which criminalized making false statements about the federal government.

00:07:13.740 Parts of those laws still exist today.

00:07:16.140 A lot of it was gotten rid of, but some of it still exists today.

00:07:19.820 There are all sorts of laws that have prescribed this kind of speech.

00:07:23.240 But now we are to believe that critical race theory is just the sort of thing that Americans must defend.

00:07:29.380 But, of course, you're hearing this from people such as David French, who are former Republicans or former conservatives who are now, I don't know how David would describe himself now, but he spends most of his time, you'll notice, criticizing people on the right.

00:07:44.100 You're also hearing this, though, from quite serious conservative professors.

00:07:49.220 I'm thinking of Robbie George at Princeton, who has been a conservative leader for many years.

00:07:54.520 He's done very good work.

00:07:55.780 I don't agree with him on everything, but he's done very good work.

00:07:58.300 He tweeted out, quote, and it would seem that this is in direct response to the critical race theory bans.

00:08:04.280 He tweeted out, it's quite simple.

00:08:06.680 No view or school of thought is banned.

00:08:09.800 No view or school of thought is given a monopoly, formerly or informally, or immunized from criticism.

00:08:15.260 Views and schools of thought are defended and criticized by giving reasons, providing evidence, or making arguments.

00:08:22.520 That is simply not true.

00:08:24.780 That is not true.

00:08:25.760 I can't tell if Robbie George knows that this is not true, but is trying to carve out some space in the university for conservative points of view.

00:08:35.100 He's done a very good job of that at Princeton.

00:08:36.840 So maybe he's trying to pretend that what he just said is true so that the liberals are more likely to give him some space to run, for instance, the James Madison program or to hire more conservative faculty members.

00:08:47.080 I don't know.

00:08:47.460 If that's the case, tactically, it's probably smart, but as an objective matter, what he just said is not true.

00:08:53.300 There are plenty of views that are completely off limits that are, there are plenty of views that are given a monopoly, actually, in various institutions.

00:09:00.440 And those views tend to just be derivations of the broader leftist ideology.

00:09:08.680 Many of them, some are immunized from criticism and some are prohibited.

00:09:12.780 As Bill Buckley famously stated in God and Man at Yale, the Yale Department of Sociology would never hire an Aryan supremacist to teach about the glories of white people in the university, nor should they.

00:09:26.840 That the university would not do that.

00:09:28.180 They should not do that.

00:09:29.060 That view is prohibited.

00:09:30.760 Many, many views are prohibited from the university, as they must be.

00:09:35.040 The university has a mission.

00:09:36.800 All classrooms have a mission.

00:09:38.080 They teach some things, and by teaching some things, they exclude other things.

00:09:42.240 If you teach that two plus two equals four, you are necessarily teaching that two plus two does not equal five.

00:09:47.520 This is true of history, philosophy, religion, ethics, science, everything.

00:09:54.000 Okay.

00:09:54.480 Now, interestingly, I think David French makes the more sophisticated criticism here of the critical race theory bans.

00:10:02.680 He's saying, look, some of these critical race theory bans are so broad that you're going to end up shooting yourself in the foot

00:10:07.300 and banning speech that even you would support.

00:10:10.360 So some of the critical race theory bans are creating protections from criticism in the classroom for religions, for other things that are creeds, whatever that means.

00:10:21.880 So if you have a protection for a creed, is that protecting communism from criticism?

00:10:26.160 Obviously, we wouldn't want to do that.

00:10:27.660 So I actually agree with David French's criticism there.

00:10:30.160 You want to be very specific.

00:10:32.060 We're not banning from the classroom all sorts of criticism of all sorts of things.

00:10:36.620 We are specifically banning this radical, stupid, ugly, false theory called critical race theory, which is a derivation of the broader critical theory project.

00:10:49.120 What is critical race theory?

00:10:50.360 We all use this term, and yet people don't seem to know what it means.

00:10:56.900 Well, you can read the academic literature on it.

00:11:00.400 It's developed by this woman, Kimberly Crenshaw, or a number of other people who have contributed to this particular subset of critical theory.

00:11:07.160 But it's probably easier just to watch a video on what critical theory looks like in action.

00:11:11.480 Here is Ashley Shackelford, a, quote, queer, agender, black, fat femme writer, artist, and cultural producer.

00:11:19.240 She is giving a lesson through the analytical lens of critical race theory to a group of deluded and poor white people. 0.81

00:11:28.320 I think it's sort of a mixed, mixed crowd here.

00:11:30.320 This is what CRT looks and sounds like in practice.

00:11:34.180 White people are racist. 0.73

00:11:35.300 So, I put this up because I really want any white person in the room to know up front that this is what we're dealing with, that it's not going to be this coddling of white tears and what that looks like.

00:11:47.800 We're not going to discuss, oh, maybe some of us have worked it out.

00:11:50.900 No, you're always going to be racist, actually.

00:11:52.980 So, even when you're on your path to trying to figure out how to be a better human being, because I believe that white people are born into not being human, like that actually instead of people of color and black folks being dehumanized, that actually everyone is dehumanized off rip within white supremacy, that y'all are born into a life to not be human.

00:12:13.680 And that's what y'all are taught to do, to be demons.

00:12:16.360 So, in this particular way, white people are all racist.

00:12:20.580 There you have it.

00:12:21.840 There is the lesson.

00:12:22.540 Did you take notes?

00:12:23.400 I hope you took notes, so that you can crumple them up and throw them in the fire.

00:12:26.960 This sort of stuff is not just valueless.

00:12:30.580 This sort of woman doesn't just have nothing of value to say. 0.97

00:12:34.920 This sort of stuff is bad for your brain.

00:12:38.740 It's bad for your mind.

00:12:39.960 It's anti-education.

00:12:41.640 It's making you dumber and less well-behaved and less sophisticated.

00:12:46.760 It needs to be banned from the classroom like you would ban poison from your recipes.

00:12:51.860 It is so, so stupid.

00:12:54.380 There is no free marketplace.

00:12:56.140 First of all, there is no free marketplace of ideas in the classroom, period.

00:13:00.840 That's a hoax.

00:13:01.660 That's a farce.

00:13:02.460 Another insight of William F. Buckley Jr.

00:13:04.900 People set the curricula.

00:13:06.220 The Harvard law professor, Adrian Vermeule, just pointed this out the other day.

00:13:08.820 For the love of God, people, the high school classroom is not the free marketplace of ideas.

00:13:15.080 It's a place to convey certain information and to convey education, a coercive act with

00:13:20.440 curricula that are set by school boards and by politicians and by administrators.

00:13:25.000 It is not this free-flowing place of debate.

00:13:28.060 That's not how it works in practice.

00:13:29.300 It's not even how it works in theory.

00:13:31.080 You need to say no.

00:13:35.080 I know we only want to say yes and be the nice inclusive guys.

00:13:38.040 To something like critical race theory, to all white people are racist and they're demons,

00:13:41.380 you have to say no.

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00:14:52.880 What is being taught in our classrooms, not just elementary, middle, high school, not

00:15:01.480 just certain kooky universities.

00:15:03.380 What is being taught in the Ivy League, what is supposed to be the pinnacle, the elite of

00:15:11.020 American education is so radical that a defector from North Korea has been scandalized by the

00:15:22.300 brainwashing in those classrooms.

00:15:23.960 So I went to Columbia University in 2016.

00:15:27.180 In 2016, I transferred from South Korean University.

00:15:29.940 So when I was at school, though, you know, I was excited about like learning about history and you know, how the people thought back then.

00:15:38.000 And one of the person at orientation was asking who loves Jane Austen and who reads these classical books.

00:15:48.380 And I was like, I love those books.

00:15:50.120 I just thought I thought it was a good thing.

00:15:51.660 Right. And then she was like, did you know that those writers who had a colonial mindset were racist and bigots who wrote their books?

00:15:59.420 So they are subconsciously brainwashing you.

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00:16:17.360 And I was starting worrying about this country.

00:16:20.660 Mainstream education is purposefully designed to not make, resent this Western democracy.

00:16:27.620 So pretty startling observations from a Korea from the most repressive regime on Earth who says, good grief, man. 0.87

00:16:37.500 This place is pretty bad at the university.

00:16:40.060 This woman has survived the most deluded brainwashed regime on the planet. 1.00

00:16:47.120 And she says, man, this brainwashing at the university is really gives old Kim Jong Un a run for his money.

00:16:52.980 And that's true.

00:16:53.860 Now, what she, I think, fails to recognize is what, it's the same mistake that so many conservatives, they tend to be the squishy types of conservatives, fail to recognize.

00:17:06.140 Which is they say, this typical expression, we shouldn't teach students what to think.

00:17:11.460 We should teach them how to think.

00:17:13.380 Sure, but you can't teach someone how to think unless you teach them what to think.

00:17:21.360 You can't teach them how to think about calculus if you don't teach them that two plus two equals four.

00:17:27.140 To get back to our earlier example, you can't teach them how to think about history until you teach them that America declares dependence in 1776.

00:17:35.380 1776, and the Civil War breaks out in 1860, and Ronald Reagan gets elected in 1980.

00:17:41.600 You can't tell them how to think about these things until you tell them certain facts about it.

00:17:47.300 And when you tell them facts, you're stating this is true and this is false.

00:17:49.940 Here is what you should think.

00:17:52.920 That's a fact.

00:17:54.100 Figure it out, get used to it, or keep losing ground.

00:17:58.220 A topic I discuss at great length in my upcoming book, Speechless Controlling Words, Controlling Minds.

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00:18:04.000 Oh my gosh.

00:18:06.160 There is always going to be a perspective.

00:18:10.600 There is always going to be a bias.

00:18:13.400 Now, sometimes that perspective is closer to the truth.

00:18:17.860 Sometimes that perspective is farther away from the truth.

00:18:22.440 Sometimes there are different perspectives on the same event, and they have considerable or comparable value.

00:18:29.420 Sometimes one perspective is correct, and one perspective is incorrect.

00:18:34.700 I'll give you an example of bias.

00:18:36.960 Because it's not just in some classroom at Brown University.

00:18:40.500 It's in the Federal Reserve, for goodness sakes.

00:18:43.480 The Federal Reserve has now discouraged the use of offensive words, such as, wait for it, founding fathers.

00:18:55.680 No, not the N-word, not the this word, not the that.

00:18:59.560 I mean, I assume those are banned too.

00:19:01.320 But no, the F-word, the two F-words, founding fathers, the Federal Reserve, now says, no bueno.

00:19:10.040 Quote, try to avoid words and phrases that may be considered offensive, pejorative, or prejudiced.

00:19:15.640 Whatever that.

00:19:16.120 The transformation of the word prejudice from something that is actually quite good and reliable in the sense used by Edmund Burke to this awful, evil, terrible thing is an amazing transformation in and of itself.

00:19:30.020 But they say these words can distract your audience from the ideas or information you're trying to convey.

00:19:34.400 The bias terms to be avoided include blacklist, can't do that, it's offensive to black people.

00:19:41.300 Grandfathered, that you can't do that, that's a racist term too.

00:19:43.980 How, we would need some more time to describe that silliness.

00:19:48.400 And founding fathers.

00:19:50.580 Also, instead of that, you should use terms like denied instead of blacklist.

00:19:55.260 Legacy instead of grandfather.

00:19:57.300 And founders instead of founding fathers.

00:19:59.500 Because if you said founding fathers, that would imply that virtually all of the founders were men.

00:20:04.640 And that's true, but it's offensive apparently, so you're not allowed to say it.

00:20:09.220 The Fed also says that the terms white-listed, it's bad, it's racist.

00:20:13.740 Man power, sexist.

00:20:15.060 Man made, sexist.

00:20:16.220 Even though man is a gender-neutral term.

00:20:18.240 In the beginning, God created man, both male and female, he created them.

00:20:21.060 Nope, not allowed to say that.

00:20:23.280 Singular generic pronouns are to be avoided.

00:20:25.840 So if you say, hey, I like John, he's a nice guy.

00:20:29.660 Boom, nope, sorry, time to come in for re-education.

00:20:33.100 You should say, according to them, they, to refer to one person.

00:20:38.640 I like John, they is a nice person.

00:20:40.720 You're supposed to say that.

00:20:41.600 Unless you speak like somebody who has never taken an English class in his life, 0.97

00:20:46.720 you are apparently giving offense.

00:20:49.580 Why?

00:20:50.320 So that you don't convey bias in your language.

00:20:54.260 You know, when I read these terms, these new terms that the Fed wants to use,

00:21:00.680 they seem pretty biased to me.

00:21:03.540 The bias, especially on the singular use of they, the bias being against grammar.

00:21:09.880 It's anti-grammar.

00:21:11.060 It's nonsense supremacist.

00:21:13.200 The bias being in favor of radical gender ideology that says that there's no difference between men and

00:21:18.280 women, the bias being in favor of this radical idea that America is a wicked, awful, terrible, 1.00

00:21:24.200 sexist, racist, awful, whatever place.

00:21:26.560 That's a bias.

00:21:28.280 That's a radical bias.

00:21:29.500 So let's try to get the bias out of that language.

00:21:31.280 How could you do it?

00:21:32.180 You're not allowed to use the one term because it's biased.

00:21:34.020 You're not allowed to use the other term because it's biased.

00:21:35.880 There's always going to be, it would seem, some kind of perspective conveyed.

00:21:41.060 There is no such thing as neutrality.

00:21:44.960 That is the worst error that the squishes have foisted on us over the last 15 or 20 years 0.80

00:21:51.860 is the lie that secular liberalism is somehow a neutral playing field on which conservatives

00:21:59.500 and the left and the right and the left, they can just sort of equally duke it out.

00:22:03.440 No, we're playing on the left's ground.

00:22:05.280 We're accepting all of their most important premises.

00:22:07.740 So no wonder that we're going to lose.

00:22:10.080 And unfortunately, many of the squishes I think would prefer to lose.

00:22:13.380 They feel much better about losing with dignity, they say.

00:22:16.340 They're very undignified.

00:22:17.940 They feel better about that because they don't need to take on any moral risk.

00:22:21.380 Because they don't exhibit courage.

00:22:26.140 But there's always going to be some kind of bias and it's never going to end.

00:22:29.780 The revolution is going to eat itself.

00:22:32.280 Even Tom Hanks.

00:22:33.620 Tom Hanks, once the most trusted, best liked man in the country, according to polls, is

00:22:41.720 canceled.

00:22:42.860 He is, or they're at least trying to cancel him.

00:22:44.500 Tom Hanks is a super lib, super duper lib.

00:22:48.680 Raises money for Democrats.

00:22:50.180 He just recently, just a couple of weeks ago, wrote a neurotic essay for the New York Times

00:22:54.520 about the Tulsa race riot and how white people need to feel bad or something.

00:22:58.260 But he's not, he's not anti-racist, the left contends.

00:23:03.640 He's not racist, but he's not anti-racist.

00:23:06.860 And frankly, if you ask me, that's just as bad as being a racist.

00:23:10.680 Race, race, race.

00:23:11.140 I don't even know, I don't even know what that means anymore.

00:23:12.820 Now, in the author's defense, the author who accused Tom Hanks, rather, of not being anti-racist.

00:23:20.700 Tom Hanks is the father of Chet Hanks, and Chet Hanks did formally declare white boy summer.

00:23:29.540 Hey guys, look, I just wanted to tap in really quick.

00:23:32.700 I just got this feeling, man, that this summer is, it's about to be a white boy summer. 0.88

00:23:41.140 You know, take it how you want.

00:23:42.440 I'm not talking about like Trump, you know, NASCAR type white. 0.73

00:23:46.440 I'm talking about, you know, you know, me, John B, Jack Harlow type white boy summer.

00:23:54.340 You know what I mean?

00:23:54.660 Let me know if you guys can vibe with that and get ready, you know, because I am.

00:24:01.120 I am too, Chet.

00:24:02.760 Man, Chet, sign me up.

00:24:04.500 I don't, do I count?

00:24:05.340 I don't know.

00:24:05.760 I'm a little, especially during the summer, I get quite, quite dark.

00:24:08.460 But if I can be vibing with you and Mr. Harlow, and then absolutely sign me up.

00:24:14.600 Watching that video, I do wonder, have Chet and Tom Hanks ever spoken to one another?

00:24:22.260 Can you imagine, can you just close your eyes and imagine a situation in which Chet and Tom

00:24:27.200 Hanks have a conversation?

00:24:29.020 Because I, I can't imagine that, but I would very much like to.

00:24:32.960 It is, it would be a very funny conversation.

00:24:34.560 So anyway, okay.

00:24:36.280 Chet Hanks, the founder of white boy summer.

00:24:38.740 Is Tom's son.

00:24:40.220 But that's not why.

00:24:41.360 That is not the reason that the left is angry at Tom Hanks for not being anti-racist.

00:24:47.740 The reason is that in his career, his gigantic, long-lasting film career, Tom Hanks has played

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00:27:04.800 We'll be right back with a lot more.

00:27:15.180 This article going around saying that Tom Hanks is not an anti-racist.

00:27:26.060 That is why the left is upset with him right now.

00:27:29.200 This is the thesis.

00:27:30.680 This is his big transgression.

00:27:33.060 Quote, over the years, Tom Hanks has starred in a lot of big movies about historical events,

00:27:37.660 including Saving Private Ryan, Greyhound, Forrest Gump, Apollo 13, Bridge of Spies, and News of the World.

00:27:42.680 He has served as a producer or executive producer on even more films and TV shows based on American

00:27:47.980 history, including Band of Brothers, The Pacific, John Adams, and From the Earth to the Moon.

00:27:53.440 He was an executive producer of documentaries such as The Assassination of President Kennedy

00:27:57.380 and The 60s on CNN.

00:27:59.860 In other words, he is a baby boomer star who has built a sizable part of his career on stories

00:28:06.600 about American white men doing the right thing.

00:28:09.440 And that's the problem, apparently.

00:28:15.480 Apparently, right now, in our culture, it is not permissible to believe that white men can do the right thing.

00:28:28.520 Because this apparently erases, that's the verb they like, it erases black voices and the voices of women. 1.00

00:28:36.880 And do you remember some years ago now, not that long ago, there was the Daniel Day-Lewis Lincoln movie.

00:28:44.020 And this was protested by people on the far left because it suggested that Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves.

00:28:52.060 Which, obviously, he did.

00:28:53.860 But they didn't like that because the far left said, no, no, no, the slaves freed themselves.

00:28:57.960 You're erasing the contributions of black people and women and I don't know, whoever.

00:29:03.000 Tibetans, I don't think they were involved, but it's got to be everybody other than a white guy.

00:29:06.160 And it's just not true.

00:29:08.220 Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves.

00:29:09.560 He did it.

00:29:10.120 It was him.

00:29:10.680 It was basically only him.

00:29:12.080 It was him and all the soldiers, overwhelmingly white, who he called into battle.

00:29:17.000 That's what happened.

00:29:18.000 That's a nice thing, isn't that?

00:29:18.980 In a society where we think about our past, we think about our future, we're bound together as countrymen.

00:29:26.300 Isn't that a nice thing to say one group of people did a thing for another group of people?

00:29:30.120 Well, we're not allowed to believe that anymore because everything has to be focused only on, one, the tyranny of our own will and our own ability to save ourselves without accepting grace from anybody else.

00:29:42.400 And everything has to be about vicious racism and division.

00:29:46.280 And no group of people can ever do anything for another group of people.

00:29:52.260 Tom Hanks canceled, at least according to the far left.

00:29:55.800 He'll probably survive it.

00:29:56.720 He's powerful enough.

00:29:57.440 But the thesis, I think, is much more widespread.

00:30:02.020 Kevin Hart pointed this out.

00:30:04.780 How silly this is.

00:30:06.080 I guess on the topic of cancel culture.

00:30:07.640 Because Kevin Hart famously was going to host the Oscars and then they dug up some gay joke he made 10 years ago.

00:30:13.120 And apparently, Kevin Hart, you know, is the only comedian who ever made a gay joke.

00:30:16.820 Right?

00:30:17.020 I mean, I know that statistically, 100% of everyone who's ever lived has made a gay joke.

00:30:24.340 But Kevin Hart, a professional comedian, not allowed to do that.

00:30:28.440 So they axed him from the Oscars.

00:30:30.180 And he was a victim of cancel culture with that question.

00:30:33.380 And he said, if people want to pull up stuff, go back to the same old tweets, same tweets of old, go ahead.

00:30:38.740 There is nothing I can do.

00:30:39.940 You're looking at a younger version of myself, a comedian trying to be funny and at that attempt failing.

00:30:44.120 I don't know that he was failing.

00:30:45.300 Sometimes he failed.

00:30:45.980 Sometimes he didn't.

00:30:46.900 Sometimes the jokes were offensive.

00:30:48.060 Sometimes they were less offensive.

00:30:49.580 Some of the jokes that were offensive, that are offensive today that weren't then are no longer funny.

00:30:53.660 And some of them are.

00:30:54.680 Comedy is a complicated thing.

00:30:56.580 Apologies were made.

00:30:57.540 I understand now how it comes off.

00:30:58.960 I look back and cringe.

00:31:00.020 So it's growth.

00:31:00.680 It's about growth.

00:31:01.400 Here's the money line.

00:31:03.860 When did we get to a point where life was supposed to be perfect?

00:31:09.300 Where people were supposed to operate perfectly all the time?

00:31:12.160 I don't understand.

00:31:13.280 I don't expect perfection from my kids.

00:31:15.400 I don't expect it from my wife and friends and employees.

00:31:17.880 Because last I checked, the only way you grow up is effing up.

00:31:21.680 I don't know a kid who hasn't effed up or done some dumb stuff.

00:31:26.580 Of course.

00:31:27.540 Of course he's right.

00:31:30.000 We got to the point where everybody had to be perfect when we abandoned Christianity as our motivating religion in this country. 0.92

00:31:38.820 All societies have religious views.

00:31:40.680 Because that also is inevitable.

00:31:42.320 Just like the inevitability of standards in our speech, the inevitability of some kind of religious view is an eternal fact of society.

00:31:51.540 You can take that one to the bank.

00:31:53.600 Okay?

00:31:53.780 And when we gave up on the Christian understanding of human nature and of society and of our eternal selves, then everybody had to be perfect. 0.82

00:32:06.600 Because then we couldn't make sense of original sin.

00:32:10.060 We've transformed the idea of original sin into this idea of white supremacy or racism.

00:32:15.360 Which is just a very stupid way of talking about original sin.

00:32:18.380 I mean, you hear this.

00:32:19.240 People will say this explicitly.

00:32:20.240 The President of the United States will say, slavery and racism is America's original sin.

00:32:25.520 And that's just not true.

00:32:26.700 Original sin is America's original sin. 0.71

00:32:29.400 And slavery is a bad thing that happened.

00:32:32.200 That was rectified.

00:32:34.480 Sooner here than in most other places.

00:32:36.100 And it existed here for a shorter period of time than virtually anywhere else on earth.

00:32:39.320 And it continues to exist outside of Western civilization.

00:32:42.620 But we are told this is a uniquely American prize.

00:32:44.920 It's just silly.

00:32:45.660 The reason that we think that, though, is because we no longer have a way of grappling with the fact that we are not perfect.

00:32:50.440 We are flawed.

00:32:51.220 The things we want to do, we do not do.

00:32:52.940 The things that we don't want to do, we do.

00:32:55.060 Because of sin and temptation and the fallenness of man.

00:32:58.440 We keep trying to deny that.

00:33:00.460 We're trying to deny death, which is the consequence of sin.

00:33:03.080 We're trying to become, first of all, we've all become neurotic health nuts.

00:33:06.800 But we're also trying to deny the possibility of death.

00:33:09.520 You hear all of these futurists talk about how we're going to upload our brains to the clouds.

00:33:12.680 And live forever and massively extend our lives.

00:33:15.220 I think it's a fool's errand.

00:33:16.860 But even if you could do it, even if you could find immortality on earth, I wouldn't want it.

00:33:22.680 Because my view is still, you know, that old Christian view.

00:33:25.780 Ever ancient, ever new.

00:33:27.360 But because we've lost that now, everybody's got to be perfect.

00:33:30.740 And yet, you'll notice, while everybody can get canceled, and a great many people do get canceled,

00:33:40.280 some chosen few, the anointed, the elect of the liberal ruling establishment, get a second life.

00:33:50.480 They get a whole new career, a whole new life.

00:33:54.620 Such as Katie Hill.

00:33:56.700 So, just this week, CNN is rehabilitating two sexual deviants.

00:34:01.760 Two of the most prominently exposed, as it were, sexual deviants in the country.

00:34:07.320 Jeffrey Toobin.

00:34:08.740 That was yesterday.

00:34:10.320 And Katie Hill.

00:34:11.740 Katie Hill was caught having, in a thruple.

00:34:15.640 So, thruple, you know, she was in a kind of menage with her husband, then husband, and one of her staffers.

00:34:22.520 And it wasn't, we talk about a totally consensual thing.

00:34:25.300 First of all, if it were a man having an affair with his staffer, that would be massive news, especially if that man were a Republican.

00:34:32.840 Huge abuse of power, it would be called intrinsically sexual harassment, intrinsically compromising consent.

00:34:39.140 But because it's Katie Hill and she's a liberal woman, she gets a pass for it. 0.99

00:34:42.120 But then the staffer woman was apparently really hurt by this whole thing, especially when Katie Hill broke it off. 1.00

00:34:48.240 And it was just, it was very, very ugly, even by the standards of ordinary affairs and sexual impropriety.

00:34:57.460 So Katie Hill, she got booted. 1.00

00:34:58.960 She had to resign from Congress.

00:35:00.120 Now she wants to run again.

00:35:02.020 She's trying to cast herself as the victim. 1.00

00:35:04.380 And CNN is helping her along.

00:35:05.660 You have been leading an effort since you left Congress to deal with the issue of revenge porn and on the Violence Against Women Act and really these issues altogether about what women endure and should not endure.

00:35:25.600 Will you run again?

00:35:26.340 Listen, I haven't written anything off.

00:35:30.260 The last two years have, well, year and a half have been really, you know, tragic and important for my family and for me in terms of figuring out what the next steps are.

00:35:40.060 And right now I need to figure out my role in making sure that this gets passed, helping women run for and get elected to office. 0.99

00:35:49.660 Literally none of that will matter.

00:35:50.380 Doesn't that make you want to get back in the arena?

00:35:52.560 You know, I sometimes, but sometimes I wonder, you know, maybe my role is more important on the outside.

00:35:59.660 So I'm still definitely on that kind of, you know, figuring it out.

00:36:04.120 So Katie Hill is making herself out to be the victim of some great injustice.

00:36:11.680 The injustice she says that she was a victim of is being exposed for committing injustices.

00:36:18.080 It's got it's an amazing trick.

00:36:20.040 You got to be a pretty slick politician to pull this one.

00:36:24.320 We need to stop this revenge porn, whatever revenge porn is if your boyfriend has photos of you or your husband, I guess, in this case, has compromising photos of you that they shouldn't be released.

00:36:33.760 Of course, it's very wrong to release these sorts of things.

00:36:36.840 But we have to recognize you shouldn't be doing these sorts of things either.

00:36:41.940 It's not the injustice is not just that the husband exposed Katie Hill in many ways for having this affair with her staffer.

00:36:53.540 The injustice is that she had the affair.

00:36:55.980 But that's her private life, Michael.

00:36:57.400 Now, it's the same issue with Jeffrey Toobin.

00:37:00.380 The problem is not just that he did it in public.

00:37:04.060 The problem is that he did it in private too.

00:37:08.660 And we need to be willing to say no to certain kinds of private behavior that are destructive and that harm individuals and that harm society.

00:37:20.260 I know we're not allowed to say that anymore.

00:37:21.460 The simplest one, the lowest hanging fruit, would be porn.

00:37:26.860 And not just revenge porn, not just child porn, not just other forms of illegal porn that are currently illegal.

00:37:34.100 Porn in general, the sort of stuff that Jeffrey Toobin may have taken a look or two at.

00:37:40.760 In this country, we have always had laws against porn.

00:37:44.480 We still have them.

00:37:45.460 There are obscenity laws.

00:37:46.740 As recently as 2009, a federal judge sent a pornographer to the clink for four years almost just for obscenity.

00:37:55.020 That's it.

00:37:55.600 He didn't commit any other crime.

00:37:57.880 He wasn't convicted of any other crime.

00:38:00.300 Just for being so obscene, he got sent to the clink.

00:38:03.740 That's good.

00:38:04.320 The people who are clamoring to regulate or ban porn outright, you'd think it's some old fuddy-duddy, right?

00:38:12.980 It's not.

00:38:13.340 It's Gen Z. 0.90

00:38:14.120 It's not even the millennials.

00:38:15.060 It's Gen Z. 0.90

00:38:15.740 It's this younger generation where the millennials at least got to grow up at least for some period of time without internet porn all over the place.

00:38:24.060 Gen Z did not. 0.99

00:38:24.900 Gen Z has had devices in their hands since they were three years old. 0.95

00:38:28.640 And many have written into this show.

00:38:30.900 I mean, you've heard it in the mailbag and elsewhere of people saying, Michael, I'm 18 years old and porn has ruined my life.

00:38:35.080 They're the ones calling.

00:38:35.920 They have an experience of it.

00:38:37.080 The private actually has some role.

00:38:40.400 And the squishy, very often boomer conservatives will say, well, look, you know, we're just the party of yes.

00:38:46.020 We're the party of yes, do whatever you want.

00:38:47.980 Just don't make me pay for it.

00:38:49.040 You know, you can do whatever sick, crazy, Katie Hill, Jeffrey Toobin style stuff you want to do to yourself.

00:38:54.780 Just don't make me pay for it.

00:38:56.160 But that's a very shallow political philosophy.

00:38:58.660 It has very little to do with the broader conservative tradition.

00:39:01.820 And it clearly has not worked.

00:39:04.120 It's just a purely political matter.

00:39:05.740 We've lost ground on basically every major issue in my lifetime.

00:39:10.680 Maybe the answer is to start saying no.

00:39:14.520 Gee, how crazy this is, speaking of girls of ill repute.

00:39:18.800 There's a high school in Sacramento, California, the Performing and Fine Arts High School.

00:39:23.580 They apparently had something of a dress code. 1.00

00:39:25.840 It wasn't like you have to wear these uniforms.

00:39:27.280 It was just a little bit of a dress code saying you can't wear clothing that is too provocative

00:39:31.380 and you can't be exposing yourself all the time.

00:39:33.860 That's wrong.

00:39:35.660 So a TikTok has gone viral.

00:39:38.400 We won't play the TikTok.

00:39:39.600 I might have legal issues if I play this TikTok.

00:39:42.540 I don't know why.

00:39:43.420 I haven't seen it.

00:39:44.300 The cops are watching.

00:39:45.400 I haven't clicked any links.

00:39:47.100 I don't want to watch this.

00:39:48.960 But this sort of thing is going viral.

00:39:50.940 Okay.

00:39:51.700 And the protest leader says the school principal was going to have an assembly

00:39:57.140 on dress code.

00:39:58.460 So in response, we wore crop tops to protest.

00:40:01.560 It was a day-long process.

00:40:02.900 We showed up in crop tops and they started dressing, dress coding people.

00:40:06.780 The dress code is sexist toward women and perpetuates rape culture.

00:40:09.520 It makes us very uncomfortable.

00:40:11.840 We as students feel like what we wear is not distracting toward others or affecting anyone's

00:40:15.800 learning environment.

00:40:16.520 So I'm being only slightly hyperbolic about what these girls were wearing. 0.91

00:40:20.100 They weren't wearing anything that would be considered illegal, right?

00:40:23.000 They weren't totally exposing themselves.

00:40:24.380 They were just wearing clothing that is distracting for high school boys.

00:40:28.740 I say this as a former high school boy, okay?

00:40:30.600 And so the school came in and said, no, you can't do that.

00:40:32.720 You got to cover your midriff.

00:40:34.360 You got to, you can't do that sort of stuff.

00:40:37.660 What this girl is saying here, we as students feel like what we wear is not distracting toward

00:40:42.700 others.

00:40:43.200 Her perception is just simply false.

00:40:45.520 It is.

00:40:46.600 Okay.

00:40:46.760 I actually remember this.

00:40:48.020 Yoga pants were really popular when I was in high school.

00:40:49.900 And I remember I was sitting there taking some standardized test and I, women were wearing, 0.97

00:40:54.280 the girls were wearing yoga pants. 1.00

00:40:56.400 And I thought, this is an unfair advantage for women on this test. 1.00

00:40:59.540 They're going to do better on this test than men because all the boys are going to be distracted

00:41:04.240 by the girls wearing clothing.

00:41:05.820 It's very provocative.

00:41:06.600 And the girls aren't going to be distracted by us.

00:41:08.540 We're not, you know, we're not exactly, you know, attracting their attention right now.

00:41:12.400 That's an unfair advantage.

00:41:13.620 And of course this is true in all of, it's just like the free speech issue.

00:41:18.460 No, so what these girls were wearing is not against the law, but there are standards and 0.98

00:41:22.460 you have the right to enforce standards.

00:41:24.360 This is true of clothing.

00:41:25.720 This is true of what you say.

00:41:27.420 This is, this is true of how we live.

00:41:29.740 We need certain boundaries.

00:41:32.060 Those are inevitable.

00:41:33.100 There's always going to be some kind of boundary.

00:41:34.700 The question is who is going to set them?

00:41:38.340 The consequence of the radical sexual ideology is not just the radical race ideology that you

00:41:44.440 see in critical race theory, but there's a radical sexual ideology on campus. 1.00

00:41:47.980 The consequence of that is not clarity.

00:41:51.540 It's not discovery.

00:41:52.960 It's not education.

00:41:54.980 It's confusion.

00:41:56.340 There's very, another sad TikTok going around of a gal with dyed hair covered in a rainbow 1.00

00:42:01.880 flag.

00:42:03.120 Who's got a bullhorn and who knows, it looks like the middle of nowhere with some friends

00:42:06.780 around her saying that she has just discovered just this month that she is actually a boy.

00:42:12.860 It's kind of scary because I only realized this a couple of days ago and I've only come

00:42:17.400 out to a few people.

00:42:19.720 I'm a guy.

00:42:20.640 I used he, they pronouns and I'm going to go by Theo. 0.99

00:42:33.800 I told my mom today and I have to go home every day and be called my dead name and have she,

00:42:47.620 her pronouns used every time I go home and no one realizes how hurtful it is.

00:42:53.120 It's like a slap in the face.

00:42:54.480 And I dyed my hair last night so I could feel more masculine and I was afraid I was going

00:43:00.960 to get thrown out of the house.

00:43:02.640 We love you, Theo.

00:43:03.400 I'm, I'm a guy now.

00:43:06.700 Yay.

00:43:07.620 What a strange, I was just thinking, what a strange fact of feminism that feminism has 1.00

00:43:13.060 convinced high school girls, you know, the ones with the dress code to just wear really 0.99

00:43:17.520 skimpy outfits.

00:43:18.740 That'll show the patriarchy.

00:43:20.300 We're just going to wear skimpy outfits.

00:43:22.200 Yeah.

00:43:22.600 Take that boys.

00:43:23.700 Oh, you got us.

00:43:24.580 Wow.

00:43:24.980 Oh, ouch.

00:43:26.000 Stop it.

00:43:27.280 No, please no more.

00:43:28.640 But that's also convinced women that the, the greatest way that they can express the 0.98

00:43:34.560 why I'm woman, hear me roar is to just become guys, is to just take on this idea that men

00:43:43.000 have the only virtues, men, men, men's behaviors and identities are the only things of value. 0.69

00:43:51.720 That's, that's what they're, they're suggesting.

00:43:54.420 This is, this actually happened with feminism, right? 1.00

00:43:56.540 Feminism told women in the 1970s that the, the male traits, the masculine values were the

00:44:02.880 only ones with any worth and all of the specifically female traits being nurturing, 0.98

00:44:08.060 motherly, caring for the, rocking the cradle that rules the world. 0.88

00:44:11.860 That's, that's actually completely valueless, which is outrageous and not true.

00:44:16.520 But now you're seeing it reach its apotheosis, which is that now the girls are actually

00:44:21.320 pretending to be boys.

00:44:22.320 What this girl is participating in is a cult, right?

00:44:27.580 That, that is just a cultish behavior where she's saying, no, I'm actually, my spirit is

00:44:33.640 actually different.

00:44:34.860 Myself is only my spirit, not my body.

00:44:37.540 Kooky stuff needs to be taken out of the classroom because it's confusing people.

00:44:42.740 You know, an eighth grade girl just bashed a school board over this, over the transgender 1.00

00:44:46.900 policy because she said this is harmful to women, specifically because now we have to, 1.00

00:44:50.720 to change with boys in the locker room.

00:44:53.940 Two years ago, I was told policy 1040 was just an umbrella philosophy and you weren't

00:44:59.180 going to allow boys into the girls' locker rooms.

00:45:01.520 But here you are doing just that.

00:45:04.720 Everyone knows what a boy is, even you.

00:45:06.880 Your proposed policies are dangerous and rooted in sexism.

00:45:09.680 When woke kids asked me if I was a lesbian or a trans boy because I cut my hair short,

00:45:15.420 it should tell you these modern identities are superficial.

00:45:18.580 My guidance counselor's response to my concerns about bathroom privacy and safety was, well,

00:45:23.340 there are stalls in the bathrooms.

00:45:25.200 Now boys are reading erotica in the classrooms next to girls and you want to give them access 0.99

00:45:29.520 to girls' locker rooms and you want to force girls to call those boys she.

00:45:33.080 You do this in the name of inclusivity while ignoring the girls who will pay the price.

00:45:38.000 Your policies choose boys' wants over girls' needs. 0.73

00:45:41.360 So, totally right.

00:45:42.900 Great stuff.

00:45:44.000 She's very, you know, I hesitate from playing, you know, these viral clips of children and

00:45:50.700 teenagers because I think, generally speaking, I don't care what children and teenagers have

00:45:55.240 to say.

00:45:55.780 By definition, they're not particularly wise or educated.

00:45:59.620 This, however, because it was at a political event.

00:46:01.900 It was at a school board meeting.

00:46:03.260 And she happened to be right on the issue.

00:46:05.480 Then I think it's worth playing.

00:46:08.120 However, it goes further than that.

00:46:11.560 So much of this trans issue is being argued on the right as a matter of the rights of women.

00:46:17.380 You know, the women are losing their bathrooms. 1.00

00:46:18.940 They're losing their locker rooms.

00:46:20.000 And now little girls have to change in front of grown men just because Husky Hank decided 1.00

00:46:23.860 to call himself Helen last week.

00:46:25.340 That is insane and it's a good place to begin.

00:46:28.640 But that's not really the argument.

00:46:30.320 Really, the problem here is not that one group's rights are being infringed by another group's

00:46:37.160 rights.

00:46:37.980 It's not that, well, yes, men have the right to pretend that they're women in the privacy

00:46:41.620 of their own mind, but not in the locker room or whatever.

00:46:44.680 The issue is the reality.

00:46:48.420 It is simply the case that men who put on dresses are not women. 0.74

00:46:55.740 You know, there was a clip from Jimmy Kimmel the other day.

00:46:58.620 There was this clip from Jimmy Kimmel and he made a joke about Bruce Jenner and Bruce Jenner

00:47:05.040 was very offended.

00:47:05.800 Here's the joke.

00:47:06.880 If you've been keeping up with Caitlyn, you know that she is running for governor of our

00:47:10.340 state.

00:47:11.200 Caitlyn Jenner-Karkashian appeared on The View today to promote that.

00:47:16.460 And right off the bat, it did not go great.

00:47:20.260 Welcome back to The View, Caitlyn Jenner.

00:47:22.380 Well, thank you very much.

00:47:24.540 It's always a pleasure to be with all the ladies and especially you.

00:47:28.800 Whoopi, we've been friends forever.

00:47:32.780 Let's hear that noise Whoopi made one more time.

00:47:35.580 Forever.

00:47:36.540 Yeah.

00:47:37.100 And that's just how the interview started.

00:47:38.840 Are we sure that isn't Donald Trump in a Caitlyn Jenner wig?

00:47:41.440 Because, I mean, look at this.

00:47:42.820 The resemblance is uncanny.

00:47:44.340 This, I mean, they really, they've got all the same kind of moves.

00:47:48.300 Okay, so there's the joke and Caitlyn Jenner, you know, I'm calling Caitlyn Bruce now, not

00:47:53.800 to be mean, not to, because I want to be cruel or anything.

00:47:56.340 I think it's cruel to pretend that this guy is a woman and I think it's cruel to indulge 1.00

00:48:00.320 that delusion.

00:48:01.300 And Caitlyn's a girl's name and Bruce is a boy's name and he's Bruce Jenner and he might

00:48:05.860 be confused about that and society might be confused, but I don't think it's good for

00:48:08.520 anybody to play into that confusion.

00:48:10.520 So Bruce tweets out, last night, Jimmy Kimmel called me Donald Trump with a wig.

00:48:14.060 He obviously believes that trans women are simply men with wigs on.

00:48:16.620 Where is the outrage from the left or the LGBT community?

00:48:19.400 Being woke must be optional if you're a Democrat.

00:48:21.380 That's true.

00:48:21.960 It is.

00:48:22.280 They don't care about the double standard and wokeness is not a standard that I want to 0.95

00:48:26.180 go along with.

00:48:26.840 The fact is trans women are men in wigs and that's just the fact and that's the reality 1.00

00:48:32.440 and this is part of my fear of a Caitlyn Jenner candidacy is that the right is going to be

00:48:39.400 saying that Democrats are the real transphobes and we're going to adopt this into ourselves.

00:48:42.760 It is not simply a case of rights and one's private matter not infringing on one's public

00:48:48.920 rights.

00:48:49.860 Reality is the point here.

00:48:51.920 Okay.

00:48:52.880 Some things are real.

00:48:54.160 Some things are true.

00:48:55.820 We will have standards that either accord more with that truth or do not accord with

00:49:00.980 that truth.

00:49:01.600 But there will be some kind of standards.

00:49:03.360 There will be language that we all speak.

00:49:06.180 There will be or you'll have total social breakdown.

00:49:08.840 There will be things that we all do and recognize.

00:49:10.340 I would like those things to be more in line with reality and sometimes that means saying

00:49:16.280 no to craziness.

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The Michael Knowles Show - June 15, 2021

Ep. 785 - Just Say No!

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