The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - September 13, 2026


Carney Just Blew Himself Up With Backdoor EU Scheme!


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00:00:00.000 So, apparently, Prime Minister Mark Carney, Captain Canada himself, who declares to President Donald Trump that Canada will never become the 51st state.
00:00:10.500 Well, he wants Canada to become the 28th member of the European Union.
00:00:16.460 Of course, without telling Canadians about his scheme.
00:00:19.920 Canadians are learning about this story from the Wall Street Journal, which is in America.
00:00:25.100 because, of course, no Canadian legacy media publication would actually write an article about this
00:00:31.240 because it could hurt the Carney liberals.
00:00:34.300 The headline here from the Wall Street Journal is
00:00:36.840 How Mark Carney is trying to make Canada European again.
00:00:41.380 And while there is a lot of anonymous sources in the Wall Street Journal story,
00:00:46.060 the amount of sources they have and the amount of specificity that they go into
00:00:50.080 does lend some credibility to what was written.
00:00:54.220 This person here, Anthony LaMessa, highlights this quote from the article that reads,
00:00:58.880 In conversations with France, whose president Emmanuel Macron speaks to Carney often,
00:01:04.340 the idea has even come up to allow Canadians to live and work in Europe visa-free,
00:01:08.840 two officials familiar with those discussions said.
00:01:12.040 So while they are anonymous sources, those are two sources in the French government,
00:01:18.260 among many other sources from other EU member states.
00:01:22.500 that feels somewhat credible to me way more credible than the way that ctv news tried to
00:01:29.020 respond to this story because of course they're spinning in favor of the carny liberals here
00:01:33.580 but this is going to blow up the carny brand if there is any truth to it and it seems like there
00:01:40.700 is because you cannot be simultaneously though we're not going to become the 51st state guy 0.85
00:01:46.820 At the same time, in the background, you're slowly organizing Canada to join the EU, or not even really join the EU, kind of get stapled onto the EU and have no voting rights, despite the fact we would also have to still follow EU regulations, which are absolutely insane, open borders, censorship garbage.
00:02:06.620 But what do I know? I'm not a sophisticated European like Prime Minister Mark Carney. 0.64
00:02:11.600 I want to jump now to what CTV News wrote on this, because the fashion in which this was responded to actually just makes me think there is more fire behind the smoke here, because CTV News wrote this headline,
00:02:28.640 Canada not seeking EU membership in any capacity source so to counter the multiple detailed sources
00:02:39.940 that the Wall Street Journal article had CTV News has a source from the Liberal government probably
00:02:48.140 just saying nah no details no contextualization to the conversations that were described in the
00:02:55.020 Wall Street Journal article about bringing Canada in as an adjunct member, just nah. This article
00:03:02.520 from the Wall Street Journal has been out for 20 hours. This is kind of a big deal. The fact that
00:03:08.420 Carney and his communications team couldn't get a quick statement out saying, this is wrong,
00:03:14.240 I deny this, I have never actually spoken about this seriously, is concerning. Because he maybe
00:03:19.560 wants to see what Canadians think about all this stuff, and then decide if he actually wants to do
00:03:24.560 the European Union thing still. If you come out and deny it yourself, it means you are officially
00:03:29.160 shutting the door. When sources are sent out to deny the story, it's leaving the door somewhat
00:03:35.040 ajar. And I thought Mario Zelaya had a good way of summing up this entire thing, the article from
00:03:41.240 CTV News. Mario here says, at best, this is propaganda. At worst, it's misinformation. An
00:03:48.220 anonymous source? Why does our Prime Minister simply make a statement given the leak to Wall
00:03:53.380 Street Journal? Why not have an open discussion in Parliament before heading to the EU? How do we
00:03:59.240 know that he didn't reverse course after seeing the blowback? Why keep this a secret at all? And
00:04:04.780 the thing is, it's not surprising given his background. He was the head of the Bank of
00:04:09.440 England. His wife is from the UK. He has spent a lot of time both in the UK as well as the European 0.63
00:04:18.740 like European Union countries in general the man opposed Brexit so obviously he has
00:04:25.240 a very strong pro-EU feeling he keeps acting he keeps saying things like Canada is the most
00:04:31.600 European of the North American like of the North American countries or I think he said of the new
00:04:36.860 world or whatever this clearly is something that deeply matters to him and he needs to be the one
00:04:43.060 to come out and say this was all taken out of context or none of this actually happened but i
00:04:48.860 don't think the french are trying to screw with mark carney i don't think officials out of other
00:04:54.800 eu countries or the canadian government are just trying to mess with mark carney in fact they tend
00:05:00.580 to quite like him like emmanuel macron and his officials they were probably talking to the wall
00:05:05.700 street journal in a positive way wow look we're even maybe gonna have a free work visa for canadians
00:05:12.720 and Europeans to go back and forth and work in each other countries. That's the way that that
00:05:17.560 reads. It wasn't a scare story, but it is deeply hypocritical when Mark Carney is the anti-51st 0.55
00:05:24.700 state guy. Now, I'm not pro-51st state. You can't find a serious person who's actually pitching
00:05:30.920 that in Canadian politics, but you can't make your brand, you should rally around the flag that is
00:05:36.660 mark carney and you know grasp onto his leg as as donald trump batters away at us and hide beneath
00:05:44.100 the shield mark carney is holding up at the same time on the other hand he's trying to slyly slip
00:05:50.820 us into the european union again an economic basket case trade coalition that has insane
00:05:59.700 powers to do things like pass hate speech laws and even fine member countries if they don't allow
00:06:06.420 illegal migrants over their borders like they did with hungary hungary is still remaining defiant
00:06:12.500 by the way and other countries are also starting to push back and try and expelling migrants but 0.53
00:06:17.780 why the heck would you want to join these people unless that is what represents your values mark
00:06:23.460 carney here is a complete weasel but i now want to move on to some of the reactions that we ended
00:06:28.260 up getting from conservative mps as well as pure poly of roman baber here was one of the first to
00:06:34.820 react uh he was reacting to the reuters posting of it carney pushes idea of making associate
00:06:40.900 making canned associate member of eu wall street journal reports and roman baber says what fresh
00:06:47.700 hell is this the european union is falling apart full of waste overregulation and terrible
00:06:52.920 immigration policy where censorship thrives we are canadian we are not european mark carney did
00:06:59.360 not campaign and join the eu and he did not consult parliament and yeah it kind of does line
00:07:04.460 up that there's some truth to this seeing as carney is about to go to the european union
00:07:09.400 without recalling parliament apparently we're in a trade crisis right now but you know screw
00:07:15.220 parliament i don't need those guys for votes right now as mark carney says the only thing
00:07:19.040 members of parliament are useful for is for votes and he doesn't need to vote on anything at the
00:07:24.340 moment because he's doing everything by like executive action at the moment and so no parliament
00:07:29.740 needing to be recalled and not in the face of him maybe making a deal in the European Union either.
00:07:36.200 Peter Polly of here says,
00:07:37.980 Mark Carney could not be more out of touch.
00:07:41.540 With Canadians missing meals and mortgage payments and days before he addresses the European Parliament
00:07:45.940 instead of the Canadian Parliament, we learn in a foreign newspaper of secret talks
00:07:50.900 to make Canada an associate member of the European Union.
00:07:54.660 This is not about diversifying trade.
00:07:56.460 We have had a tariff-free trade with Europe for over a decade.
00:08:02.120 They would buy more of our goods today if the Liberal government would get out of the way and permit mines, pipelines, LNG plants to produce and ship them.
00:08:09.520 Canadians deserve answers.
00:08:11.080 Is the Wall Street Journal report true about associate membership in the EU?
00:08:15.980 If so, will European border policy apply to Canada?
00:08:19.440 Further overwhelming our immigration system while our youth can't find homes?
00:08:22.800 Will Canadian waitresses struggle with rent to have to pay tax dollars to the bloated EU bureaucracy?
00:08:29.560 Will Canadian small businesses be buried under the red tape of Eurocrats that have never met a Canadian entrepreneur?
00:08:36.080 All questions I'd ask in Parliament, but it's shuttered.
00:08:40.640 And one more. Who decides for Canada?
00:08:44.460 The well-and-welder did not elect a Eurocrat to regulate our steel.
00:08:49.180 The Saskatchewan farmer and the Atlantic fisherman did not choose Brussels' agri-food regulator that has never seen our prairies or coasts.
00:08:57.720 We will never be the 51st state. We will never be the 28th EU state.
00:09:01.700 We are Canadians. This is our home, our freedom, our sovereignty, our people, now and forever.
00:09:06.440 I thought that was a really good way of summing it up because he didn't just say,
00:09:09.880 hey, I don't want to become the 51st state or the 28th EU member.
00:09:14.000 I thought that the way he also summed up the awful policies of the European Union that Mark Carney has been tacitly endorsing his entire career by always trying to cozy up with the EU, I thought that was a really good angle for him.
00:09:28.520 And I believe to this point, if I can check right now, Mark Carney has still not actually responded to any of this.
00:09:36.400 Yeah, of course, he just did a live press event where he said, Canada has what the world wants.
00:09:42.980 en direct like okay um but he's had a lot of other opportunities to respond to the story it's been
00:09:50.460 out for 20 hours eight hours ago just posted a clip of him and dominic leblanc making that
00:09:55.940 address from two weeks ago about the trade deal falling through uh you know posting it again in
00:10:01.640 french uh this was posted beforehand but it's been a day and while sometimes politicians need
00:10:07.340 a few days to respond to a story when it's directly about you and your position it should
00:10:13.580 be easy to come out and say that's not what i believe i am not joining the european union i
00:10:18.600 might want to sign an additional trade compact so they buy more of our stuff or whatever but even
00:10:24.460 that doesn't make sense because we have a free trade deal with them so what'd be the point
00:10:27.580 obviously all of carney's rhetorical kind of you know soft shoeing across the dance floor to the
00:10:34.080 eu meant something it wasn't just for fun he was doing it probably trying to test the waters to
00:10:39.960 see what canadians would think if he actually tried to become an associate member of the european
00:10:44.900 union and notice how in that ctv news article and it's in the article i've seen people i've read the
00:10:51.300 thing they basically just denies that we're not we're not going for eu membership it's like can
00:10:57.840 you deny that we're going for associate membership because that's actually worse than becoming a full
00:11:03.980 member. At least a full member has a voting right. An associate member just gets to be stapled on and
00:11:09.920 gets all of the negatives and none of the representational positives. Not that it's
00:11:14.980 positive on net to become part of the EU. No country should want to join that thing. More
00:11:19.500 countries should, in fact, probably just leave and then sign bilateral free trade agreements with all
00:11:24.160 the members. That would probably be better. But they never denied in that story, the source never
00:11:29.220 denied that we were looking for associate membership. They just said, we're not looking
00:11:33.020 for membership which allows mark carney to be rhetorically evasive in the future oh of course
00:11:38.520 we're not a european country we're not becoming a full member but what about a partial member
00:11:42.820 i guarantee if this comes up at a press conference he is going to be very slippery and he is not
00:11:49.400 going to want to actually answer this question straight on and it's going to be though we talk
00:11:53.920 to a lot of countries and we're promoting canadian trade and at this time we haven't discussed
00:11:58.920 anything like that i talked to i talked to world leaders about many things and and i talked to
00:12:04.860 emmanuel macron about ukraine and foreign affairs and trade and all this stuff it's like but did
00:12:09.760 you ask him about it did you talk about the eu thing it's like yesterday when mark carney just
00:12:16.040 acted dumb when it came to whether or not he talked to donald trump on the phone about trade
00:12:20.920 and then later donald trump came out when he was in ireland and said oh yeah i got a call from the 0.99
00:12:25.580 Canadians and they want a trade deal. And now, of course, we have the media trying to freak out
00:12:31.600 over the fact that he mentioned Iran in the same sentence of saying, oh, Canada wants a trade deal
00:12:37.640 and Iran wants peace. Isn't it funny that Canada and Iran are coming up in the same sentence?
00:12:42.080 It's actually not that crazy considering how permissive the Canadian government is with 0.93
00:12:46.240 Islamic regime officials moving and hiding in Canada and sometimes even getting fat government 0.94
00:12:52.020 contracts as well. But, you know, I'm not going to get too far down that rabbit hole. But we have 0.96
00:12:58.340 all, Carney constantly evades what the actual subject of the question is when it makes him
00:13:05.560 uncomfortable. But now I got to jump onto this graph that Kirk Lubomov had posted. He always
00:13:13.540 does really good stuff with graphs and economic statistics, or economic data. Kirk Lubomov here
00:13:19.780 Here posts, while Mark Carney is musing for Canada to become an associate member of the EU, let me give you some context in regards to Canada exports to US versus EU and UK. Canada exports monthly 12 times more to the US than the EU. Canada exports more to the UK than the EU.
00:13:41.680 Heck, Canada's interprovincial trade barriers that we keep promising to remove but don't remove cost Canada's economy four times more of our exports than to the EU.
00:13:52.780 This is not an economic move, it's a political and ideological move.
00:13:58.180 Absolutely, this is a great chart to memorize.
00:14:02.020 The European Union is in single digits of monthly billions of dollars in trade.
00:14:08.320 at least the uk is probably like seven or eight or nine billion the eu at best is maybe punching
00:14:16.380 four probably more like three or two every month we just don't do a lot of trade with them despite
00:14:21.660 having a free trade deal and they're not being that much in the way to trading more with them
00:14:25.920 yeah it's probably mostly just taxes and regulations at this point but there's no
00:14:29.640 actual barriers when it comes to the eu's willingness to trade more and kirk is right
00:14:35.320 this is a political move, not an economic one. Carney has not been making any economic decisions
00:14:41.280 since he became prime minister. Yeah, he's loosing some regulations here and there, but
00:14:45.340 mostly only because of political pressure. Everything he says and does is only about
00:14:50.120 Mark Carney and being anti-American. That doesn't mean I agree with the Americans on everything.
00:14:56.320 Far from it. I think the whole tariff thing on Canada is really dumb. Now, maybe there's some 0.99
00:15:02.200 things that they have a point on, like Canada getting too warm to China, it just probably didn't
00:15:07.080 need the massive tariff hit in order to solve this problem. But Carney's reaction to everything
00:15:13.460 the Americans have done has nothing to do with trying to build up Canada and make us more prosperous
00:15:17.460 and make us stronger. It's always about opposition to the Americans, and that is what this European
00:15:23.380 Union thing is as well. I just want to get to another reaction here. I thought this was a good
00:15:30.240 response from the food professor sylvie and charlebois who which i wish i that was my name
00:15:35.840 i wish i had a name that had that much gold gilding on it sylvie and charlebois like i would
00:15:42.040 you know can we throw an algernon in there you know sylvie and algernon charlebois well regardless
00:15:48.140 now i'm done being silly but food professor here says breaking according to the wall street journal
00:15:53.540 prime minister carney wants canada to become an associate member of the eu a category that does
00:15:58.260 not exist. We could gain market access but may have to follow EU rules without a vote. An agri
00:16:04.420 food can risk becoming a rule taker. And even then, we already have a full free trade agreement
00:16:11.060 with the European Union. There might be some restrictions on what we can really export based
00:16:16.460 on what they want, but that would be really the only difference. Maybe if we sign on as an
00:16:21.820 associate member, certain other European Union members have to agree to import a certain amount
00:16:26.300 of Canadian goods maybe that would be the upside even if you had doubled our EU exports it wouldn't
00:16:33.160 really matter a hill of beans compared to our relationship with the United States but I don't
00:16:39.720 know what do I know Mark Carney is the sophisticated European who understands all this
00:16:45.320 stuff I don't understand this stuff because I'm not sophisticated enough but again the fact that
00:16:50.160 we are getting this and by the way the funny thing is ctv news they also published a story uh they
00:16:57.540 syndicated the wall street journal article carney pushes idea of making can associate member of eu
00:17:02.400 wall street journal reports they reported that nine hours ago and then they come back with that
00:17:08.220 lame story saying oh canada oh canada not seeking eu membership in any capacity source
00:17:14.740 what do they mean by that they mean no associate memberships what do you mean by not seeking like
00:17:20.960 we haven't formally filed any paperwork we haven't formally started the top of the talks
00:17:25.200 i have to be told that this is entirely wrong and mark carney has no desire not that canada's not
00:17:31.700 seeking an eu membership in any capacity because i don't know what you mean by that because carney
00:17:36.440 speaks and his team speaks so vaguely about everything that and that things could mean
00:17:41.640 anything. And we've seen this with every time he gets into a trade kerfuffle with President Donald
00:17:47.520 Trump. He goes really hard and aggressive and says, I'm not coming back to the table. They have
00:17:51.740 to come back to me. And then over time, the goalpost shift to saying, well, as long as they
00:17:56.320 don't post memes, I'll call them. And then he just calls Trump anyways, despite the fact that Trump
00:18:00.660 still posts Canada memes all the time. Carney doesn't say what he means. It's also another way
00:18:06.800 saying that mark carney our prime minister is a liar and you can't be the anti-50 first state guy
00:18:13.040 while you're the pro-28 eu guy doesn't work that way the conservatives can say with you know their
00:18:20.540 you know their chests out that we don't want to become either carney really can't and if there's
00:18:26.200 any truth to these stories that should destroy his brand that the man is a schemer and he keeps
00:18:32.280 talking about how canada's never going to become the 50 first state to be to seem all strong and
00:18:36.360 Canadian. At the same time, he's trying to sell us out to a corrupt, censorious trade bloc in a
00:18:41.860 different continent, as well as China at the same time. We always have to mention that one,
00:18:46.720 since it's always present. We want to now militarily cooperate with the Chinese People's
00:18:51.440 Liberation Army. That's something to look forward to. Anyways, with all that being said, thank you
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