The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - November 14, 2024


Canadian Left flees from X to hide from all the free speech


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In the wake of the election results, the left has decided to leave social media platforms like Twitter and other platforms that allow them to freely express their views. I discuss why this is a good thing, and how it will affect the future of social media.

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00:00:00.720 At least to me, this is one of the funniest stories of the week.
00:00:05.200 So in the aftermath of Kamala Harris losing the U.S. presidential election to Donald Trump,
00:00:10.400 the left, both in the U.S. as well as around the world,
00:00:14.500 has just started declaring that they're leaving Twitter X.
00:00:18.260 There's too much free speech around here, so we're leaving.
00:00:21.660 Guys, do you realize that you are already becoming culturally irrelevant?
00:00:26.540 I invite you to leave to make sure that nobody cares what you guys have to say.
00:00:32.600 Remember when the right started creating alternative social media platforms?
00:00:37.260 That was done almost out of an involuntary need.
00:00:41.200 You had a lot of conservatives, a lot of people on the right who were being kicked off of Twitter
00:00:46.000 back when there was a lot of censorship on it, and because they weren't allowed back on,
00:00:50.300 you couldn't just make a new account, you'd just get auto-banned if they found out it is you.
00:00:53.480 You had to go join places like Parler and other outlets, and now what we have is the left,
00:01:00.280 because there is the ability to speak freely, moving over to BlueSky, a platform with nobody using it.
00:01:08.080 Yes, apparently, according to their Wikipedia page, they have 15.2 million registered users.
00:01:14.600 Cool. I'm pretty sure Parler had way more than that at one point.
00:01:18.200 It didn't matter, because nobody really wanted to be there.
00:01:21.060 The thing with social media is it lacks any value if you can't, in theory, connect with everyone on it.
00:01:28.580 That's why X works. That's why Facebook works. That's why other social media sites work.
00:01:33.480 If you want to have a micro social media network, that's called a forum.
00:01:38.040 We've had them since the 90s.
00:01:39.740 You can go and join your Antifa of Portland forum and talk to the people around your local area,
00:01:45.100 but you're not going to be able to start a new social media company out of nothing,
00:01:50.080 no necessity for it to exist, and be able to turn it into an effective cultural tool.
00:01:57.320 There are so many people, and I'm mostly talking about Canada here, so if you're an American, welcome,
00:02:02.120 but I'm talking about Canadian lefty activists online, as well as politicians who are just self-selecting themselves
00:02:09.740 to start to fall into irrelevancy.
00:02:12.280 They are just going to basically censor themselves, start talking only to a tiny echo chamber,
00:02:17.680 and they are going to continue to wonder why they are losing the use.
00:02:22.740 Maybe it's because you refuse to connect with them unless it's on your exact terms.
00:02:27.360 And this is exactly what it is.
00:02:28.820 They don't want speech to happen unless it happens on their terms.
00:02:32.380 X is way more free speech than Twitter used to be before Elon Musk bought it.
00:02:36.780 There are some very awful people on X who get to speak freely, and guess what?
00:02:41.200 There's actually a lot of utility in that, because you can't hide your views
00:02:44.640 when no one's going to drop the ban hammer on you for saying it.
00:02:48.560 Obviously, you'll get banned for harassing someone hour after hour,
00:02:53.740 or if you're inciting violence directly, obviously,
00:02:57.780 but it's actually exposed a lot of people for being really nasty,
00:03:00.860 because they can't make the excuse, well, I'm not going to say what I think because I'll get banned.
00:03:04.900 You're not going to get banned. Just say it.
00:03:06.880 And it has exposed so many grifters and so many terrible people like Andrew Tate
00:03:12.000 from them just being given a megaphone to expose themselves.
00:03:15.840 Yes, they have more followers than ever,
00:03:17.800 but there's fewer people who respect them than ever as well.
00:03:21.560 So let's just go down this little path of looking at some of these people
00:03:25.700 who genuinely actually had social media traction,
00:03:28.220 who are now just kneecapping themselves.
00:03:30.320 Here's this Callum guy that I highlighted on the show a few days ago,
00:03:34.140 who has now left Twitter.
00:03:36.800 He's sort of staying on, but he started this Blue Sky account,
00:03:40.100 so he can go and talk to maybe the 25 other people who are in Calgary
00:03:45.700 and on the left like him.
00:03:47.300 But this isn't going to do him any favors.
00:03:49.800 It's just going to mean that he's splitting his time between Twitter,
00:03:52.760 and he even labeled himself a Twitter refugee,
00:03:54.900 so I assume that's indicating he's going to stop using this platform so much.
00:03:58.080 How is he going to grow his YouTube channel?
00:03:59.920 His only traction was on X, to give him some credit.
00:04:03.020 He had some decent traction on X.
00:04:04.680 His YouTube channel has like 115 subscribers,
00:04:07.400 and his videos get like five views.
00:04:10.160 He's not going to prosper on this tiny pool.
00:04:13.500 Anyways, we have Cult MTL here, Cult Montreal,
00:04:16.800 which has this headline that's related to free speech being very bad on X.
00:04:22.240 And the headline is,
00:04:23.460 Pure Polly of Rage-Baiting and Empty Slogans Aren't What Canadians Need.
00:04:27.220 And then there is this quote here from the article saying,
00:04:31.340 We are beginning of being conned on a mass scale,
00:04:34.420 and it's downright alarming how powerful social media platforms like X
00:04:38.100 are allowing Russian-made propaganda to weaponize anger
00:04:41.000 and fear to influence public opinion in our democracies.
00:04:44.900 Russian-made propaganda.
00:04:46.640 Have you guys been noticing a lot of Russian-made propaganda around?
00:04:49.740 Maybe it's just me, but I'm not seeing any.
00:04:54.900 And Cult MTL pretending like people are being conned
00:04:58.200 because there is bad information on X,
00:05:01.220 it's not like they're fighting bad information.
00:05:03.680 Cult MTL is a repository of bad information.
00:05:08.220 They're an outlet who every single time,
00:05:10.460 they can kind of squint and see a bad poll number for pure Polly of. 1.00
00:05:13.940 They pretend like Polly of is the most unpopular politician in Canada,
00:05:17.740 despite the fact that they will always ignore Trudeau having bad numbers too,
00:05:22.020 because it is a liberal propaganda outlet.
00:05:25.260 Here's the Alberta NDP,
00:05:27.900 the Alberta New Democratic Party leader,
00:05:30.780 Nahid Nenshi, saying,
00:05:32.240 It's hard to dream small with a blue sky this big.
00:05:35.680 New account.
00:05:36.540 And he links his blue sky account on his X page.
00:05:40.040 Which, even if he stays on X and he keeps posting,
00:05:44.300 this is a great strategy to make sure you are culturally irrelevant.
00:05:48.080 Because you will have some hardcore NDP people
00:05:50.600 who start exclusively following him,
00:05:52.560 and blue sky deletes their X account,
00:05:54.640 and they just start using blue sky.
00:05:56.940 He'll have like 1,500 followers there or whatever,
00:06:00.360 and those people will have zero reach.
00:06:02.720 Because they will only be stuck in a tiny echo chamber
00:06:06.300 where they talk to themselves.
00:06:07.440 They are not going to talk to anyone who is not already on board
00:06:10.720 with the Alberta NDP.
00:06:12.240 And then his X account is going to start floundering,
00:06:14.640 because now he's not getting an automatic 800 likes
00:06:17.760 and, you know, 65 retweets on everything he posts.
00:06:20.780 Because all those people are on blue sky,
00:06:22.820 just cycling the same information over and over again between themselves.
00:06:27.060 Justin Ling here,
00:06:28.420 and he literally has made his profile name,
00:06:30.580 Justin Ling has left,
00:06:32.240 because apparently it's so bad on X right now.
00:06:35.640 Justin Ling says,
00:06:36.420 For the past year, I've been sharing links on this bad place,
00:06:39.840 but now that the exodus to blue sky is in full swing,
00:06:42.900 I'm going to stop.
00:06:44.180 If you want to keep up with my work,
00:06:46.040 follow me on Substack or blue sky.
00:06:48.300 Goodbye.
00:06:49.780 I thought also Substack was supposedly a bad place,
00:06:52.420 because they allowed people like Barry Weiss
00:06:54.600 and others on the right to just say whatever they wanted.
00:06:57.860 But I guess those are fine,
00:06:59.360 because the real villain right now is X.
00:07:01.660 Okay, thanks, Justin.
00:07:03.880 You're still irrelevant.
00:07:05.340 All these people just have no relevancy.
00:07:07.540 And I don't even,
00:07:08.140 here's the guy I don't even exactly dislike on the left.
00:07:11.000 Jesse Brown,
00:07:11.740 he's been standing up to a lot of the anti-Semites on the left,
00:07:14.600 and I think doing a pretty good job about it.
00:07:16.660 But now I see Jesse Brown making a very big category error
00:07:22.320 to what the problem on social media is.
00:07:25.580 He says,
00:07:26.260 I've moved over to blue sky.
00:07:27.880 After October 7th,
00:07:28.920 I began using this account as a place to keep track of
00:07:31.560 the rise of anti-Semitism in Canada.
00:07:33.800 I'll keep doing that here.
00:07:35.240 Maybe it will be a useful resource,
00:07:36.780 a timeline of what's been happening.
00:07:39.140 Jesse,
00:07:40.160 baby,
00:07:40.720 you're going to be shifting from X to blue sky
00:07:45.160 with all of the lefty anti-Semites,
00:07:47.840 because the vast majority of anti-Semitism these days
00:07:50.320 has been coming from the progressive left.
00:07:53.320 Yes,
00:07:53.700 every once in a while,
00:07:54.920 you have some guy like Dan Balzerian or whatever
00:07:57.500 saying that the Holocaust was fake,
00:07:59.560 but everyone mostly just points and laughs at him on X,
00:08:02.100 and everyone just doesn't take him seriously anymore.
00:08:04.280 He's moving over with all the respectable anti-Semites 1.00
00:08:07.240 who go on blue sky,
00:08:09.140 and they'll be making up misinformation about Israel
00:08:11.540 and suspecting that every Jewish person
00:08:13.600 is secretly compromised
00:08:15.080 the way Ilhan Omar tries to stealthily accuse people of.
00:08:19.440 Anyways,
00:08:20.060 here's the Guardian,
00:08:20.960 and this isn't a Canadian example,
00:08:22.540 but it's just funny.
00:08:23.720 Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X?
00:08:27.780 Nobody cares.
00:08:29.700 And their reasoning,
00:08:32.480 and I already know what it is,
00:08:34.080 is that there's extremism allowed on X.
00:08:36.720 Was there not extremism allowed on Twitter?
00:08:39.140 before Elon Musk bought it?
00:08:40.840 The whole criticism of the right was
00:08:42.380 that this is really unfair,
00:08:43.940 because while,
00:08:44.720 yes,
00:08:45.260 people on the right can say bad things,
00:08:47.260 the problem is people on the left
00:08:48.580 can equally say bad things,
00:08:49.980 and Twitter would allow
00:08:50.860 all of the pro-terror apologia
00:08:52.920 while it was not owned by Elon Musk,
00:08:56.100 and when it started being owned by Elon Musk,
00:08:57.980 people can say whatever they want
00:08:59.540 and expose themselves,
00:09:01.080 but we're not going to ban anybody arbitrarily
00:09:03.320 because we don't like that type of extremism,
00:09:05.300 but we're okay with this one.
00:09:07.060 I'm okay with no types of extremism,
00:09:09.140 but it doesn't help to ban people
00:09:11.200 to get control of it.
00:09:13.040 This is just me making fun of Creek Pete,
00:09:15.420 who has now privated his X account
00:09:17.880 in the aftermath of the exodus to Blue Sky,
00:09:21.080 and I said,
00:09:21.560 it's finally happening.
00:09:23.000 The liberal cheerleaders on social media
00:09:24.680 are censoring themselves
00:09:25.960 and moving to the irrelevant
00:09:27.440 lefty echo chamber, Blue Sky.
00:09:29.340 They got tired of being corrected
00:09:30.740 after blindly promoting anything
00:09:32.220 the liberals did
00:09:32.960 and naysaying the conservatives.
00:09:35.480 Again, funny thing,
00:09:36.880 it's creepy to someone
00:09:37.660 who actually had traction on X.
00:09:40.640 People would promote his videos.
00:09:41.960 He would retweet them promoting his videos.
00:09:44.080 He got a lot of juice out of X.
00:09:47.040 His TikTok account is not very popular.
00:09:49.760 He's irrelevant on places like YouTube
00:09:51.800 and other social media platforms,
00:09:53.940 so he is now just eliminating
00:09:56.180 all relevancy he has
00:09:57.980 by moving onto a platform
00:09:59.220 where nobody cares who he is
00:10:00.720 because everyone already knows him.
00:10:02.500 They already watch his stuff,
00:10:03.640 and what's the point of even following the guy
00:10:05.560 when you're already following him
00:10:06.940 on TikTok or whatever?
00:10:08.140 There's no one new to promote yourself to
00:10:10.960 in an echo chamber.
00:10:12.140 It is a private club.
00:10:13.840 You don't have to advertise yourself
00:10:15.280 in a private club.
00:10:17.440 Here we go to,
00:10:18.880 this one is really funny.
00:10:20.100 Thanks from Marty up north
00:10:21.300 for highlighting this.
00:10:22.840 The Alberta NDP deputy leader
00:10:24.540 is leaving X.
00:10:25.840 She's retreating to a small echo chamber.
00:10:28.220 Yeah, so Racky Pacchioli,
00:10:30.680 the Alberta new Democratic party leader,
00:10:34.140 is literally not even just using both,
00:10:36.580 which would already hurt her reach.
00:10:38.220 She's just leaving X.
00:10:39.520 This is my last post on X.
00:10:41.580 This space has become increasingly unsafe
00:10:43.780 and toxic over the past two years,
00:10:45.440 and I am done.
00:10:46.540 You can continue to find me
00:10:47.800 on the other social media sites,
00:10:49.380 and you can reach me in my formal capacities
00:10:51.000 as MLA by email and phone,
00:10:53.600 Instagram, Facebook threads,
00:10:54.880 at Racky Pacchioli,
00:10:57.040 Blue Sky,
00:10:58.000 like Blue Sky,
00:10:59.040 you know,
00:10:59.300 whatever her thing is,
00:11:00.360 better is possible
00:11:01.360 with a commie fist or whatever.
00:11:04.820 Keep going, guys.
00:11:06.100 Nobody cares.
00:11:08.560 My goodness.
00:11:10.340 It's not going to work.
00:11:11.920 It's not going to work.
00:11:13.660 Yes, there are 15 million people
00:11:15.400 using Blue Sky.
00:11:16.860 I think there's like 500 million people
00:11:18.620 using X or registered users.
00:11:21.020 Registered users does not mean activity.
00:11:22.940 There are tens of,
00:11:24.860 there's probably more than 10 million people
00:11:26.340 who use Truth Social
00:11:27.460 who are signed up on it,
00:11:28.860 mostly just for Trump's tweets.
00:11:30.540 And if anything,
00:11:31.200 you could argue
00:11:31.760 there's a reason to use Truth Social
00:11:33.740 because you will see
00:11:34.720 Trump's posts first.
00:11:36.440 What's the person you're following
00:11:37.840 on Blue Sky
00:11:38.560 that you desperately need
00:11:39.620 to hear up from?
00:11:40.920 No one.
00:11:41.700 There's no draw for Blue Sky.
00:11:43.780 It's not exactly like
00:11:45.140 they found some big creators
00:11:46.560 to move over first
00:11:47.560 and create exclusive content.
00:11:49.320 You're going to have a lot of people
00:11:50.940 who are doing both
00:11:51.960 where they're just cross-posting,
00:11:53.900 which means that there's no point
00:11:55.020 to follow them on Blue Sky.
00:11:56.440 And then you're going to have
00:11:57.260 a small minority of people
00:11:58.320 who only post on Blue Sky
00:11:59.780 and nobody cares.
00:12:01.260 Remember that,
00:12:01.960 wasn't there one called like
00:12:03.020 Megadon or Megalodon
00:12:04.600 that was also a lefty site,
00:12:07.460 like a new social media alternative to X
00:12:09.060 because X was so bad.
00:12:10.240 And then it quickly turned into like
00:12:11.940 a place for a lot of illegal content
00:12:13.580 because they had no moderation
00:12:15.280 for certain things.
00:12:16.180 But you would get,
00:12:16.920 you would get banned
00:12:17.980 for being negative
00:12:18.780 and it like got taken over
00:12:20.120 by like weirdos and furries
00:12:21.620 or whatever.
00:12:22.600 It's going to happen
00:12:23.700 with Blue Sky too.
00:12:25.020 The left,
00:12:25.640 when they take over a space
00:12:26.880 and they have too much power,
00:12:28.540 just start eating themselves,
00:12:29.640 eating each other.
00:12:30.300 They start attacking people
00:12:31.540 for,
00:12:32.200 because they need,
00:12:33.480 they have a quota
00:12:34.020 for how many people
00:12:34.700 they cancel a day.
00:12:36.020 When the right's gone
00:12:36.940 from their social media,
00:12:38.140 they're just going to start
00:12:38.720 canceling each other.
00:12:39.940 And again,
00:12:40.460 they're nasty people on X.
00:12:41.840 I don't like Andrew Tate.
00:12:42.940 I don't like Candace Owens. 1.00
00:12:44.740 Nasty people.
00:12:45.760 It's been great
00:12:46.480 that they've had a megaphone
00:12:47.520 because I think they've fully,
00:12:49.380 like completely destroyed themselves.
00:12:53.000 Yes,
00:12:53.380 Candace Owens has one
00:12:54.180 of the biggest podcasts
00:12:55.180 in the world.
00:12:56.800 A lot of people,
00:12:57.900 I suspect,
00:12:58.480 listen to it
00:12:59.100 because it's just kind of
00:13:01.080 like TLC type content.
00:13:03.120 She's constantly getting 0.97
00:13:03.840 into fights with people.
00:13:04.740 There's drama,
00:13:05.400 all that stuff.
00:13:06.220 But the lady could probably 1.00
00:13:07.520 never actually get elected
00:13:08.680 to a public office
00:13:10.260 ever again.
00:13:11.840 She's never tried,
00:13:12.660 but I'm just saying
00:13:13.260 if she tried to,
00:13:14.380 way too many people
00:13:15.260 know she's in that case now
00:13:16.380 because she talked too much 0.95
00:13:17.960 and she kept following
00:13:19.200 social media trends.
00:13:20.640 That is maybe one thing
00:13:21.880 you could say
00:13:22.340 that's a problem with X.
00:13:23.600 People are incentivized
00:13:24.920 to post things
00:13:25.460 to get attention.
00:13:26.580 But that's always
00:13:27.360 been social media.
00:13:28.340 I'm not sure
00:13:28.700 when that's changed.
00:13:31.400 Well,
00:13:32.000 anyways though,
00:13:33.220 that's it for me today,
00:13:34.560 guys.
00:13:34.960 Remember to subscribe
00:13:35.700 to the channel,
00:13:36.460 like this video,
00:13:37.260 do all that great stuff.
00:13:38.960 I'll see you guys
00:13:39.840 some other time,
00:13:40.860 but I won't see you guys
00:13:42.060 on Blue Sky.
00:13:42.820 I unfortunately,
00:13:44.240 I'm not going to be
00:13:45.200 getting an account.
00:13:46.540 I know it's a cool space
00:13:48.040 full of cool people,
00:13:49.200 but I prefer X
00:13:50.500 and Facebook
00:13:51.260 and YouTube
00:13:51.900 and places
00:13:52.640 where people actually are.
00:13:54.720 Anyways,
00:13:55.380 see you guys later.