The Mikhaila Peterson Podcast - Senator Ron Johnson on Corruption, Elon’s DOGE, RFK Jr. and Trump Presidency ｜ EP 213

00:00:00.000 The type of corruption that I really hope, you know, Bobby exposes is the type where they're

00:00:04.080 doing the bidding of the large companies as opposed to protecting America's health, whether

00:00:08.720 it's with big pharma, whether it's big ag, whether it's big food processing. I come from the private

00:00:12.860 sector. I have no problem with big businesses. I've got a problem when you have a large business

00:00:16.520 using their power to corrupt the process, to capture the regulatory agencies. You know,

00:00:20.640 you've got a revolving door of personnel. I mean, you pay a government employee a royalty on some

00:00:25.140 patentable drug, are they going to really do a very good job of determining is that

00:00:29.480 really safe? What gives me hope is I think most Americans agree on the big

00:00:32.940 issue. We're a horrible divided nation but there's no reason for us to be

00:00:36.520 divided. What I hope Bobby Kennedy can do is expose all this so that more people

00:00:40.580 have their eyes open. These people that Trump has put forward to run different

00:00:46.300 sectors of the government, how likely is it that somebody like RFK Jr. is

00:00:50.580 actually going to be running. Senator Ron Johnson, welcome to my podcast. Thanks for

00:01:00.080 being me. I'm Michaela. Yeah, this should be fun. I guess first off, I said thank you

00:01:05.620 for letting me speak at the roundtable a few months ago. That was a huge opportunity. I

00:01:12.380 really appreciate it. And I'm glad you've been hosting these roundtables kind of talking

00:01:17.420 about, well, things that are often shied away from. So I really appreciate the opportunity.

00:01:22.760 Well, I really appreciate you presenting. I did not know your story. It's an amazing story.

00:01:28.900 You know, you're looking good. I hope you're feeling good.

00:01:32.400 I am. I'm feeling fine. When did you start doing those roundtables? I know you did one on COVID

00:01:38.180 a number of years ago when it was really not the time to be talking about it.

00:01:43.580 Well, I was chairman of the Committee on Homeland Security and Government Affairs. It had nothing really to do with health. But when the pandemic struck, I started holding hearings while I was still chairman. In February, I found out that we don't make precursor chemicals. We don't do active pharmaceutical ingredients, which is a real vulnerability we have as a nation.

00:02:05.340 And then in May, I brought in Johnny Anitas, who had done the analysis of the Princess

00:02:09.960 Cruise data, just to calm everybody down.

00:02:12.500 And this was kind of the start of the pandemic.

00:02:14.540 This is not Ebola.

00:02:15.660 It's not SARS.

00:02:16.440 It's not MERS.

00:02:17.000 It might be twice as bad as a bad flu season.

00:02:21.180 So don't freak out if you're elderly.

00:02:23.480 If you have certain comorbidities, take precautions for the rest of us.

00:02:27.080 We'll probably get over it.

00:02:28.140 Then in November and December of 2020, before the vaccine had any emergency use authorization, I had Peter McCulloch, Harvey Risch, a bunch of other people come in and talk about hydroxychloroquine.

00:02:40.420 The following month, I had Pierre Corey come in and talk about ivermectin.

00:02:44.000 He was definitely confident.

00:02:45.840 He had the data, he had his manuscript, provide that to NIH, and the pandemic's over.

00:02:50.940 Little did he know the vested interests that wanted a vaccine and were going to crush and sabotage any early treatment.

00:02:57.980 So that was his chairman. And then, you know, we lost the majority. I timed out as chairman.

00:03:03.480 So all I could really do is hold public events. So the first public event I held was in June of 2021 because nobody was advocating for the vaccine injury.

00:03:15.220 So Ken Ruckers, who is a football star with Green Bay Packers, his wife is vaccinated.

00:03:20.360 Not a Wisconsin resident, but he heard of my work. So he contacted me and I said, well, if you're if you're willing to put yourself out there,

00:03:26.160 I'm happy to use my platform and develop a forum where people like, you know,

00:03:31.220 Bree Dressen, Matty DeGarry, his wife, Cheryl,

00:03:34.560 a couple other individuals who were vaccine injured could tell their story.

00:03:37.960 Now, I was hoping, again, this is June of 2020.

00:03:40.960 This is when everybody's safe and effective, right?

00:03:43.960 Well, it wasn't.

00:03:45.500 I was hoping that all the TV cameras there,

00:03:47.840 there'd be a report or two that would have some measure of sympathy for those individuals,

00:03:52.880 but they didn't.

00:03:53.560 So the first question out of their mouths was, you know, Ken Rutgers, are you going to use this form to sue people?

00:03:58.760 Are you going to try and make money off of this?

00:04:00.580 It was a great time.

00:04:02.120 But I followed that up with another hearing in Washington, D.C., with not only vaccine injury,

00:04:06.760 but also medical experts and medical researchers to talk about that.

00:04:10.840 And then probably the more famous public event was in January of 2022, COVID-19, a second opinion.

00:04:19.740 And that's where I assembled a lot of these individuals.

00:04:21.980 And, you know, we just laid down the line, followed that up in December of 2022, where we talked specifically more about the vaccine.

00:04:29.320 I'm sorry, the genetic injection. It's not a vaccine.

00:04:32.800 Exactly how it works, you know, how it could potentially cause the injuries that we were seeing.

00:04:38.080 And so that was kind of the model, the template.

00:04:40.320 I've done some other ones, but it was just my pleasure to, you know, host, you know, RFK Junior, Junior Dad, Casey and Callie Means.

00:04:49.980 And by the way, that was all prompted by I saw the interview with Tucker Carlson with Casey and Callie Means.

00:04:55.240 And I said, this is this is something that we need to provide a platform and highlight it.

00:04:59.700 So I couldn't have been more pleased with the presentations by people like you.

00:05:05.100 The attention is garnered.

00:05:07.880 Yeah.

00:05:08.040 I give all the credit to Casey and Callie Means and R.F. Kennedy Jr. for, you know, really highlighting this issue and particularly Bobby Kennedy for having the courage to suspend his presidential campaign, join forces with President Trump, you know, lay their differences aside, focus on area of agreement, because not only do we have hopes of addressing chronic illness, but it truly is a demonstration of how you can heal and unify a very divided nation.

00:05:36.920 I completely agree. Was there something that kind of led you down the path of skepticism

00:05:44.440 that I guess you saw in the government when you were working? Because you were one of the first

00:05:50.760 people to have some skepticism towards the vaccine or just the response towards COVID.

00:05:55.880 And then recently with this health epidemic, you know, not everybody's talking about it.

00:06:00.260 So is there something that made you skeptical initially?

00:06:03.480 I think I'm just a skeptic in general.

00:06:05.220 I'm an accountant.

00:06:06.840 I ran a manufacturing plant that produced plastic packaging materials for medical devices,

00:06:10.660 so I understood the industry.

00:06:12.540 I came here because we were mortgaging our kids' future.

00:06:15.240 I didn't come here to investigate, but I became chairman of the Senate Oversight Committee, basically.

00:06:19.700 And so I started doing investigations.

00:06:21.020 So I saw corruption within the FBI, within the Department of Justice, within our intelligence agencies.

00:06:26.260 So I already saw corruption within federal government agencies to the detriment of the American public.

00:06:31.880 And then when COVID happened, I mean, none, our response to COVID, none of it made sense to me.

00:06:38.500 You know, Peter McCulloch had the four pillars of pandemic response, you know, try and limit the spread, early treatment, hospital treatment, and vaccines.

00:06:48.760 And, you know, we certainly tried to stop the spread by destroying our economy, destroying small businesses.

00:06:54.400 That didn't make sense.

00:06:56.060 But we completely sabotaged early treatment, hospital treatment.

00:06:59.560 And I mean, let's face it, they developed protocols that killed people.

00:07:04.000 You put some, you slap something in a ventilator, you know, 80, 90% chance they weren't ever

00:07:08.020 going to get off.

00:07:08.760 So everything was directed toward a vaccine very early on.

00:07:12.480 I was talking to the CEO of one of the manufacturers of hydroxychloroquine through April, and he's

00:07:17.800 really excited about this.

00:07:18.900 You know, he provided like 30,000 doses to the national stockpile, and they were going

00:07:24.460 to do all kinds of studies.

00:07:25.440 They're going to come out toward the end of May.

00:07:27.020 But all of a sudden, tail end of April, early May, the communication just went dead silent.

00:07:33.540 It's like everybody in the industry just agreed, we're going to focus on the vaccine, nothing else.

00:07:40.300 And then fortunately for me, I got connected with Michael Yeadon, who for 30 years was an employee of Pfizer company, his specialty toxicity.

00:07:49.540 He was, in the end of his career, the senior vice president in terms of research for Pfizer.

00:07:54.380 he could not believe what his colleagues were developing he was beside himself he said you know

00:07:59.960 Ron there's a whole list of ingredients that we do not put into injectables because they're toxic

00:08:05.280 to the body when I found out that they were going to produce an injectable that caused the body

00:08:11.120 the body cells to produce something that was toxic to it he literally could not believe that

00:08:18.540 you know researched it further and found out no that's exactly what they're going to do so he came

00:08:23.120 out and became very public of it. And again, fortunately, he educated me. There was no way

00:08:28.900 I was ever going to get that injection. And I started trying to warn people very early on.

00:08:33.660 Again, I'm not a doctor, not a medical researcher, but I just used what information was available

00:08:38.680 publicly, the VAERS report. I'm the first one that probably got censored with my VAERS chart

00:08:43.280 showing this explosion in deaths associated with the COVID-19 vaccine. Now, I presented that,

00:08:49.060 I think, end of April to Francis Collins. We had a meeting with a bunch of Republican senators that

00:08:53.000 you know dr collins i mean they're all patting themselves on the back because they finally got

00:08:56.040 tests okay i'm talking to francis council are you watching veyers i think at the time there

00:09:03.180 were a few thousand deaths 46 percent of those deaths were occurring on the day of vaccination

00:09:07.160 within two days wow so when i confront him with that he said well senator you know we've associated

00:09:12.680 six deaths with the child you know it was a child age bearing women um that associated with j and j

00:09:21.620 caused by clotting but those six deaths otherwise he said you know senator people die but that's

00:09:27.340 what a cavalier attitude he had toward that so that you know really raised my antenna in terms

00:09:32.160 of you know the corruption in terms of cdc the fda the nih in terms of just ignoring

00:09:38.040 uh the safety signals that were screaming at them and they continue to ignore it they continue to

00:09:44.360 cover it up so no i'm uh i've seen the corrupt sense we should have always been pushing early

00:09:50.460 treatment. We should have been exploring. And by the way, he lied to me at the end of December of

00:09:55.120 2020 when I pressed him from those hearings. What is the NIH doing in terms of exploring early

00:10:00.740 treatment? He said, oh, Sandra, we're spending hundreds of millions of dollars on exploring

00:10:04.480 every molecule on the shelf. He said, okay, show me where you spend the money. Show me what you've

00:10:10.680 studied. Never got that information. So again, these guys have been lying to me since really

00:10:16.660 day one since the COVID pandemic occurred, and they haven't stopped lying, and they certainly

00:10:22.820 haven't been transparent to the American public. So no, I wouldn't trust them further than I could

00:10:26.700 throw them. Wow, okay. Okay, I think something that would be helpful to people, like, especially

00:10:32.340 people who are more on the, like, liberal or Democratic side, is when RFK Jr. is talking

00:10:38.440 about corruption, you know, what is he referring to? So when you referred to corruption you saw

00:10:43.860 the FBI and CDC, etc. What exactly are you seeing? What does that mean? So it takes different forms

00:10:50.760 in the FBI, Department of Justice, intelligence communities. You've got people that are generally

00:10:57.380 left leaning and they're deep state actors. I mean, they look at a Republican president and

00:11:02.700 they definitely say this too shall pass. They probably have the same attitude toward any

00:11:07.380 president. But again, they're more than likely to do the bidding of somebody left of center

00:11:11.140 president versus Donald Trump. They completely sabotaged his administration. That's that type

00:11:16.240 of corruption. The type of corruption that I really hope Bobby exposes is the type where you

00:11:22.180 have the corporate interests. I come from the private sector. I have no problem with big

00:11:26.120 businesses. I've got a problem when you have a large business using their power to corrupt the

00:11:30.500 process, to capture the regulatory agencies. And again, I'm not for big regulation either,

00:11:35.180 but we need some. Okay, we actually need a government body that ensures safety of food

00:11:41.280 and health. But that agency has to be of high integrity and not corruptible, not captured. So

00:11:47.600 what we've seen is these large businesses that are regulated by these agencies, they're not stupid,

00:11:53.780 they've got all kinds of power, they figure out how to capture those agencies. You know, you've

00:11:57.860 got a revolving door of personnel. You remember the kind of famous video with James O'Keefe where

00:12:03.020 he's interviewing a guy from Pfizer and just talking about the revolving door. You take a

00:12:08.420 look at all the FDA heads that are now either on the boards of directors of Moderna or Pfizer or

00:12:14.420 whatever. It's a revolving door. So it's corrupted the process. You see the royalties being paid

00:12:19.980 to government employees. I mean, you pay a government employee a royalty on some patentable

00:12:25.420 drug. Are they going to really do a very good job of determining is that really safe? And we've

00:12:32.420 seen it time and time and time again of these drugs just you know some of them just flying

00:12:37.520 through the approval process like the the covid injection um yeah without the science backing it

00:12:44.020 up billions being made so again it's really it's that corporate capture of the agencies

00:12:51.120 the revolving door and so they're doing the bidding of the large companies as opposed to

00:12:57.180 protecting america's health whether it's with big pharma whether it's big ag whether it's big

00:13:02.080 um food processing the military industrial complex remember why is eisenhower warned us

00:13:07.560 about this in his is in his farewell address the military industrial complex he also said

00:13:12.480 you know be careful of federal government funding of research it will corrupt research it has

00:13:18.460 you know 70 percent of scientific studies there was a survey done in nature magazine in 2016 70

00:13:24.740 percent, the data can't be replicated. That's insane. You had the head of the New England

00:13:31.640 Journal of Medicine resign in 2000. She later started writing about why she resigned. I'm

00:13:37.660 going to read the quote from, this is Marsha Angel. This was in 2009. She said, similar conflicts

00:13:43.900 of interest and biases exist in virtually every field of medicine, particularly those that rely

00:13:49.300 heavily on drugs or devices. It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical

00:13:54.860 research that is published or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative

00:13:59.580 medical guidelines. She said, I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and

00:14:05.860 reluctantly over my two decades as editor of the New England Journal of Medicine. Now, again,

00:14:11.160 she resigned in 2000. So we've known about this now for decades. And you understand how powerful

00:14:19.020 these interests are okay the big corporations big government they've suppressed all that truth

00:14:26.480 and what I hope Bobby Kennedy do can do is expose all this so that more people have their eyes

00:14:32.640 opened as certainly I did as a million other Americans have have had our eyes open during

00:14:38.320 COVID we saw we saw what a miserably failed response that was and they're still not admitting

00:14:44.340 it they're going to do it again with now bird flu or some other you know pandemic x they've got i

00:14:51.160 mean they're so bald as they're just coming up with a name you know yeah something's going to

00:14:56.100 happen and we're going to have to take control that's you know the whole the all the amendments

00:14:59.480 to the who treaty and stuff so we need more americans we need more people globally with

00:15:05.420 their eyes open in terms of what is happening to us why did i decide to build an online university

00:15:12.560 Well.

00:15:14.820 There is a crisis now in higher education.

00:15:18.200 The president of Harvard University resigned today, weeks after...

00:15:21.500 Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Penn's code of conduct?

00:15:26.300 We have a problem of affordability and cost, spiraling student loans.

00:15:30.300 We have a groupthink emerging, and that warps the entire academic enterprise.

00:15:35.620 I experimented with putting my lectures online

00:15:38.320 and found that I could teach far more people

00:15:41.280 at very low cost than I could at the university.

00:15:44.780 And I thought, well, why not scale that?

00:15:50.400 What I'm hoping to do is to find the best lectures in the world

00:15:54.080 and to bring them to as wide as possible an audience.

00:15:59.260 He came to me and he basically said,

00:16:01.100 I want you to do the best course that you've always wanted to do.

00:16:04.660 We want to bring you the highest quality education possible at the lowest possible price.

00:16:09.700 It's extremely high level content that anybody can use to educate themselves and it's available to everybody.

00:16:14.940 Well, that would be good.

00:16:17.740 I think it's funny because I got cancelled at the university so I could try to return the favour.

00:16:24.760 I was shocked.

00:16:25.920 So I've always, from my experience, being chronically ill and managing to put it into remission with diet, which was mind blowing to begin with, I got skeptical about anything I knew beforehand because it was like I had total faith in the medical system and then I fixed it by removing foods, something like incurable by removing foods.

00:16:48.180 And so I lost faith in a lot of institutions. Do you think the solution to the corruption is as simple as not allowing, like you said, the revolving door? I can't even believe that's allowed. I thought that they would have put some sort of rules in place so that you couldn't work at all these institutions. That seems to be just the logical thing to do.

00:17:08.200 that and then the government payouts from these large corporations that needs to stop are those

00:17:14.780 the two simple solutions to the corruption problem at least that bobby kennedy is looking into

00:17:18.760 the overall solution is the truth yeah uncovering it and and uh you know exposing it but i think

00:17:26.380 there's three fundamental problems right now uh maybe four in terms of what you're talking about

00:17:30.380 the royalties but but first is again the corruption of science we need a high integrity

00:17:36.140 arbiter of the truth within science now there's a whole reason why science is corrupted yeah

00:17:40.920 federal government funding other people funding i mean if you're funding research you're going to

00:17:45.040 get the result you want okay so those who fund it get the result they want that's not science

00:17:50.580 um when it comes to vaccines i mean the fact that you have no liability and listen i'm a

00:17:57.300 private sector guy i avoided lawyers in the judicial process like a plague okay lawyers

00:18:02.020 aren't my favorite profession but they play a key role in terms of adversarial process to keep

00:18:10.080 people honest okay um and and the other fundamental problem is is pharmaceutical advertising i mean

00:18:18.360 if you look at those ads i mean i have no idea what those drugs are for but if you listen to

00:18:23.880 all the side effects which by the way they only have to publish a portion of them if they had to

00:18:29.140 list the entire list of adverse events that they know about with these drugs it probably take two

00:18:34.800 minutes of the commercial so the only reason they're spending billions on media and social

00:18:40.000 media of pharmaceutical companies is to capture the narrative and they captured it during covid

00:18:44.600 they were able to capture to such such a extent extent that they were able to censor people like

00:18:50.020 bobby kennedy or my veyers chart uh they they turned the truth into misinformation and malinformation

00:18:58.140 OK, so that's got to be a real problem.

00:19:01.160 And, you know, the other issue you're talking about, the revolving door, the royalties being paid.

00:19:05.180 I mean, that's just an obvious area where corruption is going to occur.

00:19:10.520 So, again, there's some fundamental issues that need to be addressed that way, which would go a long way toward, you know, helping fix the problem.

00:19:16.940 Because we need these eight.

00:19:19.300 We need somebody to assure food and drug safety.

00:19:23.240 And by the way, we need drug companies.

00:19:25.420 I'm not the only guy that wants a life-saving new cure,

00:19:27.600 but when you see drug companies using their power get a drug,

00:19:32.440 a new drug,

00:19:33.260 patentable drug approved that doesn't work as well as the current drug

00:19:36.600 that's generic or other molecules.

00:19:39.000 I mean,

00:19:39.140 that's why they sabotage early treatment with things like ivermectin,

00:19:42.260 hydroxychloroquine.

00:19:43.180 There's no money in it.

00:19:44.640 Those things were pennies of tablet versus remdesivir,

00:19:48.780 which knocks out your kidneys.

00:19:50.680 Okay.

00:19:51.240 Or,

00:19:51.600 or the vaccine,

00:19:52.700 you know,

00:19:52.980 tens hundreds of billions of dollars spent on on that injection yeah wild okay so um i'm and my

00:20:02.440 my dad's canadian i live in the u.s thank goodness um but i'm not as familiar with u.s

00:20:07.620 politics as i should be these people that trump has put forward to run different sectors of the

00:20:15.220 government he's suggesting them they have to be signed off by the senate correct correct yeah we

00:20:21.820 have a confirmation process here so he nominates and then they go through senate hearings and then

00:20:27.340 we vote the nominees up or down and so how likely is it that somebody like rfk junior is actually

00:20:34.160 going to be running these or that doge is going to exist things like that well doge is going to

00:20:39.460 exist outside the government so nothing else right there yeah there i mean and i think it's

00:20:44.400 interesting elon musk and he'll find people he wants people really high iq willing to work 80

00:20:49.240 hours a week. You'll probably make it work longer based on the book I've read about him. He wants

00:20:55.360 him to work for free. So because he's Elon Musk, you'll probably find people. That's outside of

00:20:59.460 government. You know, I've started contacting and talking to my Senate colleagues about, you know,

00:21:05.680 Bobby's confirmation. I think most have a very open mind. I think they've got questions based

00:21:10.860 on the lies being told about Bobby. I think many, hopefully most, enough, will have the same

00:21:18.100 reaction that i've had to bobby candy once i met him found first of all he's a really good person

00:21:23.140 and he's really smart and what he's telling us is the truth i mean he's the one that

00:21:29.080 got you know really proved that fauci was lying to us when he said oh we got all kinds of studies

00:21:33.700 showing that you know the childhood vaccines have been tested against the true placebo no we

00:21:37.980 not one so if fauci's willing to lie to us about that

00:21:43.860 the biodistribution of the injection throughout the body pfizer knew that

00:21:49.480 that they had a biodistribution study that japanese regulars uncovered with the lipid

00:21:55.980 nanoparticle by the way the lipid nanoparticle is designed to permeate difficult permeate

00:22:00.940 barriers like the blood brain barrier like yeah yeah obviously they knew and but they're oh it's

00:22:05.780 going to stay right in the arm it's going to you know do its work and then dissolve well it's not

00:22:10.140 real mRNA it's modified it's modified to not dissolve and so now we know it circulates through

00:22:15.840 the body the only studies so far you know length of time is at least two months and possibly more

00:22:21.740 and again that's circling through the body concentrating things like the ovaries you know

00:22:25.960 other organs turning those organs into a little manufacturing site for something that's toxic to

00:22:30.640 the body so when you're doing that and you express the spike protein you know whether it's the heart

00:22:36.120 Then the body attacks that.

00:22:38.400 That's called inflammation.

00:22:39.360 That's called myocarditis.

00:22:40.660 If it's in your nerve cells, all the neurological symptoms we're seeing.

00:22:44.640 We see DNA contamination could be causing some of these turbo cancers.

00:22:50.620 Again, I'm not a doctor, not a medical expert, but the mechanism seems pretty straightforward 0.71

00:22:55.280 in terms of exercising caution and really watching your safety surveillance systems,

00:23:01.980 which they didn't do.

00:23:03.260 They covered them up.

00:23:04.140 They're still covering them up. 0.82

00:23:06.120 ridiculous ridiculous i i think a general rule for for any new drug particularly something that's 0.83

00:23:14.760 injected but anything you're putting in your body is like watch right if it just comes out 0.96

00:23:20.420 immediately they can't possibly have done long-term studies there hasn't been enough time

00:23:25.960 period like it was at least be that careful right so you know there's so there's a different side

00:23:33.000 the coin here okay part of the problem you have in drug manufacturers it takes like a dozen 10

00:23:39.600 you know 13 years to approve a drug costs a billion dollars okay so that's a lot of money

00:23:45.240 to develop a drug uh that's why i championed right to try so let individuals know but again

00:23:51.900 that's why you need an honest broker you need an agency that has high integrity okay do some

00:23:58.060 initial safety safety studies you know don't necessarily have to prove efficacy before

00:24:02.960 something that looks pretty promising uh could be made available on a right try basis let people

00:24:09.020 make the decision but boy yeah you have to monitor that i mean anybody taking something on the right

00:24:15.020 to try has got to be filling out and their doctors have to be filling out you know reports to to the

00:24:20.900 fda so you know the track track your disease you know track any kind of reaction you might have to

00:24:25.840 that drug. Again, in the information age, this shouldn't be that hard. And by the way, it wasn't.

00:24:31.820 You had the V-Safe system. Pretty darn good idea, quite honestly, if it would have been designed

00:24:36.140 properly and if they wouldn't have buried the results. But the V-Safe system was a voluntary

00:24:41.220 app that 10 million Americans signed up for. And it reported any kind of adverse events. Now,

00:24:48.660 it was very limited. They talked about any kind of medical intervention, if you had to seek

00:24:53.220 medical care for an adverse event, or if you couldn't carry on with daily life, had to miss

00:24:57.560 work, had to miss school, okay? And so 25% of the people that signed up for VSake missed work.

00:25:06.900 I mean, they had an adverse event that was strong enough that something happened in their life. I

00:25:11.640 mean, they missed school, they missed work, they couldn't carry on their normal daily life.

00:25:15.240 Almost 8%, I think it was 7.8% sought medical care. And Aaron Seary had to sue for the results

00:25:22.800 to that V-safe. Again, they set this up. I mean, you had VAERS, which was screaming at them. You

00:25:27.800 set up V-safe specifically for the COVID injection, and then they buried the results.

00:25:34.900 Aaron Seary had to sue them to reveal to the public what the V-safe system was screaming at

00:25:41.080 them. Again, 25% of people that took the shot, 25% of 10 million people, two and a half million

00:25:47.360 people basically had a severe enough adverse event that they missed school or work and eight percent

00:25:54.720 almost eight percent had to seek medical care and our government buried that our government also

00:25:59.840 buried by the way i just have my most recent letter to the the agencies they buried they knew

00:26:05.860 about myocarditis in youth very early in 2021 and rather than publish that information or warn the

00:26:12.080 public, they produced a 17-page document of talking points to talk around it. Again, I think

00:26:20.300 Aaron and Siri got that from FOIA, but those 17 pages are completely redacted. So I just sent an

00:26:25.040 oversight letter demanding to see those pages, because now we know it exists, unredacted,

00:26:30.440 because Congress is not subject to those redactions. But at the same time, we've been

00:26:34.600 battling for, I think, over three years, trying to get Fauci's emails, the final, I think, 50 pages

00:26:41.940 of Fauci's emails unredacted. I've been trying to get that for 30, for three years.

00:26:48.520 That's wild. Okay. So then what, can you describe exactly what it is you do? You said the Senate

00:26:54.920 Oversight Committee, you head that? Yeah. So I was chairman for six years of the,

00:27:00.140 it's the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. So the governmental

00:27:02.980 affairs prior to 9-11 was strictly the Senate. I timed out of that chairmanship. Now I'm ranking

00:27:10.460 member of the permanent subcommittee investigations it's literally the most powerful investigatory

00:27:16.300 body u.s senate i have stronger subpoena power as chairman of this committee than i had as chairman

00:27:21.240 of the full committee okay so that that again i'm also on finance committee i'm also on budget

00:27:26.700 committee so as u.s senator you're involved in all kinds of different committees but as it relates to

00:27:31.280 this uh i've got i've got some real ability now to investigate and demand answers and demand

00:27:37.840 demand documents. Now, the question is, are they going to be honest with you and actually turn

00:27:41.200 over the documents? You never, again, I'm not in the agencies. I have suggested that President

00:27:46.800 Trump is going to need to appoint like a Secretary of Information Extraction. 0.91

00:27:52.660 That's ridiculous.

00:27:54.340 Somebody to get the deep state to, you know, be honest and provide these documents. You know, 0.83

00:27:59.100 President Trump, switching subjects here, President Trump has said he's going to release

00:28:04.040 the JFK assassination documents.

00:28:07.980 Does anybody really think the CIA or whoever the powers would be,

00:28:11.320 the intel community, is actually going to give them all up?

00:28:15.040 I have my doubts.

00:28:19.440 That's insane.

00:28:20.860 By the way, our founders didn't trust government.

00:28:24.140 But that's why they put in place systems of checks and balances

00:28:27.080 so that we would be kind of fighting between the branches

00:28:30.560 so that no branch would get so powerful as it would impact our freedom.

00:28:35.100 Well, those constitutional constraints were out of the window many, many decades ago.

00:28:39.660 And now as government grows, our freedoms are definitely being trampled on, as you well know.

00:28:44.280 Not only in America, but look at what happened in Canada.

00:28:48.120 Yeah.

00:28:48.820 The Freedom Convoy, you know, those brave truckers.

00:28:51.180 I mean, what Pierre Trudeau did there, what was happening in Australia?

00:28:54.240 I mean, this is a global phenomenon.

00:28:55.600 yeah it's it's an insane time hopefully things are trending in the right direction

00:29:03.000 did the results from the last election fill you with hope do you think he's actually going to be

00:29:08.900 able to do what he says he's going to do i know he wants to right well again what gives me hope is

00:29:14.760 is literally the the coalition that he and bobby kennedy helped assemble um and and what that

00:29:23.840 demonstrates but i mean you take a look at whether it's bobby kennedy tulsi gabbard elon musk who i

00:29:28.300 don't think is particularly politically active probably more of the left in general um that's

00:29:34.500 that's what we need in this country we need people who love this country understand how rare and

00:29:39.280 precious it truly is and how it's it's our duty to make sure we save and preserve it for future

00:29:45.280 generations that wasn't going that wasn't happening our country was going down the tubes

00:29:49.600 under radical leftist government, which is what the Obama and the Biden administration was.

00:29:56.820 So this is, you know, the ship of state is big, it's unwieldy, it's difficult to turn around.

00:30:01.760 What we've done is we've changed directions.

00:30:04.740 We're charting a new course, but we need to stay in that direction.

00:30:07.280 We can't be ping-ponging back and forth between radical leftism and what I would consider just a common-sense approach

00:30:12.660 to respecting people's freedoms, understanding what the federal government is really designed to do.

00:30:18.560 It's not here to solve all our problems.

00:30:21.120 It's here to guarantee our freedom.

00:30:24.020 Now, there are other, you know, commerce, you have to set the rules for the road.

00:30:27.000 Again, I think it's a very legitimate activity of government to establish some high-integrity arbiters of science, you know, of drug safety, food safety.

00:30:38.440 That's a valuable role.

00:30:40.440 But we don't need these agencies that are just massive, you know, cranking out all these regulations that are crushing freedom.

00:30:46.940 We need honest brokers.

00:30:48.560 yeah agreed so you mentioned that um doge wasn't going to be a government institution i didn't know

00:30:56.800 that i thought that he was building something new that was within the government doge is supposed

00:31:00.880 to be an external organization that just right how is it going to have any control over anything

00:31:06.620 well it's the uh you know the arena of ideas right if it comes up with good ideas and by the way we

00:31:14.100 can't do anything here in washington you can jam some stuff through but it's not going to last if

00:31:18.360 he doesn't have the backing of the public. So you mentioned about my events. I mean,

00:31:22.620 my events have always been designed. I've never proposed a piece of legislation after my events.

00:31:27.640 My events have all been about exposing the truth, educating the public, opening up people's eyes.

00:31:34.980 Yeah. And that's what it's going to take. You know, the beauty of what we found during COVID

00:31:37.860 is once somebody's eyes have been opened to what is happening, to the capture, to the corruption,

00:31:44.620 to the harm being caused by big government to individuals,

00:31:49.140 they're not going to close their eyes.

00:31:51.460 They just won't.

00:31:53.040 So I think, I haven't really talked in detail to Bobby

00:31:57.640 because he's been so darn busy,

00:31:58.820 but I would love to really sit down and talk to him

00:32:01.960 about prized at how welcomed he was to our side of the aisle.

00:32:09.760 In that event, he said, I used to be a supervillain to him.

00:32:14.620 Again, you listen to the news like most Americans do.

00:32:17.880 And, you know, guys like me are caricatured.

00:32:19.760 You know, we are marginalized, demonized, we're villainizers, okay?

00:32:24.540 So once Bobby actually met me and saw what I was trying to do and, you know, he doesn't think I'm a supervillain anymore.

00:32:32.100 So that's powerful.

00:32:34.340 And, again, Bobby Kennedy, that's right, other Democrats have said this.

00:32:37.440 I didn't leave the party.

00:32:38.420 The party left me.

00:32:39.360 so those are generally the most valued partners into what I would consider the conservative

00:32:45.520 movement but yeah that's what gives me hope is that once people understand what's happened

00:32:54.960 you know they'll be dedicated to to keep moving the right direction and the more that open their

00:33:00.460 eyes the the stronger our coalition builds and the more elections we can win so we can keep this

00:33:06.080 keep our nation on the right path I think it surprised me too and my dad you know like growing

00:33:13.380 up I lived in downtown Toronto which is very liberal and was always a liberal person I went

00:33:18.920 to an art school and my parents were liberals too and it wasn't until things started to go

00:33:24.980 sideways at the university dad kind of saw that you know we weren't we were never this far left

00:33:29.780 that you see popping up. It was like sane liberals. Right. And I've been trying to explain.

00:33:36.700 Yeah. I've been trying to explain to my friends who are still, they're still in Canada. They're

00:33:40.100 still liberals that what we used to believe isn't what the liberal party believes anymore.

00:33:45.280 It's completely different, you know? And it, I think it has surprised me that the Republican

00:33:50.540 party has been so welcoming to people that were previously Democrats. Do you think it's possible

00:34:00.860 that the Republican party has gone? And I don't want to say more left, but I don't think, you know,

00:34:07.780 I don't think RFK juniors beliefs, for instance, have changed very much in the last 30 years,

00:34:13.560 but now those beliefs are held by members of the Republican party. So do you think everything

00:34:19.900 shifted a little bit left? What are you seeing? I assume you've been a lifelong Republican. Have

00:34:24.800 you? I'm still not a Republican. I'm more Tea Party. I'm not of this world. I was never involved

00:34:30.940 in politics. During the Tea Party movement, I stepped forward because we're mortgaging our

00:34:35.980 kids' future. And I'm fighting for freedom. Fair enough. But you got to join a party. I'm not

00:34:43.840 all that enamored with a lot of people in the Republican Party. So I'm part of that coalition.

00:34:49.900 Um, but what we have seen is realignment of politics.

00:34:53.600 I mean, I think in the past, you know, Republicans definitely represented those big corporate

00:34:58.620 interests and, you know, really focused on, you know, the, the, the working men and women

00:35:07.580 of this country.

00:35:08.100 I mean, the little people, the people that needed help.

00:35:11.280 Um, but the fact of the matter is, you know, we're all very compassionate in America.

00:35:16.620 We all want to help people who can't help themselves or help people help themselves.

00:35:21.140 And I think what Donald Trump has done is literally complete that complete realignment.

00:35:25.820 Now it's Democrats who are they've always been beholden to the trial lawyers, which is a enormous lobby and corporate interest.

00:35:34.200 And now they're the ones that are populated with all these billionaires that are funding all this crazy radical leftism.

00:35:40.060 And Republicans really I mean, we do represent normal, hardworking men and women.

00:35:45.960 the people that build this country, that keep it operating. I'd like to think we always did,

00:35:51.380 maybe not in as intelligent a way as we should. I mean, you got to support business because

00:35:56.960 businesses are the ones that create products and services and hire people, create good-paying jobs,

00:36:01.400 okay? That's something that I think the Democrats never really got is don't rip into businesses,

00:36:07.100 okay? Try and support businesses. Try and make it easy for them to build themselves and create

00:36:12.440 great products and services and employ people don't make that harder try and make it easier

00:36:16.700 within the constraints of you know antitrust don't don't let monopolies grow you know don't

00:36:24.120 let them pollute our environment don't don't let them get away with poisoning ourselves with food

00:36:28.640 and drugs so i i think republicans have probably become more populous than we were in the past but

00:36:35.920 i think our hearts were always there and again i think what gives me hope is i think most americans

00:36:41.740 agree on the big issues. That's why I say we're a horrible divided nation, but there's no reason

00:36:46.900 for us to be divided. We're not an absolutely divided people. On the major goals in life,

00:36:52.640 safety, security, having a job, having enough opportunities so you can provide for yourself

00:36:58.120 and your family, your retirement, everybody agrees on that. So, okay, I understand that

00:37:03.300 there's differences. How do you achieve that? But we're all focusing on that same goal. So why are

00:37:07.440 so divided well i mean let me be partisan it's because the left is purposely dividing us right

00:37:14.240 that's what identity politics is about that's what critical race theory is about yeah i think so much

00:37:19.060 the transgender is listen again we're compassion people anybody with true gender dysphoria we have

00:37:24.380 all kinds of compassion for but telling little boys they need girls when they're little kids 0.99

00:37:30.240 you know mutilating their bodies without their parent approval i mean i mean that is by the way

00:37:37.640 that was i think thoroughly rejected in this election but i can't really say really because

00:37:43.860 almost half of americans voted for the party that is pushing that so it's listen we still

00:37:49.140 have great concerns i mean we're that close it shouldn't be that close no between common sense

00:37:56.840 and conservative principles and love of freedom versus the absolute insanity of radical leftism,

00:38:03.200 it shouldn't be close, but it is globally. Yeah, yeah. Cut out for us.

00:38:10.880 That's for sure. And I think it'd be interesting to see a study between people who voted Democrat

00:38:18.380 and people who still trust mainstream media like CNN and these news websites, because I assume

00:38:25.620 anybody who voted for Kamala or they're getting their news from from CNN or mainstream media

00:38:31.540 otherwise I don't see how it's possible like they have to believe the caricatures of people

00:38:37.380 that they're painting well but it's not just media remember our edge the control by the left

00:38:42.300 as your dad found out right yeah that was the master stroke of the left they took over our

00:38:46.360 universities 60s and so they you know it's all radical left deans and professors and they've

00:38:51.860 been teaching our children, indoctrinating them now for decades. And so it's all coming to

00:38:56.280 fruition. Again, that's why their eyes have been closed to reality, because they've been

00:39:01.560 indoctrinated to radical leftism. That's the eye-opening process. But again, the truth has

00:39:08.460 its own power. And once your eyes are open, oh, this isn't as I thought it was. We got those

00:39:16.160 people on our side for life. Okay. Well, I think that's a good idea about Doge then

00:39:22.680 and your round tables. Like even when we did the recent round table on nutrition, I was like

00:39:27.860 the only way, you know, you're not going to change people's opinions by pushing through bills.

00:39:31.740 You have to educate them. They have to know what's going on. They have to know that certain

00:39:35.900 foods aren't good or that the food pyramid wasn't designed without corruption. If people knew these

00:39:41.600 things and they'd automatically change. Like I assume people, I'm not sure, but I assume people

00:39:47.200 didn't really stop smoking cigarettes until everybody knew that long-term cigarette smoking

00:39:51.860 could cause lung disease. And then you don't really want to do that long-term, right? It wasn't

00:39:56.640 Congress pushing it through or the Senate pushing anything through that changed people's minds. It

00:40:01.640 was education. Right. No, in my own family, my parents smoked. And when we, I remember,

00:40:08.180 I remember listening to the news program when I was probably like six, seven years, this early 60s.

00:40:12.900 So I'm six, seven, eight years old.

00:40:14.320 And I heard that cigarette smoking may cause cancer.

00:40:18.380 You cannot believe how we badgered our parents for years until they finally quit.

00:40:23.920 You know, it's like, that scared the you know what out of me.

00:40:26.680 Yeah.

00:40:27.180 It's people have to do it voluntarily.

00:40:30.820 I mean, again, you don't want the long arm of government forcing you to actually, that's freedom robbing.

00:40:37.200 but give people the information government again i don't want them to be arbiter of the truth

00:40:41.920 but you know we do need and maybe we need institutions outside of government uh that

00:40:48.360 can be you know high integrity in terms of no this this science is reproducible you know i believe

00:40:55.340 this is true studies on drugs that kind of stuff they don't have to produce their data

00:41:02.080 so the issue of study gets peer-reviewed but the peer reviewers don't even get to see their own

00:41:07.620 the data of the study that they're reviewing oh man i mean to me that's a total corruption

00:41:13.000 i mean that's my understanding maybe i'm wrong but that's my understanding of it

00:41:18.260 yeah yeah just the reason i'm hedging my bets is it's so unbelievable but i think that's actually

00:41:25.620 true because because i know we we've i've helped people try and get to the data of these studies

00:41:30.440 is being published. So, yeah, yeah. I think I've heard that as well. You said that there might

00:41:36.760 need to be institutions outside of the government, but I feel like that's what people used to think

00:41:41.240 the news was, you know, the news was supposed to uncover these kinds of things and tell you the

00:41:45.900 truth. And so we're missing, you know, old school news. I don't know when it switched. I know I

00:41:52.380 certainly didn't trust it in 2016 in Canada. So it probably fell before that, but I don't even know

00:41:59.040 when the news has been trustworthy? Well, I think, you know, again, when I'm growing up in the 60s,

00:42:04.600 this is when the rat was taking over the universe system. So they started indoctrinating. They're

00:42:09.540 not journalists anymore. They're advocates for the left. But that takes time. I mean, journalism

00:42:13.520 hadn't used to have integrity, even though Walter Cronkite probably always voted Democrat.

00:42:18.660 You know, they realized that, you know, I can't let that my bias on my reporting or they're going

00:42:24.480 to fire me you know that's now American public wants unbiased news but slowly but surely the

00:42:31.540 leftism started creeping into the news until it completely consumed it when with the election

00:42:36.900 of Donald Trump that's where all pretense of being unbiased came with Donald Trump bad man

00:42:42.000 you know orange man bad we need to destroy him this is our job as journalists we have to destroy

00:42:47.800 this man and that's you know I thought it was interesting when Bobby started his presidential

00:42:52.240 campaign, one of the statements he made was this would be the first presidential election

00:42:55.680 decided by podcasts. Now, I realized that that was probably the only way he could ever win

00:43:01.840 is because he was completely being boycotted by the mainstream media. He was only being allowed

00:43:08.320 on conservative outlets. And his main, you know, method of communicating his ideas was through

00:43:14.980 podcasts. But again, third party candidates, I mean, you know, love the guy, but never really

00:43:20.780 thought that had much of a chance. But in the end, he was right. Because I think what really

00:43:25.560 put it over the top for Trump was he went on Joe Rogan. He went on these things. And without the

00:43:32.680 filter of the mainstream media, people saw what I've seen with Donald Trump. I mean, if you spend

00:43:36.700 time with him, I've frequently said, you cannot not like him. Now, there may be things that just

00:43:40.800 aggravate you about the guy that you don't like, but he's charismatic, he's engaging, he's smart.

00:43:48.540 you cannot not like him and that's what the american public saw unfiltered in a three-hour

00:43:55.660 conversation with joe rogan and all these other podcasts so in the end i think bobby was probably

00:44:00.160 right it could have been that might have been determinative for this election you know all of

00:44:03.480 a sudden it was cool yeah if you're if you're a young man particularly after you know his reaction

00:44:08.400 to the assassination attempt that even zuckerberg say that's the most bad thing he's ever seen right

00:44:13.320 all of a sudden for young men they proudly wear make america great hat yeah that was a seat in

00:44:22.160 just a couple months it was really remarkable to see this it was it was i had an interesting

00:44:28.620 experience i went to austin this was right after the uh first assassination attempt which we were

00:44:34.860 shocked especially from trump's response because it was so brave right you can't fake that kind of

00:44:39.480 response and so we were talking to our uber driver about it he goes yeah you know someone must have

00:44:44.780 been behind it we're like yeah someone was probably behind it but we were on like different kind of

00:44:49.480 sides of the of whatever conspiracy you want to call that um and he thought it was faked by the

00:44:56.060 republican party because trump was so brave after that nobody could have done that yeah and we were

00:45:02.480 like oh wow that's what you think like that's what's going around no they're again they're

00:45:09.000 They were trying to marginalize that reaction.

00:45:11.260 That can't be real.

00:45:12.400 I mean, nobody could be that badass.

00:45:14.040 Nobody could be that brave.

00:45:15.400 This had to be a whole setup with an unbelievable, you know, phenomenal marksman.

00:45:22.200 Yeah.

00:45:22.920 And time it just right, so he turns his head.

00:45:25.500 And by the way, that was my chart.

00:45:28.160 Was it?

00:45:29.240 It was, yeah.

00:45:30.020 I gave that to him on a plane flight up to the Green Bay Rally in April.

00:45:34.320 Wow.

00:45:34.860 Kind of fun to be in that little smidgen of history.

00:45:38.060 Oh, man.

00:45:39.000 well good job on the chart life-saving yeah that's for sure life-saving chart

00:45:46.240 wild wild okay well do you have any concerns of like oh my gosh actually you're probably i mean

00:45:55.620 you're more aware of this than me what's going on in the news about whatever's happening in

00:46:01.940 ukraine recently do you have any knowledge about that is any of that true biden allowing more

00:46:06.880 long-term missiles do you know anything about that yes is that real yes it's real and there's

00:46:13.300 no there's no there's no strategic purpose to it from i can see i mean they're they're launching

00:46:18.100 these things at russian positions around the area within russia that uh ukraine made a push into

00:46:25.300 um so it's not going to change the tide of the war um it is provocative it's you know it's a

00:46:32.660 dangerous escalation. So Jeffrey Sachs, he's a person of the left, right? He gives the most

00:46:39.480 accurate and salient explanation of how we walked our way into

00:46:44.400 threatening World War III, going back to 1991. I'm assuming he is starting out with the basic

00:46:53.300 agreement between James Baker and Mikhail Gorbachev that basically said, we're not going to

00:46:57.840 push NATO one inch to the east. And we've come, Bobby talks about this all the time, we've come

00:47:02.740 hundreds of miles. And then, even though, you know, okay, Putin basically accepted that, right?

00:47:08.420 Said, but Ukraine, that's a red line. You do not threaten putting, and we kept, kept pushing him.

00:47:14.680 We spent, I think, $5 billion, what the reports are, you know, McCain and Victoria Nuland fomenting

00:47:19.900 the revolution of dignity, which sounds good. I mean, freedom-loving Ukrainians, yeah, let them,

00:47:24.120 let him escape Soviet domination and come toward the West. Nobody ever told me as a member of the

00:47:32.500 Senate Foreign Relations Committee, the European chairman of the European subcommittee, that

00:47:36.000 Ukraine was a really divided country. It might be 50-50. Half of them really would rather be

00:47:43.120 governed by Russia. The other half wants to go. Nobody explained that to me as I'm making

00:47:47.400 codels there and trying to support the freedom-loving people of Ukraine. Then you push it

00:47:53.180 further and threaten nato by the way i think you you probably could have prevented that war just by

00:47:59.420 telling uh putin okay okay don't invade we're not going to offer ukraine nato membership that would

00:48:08.600 have been a good bargain right yeah they didn't do that um so in the end putin invaded now it's

00:48:15.640 just a bloody state and okay you can say a lot of people you know blow it off say ah he'll never use 0.50

00:48:21.740 nuclear weapons i will tell one i'll tell you one thing putin will not lose this war yeah he's in

00:48:27.200 the war is existential to putin okay he will not lose this war and he does have nuclear weapons so

00:48:33.500 let's not press him uh the only way this war ends is in a negotiated settlement every day that goes

00:48:40.440 by the settlement gets worse and worse and worse because more ukrainians die more russian conscripts

00:48:46.620 die i take no joy in that and more of ukraine gets destroyed so they send these attack comes

00:48:51.200 into ukraine and what's russia's response a massive strike at ukraine's infrastructure

00:48:57.020 shutting down the electrical grid so that's going to have to be repaired we're just we're just

00:49:03.400 increasing the destruction of ukraine so that again every day that goes by whatever settlement 0.66

00:49:09.520 we're going to get is going to be worse and worse and worse and of course don't want to settle

00:49:13.400 because can't let putin win well he's not going to lose and in the meantime ukraine just keeps

00:49:19.060 losing more and more and more and more makes no sense it's insane yeah i just don't understand

00:49:27.900 why it was done so close to you know a change in government like why why did it just happen

00:49:35.680 it seems rather dramatic to happen right before there's a huge shift in government

00:49:39.780 i don't know is biden literally trying to sabotage the the trump administration oh my gosh i have no

00:49:45.720 I have no idea. I can't explain the action of these radical leftists, people like Biden and

00:49:51.220 Harris and Obama. It makes no sense to me. It's not actions taken for the benefit of America and

00:49:58.120 the American people. Yeah, that's for sure. That's for sure. Okay, well, is there anything else you'd

00:50:05.360 like to tell people about? I think you've answered all my questions, but is there anything people

00:50:09.440 should be aware of. But we haven't talked, spoken a whole lot about, you know, how we met is really

00:50:15.900 the issue of chronic health and what we need to do to be healthier. How did you, how did you get

00:50:22.300 interested in that? There's so, I was so shocked to ever be in a position where I was in Washington

00:50:27.400 talking about diet. I was just like, that's never, you know, that is never going to happen.

00:50:32.620 So how did you get interested in that? It wasn't cool when Senator Crapo showed up and he was able

00:50:38.280 tell his story like you were able to tell yours yeah it's completely unscripted yes definitely

00:50:43.840 that came about because of podcasts so i somebody sent me or i saw tucker podcast with casey and

00:50:52.180 callie means yeah and it resonated with me i mean casey has got dr means has got such a great

00:50:57.760 way of explaining mitochondrial health our metabolism uh you know how we get all of our

00:51:04.800 energy from the sun, we convert that into food, you know, planted animal food, and then it's our

00:51:08.940 body's chore to break down that food and turn it into energy efficiently so we can heal our body.

00:51:13.920 So again, she does a great job of just explaining that in layman's terms. So,

00:51:17.600 you know, I like that. I called up her contact, started talking to her, and I said, well, this

00:51:22.940 is the kind of information, because I remember Tucky said, you're going to change the world.

00:51:26.640 And I don't disagree with that, okay? So I wanted to highlight that. You know, I kind of learned

00:51:31.480 that you know got the formula by the way i think my public events are far more effective than

00:51:36.120 hearings because in hearings it's just members of congress you know arguing and you know grand

00:51:42.000 saying that kind of stuff my events you know i didn't talk much right i gave i gave an opening

00:51:47.600 statement and then i i had a little discipline i told all you guys get 600 words keep it to that

00:51:52.700 and then yeah um but i let the panelists talk and i don't know have you tracked how many views

00:52:01.560 your presentation or clips of your presentation have had oh i'm a lot the oh my gosh one of the

00:52:08.160 clips i put out and it was kind of an overview that's in the millions i think my speech is

00:52:12.720 something like 300 000 and then dad's is similar you know it was good and then the clips did very

00:52:17.660 well you know those round tables are very popular multiply that times i think we had like close to

00:52:23.160 two dozen presenters each with an important thing to say i still think again yours was fabulous

00:52:30.360 dr chris palmer his his one statement where he said whoever they are they don't want to discover

00:52:36.660 the root cause yeah yeah i mean that that is the that is the root cause right there

00:52:42.120 we can't ask the questions you know bobby kennedy has been vilified for just saying what what's

00:52:49.620 causing autism i mean could it be the fact we've gone from three to 85 doses and we're giving him

00:52:56.540 multiple doses i mean could that be i mean could it be cdo i mean i don't know i don't know what

00:53:01.860 i will say is i want to be a very honest arbiter of how this transpires i mean i i know a lot of

00:53:09.220 people in that panel have very strong opinions that it's this or that or whatever. I don't expect

00:53:15.500 you really listening to my opening statement. My final paragraph was basically making the statement

00:53:20.540 that I'm amazed. It's a marvel how much mankind has learned at a accelerating pace. We know so

00:53:28.280 much, but what we don't know vastly exceeds what we do. That's for sure. So we have to have that

00:53:35.240 humility so again i don't want to i don't want to blow up the ag culture industry i don't want to

00:53:40.080 throw the baby out with the bath water here i mean if there are safe pesticides that help us

00:53:44.780 feed the world feed ourselves i don't have a problem with that but you know we ought to ask

00:53:49.500 because i think we've just been lied to that okay gmo stuff isn't fine well i don't know

00:53:54.800 show me the uncorrupted science yeah by by people totally outside the industry as opposed to what's

00:54:02.820 been funded by the corporate interests. I mean, show me the truth. And that's going to take a while

00:54:07.380 for us to really develop that or to analyze it and kind of come to those conclusions. But again,

00:54:12.840 I know there are people going to be lining up to do everything they can to destroy Bobby and his

00:54:19.240 efforts and keep him from being HHS secretary. I mean, I don't know, you probably don't know this,

00:54:23.920 But within two weeks, over 200 ag cultural interests, you know, groups, wrote a letter to the chairman and ranking member of the House and the Senate Ag Committee.

00:54:36.100 I immediately got a copy.

00:54:37.700 They didn't mention me.

00:54:38.500 They didn't mention our panel, but it was definitely directed at what we were exploring and just, you know, saying we can't let this go on because we're going to destroy our ag culture industry.

00:54:50.480 We're going to not be able to produce food.

00:54:52.420 And, again, is it maybe a little over the top?

00:54:55.860 I think they have legitimate concerns that I think we need to address.

00:54:58.740 We need to delay those concerns.

00:55:01.300 And, again, we just, you know, can't come in here gangbusters and say, okay, we got all the information.

00:55:05.660 We know what the truth is.

00:55:06.760 This is what we're going to do.

00:55:08.660 The thing we need to do is address the fundamentals.

00:55:10.900 Okay, how do we uncorrupt science?

00:55:14.240 You know, how do we set up a decent adversarial system?

00:55:17.580 How do we get rid of the liability for vaccines, which is causing – that's why this is –

00:55:22.140 That's why we have 85 doses.

00:55:23.520 There's no liability.

00:55:24.360 This is a money-making machine for pharmaceutical companies with no liability.

00:55:30.300 By the way, that's a major cost, which we have to understand if we want life-saving new drugs.

00:55:35.560 We can't be bankrupting companies, sue them all the time either.

00:55:38.660 So this is a delicate balance.

00:55:40.420 There's nothing easy about this.

00:55:42.240 There is always ultimate truth, but it's difficult for us to discern it.

00:55:48.900 So, again, we need to approach this with a real humility and a genuineness of purpose of what we're trying to, again, we're just, we're trying to understand what is causing autism.

00:56:00.800 What a horrible thing to have happen to a family, and it's happening to more families almost at an exponential rate.

00:56:07.800 What about chronic illness?

00:56:09.180 Wouldn't our country or world be so much better if we could solve that?

00:56:13.500 Well, in order to solve it, we have to ask the questions, and we haven't been allowed to ask the questions.

00:56:18.900 So, again, that's that's that's my main point is allow us to ask the questions.

00:56:23.480 Don't don't vilify, don't destroy the people that just have the honesty like Bobby Kennedy.

00:56:29.820 I mean, he didn't seek this notoriety on childhood vaccines.

00:56:34.020 It was thrust on him when given the science, he just couldn't close his eyes and understand that, you know, there are people's livelihoods at stake, you know, in food processing, in agriculture.

00:56:45.020 I mean, yeah, yeah, for sure.

00:56:46.420 We have to understand as well.

00:56:47.360 So we have to understand the other people's perspective and just try and move forward as honestly as we possibly can.

00:56:54.840 And I think a lot of the fear of having RFK Jr. come in is, you know, this is what I hear from the left, too, is he's going to cancel vaccines.

00:57:04.760 Like, we're not going to have vaccines anymore.

00:57:07.000 They don't understand that what he's looking for is transparency and no corruption.

00:57:12.560 Right. Like, it's reasonable.

00:57:14.020 Even I had a I had a terrible experience with antidepressants.

00:57:17.200 it was very difficult to come off of them without withdrawal. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be

00:57:21.980 available, but people should know about the side effects. You know, that's about it. Like I'm all

00:57:28.480 for having the freedom to eat whatever you want. As long as people know and have signs they can

00:57:33.500 trust, you know, what, what are the side effects? What are the risks for you? Like smoke cigarettes

00:57:39.200 if you want to smoke cigarettes, but at least you know what might happen, right? And that is so

00:57:45.060 reasonable. It's so reasonable. I can't believe anybody has an issue with it.

00:57:48.820 It's freedom and government's role in guaranteeing that freedom is informed consent.

00:57:55.040 Yeah. And that government ought to be here to be the arbiter in terms of, okay, you produce this,

00:58:00.820 you need to do certain studies, they need to be honest, and then you have to inform the consumer.

00:58:06.060 One of the famous moments, and I think this was one of my COVID events, is Dr. Renata Moon

00:58:12.080 showed the insert for the vaccine it's this big piece of paper it says intentionally left blank

00:58:19.000 that they didn't provide any of the information that the doctors would need to provide informed

00:58:25.860 consent to their patients they just rammed it down and even worse mandated it to the members

00:58:32.340 of our military to hospital workers to so many no it's it's just really i mean what what

00:58:38.640 what they they did to us into society is unbelievable but even maybe more unbelievable

00:58:47.020 but depressing is how many people accepted it kind of like sheep to the slaughter um

00:58:53.960 that's if people were informed uh and again the good news is we do have a free press you know we

00:59:01.920 have podcasts now we've got alternate media you can get the truth it's getting more and more

00:59:07.340 difficult to discern the truth because it's just not three networks with journalists who they may

00:59:12.760 be biased but they pretty well keep the bias out and they're pretty fair and balanced okay but

00:59:16.500 that's that that's relegated the 60s maybe into the 70s uh kind of got went by the wayside so

00:59:23.740 again i i just applaud you for uh you know coming to my my event telling your story having a podcast

00:59:30.320 like this i certainly appreciate being part of it and happy to come back on sometime else when i've

00:59:36.380 got more to say. Yeah, that sounds great. Thanks for all the updates. It was very informative.

00:59:40.960 Good luck with everything. And I guess we will, well, we'll see what happens in January.

00:59:47.260 Say, say, how do you dad for me? I will. Thanks again for coming on. Oh, and before you go,

00:59:52.680 if people want to find you online or find out more about you, where should they go?

00:59:57.820 We're easy to find it. You know, I really ought to memorize this. I think it's a,

01:00:00.720 at send Ron Johnson. I have no idea. You know what? I'll link everything.

01:00:05.240 I've got an X account. I've got pretty easy to find. Perfect. Perfect. I'll link everything.

01:00:11.920 Thank you again. Take care. Bye.

The Mikhaila Peterson Podcast - November 22, 2024

Senator Ron Johnson on Corruption, Elon’s DOGE, RFK Jr. and Trump Presidency ｜ EP 213

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