The Michael Knowles Show - September 09, 2021


Ep. 839 - The American Taliban


Episode Stats

Length

49 minutes

Words per Minute

168.36703

Word Count

8,290

Sentence Count

617

Misogynist Sentences

41

Hate Speech Sentences

40


Summary

After 130 years, a famous statue of Robert E. Lee has fallen in Richmond, Virginia. To add insult to injury, those who support this taking now plan to cut it into three pieces and throw it into storage prior to its complete desecration.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 After 130 years, a famous statue of Robert E. Lee has fallen in Richmond, Virginia.
00:00:06.980 The great general, one of the most important figures not only in the Civil War,
00:00:10.600 but also in bringing the country back together after the Union Army won,
00:00:15.080 will be hidden away in storage for the foreseeable future.
00:00:18.440 And while the Libs celebrate the demise of General Lee, we are left to ask ourselves a simple question.
00:00:24.260 Is America a better place now that the statue has been torn down?
00:00:28.900 Has any American's life improved?
00:00:32.320 Is it possible even that America is actually a worse place because of this desecration?
00:00:38.200 Is it possible that, I don't know, maybe there's a reason that we might all be missing right now
00:00:43.740 as to why the statue was put up in the first place?
00:00:45.880 No, it couldn't be.
00:00:47.360 Just like the Taliban, the Libs will tear down the historical monument and get ready to destroy the next one.
00:00:54.200 I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.
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00:02:46.820 President Trump is being excoriated for his statement on the removal of the Robert E. Lee statue.
00:02:54.160 Oh, Robert, the historians are making fun of him.
00:02:57.740 Everyone's calling him a racist.
00:02:59.800 He's being called an idiot.
00:03:01.640 Well, here's what he said.
00:03:02.760 Just watched as a massive crane took down the magnificent and very famous statue of Robert E. Lee on his horse in Richmond.
00:03:08.300 It has long been recognized as a beautiful piece of bronze sculpture.
00:03:11.200 To add insult to injury, those who support this taking now plan to cut it into three pieces
00:03:16.000 and throw this work of art into storage prior to its complete desecration.
00:03:21.100 Robert E. Lee is considered by many generals to be the greatest strategist of all.
00:03:24.260 President Lincoln wanted him to command the North, in which case the war would have been over in one day.
00:03:29.500 I love this.
00:03:30.480 Just look, he's a great general.
00:03:31.860 Okay, folks, not like those other crappy generals.
00:03:34.180 Robert E. Lee instead chose the other side because of his great love of Virginia.
00:03:38.520 And except for Gettysburg, would have won the war.
00:03:40.480 He should be remembered as perhaps the greatest unifying force after the war was over.
00:03:44.340 Ardent in his resolve to bring the North and South together through many means of reconciliation
00:03:48.380 and imploring his soldiers to do their duty in becoming good citizens of this country.
00:03:52.900 This is a very important point.
00:03:55.100 And Trump is absolutely 100% correct here.
00:03:58.620 Okay, and of course he won't get credit for saying it, but it's very important.
00:04:03.220 Just like Chesterton's fence, people should be very careful about tearing down these Civil War monuments.
00:04:10.760 Chesterton's fence, this idea, I'm oversimplifying a little bit, but the idea that when a reformer
00:04:15.760 walks into the middle of a field and sees a fence there and he has no reason, no understanding
00:04:20.880 as to why the fence might be there, and he says, we're going to tear it down, the wise thing
00:04:24.820 to do is to say, no, no, no, you can't tear it down.
00:04:26.700 First, you have to understand why it was put up in the first place.
00:04:30.080 Then, and only then, should you consider whether or not you want to tear it down.
00:04:35.560 The same goes for these Civil War monuments.
00:04:37.460 Why are these being put up in the first place?
00:04:39.380 Is it just because Robert E. Lee is this great, wonderful American?
00:04:44.520 Well, in many ways, he was a wonderful American.
00:04:46.700 He was a very good general.
00:04:48.820 Lincoln did want him to fight for the North, but he didn't because he had this love of Virginia.
00:04:53.780 But that last point there, I think, might be the most important.
00:04:57.400 He was among the most important figures after the war to bring the North and South back together
00:05:05.320 and reform America.
00:05:07.540 He was very important for that.
00:05:08.840 And when President Lincoln called for malice toward none and charity for all, this is what
00:05:15.580 he's talking about.
00:05:16.560 The South, much to the left's consternation, is part of America.
00:05:23.360 I live in the South now.
00:05:24.660 I'm a good old Southern boy.
00:05:26.940 This is part of the country.
00:05:28.780 The left wishes it were not part of the country, but it is.
00:05:31.800 So either you're going to live together, you're going to love one another, you're going to
00:05:37.160 recognize that this is a fallen world and there are going to be bad things that happen in this
00:05:42.560 world, but we're just going to move on together and try to pursue the good and try to avoid evil.
00:05:46.500 Or you can tear down everything and tear down your fellow Americans and preen and stand on the
00:05:53.140 shoulders of giants and pretend that you're flying.
00:05:55.380 And that's what's going on here.
00:05:57.720 And it's not going to end with Robert E. Lee.
00:05:59.200 As Trump called it four years ago, he said, they're not just going after Robert E. Lee.
00:06:03.240 They're going to tear down Jefferson and Washington.
00:06:04.940 And everyone laughed at him.
00:06:05.780 And then two seconds later, they're tearing down Jefferson and Washington.
00:06:10.240 This is Taliban style stuff.
00:06:13.060 We whine and cry and rend our garments because the Taliban blow up Buddhist statues in Afghanistan.
00:06:19.140 They're doing the same thing here.
00:06:20.820 Not the Taliban, the American left.
00:06:22.460 They're tearing down our statues.
00:06:24.240 They're tearing down our monuments.
00:06:25.620 They're tearing down our history.
00:06:27.080 That's what's happening.
00:06:28.860 Speaking of the Taliban, you know, there's been a lot of talk because of this abortion law in
00:06:34.580 Texas about the Texas Taliban.
00:06:37.020 It's this is terrible to women there.
00:06:39.060 It's just what's the difference between Texas and Afghanistan?
00:06:42.120 The better comparison is to the libs.
00:06:44.580 OK, not just because the libs are tearing down all our statues and burning down the country
00:06:49.840 and committing vigilante terrorist violence, but also because they are very difficult to understand.
00:06:59.080 They're incoherent.
00:06:59.840 And Donald Trump was on Greg Gutfeld's show and he was describing his interactions with
00:07:05.200 the Taliban.
00:07:06.620 It's very difficult to deal with these people because they're they're pretty hard to understand.
00:07:12.060 OK, so I told you about Abdul.
00:07:13.520 Yeah, he's tough.
00:07:14.280 And when I first spoke to him by phone, I said, nice to speak to you by phone, Abdul.
00:07:19.900 And he goes, you know, they're ferocious people.
00:07:23.620 You know, like you go to Broadway shows, they fight.
00:07:26.060 They like to fight.
00:07:26.740 They've been fighting for about a thousand years.
00:07:28.460 Show me the lie.
00:07:31.240 Show me the lie.
00:07:32.300 There was a journalist, Aaron Rupar at Fox dot com, and he was very upset about this.
00:07:37.060 And he tweeted out, Trump suggests Taliban leaders communicate in primitive grunts and
00:07:43.500 groans.
00:07:44.820 I think instead of the word suggests, he meant to say observes this plain fact that's before
00:07:49.680 all of our eyes.
00:07:52.300 This is how to think about the Taliban.
00:07:54.500 Trump has got it right.
00:07:55.400 OK, because I've seen some wild reactions here.
00:08:01.660 Some people on the right, because of how awful our culture has gotten, some people have on
00:08:06.680 the right on the right have said, oh, you know, the Taliban, they're painting over the
00:08:10.220 George Floyd mural.
00:08:11.040 That's not so bad.
00:08:11.740 I mean, they get they get a few things right.
00:08:13.380 Not even a stop clock, right.
00:08:15.660 The libs are very conflicted about their feelings toward the Taliban because they hate America.
00:08:22.540 So they love America's enemies.
00:08:24.300 But the Taliban are this regressive, traditionalist Islamic culture.
00:08:30.780 So they don't know if they can quite like that.
00:08:34.240 What what Trump understands that the libs don't is that different peoples are different.
00:08:43.940 Different cultures are different.
00:08:46.320 With what the libs believe is that the Taliban are basically just sort of misunderstood or they
00:08:52.820 just they just don't have enough iPhones or, you know, which they actually do have iPhones
00:08:57.020 and they're posting memes to Twitter.
00:08:59.040 They just don't have enough jobs.
00:09:01.300 They don't have enough McDonald's.
00:09:04.080 If they had more McDonald's, then they would they would act just like us.
00:09:09.360 I mean, Barack Obama said this.
00:09:10.780 He said the reason that there are problems in the Middle East is they don't have enough
00:09:13.300 money and gadgets and gizmos and, you know, modern Western dress and movies.
00:09:19.060 That's not it.
00:09:20.400 It's not.
00:09:20.980 I know it's difficult for Western libs to understand this right now because they don't believe in
00:09:26.140 anything that all they're after is just making money and pleasuring themselves.
00:09:29.960 But people actually do have beliefs and they act on those beliefs.
00:09:34.400 And we in the West used to have that, too.
00:09:37.020 And we first really went up against the East and the Muslims when the Muslims tried to invade
00:09:42.380 Europe and we repelled them.
00:09:43.620 This is going back to 732 that the Battle of Poitiers, also called the Battle of Tours.
00:09:48.660 And then a few centuries later, you see this in the Crusades, a clash of two different
00:09:53.100 cultures, both of whom really believe in something, both of whom really are willing to die for
00:09:58.440 something, for a belief, for their understanding of God.
00:10:01.400 And now there's a lot of revisionist history that's trying to figure out any sort of reason
00:10:06.340 that the Crusaders might have gone to war, whether it was for money, whether it was for land,
00:10:11.800 other than the one that's obvious, that they actually believed in something.
00:10:16.100 But we can't understand that in the West anymore.
00:10:19.520 We can't understand that cultural difference.
00:10:21.480 Trump does.
00:10:22.620 He says, yeah, I talked to these guys.
00:10:23.940 It was like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:10:25.660 He's making fun of them.
00:10:27.240 He's describing them as a sort of savage type of person who is not civilized in the way that
00:10:32.440 the West is civilized.
00:10:33.520 He's right.
00:10:34.580 He's right.
00:10:35.460 As he often is, he's right.
00:10:36.840 Though there's not a ton of civility going on here in the West these days either.
00:10:40.620 As you may have noticed, Larry Elder is running for governor of California in the recall
00:10:45.120 election.
00:10:45.520 So he's walking through some neighborhood in California and a lady in a gorilla mask throws
00:10:52.940 an egg at him.
00:10:55.980 You see Larry walking down.
00:11:00.060 Larry's walking down.
00:11:01.140 There we go.
00:11:02.300 White lady in a gorilla mask throws an egg at him.
00:11:05.440 She's on a bike.
00:11:05.980 Then she punches one of Larry's body guys.
00:11:16.780 There's Newsom's California for you.
00:11:19.320 A beautiful place.
00:11:21.380 Then another kooky guy.
00:11:22.840 And then they're throwing more stuff.
00:11:23.920 So then they put, they put Larry in the car.
00:11:28.160 They drive away.
00:11:30.220 This is like a campaign commercial for Larry Elder.
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00:12:47.940 A white lib.
00:12:49.600 She seemed white.
00:12:50.440 I don't know if she's white or Hispanic or so.
00:12:52.500 She seemed kind of fairer skinned.
00:12:55.120 A lib in a gorilla mask just threw an egg at Larry Elder.
00:13:00.460 Larry Elder, you see, is the black face of white supremacy.
00:13:04.760 That's the line from the LA Times.
00:13:07.960 And, you know, he's not just a sort of amiable libertarian black guy from South Central.
00:13:12.720 No, he's the far right, radical, white supremacist black guy.
00:13:18.320 And that's why political violence is justified to stop him.
00:13:22.160 That's what the left is implying.
00:13:24.220 And that's what they're perpetrating against him right now.
00:13:26.780 I'm not even going to say it.
00:13:28.200 You know what every reaction to this is?
00:13:31.180 Well, if the roles were reversed, if the situation were reversed.
00:13:35.120 Yeah, we all know that.
00:13:36.140 The problem here is that the hypothetical doesn't do us any good.
00:13:42.320 We know that there are different standards here.
00:13:44.840 I mean, they're willing to call Larry Elder a white supremacist.
00:13:48.520 The positive takeaway from this should be when they call you a racist, just who cares?
00:13:53.740 Who cares?
00:13:54.040 It doesn't mean anything.
00:13:55.340 Don't let it get to you, man.
00:13:57.060 Wear it as a badge of honor to be called a racist by some dishonest idiot lib.
00:14:01.640 It means you've won the argument.
00:14:03.200 It means they fear you and they fear Larry Elder.
00:14:07.960 Do you know other white supremacists I just found out about is Shapiro.
00:14:12.020 Ben is a white supremacist.
00:14:13.100 I didn't know that.
00:14:14.760 Last I checked, the white supremacists, not so hot on the chosen people, but there was
00:14:20.520 a meme that was going around listing Ben as a white supremacist.
00:14:24.560 I said, okay, this has got to be from some far left radical group, probably some group that
00:14:28.640 doesn't have any power, right?
00:14:30.540 It's the Center for Progress and Advancement and Antifa and, oh no, it's from Google.
00:14:36.620 It's from Google, the most powerful company on earth.
00:14:39.800 Google is holding a quote unquote anti-racist training for its employees and it claims that
00:14:44.500 there's a direct link between Ben Shapiro and mass murder.
00:14:50.260 There's a graphic, it's called the White Supremacy Pyramid.
00:14:56.080 It shows that at the bottom of the pyramid, this is the sort of broadest level of white
00:15:02.780 supremacy, is the phrase all lives matter.
00:15:06.300 That's white supremacy.
00:15:07.420 So if you say that white people shouldn't just be summarily executed, you're a white supremacist.
00:15:15.020 So all lives matter, you're beginning, then you move up to Ben.
00:15:20.940 Ben is right above that, that's on minimization.
00:15:24.220 That's the white supremacy thing and some other guys next to him whom I don't know.
00:15:27.740 Now, then two spots up, you see Trump and then, I don't know, some other people of violence
00:15:35.420 and then mass murder.
00:15:36.400 So Shapiro, I do, look, I'm not saying that Ben is totally innocent, okay?
00:15:42.280 He does have murder in his heart every time he looks at me, but otherwise, I don't think
00:15:46.840 he's a very violent guy.
00:15:48.240 He's a sort of mild-mannered Orthodox Jew, generally not welcomed by the skinheads.
00:15:54.280 This is what we're up against and we can, we're laughing about it, it's funny.
00:15:59.020 Google has more power than just about any institution in the country.
00:16:05.520 I would say the government sort of has more power, but Google and the government are not
00:16:09.240 so easily separated.
00:16:10.380 Google and the government own multiple properties together.
00:16:13.820 Google, in many ways, is part of the government.
00:16:16.860 They're the enforcement arm.
00:16:18.920 They're a proxy for the government to do the government's dirty work very often.
00:16:24.280 The, the disparities of power are unprecedented right now.
00:16:30.120 Google's power compared to the power of the American people is, is so radically greater.
00:16:37.120 I don't think there's any comparison in history.
00:16:39.580 They control our speech.
00:16:41.740 They control our behavior in some ways.
00:16:43.460 They know every single thing about us.
00:16:44.920 They know more about us than we know about ourselves.
00:16:46.540 And they run the government.
00:16:51.120 And they're calling some people mass murderers.
00:16:53.820 So what happens?
00:16:54.760 What happens if you are successfully labeled a white supremacist, a mass murderer, a genocidal
00:16:59.620 maniac?
00:17:00.640 You can very easily be censored, ostracized, or have violence committed against you.
00:17:05.940 That's the point.
00:17:07.560 It's, it would be defensive.
00:17:09.360 The implication here from the Google slide is that if you kill Ben Shapiro, it's self-defense
00:17:17.320 because Ben Shapiro's leading to mass murder.
00:17:20.820 It, it only followed, they, they won't come out and say it outright, but that's the inevitable
00:17:26.080 implication.
00:17:29.140 And Ben is a stand-in for you and me.
00:17:31.540 Ben is, he's pretty mainstream, right?
00:17:33.700 There, there are people who are to the right of Ben Shapiro, many of them, all of those people.
00:17:39.400 Absolutely not permitted in the public discourse.
00:17:44.180 Now, there is a little, you're getting a little bit of pushback.
00:17:47.240 The, the left is getting so aggressive that even people who are generally liberal, some
00:17:54.360 of them are beginning to feel a little uncomfortable.
00:17:55.760 I'm, I'm thinking in particular of the, a cardinal of the Archdiocese of Washington.
00:18:01.940 So this is Joe Biden's Catholic cardinal, cardinal, the guy who is sort of responsible for Washington,
00:18:09.660 DC, Cardinal Gregory.
00:18:11.900 Cardinal Gregory is pretty liberal as far as Catholic prelates go.
00:18:20.460 Cardinal Gregory famously, infamously attacked Donald Trump while he was president for going
00:18:27.860 to visit a Catholic shrine.
00:18:29.580 He was offended that, that Donald Trump went to visit the shrine of St. John Paul II.
00:18:36.560 That's, that's how liberal and left this cardinal is.
00:18:40.460 And yet even this cardinal has finally broken his silence on Joe Biden's formal heresy on
00:18:48.600 abortion.
00:18:49.300 Last week, President Biden said he did not agree that life begins at conception.
00:18:54.740 Were you surprised to hear that?
00:18:56.760 And can you clarify the church's teaching on when life begins?
00:19:02.860 The Catholic church teaches and has taught that life, human life begins at conception.
00:19:11.580 Uh, so the president is not demonstrating Catholic teaching.
00:19:16.660 Okay.
00:19:17.160 Um, now among the theologians, uh, there's all kinds of medical issues about when does conception
00:19:29.300 take place?
00:19:30.540 When is it at implantation?
00:19:33.160 Is it, uh, at some point when the sperm and the ovum come together and, and, and create a
00:19:42.300 new, uh, reality?
00:19:45.220 Uh, and, and, and theologians have debated that and continue to debate that.
00:19:49.780 Oh my goodness gracious.
00:19:51.440 As respectfully as I possibly can, I've got to point out here, Cardinal Gregory is doing
00:19:57.300 everything he can, everything he possibly can to defend Joe Biden's indefensible heresy.
00:20:03.660 So he's saying, well, Joe Biden is not demonstrating Catholic teaching.
00:20:11.780 You mean he's a heretic?
00:20:13.200 You mean he's, he's renouncing his faith?
00:20:16.820 He's not practicing his religion?
00:20:18.800 Well, yes, though there is debate over when conception takes place.
00:20:25.140 Even if that were the case, that's not what's at issue here.
00:20:29.680 We're talking about six week abortion laws.
00:20:32.700 We're talking about heartbeat bills.
00:20:34.620 Regardless of whether you want to parse the nuances of whether conception is when the, the
00:20:42.260 new baby implants, which it's not, or when the sperm and the ovum come together to create
00:20:48.480 a new reality, also known as a human life, uh, which it is.
00:20:53.520 Regardless of that, fine.
00:20:55.060 You have that debate.
00:20:55.960 That's fine by me.
00:20:56.480 That's completely irrelevant.
00:21:00.100 No one, no one is suggesting right now that, uh, we should permit abortion before implantation,
00:21:07.500 but, but not after implantation.
00:21:10.260 So you, after the, after the sperm and the egg come together, you can, no, none of that
00:21:14.480 is, is on the table.
00:21:15.880 We're talking about a heartbeat.
00:21:17.960 And what Joe Biden is saying is explicitly, he said, I do not believe that life begins
00:21:22.960 at the moment of conception.
00:21:24.840 So regardless of where you say the moment of conception is, it doesn't matter.
00:21:28.040 Biden is regardless engaging in formal heresy, but he doesn't want to do it.
00:21:31.980 The new reality, it's a euphemism to me.
00:21:34.000 It's a human being.
00:21:34.880 It's a human being.
00:21:35.540 And even, I don't mean to go after Cardinal Gregory too much here.
00:21:38.400 I'm glad that he is articulating the church's plain teaching on this to our heretic president,
00:21:43.160 the second man who at least pretends to be a Catholic, even though he's not a practicing
00:21:47.420 Catholic, but I wish he were clearer about it.
00:21:51.600 I wish he weren't even giving Joe Biden that much wiggle room.
00:21:54.240 It's, he doesn't deserve that much wiggle room.
00:21:55.880 It's not true.
00:21:57.000 It's not just.
00:21:59.640 And if the church cannot speak out clearly on life, it can't speak out on anything at
00:22:04.960 all.
00:22:05.180 That's why Cardinal Gregory is saying, yes, Biden is not, not going along with Catholic teaching
00:22:10.040 here.
00:22:10.740 Right.
00:22:11.140 So let's try to change that.
00:22:14.080 Let's, let's not beat around the bush.
00:22:16.100 Okay.
00:22:16.520 Now, among all of these various debates, does it begin at the fertilization?
00:22:22.840 The implantation is, where does it begin?
00:22:25.780 All of the people who are debating this are still less confused than Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
00:22:33.800 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is demonstrating the most delightful tension of this abortion debate.
00:22:42.140 Namely, the left pretends that men can get pregnant, but the left also demagogues abortion
00:22:48.860 as a women's issue and pro-life as an example of the patriarchy, which can't exist because
00:22:54.160 men and women are no longer to be distinguished, except when it's convenient for the left.
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00:25:53.240 This pro-life bill in Texas is anti-woman.
00:26:00.620 It's a bunch of men saying that women can't kill their children.
00:26:05.400 And so it's anti-woman, except for the men who can get pregnant, because they can, and
00:26:16.140 the women who are men.
00:26:21.860 AOC, can you explain, please?
00:26:24.780 None of this is about supporting life.
00:26:26.600 What this is about is controlling women's bodies and controlling people who are not
00:26:34.820 cisgender men.
00:26:36.160 This is about making sure that someone like me, as a woman, or any menstruating person
00:26:42.020 in this country cannot make decisions over their own body.
00:26:46.120 And people like Governor Abbott and Mitch McConnell want to have more control over a woman's body
00:26:52.040 than that woman or that person has over themselves.
00:26:54.820 Hold on, wait, is it a woman's body or a menstruating person's body?
00:26:58.580 Or it's a woman or a person, and it's the men who, first of all, in the spirit of reconciliation
00:27:03.220 and compromise, I'm willing to make a deal right now with AOC.
00:27:08.440 Any menstruating person who wants to get an abortion, I'm fine with that.
00:27:13.140 That's fine.
00:27:13.540 If you are a person right now who is menstruating and you want to get an abortion, that's fine.
00:27:19.340 That's fine by me.
00:27:20.600 That's fine.
00:27:21.000 So, you know, generally speaking, people who are menstruating are not pregnant.
00:27:28.000 I don't, you know, AOC, I thought she would know the fundamentals of biology here, at least
00:27:32.660 the real, but apparently not that even.
00:27:35.320 But I can, I'm happy to enlighten people.
00:27:37.500 When you are pregnant, you stop menstruating.
00:27:39.740 That's how it goes.
00:27:40.520 So that's fine.
00:27:41.120 There we go.
00:27:41.540 There's my carve out.
00:27:42.900 Okay.
00:27:43.480 Menstruating people can have abortions.
00:27:44.780 Also, menstruating person seems a little sexist to me, doesn't it?
00:27:48.420 Men-struating per sons?
00:27:51.800 How about women-stru-
00:27:53.340 Actually, better than women-struating.
00:27:55.020 How about woke-person-stru-
00:27:58.380 How about son?
00:28:00.440 How about woke-
00:28:01.440 How about whopper-daughter-struating per daughters?
00:28:04.980 Hmm?
00:28:05.580 How about that, AOC?
00:28:06.540 I see your woke language, and I raise you a whopper-daughter-struating per daughters.
00:28:13.680 Hmm.
00:28:15.020 Take that.
00:28:16.580 A very, very silly, crazy stuff.
00:28:19.340 And Anderson Cooper has to pretend that this is serious, by the way.
00:28:23.040 Now, the, what's funny about it, of course, is that you have these two ideas that are in
00:28:29.760 conflict with one another.
00:28:30.680 The idea that men and women are not different at all, that men can become women, women can
00:28:37.020 become men.
00:28:37.480 There's no difference.
00:28:38.080 A woman needs a man like a fish, needs a bicycle.
00:28:39.740 And the idea that women are this special class of victims, and they're oppressed by men, and
00:28:44.320 you've got the oppressor and the oppressed, and you can't change that, and it's just an
00:28:47.200 eternal fact of society.
00:28:49.020 And people notice that these things are in conflict.
00:28:51.480 You see the same type of conflict in the debate between homosexuality and transgenderism.
00:28:57.640 Homosexuality says that men are men, and women are women, and some boys like
00:29:00.560 other boys, and some girls like other girls, and you're born this way, and there's nothing
00:29:03.820 you can change about it.
00:29:05.060 And transgenderism says, actually, there's not even any such thing as boys and girls.
00:29:08.420 Boys can be girls, and girls can be boys, and men can be women.
00:29:11.720 And so, if you were to apply the logic of transgenderism to homosexuality, then you would
00:29:18.780 lose the idea that you're born this way, and you can't change it.
00:29:21.580 Because not only can you change your sexual desires, but you can change your sex itself.
00:29:24.960 So, the solution then to homosexuality, and the question that used to be asked, which
00:29:28.640 is, who would choose this?
00:29:29.420 Who would choose to be born this way?
00:29:31.040 Would be, oh, well, just change it.
00:29:32.540 You're a boy who likes other boys, well, now just, you know, be a boy that likes girls,
00:29:36.920 or be a girl that likes boys.
00:29:38.440 But you can just change it, because it's all fluid, right?
00:29:41.400 Or, if you were to apply the logic of homosexuality to transgenderism, you would lose the entire
00:29:46.040 concept of transgenderism.
00:29:47.340 People are pointing this out as, maybe this will be the moment that the left comes undone
00:29:51.320 by its own illogic.
00:29:52.400 It won't, it won't.
00:29:54.960 Because it actually, it all kind of goes back to second wave feminism.
00:29:59.820 When second wave feminism says a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle, there's
00:30:02.800 no difference between men and women.
00:30:04.300 The only difference is some people have long hair or something.
00:30:08.060 Some people wear skirts.
00:30:09.760 What they're saying is that man equals woman.
00:30:13.620 They are exactly the same, indiscernible.
00:30:16.960 So, if man equals woman, that leads naturally to the homosexual rights movement, and even
00:30:24.760 to gay marriage, because if there's no difference between men and women, then, of course, men
00:30:28.440 should marry men, and women should marry women.
00:30:30.540 The word marriage would be redefined just by that very premise.
00:30:33.840 And if there's no difference between men and women, then, of course, a man can become
00:30:36.560 a woman, and a woman can become a man, because those categories don't mean anything.
00:30:40.720 So, unfortunately, it actually does sort of make sense.
00:30:43.900 The reason that when you listen to AOC, she's getting a little tongue-tied, and she sounds
00:30:49.800 a little bit like the Taliban, doesn't she?
00:30:51.200 Oh, and the person, and the woman, and the...
00:30:54.660 The reason she's doing that is because her argument doesn't have logic to it.
00:30:59.940 It's just grunts.
00:31:01.180 It's just interest.
00:31:02.820 It's just desire.
00:31:04.300 It's not anything logical.
00:31:07.360 But that's our politics these days.
00:31:10.760 Unfortunately, some so-called conservatives are a little confused on sex and gender and
00:31:17.280 abortion as well.
00:31:18.860 Notably, Bruce Jenner, who is now running...
00:31:21.200 I guess he's still running for governor of California.
00:31:24.620 And Mr. Jenner goes on CNN, and he's asked about his opinion on abortion.
00:31:29.200 And he talks out of both sides of his mouth.
00:31:35.060 I am for a woman's right to choose.
00:31:37.900 I am also for a state having the ability to make their own laws.
00:31:43.480 And so I support Texas in that decision.
00:31:48.400 That's their decision.
00:31:50.560 I'm OK with that.
00:31:52.520 But as far as being a woman's right to choose, I don't see any changes in our laws in California
00:31:58.920 in the future.
00:32:00.380 But you're fine with the Texas law, even though you say that you support abortion rights.
00:32:05.180 You are fine with a law that essentially outlaws abortion.
00:32:08.240 I think they have the right in their state to do what they want to do.
00:32:14.320 Now, do I agree with the decision or not?
00:32:16.880 No, to be honest with you, I actually probably do not agree with the decision.
00:32:20.780 But I agree with they have the right to make their own decision.
00:32:24.880 Now, I actually like this answer.
00:32:27.800 I don't agree with this answer, but I like this answer.
00:32:30.120 Because what Jenner has done here is flip the usual Democrat mealy-mouthed answer on its
00:32:36.600 head.
00:32:36.920 The Democrat mealy-mouthed abortion answer from putative fake Catholics like Mario Cuomo
00:32:44.040 or Joe Biden, at least in previous years, is, listen, I personally do not support abortion.
00:32:53.420 But I would not force my opinion on the people.
00:32:56.820 So politically, I support abortion.
00:32:59.060 But personally, I do not support abortion.
00:33:01.800 And what Jenner has done here, it's actually quite clever, is he says,
00:33:05.820 personally, I do support abortion.
00:33:09.060 But I would never force my views on the people of Texas.
00:33:11.840 I support democracy.
00:33:12.940 I support their right to make their own laws.
00:33:14.880 I love it.
00:33:15.440 It's a clever little argument.
00:33:17.180 Now, much like the Democrats' argument, ultimately, it doesn't make a lot of sense.
00:33:22.200 It makes enough sense in that Jenner is a Californian, and she's talking,
00:33:25.680 you see how difficult this is?
00:33:27.960 He's talking about people in Texas.
00:33:30.280 But what he's also pointing to here is federalism, is subsidiarity, is the idea that it's not
00:33:38.620 only that the government, the federal government has rights, and it's not only that the people
00:33:42.020 have rights, but the states have rights too.
00:33:44.420 And we forget that a lot, especially as we tear down statues of Robert E. Lee.
00:33:48.220 We'd certainly forget that a lot, that the states do have, they don't have unlimited rights.
00:33:52.960 They don't have the rights to do anything they want, but they do have some rights.
00:33:56.280 And it seems to me the people of Texas have the right to pass their own laws on abortion.
00:33:59.940 And it seems the same to Bruce Jenner.
00:34:02.000 It seems the same to me, someone who opposes abortion, and to Jenner, who supports abortion.
00:34:07.980 That's a big tent.
00:34:09.780 That's about as big tent a party as I can see.
00:34:12.060 Some other putative conservatives, mainstream conservatives, seem to be confused.
00:34:19.140 The View always has some, at least nominal conservative on the panel.
00:34:24.340 The View is that gaggle of liberal women, and they have one woman, at least, who's at least
00:34:29.180 sort of kind of conservative.
00:34:31.320 And so Meghan McCain was filling that spot for a while.
00:34:34.160 Meghan left the show.
00:34:35.420 Now they're bringing in new people.
00:34:37.040 So Mia Love, who was being talked up in recent years as a major Republican figure,
00:34:42.820 oh gosh, she could run for president, that sort of thing.
00:34:45.100 She goes on The View, and she offers up what I'm sure The View producers consider to be
00:34:52.700 the arch-conservative position on abortion and life and the sexual revolution.
00:35:00.560 Namely, just pump women full of birth control.
00:35:03.480 I think it's false choices.
00:35:05.900 They're giving women false choices.
00:35:08.080 This is what frustrates me about government.
00:35:10.320 Instead of actually taking care of the story from the beginning, they're trying to pick
00:35:14.720 up broken pieces, and they're making it worse.
00:35:16.980 Why not try and empower women?
00:35:18.840 Why not giving them more options when it comes to their reproductive health?
00:35:23.300 Like providing over-the-counter contraceptives, birth control pills, instead of condoms, and
00:35:28.680 plan B. I mean, I am pro-life.
00:35:33.560 I've always been pro-life with the exception of rape, incest, and the life of a mother.
00:35:38.040 I don't think government should be going into families when it comes to making a decision
00:35:42.600 about such important issues and personal issues that are damaging to women.
00:35:48.980 So here's what I think.
00:35:50.620 Why not treat women like assets that can be developed instead of liabilities that need
00:35:55.820 to be managed?
00:35:57.120 Not sure I understood all of that word salad, but I think she's right in the first part,
00:36:01.980 which is this is about false choices.
00:36:04.460 I think this is exactly about false choices.
00:36:06.720 I think The View is giving its audience false choices here between liberals and people who
00:36:15.340 sort of pretend to be conservative.
00:36:16.860 I don't think the conservative view on abortion is that we need to pump women full of contraception
00:36:24.640 and only kill 1% of babies.
00:36:28.100 I think the conservative view on abortion is, and forgive my radicalism here, that we shouldn't
00:36:37.480 kill any of the babies and we should encourage life and the openness to life and stable relationships
00:36:44.640 and marriage and monogamy and a stable society with the stable fundamental political element
00:36:54.380 of the society, which is the family.
00:36:55.980 I think, I think that would be the conservative argument, not what we're getting from The View.
00:37:03.960 But this, it just reminds me, anytime I tune into a show like The View, it reminds me that
00:37:11.520 so much of our politics is just fake.
00:37:15.480 It's just a show.
00:37:16.480 It's just pretend.
00:37:19.200 It is a liberal regime with a few court jesters, the court jester conservatives whose job it is
00:37:28.060 to provide the appearance of opposition when in fact what they do is they serve to legitimize
00:37:34.940 the liberal regime.
00:37:36.140 Phyllis Schlafly, a great American conservative woman, famously called in the 20th century for a
00:37:42.440 choice, not an echo.
00:37:45.360 I'm pro-choice in that regard.
00:37:47.620 I want there to be a choice between liberals and conservatives, not just between liberals
00:37:52.200 and slightly less liberals.
00:37:54.140 Okay?
00:37:54.460 I want an actual choice here.
00:37:57.900 And when The View presents this argument as the wide choice between a liberal and a conservative,
00:38:05.500 when actually they have the same premises, the same basic ideas about life, about the sexual
00:38:11.640 revolution, about the family, about individual autonomy, they agree on everything basically.
00:38:16.060 They just agree, they just disagree on how many babies should be killed and they disagree
00:38:20.900 on how much we should promote contraceptives.
00:38:26.960 No one is suggesting we promote life, really, just some saying, well, maybe we should kill fewer
00:38:32.200 people.
00:38:33.240 That's not a choice.
00:38:34.740 And that's, there was an interesting character, Curtis Yarvin, went on Tucker Carlson's show,
00:38:39.840 on his Fox Nation show yesterday, and Curtis Yarvin is a more radical right-wing thinker.
00:38:46.420 I've read a bit of his stuff, and he makes the same point, actually, that so much of our
00:38:51.760 politics is just kind of fake.
00:38:53.540 We think that the real battle of our government is between Trump and Biden, when in fact, the
00:39:00.020 president himself has relatively very little power, even compared to presidents 100 years
00:39:05.480 ago, that the actual political fights are sort of hidden, and they don't really change.
00:39:11.340 That actually, actually, the fight, the political battles that we're seeing on The View, that's
00:39:16.780 not, that's not really what's going on, because they're all within the dominant regime.
00:39:22.580 Speaking of squishy conservatives, President Trump is set to endorse the opponent of Liz Cheney
00:39:28.320 in the next congressional election.
00:39:32.560 No surprise here, there's no love lost between Trump and Cheney, and so he's, I think he's
00:39:38.480 going to endorse Harriet Hageman, who's a Wyoming attorney.
00:39:43.020 She's going to primary Cheney.
00:39:45.200 It brings me to a point that people brought up.
00:39:47.200 I mentioned it, too, when Cheney was being ousted from leadership.
00:39:50.880 People pointed out that Liz Cheney actually has a relatively conservative voting record
00:39:59.740 in Congress.
00:40:00.840 Not perfect, but she was relatively conservative.
00:40:03.280 We would, we would generally agree with her voting record in Congress, more so even than
00:40:08.260 the woman who replaced her in Republican leadership, which is a little bit of a problem.
00:40:12.760 But on this decision to primary Liz Cheney or to support the primary challenger, what we're
00:40:18.720 really talking about here is not your opinion on tax cuts, not even your opinion on abortion,
00:40:23.160 you know, or your opinion on immigration.
00:40:26.140 It's about whether you're a real conservative in practice, in effect.
00:40:32.560 Are you, at the crucial moments, going to stand up for half the country, for the, for traditional
00:40:40.240 Americans, or at the crucial moments, are you going to cave?
00:40:45.700 And are you going to defend Nancy Pelosi?
00:40:47.620 And are you going to be her prop and clown for, for instance, the January 6th commission?
00:40:52.940 That the problem with Liz Cheney, like Romney and others, is at the crucial moment, they
00:40:57.600 cave.
00:40:58.360 They're good 90% of the time, but at the crucial moment, well, the crucial moment is when we
00:41:02.720 need you.
00:41:06.540 Speaking of Republicans who sometimes go a little squishy, there's some good news out of the GOP
00:41:13.120 up in South Dakota.
00:41:14.980 Republican Governor Kristi Noem has just signed an excellent executive order on abortion.
00:41:21.340 Now, Kristi Noem hit the national circuit during the coronavirus lockdowns because she wouldn't
00:41:26.960 lock down her state.
00:41:27.820 So everyone really liked her and she is an attractive woman and she's articulate.
00:41:32.340 And so people started talking about her as a potential presidential candidate.
00:41:36.080 I know now you're not allowed to mention that Kristi Noem is attractive.
00:41:39.060 Matt Walsh did that and she like yelled at him for it and called him a sexist.
00:41:42.260 But it's true, she is attractive and that's one of the reasons people talked her up.
00:41:46.540 Then she started to go a little squishy.
00:41:48.660 There was a transgender bill that went before her desk.
00:41:51.900 It was a simple bill that said, don't let men compete in women's sports.
00:41:55.260 Seems simple to me.
00:41:56.660 And she wouldn't sign it.
00:41:57.900 She wouldn't sign it, presumably because her corporate donors called and threatened her
00:42:01.020 and she caved.
00:42:02.260 I don't know that for a fact, but that seems to be what happens.
00:42:04.940 A similar thing happened to Asa Hutchinson down in Arkansas, Republican Governor there.
00:42:08.580 Okay, so that's too bad.
00:42:09.540 That really makes me doubt that she could be a strong national leader.
00:42:13.140 Then when she went after Walsh in this very lib way of saying, you're a sexist.
00:42:18.160 Look, my eyes are up here.
00:42:19.380 You know, I just thought, okay, that's pathetic.
00:42:20.860 You know, give me a break.
00:42:22.460 So now I think Noem realizes that she's losing her conservative support.
00:42:28.260 The whole thing that brought her up to become a national figure.
00:42:32.780 She's lost that because she's presumably caving to special interests in South Dakota.
00:42:37.920 So now she's going right wing again.
00:42:39.720 She just signed an executive order banning telemedicine abortions in South Dakota.
00:42:45.380 The order directs the South Dakota Department of Health, quote, to establish rules preventing
00:42:49.380 telemedicine abortions in South Dakota.
00:42:51.400 It restricts chemical abortions in the state.
00:42:53.720 It says that abortion drugs can only be prescribed or dispensed by a physician after an in-person
00:42:59.960 examination from a physician licensed in South Dakota.
00:43:02.900 It blocks receiving abortion drugs in the mail.
00:43:07.800 It prevents abortion drugs from being dispensed in schools or on state grounds.
00:43:11.660 And it reiterates that licensed physicians must ensure informed consent laws.
00:43:17.940 Okay, this is good stuff.
00:43:19.520 I like it.
00:43:20.320 I know, you know, sometimes conservatives, they spend more time attacking each other than
00:43:26.000 they do attacking the left.
00:43:27.240 And I get it, especially when conservatives are out of power.
00:43:29.180 There's some jockeying.
00:43:29.880 There's a question of what is the vision here that it has to be done.
00:43:33.360 But something we really admire about the left or that we're impressed by, at least, is that
00:43:38.000 the left knows how to circle the wagons.
00:43:39.520 The left knows how to come together at the crucial moment and do things.
00:43:42.180 And the right doesn't do that as well.
00:43:44.720 So to this, I say, good job, Kristi Noem.
00:43:47.600 This is good.
00:43:48.040 I like it.
00:43:48.440 Good stuff.
00:43:48.960 Other governors should follow suit.
00:43:50.560 Glad to see it.
00:43:51.760 If Kristi Noem went a little squish for a while, the pressure was tough, you know, okay,
00:43:55.000 that's too bad.
00:43:55.900 Let's move on.
00:43:56.820 Let's get better.
00:43:57.360 And don't do that again.
00:43:58.020 And maybe let's just be more conservative.
00:44:00.820 She sees what side the bread is buttered on, okay?
00:44:03.100 And let's keep more of this.
00:44:05.060 I love it.
00:44:05.720 Other governors should copy what Governor Noem did here.
00:44:10.640 Now, speaking of murder in various states in the northern part of America, Kamala Harris,
00:44:17.740 you'll recall, during the George Floyd riots, not only encouraged people to riot in the streets,
00:44:22.920 not only gave spiritual and political support to these rioters and arsonists and looters
00:44:30.000 and killers, but she gave financial support as well.
00:44:33.000 She posted around the Minnesota Freedom Fund, which is a fund to bail out violent people who
00:44:39.300 were arrested for rioting.
00:44:41.540 And she posted this around.
00:44:42.620 Joe Biden's staff members did the same thing.
00:44:44.180 Okay.
00:44:46.340 The Minnesota Freedom Fund just posted bail, posts bail for a lot of criminals, not just
00:44:52.160 the ones associated with the George Floyd riots, including 47-year-old George Howard,
00:44:56.340 who was being held on domestic assault charges.
00:44:58.760 Okay.
00:44:58.900 So, Kamala Harris says, support this jailbreak fund.
00:45:03.780 The jailbreak fund bails out this wife beater, George Howard.
00:45:08.180 Now, according to Minneapolis police, George Howard has just shot and killed 38-year-old
00:45:14.480 Luis Damian Martinez-Ortiz during a road rage incident in Minneapolis.
00:45:19.540 Surveillance video shows Ortiz and Howard getting into an altercation on an on-ramp.
00:45:23.480 And then this guy that Kamala Harris bailed out just killed this other guy, 38 years old,
00:45:28.940 had his whole life in front of him.
00:45:31.540 That, she's not going to get any pushback for it and no mainstream outlets, I suspect,
00:45:36.680 are going to report on it or very, very few, but you'll hear it here.
00:45:41.500 Someone is dead today because of these jailbreak movements.
00:45:49.180 Jailbreak movements that are not only supported in general by Democrat politicians, some Republican
00:45:53.340 politicians too, I'm sorry to say, but that are supported specifically by them.
00:46:00.120 This is how Democrats stop crime.
00:46:02.440 They break out wife beaters so that the wife beaters can go shoot people on the street.
00:46:06.700 In San Francisco right now, they've got a new method to try to reduce crime because crime
00:46:10.780 is through the roof in San Francisco.
00:46:12.560 You thought it was bad that some Californian threw an egg at Larry Elder.
00:46:15.800 Stuff is really bad in San Francisco.
00:46:17.840 So the new attempt to reduce crime is not my, now look, I'm not an expert on criminology,
00:46:25.200 but my suggestion would be arrest the criminals and keep them in jail for a long time and for
00:46:30.180 the ones who commit capital offenses, kill them.
00:46:32.420 That's my suggestion.
00:46:33.860 Okay, maybe I'm, maybe I'm a little thick.
00:46:36.560 I'm a little stupid.
00:46:37.160 I don't, I don't, I, I'm not such a genius that I could pursue what they're doing in San
00:46:42.120 Francisco, which is to pay the criminals.
00:46:46.780 San Francisco, they're going to pay criminals $300 a month not to shoot people.
00:46:53.780 If you don't, if you don't shoot people in San Francisco, you can make $300 a month.
00:47:00.180 I, I promise not to shoot anyone in San Francisco, not just now, but ever.
00:47:06.640 Okay, I promised.
00:47:07.760 Where is my check?
00:47:09.500 Am I going to get my check?
00:47:11.740 I don't think this is going to work.
00:47:14.620 One, I don't think it's going to work for me to get the check.
00:47:16.420 And two, I don't think this is going to work to reduce crime.
00:47:19.300 I think that the left is getting this just totally, totally backwards here.
00:47:24.780 And I think that crime is going to shoot through the roof and we're now subsidizing
00:47:29.760 criminals apparently.
00:47:31.120 I think statues are going to be torn down.
00:47:33.280 I think our elections are not going to be considered fair.
00:47:37.000 Neither side has faith in the elections right now.
00:47:41.160 We talk about the mean old Taliban over there in Afghanistan.
00:47:46.960 That worries me.
00:47:48.400 It worries me more to see these kinds of things going on here.
00:47:51.660 The sheer control, the capriciousness, the whims of the regime.
00:47:57.700 And we, what, what do we have to fight back against it?
00:48:01.420 I think we still have a little bit of time, but not so much.
00:48:03.780 It's running out.
00:48:04.200 I'm Michael Knowles.
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