On this week's show, the guys discuss the latest in the Michael Vick case, the ongoing investigation into his possible involvement in a massive corruption scandal, and whether or not we'll ever get back to a semblance of normalcy in the world of comedy again. Plus, a look at how much money you should be getting from betting on the Stanley Cup Final between Canada and the U.S. Women's National Team.
00:04:45.120In a new era of artificial intelligence, we are prioritizing our most important politicians to have their insights on the day as it stands, namely one Joe Biden.
00:04:58.220Like, if you were going to pick one politician to put into the AI box and just sort of have something to spew out auto-pen-wise, wouldn't it be Joe Biden?
00:13:20.280I saw the Dugan tweet that immediately said, you know, it was it seems like it was Mossad, which you think, no, it probably was like red wine and cheeseburgers.
00:13:28.680I mean, that's what would take out most like older senators.
00:13:32.220You know, it's not a very healthy lifestyle.
00:14:52.220Yeah, well, here's the key, I guess, on this point is when you read a tweet like that from Dugan,
00:14:58.360he's not actually saying the Mossad killed Lindsey Graham, which nobody believes.
00:15:02.480What he is doing is acting as an operator for the Russian government
00:15:07.340Because his political ideology is basically Russian greatness.
00:15:13.120And so what he's doing is he's playing on these divisions that he sees within the American right that comes from the Israel issue or anything else.
00:15:20.000But he's not making an observation as a philosopher.
00:15:25.340And it's pretty clever what he's doing because some people are going to entertain him.
00:15:27.700But how did he become the voice of America, though?
00:15:30.860There's absolutely no distance between Alexander Dugan's philosophy and Tucker Carlson's.
00:15:35.600I mean, they're basically saying the exact same things. How did, how did that happen?
00:15:39.720Oh, I think, I think Dugan, I think Dugan is more entertaining. I have to defend Dugan a little bit. I think of him as like the first Herbert of, of political philosophy. Like the stuff that he comes up with is so wild and bonkers. I don't know how he does it, uh, under, without the influence of drugs. I don't, you know, but it's one of these things where it's like, at least Dugan has the advantage of being someone who I think you can identify on the spectrum as being, as you said, Michael,
00:16:05.600an operator, an operator for a specific country and a specific type of nationalist agenda.
00:16:12.140And yes, that is what he was trying to do there. I do think, and I would just ask people who are
00:16:17.560listening to come to the site tomorrow at the Daily Wire, because we should have an interview
00:16:23.700up with one of Lindsey Graham's oldest friends, a consultant who worked for both him and John
00:16:28.940McCain, Bob Heckman, who I interviewed this morning. And he told me this story, which I had
00:16:34.080never heard before his daughter was going to school at the uh going to college at the college
00:16:39.260of charleston uh and uh he went down there and uh lindsey met her for uh for the first time
00:16:47.200he had you know uh been giving her advice about charleston and and and uh south carolina where
00:16:52.760i grew up and uh and he uh bob told me that you know he walked away with my daughter and he had
00:16:58.660this very deep conversation with her and i and i didn't know what they were talking about and then
00:17:03.640she walked back to me and she said uh and i said you know what what did lindsey say to you and she
00:17:09.320said well he asked me if anybody was bothering me at the college um and if anyone was giving me a
00:17:15.500hard time and i said no and then he told me well if anybody does just let me know and i'll have
00:17:22.120them killed because i'm a senator and i can do that and if you know lindsey that is that is exactly0.61
00:17:29.060where his form of humor would go. I only met Senator Graham one time. I met him in the early
00:17:35.400days of the verdict podcast when Senator Cruz and I were covering the impeachment and he brought
00:17:39.800Lindsey Graham over one day. And something that really surprised me, but it goes along with your
00:17:44.200story, Ben, is the guy was uproariously funny. Like he comes in, I always thought of him as just
00:17:50.320a kind of milquetoast, kind of neoconservative, whatever kind of Senator. And he just walks into
00:17:55.280our basement studio. He goes, what the F is this? Shag carpet? Am I on the set of an F and 70s
00:18:00.760porno? What is this? You know, he said, no, this is a podcast studio, Senator. What the F is a0.97
00:18:05.920podcast? And he's like, he was so funny, very gracious, very generous, really knowledgeable
00:18:11.300guy, and just a killer, killer politician. You can see all that trial lawyer training really
00:18:16.720came out in his personality. And the thing I'll say about him, I know a lot of people hated his
00:18:20.160foreign policy and his immigration policy. And, you know, he was kind of a neocon. Yeah, including
00:18:24.680me, by the way. So I get all of that, but the one real political virtue he had, and I know a lot of
00:18:31.560people think this is a vice, he was a partisan. He was a loyal party man who understood that
00:18:37.020politics is a team sport, and he would work with people. It's how he survived into the Trump era
00:18:42.340after running against Trump. He was a very talented politician. He did a lot of good,
00:18:46.520even amid bad things that we don't like about his career, and I think he'll be sorely missed.
00:18:51.080i i also think i disagreed with his i disagree with his foreign policy too but i i thought it
00:18:57.340was important that he was there i thought i thought that's a voice you know every everybody
00:19:01.020in america only has half an opinion so you have to have the other half of the opinion there as well
00:19:05.480and i always thought it was good to have somebody uh close to trump saying just just bomb him just0.95
00:19:10.260kill him you know i i think it was i mean just wasn't as bad it wasn't as bad as john just one0.98
00:19:14.660one point i would just make about him i think he would bomb the toilet but it was it was useful to0.97
00:19:19.280have him around this this is this is one thing and i and i don't want to dominate this even though
00:19:24.140i mean i i knew lindsey for almost 30 years and and my opinions about him changed a lot over that
00:19:28.840time but one of the things that i think people underappreciate is that as a partisan and you're
00:19:35.380both right michael and drew as a partisan a lot of the role that lindsey had was keeping weak
00:19:42.360republicans in line and that's something that he was actually doing i think people underappreciate
00:19:48.040This iconic moment that has been repeatedly shared since his death of him defending Brett Kavanaugh, everyone sort of focuses on the fact that he is attacking the Democrats with moral authority and with total strength in his argument.0.97
00:20:03.980He's also sending a message to the guy who's sitting at the end of that committee line, Jeff Flake, about you better not be a pussy on this because you've got to hold the line and we will judge you if you don't hold the line.0.83
00:20:17.660And I think that that's a role that he served within this Trump era to great effectiveness.0.95
00:20:23.360And I think without his voice in the room, Trump's going to have some problems with the Senate that he that he maybe could have had helped by the fact that Lindsey was the guy who was advocating in the room and who could convince people that, yes, this is the right thing to do.
00:20:37.080This is the right way to make a stand.
00:20:39.200And, you know, when it comes to Lindsey Graham, I know that a lot of people who are extremely critical of his sort of overall foreign policy, leave it to me to be significantly less critical of Lindsey Graham's overall foreign policy.
00:20:48.700There are places where I disagreed with him, for example, intervention in Libya and all of that.
00:20:52.820But here's the thing about Lindsey Graham. The guy that American power in the world is a good thing, that American power in the world is actively a good thing.
00:21:01.060And he may have erred on behalf of the idea that there was sort of an over-optimism about what American power could accomplish when applied in different places.
00:21:09.260But there's no question that he believed that America was a force for good in the world and that an expansion of American power was better for the United States and better for the world, which is a far cry from a huge percentage of our current population on the horseshoe right and the left, all of whom seem to agree that American power in the world is bad.
00:21:24.840You want to know why Tucker agrees with Dugan?
00:21:26.720Because he believes that American power in the world is actually a bad thing.
00:21:30.200And it's why all of the same people, from Nick Fuentes to Anna Kasparian, were out there literally celebrating Lindsey Graham dying.
00:21:37.220It's because, actually, Lindsey Graham was very, very pro-America, and that manifested, again, sometimes in a sort of chauvinistic politics abroad.
00:21:45.720But it also manifested in the idea that when it's between the United States and Iran, that's not a choice.
00:21:50.460When it's between America's allies and our enemies, Ukraine and Russia, that's not really a choice.0.70
00:22:21.000I believe that Fry is up for that seat.
00:22:23.240Fry has a heavy advantage in the Calci markets right now.
00:22:26.180And Darlene is way down at like 6%, which I assume just means that no one expects that she's actually going to run to fill her brother's seat.
00:22:32.700Well, guys, as you know, I spent most of this week not sleeping.
00:22:36.240But had I been sleeping, I would have been on my Helix Sleep mattress.
00:22:39.920Because never have I missed my Helix Sleep mattress like I have this week.
00:23:35.280Did we talk about Joe Biden's book enough?
00:23:37.620Wait, I want to hear about this a little bit more, Ben. Just a minute.
00:23:41.840You know, this thing about American power not being a good thing, and I'm not a big war guy.
00:23:47.820I'm not happy to have war going on. But as opposed to what? I mean, Alexander Dugan, as Knowles points out, is looking for a re-dominant Russia, a new Russian empire. But part of his theory is that the wonderful Christians in Russia have to team up with the Islamists who seem to me just, you know, to coin a phrase, batshit crazy. I mean, they seem like absolutely just a destructive force.
00:24:14.660and so where does this come in where does it come into america where suddenly we have guys like1.00
00:24:20.220tucker carlson basically saying the same thing oh the muslims love the christians and the russians
00:24:25.200are wonderful and they're just things are going so well in russia it's it's all nonsense i mean0.91
00:24:29.600you talk about laughing at candace i mean it's like laughing at this stuff would be a good idea
00:24:33.500as well it's just complete nonsense so how does that seep in how does this propagandist for the
00:24:38.640russians seep into american politics because i think what he's done is actually really smart
00:24:42.960Well, I think what he's done is really smart. What Dugan has done is he has targeted the idea that secular liberal globalism is the dominant force in American politics since World War II. This is the argument he makes. And that ignores a wide swath of American history, ignores the very religious 1950s. It ignores the strength of the 1980s. It ignores the fact that America has been much more religious than Russia for legitimately the entirety of America's experience.
00:25:06.320It ignores the fact that, as you say, Drew, I mean, who else is on the block?0.53
00:25:11.580But the thing that he is doing is he is critiquing what he sees or what he portrays as a sort of LGBT flags on the bombs that we're dropping.
00:25:21.300And you see Tucker mirroring that sort of perspective.
00:25:23.820And so the idea is that American power abroad is a flex on the part of a globalist left.
00:25:28.620And by globalist, Tucker means about three different things, none of them correct.
00:25:31.740But, you know, he kind of lumps those all together.
00:25:34.160And then the counter to that is supposed to be this new anti-Reformation, early Eastern Orthodox church kind of stuff that is linked up with Russian nationalism.
00:25:45.500And Tucker looks at that and he sees a bunch of crossover, which is why you'll see Tucker promoting feudalism.
00:25:49.440Or you'll see Tucker promoting the idea that the economics of the United States have to be brought back to agrarianism.0.96
00:25:57.540You'll see him promoting kind of all this revanchist bullshit that is being promoted by our enemies because our enemies are smart enough to recognize that if we actually did that, we'd be screwed as a country.1.00
00:26:05.900But Tucker is either too stupid or complicit to realize that.1.00
00:26:09.640And so he's perfectly happy to mimic the nonsense of people who legitimately want to destroy the country.1.00
00:26:13.760I mean, Alexander Dugan would be ecstatic if the United States fell.0.96
00:26:17.380So would the Iranians, so would the Chinese.0.51
00:26:19.500And Tucker has spent legitimately the last two years propping up pretty much every propagandist he can find on behalf of those three countries especially.
00:26:56.780the things that they've created that comes out of tragedy tragedy that has been repeatedly created
00:27:02.460by their the people who govern them i just don't see that there's just not something there that
00:27:08.580you can you know find any way any path forward that is beneficial to people but the other aspect
00:27:14.160of this and just just one more note on the on the lindsey point like as much as you can say you can
00:27:19.840disagree with lindsey's optimism or his hubris i would say when it comes to the the things that
00:27:25.260he thought could happen in the Middle East. What I think that Lindsay got right and what all these0.82
00:27:29.880people get wrong is that Lindsay understood who our true enemies were around the world and that
00:27:35.700we should take them seriously, that we should listen to them when they say things about us,
00:27:39.580that we should believe them when they threaten us. So when Iran says we want to kill President0.82
00:27:44.800Trump, it means they want to kill President Trump. They're not exaggerating that. They0.92
00:27:48.880actually want to do that. And they've tried multiple times. This is not, you know, and that's,
00:27:53.240I mean, by the way, that came as a shock to Tucker, as I recall, when it came up on a podcast with Mike Huckabee.
00:27:58.400But it's like this is this is the kind of thing that Lindsay understood.
00:28:01.980And I think, you know, for again, we cannot play innocence abroad in a world that is not innocent.
00:28:07.500We have to understand, take these threats as they are, appreciate how much we have to respond to them in order to defend our people, to defend American values.
00:28:16.120And that doesn't mean we need to be the policeman of the globe.
00:28:19.660It does mean that we need to use American military might to great effect.
00:28:23.240which i think the president has done very effectively in his second term and that's
00:28:28.260something that you know is is at odds with all these different people who i think are trying
00:28:32.300to pull the wool over people's eyes about the threats that actually exist but the thing i have
00:28:37.000a question for you sorry actually there's a question that i'm interrupting you with i think
00:28:40.980the thing you're about to say so you're about to start talking about how the reformation sucked in
00:28:44.960all of this which which we know we know you believe that but you you had a tweet a little
00:28:48.420bit earlier this week in which that i thought was kind of fascinating you say you know conservatives
00:28:52.540are always talking about where history went wrong and some people will say the reformation and some
00:28:56.640people and a half-joking tweet obviously but only half-joking and and you say that nominalism is the
00:29:02.320place where sort of history went wrong and and i kind of want to get a little bit deeper on this
00:29:07.080for a second because i actually do think that this is a great way of distinguishing between various
00:29:11.220strands of thought i think that if you ask tucker carlson where he thinks that history went wrong
00:29:15.060i think that tucker carlson would say that history went wrong in about 1939 uh that we sided with
00:29:19.620some of the wrong people and that when that america before the before world war i think
00:29:23.740i think he would say when women had the right to vote i know i mean but tucker has overtly had on
00:29:29.700people who actually make this argument i mean he says that america lost its soul for example
00:29:33.260when we dropped the a-bomb on japan he says that that you know the the world war ii didn't have to
00:29:38.200go like it did and it robbed the west of its of its forward momentum and its soul so he clearly
00:29:42.440thinks something went wrong in that period of time and and there are other people obviously michael
00:29:47.140you can give your own theory i think that one of the aspects of american conservatism that makes
00:29:50.820it different maybe from other strands of conservatism is that we don't think everything
00:29:55.040went wrong okay like i don't think everything went wrong i think some things have gone wrong
00:29:59.660and many things have gone right and i think that the idea that america is a place where everything
00:30:03.820went wrong leads you down this black-pilled path of maybe dugan is right maybe actually america
00:30:08.460should see power in the world maybe we are dominated by secularist forces that make us
00:30:12.560evil and terrible or maybe a lot of things in america have gone right making us the most
00:30:16.400prosperous and powerful country in the history of the world. And yes, we've strayed from many of our
00:30:22.020founding principles, but we've also maintained a lot of those founding principles. And that makes
00:30:25.540us still the best bet on the block. And so I think that the sort of tendency, and again, I'm by nature
00:30:31.140a pessimist, but the sort of conservative tendency toward pessimism can lead you down some really0.86
00:30:34.920black-pilled and bad paths when it comes to the United States, which is a pretty white-pill place.
00:30:39.320I mean, America is a place where opportunity and prosperity and power are all combined0.98
00:30:45.860historically speaking. And the kind of idea that, quote unquote, everything went wrong. So take all
00:30:50.480the things that are good and junk them because everything is bad now. It's just bullshit. And I1.00
00:30:54.100think it's a demoralization op. Yeah, no, I mean, that's actually kind of part of the joke I was
00:30:58.360making because it was in response to this guy who I think is Eastern Orthodox, Jay Dyer, was on
00:31:03.900Tucker's show. And he did the thing that all of us conservatives, myself included, I think all of us
00:31:09.400here, it's just part of the conservative DNA we love to do. Our favorite hobby is to try to point
00:31:15.220to the moment when everything went wrong. And it's this fun game. You say, it was the 60s.
00:31:18.980No, it was the French Revolution. No, it was women getting the right to vote. No, it was0.93
00:31:21.940the prohibition. No, it was this, that, or the other thing. And so-
00:42:37.520And where that plays into the political theory here is I don't think that people who say we need to bring the Bible back to schools or prayer back to schools or, you know, a little more religion and public life.
00:42:47.320I don't think they're calling for a theocracy like Iran.0.51
00:42:52.180I don't think they're calling for a totalitarian state like you have in Russia, or an authoritarian state at least.
00:42:57.600I think what they're calling for is the kind of government that we had largely in the United States from the beginning up until the middle to late 20th century,
00:43:04.740where you taught the Bible in schools, where we had blue laws, where we had established churches for decades after the ratification of the Constitution,
00:43:12.100where we had cohesive communities, where we had, as John Jay writes in Federalist No. 2,
00:43:16.580We had a people descended from a common stock with a common language, with a common religion.
00:43:21.160Thank God, the common experience of the independence, the War of Independence he's writing.
00:43:24.840You know, it's not to say that you're going to become an ethno-state.
00:43:28.220It's not to say that you're going to have some mandatory sort of religious requirement or anything like that.
00:43:33.280But there must be, in these United States, some kind of unity, some sense of community.
00:43:39.100That's not a false community, but an organic one.
00:43:41.880I think you're agreeing with Ben here.
00:43:43.360I think, you know, that obviously the fact that we allowed this conversation about souls and the Bible to be pushed out of the open square was a huge, huge mistake.
00:43:53.760But I have to say, I've got to say two things.
00:43:55.360One, first of all, to hear Ben speak so optimistically, I feel my work here is done.
00:44:07.520By the way, not just that I had a baby.
00:44:08.600I think I was uniquely vulnerable to that clip in that moment because we've all watched our wives have babies.
00:44:13.680And I'm not sure that your wife is ever more beautiful than in literally the moment after the baby comes out and they put the baby on her chest.
00:44:19.280And she's not the most physically beautiful person at that point.
00:44:21.820She's the most beautiful human being you've ever seen at that point in time.
00:44:38.000But we did a show on the summer movies. I feel that our culture, our artistic culture, flatlined over the last five years. And I was just appalled. I'd never seen anything like it in my life, except for the books I was writing. Like, literally nothing good was coming out. And I was tossing things over my shoulder and going to the movies. Couldn't stand it.
00:44:56.340this summer everything changed uh steven spielberg brought out a film that was like being an old age
00:45:01.780home i thought like this is this is killing me it's like so old fashions it's so out of date
00:45:06.560and you know spielberg is a genius director but this was just he his time has passed but then
00:45:11.520these two films by two young white men who had been putting out stuff on the internet came out
00:45:17.160one called backroom and the other called uh obsession that were actually new visions you
00:45:22.060You know, they were they were just old horror movies, well done and all this stuff.
00:45:25.360But this film Backrooms, if you haven't seen it, I'm not going to tell you it's a great movie.
00:45:28.980It's not a great movie, but it is a new movie.
00:45:34.480And it's a story of people being trapped through the Internet in their own brains, in a place where the world is being reproduced without the soul, essentially a completely materialist universe.
00:45:45.000And I thought this is so precise, you know, because what I look for is vision.
00:45:48.120I look for an artist working and this is an artist working.
00:45:51.120And it's so precise that we're just an inch away from them figuring out that this is where things went wrong.
00:45:58.040You know, in other words, once people start to see it, that's what the arts do.
00:46:02.320So after five years of just death, where it would have been easy to sit here and say the arts are over, they're never going to come back.
00:46:08.680These plants are growing up through the ice and it's a beautiful thing to see.
00:46:11.940And that's what I think, Ben, the other Ben, you know, I think you should be looking at is not that this is a more chaotic time and probably a more diseased time than the 50s.
00:46:22.740It is, but that we're passing through something.
00:46:25.340And I think we're coming to the end of that passage when a lot of these extreme and self-destructive movements will, God willing, pass away.
00:46:34.880I think that you're touching on something which I truly agree with.
00:46:39.840And by the way, both of those movies are great and people should watch them. The thing that is, I think, happening is that we see these we see these trends in American society burn out.
00:46:51.880we saw the you know the overreaction that happened in the wake of george floyd we saw the overreaction
00:46:59.300that happened around the entire you know me too scandals and everything else like that we saw the
00:47:04.880overreaction uh that has happened uh repeatedly you know backed by the left when it comes to
00:47:11.180america's uh racial reckoning and the like and they burn themselves out because fundamentally
00:47:17.520they're at odds with what most americans think about each other and their neighbors
00:47:21.500and that to me is the thing that gives me hope because i think that we understand that most of
00:47:28.260our neighbors aren't racist most of our neighbors who are flying a flag you know on the 250th they
00:47:33.680are not doing so out of some racial animus most of the people i mean the idea that you know you
00:47:38.980have abc news program the view where sonny hostin says if i see an american flag i think that it's
00:47:44.220racist you know and it's like this that is not real life that is not the way that americans
00:47:50.220think about each other. And no matter their degree of patriotism, no matter the way that they vote,
00:47:56.160I just think that this nation is actually a lot healthier than it seems like it is online and in
00:48:02.980the pages of our media. And I think that the people who have, you know, a relationship with
00:48:08.060each other who can cross those kinds of lines, they're the real people in America. Don't believe
00:48:13.580for a second that there are a lot of people who are like Taylor Lorenz. They do exist, but there
00:48:18.840are not a lot of people who are signing up for that religious experience. That's too positive.
00:48:22.920We're getting rid of Dominic. Sorry. Get out. No way. I can't handle it. You know what I want to
00:48:29.540talk about? Not all that happy stuff. Actually, one happy thing I want to talk about, and that is
00:48:36.600peer talk. Every once in a while, a deal comes along. It's so good. Your first instinct is to
00:48:41.400assume you misunderstood it. I had the same reaction when I saw what peer talk is doing.
00:48:46.200for the first time ever, they're offering any plan, yes, any plan for just $15 a month for your
00:48:51.420first three months. Not just the entry-level plan, not just one special plan they hope you'll
00:48:56.300overlook. Any plan, including their unlimited high-speed data plans, including their top-tier
00:49:01.400plan, $15 a month. So my recommendation is get the best one because it's $15 a month. I'm not
00:49:07.440an economist. I'm not an accountant, but that's the best deal. It's already a great deal at its
00:49:12.360usual rates. The deals are, it's a very inexpensive plan. It is the best service you're
00:49:19.220going to get on the best towers. You heard me say very good towers. I didn't say that. I said
00:49:23.220the best towers. You have US-based customer service, so they will speak English. That will
00:49:27.640be a novel change. The people who run the company support all good stuff. It's a veteran-led company.
00:49:32.540They support all sorts of good stuff. They believe what you believe. Right now, you could save up to
00:50:13.720It's a new, it's a segment where we're kind of like Shark Tank.
00:50:18.300Mostly they just looked at Drew and they said, you're bald.
00:50:20.780That kind of reminds me of Shark Tank.
00:50:22.400Okay, so the new bit, this new hip cool bit, is we are going to take pitches from all of you.
00:50:29.040All of you brilliant, wonderful people out there.
00:50:31.400your pitch, not on some new business where we're going to actually invest our money. You're not
00:50:36.680getting a single penny from me, but your pitch on a policy, some political idea that would help
00:50:41.800the country and improve the world. And so to start us off, we have Alan Morrow. Take it away.
00:50:49.300What's up, guys? It's great to be here. We need daylight savings time all the time.
00:50:54.940Congress is finally doing something. Can we get rid of him already? He already lost me.
00:50:58.840he already lost me. Michael, bear with me. Yesterday, the House of Representatives passed
00:51:04.180the Sunshine Protection Act, which would make daylight savings time permanent and end the
00:51:08.820dreaded twice yearly time changes that are forced upon us. Some of the consequences that we deal
00:51:14.500with and think are normal. In the immediate aftermath of this, fatal car crashes increase,
00:51:19.260there's an increase in heart attacks, 8% increase in strokes, and Michael, people's cortisol surges.0.99
00:51:24.840Your surging microphone is all right now with this stupid proposal, but sorry, finish before I shoot it down.0.97
00:51:30.920And some of the benefits of more evening sunlight, it reduces seasonal affective disorder, it increases economic spending in the afternoons and activity, and it gives ice more sunlight to catch illegals.0.99
00:54:10.680That what will happen is that businesses will start opening later and staying open later.
00:54:13.700And so what you're actually doing is you're instead of of having, you know, the clock adapt to the businesses, you're just going to have the businesses adapt to the clock.
00:54:21.380And same thing with schools. You'll have schools that open later and close later.
00:54:24.420And it's just going to weird out everybody's brain for a few years.
00:54:27.700It doesn't make any actual difference, guys. The sun comes up when the sun comes up and it goes down when the sun goes down.
00:54:33.060So, you know, I lived in I lived in England for a long time.
00:54:36.700And at Christmas time, you could literally stand in Hastings and watch the sun rise and fall in about 15 minutes.
00:54:42.920So just the entire day went by like a fast motion.
00:54:45.680And look, they had Shakespeare and built an empire.