The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - February 18, 2024


Conservative Party enters the war on Gender Ideology

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Wyatt Claypool
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Danielle Smith Pierre Poilievre Trudeau
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The Conservatives have now entered the war on gender ideology fully. They ve been dipping their toes in the pool, and now they re going for a swim. Today, a bill was introduced in Alberta that would ban the use of hormones and purity blockers on minors, and Justin Trudeau has gone on the offensive about it.

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00:00:00.000 A pretty big victory for the people who support parental rights or against the mutilation of children or medical experiments in children, or anyone who really had an opinion about anything 10 years ago and then looked around and said, where's the world going?
00:00:13.920 The Conservatives have now entered the war on gender ideology fully.
00:00:19.660 You could say the last few weeks they've been dipping their toes in the pool.
00:00:23.000 Now they're going for a swim.
00:00:25.220 You know what I mean by this?
00:00:26.720 So you had Danielle Smith in Alberta, so that's Canada's most conservative province, finally put forward a bill to say, okay, enough with the purity blockers and irreversible surgeries for minors, right?
00:00:41.020 Not banning it for adults, still libertarian, adults can do what they want to do, but we're going to stop children from getting these crazy surgeries.
00:00:48.920 And then Polyev, after sort of being a bit silent on it for a while, then went out and when asked about it, would defend Danielle Smith.
00:00:58.580 And then when asked about it again, he sort of doubled down in his defense of Danielle Smith and sort of continued his defense to a bit more of an attack.
00:01:06.420 One of the things he did say is, you know, the reason why you are not pointing out what is actually in the bill is because you don't want what is described in the bill to be said.
00:01:17.680 That's what he said to a reporter.
00:01:19.140 And that's an important point we'll get into in a bit.
00:01:21.100 But now, today, he has gone into full-on tweeting offensively about it.
00:01:28.220 So here's Polyev's tweet, right?
00:01:30.220 It's not huge.
00:01:31.000 Canadian support, premiss, miss, common sense protections of children.
00:01:34.520 Trudeau must butt out, right?
00:01:36.260 And reposted in the National Post article that nearly half of Canadians support banning surgery and hormones for trans kids.
00:01:42.860 Exclusive poll.
00:01:44.400 Now, the numbers are much likely higher than that.
00:01:46.760 But the important thing to note here is this is Polyev unprompted going on the offensive.
00:01:54.240 And this is what we need if you want to win this argument is a bit of offense here.
00:02:01.320 Because this issue, like many others, but this issue in particular in the political realm is mostly one on framing.
00:02:10.860 And this is something the political left is very, very good at.
00:02:13.380 They take ideas like, hey, we're just going to start performing wild medical experiments on your kids for progressive causes.
00:02:20.760 Now, if anyone is scientifically inclined, you would know there's no way we have any viable long-term studies on the effects of purity blockers, hormone treatments, or surgeries on these kids.
00:02:32.540 And if anything, the early data indicates, well, one, people who get these surgeries are more likely to commit suicide than not.
00:02:38.460 And again, the big scaremonger on this is if you don't go along with what these radicals say about your kids, they will kill themselves.
00:02:45.340 Turns out if you go along with what the radicals say about your kids, they're more likely to kill themselves. 0.87
00:02:49.860 And the vast majority, about 60 to 80 percent of the kids who experience some gender confusion, by the end of puberty, they just come out and realize that they're most likely homosexual.
00:03:00.640 And they come to grips with this and live happy and productive lives.
00:03:05.400 But the way the left has been framing this is, yes, they've used the suicide scaremongering thing, and that's just a lie.
00:03:10.660 But the gender affirming care, health care for transgender youth.
00:03:14.900 Are you against health care for transgender youth?
00:03:17.000 Are you, like, no one would be against that.
00:03:20.100 But are you against medical experiments on kids, removing healthy sexual organs on kids, irreversible hormone therapies, and all this, right?
00:03:29.660 It's how you frame it, right?
00:03:31.960 So if the conservatives have a platform to control the narrative, they're one of the major political parties.
00:03:36.460 If they get out there and offensively frame the narrative around the gender nonsense, much more Canadians will come over to their side.
00:03:46.540 And another thing here, this is, it's not just narrative framing on this, but there's a lot of fear mongering on this.
00:03:52.920 And there's a lot of social anxiety.
00:03:56.200 Let's call it cowardice.
00:03:58.120 Let's just call it what it is.
00:03:58.780 There's a lot of cowardice here.
00:03:59.540 Where people might support this position, but they're afraid to say it because they know it's unpopular and they will be attacked.
00:04:05.300 So if you have the power of institutional backing, i.e. the entire conservative party, you come out on this.
00:04:11.560 You make it much more likely that many other people will join you because they see, oh, there already is a social circle here.
00:04:19.080 And once Canadians, well, any people know that more than 50% of some people believe something, people will just start to believe it.
00:04:27.140 Many people want opinions that go along with the herd.
00:04:29.960 So when you have visible proof, and this is a grateful show, like, oh, no, over half of people think this.
00:04:36.060 A lot of people who support gender ideology, they support it because they think it's what the majority support.
00:04:42.780 So they will shift over.
00:04:44.040 Like, again, these aren't the strongest ideologues that you're fighting, but it is important to win them over nonetheless.
00:04:50.260 So to recap here, you have the conservative party, which is going on the offensive.
00:04:57.220 That's good.
00:04:57.700 It creates social cover, and it also helps frame the narrative here.
00:05:01.960 Because if you're going to win the battle against the radical gender ideologues, it's not going to be won with beta here and saying testosterone numbers, this and this and this and this and that. 1.00
00:05:11.320 It's going to be won by framing it for what it is.
00:05:13.400 It's medical experiments on kids.
00:05:15.320 It's removal of healthy sex organs from children that makes it more likely for them to kill themselves. 0.85
00:05:21.600 And it is a homophobic eugenics program. 0.63
00:05:24.800 These are the types of things that you need to say in order to win over support to your side.
00:05:29.580 And the polling will bear it out that the more people learn about this issue, the more likely they are to side with Danielle Smith.
00:05:36.940 And now, Pierre Polyev.
00:05:38.940 So, well done, conservative party, on figuring this one out.
00:05:42.680 You're a few years late to the party, but better late than never.
00:05:45.920 As long as you got there before 2025, I think everyone will be happy.
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