PornHub EXPOSED ｜ Undercover Reporter Arden Young
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Pornhub and its parent company, MindGeek, have come under fire for what some have suspected for a long time. They ve been accused of allowing minors access to porn, and now they ve admitted to it. This is a breaking news story, and we're here to break it down.
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Let's say you're 12 years old, you try to like push the envelope as much as you can, be like,
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okay, can I hint at like, buy content here? The thing about trans angels, which is a site,
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they sell that to straight men. Can I, can I like talk more about like,
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what if we brought a trans talent onto the site? Porn in all of its forms are so normalized to
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them and they're so callous to something as serious as a child being able to view pornography.
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This is a breaking news story. I'm really pleased that we were able to get this story and we did not
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do the investigation. This investigation was undertaken by a wonderful news group. This
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would be sound investigations. I am joined here by one of the journalists, Arden Young. Arden,
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thank you for coming on the show. Thank you so much for having me, Michael.
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So Arden, before we get into how you conducted this investigation, what it all means,
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I want to just show people some clips of, of what you've uncovered because some of us have suspected
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that Pornhub and its parent company, formerly called MindGeek, now it's called ALO. They have
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to keep changing the name because they're an evil company and they don't want to have to face the
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music. Some of us have suspected that they've been up to these kinds of activities for a while.
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Let's say you're 12 years old. You're still figuring out your sexuality, maybe even your
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gender. Wouldn't it be helpful to see, not a celebration, but just like maybe a normalization
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of something that you think is what you want, you know? Probably helps a lot. Let's say I was 12
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and I saw like trans angels. I saw all these different sites. It would help me figure out
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They need to try to push stuff that's more, less, less accepted. Like putting a, putting
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a trans male or trans female in a scene, you wouldn't get that on a normal mainstream site.
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So test it out. See if you get a bigger audience with it. See if you can convert somebody, right?
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Like maybe somebody who's never looked for anything like that might find it interesting and click
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on it. Same thing for buy stuff, same thing for gay.
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That's another senior script writer at MindGeek now called ALO, but we all know it as Pornhub.
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That's just the biggest pornographers on the planet. Two major discoveries here. One, they
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know that kids are looking at their content. They're totally fine with it. It obviously helps
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their business model. We all knew that. It's crazy to hear it in their own words. We all knew
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that. The second discovery to me is the most shocking. Senior script writer here at the biggest
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porn company on earth saying, yeah, we're trying to convert straight guys into looking at gay porn
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or trans porn. We're always trying to push the boundaries. We're not even just serving the market
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that already exists for porn. We're trying to create new markets by creating new desires in people
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that they do not previously have that are certainly out of the mainstream, that are considered more
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deviant. And we're going to slip that content into the porn to expand the palette, I suppose,
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of the customer. I can't believe they're admitting this.
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I know. I mean, I was sitting across from him. That was probably one of the last things I was
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expecting him to say. My instincts were to just ask him about the kinds of things they were marketing
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to people because I knew he does primarily work on gay and trans pornography sites. That's mainly what
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he writes. And he was very, very open. He was very matter of fact. And in fact, he, like you saw,
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he even viewed kids viewing porn as a positive thing.
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So you, you're conducting this interview. This guy obviously has no idea what's going on,
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but you'd think if, if you were working for so degenerate a company and you were engaged in such,
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even today, frowned upon kinds of behaviors, you might play it a little closer to the vest,
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right? He didn't though. Did it take much prodding or was he just open about this?
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He was extremely open about this. And this, we're talking about Dylan in particular,
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the senior script writer for ALO. He was extremely open, extremely obliging,
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did not think my questions were strange or out of place at all. And it goes to show you kind of the
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mindset these employees of this company are in. Porn in all of its forms are so normalized to them
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and they're so callous to something as serious as a child being able to view pornography.
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But of course we all know. And in fact, in one of your interviews, you, you mentioned that the,
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the median age of exposure to pornography now for kids is something like 11. Frankly,
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I'm surprised it's that high. I would even suspect it might be lower. Maybe today it is lower.
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We all know that kids are accessing porn and that's how the porn companies cultivate and groom
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their, their future crop of customers. Cause kids' brains are very, very malleable. If they
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get addicted to this stuff when they're 10 or 11 years old, they're going to stick with it for a
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very long time. Most likely again, it's horrifying. They should be prosecuted for it. It's just evil.
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It's great to hear them admit it. The thing that is so shocking to me, I guess, is that we have been
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told for my entire life by the left, by the, the pro pornography people, by the sexual revolutionaries
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that sexual desire is innate and immutable. It's an orientation. Nobody becomes gay, bisexual,
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trans. It's not that you, you're just, you're born that way. And how dare you suggest how do I,
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we'll probably be kicked off of social media for even, for even repeating what this top porn employee
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is who writes the stuff, who knows, who knows what he's talking about, what he is admitting on camera
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will probably be kicked off even for repeating it. But what he is saying is, yeah, nah, that's all bunk.
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Actually, yeah, you can convert people. That's how our business model works. You got to slip in this
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weirder stuff. So you take a guy who's been straight his whole life, who's never entertained
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any other kind of thought. And then you try to get him. Well, actually you went even in greater depth
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with him. Let's play that clip. The thing is, it's like when you write for like Sean Cody,
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which is like primarily gay targeted, when you write for trans angels, it's trans female presenting
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targeted. You also try to see how much you can take of that and bring it to mainstream vanilla content,
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right? Because like Brazzers and Reality Kings is predominantly for straight men, but you try to like
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push the envelope as much as you can. Be like, okay, can I hint at like, buy content here? Can I, can I like
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talk more about like, what if we brought a trans talent onto the site? And you kind of like take those risks
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to try and broaden it a little bit more, even though you know that you have a site dedicated to that, right?
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Because the thing is, the thing about trans angels, which is a site, um, it's female presenting trans
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women. It's, and like, they sell that to straight men. Like that's the demographic.
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There it is. There is, they are, they're trying to trans the straight guys. I mean, that's not my
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words. Don't, Hey, Hey, social media companies, don't take me off for saying that. That's what the
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senior writer at mind geek, the guy who writes all of this porn, he is saying, we are trying to
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take straight guys. Our target demo is converting straight guys into trans guys.
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Yeah. And you know, I think, I think he meant convert in the marketing sense, which doesn't
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really make it any better. Um, what's it's the same sense. And yes, I, there's a whole conversation
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we had about the business model and capitalism, but it, when we're talking about a product that
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involves at a very deep level, your own desires and your own identity,
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then when you convert people to the product, you're converting them in their desire and their
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identity. Exactly. And I think they're completely motivated by profits. They just want to make
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more, a wider variety of content, more palatable and, um, more profitable to the single viewer.
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Um, and you know, going back to children accessing pornography, we're seeing more and more ID laws
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passed in the U S. So now in many states, it's required to verify your age before entering a
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pornographic site. Um, ALO and the parent company of Pornhub is actively suing some of these U S
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states trying to stop this from happening because they openly admit that requiring their ID before
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accessing porn actually drives down their traffic by 80%. So for them, protecting children is not a
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concern. Maximizing profits is 100% their concern. And they don't seem to care who they harm in the
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process. Of course not. I thought it told the whole story when Utah first passed, I think it was Utah
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passed that, that, uh, ID law and instantly Pornhub said, okay, we're not doing business in the state
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of Utah anymore. He said, well, there you go. There, there you have it. Arden, tell me a little bit
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about the investigation itself, whatever you can without compromising your methods.
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Of course. Uh, well, we were inspired to investigate Pornhub in the first place because of a 2020 New
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York times article called the children of Pornhub. It really detailed, uh, struggles of often underage
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people to get their abuse videos taken off of Pornhub, which were being advertised and monetized.
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Um, so Pornhub was benefiting monetarily from these videos as well as the abusers uploading the
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videos. And through months and months of requests and begging Pornhub to take these videos down, uh,
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the videos were not taken down. Only after legal action was taken, this article came out, did Pornhub
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start really getting scared and taking these things seriously. But our premise for the whole
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investigation was maybe their concern was just lip service and maybe these things are really still
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going on. So that's what we sought out to prove. And we did, we have, um, multiple previous undercover
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videos we've published that detail, just the lack of agent consent verification for pornographic uploads
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and pornographic ads going on the site. Um, advertising porn to appeal to pedophiles and young teens.
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Uh, we just have a plethora of undercover footage that we've been putting out.
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You would think, well, this is a ridiculous premise, I guess, but if you were an executive
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at Pornhub and you had any modicum of a moral conscience and you found out that you've got child
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pornography on the site, that there are ads being targeted to pedophiles. And that the moment that
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you say, no more kids get to look at Pornhub, your users drop by 80%, that that would cause you to
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reflect and say, well, this is really bad, but they don't. Instead, they say, if you make us
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in any way, try to keep kids off the site, we're going to boycott your whole state.
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Exactly. And in those states now, the only way to access Pornhub is through a VPN,
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which they also own, VPN hub. Um, and up until not too long ago, it was actually rated for ages
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So VPN hub, is that, is that's obviously not just a porn thing. If it's a, if it's ages four plus,
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it's just a VPN that anyone can use to mask their, right. It's just a VPN owned by Pornhub.
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Wow. Have they explained why they keep changing the name?
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I, you know, they, they went through a new ownership at the beginning of 2023. It was actually
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bought a firm called ethical, ethical capital partners. Um, and so they went through this
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entire rebrand and renamed it a low because of, you know, all the bad press they'd gotten under
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mind geek. So I think they're, they're really, they, they tout themselves as the, the leader in
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compliance, the leader in ethics of the adult industry. But if they truly are the leader in
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ethics of the adult industry, we have a huge problem.
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People have written into me and whenever I've covered, I interviewed a former porn performer
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and, and had a long interview with him and people would write in about their terrible relationship
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to porn. Young men write into my show all the time. They say I'm addicted to porn. I've been
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looking at it since I was 10 years old. And I have read accounts of men who say I was just a straight
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guy. I was just a normal straight guy. I was married. I was not. And then I fell into this kind
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of weird trans porn. And now I think I'm a chick or, or you'd hear for, I interviewed a trans widow,
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a woman who whose husband left her to go pretend to be a woman. And I, I spoke to another expert on
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this subject. And she said that pornography use, even like mainstream stuff, the biggest porn company
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in the world, Pornhub, porn use is an extraordinary predictor of people falling into this transgender
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identity. This is something, again, I don't think I'm allowed to say it on social media. This part
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will probably just have to be behind the daily wire paywall or on X. But I don't ever want to hear a
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social media company say that that's disinformation. They've got to take me off, off the air for saying
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that again. You're hearing it straight from the horse's mouth. Absolutely. And you know, we've
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gotten a comment from ALO before on our past releases where different employees admit to
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different things. And in one of them, they actually allege that the employee is too high ranking to know
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what he's talking about in the video. He's, he's too powerful. How could he possibly know what his
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underlings are doing? You've got to be kidding me. Yeah. So their responses to us have just gotten
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increasingly ridiculous. Um, you know, they've actually bragged about the fact that they report
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fewer incidences of child exploitation to the national center, um, child exploitation or like
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missing and exploited children, um, which is a requirement for us based companies. So they're
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bragging that they've reported fewer incidences to the NCMEC than other major tech platforms.
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But the logic says, actually, you should be reporting as much as you can, because we know
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these things are happening on a platform literally dedicated to pornography where random users are
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uploading pornographic videos. And by the way, if a user's face is not in a video, if it's filmed from
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the neck down, say, which is very, very common, it is impossible for these content moderators to verify
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that a face on an ID matches a body. And we have one of the employees saying it, that he was very
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concerned about that loophole, as he calls it at one point. But when he brought it up to leadership,
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he was told to F off and shut up. So there's this loophole gaping wide open for children to be uploaded,
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for, you know, young teens to be uploaded or, you know, date rapes, different rapes, um, to be
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uploaded. And, and no one would know. There's so much more to say about this. I'm, I know you're
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very busy. Thank you for giving me so much of your time. Uh, the takeaways here for me,
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if you are a private individual, call your Congressman. If you use the political order,
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this is, this is as clear cut a case for, for proper political action as I've ever seen.
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Stop looking at porn. If for no other reason, then the senior writers here are saying they
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want to make you gay and trans. Okay. They want to screw up your head and twist your desires
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and, and wrench your very identity. If for no other reason, at least out of self-preservation,
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don't do that. Arden, incredible, incredible work. Thank you so much for coming on. Can't wait
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to hear more. And I can't wait to hear the excuses from these psychos. Thank you so much,
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