00:00:28.800and and i appreciate the passion trust me we do appreciate it here on power play one last question
00:00:36.140a few you were part of a government that offshoot in roughly 140 percent increase in the temporary
00:00:42.340migrant workforce between 2006 and 2013 if temporary migration or immigration is putting
00:00:48.500pressure on housing and employment today do you acknowledge that the harper government also
00:00:52.780contributed to expanding canada's reliance on temporary foreign workers i need to give you a
00:00:58.660bit of backstory on what's been happening in this interview up to this point. It's about a 15-minute
00:01:04.580segment. I will be linking the full thing down in the description below and pinning a link to it
00:01:10.220at the top of the comments. Up to this point, he has just been dogging Michelle Rempel to give him
00:01:16.980oddly specific numbers on how many people do you think should be leaving the country and how many
00:01:22.240people do you think should be entering the country every year and just keeps going down rabbit holes
00:01:27.340of how can you criticize Mark Carney and the liberals if you're not telling me the exact
00:01:32.160like decimal point number of reductions in immigration that you're going to be pushing for.
00:01:38.280It was really obnoxious. And then we have this absolutely delusional turn at the end where now
00:01:45.000the anchor here is attempting to, I guess, blame Stephen Harper for the fact that Justin Trudeau
00:01:52.600and Mark Carney have been letting the floodgates just be slammed wide open and allowing anyone to
00:01:59.320come in sight unseen, I actually do think Harper's immigration numbers and temporary foreign worker
00:02:05.520numbers were too high. I think that it should have been lower for a long time. At the same time,
00:02:13.580the blame lands more firmly at the feet of those who have seen it's already a crisis and let it
00:02:19.480keep going immigration was not a crisis back when stephen harper was prime minister
00:02:24.120even if i disagree with how high his levels were but for the rest of this interview it's just
00:02:29.560trying to slam stephen harper and the conservatives on the immigration file
00:02:35.160that trudeau and now mark carney are actively failing on
00:02:38.920dude 2006 called um and you why are you guys asking me about 2006 the economy is
00:02:49.920i'm saying 2006 and 2013 i'm saying between 2006 and 2013 you were elected in 2011 that was part
00:02:59.300of the harper government i'm asking you whether or not you acknowledge that when the conservatives
00:03:03.180were in power that they contributed to part of the problem with the temporary workers
00:03:06.840and the reliance on it. You rightly point out that a number of companies are now relying on it.
00:03:12.080No, no, no. I reject everything you just said. I reject everything you just said because wages
00:03:16.720kept pace with inflation back then. Rent was half the price. A young person coming out of college
00:03:24.160could have the prospect of buying a house. I'm sorry. Why are you holding me to account more
00:03:30.340than Mark Carney on this issue. And by the way, even he somewhat tacitly admitted that they
00:03:37.480actually started bringing the numbers down, both on new permanent residents and temporary foreign
00:03:41.660workers after 2013. You will remember that Stephen Harper was the prime minister between 2006 and
00:03:48.2802015. And even during that period where they raised the amount of TFWs entering the country,
00:03:54.780that was still that was still a drop in the bucket compared to what Justin Trudeau and now Mark Carney
00:04:00.960are doing which is taking that high watermark number for Harper in 2013 again it went down
00:04:07.020the the next couple of years after that but it's taking that high watermark number of 2013
00:04:11.780and it's blowing that one even higher to the point where we had like a million people entering the
00:04:17.900country in a single year not even close to the numbers that Harper was putting up and I still
00:04:23.220think those numbers were too high in many years but how is this the turn that this interview has
00:04:28.900taken it's because they need the audience to the liberal elbows up audience to have permission to
00:04:35.140not listen to the conservatives yes michelle rempel has been poking holes in the awful immigration plan0.98
00:04:41.140of the carny liberals but now at the very end we need to absolve the carny liberals by attacking
00:04:47.540michelle rempel for immigration numbers from 15 years ago like what how does this have anything
00:04:56.180to do with anything it doesn't have anything to do with it they're simply again trying to trying
00:05:01.700to draw some sort of like moral some sort of intellectual equivalency between the harper
00:05:07.540numbers and the carney number so that carney liberals in the audience can say oh see it's
00:05:12.420no big deal and see the conservatives are blowing things out of proportion they're equally guilty
00:05:16.420They are not. They're somewhat guilty under Harper of raising rates too high, but that was more of a technical policy problem that could be worked out over time.
00:05:25.060It wasn't the absolute flood that Trudeau and now Carney were letting into the country in terms of overheated TFW and PR numbers.
00:05:34.140We didn't, we weren't talking about immigration.
00:05:35.880In fairness, Ms. Rampel-Garner, we ask the questions of the government, we ask the questions of the government, we hold them to account on this program and as much as we can when we're asking them in the halls as you do in question period.
00:05:48.180But I think there's a level of questions that I have to ask you about whether or not that the environment had been created by previous governments, as you point out, by your previous Trudeau government.
00:06:00.800And I'm asking you one government back, the Harper government.
00:06:43.860Like, come on, guys, the government needs to do better.
00:06:47.280And I'm not going to apologize for holding them to account on that.
00:06:51.660And that is what your job is in opposition.
00:06:55.080And I was just trying to get at earlier what level you want them to hit
00:06:58.560as opposed to where they are now way lower see he's kind of referencing what his tactic was at
00:07:04.120the start of this interview him trying to say well we're just holding we're just asking you
00:07:08.100the tough questions just as we ask them the tough questions no they don't their panel shows their
00:07:14.820power play show with vashi capellas which actually was probably much better a year ago her quality
00:07:19.740recently has really dipped over the past few months they do not hold the government accountable0.61
00:07:24.920Their panels are always stacked with liberal sycophants. Their interviewers ask much more pointed questions to the conservative opposition than to the government. And whenever Michelle Rempel, this entire interview, tried to make a point, you had Mike over here just absolutely stomping all over her, trying to get her to commit to like an oddly specific number on immigration when she's more so just critiquing the current state of things.
00:07:51.220She doesn't have a policy document ready for if we're going to have less than 50,000 new permanent residents for several years, or maybe we'll have 70,000, or maybe we won't have a specific number we're letting in.
00:08:03.520We'll just have a very high threshold when it comes to a point system that we require immigrants to be able to hit in order to be able to come into the country.
00:08:11.560There are many ways of reforming this.1.00
00:08:13.380In fact, you could actually have doors wide open, but no welfare, no social services available to you as a migrant. If you need any government resources, you have to pay for them yourselves or you have to compensate for them. And then probably a lot of people wouldn't show up because we no longer have the pantry cabinets wide open for anyone to take what they want as when they arrive.1.00
00:08:34.060But the problem, again, is that he is not an interviewer. He is not a neutral host. He is a liberal flack catcher who's trying to make Michelle Rempel and the conservatives look not fit for government. Look, she can't pull a number off the top of her head on what she wants the TFWs to be.
00:08:53.940ergo mark carney is absolved for having hundreds of thousands entering the country at a time when
00:09:00.280we have a really high unemployment like what are we doing here i'll be watching you interview
00:09:06.920gregor so you don't want to answer what level you want the government to hit in terms of
00:09:13.940immigration yes okay so i want to first of all i'd love the government to be transparent about
00:09:19.620how many people are actually in the country. I don't know that. Nobody does right now.
00:09:24.320Number two, I want to see better exit tracking and have the government be transparent about how
00:09:29.460many people they're planning on asking to leave or moving from the country that are on expired
00:09:34.280visas right now. Then I want them to consult the provinces and have a clear understanding
00:09:38.920of healthcare capacity and understand what levels can be set without asking Canadians
00:09:45.220and newcomers alike to have to sit in for 24 hours in an emergency room to get primary care
00:09:50.340then i want them to consult with young canadians and people who are struggling to make ends meet
00:09:54.980to understand what the economy looks like for them before just listening to high-powered lobbyists
00:09:59.860and high price lobbyists on on giving you know their immigration levels over understanding where
00:10:06.260the economy is actually going i want to understand how the economy is being disrupted by artificial
00:10:11.300intelligence and entry-level jobs before I set immigration levels? That's, Mark Carney's done
00:10:16.280none of that. That's what a responsible minister would do. And they would be, a responsible prime
00:10:21.640minister would be balancing the pocketbook needs of Canadians with corporate interests. So that's
00:10:26.760how I would approach this. And I'd have a great degree of empathy for both Canadians who are
00:10:31.120struggling and have real concerns about these immigration levels and empathy for the promise0.95
00:10:36.360that we're offering newcomers and failing to deliver. That's how the Conservative Party would0.97
00:10:40.600set immigration levels. It's how we've set them in the past. And we would also have a stronger
00:10:44.940economy too that would offer Canadians hope for a better job, which we don't see right now. So all
00:10:50.840of those things need to come together. And we just can't keep treating immigration like
00:10:57.540just numbers going into a factory of people, interchangeable cogs in a wheel. We need to
00:11:05.860to make sure that there is a pathway for hope and prosperity for everybody coming to the country
00:11:10.920and for people who are already here. Conservative immigration critic Michelle Rumpel-Gardiner.
00:11:16.800She really had to fight for that one at the end there. The host, Mike LeCortier,
00:11:21.140awful, just trash. Again, I showed you the more watchable part at the end where he tried to take0.99
00:11:26.940a shot at Stephen Harper and act like there's an equivalency between the Carney liberals and the
00:11:31.020conservatives and but before then it was like 11 minutes of him just like babbling over her every
00:11:39.060time she actually tried to make a critique of the carny liberals acting as if unless she used as much
00:11:44.960specificity as possible ergo she doesn't have a plan and like she properly laid it out there at
00:11:50.460the end well we don't know what the number is going to be until we go through all this we just
00:11:55.520know it needs to be much much lower i think that you should actually you shouldn't just find the
00:12:00.520line that it should be at you should find the line of what we can take in and then bring in 50 000
00:12:06.200less than even that line would say that you have capacity for because you want house prices to go
00:12:11.960down you want healthcare wait times to go way way down so that people can actually buy a home and0.99
00:12:18.760have their own families here the thing is high immigration actually causes people who live here0.73
00:12:24.920to have less kids because it overheats the prices for everything meaning that people are people are
00:12:31.080family planning for later in their lives than earlier and that's what ends up like basically0.99
00:12:36.120causing a spiral immigrants themselves when they come to a country where everything costs too much1.00
00:12:40.920also don't have any kids for the most part and so we get into this constant issue where1.00
00:12:46.760people aren't having enough kids so we need to bring more and more immigrants even though that
00:12:50.200causes people to not have enough kids so we need to bring in more immigrants just have less0.99
00:12:54.920and people will have more kids earlier that's really the fix here massively cut immigration0.98
00:13:00.760let house prices settle out people will buy houses in their late 20s they'll have more kids
00:13:06.680and then you won't need to bring in as many people and you will also not have the problems that lack
00:13:11.720of assimilation ends up bringing there are a lot of people who are qualified to be great canadians
00:13:17.000all over this planet but when you're bringing in 600 000 700 000 people in a single year there's
00:13:23.880no way you could actually filter who could make it in canada and who can't both financially as
00:13:30.680well as culturally it's just not possible some countries have a high rate of people who could
00:13:35.960immediately come here and basically fit in other countries you gotta pick and choose because i
00:13:41.400don't think there's that many great canadians coming out of gaza these days it's just my opinion
00:13:46.360on that one but my goodness this is happening all over the place with the media cbc ctv news0.93
00:13:53.160global city tv all the ones out there aptn let's throw in the indigenous one there in0.67
00:13:58.520in there too the the panels are just trash the way they treat conservative politicians when they come
00:14:06.440on is just starkly different from liberals liberals they let them talk set the agenda0.93
00:14:14.280frame the issues themselves there will be a little pushback here or there but they never
00:14:18.600stop them from talking and and and tell them that their their answer isn't good enough and
00:14:22.920and say, well, what about this? Well, what about this? You're not answering my question. They let
00:14:26.640Francois Philippe Champagne, Marc Carney, they let Melanie Jolie come on and just lie, just
00:14:32.780mischaracterize stuff. And the follow-ups are weak, and they're straw men that they can easily
00:14:38.020bat down and move on without actually getting caught in their own lies. But with conservatives,
00:14:45.080you can be saying something that is eminently true. You can be making a good faith critique
00:14:49.980that is absolutely logical and Mike LeCourtier there will freak out and say, well, what specific
00:14:56.840number? Well, Harper did this. Well, blah, blah, blah. It's like, stop it. Stop. Who are you? Are
00:15:02.220you Mark Carney's, like, brother? Did we not go, like, did you not, like, give me your resume
00:15:07.200beforehand and inform me that you must, that you're actually working for the Liberal Party of
00:15:12.680Canada? So many of these shows just do not even care if you think they're biased or not. If
00:15:18.620If anything, that would be a good thing. But the people watching this stuff have gotten used to the idea that these people present themselves as neutral reporters.
00:15:24.680And what they're trying to do is keep everyone on the liberal farm.
00:15:28.940Nobody shall, no viewer shall be allowed to leave the liberal farm.
00:15:32.220So if a conservative says a good critique, a very accurate critique of the liberals, the panelists, the hosts, the reporters will be activated to jump in and start catching bullets for the liberals and throwing out excuses to allow the audience to have the comfortable landing place and be able to have that knowledge that maybe Carney's not doing a good job.
00:15:55.020But Harper didn't do a good job either. So I'm I'm I'm comfortable continuing to vote liberal despite the fact that everything keeps getting worse every single year.
00:16:04.340Whatever. Anyways, with all that being said, this was just a quick reaction to that CTV news segment because it's been going around a lot today just based on how slanted the whole thing is.
00:16:14.580But again, thank you guys for watching. Make sure to like, share, subscribe, do all that fantastic stuff. And I'll see you all next time.