The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - August 11, 2026


Carney Slammed on CBC for Messing up Trump Trade Deal!


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00:00:00.000 You know things are really bad for Prime Minister Mark Carney and the liberals when even the CBC
00:00:05.580 is incapable of making excuses for them. Not even lame excuses. That's how bad Carney's
00:00:12.520 performance on trade with the United States has been. Later on in this video, we're going to be
00:00:17.620 talking about a panel on the CBC where even the liberal on the panel is admitting that Carney
00:00:23.920 is messing this whole thing up. And how could he have not messed it up? His campaign rhetoric when
00:00:29.220 it came to trade with the U.S. was delusional. The elbows-up approach was never going to work,
00:00:35.040 but now it's not even like he's taking a more realistic approach. He's now just making
00:00:39.540 concessions for absolutely nothing in return. It's the worst of both worlds. Anti-American
00:00:46.200 elbows-up rhetoric, plus not even actually playing negotiating hardball when we're engaging with the
00:00:52.440 Americans. It's just pathetic. But in just a second, we're going to get into the CBC video.
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00:01:24.300 supporting me for that provincial nomination. But now, without further ado, let's get into the CBC
00:01:30.700 segment. It's first going to start off as an interview with a Conservative MP, then we're
00:01:35.900 going to be moving into the panel, but both are worth watching. What we are saying is Canada has
00:01:42.140 leverage. Let's use it. No more caving, no more unilateral concessions without any gains in return.
00:01:48.580 use our leverage at the table to get the win that Mark Carney promised during the last election.
00:01:56.480 For more on the Conservatives' approach, I'm joined by Alberta MP and Conservative critic
00:02:00.800 for Canada-US relations, Shuvalloy Majumder. Thank you very much for joining us. I appreciate that.
00:02:06.660 Pierre Polyev was out today talking about finding positive leverage. What is that and what does that
00:02:11.840 look like? It's a great question. I mean, for the last year and a half, we had the chance to
00:02:15.120 really build the strength of this country in the face of these unjustified tariffs, these
00:02:19.840 attacks on our economy. None of us agree with the fact that President Trump uses Canadians like a
00:02:25.640 punching bag. That's why conservatives called on major decisions to increase our domestic strength
00:02:30.620 that meant hardening our borders, animating our defense sector, proposing a strategic minerals
00:02:35.660 and energy supply for tariff-free access to the United States and to others to unleash our
00:02:40.580 resources and repeal anti-development legislation that is locking away trillions of dollars of
00:02:44.780 investment our economy needs. An auto pack 2.0 that would increase supply between Canada and the
00:02:50.200 United States for the international market. All of the big decisions, the transformational things
00:02:55.160 that Pierre Polyev had recommended since the election and well beyond that conservatives
00:02:59.620 have been prepared to vote for day in, day out over the last year and a half. All of those decisions
00:03:05.000 were ones that have been squandered over the last year and a half by the prime minister.
00:03:09.100 He's resulting in a weak negotiation with the United States where, as you noted, concession
00:03:14.160 after concession after concession has been on display uh we want to win for canadian auto
00:03:18.640 workers lumber workers steel workers and aluminum workers we want a certainty and an end to the
00:03:24.160 anxiety that canadian families are experiencing as a result of this cost of waiting so those are
00:03:28.240 the types of things that i think uh could have been focused on over the last year and a half
00:03:33.280 now i wanted to let him get through his sort of full opening monologue on this interview uh you
00:03:39.440 You know, I do take critiques from the audience.
00:03:43.040 I do sometimes pause a little bit too much to throw in my own two cents.
00:03:45.900 But having listened to that, what is actually disagreeable there?
00:03:49.920 The only thing I would add is just saying we could also put supply management and some of these other things on the table,
00:03:55.980 which he will be getting into, that there's many policies that as conservatives we don't even like,
00:04:01.020 which is a great opportunity to get rid of them like the DST and the streaming tax in favor of getting a concession back from the United States.
00:04:08.360 But as a liberal, as a liberal voter, how can you not say that maybe Pierre Polyev would have done a better job?
00:04:16.500 It just seems like a default that online liberal shows will say, well, it would have been worse if Pierre Polyev was the prime minister, which is always what the left does.
00:04:24.680 They push forward. There's a crisis and only they can solve it.
00:04:28.500 And then when things get much worse, they declare, well, if we didn't do what we had done, it would have been even worse.
00:04:34.560 And it's like, guys, how is it that we're a year and a half in and we're giving up major concessions simply to avoid more tariffs, not even to reduce or eliminate the current ones?
00:04:45.420 We are effectively giving up what we are willing to give up back in October of 2025.
00:04:50.860 But instead of reducing tariffs like the plan was in October, we are now simply avoiding new tariffs with the current ones staying in place at their current levels.
00:04:59.380 And in fact, like I said in my previous video, if we had negotiated this not in October 2025, but in June, July 2025, we may have actually been able to get to the point where we effectively eliminated the counter tariffs.
00:05:13.060 But as time goes on and the American market copes with the tariffs that they have on them, they're able to kind of steady themselves and they're less angry at Donald Trump over time for having to deal with the tariffs, whereas our economy can't cope with it.
00:05:26.840 So our leverage is going down as Donald Trump is stabilizing his position with his own people and they're less annoyed by the tariffs because they found other ways of being able to sell off the goods without having to import them into Canada.
00:05:38.620 But now let's get into Katie Simpson trying to do her best to deflect blame for Mark Carney.
00:05:45.600 Now, even though the CBC is incapable of making excuses, they try, but it ends up basically just admitting that Mark Carney has failed pretty hard.
00:05:55.920 And again, later on, we're going to get into the panel where the liberal on the panel just admits that Carney looks so bad going to Italy right now in the midst of trade negotiations.
00:06:04.620 One thing that we've seen with the Trump administration, it has been consistent in that
00:06:09.260 all of the new trade deals that either announces or it signs, each one, the country that the
00:06:15.120 agreement is with, they have to still face some form of tariff. It could be the tariff is lower,
00:06:19.880 but there's some sort of tariff involved. Yes, she's just admitted that Carney is doing a bad
00:06:25.640 job. Other countries maybe got imperfect agreements, but they got the tariffs lower.
00:06:31.720 She's saying, well, she's basically, this is the lamest excuse I've ever heard.
00:06:35.620 It is below lame.
00:06:37.960 Well, you know, Japan and the UK and France and Mexico, the way they're negotiating things,
00:06:43.220 it looks like there's still going to be a 10% or 15% tariff in place, but it's not 50%.
00:06:49.560 We're not even trying to reduce the 50% tariffs on softwood and autos and aluminum and steel
00:06:55.240 and copper and other minerals.
00:06:56.700 were simply trying to avoid another 50% tariffs on an additional 5% of export goods to the United
00:07:04.580 States. And it's like, guys, we have actually more leverage to get even lower than those other
00:07:09.340 countries because Trump doesn't have to care as much over keeping a 15% tariff in place on Japan
00:07:15.120 because, you know, the exports to Japan are not nearly as big and it's not nearly as impactful
00:07:20.780 for his industries as it is with Canada, where they trade with us like 40% or something with
00:07:26.300 all their exports. They trade massively with Canada. We trade even more massively with them.
00:07:32.280 And so that, if anything, it's pointing out that Canada has a lot more leverage than these other
00:07:37.620 countries. And yet they're lowering tariffs. And we're simply trying to deflect new tariffs
00:07:42.380 and keeping the current ones in place. It's just asinine that this is somehow like she thinks that
00:07:48.200 this is somehow a good excuse for the liberals. Well, you know, other people have been only being
00:07:52.800 able to reduce them like well we haven't even been able to do that and we're playing on easy
00:07:56.780 mode compared to some of those countries do you take a look at that and put that into the
00:08:01.560 consideration with the way you criticize the carny government to say you know is do you think
00:08:06.020 there is a realistic place canada can land with no additional tariffs before donald trump returned
00:08:10.560 to office even if he didn't think there was a realistic place carny pretended there was again
00:08:17.300 we all those countries are reducing their tariffs we haven't reduced any tariffs and then again it
00:08:22.780 doesn't matter if it's realistic or not. Mark Carney marketed himself as the guy who could do
00:08:27.860 it. It's a fair question to ask the prime minister into the government. And let me take your question
00:08:32.400 at its face as well. Canada and the United States are at an inflection point. This is a once in a
00:08:38.020 generation negotiation. For the first time in 40 years, we're renegotiating our North American
00:08:43.180 context. That's been what's happening over the last few years. This has been predictable for us.
00:08:47.580 What that means is that while one arrangement, which was formed at the end of the Cold War,
00:08:51.880 with the end of the Soviets, the Soviet empire.
00:08:55.060 A new arrangement is being formed for North America
00:08:57.420 and arrangements around the world are being negotiated, to your point.
00:09:00.560 As a result of the rise of Beijing, their challenge to our supply chains,
00:09:04.320 the weaponization of their commerce, of energy, of technology, of investment,
00:09:10.760 what that would have meant for Canada is to actually take these negotiations seriously
00:09:14.760 and to remember that our geography defines our national and economic security.
00:09:19.460 And the liberals will claim that, like, one, they'll be like, oh, he's being so weak, he's saying our geography is, like, defining how we should be shaping our trade policy.
00:09:30.120 It's like, yes, that's not weak to say.
00:09:32.800 And by the way, like, I want to go back to the exact quote he had there just so I'm accurate.
00:09:37.400 And to remember that our geography, Canada, is to actually take these negotiations seriously.
00:09:42.840 Yeah, so he's right.
00:09:44.240 Carney's not been taking this seriously, but what the liberals have been doing and how they
00:09:47.800 trick their base is that they kind of pantomime seriousness. They are good at pretending to be
00:09:53.500 serious because elbows up sounds serious. You know, you're going to elbow a guy in the face.
00:09:57.680 You're going to go into the boards, elbows up against the Americans. That sounds super,
00:10:01.780 super serious. So where is it? Where's Carney in the Oval Office jabbing at Trump saying,
00:10:07.160 hey, we're the best trade partners. Why are you, what, do you want to empower China by doing this?
00:10:10.940 hey i'll triple my tariffs on you if you try and tariff us like he wasn't that that would actually
00:10:15.740 be maybe a slightly workable version of elbows up if you kind of act like the crazy guy in the room
00:10:20.860 that if you don't drop the tariffs i'm going to do something flipping insane i'm going to have
00:10:24.400 quadruple tariffs on you or whatever and he never did he would go back home or go to davos and take
00:10:30.660 some anti-american jabs that make him seem serious like oh look he's putting trump on notice but then
00:10:35.740 when it actually comes to negotiations he doesn't show up he doesn't make any threats he doesn't
00:10:39.660 make any demands. His concessions are given away for free. And it's like, so how can a liberal,
00:10:45.860 again, if they were watching this, how could they actually disagree with Mr. Majumdar here?
00:10:51.040 He's absolutely right. They've not been taking it seriously.
00:10:54.560 And to remember that our geography defines our national and economic security. We are North
00:10:59.380 America. We've always had an exceptional arrangement with the United States spanning
00:11:03.340 Republican and Democrat administrations and Congresses. That's the task the prime minister
00:11:08.160 signed up for a year and a half ago. That's a task that we understand as conservatives we had
00:11:12.520 to meet in this moment for our people. And that's why we should always be pursuing an exceptional
00:11:17.360 arrangement in North America for the Canadian worker, for Canadian families, and for Canadian
00:11:21.680 sovereignty. When you say take these negotiations seriously, what specifically do you mean?
00:11:26.460 He means actually show up to the meetings. I always hate this. She knows better than anybody.
00:11:32.900 She is a reporter who is usually often based in Washington, D.C.
00:11:37.200 She knows how little there's actually been in terms of progress.
00:11:40.160 She knows that Carney's only really visited a couple times.
00:11:43.180 Dominic LeBlanc isn't even often there all that often.
00:11:46.260 And they are absolutely opaque with how the negotiations are going because they don't want to admit that either they're making concessions for nothing or they've basically just been sitting around drinking coffee and eating donuts and getting nothing done.
00:11:58.420 And she's actually like, well, what do you mean by serious?
00:12:00.320 What do you mean by serious?
00:12:01.260 I mean progress and progress that's beneficial to us, not simply keeping things at the awful status quo they currently are at because we waited too long to actually use leverage.
00:12:12.800 Is that that you do not think the Carney government is taking the negotiation seriously?
00:12:16.420 I'm not confident based on what I'm hearing or what you might be hearing and what I'm hearing reports that we're seeing anything materially different from what was on the table back in October.
00:12:23.660 I don't understand what these so-called negotiations have produced that's materially different over the last year and a half.
00:12:29.360 What gains have been won for Canadians?
00:12:31.260 All we have seen are concessions after concessions after concessions, whether it's rightful ones
00:12:35.760 like on the defense of our border, the thickening of our border, or on repealing the Netflix
00:12:41.820 tax, or wrongful ones like the Gordie Howe Bridge, where we're paying the Americans
00:12:46.320 before we could pay back ourselves for the debt that incurred on building the bridge.
00:12:50.240 What I've seen instead in Prime Minister Carney and Minister LeBlanc and his ministers
00:12:54.020 and the cabinet is a march to Beijing, a march to organize European and middle-powered
00:13:00.920 diplomacy, proposing fantastical ideas like synthetic currencies with Europe to counter
00:13:07.840 the American dollar, not focusing on the big decisions we need to do domestically, at least
00:13:13.380 at a minimum, let's give the benefit of the doubt that the government should diversify
00:13:17.060 our markets.
00:13:18.020 We should also be pursuing diversity in the American market.
00:13:21.140 Where have the march of cabinet ministers been?
00:13:24.300 To California, Florida, Texas, New York, to the industrial heartland, which is impacted
00:13:30.320 by our agriculture and manufacturing potential?
00:13:32.680 Where has been the intensity
00:13:33.740 that a government should be bringing to bear
00:13:36.000 in defense of the Canadian worker?
00:13:38.380 I think that conservatives would have managed
00:13:40.580 this entire crisis very differently
00:13:42.820 to the benefit of our country,
00:13:44.700 our people, and our sovereignty.
00:13:47.200 I'm just going to take a second here to say like no notes.
00:13:49.740 I have nothing to add to what he said.
00:13:51.740 I thought that was perfect.
00:13:52.800 Now, I think she's going to zoom in on like,
00:13:54.280 what do you mean by rightful concessions
00:13:56.080 and wrongful concessions?
00:13:57.480 And obviously he means like nobody likes the Netflix acts,
00:13:59.480 nobody likes the dst duct tape those two things together and say hey i'll give you these two
00:14:03.080 things if you eliminate your uh tariffs on aluminum like you could do stuff like that like things that
00:14:07.800 we are clearly willing to give up i think most canadians are willing to give up supply management
00:14:12.200 and that's a big one you could probably get a lot of this these tariffs wiped out by just getting
00:14:16.760 rid of supply management because it would help out trump in the kind of rust belt areas you know
00:14:22.440 you would help out with like Republican Congress, congressional candidates in those Midwestern
00:14:30.400 states that want to be able to send dairy into Canada. And like, yeah, like, and by the way,
00:14:34.660 Canadian dairy is more, is more subsidized than American dairy. So the idea that if we wiped out
00:14:40.900 the current just restrictions on American dairy imports, if they were starting to outcompete our
00:14:45.500 people, it's because our own regulations and our own bad market has made it very uncompetitive that
00:14:50.820 even though we subsidize it, they can still beat us. But that's another topic for another day.
00:14:55.620 But I have to just comment on the fact that Shavloy Majumdar is extremely, extremely good at
00:15:01.660 this. I think this is honestly one of the best post-2025 election decisions that Pierre Polyev
00:15:08.200 has made is making him the critic for Canada-US relations, because I could actually see liberals
00:15:15.460 watching the CBC, watching him in his very pointed, but nice tone and realize like he's
00:15:21.200 kind of right, you know, because you don't need everyone to like turn on Carney and think he's
00:15:24.520 an idiot overnight. You just need them to hear someone like Chavloy talking and think, well,
00:15:29.880 you know, kind of right. You know, Carney kind of promised that he was going to be able to get
00:15:33.820 the tariffs off. He's dealt with Donald Trump before, apparently. And like a year and a half
00:15:37.940 of Carney being scared of his own shadow, unwilling to actually play hardball with Trump
00:15:42.340 and then just giving him concessions for absolutely nothing in return.
00:15:46.340 Now let's get to Katie Simpson trying to poke a hole in what he said.
00:15:49.300 Something you said in that answer stands out to me.
00:15:51.360 You're talking about concessions and you sort of categorize them as good concessions and bad concessions.
00:15:56.500 And I don't think I've heard that from the conservatives yet.
00:15:59.560 You talk about the Gordie Howe, the concessions there when it comes to the revenues.
00:16:03.580 You classified that as a bad one.
00:16:05.360 But other concessions you think are good concessions?
00:16:08.080 What do you mean by that?
00:16:09.000 For the last decade, Katie, we've seen our country in a form of managed decline.
00:16:14.780 We've seen a trillion dollars of capital flow from Canada to the United States in the last decade.
00:16:19.100 In the last year, over $100 billion.
00:16:21.840 Manufacturing sector, not impacted by the tariff, over 42% to 43% of the manufacturing sector is looking at shutting down and domiciling in the United States.
00:16:30.340 We're seeing a country that's borders became porous over the last decade.
00:16:34.180 Our capital markets or real estate markets are snow-washed with illicit capital.
00:16:38.140 We've seen our country abrogate its responsibility to itself.
00:16:42.920 So when I say that there are hard and good decisions that Canada should have been making,
00:16:46.880 those decisions should be made in the context of a North American negotiation with Washington and with the world.
00:16:52.440 And that's not what we've seen as the kind of backbone we expect the Canadian government to have on behalf of the Canadian people.
00:16:58.420 But does the Conservative Party see some concessions as good concessions versus...
00:17:02.760 She's trying to turn this... You see what she's trying to do here?
00:17:05.300 this is kind of weaselly on behalf of katie simpson she's trying to make it seem like see
00:17:09.820 the conservatives are the party of making concessions see they're saying certain
00:17:13.220 concessions are good it's like it's a negotiation you might have to make some concessions and if
00:17:19.020 there were certain taxes we had on our economy that the americans want to wipe out that weren't
00:17:23.660 even good for us in the first place that our consumers didn't even like in the first place
00:17:27.300 that seems like a good concession that seems like one that's a rightful one to make but she's trying
00:17:32.160 to kind of like paint the conservatives like kind of like you know make that slight implication the
00:17:35.720 audience like look how weak they are saying there's certain types of concessions that are good
00:17:38.800 I'm like does this somehow like does this somehow like get Carney off the hook for making all sorts
00:17:46.600 of concessions just because he hasn't come out and said that some concessions are good or bad
00:17:51.100 he's making them and he's making many bad ones but somehow we're going to punish Chevalier
00:17:56.880 Majumdar and the conservatives for being clear-eyed enough to be able to categorize things that are
00:18:01.240 actually pretty okay to give up in favor of something in return, especially if nobody really
00:18:06.160 liked these things in the first place and they were hurting the economy.
00:18:09.640 This is a bad concession.
00:18:10.340 Oh yeah, the leader has made it very clear.
00:18:11.960 Like we needed to repeal the digital service tax and the Netflix tax.
00:18:15.180 We needed to thicken our border.
00:18:16.580 We needed to make all of these choices and rebuilding our defense industrial base, all
00:18:22.020 the things that we've been recommending for over a decade.
00:18:24.440 These are all decisions that Canadians needed to make, that the government needed to take.
00:18:28.100 Peer Polly have won the consensus on that direction of our country in the last election.
00:18:32.400 Liberals were maybe inspired by the things that we've been talking about.
00:18:35.660 And those are good decisions that we should have married into a negotiation from North America.
00:18:40.860 When Jameson Greer, who's a U.S. trade representative, when a question was put to him in the past six weeks or so,
00:18:47.500 saying, you know, why is it that the Americans have not given Canada credit for some of those concessions they've made?
00:18:53.080 And he made the argument, you know, when you make a mess of something, you don't get rewarded when you clean it up.
00:18:58.760 I'm very curious. What do you make of when he says things like that?
00:19:01.900 I don't. That's such a that is, again, a subterraneanly low excuse for the liberals.
00:19:09.660 You know, the U.S. Trade Representative Jameson Greer said that we didn't get credit for some of the things that we gave up in the past.
00:19:15.460 The implication being, isn't the Trump administration so bad? Aren't they so awful to deal with?
00:19:20.660 you can't work with these people. They're not giving us credit for our previous concessions.
00:19:24.800 And it's like, no, you didn't earn concessions. You didn't earn something in return. If you gave
00:19:30.540 it up and you transferred something to them or you scrapped something to them without having
00:19:35.860 them sign on the dotted line saying, you're also going to get rid of this for us before we give it
00:19:39.680 up. That's Carney's fault. It's like we're acting like Trump is the big brother to Carney and he's
00:19:47.080 not letting him win. I'm like, I'm sorry, this is a rough and tumble world, Mr. Prime Minister.
00:19:52.780 If you are giving things up in a negotiation with no expectation to get something in return,
00:19:58.220 with no legally binding requirement for them to lower a tariff or eliminate one,
00:20:04.540 you're an idiot. You're a fool being taken advantage of. This goes back to my analogy
00:20:10.160 that Mark Carney is a broken vending machine and President Trump is kicking it to get free
00:20:15.180 Soto's out of it. Of course, he's going to keep kicking Canada and taking jabs at us and making
00:20:20.680 threats if he knows that Carney just jumps, freaks out, and then just gives him something.
00:20:25.120 Oh, please don't do that. And then gives Trump something in return. It's like,
00:20:28.740 oh my goodness, you're bad at this. You can tell that he only was successful in the private sector
00:20:35.420 at Brookfield because Brookfield was good at cornering the market with the liberal government
00:20:41.460 getting subsidies, grants, and tax breaks. He is a subsidy monger. He was never going to perform
00:20:49.440 well as prime minister on the economy or trade because he has always been somebody only succeeding
00:20:55.500 because of the kindness of strangers, because of the kindness of liberal insiders giving his company
00:21:01.080 massive subsidies for like green energy projects or grants or tax breaks. That's the only reason
00:21:08.060 he was successful at Brookfield because of government graft and corruption. You can't
00:21:12.640 then make that guy the head of an economy and assume that economy is going to go great guns
00:21:17.180 because who's subsidizing you? You're literally the subsidy machine. No one's going to come out
00:21:22.460 and prop up your economy. It's foolish. But anyways, let's keep going with this thing.
00:21:29.340 But I'll let Chauveloy answer that question now. But it's so dumb. Oh, Jameson Greer said we don't
00:21:34.980 get credit well yeah you didn't get credit you know like oh well we let them score on our goal
00:21:39.860 and they didn't let us score on their goal oh wow i can't believe that happened really have a lot of
00:21:47.240 time to comment about what the ustr might have to say about canadian politics that's not my business
00:21:52.540 my role is to advocate for canadian workers for canadian families and for canadian sovereignty
00:21:57.920 and independent of whatever comes out of washington whether it's right or wrong
00:22:01.380 and what comes out of America, which is a big, diverse country with a wide-ranging set of views,
00:22:07.680 I know what we need to deliver for Canadians.
00:22:10.340 I know what a serious negotiation looks like, and I have to go talk to the workers,
00:22:13.840 the families, and the people who are anxious because they don't have a deal.
00:22:16.480 Okay, on that point, August 19th, our reporting here at CBC News indicates that the Canadians
00:22:21.360 expressed to the Americans, they say, look, if these tariffs come into effect,
00:22:25.120 this is a make-or-break moment.
00:22:26.540 There's going to be no political appetite in Canada to keep negotiating
00:22:29.960 if you hit us with another another tariff she's trying to like create like this artificial like
00:22:35.720 tough talk position from the canadian government like no the carney and the liberals are not like
00:22:40.600 threatening the americans and saying if you do this we're so done here i'm like clearly that's
00:22:45.480 not what has happened over time they have clearly caved every single time and we are currently in
00:22:50.360 the process of caving but she's acted she's trying to make an elbows up appeal for the nothing that
00:22:56.200 the liberals have done well they're kind of informing the americans if you keep doing this
00:23:01.080 we're going to wet our pants and the canadian people are not going to have it it's like
00:23:05.480 okay katie okay i'm i i'm just actually going to skip ahead now because this goes absolutely
00:23:11.400 nowhere as you might assume we're going to jump to the next panel uh that katie uh simpson is
00:23:18.200 is like putting on here this is where the liberal is on the panel there's some conservatives here
00:23:23.320 two I believe but the the liberal on the panel admits that Carney has screwed this whole thing
00:23:28.600 up going to Italy on vacation yes it's a vacation just because he's still working doesn't mean it's
00:23:34.520 not a vacation there's no such thing as a world leader that really goes on vacation unless you're
00:23:38.760 like the president of like in a country of only like a few hundred thousand people then it might
00:23:44.260 be a light enough duty job you could go halfway around the world nobody would notice you're gone
00:23:48.260 Every world leader works when they're on vacation, but he is on vacation. He is away from the capital. He is away from the negotiations. He's keeping tabs on them, but he's not really present. He's not really adding his commander and chief or kind of hat into the fold here. He's not adding his charisma and his magnetism to it. He's on the other side of the world. It's pathetic.
00:24:11.880 But now let's jump over to this panel where none of the liberals are really even capable of making excuses anymore.
00:24:19.640 Vandana Katar was an advisor to former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
00:24:24.220 Here with me in studio, Kate Harrison is a conservative political analyst.
00:24:28.060 And Rob Russo is the Canada correspondent for The Economist.
00:24:30.860 And every single time, Rob, you're here, I always say.
00:24:33.360 So let's be very clear.
00:24:34.920 Katie Simpson is a liberal.
00:24:37.640 the lady she introduced her she is a true she is a trudeau advisor
00:24:43.780 kate harrison she is a conservative she's a good conservative really good on this panel
00:24:49.460 and this other guy rob or whatever he's also a liberal it's the economist it's he's a liberal
00:24:55.620 time now for the power panel vandana katar is a was an advisor to former prime minister
00:25:00.940 justin trudeau here with me in studio kate harrison is a conservative political analyst
00:25:05.480 and Rob Russo is the Canada Correspondent.
00:25:07.700 Yeah, Rob Russo.
00:25:08.520 But yeah, The Economist is a very left paper.
00:25:12.000 He is a liberal.
00:25:13.200 This is a panel where three quarters of those sitting on it
00:25:17.080 are a liberal and know the host is never neutral.
00:25:19.480 We already saw the questions she was asking
00:25:21.560 to Shivaloy Majumdar to make implied defenses
00:25:24.620 for Mark Carney.
00:25:26.320 And I know that sometimes there's that devil's advocate
00:25:29.080 kind of aspect to a host,
00:25:32.340 but that's never what the CBC is doing
00:25:33.780 because what she was saying was just excuses.
00:25:36.820 It was never saying,
00:25:37.780 well, the liberals would say this about themselves.
00:25:39.940 That's a more honest way of doing it.
00:25:41.500 You're saying this is what your opponent would say.
00:25:44.080 Now you're not saying that this is like an objective take.
00:25:47.060 It's not, this is a good way of looking at it.
00:25:49.140 They're saying this is what they would argue.
00:25:50.820 So immediately people understand it's a partisan defense
00:25:53.360 or it's a partisan attack on what Chevaloy would be saying.
00:25:57.360 No, no, she's pretending like,
00:25:58.960 well, Jameson Greer said we don't get credit.
00:26:01.400 no that's what liberals have been claiming is unfair is that jameson greer isn't giving it to
00:26:06.980 them objectively you would say well why does that matter shouldn't you guys have gotten some credit
00:26:13.200 like why do we why is that an assumed thing that he should be giving us something in return
00:26:17.560 if you didn't secure it but now let's get into this panel respondent for the economist and every
00:26:22.440 single time rob you're here i always say you're my former boss you're the former bureau chief here
00:26:26.860 and and somehow i'm i'm not vilified for it oh my goodness i'm vilifying you for it right now
00:26:33.900 that's right all right um let's start uh because today uh it is um uh pierre paulia was out today
00:26:41.980 kate i want to start with you uh what do you make of uh this new line of attack against the
00:26:45.660 government in terms of the way that the negotiations are going i think by the way not a new line of
00:26:49.900 attack they have been saying this from the beginning i think the conservatives around 2025
00:26:55.100 of like right before and after the election they got a little elbows up in a way that i wasn't
00:27:00.000 appreciative of i don't think they understood how to make the more nuanced sort of pitch that like
00:27:05.760 guys we can we can not be anti-american and also play hardball that that's kind of what they need
00:27:10.580 to do but pretty quickly they've always been saying hey let's fix the economy let's do let's
00:27:17.220 engage in tax reform regulatory reform let's build up leverage and at the same time be doing
00:27:22.560 hardball negotiations in order to reduce these tariffs as much as possible. They've not shifted,
00:27:27.600 but it's always the implication that, oh, Poliev's not known what he's talking about,
00:27:31.640 and now he's walking out of the shadows saying that he could have done this better.
00:27:35.480 He's been saying this the entire time. He didn't just come up with this five seconds ago.
00:27:38.580 I think that Poliev is right to focus on the time that has been wasted and passed since
00:27:45.540 these negotiations began. Really, what we're seeing reported, Katie, in the media
00:27:51.540 is not all that different than a lot of the terms that were being discussed last October.
00:27:55.960 So it begs the question, what has the government been up to in that time?
00:28:00.020 And when we think about the approach that hasn't worked,
00:28:02.360 it has been this piecemeal kind of sectoral-based approach,
00:28:06.760 you know, alcohol here, concession there.
00:28:09.540 And I think in the absence of a bigger and better trade deal,
00:28:13.880 it's going to be very difficult to rationalize to Canadians
00:28:16.580 and perhaps more acutely to premiers
00:28:18.460 that this is in the best interest of all parties.
00:28:22.500 Vandana, what do you make of it?
00:28:24.180 I think it was actually Mr. Poilier trying to get into the conversation, really.
00:28:28.680 She's going off of what Katie Simpson said.
00:28:30.700 Cutter here is like, oh, well, you know what?
00:28:32.520 I think he's trying to get into the conversation as if he's somehow been like way off over there,
00:28:37.600 not doing anything for anybody.
00:28:39.360 Now he's suddenly trying to show up and give advice to the prime minister.
00:28:43.620 He's been doing this the entire time.
00:28:45.760 I'm sorry that these people who apparently are on the news don't watch the news,
00:28:50.300 but Polly has been doing this the entire time and has been right for doing it,
00:28:53.600 especially since making Chevalier Majumdar the Canada-U.S. relations critic.
00:28:59.920 They've been very focused on the whole idea that the liberal government has been wasting time
00:29:05.520 not playing hard while making concessions while taking anti-American jabs that don't help.
00:29:10.000 You say, well, the Americans have been mean to us.
00:29:12.120 Okay, and how are the jabs helping?
00:29:14.040 I'm not saying you have to be nice to them, but they're not even being like jabby, but also playing hardball. They're being jabby and cowards. So like what? But I hate this whole implication. Where's Polly have been this entire time? Oh, he's just only showing up now. No, that's a great line if you want to excuse the failures of the liberals, but that's not true.
00:29:33.880 think of it i think it was actually mr poiliev trying to get into the conversation really
00:29:38.640 um i think last year during the election i mean people chose that mr carney would be the best
00:29:44.020 person to try to get a deal i think largely especially look at the polling canadians are
00:29:48.420 behind the the opportunity he's presenting right now oh the polls guys oh don't worry about it
00:29:53.940 guys the polls they're heading the polls oh they screwed up everything they metaphorically just
00:29:59.100 poured tomato soup all over their white pants? Well, the polls, everyone. Did you see the new
00:30:03.760 Ecos poll? Did you see the new Ecos poll? Did you see the new Research Co poll? Did you see the new
00:30:08.440 Nanos poll? They're ahead. They're ahead by 20 points. Ergo, who cares that they screwed up?
00:30:12.780 We have a crappy pollster that shows the liberals are ahead. And I'm just going to show this. I was
00:30:18.680 going to maybe do a separate video on it. The new Research Co poll is hot garbage. It has the
00:30:23.860 liberals 47 and the conservatives 27 but here is like a telltale sign it's a bad poll manitoba
00:30:29.300 saskatchewan being won by the liberals by 13 points no no do you have you ever been to saskatchewan
00:30:38.660 the liberals are not popular in saskatchewan certain parts of manitoba they can win seats
00:30:44.160 winnipeg northern manitoba they can definitely do that that is their good part of the prairies
00:30:49.960 But overall, conservatives are super popular in southern Manitoba, and they're popular pretty much everywhere in Saskatchewan, outside of the most northern Saskatchewan riding, that has just a very heavy reserve First Nations population that can go liberal, but oftentimes it still goes conservative anyways.
00:31:06.980 It's just more of a divided area.
00:31:09.020 It's just so dumb that we're citing polls.
00:31:11.600 Oh, you know, the liberals are ahead in the polls.
00:31:14.160 All these crappy polls that just came out.
00:31:15.880 Yeah, the liberals are super popular.
00:31:18.020 Abacus and Angus don't say so, and they're far more consistent with their numbers over time.
00:31:22.560 I think people know that negotiations are long, and we saw this last time as well.
00:31:27.580 Are they? Can we just say that negotiations are long to make up for the fact that we've been blowing past deadlines and screwing this whole thing up?
00:31:36.300 Apparently, if your child is just not getting their book report done, they can just come to you and say, look, book reports take time.
00:31:42.720 hey mom hey dad yeah i'm like a week and a half late to handing this thing in
00:31:47.480 but you know writing's hard you know everything's on computers now it's all complicated it takes a
00:31:52.940 while for trump he escalates uh threats as a way to get negotiations going to maybe try to get
00:31:59.220 more of his cards on the table so you've seen this before it's going to happen again i think
00:32:04.040 the positive thing is that dominic leblanc and janice charrette have been in the washington
00:32:08.780 both last week and this week oh wow they're down in washington wow they're they're staying out of
00:32:13.620 hotels in washington and eating breakfast in hotels that's great that's really good dominic
00:32:18.960 leblanc's down there well case solved mystery solved this whole thing's going to be over in
00:32:24.620 like five minutes because dominic leblanc is now is now is now sitting around having coffee with
00:32:30.120 american negotiators when he should have been doing this a year ago i think people know that
00:32:35.120 you know, a diplomacy is going to be a two-way street. There's going to be give and take.
00:32:40.400 And there's going to be a lot of backseat driving from the opposition on this. But I think for the
00:32:44.100 most part, Canadians are comfortable and they're willing to wait and see, especially as they see
00:32:48.120 more pressure on the U.S. You saw two unions write to Donald Trump as well, talking about
00:32:52.580 they're asking to reconsider the tariffs. So I think people know that if we wait a bit longer,
00:32:56.660 perhaps we can get a better deal for Canada. Rob, is that why we're making concessions for
00:33:01.400 nothing leading up to this because more time is helping out so much but now let's get to rob russo
00:33:06.760 here who actually i think does pour a bit of cold water on the liberal position what do you make of
00:33:10.720 the moment uh i think the moment is late i i wonder why mr poise didn't make this intervention
00:33:16.960 a year ago or a year and a half ago during the one he was and two people like flipping rob and
00:33:23.840 katie simpson and david cocken and rosemary barton were attacking him saying why are you getting in
00:33:29.060 the way of mark carney why are you contradicting the canadian position we should be canda strong
00:33:34.480 he was always doing it but even rob who's going to admit here in a bit that carney's been screwing
00:33:39.640 it up he is also he he's still like at some point blaming pollia for not do like taking control of
00:33:45.960 the wheel from carney like carney screws up and it's pollio's fault for not telling him that he
00:33:51.060 was screwing it up even though he actually was but whatever i i apparently i just have an imperfect
00:33:56.640 memory of the news cycle unlike rob russo election campaign i think it would have been more
00:34:01.440 politically fruitful for him to do that as it stands now it seems to ring uh and mr polioff
00:34:08.240 is a churchillian so i'll try to echo churchill it's is it just me or he seems so uncomfortable
00:34:14.560 saying all these things like he knows he's lying about polioff he's like looking around the table
00:34:19.280 rather than looking at any of the other panelists or katie simpson who is the actual host of the
00:34:25.760 show like just scanning his eyes around well you know i thought thought um uh yeah polyev should
00:34:30.280 have been it would have been more politically fruitful for him to have been making this pitch
00:34:33.500 like a year ago like what are you doing rob like stand by your position with a little bit of
00:34:38.020 confidence you've been on tv before seems to be offering all aid short of help um it it he's not
00:34:44.940 offering carney help he did you know what carney did after he offered him help like accused the
00:34:51.340 conservatives are being pro-american and then taking some of his MPs and having them cross the
00:34:56.060 floor after offering them goodies like oh I wonder why Polioff's not helping anymore and he actually
00:35:01.100 is helping but he's not like directly wanting to like apparently he has to join the government or
00:35:05.640 he's not helping. Churchill it seems to be offering all aid short of help um it it uh it would it would
00:35:12.820 seem it would seem that the government is prepared to give up certain things but only in the event of
00:35:19.320 comprehensive deal i think it's right that uh that they they have been like gumby bending over
00:35:26.360 backwards and gotten absolutely nothing in return uh and it it appears that the prime minister no
00:35:34.100 longer wants to give away what he calls and what is it trade negotiators are calling gold coins
00:35:38.460 they no longer want to give away any of the gold coins unless there is a comprehensive
00:35:43.080 are does it seem that way mr rob does it like no it doesn't they've been giving away gold coins up
00:35:51.460 until flipping five seconds ago and you're like well they're not going to give away anymore because
00:35:55.380 it seems like they're not like well you know someone's you know past performance tends to
00:36:01.520 be a good predictor of future performance and the current what we're currently hearing is that we're
00:36:08.640 about to give away more gold coins to simply not have 50% tariffs on 5% more of our exports,
00:36:15.300 not even trying to reduce the current tariffs. Maybe they'll reduce them a bit, but my goodness,
00:36:21.800 if we reduce them even a bit, if it's not massive, it's been such a wasted opportunity that we're at
00:36:27.120 this point, we might reduce them by like 10%. And even that has not been reported by any media that
00:36:31.680 we're going to do that. The CBC was the outlet who reported on, who followed up on the Globe and
00:36:37.320 mails reporting of saying that we were going to give up certain things around like slightly
00:36:41.200 softening supply management and giving up some other stuff about auto tariffs and booze and the
00:36:45.920 only thing we were getting was trying to deflect the upcoming tariffs that was it and yet rob russo
00:36:52.660 with no information just running around saying don't worry carney's now stiffening stiffening
00:36:57.140 his neck i'm like you just said he was gumby five seconds ago what implicate what any what is the
00:37:02.680 evidence that he is actually stiffening at all to deal and if there is a comprehensive deal then
00:37:08.600 it would make sense uh to give away some stuff that you're probably going to give away anyway
00:37:13.980 in other instances i also was struck by the intervention of the representative from the
00:37:19.360 quebec government i think it's indicative of how much things have changed in these negotiations
00:37:24.600 compared to past negotiations when uh provinces who represent regional interests not the national
00:37:31.720 interests, were kept well-informed, well-briefed, and well away from the cabinet table. They seem
00:37:37.480 to have an inordinate amount of say in what the national government is going to do. And I think
00:37:42.940 it's inevitable that somebody like Donald Trump is going to do nothing but feast on the differences
00:37:48.900 between the national government and the provincial governments. Trade talks are expected to pick up
00:37:54.340 again this week. Janice Charette is in Washington, D.C. right now, but we got a statement from
00:37:59.920 Dominic LeBlanc's office. He was on his way to Washington today. I don't know if this is
00:38:04.560 something symbolic or something bigger picture. There's something to take away from this, but
00:38:08.480 there's nothing to take away. He's been there several times and it's really not
00:38:12.760 resulted in anything. He's both been there a lot, but also not been there a lot because it's never
00:38:18.080 really resulted in anything. I'm going to jump over to her getting a little bit more into her
00:38:23.320 actual question because she rambles here as the host, but let's go to her going back to Kate
00:38:27.500 harrison here at cbc uh sources have expressed to us the canadians made it very clear to the
00:38:32.940 americans that if these new tariffs come to effect on uh august 19th that it's sort of a
00:38:39.240 make or break moment that canada is not there's not going to be the political space in canada to
00:38:43.040 keep negotiating we haven't been negotiating like again we keep acting like there's some like big
00:38:48.680 threat coming out of the carny liberals or whatever like you know if you put more tariffs
00:38:53.120 on us it's going to take off canadians all the elbows up canadians are already ticked off i
00:38:57.300 don't like the tariffs either. But I'm not going to blame Trump more at this point for the fact
00:39:03.020 that our own side has been absolutely incompetent in negotiating. If they hit Canada with this next
00:39:09.300 round of tariffs, if there isn't tariff relief, if they don't go away, is it time to retaliate and
00:39:16.480 step up the retaliation? I think before crossing that bridge, you really need to exhaust all
00:39:20.900 options like this tariff dispute is painful for for everyone uh which is again why i come back to
00:39:27.620 you know the the time that could have been taken 10 months ago to sit down and have these
00:39:33.860 conversations of substance excuse me compared to compared to now again the terms haven't really
00:39:39.540 changed based on the reporting in terms of what's being discussed and on the table
00:39:43.380 um to know that our government kind of faffed about for the last 10 months without discussing
00:39:48.900 these items of substance should be really concerning, particularly to sectoral workers
00:39:52.960 who are looking for that relief. And she's absolutely right. You can't say,
00:39:57.740 I can't believe the Americans are escalating so much when, again, like she said, the Canadian
00:40:03.400 government's been faffing around, not getting anything done and giving up goodies all the way
00:40:07.180 along. Trump effectively is just doing what like even an animal would do. If you press a button
00:40:13.440 and you get something and you get like a free treat, he's going to keep hitting the button.
00:40:17.520 This is just basic human psychology. If you are getting concessions from the Canadian government by threatening them, pushing them, and then maybe even walking back, you're not going to actually do the additional threats, but you got something and you didn't even really want to put more stuff on us. You're going to keep doing it.
00:40:32.500 But they keep acting as if it's the Americans that at some point here have to do something for Canada.
00:40:38.120 They don't have to do anything for us.
00:40:39.520 It's not because I don't want them to do something for us.
00:40:41.580 I want Canada to get out of this.
00:40:43.340 But we have to stop making these dumb excuses that somehow the Americans are supposed to have the best interests of Canada at heart.
00:40:50.600 I think the tariffs aren't even good for the American economy overall.
00:40:53.780 But, like, again, why are we suddenly always deflecting blame for what's going on towards America and not towards the Canadian government who is in control of how we respond to these things?
00:41:05.380 And our only response has basically been jabs and cowardice at the same time.
00:41:10.220 So, you know, I think rather than focus on, OK, well, what negative retaliation could we deploy?
00:41:16.320 Every effort needs to be made to try and secure the best possible outcome for workers.
00:41:21.140 And that includes a prime minister who is engaged consistently, and I find it very odd that he would take this particular week to choose to go to Italy for reduced hours, vacation, it depends on which outlet that you're looking at.
00:41:37.020 But I think that given he put up his hand for this specific job, not the job of a prime minister, prime ministers are entitled to take some time off and vacation.
00:41:44.940 But this specific moment with a 50 percent tariff hanging overhead for 20 billion dollars of impacted goods to be overseas, I think sends entirely the wrong message to workers that are begging for his leadership at a time that he committed to do that for Canadians.
00:41:58.940 And that is a good way of putting it, because no one's saying that the prime minister can't go on a vacation, you know, having reduced hours and whatnot.
00:42:05.520 You can't really ever go on a full vacation, but sitting on a beach every once in a while is not something I'm going to ever get mad at that a prime minister does.
00:42:12.480 Now, people criticize Trudeau because it was constant vacations all the time while the economy was sucking.
00:42:16.620 So it was symbolically bad looking.
00:42:19.000 But she is right that like if you were to not, but Carney is entitled to take a vacation at some point.
00:42:26.120 This is his keystone promise was dealing with the trade issue.
00:42:29.380 And you're vacationing during the trade dispute, like during the hottest moment of it all.
00:42:34.920 Like, what is going on here?
00:42:37.200 It's like he's lost confidence even in himself.
00:42:40.440 Andana, what do you make of the point that Kate just made?
00:42:42.900 I think Canadians have seen leadership from this prime minister.
00:42:46.340 You know, we've seen...
00:42:47.140 Oh, my goodness.
00:42:47.880 We've seen leadership from this prime minister.
00:42:49.840 Guys, I'm not going to do this for the rest.
00:42:52.060 I just want to jump ahead to Rob Russo.
00:42:54.280 We do not need to hear her finish this rambling excuse for Mark Carney.
00:42:59.100 Oh, Canadians have seen leadership.
00:43:00.780 Okay, okay, Cutter, we're moving on.
00:43:03.180 Yes, two words.
00:43:04.560 Justin Trudeau, I don't understand why a subsequent Prime Minister would not have learned the lesson
00:43:10.960 that it may be not as glamorous, but while you're the Prime Minister of Canada, particularly at a
00:43:16.960 time when Canadians are deciding that they're going to vacation closer to home, that you would
00:43:21.920 vacation closer to home. The other thing I would point out is that there are 20,000 people who are
00:43:26.240 being displaced in British Columbia right now, requiring perhaps a military response, a federal
00:43:30.800 military response. Again, I think it would behoove the Prime Minister to be here. And if you're
00:43:36.380 a nosy reporter like me, it just opens up avenues of inquiry. Where's he staying? Who's putting him
00:43:43.680 up? I understand, it seems, the ethics commissioner has cleared him on this. What were the conditions
00:43:50.860 that had to be cleared in order for this to happen? It just, quite frankly, I think it's a
00:43:58.620 kind of a rookie political mistake. You're in Canada. Canadians are staying home. It's a
00:44:03.460 wonderful country to travel. And I think he should probably be here. If you've lost Rob Russo on this
00:44:11.200 point, if you've messed up so badly, he had to disagree with the other liberal in the panel and
00:44:16.520 be like, no, it's a rookie mistake. You should be here. And even he, even though the ethics, I don't
00:44:20.800 even really question the ethics of it all in terms of if this is like, you know, there's a conflict
00:44:26.000 of interest with where he's traveling whatever it doesn't really bother me that much it's more
00:44:30.700 the fact that he's leaving now i don't even mind if you vacation somewhere outside of canada but
00:44:35.340 the liberals are the party of you know of the canada whatever the canada strong pass or whatever
00:44:41.340 to go around and travel around canadian parks and go to st john's and travel to charlottetown and go
00:44:48.040 see the anne of green gables place and whatnot aren't we supposed to be doing that right now
00:44:53.200 Shouldn't he be vacationing up in Dawson City, Yukon or Yellowknife and showing all these great places you can travel around Canada?
00:45:01.140 Again, I don't care, but he's from the Liberal Party who is supposed to care the most out of all Canadians.
00:45:06.860 And you're supposed to vote for them because they care the most.
00:45:10.200 It's so lame, all of this stuff.
00:45:14.260 He's sucked on trade.
00:45:15.940 He has hurt our relations with the Americans.
00:45:18.640 People that say that Trump's hurt our relations with the Americans.
00:45:21.440 Agreed.
00:45:22.460 Yes, I don't like that.
00:45:24.740 So why has he been fumbling the ball even harder?
00:45:27.920 Well, Jameson Greer hasn't been giving us things back in return for making concessions.
00:45:31.720 That's Carney's fault.
00:45:33.420 Yes, if we had agreed to say, hey, we'll give you the 50% revenue sharing with the Gordie Howe bridge,
00:45:39.360 or we'll get rid of the DST, but you have to give us something in return,
00:45:42.380 and they agree, okay, we'll give you this and that,
00:45:44.060 and then we got rid of the DST, then they didn't follow through,
00:45:47.060 that would be a time to actually say, you know what, we're done here.
00:45:49.880 They're not playing with us fairly.
00:45:51.000 And if you actually revealed that happened, it didn't happen. But if that did happen, you reveal it publicly. The American people would actually start turning really hard on the Trump administration saying, hey, this stuff is causing our costs on the shelves to go up and you're messing around like wrong footing Canada.
00:46:07.900 that would hurt them. But the problem is Carney hasn't been using any rhetorical leverage,
00:46:13.360 any economic leverage, nothing, nothing. And by the way, all these trade agreements that he's
00:46:18.740 been signing around the world have like all the ones that he's saying are going to help us
00:46:23.380 diversify our trade. Now, our trade is technically diversified, but it's more so because it's more
00:46:28.100 expensive to export into the United States. We've been kind of like exporting with our partners
00:46:33.380 that we already have around the world more, you know, just taking these goods that you can get
00:46:36.780 more money for in the UK because of the tariffs now. We've been shipping things to Australia,
00:46:40.920 New Zealand, Japan more simply because, hey, if that product, that steel, that lumber can get you
00:46:47.500 more money in Japan, okay, we'll ship it there instead. But in terms of new trade deals and
00:46:52.240 trying to get freer trade with other countries to diversify more, the only one that we have
00:46:56.980 But actually ratified is Indonesia, a country that represents 0.13% of our trade exports.
00:47:08.120 Oh, but guys, we have a new announcement with Benin that, you know, represents 0.005% of all of our exports.
00:47:18.880 oh and in exchange we're going to open up a consulate with a full-time ambassador and staff
00:47:23.600 in that country that we only export to to the tune of 77 million dollars a year
00:47:28.000 good job i don't know what to even say at this point guys like the cbc cannot even make excuses
00:47:35.520 for mark carney's government anymore they're trying but they're not really excuses they're
00:47:39.780 just kind of like making like sounds into the microphone hoping that you're gonna buy you know
00:47:44.540 hoping that you're going to be willing to like concoct your own better reason for why Carney
00:47:49.260 should like get a lot off the hook in your own mind they're just on there be like at some point
00:47:53.700 we'll just replace all these hosts by with someone who's just wearing a liberal party t-shirt who
00:48:00.320 just makes pleasant sounds and then they invite you to make excuses for whatever the liberals did
00:48:05.300 this week okay guys yes the liberals just gave away the province of Manitoba to the Americans
00:48:10.380 for nothing in return. But now you're going to see me do an interpretive dance about the sunshine
00:48:16.340 coming out. And you're going to think about why this makes Mark Carney's, you know, mistakes and
00:48:23.400 failures better. Don't you guys like this? Isn't this really what, isn't this really what you
00:48:28.600 wanted? Didn't you want Manitoba to be then like sold away for pieces? Didn't you want us to sign
00:48:35.520 agreement with china our biggest national security threat because america sucks so let's go partner
00:48:40.960 with you uighur the people slaving uighur muslims who knows who knows whatever just whatever you
00:48:47.040 want guys it's canada well with all that being said thank you guys for watching this video
00:48:53.200 make sure to like share subscribe leave a comment hit the join button if you guys want to support
00:49:00.160 whatever this is can you even call this work i'm just some pathetic you know parasite making videos
00:49:06.800 in a basement somewhere talking about canadian politics you can support choose to support me
00:49:11.360 or choose not to support me you know make your own decisions do you do you think this is an
00:49:15.600 abomination maybe you shouldn't support it if you think it's an abomination but whatever i'm not in
00:49:20.560 charge of your money and if you live in the southwest calgary riding of calgary curry on
00:49:26.000 the board back here and i even moved my camera over so if you live in this riding over here
00:49:32.880 this is calgary west to the west calgary buffalo east you have bow up there you have mountain view
00:49:38.560 over there or varsity no it's mountain view elbow down there it's kind of in the middle of it all
00:49:43.600 i'm going to be running for the ucp nomination out here so if you want to support me in that riding
00:49:48.960 nomination for the UCP in Calgary Curry, check out my website linked at the pinned comment at the
00:49:56.220 top, wyattclaypool.com. I'm going to start trying to call through those people who have signed up
00:50:00.640 on the website who I haven't gotten to yet within the next couple of days or so, just letting you
00:50:04.940 know what I'm doing. We're going to try and take out the incumbent NDP MP here who is out of her
00:50:11.000 mind, literally a drug site and safe supply advocate. And I don't think she's going to have
00:50:16.120 a good re-election time because literally the drug deaths in the city of Calgary have gone down by
00:50:22.440 60% and yet she's still pitching that we should go back to the old NDP way of doing things,
00:50:28.140 you know, drug consumption sites, safe supply, drug houses, letting homeless encamp anywhere.
00:50:34.280 So yeah, with all that being said, thank you guys for watching. Thanks to you for doing all the
00:50:39.380 things. I'm going to line the camera back up so it's set up for next time. I'm being silly at the
00:50:43.420 of this video, but that's just sometimes what happens on the show. So see you guys later.