The Mikhaila Peterson Podcast - JBP, Woke Universities, Parenting, Politics, Acting & Education ｜ Bryan Callen EP 203

00:00:00.000 The idea that you would come up to me when I was younger and say,

00:00:03.440 hey, you know that conflict that's been going on since Moses had a parting of the ways with the Pharaoh?

00:00:08.380 We're going to stop it. How? We're going to put up tents and threaten not to go to class.

00:00:13.300 It's like the Israeli military, hey, they're doing, they have a very aggressive drum circle in Harvard Square. 0.62

00:00:19.640 Let's wrap it up.

00:00:20.880 You know.

00:00:24.620 Ryan Callan, welcome to my podcast.

00:00:26.980 Thank you very much.

00:00:27.960 Thanks for coming over here.

00:00:28.880 looking at my brand new shirt and I feel like it's a little tight, but I'm, I feel good.

00:00:33.620 No, you're pulling it off. Thank you very much. Okay. Okay. So you came over from LA. Well,

00:00:39.460 before, before we get into anything, can you give a brief background about who you are and what it

00:00:43.180 is you do? I get in trouble. I get paid for what I got in trouble for my whole life in school.

00:00:49.060 I'm a professional jackass. I do standup comedy and that challenge never goes away. And, and I 0.92

00:00:55.680 guess I, I studied acting in earnest and I've done a lot of acting as well, but in many ways,

00:01:02.380 I've never been on a set where I didn't want it to be over, but I've never, you know, so,

00:01:07.320 so if you said you can never act again, I'd be like, okay, that's fine. But if you told me I

00:01:10.440 could never get on stage and do standup again, I would die because I think that is that to my core

00:01:17.200 is who I am. And it took me a long time to admit that to myself. So you didn't enjoy Hollywood.

00:01:22.160 you've been in movies right a number of yeah and tv shows and you know i did a wonderful show the

00:01:27.320 goldbergs for i think six years and then i had my own show called schooled and and i was the

00:01:33.040 original cast member of mad tv and i've done all this stuff you know so but it was always the

00:01:38.480 piecemeal waiting around you know you you shoot a script in in chunks in pieces and i think that

00:01:45.140 was always I just my temperament maybe is not doesn't really mesh with that process you know

00:01:55.480 you've got to be if you look at people like Meryl Streep or Daniel Day-Lewis these people that can

00:01:59.960 hold a character for a long time and then hold an emotion and release that emotion in a short

00:02:09.400 little window when the cameras and lighting is just so and just ready and when you're listening

00:02:14.580 to somebody else and you know that is such a peculiar skill set it's a very very in you know

00:02:20.840 it's not that it's impossible to do but you almost have to have to be in love with this meticulous

00:02:26.740 process it's probably a little bit like i wonder if it's something like calligraphy you know or

00:02:33.400 or you know japanese one brush stroke painting you know this it's a very peculiar perfect that

00:02:41.160 one it's a laser beam focus of energy you know so when you watch Meryl Streep if you know how

00:02:46.360 movies are made what's more astonishing is that they're able to do that that way with that

00:02:52.720 intensity and for such a short period of time and then pull back and then do it again from a

00:02:57.560 different angle and then do it again you know and that that that was something that I never

00:03:02.040 found satisfying but yeah but telling a story on stage that you've written that that that's

00:03:09.200 original to you that resonates emotionally with you and that's probably my better way of saying

00:03:14.020 that is when it resonates with some inner truth um for who you really are and then you watch it

00:03:22.080 work you watch an audience get moved by it that's that's incredibly satisfying well that's not

00:03:29.360 acting anymore right i don't think so you probably well acting so acting is is the interpretation

00:03:35.820 right so you'll see like you'll see a song and then you'll have one person sing the song then

00:03:40.400 another person will sing the song and they have it sounds very different because they're interpreting

00:03:43.720 the song on their own tempo their own rhythm their own pauses you know and i think acting is the same

00:03:51.660 way you know you you you bring to the script your interpretation of that character but stand-up is

00:04:00.000 yours you've written it you're doing it and it's do or die and so it's insanely personal

00:04:06.900 was it was it painful to get started like how long have you been doing this yeah it was painful

00:04:11.640 very well it was painful first the first part of the pain was admitting to myself that i i had to

00:04:17.660 do it right so it was admitting to myself that if i didn't do it i was going to be

00:04:23.760 generally dissatisfied over the entire course of my life. Right. And, and, and then the largest

00:04:33.580 fear was regret. What if I don't go for it? Yeah. And then the second part of the fear and pain

00:04:40.080 came from the idea that, well, what if I actually go for this? First of all, is it for me? Who do

00:04:45.360 I think I am? Me? You want me to be a standup comic? I don't know. I mean, I was funny with

00:04:50.800 my friends, but I have no idea how to put that into form. And then you, you take that leap of

00:04:55.560 faith. And, and, and I think when you do something like that, I remember, I remember saying, I'm

00:05:01.360 going to try this. I'm going to try to be an actor and try to be a standup comic. I was dating

00:05:05.340 Patty Jenkins. You know, she is, she wrote and directed monster and wonder. Oh, that's cool. 0.83

00:05:10.320 Yeah. We did it for nine years and she, of course she's my dear friend, but she was also my friend

00:05:16.300 and she really understood me and she said to me i made a speech at a wedding and she said brian

00:05:23.200 you're the funniest person any of us know i got three words stand up comedy stop trying to be a 0.99

00:05:30.620 brooding actor you're not christopher walken you're not robert de niro you are a jackass you 0.99

00:05:36.480 are a clown and and she was one of the first people to say that that's my masculinity stop 1.00

00:05:41.700 trying to be a tough guy you're not a tough guy you're you're a jackass and there is a that's a 0.99

00:05:45.620 masculine quality in its own right and so that she was the first person to sort of give me permission 0.81

00:05:49.780 and recognize that my timing is what it is so then with comedy i so i was opening for my dad

00:05:57.080 for a couple of shows and he goes you're funny you you should try stand up and i said women

00:06:02.260 aren't funny so that's not gonna work and i have no idea like do you just does something funny 0.79

00:06:09.620 happen to you and then you're like i can put that into a bit no so so i think women are funny so 1.00

00:06:15.160 eliza schlesinger is an example of somebody who i think is a killer and i've been watching her

00:06:19.480 forever so some people there are definitely women out there that that are hilarious it's just like 0.98

00:06:25.020 roseanne bar and things like that oh yeah and i think the reason they're funny eliza's a different 1.00

00:06:29.260 animal but like there are comics i think to be a funny comic actually you have to start with i

00:06:37.580 always say um start with the personal questions who am i pretending to be who do i want to be

00:06:44.000 that's a big one um you know what am i what do i honestly revere what am i what am i actually

00:06:51.960 afraid of um and what do i do about that how do i want to die how do i not want to die what do i

00:06:57.100 what do i hope i say when i die what i hope i don't say when i die you know these are the these

00:07:02.380 are really the questions that you um uh you know that that you that you can reflect on and then

00:07:09.460 you'll find a funny answer. A lot of times I do. I mean, I just think it's hilarious that I still

00:07:14.040 want to be a Spanish dancer. That's hilarious. And I never will be. And it's, I want everything.

00:07:19.720 I want to be able to do a backflip. I want to be able to ride a stallion without touching its

00:07:23.820 mane, just, just by controlling with my inner thighs and my taint. That's a real goal. It's

00:07:29.060 never going to happen. But I mean, it's so stupid to even say that I want to be a guy who's connected 0.94

00:07:33.140 to his horse where I can be like, and my horse just shows up. That's hot. You know, I want to 0.99

00:07:38.640 rear up on a horse. I've never reared up on a horse while rescuing a bunch of, I don't know,

00:07:43.980 women who, you know, who their plane crashed in the Amazon. And I came up with bags of food and

00:07:50.200 maybe some booze. I don't know. So these are, these are all my ridiculous fantasies that are

00:07:55.000 grounded in some form of reality. And, and so, um, I, sometimes I'll just say that stuff and 0.70

00:08:02.160 people are laughing, you know, sometimes I'll just literally talk about, you know, I was talking

00:08:06.620 about how much I, my next special, I think the title of my next special is going to be false

00:08:10.940 gods. And it's because of, yeah, because of what I see on Instagram on, on, on, on everybody's

00:08:17.460 selling you something. And, you know, the only person who I find refreshing on Instagram happens

00:08:22.000 to be your father. Everybody else is selling longevity. They're selling, you know, um, they're

00:08:27.280 selling, uh, if you want to make money, you want to make a hundred grand a month. Well, you're

00:08:31.780 thinking small, you should be making a million dollars. All you're going to do is remember these

00:08:35.680 three things thing. I never do these five things. And it's just, it's just selling me shit over and

00:08:41.180 over again. And, um, and that's the stuff I write about. Cause one day I was like, I didn't even 0.99

00:08:46.700 know where to place my energy. I was just like, this is soul numbing. And I, and I, and I, I feel

00:08:52.520 like I'm howling silently at the moon and so put it into your work. And so I, I literally got up

00:08:58.540 on stage and I started talking about that and people loved it or the protesters. Oh my gosh.

00:09:04.040 did you hear what happened today? I don't know if you saw this on the news. Ali Khamenei from Iran

00:09:10.260 tweeted out support for the university protesters and said, you guys are on the right side of

00:09:15.300 history. Oh yeah, I'm sure. Well, Iran has its fingerprints all over the Hamas, the October 7th

00:09:22.040 thing. That's according to multiple sources. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, nobody's talking enough

00:09:28.500 about Iran's role in October 7th. 0.77

00:09:31.060 My thing is just whoever is talking to these,

00:09:35.100 again, this is what I thought was funny.

00:09:36.640 And I did it, I did it.

00:09:37.880 I released it as a clip,

00:09:39.340 but it was like the idea

00:09:41.140 that you would come up to me

00:09:42.280 when I was younger and say,

00:09:44.240 hey, you know that conflict

00:09:45.320 that's been going on

00:09:46.320 since Moses had a parting of the ways

00:09:48.820 with the Pharaoh?

00:09:49.640 We're going to stop it.

00:09:50.840 How?

00:09:51.380 We're going to put up tents

00:09:52.340 and threaten not to go to class.

00:09:55.640 Oh no.

00:09:56.760 And that's my joke.

00:09:57.800 it's like it's like the the Israeli military hey they're they're doing they have a very aggressive

00:10:02.200 drum circle in Harvard Square let's wrap it up they're not gonna stop like you know and then I

00:10:10.540 thought to myself like what would I do like what would what sign would I make I'm my sign would

00:10:18.580 say something like it's complicated you know what I mean I'm not gonna take a side unless you're 0.98

00:10:23.580 kicking babies in the face but um yeah what a ridiculous situation it is but so are most things 0.68

00:10:30.340 uh i went to an art school in in montreal for university and so they were into protesting like 0.97

00:10:36.340 2000 this was 2011 or 2012 and there were already protests i remember looking outside my bedroom

00:10:41.240 window and there were just naked bikers oh yeah it was just a parade of naked bikers and i was

00:10:45.620 like yeah it was something i think at that point it was something against wall street and i remember

00:10:49.980 just being like, you just wanted to get on a bike naked. They're like, because how are these

00:10:56.860 associated? I have no idea. And what are you actually doing about it? Like, this makes no

00:11:00.920 sense. Are those people naked? They're biking. Wow. That's so funny. You say that. Cause I was

00:11:05.240 in Philadelphia and, uh, there were a group of women that were, they were, they were marching 1.00

00:11:10.380 against the patriarchy and they were holding up signs like rape culture is bad and all. And, 0.90

00:11:15.040 and i swear to god many of them it was a bunch of guys that were basically you know gender bending

00:11:21.820 kind of like they were just they were just the kind of guys that looked like that you could

00:11:25.760 yeah you could you literally could they were bending in the wind they looked like they looked

00:11:30.680 like what um like what what a willow would look like it was a man it was so they were wearing

00:11:38.300 beads and they were just aggressively anti-masculine because of course that's 0.88

00:11:43.440 too dangerous and and uh and the women were a lot of them were young gals with they were wearing 0.75

00:11:50.040 just pasties yeah and i was like as protesters in traffic and i wasn't looking at i couldn't

00:11:56.520 focus on anything else i was like and all these philly guys like in garbage truck guys who work 0.99

00:12:01.080 for a living like i show you tits hey tits you know i've never seen a tits in toyota's bro that's 0.99

00:12:08.120 a dirty toyota model on i mean they were just it was just they were just you weren't you weren't 1.00

00:12:13.080 change in the world with your with your march down constitution avenue where the fuck they were 0.98

00:12:18.540 so yeah yeah that's yeah but i i think part of it is also when you're young or or any time 0.94

00:12:26.380 and the world doesn't seem to be making much sense right and the world also seems to be

00:12:33.180 so full of different kinds of noise and and when you are a young person and you're essentially an

00:12:41.240 algorithm think about what it is to be young you know you're young so you would know you've never

00:12:45.880 had any privacy you've never not not been on camera and the truth is they do have your biometrics

00:12:51.880 they do have your data so you are worth really what you can buy and and so they know who you are

00:13:01.160 they know who you're pretending to be who you want to be who you who you are who you really are that

00:13:06.600 that they know what you like and what you don't like.

00:13:09.480 They can program you to hate something

00:13:10.780 and program you to love what they have for sale, right?

00:13:12.980 Yeah.

00:13:13.440 And so I think a lot of kids know that.

00:13:15.680 And when you grow up that way,

00:13:17.640 I mean, trying to feel unique

00:13:19.740 when you are literally a number,

00:13:23.680 they have your genome, they have everything.

00:13:25.460 It must be very, very difficult to feel somewhat mysterious,

00:13:29.660 somewhat like an individual.

00:13:31.280 There are no walls.

00:13:32.560 There's nowhere to hide.

00:13:33.920 There's nowhere to be maybe,

00:13:35.600 you know because when you're young you're really trying to negotiate a sense of individuality you

00:13:41.220 want to be unique you want to be different so maybe i'll put a maybe i'll grow a beard and

00:13:46.200 wear a dress i don't i'll do anything i i wonder sometimes if that's part of what we're dealing

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00:15:24.740 enjoy the rest of this episode and i don't even think this is conspiratorial but i probably

00:15:29.060 believe a lot of conspiracy theories but i feel like tiktok is to blame for so much of the

00:15:35.360 propaganda nowadays and after like after anything dramatic happens my algorithm which is pretty

00:15:42.300 coded to be like honestly it's pretty clean not that interesting content that's what i've kind

00:15:49.340 of programmed tiktok to be uh but after say like the israel gaza situation it was flooded and it

00:15:56.980 looked to me like propaganda that's what it looked like to me and a bunch of my friends who are

00:16:01.320 probably kind of middle of the line they're not super liberal but they're not conservative like

00:16:06.140 from downtown toronto were horrified but what they're by what they were seeing on tiktok and

00:16:10.100 i was like yeah but that's all you're being shown like you're not just seeing what's real you're

00:16:14.100 being shown something and it's obvious and nobody i talked to knew that they were being shown

00:16:19.740 information they just thought that's what the information was that was available so it's like

00:16:24.460 how like i don't know these people they get stuck in like loopholes on tiktok that are either like

00:16:29.540 gender stuff or a war i feel like they're too young i feel like they don't actually think

00:16:36.140 outside what they're seeing i don't even know if they're aware of it yeah i think that part of it

00:16:40.900 is that persuasion technology where your brain stem is going to go to those images and that 15

00:16:47.100 second clip that changes your whole day because it hits you right where you live when you see a

00:16:52.120 child being pulled from rubble yeah whatever it might be and that's that to me is the largest

00:16:57.400 well there are a couple issues but I think one of the larger the things I worry about is that

00:17:02.840 you are now rewarded for amplifying your monologue you know it's it look at our political situation

00:17:09.680 you know Tucker Carlson is famous because of that monologue he delivers he's not famous because of

00:17:16.440 an actual discourse with somebody who has a nuanced pushback. There's no money in that.

00:17:22.480 There's no there's no clicks in that. There's there's what what you want to do is get on

00:17:26.720 something like Joe Rogan and and state your entire world thesis with no pushback.

00:17:34.600 Look at Terrence Howard, an actor who comes on Joe Rogan and says, I've invented my own

00:17:41.020 math and black holes don't exist. Really, Terrence, that's amazing. So we'll just throw

00:17:45.360 away all the science the 300 years of math that that came before you the great actor who in his

00:17:54.040 spare time somehow invented a new math and has decided that black holes don't exist and that

00:18:00.620 one times one is zero or something like that cool bro but but listen we're all talking about it he

00:18:07.960 gets a lot of attention and more importantly there are a whole bunch of people that go maybe he's

00:18:12.480 right since i don't know anything about theoretical math or physics maybe he's right and so that's

00:18:20.040 that's where the money is that's where the eyeballs are and um and if you are for example

00:18:26.700 a nutritionist or a pseudo nutritionist and you want to sell stuff then tell people that a cold

00:18:33.140 plunge and raw honey and you know berries and uh shilajit will cure everything including you know

00:18:42.900 that everything is a metabolic disease and i know that because of all my data here and you know but

00:18:48.760 but if you if you can really if you are good at speaking and uh and if you know how to sound smart

00:18:56.560 okay you can create these false dichotomies there's right and there's wrong okay and i always 0.88

00:19:02.760 say, if you want to talk to anybody who knows shit, they use, they use words like, I don't know, 0.97

00:19:07.780 maybe sometimes it depends. Your dad's great at that. Do you believe in God? I don't like those 0.99

00:19:12.560 questions. You know, that's a much more nuanced question. So, um, and it comes down to whether

00:19:18.760 or not you want to be honest. And I think there isn't a whole lot of money in honesty.

00:19:23.220 So how do you tell the difference? Is there a way? I mean, you, you can kind of, I feel like

00:19:27.520 you can get it from people's vibe online, but it's tricky. So I think I fall prey to that.

00:19:32.020 we all do we all do we all do it's very easy to um the way you the way you um i think the way you

00:19:39.300 battle that is the old-fashioned way you have to read broadly and you have to if you disagree with

00:19:46.500 something make sure you're not you're not disagreeing based on knee-jerk confirmation

00:19:54.660 bias on emotional bias make sure that you actually understand the argument on the other side and read

00:20:00.740 read a broad spectrum of things. So then what happens is you'll earn your opinion. Your opinion

00:20:10.360 will be based on thought, not attitude, not emotion. And all of us fall prey to this. It's

00:20:17.000 very easy. I don't like Kamala Harris. You know why? I don't like her. That's why. I don't like 1.00

00:20:22.600 the way she comes across. She seems condescending. And then I've seen clips of her word salad. That's

00:20:28.740 not fair on my part now i probably don't gel with her in a lot of ways politically and stuff like

00:20:33.800 that so there's that i don't need to know too much but i should do a little more investigation

00:20:38.400 before i i have this broad sweeping dismissal of someone like that you know i think but maybe maybe

00:20:46.720 but then i feel like sometimes that kind of intuitive sense about somebody is spot on

00:20:50.720 i've gone both ways i feel like i came from a place because of who my dad is where i gave

00:20:55.100 everybody way too much benefit of the doubt. Me too. Way too much. It was like, oh, but you know,

00:21:00.820 their childhood was bad or these are all the reasons behind why they're doing evil things.

00:21:06.340 And then I think I got screwed over a bunch of times really badly that took like years to sort

00:21:11.160 out. I was like, oh yeah, I saw that coming. I saw that coming years in advance, but then was like,

00:21:16.660 well, here are all the reasons why maybe I'm wrong, which I think is also a good outlook to have.

00:21:21.300 like, can you think of why you could be wrong about something? But then I don't know, I've

00:21:26.160 like swung in the other direction. And I'm like, so now I get a bad vibe. I'm like, bad vibe,

00:21:30.680 probably picking up on something that I haven't figured out yet. Or, or, or, uh,

00:21:34.720 I love that you're saying this because, and it's good that you're learning this now. Cause my

00:21:38.660 friend who's a billionaire said to me, Brian, you know what the problem with you is? We see

00:21:42.460 the asshole in five minutes and it takes you five years because you think everybody is good. 1.00

00:21:47.280 And it's because that's the way you see the world. And just because you see the world, 1.00

00:21:51.160 that that way doesn't mean there are people that are just impossibly self-interested and 1.00

00:21:57.480 total scumbags. That's a heartbreak though. I don't want to live in a world like that. 0.99

00:22:01.840 Maybe I don't want to face that. Maybe I just don't want to face that reality. I still have

00:22:05.500 trouble with that. You know, I definitely grew up. That's something I've like been actively

00:22:10.240 working on. And it's because of how I grew up with my dad. Cause he told me the same thing.

00:22:14.980 He said, basically everybody's good. That's what I learned was everybody's good. And he still

00:22:19.560 thinks that i don't think that anymore after dealing with a few individuals and i'm like whoa

00:22:23.380 you aren't like me like you're like an alien reptile your dad called it um i did a podcast

00:22:28.800 once once with him and he said there are artists of pain yeah yeah what did that's horrifying yes

00:22:35.900 it is it's malevolence right it's what he talks about um yeah that that's that's always that's

00:22:42.300 always so disconcerting it's just such a you know rogan said something to me we're talking in

00:22:48.060 about somebody that we knew and he said please he's this person's now sober and uh and i was

00:22:54.340 saying nice things about him and he goes do me a favor please don't please don't bet on this guy

00:22:57.840 and please don't be friends with him for my sake and i said why and he said because i know how it's

00:23:03.220 going to end up it's going to break your heart essentially i said man you're you're you always

00:23:08.320 seem to have a very good instinct because he's usually right about that right i said where'd

00:23:12.580 you develop it and i know i have some theories on how he developed it but he said something so cool

00:23:16.880 He said, I spent a lot of time in pool halls, playing pool and trying to get really good

00:23:22.540 at pool.

00:23:23.280 And you know what I learned?

00:23:24.760 I learned there are born winners and there are born losers and born losers will find

00:23:30.220 a way to lose no matter what you help them with. 0.99

00:23:33.280 And I was like, damn, he goes, it's a psychological trait. 0.98

00:23:37.380 And, and I was like, that is so interesting. 0.99

00:23:40.660 It's such a bummer though, to write people off.

00:23:43.040 because then then then what you're saying is that you you have no chance to actually truly

00:23:47.960 have a transformation of the soul and i still don't i still i'll still have my heart broken

00:23:53.600 i still believe in people yeah i'd rather believe in people and look at the world as essentially a

00:23:59.400 good place uh where people are doing their best over the other because the other seems to be a

00:24:06.440 hard place for me to live in it'll turn me hard and bitter and i don't do well with that physically

00:24:12.300 yeah right I don't know where I stand on that I think I actually know I do know where I stand on

00:24:18.960 that just from like when dad started when people started to be attracted to our family you like

00:24:26.140 psychopaths come out of the woodwork fast and so from like a regular because I had like I had

00:24:31.020 student loans in university we didn't have very much money for a long time I didn't have any money

00:24:34.880 for a long time for like I worked all the time with like various jobs and things so I had some

00:24:40.920 money and I was never worried about it but I didn't have very much and then the switch from

00:24:45.060 that to like online fame and having a bunch of money you get approached by people who want to

00:24:49.980 be your friend you're like that's kind of but coming from the background of the average person

00:24:55.500 I meet isn't just an evil person like it's somebody I could make friends with and I swear

00:24:59.800 once you get to like a level then the psychopaths come out and you're like oh you're there's lots of

00:25:05.180 you guys yes yeah it's crazy I don't know it's it's just been a wild experience it's scary

00:25:10.840 yeah because you guys yeah you you guys have have really hit a a level of fame and even wealth

00:25:17.260 that just came out of randomly what totally random right your dad was this academic and

00:25:23.760 and teaching you know what he was a clinical psychologist yeah and then just takes the world

00:25:29.460 by storm it's like what's going on here you know it must be so shocking but i think podcasting's

00:25:36.140 that way for a lot of people too oh for sure when i was when i came up as a comic you didn't make

00:25:40.680 money. You made a little bit of money, but you know, you were, the people are making a million

00:25:44.720 dollars a show now. Like, what are we talking about? What, but you're curating a global audience,

00:25:49.340 you know? Yeah. So it's very interesting. It's also, it's a lot to deal with. Yeah. It's fun

00:25:56.140 though. It is fun, isn't it? Yeah. It's very fun. You said, you said you're working on a special,

00:26:00.560 you know, when, yeah. Well, so this is the part I love because right now, um, I'm carving every

00:26:08.600 detail and i'm so excited like i can see it coming together it's going to be the best thing i've ever

00:26:13.860 done by far and i've done some good specials in my opinion it's the only thing i can watch i hate

00:26:19.200 everything i do but my specials my last two specials i think were i did a special on youtube

00:26:24.000 called man tears which i which i have seen that yeah it's pretty good yeah yeah yeah and then

00:26:28.460 complicated apes um which was an argument against identity politics um and i like those but this one

00:26:35.720 is going to be like I've really I've really dilated on each bit and I was watching um Ron

00:26:42.940 White and there are two comics like Ron White and Sebastian Sebastian's my friend I don't know Ron

00:26:49.780 but I've known Sebastian forever they're so disciplined about carving every word there's

00:26:54.560 no wasted space in any joke it's just it's carved out perfectly you know how a song

00:27:01.380 a good song has like every every every note and word is considered to the nth degree and that's

00:27:10.260 why your ear kind of like dovetails with it it goes with it you know or and it's a wonderful

00:27:14.420 surprise and then you can like certain songs like cashmere by zeppelin is they're still astonishing

00:27:20.060 they're still astonishing stairway to heaven black dog there's some songs like just you know 0.99

00:27:25.800 that i don't care who you are where you're from that shit grooves it's like whoa i never heard 0.97

00:27:32.700 this before and and and uh like you can hear there's this there's some good videos on on 0.99

00:27:38.440 youtube with like you get some like inner city rapper black rapper who's who's never listened

00:27:43.880 to like you know rock and roll necessarily and he hears stairway to heaven or he hears black dog

00:27:49.720 and he's like and they're both like oh what that you know yeah there's something universal that

00:27:54.080 resonates with our with our auditory and psychic structures and zeppelins that thing it's just high

00:28:00.640 math that you never get tired of and and that's that's always the quest with comedy in a weird

00:28:07.520 way like whether it whether you can do it or touch it i don't know but it's always the quest of kind

00:28:12.340 of going this definitely resonates with the zeitgeist and when you feel it and and and so

00:28:18.100 the joke the bit is just like a song you you get the perfect economy of words the perfect tempo

00:28:24.480 the perfect rhythm and that's it and now it's there it's i don't know does that make sense

00:28:29.180 no no that does make sense you are you thinking about that stand up uh i don't know maybe yesterday

00:28:35.840 i was like vaguely thinking about it well i got married to jordan and then he took over a bunch

00:28:40.300 of my work and was like you should do less it stresses you out if you ever want to come on the

00:28:44.920 road and just jump on stage with me you can't you're welcome to oh anytime for real just come

00:28:51.740 on just come jump on stage anytime you want i'll be in nashville i might have to do that in i'm

00:28:56.920 gonna be in nashville at zany's june 14 15 16 i know it's really short but you can get up and do

00:29:01.860 five minutes get up and what we should do is you should start with just a story find a funny story

00:29:07.520 and we'll add we'll add funny jokes in it yeah okay so it's less intimidating and you're just

00:29:14.140 getting up to tell a story. Oh, I could do that. I have a lot of really depressing,

00:29:18.140 really depressing stories that are somewhat funny. Good. Let's talk about that. Oh, that sounds fun.

00:29:23.300 And I'll totally, I'll totally help you. Uh, cause I know, I know you're 100% thinking about

00:29:29.080 doing it. Why? Just cause I mentioned it. Cause you're like, no, maybe I don't think so. Yeah.

00:29:33.560 It's so it's terrifying to even mention, but I think you need to do it and I'd be happy to

00:29:38.960 be the catalyst. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I think I'm going to take you up on that. I have to try it

00:29:43.240 now i know how to help me and maybe i'll quit we'll see no no no i know what to do i want find

00:29:49.580 a story and tell me the story and then what we'll do is we'll find we'll put we'll find the funny

00:29:56.240 and we'll expand the funny in those beats it'll be a five minute story no big deal just get up on

00:30:00.300 stage okay so that sounds good yeah yeah i'll take you up on that yeah let's do it so are you on tour

00:30:05.600 now yeah i just got back from miami zany's is fun i'm going to zany's yeah i'm um zany's is great

00:30:13.080 I'll do that

00:30:13.740 and then

00:30:14.260 and then where am I

00:30:15.540 I'm on a bunch of places

00:30:16.720 but I'll be all over

00:30:18.100 I'll be all over the map

00:30:19.020 so

00:30:19.640 you know

00:30:20.580 let me know

00:30:21.080 I'll be in

00:30:21.780 Minnesota

00:30:22.640 I'll be in Vancouver

00:30:23.580 I'll be in

00:30:24.080 no I'll be in

00:30:24.580 I was just in Vancouver

00:30:26.000 but I'll be in Edmonton

00:30:27.300 at the comic strip

00:30:28.200 oh

00:30:28.860 that's gonna be fun

00:30:29.760 yeah

00:30:30.580 I don't know where that went

00:30:31.640 I'm doing a bunch of stuff

00:30:32.680 in Canada

00:30:33.100 that's funny

00:30:34.300 over the summer I hope

00:30:35.460 no probably fall

00:30:37.540 okay

00:30:38.240 that's still not so bad

00:30:39.220 yeah

00:30:39.540 yeah

00:30:39.940 have you ever been to Edmonton

00:30:40.940 when it's negative 40

00:30:41.740 oh yeah

00:30:42.340 I have it's an experience it's polar bear weather yeah for real yeah like if you know you work on

00:30:49.800 the it's funny Edmonton's interesting too because they come to laugh but it is where you make a lot

00:30:56.600 of money in the oil fields and then you come back and drink and do all the cocaine it was the only 1.00

00:31:02.920 I got invited to a party with these giant Serbian dudes who ended up being a gang and ended up doing 0.93

00:31:10.080 hard time which i didn't know but i found out yeah it was the only place i went i went they 0.87

00:31:16.600 invited me to this party i'm not a drug guy and i get there and there's a dude shaving shaving

00:31:22.840 lines off a brick he had a neck this thick shark eyes and he's just and they were calling me eddie

00:31:28.680 from the hangover because that's who i was and they're calling me eddie and and i've never seen

00:31:33.640 that before i've never seen people shaving and then there were people in a hot tub there was a

00:31:38.460 pit bull that they couldn't let out it was trying to get at everybody through this this like door

00:31:42.920 with a it was like a metal mesh door it was so it was so creepy I was like I gotta and then I got

00:31:48.820 in my rental car and I got lost in the outskirts of Edmonton but I'll never forget that and I

00:31:54.100 there was a girl there she was like this she had like it's so random she had been at the show with

00:32:01.440 those guys and she was kind of getting tossed around these giant guys and she was like in this 0.97

00:32:05.680 dress and she had bruises on her thighs from what was clearly a pole or something and lack 1.00

00:32:12.420 of nutrition i don't know what was going on i remember and she was doing blow and trying to

00:32:16.760 talk to me but she couldn't get her words out and anyway long story short i got the hell out of

00:32:21.360 there because nothing good happens in that situation nothing good right i'm all for a party

00:32:25.840 but this was this was i had shark eye shaving blow off a brick the main dude was was i'm no no

00:32:32.440 oh then they had molly and they were wrapping molly in in um in plastic like the plastic bags

00:32:40.280 that digest so that you can you can take the molly in the black and it was anyway it was they

00:32:46.700 were clearly big time drug dealers and then there were these all these other shady characters around

00:32:51.460 and me and me and i'm being tossed around like a prop they're like the guy from the hangover 0.98

00:32:56.380 it was right after i was like i gotta get that fuck out of here and uh and then i found a dog 0.86

00:33:03.460 like a collie i was trying to find the owner it was a disaster anyway sorry i don't know where 0.98

00:33:09.480 wow and i ran into that girl that's what i was gonna say i was running that girl like

00:33:13.080 i was doing a gig in three years later i ran the girl she goes do you remember me i was like i don't

00:33:17.960 think so oh and i go oh yeah how are those guys they're all in jail she goes they got busted in

00:33:25.100 this huge sting by the you know by the canadian that's wild yeah they're all doing like 15 years

00:33:31.980 oh my gosh my dad told me that uh people who live oh well if you go up like further in alberta

00:33:38.700 there's nothing to do so there's drugs everywhere because they're guys were like really cold

00:33:43.180 you can't even walk outside for six months of the year and there's nothing to do yeah so just

00:33:48.500 get high yeah that's why they moved they lived in fairview which is this tiny town that's like

00:33:54.140 hours and hours north of edmonton from there originally yeah they're from fairview oh my god

00:33:59.440 yeah there's nothing to do my parents are both like we escaped and we made it no sun yeah which

00:34:04.660 is really bad for you yeah although there's sun there's no sun and then there's lots of sun

00:34:09.820 there is oh yeah in the summer it almost doesn't set it's crazy it's so far north yeah so they put

00:34:15.160 aluminum foil on the windows in the summer so you can sleep it's miserable yeah i went there

00:34:20.420 i've been there twice once when it was negative 40 and i went outside and like couldn't breathe

00:34:24.700 and i was like oh this is when this is what negative 40 is like and then the summer when

00:34:29.060 there were tent caterpillars and there was a tent caterpillar like storm and so the roads were

00:34:35.240 slippery with caterpillars what it was disgusting well that's by the way and there are mosquitoes

00:34:39.200 like rogan went big yeah he went bear hunting yeah he came back with like yeah i mean he had

00:34:45.240 like it looked like somebody had shot him with a paint gun like he just had the the mosquito 0.96

00:34:50.140 had done something to his fucking skin and it was i was like bro i'm not doing that they're big oh 0.98

00:34:56.800 and and and the brush it's so like thick and you've gotta you'll never see the bear unless 0.99

00:35:01.600 you bait him in and then it's like oh no keep that yeah we we were watching uh my husband and

00:35:07.700 i were watching i think this show is called survivor or something and they're like oh we

00:35:11.140 put people in the middle of nowhere where like no man has survived and it was like a hundred

00:35:16.520 kilometers north of where I used to spend summers yeah I was like they've got eight types of biting

00:35:21.680 bugs it was horrible yeah like do you want to go back to northern Saskatchewan for the summer

00:35:26.980 no that's like the guy I had a guy on my podcast who traversed the south pole

00:35:32.080 um the arctic or whatever and uh he was pulling a sled and they had this shotgun for polar bears

00:35:41.140 and uh but he was like maybe we should because as you're getting closer you have to shed weight

00:35:45.980 he's like i don't know if we can carry this we may not carry this and plus we're so far north

00:35:50.940 we won't see any polar bears and he goes well maybe we'll just keep it in case and he turns

00:35:55.860 and behind him a giant polar bear had been stalking him and his partner and they were so

00:36:03.740 tired and like seven he just kind of turns around just to see how far they came and he goes oh my

00:36:07.840 god there was a polar bear like you know literally 50 feet behind him just kind of following him

00:36:13.940 and he was like thank god we've got the gun and they shot the gun in the air and scared it away

00:36:19.320 but why would you do that he chose to do that it wasn't like if you don't do this something

00:36:24.660 terrible is going to happen to your family because you because some people are into the art of

00:36:29.300 suffering that's why and i i can't imagine that like you know it's like when you hunt mountain

00:36:35.800 goats you're you're way up on the mountain and you're just freezing and waiting for some goat

00:36:41.680 that can see you a mile away so there's no way you're going to get it anyway and oh by the way 1.00

00:36:46.580 when you do shoot it it falls into a crevasse and you can't get it anyway fuck off i'd rather 0.99

00:36:52.640 go to the dentist with no novocaine the only thing you get at the end of that is goat meat too it's 1.00

00:36:58.200 not even that good like you won you're some goat that's so funny that's so true i never even thought 0.95

00:37:04.260 about you have goat meat yeah somebody told me doll doll sheep or whatever it's called you know 0.65

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00:38:27.920 and description i hope you're enjoying this episode you know what's really good meat uh

00:38:32.500 steve ranella i was hunting with him he made me beaver really i swear to god he made a beaver stew

00:38:39.420 i'm gonna i'm going on record as saying it's the best most tender meat i've ever had i know it

00:38:43.900 sounds crazy i love elk i love deer beaver does it taste like chicken probably tastes like squirrel

00:38:49.300 have you had a squirrel it tastes like beef yeah wow yeah the native americans lived on beaver

00:38:54.860 They ate a lot of beaver.

00:38:55.960 And so it wolves.

00:38:57.800 Huh, okay.

00:38:58.700 Weird.

00:38:59.260 Well.

00:38:59.700 Random.

00:39:00.660 Probably won't try that.

00:39:02.920 Maybe.

00:39:03.640 We'll see.

00:39:04.460 Who knows what happens in the future?

00:39:06.460 Maybe beaver's on my list.

00:39:07.700 Who knows?

00:39:08.660 Who knows?

00:39:09.360 Yeah.

00:39:09.940 Okay, so you're living in L.A., right?

00:39:11.760 Yeah.

00:39:12.640 What's that like?

00:39:13.540 Has it gotten less crazy than it was, like, peak COVID?

00:39:17.580 Do you think it's improving?

00:39:18.580 Yes, it has.

00:39:19.480 Okay, that's good.

00:39:19.760 Well, so I was living in Venice during COVID, and it was a homeless encampment.

00:39:24.000 you know, it was, it was an absolute disaster. And I mean, you watch how quickly a society

00:39:29.600 breaks apart as soon as, you know, anything like that happens, because all the services for the

00:39:36.900 drug addicts and the mentally ill just dried up and they all got on the street and they all got

00:39:43.360 together and they all started to kind of feed their own addictions and, and the amount of waste 0.52

00:39:48.780 and, and garbage, it was so outrageous that I sold my house. I got the hell out of there.

00:39:54.000 and I moved because I loved Venice, but it was so out of control. And, you know, this idea

00:40:01.580 behind sort of compassion and justice reform and all that stuff, it's not that we,

00:40:08.660 it's not that the justice system is perfect, and it's not that you don't have compassion when it

00:40:12.560 comes to public policy. And they know things I don't know, but whatever was going on didn't

00:40:18.420 really seem to work you know yeah it's like portland i went to portland and it was the same

00:40:24.300 thing and it was just like you have these drug addicts you have open air drug markets and you

00:40:31.000 know i i don't know i don't know i don't know how to even make sense of that that that problem

00:40:36.600 you know other than to say you're not allowed to do this here you're not allowed to have an

00:40:42.500 encampment on the sidewalk. You're not allowed to camp outside. We will create services for you

00:40:49.000 where you have to come in and you have to not do drugs if we can figure out the way to get you

00:40:55.160 treatment. And if we can't, then we have to do, we have to confine you somehow. I'm not going to

00:40:59.580 let you walk the streets and rob people. It ain't happening. And that was, we had some crazy ideas

00:41:07.220 in 2020 some crazy ideas that's for sure yeah and it gives you an example of why how dangerous bad

00:41:14.560 ideas are and um the one the one thing that i'm i'm sort of um optimistic about is that you have

00:41:24.140 these schools with these students and they're learning things and when you hear them talk they

00:41:28.820 don't reflect the rest of the world you kind of hear them talk about these things like i have

00:41:33.240 generational trauma um from white men and because i have some indigenous in me you know all these

00:41:39.220 things you hear are they they'll talk about how gender is a spectrum and all this stuff and all

00:41:43.820 of us are scratching our heads because most of us are trying to make a living and construct a life

00:41:47.560 and you have these kids who are saying things like i'm the if you look at the majors that these kids

00:41:53.400 are that they're majoring in they're not even yeah it makes sense oh it's such a scam they're

00:41:57.840 made out of like thin air and you go well good luck with that because the world's moving at

00:42:02.940 the way the world is moving and there's no place for you here and i think what's going to happen

00:42:07.880 and what is happening is um the kids are going to realize that they've been sold a lie and they get

00:42:14.500 out from behind those very expensive walls and the world doesn't have any use for them and that

00:42:19.680 doesn't care about them and there are only so many authority figures you can go to after a while

00:42:24.860 before you're now working at starbucks with your very expensive degree and and being very much in

00:42:31.400 debt. It's a little bit like what happened to the revolutionaries of the 60s. The revolutionaries

00:42:36.260 of the 60s ended up being, for the most part, broke, jobless, or full of regrets because

00:42:45.680 they couldn't apply their philosophy or their ideology at the level of detail. They just got

00:42:52.100 swallowed up by the American way. And the American way is, I got to get to work and I got bills,

00:42:58.980 bro. I don't have time to talk to you about whether or not I dead named John or whatever

00:43:04.840 that person's name is. It doesn't have any relevance to my life. What you are is a mischievous

00:43:10.780 interruption. And I don't have time for mischievous interruptions. Like I swear to God, every time I

00:43:17.980 see these, these, these kids talking about how they're trans mask slash two spirit and stuff

00:43:23.940 like that i'm like okay americans could we could use a light famine a light famine just just because

00:43:31.360 for for the middle of the country just for their diabetes but for the coast for new york and la

00:43:36.600 and those other cities for perspective you know yeah it's like a little bit of actual trauma yeah

00:43:41.760 you know it's like it's like i was gonna write this joke about that which is like you're not

00:43:45.580 so worried like he dead named john it's like that's cool that's really we'll get to that in

00:43:49.580 second but they're handing out potatoes in district nine so i gotta go eat you know good

00:43:55.500 luck bro you know that's you'd forget about all that stuff right quick so um yeah it's just a

00:44:01.360 total lack of perspective yeah maybe so i used to i used to think that but then if you think about

00:44:06.140 what happened in the ussr weren't they in that position and they were still in a lot of different

00:44:10.840 it's very different actually so the the because the communist revolution came about when you really

00:44:16.560 were dealing with an aristocracy in the czar and and and it was a land of serfs but what about like

00:44:23.000 70s the the the 1970s yeah 1970s 1980s where in the USSR yeah yeah and Soviet Union yeah well I 0.78

00:44:32.420 think what happened frankly in in the 1970s and 1980s was that Russians were just tired of being

00:44:38.500 hungry I went there in 1985 oh really yeah and I was there in in 1985 I was 18 years old or 17

00:44:44.800 team. Why? My dad just took us. Wow. And I, and what was cool is I was there with a Russian

00:44:50.500 speaker, a kid who was an American and Russian. He spoke the language. So I hung out with all the

00:44:54.560 kids in Gorky Park. I hung out with Russian kids my age. And I really got a sense. I got to know

00:45:00.060 them. I even, I even hooked up with a girl named Svetlana. It was awesome in the Cosmos Hotel. It

00:45:05.940 was the best. She was gorgeous. And we had this love affair for like three days. God, I think back

00:45:11.900 to that it was incredible it was it was just like and Christina liked me too it was a weird time but

00:45:18.260 anyway yeah but but but um but I it was I remember I remember nobody would smile there were no

00:45:27.100 advertisements but I think what happened in the Soviet Union was it it became very apparent very

00:45:32.220 early on that this doesn't work that that we're hungry I want bread you know the revolutions start

00:45:38.580 with your stomach I mean when your kids have no future you can kind of deal with that you can deal

00:45:43.820 with the fact that you don't have any money it's when you get really hungry that after a while

00:45:49.320 you're like I don't this this is even the guy even the cop enforcing the law is hungry even he knows

00:45:56.900 what I'm talking about even the military knows what I'm talking about because nobody has any

00:46:01.520 nutrition you know that's that's probably why the iron curtain came down because it was a lie

00:46:06.900 It doesn't work. And I think that's what we're seeing now. I think what we're seeing is probably

00:46:13.960 something like the minute somebody starts stating their pronouns, we all go, that's great. I'm not

00:46:22.860 going to hire you though, because you sound sensitive. It's not that I have a problem with

00:46:27.060 it. It's just that you sound sensitive and humorless and sexless. And you're going to get

00:46:33.360 me in trouble for the way I speak even when I'm being nice so I don't like it you know so all I

00:46:41.640 see is like you know even when I'm being nice yeah yeah like I see entitled humorless people

00:46:46.840 and life is too hard not to be funny but they tried to come after us as comics you know has

00:46:53.080 that so has that reversed I feel like a couple years ago it was pretty bad it was like oh they're

00:46:57.940 taking out the comics yeah and then recently it's it's been reversing right well that tom brady

00:47:04.360 roast yes was uh probably a good harbinger of you know it was like just a bunch of dudes and

00:47:12.940 nikki glazer of course but a lot of guys just using being really off color yeah and uh for

00:47:19.720 hollywood god bless netflix for allowing that to go forward yeah it was great do you know why there

00:47:25.020 wasn't a roast in a while were people just not agreeing to be roasted i don't know there was a

00:47:29.260 gap probably i don't know it's it's it's it's it's a hard thing to pull off netflix was like

00:47:35.400 let's try something live yeah you know wow so that's they'll do another one you know they'll

00:47:42.300 do another one tom brady probably is very uh regretful i've seen some videos yeah because

00:47:50.180 that was brave yeah but then when they come after your family there's also so much family stuff to

00:47:55.180 go after too like that should have been what he was thinking they would go after because that's

00:47:59.320 what's in the news but he doesn't know that that's what happens when you're you're newly famous and

00:48:04.180 you're being used as a prop in hollywood it's great the attention's fantastic but be careful

00:48:09.760 that's a false god too and that'll tear you right down it'll tear you right down so you know it's

00:48:16.620 like jay lano said that one time he said any actor who's really famous has about six years

00:48:21.340 before the last one in the chair you're the first guy in the chair for six years and then you know

00:48:26.200 for whatever reason your movie goes out of style and you know you're you're you're considered you're 1.00

00:48:31.880 we'll get to you that's how it is oof yeah yikes women deal with that as soon as you stop being

00:48:40.940 delicious you know it it's really easy to kind of like no longer work just happens terrifying it

00:48:48.740 just happens like it's like what my career is over nobody tells you they love you but no that's very

00:48:55.300 true yeah especially Hollywood I think you see some female actors like there's some that lasted

00:49:00.120 when Meryl Streep for instance yeah she lasted um who was in she's really good she was in James

00:49:05.980 bond she played m judy was that judy dench oh yeah she was great too she's like great actresses 0.62

00:49:12.680 though those women were never uh sex symbols though they were never they were always sort of 1.00

00:49:18.140 uh you know they were just character actors and they were you know they were maggie smith and all

00:49:24.060 of them they were just great actresses who had always had a they looked a little bit off they

00:49:29.100 looked not off but they they were playing your sister they were playing not the ingenue you know

00:49:35.300 And they were just so good at being actresses.

00:49:42.160 They were so good at bringing these characters to life.

00:49:44.340 So they were able to go from young to the mom, to the older sister, to the grandmother, to the matriarch, and things like that.

00:49:52.260 But that's far and few between.

00:49:53.900 Helen Mirren's another one. 0.93

00:49:55.020 She was gorgeous when she was younger. 1.00

00:49:56.540 Yeah, yeah, she was.

00:49:57.400 Yeah.

00:49:57.840 She was in Caligula and kind of naked. 0.93

00:50:01.780 What a body. 0.91

00:50:02.840 I mean, she was just gorgeous. 1.00

00:50:03.840 and and but she was still able to even within that she was still able to be the actress in it

00:50:09.640 she was that good so that's a very rare quality you've got to be something special to be that

00:50:15.480 good an actor or you know timothy chalamet i was watching him in dune oh yeah that kid is the real

00:50:21.180 deal it's very hard to be that good like and nobody knows how he does that it looks what he

00:50:27.300 looks he looks like he's what he's doing is easy just being able to brood like that just being able

00:50:33.020 to convey emotion on that subtle a way especially with that face and that frame that that's a really

00:50:40.300 rare and strange quality it's it's just it's called star power and i don't know you can't

00:50:46.960 bottle it but it's it's real jake gyllenhaal has it too oh jake gyllenhaal is great yeah we don't

00:50:51.880 even know why but we believe everything they do like i believe him when when timothy chalamet and

00:50:57.160 And Dune puts his hand into this box and he's going to feel terrible pain.

00:51:02.600 And you can see on his face, it's like, dude, you know, like, there's no pain there.

00:51:06.080 And he just, you're just like, God, you're going through the pain of the ages.

00:51:09.920 Like, that's, that's a wild skill set.

00:51:13.060 It's a, it's, it's like, you ever read a great novel?

00:51:15.780 Yeah.

00:51:16.220 And the author, like how, like the author is able to, he writes seven characters that are one mile deep.

00:51:24.940 and you're like how do you know human beings that well how do you know that you know some people can

00:51:31.260 just do it you know I'm not that deep Michaela what what what book would you recommend people

00:51:38.480 read we're going to talk about books one book that the university protesters should be reading

00:51:44.420 that's a really good question that's a that's a great question um

00:51:50.180 you know i i've read probably everything you know i've read dostoevsky i've read the brothers

00:51:57.260 karamazov and and crime and punishment and i wouldn't those would not be my recommendations

00:52:01.900 they're too dense they don't take too long you know they'll read the bible too long i mean i've

00:52:08.540 read it twice but it takes a long time man and then you have to have somebody to carry you through

00:52:13.600 what the author is talking about. So I think maybe the thing that's complicated about

00:52:28.540 talking to the protesters is that many of them are young and idealistic, and there's nothing

00:52:34.440 wrong with that. And maybe they have a bigger heart. Maybe they're more tender, because what

00:52:39.020 they are seeing is that they do know that there is profound suffering on the Palestinian side,

00:52:43.140 And they're talking about the kids and the civilians that have nothing to do with Hamas and have always tried to get away from Hamas because they're a criminal organization.

00:52:50.860 And so your heart is in the right place to be outraged by something like that, right? 0.54

00:52:57.960 And then you have to ask, is there a book maybe that could put that into perspective that could kind of say, you know, I'm going to say something that is crazy to say.

00:53:11.400 but i i think philosophy falls short because you're you're going to find yourself in a circle

00:53:20.240 you're going to find it's almost a snake eating its own tail because every time you read a

00:53:24.760 philosophical treatise you could have a semicolon after that and then it could say but how can we

00:53:31.100 be sure of that or or not or you know here's kant now see nietzsche or see this rebuttal right

00:53:41.040 yeah and i think that you could do that for at infinite you would just that would be an infinite

00:53:45.780 loop right and you'd never get closer to the truth but maybe something like something like

00:53:54.660 either uh the vedanta treatise why why why the vedanta is sort of the end of the upanishads

00:54:01.640 it's the it's the it's himalayan sage the it's sort of the where where buddhism the notion of

00:54:07.820 Okay. Okay. And that would be this, that would be something like, um, you're right to be outraged

00:54:14.280 and, and the world is a heartbreak. It's also got beauty, but the world will always be

00:54:20.460 a series of opposites. Okay. I'll quote Alan Watts. If you walked into a room and tried to

00:54:27.520 turn everything top side up and make everything great, you would in turning everything top side

00:54:36.100 up, the other side is always upside down. And no, and he said something that I have not stopped

00:54:43.000 thinking about in one of his lectures, Alan Watts said, any reasonable person realizes that you

00:54:51.540 cannot improve yourself, and you cannot improve the world. It's pretty radical idea right now.

00:54:57.900 Now, hold on before we go, because I can see your dad going, wait a minute. And that's not I me too.

00:55:03.140 But the idea would be something like this. You can always encourage the angels of your better nature, right? But when you try to make the world a better place with your protest or whatever it might be, with sort of imposing your idea, you are going to get in one way or another a ripple effect.

00:55:32.040 there will be a blowback. There will be some reaction. There will be something that you will

00:55:37.420 create that will be a pushback to that. And that pushback will be something that might cause the

00:55:45.420 pendulum to swing even further over in the direction you don't want it to do. Now, that

00:55:50.740 doesn't mean you don't keep trying, but you have to understand that every time you try to do

00:55:55.520 something, this is a better way of looking at it. This is where Zen comes in. This is where the

00:56:01.100 the problem of enlightenment comes in the reason you can't improve yourself truly truly improve

00:56:08.740 yourself is because the part of you that wants to improve itself is the part that needs improving

00:56:15.980 it's a weird concept but you you you you you are going to you are going to be trying to improve

00:56:23.300 yourself to what end what does that mean you're trying to improve yourself so that you can be

00:56:29.160 better than everybody so that you can be the enlightened sage and have people sit at your feet

00:56:34.300 it's very hard to not get out of that loop it's why zen masters will give you cones christ spoke

00:56:42.180 in cones and parables in a way but he spoke in parables but the idea behind a cone you know

00:56:47.880 contemplate the sound of one hand clapping is that it's supposed to get you out of your logical

00:56:53.220 frame of mind right it's supposed yeah yeah yeah yeah it's supposed to shatter your notion of of

00:56:59.400 rationality and logic it's supposed to get you outside of your own mind so that ultimately you

00:57:05.260 might be able to cultivate what they call sakshi which is the witness to your body the witness to

00:57:12.340 your emotions and the witness to your mind which is actually very different so it's not it's not

00:57:16.880 it's not a western concept socrates would say you are you are your mind you know you want to go to

00:57:22.300 isle of the blessed and just be a mind that contemplates all day the beautiful things but

00:57:27.060 in fact the sages of the himalayas you know the eastern sages of you know where the vedanta comes

00:57:33.280 from the hindu sages would say actually you can step outside of that and you can even witness

00:57:37.260 your own mind yeah kind of fascinating right yeah that is fascinating i i didn't answer your question

00:57:42.520 as far as a book is concerned oh i don't know if there's a like one book that can help the

00:57:46.120 protesters anyway they needed a entirely different education yeah yeah or maybe they need to

00:57:51.980 maybe they need to understand and read the federalist papers and read and read and understand

00:57:59.080 how james madison alexander hamilton john jay etc solve the political problem that constitution is

00:58:05.600 the con you know why the constitution is so amazing do you know why the it's not the piece

00:58:09.560 of paper and and it was james madison's idea that he he invented he he was obsessed with the notion

00:58:14.980 of faction how do you stop a government from breaking into factions and then having a really

00:58:19.980 charismatic dangerous faction take over all the other factions right and we're back to the same

00:58:24.240 old monarchy and problem and he solved that problem and so the reason that the united states

00:58:29.100 this republic works and the reason that the constitution works is not because of that piece

00:58:35.180 of paper it's because the founding fathers probably james madison primarily who was five

00:58:42.040 feet tall and 100 pounds but an intellectual giant he was able to figure out a way to make

00:58:49.300 sure that power could never concentrate in one specific place. That is checks and balances.

00:58:57.160 It was impossible to get, you know, the minute you have a system of government where power 0.75

00:59:02.240 gravitates to one person, God forbid, or one group of people, you've got Russia. You've got 0.77

00:59:09.800 every other system of government. You don't want a theocracy. You want a government that grinds

00:59:15.760 slowly i'm suing you that's being challenged in the courts the executive is vetoing it the

00:59:22.720 congress is screaming at each other and insulting each other with ad hominem insults yes yes oh

00:59:29.060 they don't get along exactly i don't want our government when i see marjorie taylor green

00:59:34.560 gunking up the works and aoc screaming and they're insulting each other i'm like democracy is good

00:59:40.540 I love this. Keep it slow. I want my federal government, that massive behemoth to grind

00:59:48.360 at a glacial pace. You know why? Because they stay out of my business. They stay out of the

00:59:53.640 individual's business. That was by design. The founding fathers would smile at that.

00:59:59.500 It's when you see government actually getting along really well and pushing something forward

01:00:04.680 and coming up with an idea of a world government or a world consensus, that's when we're in

01:00:09.400 trouble be careful wow that's great we need a course on that have you have you heard we're

01:00:15.120 launching peterson academy you heard of this yes and i and i will be a a student ah i'm gonna be

01:00:21.340 a student we made the courses so that somebody with add can focus i think your father i think

01:00:27.320 your father is a is a prophet in in i've said this many times i think he's a prophet in the

01:00:33.760 in the biblical sense of the word i really i really feel that way i i think he is um i i think

01:00:40.160 he is a moral beacon and and i don't think that his the fact that he resonates so strongly with

01:00:48.720 so many of us is it is an accident i think he's beautiful you know i think he's he's uh he's

01:00:55.780 something else man it's well thank you courage and i love the way he speaks about you you know

01:01:01.840 I've read his books and, and, uh, you're a huge part of his, uh, his life, man.

01:01:07.340 I was a pretty biblically dramatic dying child for a long time.

01:01:11.160 Yeah.

01:01:11.720 Yeah.

01:01:12.260 Yeah.

01:01:12.780 Luckily I got out of that.

01:01:14.000 Yeah, you did.

01:01:14.600 You look incredible.

01:01:15.620 Thank you.

01:01:16.160 You really do.

01:01:17.060 And, uh, it's, it's really cool to see too.

01:01:20.040 You know, it's, it's good to see you doing so well.

01:01:22.800 Cause I've, I've been keeping tabs on you, you know, sort of like vicariously.

01:01:27.800 Oh, it's been bad.

01:01:28.540 I was, I was talking to like my husband the other day and I was like, I'm really fortunate.

01:01:32.920 I was in the car and I was just thinking, I was like, I'm really like lucky because

01:01:37.580 there were so many times when my life was like headed downhill at such a speed that

01:01:43.800 the fact that it didn't just end, like, you know, a whole bunch of, it was like crazy,

01:01:47.720 crazy situations that were all headed towards complete chaos and destruction.

01:01:51.520 And I was like, and now I'm here.

01:01:53.100 It's like, I'm really lucky.

01:01:54.260 Isn't that amazing?

01:01:54.940 Yeah.

01:01:55.200 It's amazing.

01:01:56.040 because yeah you went through physical pain like people don't realize how physically uncomfortable

01:02:01.940 you oh yeah my gosh with with uh and growing up with no money probably or not yeah no I mean like

01:02:08.220 I said I worked I started working in grade five it was delivering newspapers in grade five I had

01:02:12.260 my first garage sale in grade one so I like I've always been I've been working forever with like

01:02:16.940 different jobs and things but like not enough you know like minimum wage jobs while you're in school

01:02:21.300 so you don't have much money what a gift yeah oh yeah it's also like for people who don't have

01:02:27.980 those like terrible jobs you're like on your feet waiting tables at a restaurant that doesn't work

01:02:33.980 very well and the food's not very good and everyone's mad at you and yeah the those are

01:02:38.220 like you're burning yourself with coffee all the time because you're hungover those are like my 0.53

01:02:42.320 jobs damn and or like working at a skating rink or something like that i feel like it makes money 0.91

01:02:49.260 more valuable too when you start making it because you're like this was hard for a long time well i 0.98

01:02:54.780 was eating there's an amazing restaurant here in arizona called lux central have you ever eaten

01:03:00.380 there it's it's a coffee place it's a breakfast place but it's also dinner it's they it's it's

01:03:05.680 awesome go there if you ever want great coffee and just great well you don't do you drink coffee

01:03:10.300 does it have steak they have steak oh there you go strip steak and and uh and i had a strip steak

01:03:16.000 this morning and, and I was eating that strip steak and it was so good. Cause everything they

01:03:20.320 make is so good. And drinking this incredible espresso that they roast right there. And I was

01:03:25.760 like, like, I, I take those moments sometimes and I feel like the luckiest person in the world,

01:03:31.460 or I look at my kid who's two, you know, and I'm just like, it takes me out of myself.

01:03:37.600 And I'm like, no matter what I, I like, I love that, that practicing of gratefulness,

01:03:42.980 you know do you you do that a lot right oh I do that all the time yeah like like all the time

01:03:49.760 are you get do you feel like you get better at it yeah better at it yeah definitely how do you

01:03:55.840 how do you start your morning do you do that in the morning or what do you do well I pray

01:03:59.940 oh you do I pray and so I generally I like whatever I mean I do this with my daughter too

01:04:04.860 like what are you grateful for we do that like every night yeah and so I think when I first

01:04:09.520 started doing that especially when things were really my dad was really sick things like things

01:04:15.120 were really bad it was harder but now like the longer I've done it I've probably there's well

01:04:22.900 there is more just there's more to be grateful for now that's that's obvious but I've also gone

01:04:29.280 through a couple of like rough experiences while I've been doing this and I have faith that that

01:04:34.240 will shape me in a way that makes the experience worth it so now even if I'm going through something

01:04:39.500 bad I'm grateful for that which I didn't think I would get to that because I was sick and angry

01:04:44.820 and like I wasn't I never got resentful my dad taught me not to be resentful for being sick

01:04:48.580 but I was mad at like the universe like why me like this is ridiculous yes I was angry for a

01:04:55.640 long time and I've completely gotten rid of that that's a huge accomplishment that's a huge

01:05:02.020 accomplishment that's like um that sounds like something close to peace of mind in a way I mean

01:05:07.780 I don't have anything like that, but I certainly, I certainly try to practice. I pray too. And I

01:05:12.300 never thought I would. Yeah. And that's, I'm new to that. Do you do what you're grateful for

01:05:16.840 or what you want? Yes. I say, thank you. I don't ask for anything. I try not to ask for anything.

01:05:22.280 I just, I just, I just, what I try to do is I try to say that, um, everything I'm going to do

01:05:28.700 is so, so I do a couple of things now, like when it comes to stand up, you know, my whole life is

01:05:34.860 trying to solve creative problems so i work with brands i have a team of really great comics like

01:05:40.840 a think tank comedy think tank and i work with brands and i come up with funny ways to sell

01:05:45.680 their oh that's fun okay we need that yeah yeah well we'll talk yeah yeah because your after

01:05:52.280 party thing is killer i want to do commercial we should do commercials for that okay it's so 0.94

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01:06:02.480 i was talking about i think she filmed me doing it because i was like this shit works this this 0.98

01:06:07.460 after party stuff if i drink two glasses of wine now i'm i'm blind the next day my head hurts so 0.90

01:06:13.740 badly i'm so i can't even drink i'm like i can't do it if i drink whiskey you can kill me so i i

01:06:20.820 was with my friends and i drank all the wine and and then we broke into tequila and then whiskey 0.97

01:06:26.240 because i'm an asshole and i was like well i'm gonna be a dead man i might not make it till 0.94

01:06:31.960 and my kid's going to be waking me up it's going to be a disaster and i saw those after party things 0.99

01:06:38.100 and i was like i'm gonna pop two of these i swear to god i swear i forgot i drank i didn't have

01:06:46.560 anything so whatever it's doing i think it does it does something in your stomach to the it breaks

01:06:51.060 down breaks down acetaldehyde like helps you break it down so like ethanol when you're drinking

01:06:55.980 gets converted into acetaldehyde when it's metabolized okay and that's what just poisons

01:07:00.760 you the next day. And you have to slowly detox from acetaldehyde and it just breaks down acetaldehyde

01:07:06.300 faster. It's unbelievable. Yeah, I know. It's unbelievable. It's, it is, it absolutely works

01:07:12.740 100%. I was going to do a free ad for you. I was like, I want to do this free ad on, but I'm not a

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01:07:29.280 after party which is a great name for it thank you well how did you come up with it because you

01:07:33.240 like to drink okay i was 20 i drank way too much in university so i was on i was really sick i was

01:07:40.060 on a whole bunch of medication and as soon as i drank i was like i'm alive yes like i just didn't

01:07:44.640 feel alive it was bad and i drank way too much and the hangovers were like you know in bed until 10

01:07:51.140 p.m dead and i was like i was just a mess and so i was in bed one day i was 20 i was in bed one day

01:07:56.820 And I was like, it's 20, I think it was 2012 or something, 2011.

01:08:01.000 And I was like, there's got to be a hangover cure.

01:08:03.520 Like what?

01:08:04.220 It's 2011.

01:08:05.220 We've been drinking forever.

01:08:06.440 Like where's the hangover cure?

01:08:07.820 And I started researching and I found this like herb compound, well, herb that's used

01:08:14.140 in Japan and has been used in like Asia forever.

01:08:18.160 Guys, that's herb is Canadian for herb.

01:08:21.420 What?

01:08:21.680 You say herb?

01:08:22.860 Oh, there's an H.

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01:08:25.460 Oh my gosh.

01:08:26.220 sorry about that bad as my husband uh so i found these studies on rats and they did they were they

01:08:32.580 convinced me when i was 20 there's like one study where they pump rats full of alcohol they put them

01:08:38.100 in water and see which ones tread water the longest wow or make them go through a maze hung

01:08:43.580 over to see which ones like shiver in the corner and which ones go to the end of the maze there

01:08:47.600 were a bunch of these studies and if you use this dihydromyricetin with alcohol rats would perform

01:08:52.900 as normal. And I was like, this is amazing. So then I was buying powder from China. There's

01:08:58.200 like dihydramine rest person from China and figured out eventually that the dose you need

01:09:02.560 is way higher than like what are in some supplements now. Um, it's perfectly safe,

01:09:09.420 like perfectly safe. They're using it in research on Alzheimer's. Uh, I don't, I wouldn't say that

01:09:14.600 it has any effect there. I, I highly doubt it, but like they're researching it. It works.

01:09:19.260 it doesn't just work it's it works completely is what i'm saying that's what i'm saying it's like

01:09:25.420 oh no it'll help it doesn't help for me it worked completely like it was astonishing yeah and my

01:09:31.680 wife seconds that because she she tied one on because she's been breastfeeding with a baby 0.99

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01:09:42.080 like i can't believe this yeah yeah i know it should be in every corner store like if you drink 0.99

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01:10:03.980 but nobody believes it and also you were talking earlier about people like shilling out things on

01:10:08.500 the internet being like this is how you become a millionaire buy this supplement yeah and i like

01:10:13.040 watch my ads and i'm like i wouldn't believe it i wouldn't believe it well i don't sell anything

01:10:18.000 and I, you know, obviously I'm not taking any money for after party, but I, I'm happy to be

01:10:23.900 your, your, your spokesman on that. Cause that's that I'm telling you, it works. It's just

01:10:28.760 incredible. That's so funny. You know, I have a friend, my dad has a friend, Greg Hurwitz that I

01:10:33.440 gave him. He was the only person who believed me when I was 20. I was going to all my 20 year old

01:10:37.140 friends being like, I found a cure. I found a cure. And they're just like, Hey, Michaela.

01:10:40.860 So this was all your research. You just basically went, you were like, you,

01:10:44.220 yeah like 12 years ago a long time ago uh and then none of my friends believe me except for

01:10:50.280 one of my dad's friends who really likes vodka he's written like uh orphan hacks a bunch of

01:10:54.760 best-selling novels and he's been giving it out to all his friends too it's like this is amazing

01:10:59.880 okay but like it's just every so often so anyway yeah no hangover some in in miami too she brought

01:11:06.920 me a bottle and i was like that's where i was talking about it it's really really great yeah

01:11:11.000 i'm gonna drink tonight so i'm taking it and i'm you know i wanted to have dinner with you guys but

01:11:15.400 i have to next time next time we're in la yeah it's funny i've got ads on the website though

01:11:20.100 that are like oh you know i was trying to drink less because the hangovers were so bad but now

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01:11:39.160 Because what you want to do with something like after parties, you want to make sure you, first of all, it works.

01:11:44.300 So you've got to do it like, there's a way to advertise without looking like you're advertising.

01:11:49.520 Like, you don't want to be like, what you're trying to do is solve a problem.

01:11:52.800 People wake up hungover.

01:11:54.320 That's a fact.

01:11:55.480 This stuff works.

01:11:56.800 That's a scientifically measurable fact.

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01:12:04.020 I can tell you.

01:12:05.720 Yeah, perfect.

01:12:06.940 When the cameras aren't rolling.

01:12:08.260 Yeah.

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01:12:20.540 And like he said, it really works.

01:12:24.860 Here it is in all of its glory.

01:12:27.540 So yeah, check it out.

01:12:28.400 Leave me a review so I know what you think.

01:12:31.060 I read them all.

01:12:32.080 I think they're hilarious.

01:12:34.000 Yeah, I hope you're enjoying this episode.

01:12:35.660 So stand up.

01:12:36.700 So we've got a couple of things to do.

01:12:38.400 advertise after party without looking like we're advertising you're gonna do stand-up maybe you'll

01:12:43.000 come to nashville june 14th 15th 16th i don't know what you're doing then but um we could probably

01:12:49.620 all you have to do is tell a story yeah i think i think i could do that part like i can do i mean

01:12:54.740 i've opened my dad's shows and usually i try to get people to laugh to what do you do how do you

01:12:58.620 open the shows it's like eight to ten minutes of talking and i try to make it relevant to whatever

01:13:05.160 he's speaking about it's great so some of it's I was supposed to go to one of his we were emailing

01:13:11.440 and I was supposed to go to one of his talks and he was when he was going through his hellish time

01:13:16.020 I emailed him I don't think I had the right email I don't know oh that or he didn't respond but

01:13:20.240 you're yeah I'm sure your dad but I got your dad so your dad has had has my old agent uh Justin

01:13:26.040 oh I love Justin yeah he was my agent that's that's who I I put I put your mom in touch with

01:13:31.480 Justin because uh my agent called me and goes I want to you know I want to represent him and so

01:13:38.080 I talked to your your mom and then that's how it happened wow yeah interesting well that's cool

01:13:45.580 small world yeah so you talk with him periodically yeah I did but then I've got so many like

01:13:52.080 launching Peterson Academy and god that's so cool doing a podcast in Arizona no it's in Miami we

01:13:57.620 used to live in miami so the studio filming everybody's in miami and the team's in miami

01:14:01.480 but the team's all over the world like we have um somebody who's coding in germany somebody else in

01:14:09.340 europe a bunch of the people have moved here now peterson academy and can you tell me a little bit

01:14:14.260 about what it's going to be it's going to be like a curriculum and stuff yeah there's a curriculum

01:14:18.200 we're launching i think we're going to be launching with 17 or 18 courses from people

01:14:22.440 that are in like Harvard, Oxford, Cambridge,

01:14:25.160 like good, put Stanford, good professors,

01:14:28.260 very interesting courses.

01:14:30.400 I'm so all over this.

01:14:31.980 But the exciting, the part I'm excited about, I think,

01:14:34.060 is we've built a social media platform on it.

01:14:36.580 So you have the course, you can comment underneath.

01:14:38.720 It's kind of like YouTube-esque,

01:14:40.880 except there's a transcript.

01:14:42.000 You can click around the transcript.

01:14:43.260 It'll bring you to that part in the lecture.

01:14:45.400 You can take notes.

01:14:46.640 So there's that part of the app.

01:14:48.280 But then there's a social media part

01:14:49.940 where you can keep track of scores on tests,

01:14:53.260 but you also have a profile and a feed.

01:14:56.300 You can message people and DM people.

01:14:58.560 So it'll be, I'm hoping it'll also turn into

01:15:00.600 at least a community where there are no trolls

01:15:02.740 because it's paid. 0.57

01:15:03.820 No one's going to pay to be a troll. 0.90

01:15:05.220 Like no trolls, maybe higher brow. 0.88

01:15:09.340 Won't be infiltrated by China.

01:15:10.340 I don't think there'll be trolls really

01:15:11.420 because it takes effort.

01:15:13.720 Trolls never put in the effort.

01:15:15.420 Like to actually educate yourself.

01:15:18.760 no i'd like no trolls no bots either yeah so we'll see what it'll turn into i'm convinced

01:15:25.100 that they have i'm convinced that your um your dad gets bots uh that so so my friend took a

01:15:32.840 picture my friend's pretty well known and he took a picture with with your dad and he was like i got

01:15:37.760 a bunch of like people you know negative comments and i went to the profiles and they didn't have

01:15:44.020 many followers they were literally just bots was this on on x this was on instagram yeah but he was

01:15:51.540 like this these aren't even real people they're not even you know so there's just mischief makers

01:15:55.520 who just do stuff like i wouldn't be surprised yeah at all but that's okay like your dad said

01:16:00.760 every time he says something and the social justice warriors come out of his patreon grows 0.78

01:16:04.540 by like 20 grand like all right cool keep paying me bitch that really was happening that's beautiful 0.90

01:16:11.980 hate hate sales i think rogan when he went through his stuff that he got two million 0.99

01:16:16.900 extra subscribers on on spotify that's ridiculous all that controversy people were like sign me up

01:16:24.500 yeah because we know what you're doing so sick of it yeah i mean that's the thing it's it it

01:16:30.780 reputation destruction is really easy and hopefully and the problem with reputation

01:16:35.480 destruction is some hack journalists some activists can write one article about you

01:16:39.820 because remember somebody gets a story you get a statement somebody can tell a story about you

01:16:44.240 or whatever so hack journalist who's an activist writes an article about you and what happens is

01:16:49.460 the corporate money dries up because they get scared so they they all pull back so they they

01:16:55.160 do they can attack your your livelihood they can ruin your career and until corporations start

01:17:03.060 believing in due process and trying to get real evidence um you're always going to have this

01:17:10.460 problem you know you have people monsters like p diddy and he deserves what he gets you know i'm

01:17:15.860 sorry if you have somebody telling the same you know let's just take me too if you have a bunch

01:17:20.160 of women telling the same story come on now you know they're not all making it up yeah they're 1.00

01:17:24.700 they're not they don't know each other so you're a scumbag you know scumbags and i always say too 1.00

01:17:30.440 that those kind of people that get like you know that you've got they have like they might have 1.00

01:17:34.620 like 15 women come out against them they were also scumbags in every other aspect of their life 1.00

01:17:39.460 then you find out that they screwed up everybody in business you're like oh for sure scumbag yeah 0.98

01:17:43.660 it's not just one yeah we learned that we were talking about like how people aren't necessarily 0.89

01:17:47.780 just good i we've we found out from like painful experience that people who lie to about small

01:17:53.900 things about they lie about the big things everything everything there's that great that's

01:17:59.880 that great when Bertolucci was shooting Marlon Brando in Last Tango in Paris. The fucking 0.99

01:18:06.620 Italians are so hilariously dramatic. I could not capture him because he was too big for 1.00

01:18:12.100 the camera. Sometimes you have to sit back because it's too much. So he was bigger than

01:18:18.180 life and even the lens of the camera, no matter what I did, I could never capture his essence,

01:18:23.260 his power his his magnification you know it's like so fucking great and the legend of brando

01:18:30.600 have you have you seen okay what what was he in what's the italian movie he was in like the main 0.57

01:18:36.920 movie was it the godfather yeah is that one godfather godfather one and god yeah okay i don't

01:18:42.500 think i've i don't think i've seen two i don't think i've seen either of those movies last hang

01:18:46.900 in Paris Godfather one Godfather two I mean that those are the movies on the waterfront I mean he

01:18:54.280 was just incredible I mean you got to see him in Streetcar Named Desire oh yeah night of the

01:19:00.680 iguana whoo bro he was Marlon Brando was in many ways I like he he he changed everything when it

01:19:13.520 came to acting and here's why because he was the first person to talk the way a real person talks

01:19:22.240 when you studied theater you always learned how to drop your jaw and you studied Alexander

01:19:27.760 technique and you came out as an actor of course and you did things that were rather large and

01:19:32.300 grandiose and Brando said that's not how I talk though you know and he was the first guy to mumble

01:19:37.800 make you reach i didn't know that and that was the first thing and the second thing he was was

01:19:43.820 just sexy like he was absolutely obscenely he was sensual he was he was carnal i mean women

01:19:54.340 and of course gay men and even straight men got uncomfortable because he was so beautiful he was 0.81

01:20:01.900 so beautiful he was such a an animal when he wandered on when he walked on stage in the west 0.75

01:20:08.800 end when they were performing streetcar named desire in the 50s okay when they were doing that

01:20:15.320 and he came in muscular he was lifting weights somebody lifted weights built like a brick

01:20:19.780 house sweating sweating and he walked on stage they thought in the theater these hoity-toity

01:20:27.440 british people who went to the theater who came from a long lineage of aristocracy

01:20:34.360 they thought that a drunk stagehand had wandered on stage and i'm not kidding

01:20:41.220 he was so astonishing so raw and animalistic and all those women were like i want to have 0.95

01:20:49.040 sex with that guy right now and all the men were like were were uncomfortable and he was 0.96

01:20:56.620 so undeniable and when he took his bows there was screaming there was screaming in the in the 0.97

01:21:03.940 audience the way elvis had done to those young teenage girls yeah that's what was going on

01:21:08.620 nobody had done that before that he was he was revolutionary he did there's that famous story

01:21:14.320 about brando where you know uh estella adler his teacher he was probably 17 18 whatever he was

01:21:19.500 and stella adler said to the class here's an acting exercise everyone your chickens in a hen

01:21:24.740 house right before a nuclear weapon hits and so everybody's like and brando was just sitting in

01:21:33.800 his chair not moving and she after she was done she said what were you doing you know he said

01:21:42.400 laying an egg and said but there was a nuclear missile about to hit and he says what does a

01:21:49.400 chicken know about nuclear fusion so he was just you know he was just a genius oh that's cool yeah

01:21:57.300 i haven't seen the closest thing i've got to a streetcar named desire is the simpsons version

01:22:02.200 oh no no you have to watch the streetcar named desire it changed everything there is no brando

01:22:09.200 i mean there's no de niro or pacino without brando he yeah yeah these were the young actors 0.99

01:22:13.880 watching him going what the fuck like he was a he was a male sex symbol but like the first guy to 0.99

01:22:21.360 take his shirt off the first guy to punch a door oh he was dangerous he was dangerous yeah he was 0.99

01:22:28.020 dangerous man he was like he was unpredictable he was what method the first guy to say i'm gonna

01:22:35.780 actually try to live this oh yeah no one did that i'm gonna be that character i'm gonna sweat like

01:22:41.980 that character i'm gonna smell like that character i'm gonna be that character i'm gonna wear a

01:22:45.700 dirty t-shirt i'm gonna really be that guy you're gonna my hands look like they've been working on

01:22:50.480 on on you know on something that's cool yeah okay yeah i'll do that i might do that tonight

01:22:56.360 you have to i've been trying to convince like my husband to watch older movies that's it he's hard

01:23:01.520 that's an important one yeah okay and then in in night of the iguana when he looks at the woman

01:23:06.640 and says I can burn a woman down that was radical what I can burn a woman down and everybody's like

01:23:13.520 oh and he had this I think a snakeskin jacket on and everybody back then was like that's outrageous 0.59

01:23:18.000 we're going to church right now we need to burn a woman down and she was all bunched up and she 0.82

01:23:22.640 tore her that was Tennessee Williams was a gay man who had who was a closeted gay man who was 0.95

01:23:26.940 writing all those plays so Marlon Brando was his his fantasy oh wow yeah Tennessee Williams is the

01:23:32.920 great playwright he was writing poems he worked in a shoe factory and he would write poems on the

01:23:37.560 shoes and then he'd put them in the shoes never to be seen again because they were this side up

01:23:41.840 wow yeah how do you do you get all this information out of books is this just from

01:23:46.440 reading i'm just an actor so i i studied it you know i was just around it i don't know i'm just

01:23:50.840 old oh it's fun i got a lot of useless information in my head no it's fun yeah it's great i like

01:23:56.820 romantic i like romance i think i think romance isn't i think there are two things that are very

01:24:02.100 very rare, two commodities that are very rare. One is adventure and the other is intimacy.

01:24:07.000 And, you know, those are the two things we stay alive for, like not knowing what's going to

01:24:10.860 happen next, but doing it anyway. Right. And then intimacy is everything. Like, I mean,

01:24:15.480 we stay alive for those moments. Humor, of course, but humor is also a form of intimacy

01:24:19.240 when you're laughing together and you're laughing at something. Those are the moments you remember.

01:24:22.980 Those are the moments that bond you with somebody. Yeah. And, um, why has that gotten,

01:24:27.560 I mean, do you think the reason, part of the reason intimacy has gotten lost is because

01:24:31.180 the role between like male and female has been so blurred you could say that but i i think

01:24:37.260 intimacy has always been such a rare commodity and maybe part of it's because if you try to get it

01:24:41.820 you it's like it's like a tiger in the tall grass it's like a little bit like um it's like this it's

01:24:47.420 like uh i i see it when it's in the corner of my eye you know it's always clearing its throat it's

01:24:55.200 always over there but when i try to find it when i try to look at it it disappears you know intimacy

01:24:59.920 is one of those things that that has to happen it's such a beautiful happy accident and i and i

01:25:06.100 think um i think that's part of what is so bonding about going through something hard together

01:25:12.440 because sometimes you really need somebody when you really need someone in in in that boat with

01:25:19.180 with no paddle in the middle of the ocean and you can't see land and you're really clinging on to

01:25:24.820 somebody, that's, that's a bonding experience. That's, that's probably, that's probably one of

01:25:32.480 the hidden gifts in destruction, right? That's very true. Yeah. And so I think that intimacy,

01:25:39.700 yeah, I think intimacy, it's lost so easily in a relationship. It's lost so damn easily.

01:25:46.360 And that's why I think a relationship is like a garden that you have to constantly tend to,

01:25:50.980 you know and and something happens in relationships too where intimacy gets real awkward because what

01:25:57.760 it is is it's it's a loss of power and and you know you you start competing with each other

01:26:04.780 when you have children in a relationship you got less sleep than i did you sleep more than i do i 1.00

01:26:09.580 had to be up fuck that man fuck off you know it's like i you can't get into that and it's really 1.00

01:26:15.680 easy to because what happens is it then gets it creeps into like even initiating sex or initiating 1.00

01:26:23.420 like that thing cuddling becomes I'm not going to be the one who initiated I always initiated

01:26:28.660 or whatever it might be and then you start counting and you start keeping score and

01:26:33.520 that's that's the enemy that's the enemy it's hard man have you ever seen that like I think

01:26:43.060 sometimes I wonder like definitely yeah yeah but I also think sometimes like there are people that

01:26:47.420 wear their hearts on their sleeve right there are people that that that that just they they're not

01:26:54.300 afraid to look weak and bad and there's something in yeah I think we fall in love sometimes with

01:27:02.180 the expression in someone's eye I actually I don't know how to prove that but like sometimes I'll see

01:27:07.740 something like what I what I love about my wife is her courage. She's fearless. And she's so

01:27:15.360 good at being grateful. And I think that's incredible. I love that. And then sometimes

01:27:21.660 you'll see another thing in someone's eye that I'm drawn to courage. I'm drawn. And I'm also

01:27:28.860 drawn to hunger. You know, sometimes I see in someone's eye, someone who has hunger, they have

01:27:35.560 you have that by the way you have that yeah you have a you have you have a lot going on with you

01:27:41.540 because you've been through a lot and um and I I love that I love seeing someone who has

01:27:48.560 that that sort of that expression of hunger that expression of gratefulness because you know that

01:27:55.800 comes with also like stark terror yeah doesn't it like you know like it's like you don't know

01:28:02.380 when it's going to go away. And part of gratefulness is being like, dude, I'm going to enjoy

01:28:07.920 this now because I know it's going to go away and I can't handle it if it does. When I got

01:28:15.720 Mad TV, I was working as a temp and I was living in Hoboken, New Jersey over a Chinese restaurant

01:28:22.600 with a roommate. And I remember thinking to myself, if I don't get this part, it was five

01:28:28.360 auditions. And I said, if I don't get this part, I might die. Like, I don't think I can handle not

01:28:34.020 getting it. I don't think I can handle having my hopes dashed. I can't, I don't think I can handle

01:28:39.360 it. I don't think I can get back on a plane and go back to sweaty Hoboken, New Jersey. I want to

01:28:45.260 be here in LA so badly. I want to be a star so badly. I want to be an actor so badly. I want to

01:28:49.640 be, I want to, I want to make money as an actor. So I want to be successful. So all these things,

01:28:54.320 you know and i don't even know where i was going with that but that's something that you should

01:29:00.900 always keep close to you you should always feel like you should always have that hunger

01:29:06.280 right i mean i get i get i think i get irritated too quickly at people who don't have it

01:29:11.140 like when i started well when i got out of the whole autoimmunity have like dying from an 0.78

01:29:17.180 autoimmune disorder thing with diet that's kind of a fucking thing yeah left when i was dying

01:29:22.060 immune disease when when that ended like my life kind of opened up and i was like oh if i can get 0.64

01:29:27.760 through that i can get through anything i was like i can get through anything who knows and a lot of

01:29:32.480 my friends that i was friends with at the time because i changed it like completely you know i

01:29:36.420 got healthy so that was a big change but it also changed my perspective of like who knows what's

01:29:41.200 out there that could be accomplished uh and a lot of people i talked to i could see i think some

01:29:46.940 people can see this but you have a friend and there's a bunch of things that they're doing

01:29:50.520 wrong that's making their life worse and you go hey you could just fix these three things

01:29:54.920 and wow like your life would be pretty good are you gonna do that and they're like nah no way

01:30:01.820 can you not see that in can you not see the different paths no because they can't do that

01:30:07.840 no no they can't you know why they can't do that because if they do that then they have to take

01:30:11.980 responsibility for their potential like you can't you have you have to have parachutes you can't

01:30:17.080 Like get rid of all the things holding you back.

01:30:19.520 Because if you do that, then you might be who you're supposed to be.

01:30:22.660 And that takes a lot of responsibility. 1.00

01:30:25.380 Fuck that. 1.00

01:30:26.040 I'd rather, you know, I don't want to be a champion. 1.00

01:30:28.260 That's too, the crown's too heavy.

01:30:29.700 I'll be third place.

01:30:30.680 That's cool.

01:30:31.340 It still comes with a lot of stuff and not as much attention.

01:30:34.500 I've suffered from that.

01:30:36.240 No way.

01:30:37.280 Yes.

01:30:37.880 Why?

01:30:38.560 I don't suffer from that with comedy.

01:30:40.480 Like I want to be the best.

01:30:41.280 Yeah, okay.

01:30:41.760 I'm ruthless with that.

01:30:42.720 I want to be better than everybody.

01:30:44.680 And, you know, and I think I have the potential to be as good as anybody, period.

01:30:49.140 So I'm ruthless with that.

01:30:50.440 But everything else, you know, I don't know.

01:30:53.240 You probably can't have that in all aspects of your life, though.

01:30:56.080 Oh, yeah.

01:30:56.340 I'm not competitive.

01:30:57.540 I said that to my dad.

01:30:58.540 I go, I'm not competitive at all.

01:30:59.600 My dad went like this.

01:31:00.400 He did the slow turn. 0.99

01:31:01.360 He went, are you fucking kidding me? 0.99

01:31:06.660 It's like, I'm not. 0.98

01:31:08.120 But, you know, when it comes to, yeah, I want the most out of life.

01:31:13.280 Yeah, why not?

01:31:14.200 i want to be the i want my next special to be the best thing that anybody's seen you know like 0.95

01:31:19.260 bono was saying that about fucking but i really do like bono was saying that about um he goes let's 0.95

01:31:24.260 why don't we just try to make the best album ever yeah they're laughing no i'm serious let's try 0.99

01:31:28.640 like i'm trying to do that with false gods i really am i'm trying to do i'm trying to be i'm 0.64

01:31:33.900 trying to literally carve every fucking inch of that thing and i want it to be the best thing 0.94

01:31:39.620 like when i i want to be able to die the next day i want to get off stage and die and be like i did 0.98

01:31:45.300 it and just die like i'll be fine you know that that idea that's awesome yeah you know that idea

01:31:51.360 like you know fiona apple remember her she's a great singer writer yes for the year back in yeah

01:31:57.800 she said when you when you write an album and you feel like you can never write another song again

01:32:02.260 that you're completely empty that's when you know you're done i love that i love that like you feel

01:32:07.160 like a hollow shell like like you're like oh I'll never be oh I'm done I've said everything I could

01:32:11.600 say but then if you just keep showing up somehow it might take a year but somehow you find more

01:32:19.160 and you're like oh thank god yeah the music has not stopped I had to are you like it's like you're

01:32:26.320 you're taking a stone and trying to get some water out of it nothing you're repeating yourself 1.00

01:32:32.620 you're derivative you're a piece of shit you're lying and then you get something oh wait i think 1.00

01:32:38.900 this is an idea i can run with you know and then two years later maybe you have an hour oh that's 1.00

01:32:44.060 good yeah you should be you should be on this journey i'm gonna help you yeah okay i i'm down

01:32:50.460 yeah i think i have some stuff i mean i've done i don't think i know you have some stuff

01:32:55.480 i have a book i've been writing a book you do yeah it's not ready yet what's it about it's a

01:33:00.340 lot of editing um going through like chronic illness and then having that go away with diet

01:33:07.400 and then dad getting famous and then what happened with him and just it was like a memoir but i never

01:33:12.560 felt like i could end it because my life was so shitty for so long so dad would be like maybe

01:33:18.580 how's the book going i was like are you joking can you imagine if the ending was now like i can't i

01:33:23.920 can't do that so i feel like maybe it's to be continued no that's that's true and that some

01:33:29.880 people told me that it was like maybe it's multiple books but i feel like if i end it right now when

01:33:33.500 things are good i could end it and then if something else happens then write something

01:33:37.280 else later yeah maybe the book just maybe you just the last page is you just writing and it

01:33:41.380 just kind of trails off onto the desk it's like you know just a straight line like anyway anyway

01:33:47.160 to be continued yeah to be content don't even finish continue to be content to be content you

01:33:52.780 know yeah because it's true yeah it really is like the one thing that i'll say that you know

01:33:58.680 at 57 like I it's it's always it's always a process of discovery it's never over because

01:34:05.380 now I have my kids what's really cool about getting older is is you become less a part of

01:34:11.620 the equation like you have like I have a lot more a lot of other people in my life whose happiness

01:34:18.260 is more important than my own but that doesn't mean that I'm not seeking fulfillment but part

01:34:23.140 of that fulfillment might be the fact that I'm I'm of service I'm serving I'm not I'm not taking

01:34:31.420 I'm just giving what's your favorite thing about having kids um watching watching them first I

01:34:41.920 believe they come through you and I try to remind myself that they don't come from me but through

01:34:45.920 me and and I think um just having a creature whose welfare and development is more important

01:34:55.620 than my own and so what it does is it takes me completely out of myself completely out of my

01:35:01.360 problems and I'm able to focus on them so teaching my son how to box or how to how to do jujitsu or

01:35:10.180 he's wrestling now as a wrestler so teaching him the things that I know about wrestling like the

01:35:15.800 little details of watching him use that on another 12 year old and it working you know yesterday i

01:35:21.400 was explaining zeno the philosopher to him was so awesome that my son is so funny i was teaching him

01:35:28.640 like the the philosopher zeno and he actually got it he got what that philosopher was talking about

01:35:36.140 and he was interested in it and and then he's yesterday he sent me a text he goes dad i just

01:35:42.200 want to say thank you for your help and I wrote this is at nine at night and I wrote back I love

01:35:48.240 you buddy that's what dads are for and then he wrote and by the way I'm gay and I go and I go

01:35:54.680 and yeah I wrote I wrote what and he goes he goes oops I meant I'm great that's what I meant I'm

01:36:02.060 great now I go no I'm going with the first one that's how funny he is so it's like it's like I 0.86

01:36:07.320 got this little comedian in my fucking house he's so funny dude he didn't do his homework and he 0.96

01:36:12.780 lied about it and I go you lied about not doing he goes I did lie and I go really I go you seem 0.99

01:36:18.300 okay with that and he goes well because you know if I'm honest you'll get mad at me I go I'm not

01:36:21.780 gonna be I'll never be mad if you're honest I get mad when you lie why didn't you do your homework 0.95

01:36:25.680 and he goes can I be honest I go no I want you to lie again so I can pull your head off your spine

01:36:30.680 tell me what you know yeah he goes all right I'll be honest as long as you don't promise you won't

01:36:34.500 be mad i go i'm not gonna be mad why why did you lie he goes well the truth is i didn't do my 0.99

01:36:40.040 homework because i don't give a fuck oh my and he could see my face changed he knew he might die 0.98

01:36:46.080 and he goes hold on before you get mad let me check something hold on let me see something 0.99

01:36:50.040 no fucks in there either and i was like that's funny and then he made a fake phone call and he 0.99

01:36:58.280 goes i called the fuck store they're closed i was like these are good jokes they're good jokes like 0.99

01:37:03.840 he just lives to make me laugh. So, so it's that, 0.99

01:37:07.000 I guess that's fun to watch him kind of find his way in the world.

01:37:10.700 That's funny. Yeah. Sounds like a smart 12 year old. Yeah. Um,

01:37:14.620 do you have, as we could wrap up with this, do you,

01:37:18.440 is there like one lesson that you want to instill on your children?

01:37:23.040 Yeah. There's something that comes to mind. Yeah. My, my, my one lesson,

01:37:27.640 I suppose you could say a couple of things.

01:37:29.140 One is have a sense of humor about life and don't take yourself too seriously

01:37:32.860 and learn how to be self-resilient those are all you know blah blah blah but I think I might tell

01:37:40.400 them to stay close to things you can't measure that's what I would say I would say to understand

01:37:47.400 that there is more to life than that which you can measure and that which you can see and feel

01:37:53.760 and touch and taste and I think that's a very important thing to understand I think that we are

01:38:00.140 creatures that have imagination and imagination is where greatness comes from i'll never see

01:38:06.560 infinity i'll never know or see what a negative integer is but i know it exists

01:38:11.700 you know there are there have been plenty of mathematicians that dream up a theorem that

01:38:18.520 bears no relevance to the material world and then they die and 120 years later when they're trying

01:38:24.640 to put a rover on Mars. Some astrophysics says, hey, this equation that was conceived in 1896

01:38:35.180 bears direct relevance. And the only way we're going to get that rover on Mars is using this

01:38:40.740 equation. That's the stuff that makes me believe in God. That, you know, you may not be the

01:38:50.500 originator of what your expression is, but you can certainly be an antenna to it. You can certainly

01:38:58.060 be a channel for it. And it's up to you to figure out how to open yourself up to be a channel

01:39:03.200 to something original. And so that's what I would say to them. I would say your job in one,

01:39:11.400 if you're lucky, if you're lucky, your job might be to be somebody who's in the business of

01:39:15.880 original self-expression. That's certainly what I try to do. So when I talk about being a

01:39:20.320 comedian or an author. It's really about trying to write something that surprises me and that moves

01:39:27.300 me. Because if it does that to me, then I surprise myself. And that came from somewhere I didn't know

01:39:34.000 I had. And I may not have had it. Maybe I channeled it from something much higher than

01:39:39.940 myself. That's where I start. That's my conversation on the idea of God. That's where I

01:39:47.120 start my conversation. I like that. You can't, yeah. I think knowing that you can't rationalize

01:39:52.800 everything is very important, especially for people who try to rationalize everything.

01:39:56.780 You can't, not everything. It's like some things exist that aren't rational.

01:40:01.600 Yeah. And, and, and one of the things that I got from your father, um, you know, partially,

01:40:06.660 it's not that I had, I hadn't been exposed to the idea, but that there's a great deal of meaning

01:40:10.660 and value in suffering and that you will not escape suffering you will not escape chaos

01:40:19.340 it comes for all of us and no one gets out of this thing alive and suffering is a bigger

01:40:26.500 opportunity than success is success has this sort of idea it's you know success reaching that thing

01:40:34.140 that you aim for which I've done I drew a line through everything I ever came to LA for

01:40:39.060 um it has this stagnant quality once you're done man it has its own crisis that's built in

01:40:46.800 and you know you better figure out something cosmic or something much bigger than yourself

01:40:54.840 to fight for and to aim for so those are all the things i tell my kids that was great yeah

01:41:01.960 thank you thank you for coming on thanks for having me man it's really nice to meet you

01:41:06.420 i don't know why i'm holding the couch like this it's like i'm conversation is riveting it's

01:41:11.200 riveting to me i'm like i'm holding this i hope you guys enjoyed that as the striations of my

01:41:16.540 chest get worked you and your husband are in phenomenal shape i feel like i'm gonna put that

01:41:22.600 jacket back on i don't like i don't like standing next to you guys you look like you came out of

01:41:27.680 like the nordic you look like you stepped out of an ice palace hello and now the king and queen 0.54

01:41:33.280 mikhaila and what's your husband's name jordan jordan yeah it should be thor jordan slash thor

01:41:41.000 yeah what's his last name fuller yeah well that doesn't sound like a hero's name but you know

01:41:46.160 what i mean thank you this has been awesome yeah that was fun yeah

The Mikhaila Peterson Podcast - June 18, 2024

JBP, Woke Universities, Parenting, Politics, Acting & Education ｜ Bryan Callen EP 203

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