The Mikhaila Peterson Podcast - October 25, 2022


166 “We Didn’t Want To Become The Kardashians” | HeavyDSparks On Success


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00:00:00.000 i go to lay down and as soon as i close my eyes i see the matrix i see all i like a binary code
00:00:05.200 like ones and zeros ones and zeros and i was like i'm just tired just tired yeah and then from there
00:00:11.200 i i opened my eyes and my hand was like uh you ever seen a goofy movie um i was literally
00:00:17.280 everything was the same color in the same animation as the goofy movie like i literally
00:00:21.680 felt like i was in a cartoon and i was like oh boy here we go
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00:02:09.080 Dave Sparks, welcome to my podcast.
00:02:17.920 Hi, Makayla. It's good to see you again.
00:02:19.720 Yeah, good to see you too. How are you doing?
00:02:22.020 Really well. Yeah, actually, I can honestly say never better.
00:02:27.500 Wow. Okay. I feel like I feel the same way. That's good.
00:02:31.580 You look great. You actually look really, really healthy. It's crazy to see your evolution of,
00:02:35.640 you know obviously you've come a long ways from when you were really sick and then
00:02:38.800 your progress has been phenomenal thanks when when did we talk that was oh it's been
00:02:44.300 probably almost two years yeah okay so you we spoke when I was like taking care of my dad and
00:02:50.880 in a rough spot right so I think you were overseas you were somewhere yeah you were definitely weren't
00:02:57.580 in the country Serbia or something yeah you got married since yeah yeah think things are drastic
00:03:03.920 have drastically improved. So before, I mean, we're started, but for anyone who doesn't know
00:03:09.000 who you are, can you give a brief background about who you are and what it is you do?
00:03:13.320 Yeah. Basically, I'm a guy living the American dream. I've started a few different businesses
00:03:19.960 over the years and every business that I've started has basically provided me with an
00:03:24.300 opportunity. It started as a hobby, right? And they say, don't make your hobby your profession
00:03:29.640 because you'll get tired of it. And that's one thing that hasn't happened to us. So basically,
00:03:33.920 in a nutshell because it's a really hard question to answer people ask me this all the time in fact
00:03:37.680 people ask my wife and my kids and and nobody really knows how to answer it um i am in the
00:03:44.120 i'm an entertainer in the automotive world um that's kind of where we got started and we had
00:03:50.200 a tv show on discovery channel uh we still do i started filming in 2015 uh it's called diesel
00:03:55.140 brothers we are on season number eight or nine i can't remember they all kind of blended together
00:04:00.820 So our new season comes out in October. And then we're also YouTube content creators. We are search and rescue kind of professionals. We volunteer time and services to be able to go help find missing people, you know, extract large vehicles and equipment from dangerous situations.
00:04:23.000 So that's crazy. Yeah, we do a little bit of everything, but basically everything we do, we just document and we film it and people love it. So that's a very, very long answer to a short question, but that's kind of what we do.
00:04:38.360 So how did you go from, so your business was diesel sellers and you started that. How did that get transformed into a TV show?
00:04:48.400 So it's interesting. We started the business back in 2012. And in 2012, Facebook didn't really have any rules or algorithms. I mean, it was just kind of a wild west out there. And if you posted something, it could go viral with no rhyme or reason behind it.
00:05:06.480 so we started this page about trucks because we originally um bought and sold trucks and we still
00:05:12.120 do that's one of my businesses we have a truck dealership but basically we would take the trucks
00:05:16.260 that we were uh buying uh for resale and we would post videos of them because these were unique
00:05:20.940 trucks uh unique vehicles and we would put those videos on facebook and the video started getting
00:05:27.040 like hundreds of thousands of views like overnight and so we realized that we were onto something and
00:05:31.900 so we took that and we built it into a community a facebook community which was called like diesel
00:05:36.460 trucks for sale or something. And I realized that that wasn't a very catchy business name.
00:05:40.100 So we came up with a diesel seller's business name and that turned into less focus on the
00:05:46.220 trucks and more focus on us as the guys that were driving them and showing them and doing these,
00:05:52.240 these goofy things. And so we took that a step further and started creating YouTube content,
00:05:55.840 which was like pranks with the trucks and pretty much anything automotive related,
00:06:00.740 but not only automotive related. It was, it was automotive meets lifestyle.
00:06:04.040 and we had a couple of videos that went crazy viral and Jay Leno originally saw one of those
00:06:10.240 videos and he called us and he's like hey this prank is hilarious I love it I want to have you
00:06:14.100 guys on my show yeah it was wild so he had us on the show on a segment that he used to do called
00:06:18.760 prank you very much and the day after that show aired our phone just started ringing non-stop from
00:06:25.840 different networks all over the place and we really didn't want a tv show because we had heard
00:06:30.180 all the horror stories about you know these people it's like the guy at the mall that gives
00:06:34.380 you his card right and he's like hey i'm gonna make you a model and make you famous and we're
00:06:37.380 like that's we didn't but we didn't believe that that was something that could actually happen or
00:06:41.760 or on the other side of it we didn't want to become the kardashians we didn't want to become
00:06:45.880 these people that were uh you know make being made look silly on tv until one day discovery
00:06:52.880 like one of the top producers called us because we've been blowing them off forever and uh this
00:06:57.940 guy says hey i want you guys to know did we were discovered like we're not some talent agency we're
00:07:03.600 not we are discovered corporate and we're going to guarantee you guys eight shows in the season
00:07:09.640 and all you have to do is just let us come film and so at that point i was like okay let's take
00:07:13.760 a little more seriously they came out uh filmed a pilot loved us and we just started filming and
00:07:19.500 never stopped so that's that's kind of how that evolved and out of that tv show we've created
00:07:26.040 a bunch of different spinoff, both on YouTube, online, Facebook, and on TV, a bunch of different
00:07:32.760 series. And, you know, it was originally all based around the trucks, but my goal was to
00:07:40.740 branch out of that just because trucks are cool and I love them, but that's like this much of my
00:07:46.020 life. I do so many other things. And so that's kind of how the TV show was born when it aired
00:07:51.560 on tv or on a discovery channel back in january 2016 it was their number one new series premiered
00:07:59.260 that aired like in 50 years or something it's a crazy number yeah so the show did really well and
00:08:04.660 they originally were hoping that the show would you know go into the automotive niche and and
00:08:10.160 kind of cater to those 35 to 65 year old men who want to watch cars and trucks get fixed
00:08:17.040 but it quickly became a family show it became a show that moms and dads and kids and basically
00:08:23.580 everyone from the babies to the grandparents were watching together because it wasn't just
00:08:28.220 about trucks it was about us and our lives and our families and the stuff that we do and the goofy
00:08:31.960 you know pranks and things like that so it uh it became something that was never intended to be but
00:08:36.860 it became exactly what i would have hoped it to become uh if that makes any sense because uh like
00:08:44.020 i said just working on trucks and cars it's that's that's it's too little for me i think
00:08:49.400 bigger than that i guess yeah i can kind of understand the like the concern about being
00:08:55.500 niched into one area right and the thing about a niche is you need a niche to get started and
00:09:01.800 the trucks are kind of where that catalyst that got us out there and you know people started
00:09:05.620 recognizing us and then from there it's just all just a matter of what you do with it and how you
00:09:10.920 have you leverage that platform and we've been uh we've been fortunate enough to leverage it in
00:09:15.340 ways that other automotive creators and and uh you know tv show talent didn't do yeah got stuck
00:09:22.320 yeah there's actually something to that right you can get your one shot at kind of popularity and
00:09:28.360 then there are things you have to do to keep that going or to grow it right otherwise you can just
00:09:32.680 fade away right exactly so that's the that's the thing that i didn't want to have happen see
00:09:37.440 I think so many people and this is this is a this is a important point for kind of everybody right
00:09:44.980 now anybody who's trying to become relevant or an influencer or anything like that the harder you
00:09:50.240 try to be relevant the less successful you're going to be because it's obvious right you see
00:09:56.380 those people that are out there constantly doing things to try to get people's attention and a lot
00:10:01.660 of times they're doing things that aren't natural to them they're doing things that they think people
00:10:06.400 want to see but if the camera wasn't rolling they might not be doing that specific thing
00:10:11.480 and it's obvious they're acting and so we we're not actors we're legitimately just guys with
00:10:17.100 a lot of different interests and we have the resources and the ambition and sometimes stupidity
00:10:23.920 to pursue these things and it's worked people can tell that it's natural it's authentic and
00:10:29.120 there's been times where we've kind of gone dark on both social media and tv because we weren't
00:10:34.260 really doing anything that we felt we needed to share at that time. And I think that is where you
00:10:39.520 see people able to step up to the next level because it's growth, right? You can't, like you
00:10:45.980 were saying, if you get stuck in that same world for too long, you become stagnant, you become
00:10:50.180 stale, and you have two options, either just disappear and become completely irrelevant or
00:10:54.460 try too hard and continue to try to like be front and center. And neither one of those were great
00:11:00.680 options for us. And so we just decided to keep living and growing and doing new things. And
00:11:05.860 when we found something that we were excited about, we turned the camera on and it worked.
00:11:10.660 Fair enough. Okay. I have a question. So in 2012, when you, when you started the shop,
00:11:17.300 did you have any like outline for your life or have you kind of just gone with the flow,
00:11:23.200 like becoming kind of famous? Was that random or were you striving towards that?
00:11:29.360 so one thing about me is i'm not a great planner um and it's not that i don't have the ability to
00:11:36.960 plan it's that i don't like to because i have a very dangerous uh skill but i didn't really know
00:11:42.260 that i had back then and it's the ability to like we were just talking you know before we got started
00:11:47.680 to manifest things really quickly and so if i think about something if i think about it for
00:11:53.600 more than five or ten minutes it's done and it happens subconsciously this thing that all these
00:11:59.120 things come to me without me working towards them without me saying okay today I'm gonna I'm gonna
00:12:06.020 get this I'm gonna get that it's just I want this I want that thing so bad and I one thing I'm really
00:12:12.820 good at is visualizing myself having the things that I want um and I didn't you know this has all
00:12:17.560 become kind of mainstream now right you've got the you've got the secret the the secret the law
00:12:22.560 attraction all these different things that people talk about and I remember 2000 2010 2011 a friend
00:12:31.780 of mine introduced me to the secret right that's like the the kindergarten where everybody starts
00:12:37.740 in the world of personal development and I remember watching it and I was like this is weird
00:12:43.340 because this is what I do I didn't know I had a name I didn't know there was a process I just
00:12:47.640 pictured what I wanted. I would feel the emotion of when I would accomplish that goal, even though
00:12:53.160 I was years away. Like I used to, here's a good example. I used to drive down the road in my car
00:12:57.680 or my truck. And I one day went and did a demo flight in a helicopter and I became obsessed
00:13:04.520 with helicopters. Well, I grew up lower middle class. You know, my, my dad was sick all growing
00:13:10.880 up we didn't have a ton of money and so a kid like me shouldn't have had ambitions or or not
00:13:17.760 necessarily ambitions but shouldn't have thought that he was gonna be able to own a helicopter
00:13:20.320 anytime soon but I went into the demo flight and fortunately after the demo flight I mean the the
00:13:25.700 place where I went was like hey you should become a pilot professional pilot get you trained and it
00:13:29.180 was like 80 grand and fortunately I couldn't afford it at the time and I say fortunately
00:13:33.880 because I would have hated to become a professional pilot they wouldn't be able to take all the fun
00:13:38.560 out of it so uh anyways i would drive up and down the road in my truck and i would pretend like i
00:13:42.760 was driving or flying the helicopter after that experience because it was so cool to me and i
00:13:47.280 just wanted to like put my stuff in that mindset and it wasn't it wasn't necessarily intentional
00:13:52.480 at the time saying okay if i do this you know two years from now i'm gonna have a helicopter i just
00:13:56.520 really enjoyed the thought of like man this feels like i'm flying a helicopter how would it feel if
00:14:00.080 i actually had my own uh 2016 i bought my first helicopter um helicopters aren't you know they're
00:14:06.020 not cheap and they're not easy to, to get into that world. And this was, you know, five years
00:14:13.360 after my first experience with one, I was able to go buy one. And since then I, that's all I do is
00:14:18.540 helicopters. I love helicopters. I've got all sorts of different helicopters. In fact, I just
00:14:21.320 bought a Black Hawk helicopter from the U S army. One of the only privately owned, privately used
00:14:28.820 Black Hawks in existence. I mean, they buy them and they fight fires with them, but I bought it
00:14:33.440 to fly my family around. So that's just amazing. Yeah. It's really cool. So I, when I heard about
00:14:39.500 vision boards, you know, you've heard this, uh, everybody talks about that. I was like, okay,
00:14:44.540 that's something I should do. So I went to the internet and I pulled off a bunch of pictures
00:14:47.920 of things that I loved or I wanted, or I thought were cool. And I, you know, made a collage. This
00:14:53.500 was back in 2011, 2012. Uh, and I, I ordered it from some company online and they sent me a big
00:15:00.220 poster of it and i hung it up and it was cool but i didn't spend a ton of time like looking at it
00:15:04.580 every day it's just those things were things that i wanted and somehow deep down inside i knew that
00:15:10.000 i could get well 2015 2016 i looked at the vision board it was like wrapped up in my closet in fact
00:15:17.600 we were done filming with discovery one day and i was cleaning out my office closet and i came
00:15:21.760 across my whole vision board which had since been rolled up and tucked away and i was like i should
00:15:25.860 look at that. Pulled it up. Every single item on that board. Oh, that's I'd already accomplished
00:15:31.480 is wild. So to answer your question, I don't look too far into the future because it's dangerous
00:15:39.640 for me. Um, if I think about wanting to own something, I'm going that direction, whether
00:15:46.360 I like it or not. So I have to be careful now, now that I understand the power that I have and the,
00:15:50.760 the way that my, my subconscious works, I have to be very careful with the things that I put
00:15:55.600 it right there because if i'm going for something over here but i put this right here is something
00:15:59.460 that i really want i'm feeling the emotions of accomplishing that goal you better believe i'm
00:16:04.080 going that direction and it might sidetrack me from going this way so uh oh i like that yeah
00:16:09.420 interesting okay i like that that would have sounded way out there to me uh probably a while
00:16:17.260 ago now probably more like eight years ago right but i've had similar strange experiences now
00:16:22.760 nothing to the degree of like helicopter but um i had my dad was always very set on goal setting
00:16:28.840 right like write out what you want and then aim towards it and you'll get there right but i always
00:16:33.580 thought that was because when you think about something then subconsciously you work towards
00:16:37.580 it whether or not you're thinking about it right and that could be part of it but i i did have an
00:16:41.960 experience right before dad got really sick i wrote out i was like what do i want i've got some
00:16:47.040 opportunity here i didn't have very much money but i was like i'll work really hard what what do i
00:16:51.860 want. And I wrote like 12 things about what I wanted and then put my journal away. And then
00:16:57.340 dad got really sick. And I didn't look at that journal for another year and a half. And I really
00:17:01.600 had spent most of my time taking care of my dad. So I hadn't been focusing on work at all, really,
00:17:06.060 but I had accomplished all the things I'd written down in the journal. Right. And I was like, oh,
00:17:10.820 that's really strange. Right. Because I, it wasn't something I looked at every day. It was something
00:17:15.140 that I'd thought of like once was like, no, I really want these, but I don't really have time
00:17:20.380 right now because i was taking care of dad um there's definitely like i don't exactly know how
00:17:25.600 reality works but it's definitely strange right so i see what you're saying the thing is it's not
00:17:32.520 it's not reality because reality is is what most people grow up thinking you got to set goals and
00:17:38.300 you got to work towards them and you know you're slowly checking things off that list um you know
00:17:43.880 the the real reality of of how things work and how people that are ambitious and have the ability
00:17:52.200 to manifest things that all happens like i said subconsciously it happens without us knowing it
00:17:59.060 but it's deep down inside of us i think it i think it boils down to emotions um if you can feel
00:18:05.220 something you can have it even if you don't have it and this is that's a it's a pretty elementary
00:18:10.220 concept, but if you really dig into it, you know, take, for example, anxiety. There's a lot of people
00:18:17.540 that struggle with anxiety and fear and, you know, borderline depression, even if they're not
00:18:23.600 clinically diagnosed. Well, one day when I was talking to a friend who had, you know, he was
00:18:30.960 talking to me about some anxiety that he had and some issues, I was hearing him out. And after the
00:18:36.820 conversation I said listen this may sound crazy and you know no offense but your anxiety sounds
00:18:43.380 a lot like excitement to me because the emotion is kind of the same if you think about it if you're
00:18:48.540 excited about something you get those butterflies you get like your heart rate you know increases
00:18:52.780 and you get kind of in a go mode well anxiety does the same type of thing physiologically to you you
00:18:59.940 know your heart rate increases but the problem is it's how you're framing it so I learned I just
00:19:05.660 learned this on my own and later on confirmed through different teachings that anxiety and
00:19:11.300 excitement can be the same thing. It just depends on how you frame it in your mind and what you
00:19:17.400 turn that thought and that feeling into. So if I was ever feeling anxious, I can take that anxiety
00:19:23.380 and I can turn it into excitement or one of my goals. It's just a matter of what I'm thinking
00:19:27.560 about. If I'm anxious about, you know, in the early days of our business, making payroll and
00:19:32.140 being concerned, I could turn that anxiety into an excitement for when we got paid on a big deal
00:19:38.880 or whatever it was. And it was a small shift, but instantly my day would become better. And I would
00:19:44.660 just not allow those negative thoughts that were attached to that emotion to be there. Instead,
00:19:50.440 I would just move a positive thought over to the same emotion, the same feeling, and boom,
00:19:54.520 everything just got better, easier, and less resistance. I think that's ultimately what it
00:19:59.500 goes down to is if you focus on resistance you're gonna run into a hell of a lot of resistance it's
00:20:05.320 just that's just the way it goes you know it's so funny and people think that this is uh people
00:20:10.700 think sometimes that these concepts are voodoo or a little bit out there and uh i disagree
00:20:17.560 completely because like we're talking with with the queen you were literally just yesterday
00:20:22.860 thinking about that now does that mean that you put the queen in the hospital no but that means
00:20:26.980 that there was some sort of very unpopular some sort of wavelength that connected there for you
00:20:32.660 and you kind of felt or knew or thought of something before it even happened because
00:20:38.240 you know whatever happened to her was going to happen a long time ago you just caught
00:20:43.820 you caught a hold of that energy yeah i think that wavelength that energy that frequency
00:20:48.680 you caught a hold of it i really think that's the absolute truth and it's no different than
00:20:53.980 a radio in your car, when you change the channel, you're catching different frequencies, which are
00:20:57.520 different songs. Well, that's something that a man invented, right? Or, or, you know, people
00:21:01.420 created a radio and that's something that's primitive and simple. Imagine the things that
00:21:06.600 we can't see and that we don't understand. They're out there. I think we're just giant antennas,
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00:22:34.580 Okay, this is a side note. Have you done psychedelics before?
00:22:38.000 so I have done ayahuasca um I did it once I had a group of friends that uh was kind of way into it
00:22:46.460 and I watched a couple of friends change drastically they um you know they went from
00:22:52.520 having lots of emotional issues and they started getting better and I noticed it and I called them
00:22:58.560 you know called them out and said hey what's going on what are you doing what's different
00:23:01.800 and they told me about their ayahuasca journey and uh I thought it was super fascinating um I'm
00:23:07.120 the type of guy that I don't, like I told you, I don't dwell on negative things. And so if I think
00:23:12.600 back, a lot of people do ayahuasca to deal with past trauma or things that are inside of them that
00:23:18.760 they feel are agitating. I don't really feel like I have a lot of that stuff, but that's probably
00:23:24.140 because I don't ever think about it. So I knew that deep down inside, there was probably things
00:23:28.320 inside of me that I just wasn't giving any attention to. And so I was like, all right,
00:23:34.700 let's dig into this and see, you know, what happens. And ayahuasca is, uh, have you ever
00:23:39.940 done it? No, I've done, I've done like heroic doses of shrooms multiple times, but I haven't
00:23:45.720 done ayahuasca. So ayahuasca is different than shrooms in the sense that it's more of a,
00:23:51.740 there's definitely a psychedelic component to it, but it's more of a, a DMT release where you're,
00:23:59.120 you're able to basically remove yourself from yourself and take a look it's like a surgeon you
00:24:06.960 know coming into the hospital taking a look at his patient and saying here's the problem there's
00:24:11.540 the problem boom let's go in there and uh so we did the ceremony typically when you do a ceremony
00:24:17.080 of ayahuasca that everybody sit around with a shaman and he plays the drum and sings and
00:24:22.320 everybody's just kind of hanging out it's very hippie you know feeling the way that we did it
00:24:25.680 anyways. Um, and they make it, like I said, a ceremony. It's not like I would ever, or an
00:24:30.880 individual would ever go by themselves and drink ayahuasca. That's not usually the way it's done.
00:24:34.620 I'm sure people do it that way, but in order to have a good experience, you got to have the
00:24:38.220 control to set in the setting. Right. So we do it and they're passing the cup around and it's
00:24:42.960 terrible. It is the most disgusting thing. I don't like bitter, anything bitter, like even olives
00:24:47.760 are too bitter for me. I don't, I don't do bitter. Um, and it's super funny. It's super bitter. So
00:24:53.320 it's it's you know it's a poison i don't say it's a poison but it's it's it basically is poison to
00:25:00.700 your body and it makes your body want to you know um you know vomit and and get rid of whatever's
00:25:07.060 inside of you yeah so the past cup around drink the first cup nothing looking around the room
00:25:11.560 people are kind of starting to daze off a little bit after the first cup okay second cup comes
00:25:15.880 around boom nothing so me and my partner diesel dave who you met on the last podcast that we did
00:25:21.560 with you he's a big bearded guy he's sitting across the room from me i'm sitting next to my
00:25:25.460 wife and uh cup comes around again third time and at this point everybody's just like in la la land
00:25:31.440 like everybody's having their own journey and he and i are looking at each other like you feeling
00:25:35.520 anything no you no so we're sitting there oh no completely like unfazed because we're bigger guys
00:25:41.940 i'm 240 pounds and you know we were told that it hits everybody differently so after the third
00:25:47.340 uh cup i was like this is dominant we were like four hours into the ceremony i was like i'm going
00:25:52.200 to bed so i go upstairs uh we were at a cabin and i go to my room and the shaman's like no no you
00:25:57.800 can't don't do it i was just like dude like this isn't working let me let me be let me just let me
00:26:01.960 go go to bed i go to lay down and as soon as i close my eyes i see the matrix i see all i like
00:26:07.580 a binary code like ones and zeros ones and zeros and i was like i'm just tired and just tired yeah
00:26:13.660 And then from there, I opened my eyes and my hand was like, you ever seen a Goofy movie?
00:26:20.300 I was literally, everything was the same color in the same animation as the Goofy movie.
00:26:24.920 Like I literally felt like I was in a cartoon and I was like, oh boy, shit.
00:26:30.060 And so I didn't fight it.
00:26:32.520 I knew that it was happening and I just sat back and said, all right, let's do this.
00:26:36.400 Because I was told kind of what to expect and kind of how to handle it.
00:26:40.180 And I didn't want to try to steer this journey, right?
00:26:42.680 I didn't want to go in there and say, oh, I got to do this. I got to do that. Because I went in
00:26:46.000 there just knowing that if something needed to come out, it would come out and I would deal with
00:26:50.320 it. And literally it just took me on a kind of a, a wild 10,000 foot view of my life starting when
00:26:58.380 I was a kid. And it just started bringing up weird little childhood memories that I didn't really
00:27:03.320 even know that I remembered. And grownup Dave saw those memories like, oh, that's, that's a
00:27:11.560 concern like that's that's it that was a trauma that was an issue that was something that stuck
00:27:15.460 with you that's not an issue and I was able to go stamp stamp stamp stamp and just basically go
00:27:20.100 one traumatic memory at a time and say that's okay that's okay that's okay and the one that
00:27:26.600 stood out the most to me was my mom dropping me off for the first well pretty much the whole
00:27:31.480 first year of kindergarten like I hated that for some reason I just felt abandoned I like I was
00:27:37.560 total mom's boy. I was the youngest. And apparently that was something that really,
00:27:41.620 really stuck with me. And it caused me to act certain ways, even as I got older,
00:27:45.680 as a fear of abandonment. So I was able to take a look at that and say, Hey, like little Dave,
00:27:51.100 you're okay. Like your mom still loved you. She was, she picked you up from school. Everything
00:27:54.680 was okay. Everything worked out. You didn't understand it then, but you understand it now.
00:27:58.480 So that's, that's why I think ayahuasca is so cool because rather than just seeing shapes and
00:28:03.480 colors. And I did see shapes and colors, but you also had a purpose. I was able to go in there and
00:28:08.800 do some actual work on myself that I didn't know needed to be done. So that was my psychedelic
00:28:13.940 experience. Um, and it was everybody, you know, people who do ayahuasca typically do it multiple
00:28:19.260 times because they love to be able to go in there after I was done. I knew that I was done. I knew
00:28:24.860 that I didn't need to do it again because that's just the confirmation that I got, but I'll tell
00:28:29.880 you this the days and weeks after doing ayahuasca is some of my like like 2020 vision it is the most
00:28:39.480 crystal clear you'll ever see and feel and think so that was that was pretty much it do you have
00:28:45.980 advice for say men in their early 20s yes um the world is a way different place now than when i was
00:28:56.400 my 20s um it's interesting because a really good example of this is when i was in my early 20s
00:29:04.000 nascar was still like huge like the one of the highest paid biggest money you know sports out
00:29:11.120 there um you know 10 15 years later nascar is all but dead i mean the the audience isn't there and
00:29:18.080 so that's the reason i bring up that example is because something as big and as as um eclectic
00:29:24.720 and exciting as, you know, being a NASCAR fan can change and it can go away. And so you have to
00:29:31.020 realize that the world is not the same place that it was when your brother was in his twenties or
00:29:35.680 your dad was in his twenties. And so for me, it is the best thing that you can do. And it's really
00:29:45.200 hard sometimes is reach out and find opportunities to help the other people around you accomplish
00:29:54.960 what they want and that that sounds kind of generic but i'll dive in a little bit deeper
00:29:58.160 it's if you have friends or family or co-workers start to ask questions about
00:30:04.960 what they're working towards and what they want because if you start lifting up the people that
00:30:13.040 you're around even and i don't mean like it doesn't have to be big grand things but
00:30:16.880 learning and caring um i think empathy is something that is kind of very rare these days
00:30:26.140 um simply because there's a lot of you know division in our cultures and whether just whether
00:30:33.300 be in the u.s or other countries there's a lot of division and people are being taught that if
00:30:38.080 if you don't see or act the world in the world the way that I do or act the way that I do
00:30:43.680 that's bad and you're part of that tribe and it's like a bunch of tribal warfare so
00:30:51.400 learn what other people are working towards and help them accomplish those goals and understand
00:30:59.980 that if you have the tribal mentality of this is my lane and that's your lane and you're different
00:31:09.100 than me and mine mine is better because this this this that that is very toxic thinking and
00:31:16.020 uh one way to kind of cure that is this is what i did because we're members of the church of
00:31:22.460 jesus christ aka the mormons um when we were 19 we get sent to other countries to go uh act as
00:31:29.120 missionaries. So when I was 19, I got sent down to the Amazon rainforest in Bolivia in Brazil.
00:31:34.300 And I lived in a mud shack and I learned, I learned the value of, you know, a plate of rice
00:31:41.140 and beans. And I learned that in most other countries, they eat the bones and the chicken
00:31:46.440 and they, they don't waste anything. So immerse yourself in cultures that are completely different
00:31:53.960 than yours. I like that. I think that is the number one thing that somebody could do as a
00:31:57.640 young person without family and responsibility go put yourself you know be a foreign exchange student
00:32:03.760 go go work abroad whatever you can do because that will open your eyes to humanity it'll it'll
00:32:12.580 help you better understand why it's so important to to realize that you're not just like your lane
00:32:22.580 isn't the only correct one and your tribe isn't the only correct one go just literally dive as
00:32:30.180 deep as you can into it because everybody i've ever met and known that's done that is a better
00:32:35.460 person for it and they have better people skills and they have a better understanding of how and
00:32:40.420 why things happen and it's uh it's hard because in this day and age we get what we consume so we get
00:32:51.540 more and more of what we consume based off of what the algorithm wants to give us everybody
00:32:55.540 has social media right and if i like dogs and i click on a dog it's going to give me more dogs
00:33:01.620 and so if i am clicking on things that are negative or not healthy for me it's going to
00:33:06.340 continue to serve more and more of that which is why i stay away from um party politics it's it's
00:33:12.980 the most like if you think about it it is the most primitive caveman thing in the entire world
00:33:21.840 like the way that the republicans the democrats talk about each other it is wild and we're sitting
00:33:28.580 here putting up with it so i think a lot of that type of thinking would go away if if people just
00:33:34.820 get out there and experience like yeah what your life is like you know what i mean so that's my
00:33:41.100 best advice. It's get out there and serve, help other people because everything else just falls
00:33:46.080 into place. That's what I did. I'm not a smart guy. I'm not a super talented guy. I'm not a guy
00:33:50.040 with a ton of training. I just put myself out there and I wanted to figure out how to help
00:33:55.180 other people, whether it was being a missionary and teaching about the gospel or going out and
00:34:00.300 helping with flood relief in Texas and New Orleans. If you do that, I'm telling you,
00:34:06.040 you can be the dumbest least talented person in the room and you'll probably be the most successful
00:34:11.480 that is i really like that yeah it worked for me that's my that's my story i i really i really
00:34:17.900 agree with that too i think it's like i thought i was i like i'm a pretty open person and i was
00:34:23.600 like i'm pretty open right and i'm not very conservative so but when i traveled and went
00:34:29.620 to cultures that were like vastly different and i mean like not like going to different places in
00:34:34.480 the us or to like london or something i mean like going to eastern europe or something yeah um i was
00:34:40.860 i was like blown away at how different cultures are like it it shocked me and i was like 26 at
00:34:48.360 that point so it's not like i was 20 and like my eyes opened i was just like oh people are a lot
00:34:53.880 more different than i thought they could be from each other and it doesn't mean that one way is
00:34:57.460 right no it means it means that every way has its beauties every every culture has so many
00:35:04.200 beautiful things about it. So why would we, again, it goes back to that caveman mentality.
00:35:10.340 Why would we sit in our own little circle and hyper-focus on the things that we don't like
00:35:15.640 about other people when instead we could expand our thinking and go focus on the beautiful things
00:35:22.140 about other people? It's literally the exact same amount of effort, if not easier, to focus on the
00:35:27.440 beautiful things. And you become such a happier person. You become somebody that people want to
00:35:32.820 be around think about this if for any of your listeners if you're having struggles in your
00:35:40.340 social life if you're having strife and arguments and constant you know feel like you're always
00:35:45.860 running into a wall think about what you're focusing on in you know a bunch of different
00:35:53.000 areas okay take uh take sports take politics take your hobby take your neighborhood take work
00:36:00.280 take all the different things and think about what you think about most okay if you're thinking
00:36:06.420 about work and you you are always constantly thinking about how bad you hate that job and
00:36:10.920 you can't wait to get a new job well it's easy to take that and flip it and and think about how
00:36:18.140 awesome your new job could be and how what you're doing now is going to be just a step to get you
00:36:22.900 there it's these are small moments of reframing the way that you view hey okay okay i've got a
00:36:28.660 I've got a comment on that. Um, uh, I think I was working on an app for a while that I decided not
00:36:35.040 to release, um, cause I'm working on something else. But what the app did is it helped you
00:36:40.060 identify areas in your life. So like your relationship, your career, your health, and
00:36:45.780 then it helped it. It measured how happy you were on each of those scales. So like maybe you score
00:36:50.840 a three on your relationship cause you're not happy with your relationship. So you identify
00:36:54.100 where the problems are in your life and then you take that problem and you figure out the steps you
00:37:00.420 need to take in order to solve that problem so rather than thinking of the problem as some sort
00:37:04.960 of thing that's going to be stuck with you forever that's going to make your life fail you just
00:37:08.900 reframe it and turn it into oh well that's what I should be working towards solving and it turns
00:37:14.120 it into kind of more like a more positive problem than just this thing that's weighing you down
00:37:19.680 um and i think part of the way i got out of having the autoimmune disorder was i was like okay well
00:37:25.300 i'm stuck with this like this is me i'm stuck with it and it was ruining my life like every
00:37:31.000 aspect of my life and so i decided to figure out you know do whatever i needed to do to fix it
00:37:36.800 right but anyway thank goodness it worked so there's a there's a simple way to do that and
00:37:43.200 that's exactly what i'm trying to what i'm what you're saying to me right now is exactly
00:37:47.000 what people need to do and exactly what i started doing and the very most basic simple way to do
00:37:53.520 that is to do this wake up start your day as soon as something hits you uh that creates for me it's
00:38:02.620 dread dread is my most dread and frustration are my two most powerful emotions that cause me to do
00:38:08.060 stupid things and they and they they literally i feel like when i feel those two things i'm in a
00:38:13.320 cement box and i can't move and i can't make any progress catalog those emotions or those feelings
00:38:19.980 or those triggers if if going down the road from here's one actually that i cataloged um i learned
00:38:27.400 this from a from a hypnotist um and not like the guy at the carnival but like an actual like
00:38:33.040 therapeutic hypnotist that does um hypnosis on people for that's cool to help overcome things
00:38:38.320 and he said look just just grab a hold of whatever that that negative thing is throughout the day
00:38:42.860 uh and for me the first thing i noticed was a pothole on the on the road down from my house
00:38:47.260 i would hit it every single day and it would just instantly like there'd be a rattle and a shake in
00:38:50.960 my truck and it just pissed me off and i would let it piss me off and and i didn't realize that
00:38:55.760 i was letting it piss me off he says take those things all those triggers throughout the day
00:38:59.820 look at them grab them acknowledge them and then put them on a shelf behind you doesn't mean that
00:39:06.200 you're doesn't mean that you're erasing them or or ignoring them or but it also doesn't mean that
00:39:12.060 you're giving them a ton of time and attention. Take it, acknowledge it, recognize it, make a
00:39:16.660 mental note of it and put it on a shelf. Throughout the day, grab those little things that you're
00:39:20.940 catching yourself feeling, whether like I said, they're negative emotions or negative things that
00:39:25.940 you're thinking or seeing and just put them on a shelf. And at the end of the day, you'll be able
00:39:30.840 to look back and you'll realize that the shelf isn't nearly as full as you thought it was,
00:39:35.800 especially if you're in a really bad place. If you're in a really bad mindset, you're going to
00:39:40.320 that your shelf is going to be chock full of of all sorts of different things it's not my i had
00:39:46.640 like four items on my shelf that really were things that were just triggering me and i thought
00:39:52.400 that i i thought if you would have asked me back then i would have said i got a hundred things that
00:39:56.480 are bothering me i didn't it's usually the same thing over and over again just presenting itself
00:40:01.680 in different forms so um i think a very powerful exercise is to recognize it acknowledge it um
00:40:09.600 because if you try to bury it we all know what happens it's just gonna you know come back out
00:40:14.080 even stronger and and nastier but if you acknowledge it and give a little bit of time
00:40:18.420 and say you're right that is that is something that's affecting me and then you set it aside to
00:40:22.380 be able to to then work through it is it is one of the most powerful things i've ever done um
00:40:29.220 and so it goes right back to what you were saying is it's where we're looking is where we're going
00:40:36.460 right if you're driving your car and you're looking down the road you're going to go down
00:40:39.300 road but if you're looking over you know in a field you'll start to drift off you're looking
00:40:44.740 down at your phone you'll start to drift and it's it's it's so simple and that sounds way
00:40:49.060 too simple but i promise you that is the way it works what you're looking at whether it be
00:40:55.220 physically with your eyes or mentally with your emotions and thoughts that's where you're going
00:41:00.900 so just be aware of what those things are what you think about is what you become that's where
00:41:05.300 where you end up. I like that. Okay, Dave, if people are not familiar with you, where should
00:41:14.460 they go online to find you? So YouTube is where we're doing a lot of our most relevant content
00:41:20.620 right now. I have a Instagram at Heavy D Sparks, Facebook page. It's called Heavy D. Both those
00:41:26.760 pages are verified. They've got like three to four million followers on each of them. So you'll be
00:41:30.780 able to know which one they are um but youtube is is the really fun one for me right now and that's
00:41:35.400 one where you'll be able to get a better idea of what i say when i say that i'm not just a truck
00:41:40.920 guy like you know one day we're looking for the body of a missing person and the next day we're
00:41:46.140 finding the body of a missing person and the next day we're we're jumping monster trucks it's just a
00:41:50.600 it's a smorgasbord of of our life and and the best part about it is we became one of the fastest
00:41:56.960 growing youtube channels in the world uh when we started posting back in end of 2020 um you know
00:42:04.160 we're growing every month it's anywhere between 100 to 200 000 new subscribers wow um and it's
00:42:09.840 because we're creating content for everybody you know the crime junkie moms that stay home and
00:42:15.440 listen to murder podcasts all day all the way to the gear heads to the old guys that wish they were
00:42:20.960 gold miners we we do it all and it's not forced it's not me looking for like hey how can I talk
00:42:27.320 to this group how can I talk to that group it's me saying oh wow that gold mine is really cool I
00:42:31.800 want to go explore it next thing you know boom it's blowing up so definitely check out the
00:42:36.160 YouTube channel Heavy D Sparks there's stuff on there for literally everyone and and you may not
00:42:41.540 believe me but once you go to the channel even you Michaela I think you would go there and you
00:42:44.940 would be like wow this is I had no idea that I was interested in you know this missing person
00:42:50.160 or whatever it is or or the exploration of an old mine um and one thing i'm really proud of
00:42:56.300 is the cinematography i've got an incredible media team and every single video that we make
00:43:04.100 whether it's just a dumb stunt or something very meaningful feels like a miniature movie and that's
00:43:10.300 cool yeah so that's something we're really proud of and we're we're continuing to get into that
00:43:13.520 We're getting ready to do some mini docu-series on some really twisted stuff that's happened with missing people and stuff that we're aware of.
00:43:23.620 Stuff that you would see like on Netflix, but we're just going to do it for free and put it on YouTube because it's good practice for us.
00:43:29.800 And we want to continue to sharpen that axe and get really, really good.
00:43:33.680 So long story short, I think I went from being, you know, a TV automotive entertainer to, I want to be a storyteller.
00:43:45.340 I want to be able to tell stories.
00:43:47.820 You're good at it.
00:43:49.060 Thank you.
00:43:49.420 This has been very entertaining.
00:43:50.980 You're good at it.
00:43:51.580 It's one thing that I'm really trying to focus on because it's something that I enjoy.
00:43:55.060 And if I enjoy it, other people are going to enjoy it because they'll feel my energy and my passion.
00:43:58.700 just like you i love listening to your podcast especially you know the some of the episodes
00:44:02.860 you've done with your dad because you can feel that there's just this like excitement in the
00:44:07.420 room because you love what you're doing you guys absolutely are passionate about it and i think
00:44:12.940 that's that's you know final piece of advice for anybody listening is if if what you're doing isn't
00:44:18.580 working think about do you enjoy it yeah are you are you having fun doing it does it get you excited
00:44:25.640 does it keep you up at night if it doesn't you know maybe it's time for a change maybe not maybe
00:44:30.800 maybe you do need to stick with that and grind through whatever you're working on but uh the
00:44:34.760 more excited you are about something the more excited everybody else is going to be about it
00:44:38.920 as well so that's that's that's what works for me yeah i like that and people can stick it in too
00:44:44.280 like if you can't you can't just necessarily quit your job and focus on your hobby but you could
00:44:48.980 maybe focus on your hobby for half an hour a day or like 45 minutes a day and just see where it goes
00:44:55.560 when you start paying attention to it okay that brings me to one thing i gotta mention because
00:44:58.820 you do have what's your audience your audience is um like 25 to 35 year olds mainly but then it kind
00:45:06.640 of goes out from there and on youtube 70 men okay so it's male heavy yeah so this is good this these
00:45:14.080 are my people these are the guys that i talk to all the time um and this is something that bothers
00:45:18.440 me like crazy in in today's culture you hear a lot about side hustles you gotta have a side hustle
00:45:24.060 You got to have two or three side hustles. I disagree with that. There's nothing wrong with
00:45:30.060 a side hustle if it works for your current lifestyle and what you're doing and what's
00:45:35.400 going on. But I think so many people, and I say this because I employ a lot of people and I've
00:45:40.580 had a lot of people work for me and I see them all start their side hustles. And the majority
00:45:45.980 of those people that start their side hustles end up lacking here. Like there could be somebody
00:45:50.260 that I was getting ready to move up to a great position with you know a huge raise and I see
00:45:54.980 them start a side hustle and within three to six months they are usually gone they're new they're
00:46:00.480 no longer working for me so just know that you don't have to have a side hustle your side hustle
00:46:06.660 instead could be converted into doing your job better because you don't know what's around the
00:46:13.080 corner if you if you have a job where you know even if you don't know that there's room for
00:46:18.240 advancement just know that take that energy because it's there right the side hustle energy
00:46:23.720 and and if you have a great idea for a side hustle and you think that's what you want to do and go
00:46:28.880 do it but if you don't or if you're not sure in the meantime take that energy and put it into what
00:46:36.320 you're doing do what you're doing the very best and don't do it half-assed and all of a sudden
00:46:42.560 things are going to start to come to you and happen that you would have never expected i've
00:46:47.220 had guys in my organization, a few of them that instead of taking a side hustle route, they dug
00:46:51.860 their heels in and worked harder for me. And those guys are in significantly better positions now,
00:46:56.780 and they're getting paid more than double what they were getting paid back then. So it's very
00:47:05.320 valuable to create value for somebody in a business and just know that not everybody's
00:47:12.440 an entrepreneur. There's, there's intrapreneurs. There's people that can work within a business
00:47:17.180 and be way more valuable in that business than they would be able to be on their own. So
00:47:21.540 that's a, that's something that guys need to hear because there's almost like a shame.
00:47:26.680 Yeah. Okay. I like that. I'm glad you brought that up now. Like, uh, I'm glad you brought that
00:47:32.040 up because it's true. And also a lot of side hustles, hustles are just a waste of time in
00:47:36.920 general. So you have to be like specific about what you're, what you're working on. Um, but I
00:47:41.880 think one of the ways that people can become more valuable is to figure out where a problem is. Like
00:47:46.900 if you're working for, this is what I did working for my dad. And then I managed to like, I managed
00:47:50.920 to grow that business massively. Right. And all I really did was I saw a problem and I was like,
00:47:57.440 okay, I'll fix that. I'll do that. Like I can do that. Oh, Hey, this is annoying you. I'll take
00:48:02.340 that over. Or you're working on this. I can do that for you. And then when I've hired people,
00:48:07.600 because there are a bunch of people working under me now, the people who are really valuable are
00:48:10.780 people who say oh there's a problem i'll i'll handle that and i'm like fantastic now i don't
00:48:15.900 have to do it and you don't have to be smart or educated you just have to spot problems that
00:48:21.300 people are having and say i'll take that away from you yeah rather than focusing on them yeah
00:48:25.800 yeah you become somebody who can say that's something that i can take on i can handle it
00:48:30.660 that's that's like i said the guys my most valuable guys are the people that found the
00:48:36.520 dumb things the stupid little things that i would trip over and then made it go away
00:48:40.640 and yeah those guys are gonna have i'm always gonna take care of those people and to be honest
00:48:45.840 with you i'll probably be able to take care of some of those guys significantly better than they
00:48:49.940 would be able to take care of themselves on their own that makes sense yeah so cool okay dave it was
00:48:55.840 nice talking to you thank you so much for coming on absolutely it's my pleasure good talk with you