The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - August 03, 2023


Liberals Extort Facebook And Wonder Why Canadian News Got Blocked


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1,233

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60

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The liberal response to Bill C-18 causing news stories to disappear on Facebook and Google from Canada is absolutely infuriating from someone who actually works in the independent media space. The basic argument to people like Pierre Pouliot and others like him is that somehow it's not their fault because they should have just gone along with the stupid regulations.

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00:00:00.000 The liberal response to Bill C-18 causing news stories to disappear on Facebook and Google
00:00:06.120 from Canada is absolutely infuriating from someone who actually works in the independent 0.99
00:00:11.560 media space. The basic argument to people like Pierre Polyev who are accusing them rightly of
00:00:18.500 effectively causing media to disappear on Facebook is that somehow it's not their fault because
00:00:24.060 Facebook is taking down the stories as if Facebook should have just gone along with the stupid
00:00:29.520 regulations in Bill C-18. If you don't know yet, what effectively Bill C-18 was doing was
00:00:36.700 demanding that big tech platforms like Google and Meta pay journalists to post their news
00:00:43.260 onto their platforms. Basically, I, as one of the operators of the National Telegraph, post
00:00:49.520 National Telegraph stories onto their platform. It's a free platform. I'm not paying any money
00:00:53.780 for it at all. I'm just posting my stuff on the National Telegraph's page. People can read
00:00:59.380 it. People can comment, share. They can do anything they want. Now, Bill C-18 would say
00:01:04.720 that Facebook now owes me 50 bucks every single time I post a story or they owe me money per
00:01:11.480 click that I generate for on my story. It's absolutely insane to think that that was at
00:01:17.620 all reasonable to do to Facebook and Google. These companies usually don't run on massive
00:01:23.180 margins in terms of what they get per click on people's articles. If anything, they actually
00:01:28.380 want you to stay on the website. They don't want you leaving the website to go read stuff
00:01:32.120 on my website or someone else's. They want you to stay on Facebook as long as possible.
00:01:36.400 So it doesn't even necessarily benefit them for the National Telegraph to be posting article links.
00:01:41.660 They benefit more from us posting videos directly on the platform. But the liberals are responding
00:01:46.340 to this by basically saying that Facebook should have incurred all the extra costs that they
00:01:50.000 were forcing them to take on. And because Facebook is basically opting out of Canadian news in
00:01:54.440 general because they don't want to have to pay any of that stuff. Now it's their fault that news
00:01:58.340 isn't there. It's like if you triple the taxes on companies in whatever given province you live in,
00:02:04.260 and then the government tries to blame those companies for packing up and moving to a different
00:02:07.900 place because the taxes are too high. It's not their fault for just looking at the financial benefit
00:02:14.220 behind keeping Canadian news up in the aftermath of Bill C-18 and deciding that they don't even want to
00:02:19.440 host it anymore. It's the liberals fault for even putting those costs on them at all. And now the
00:02:24.760 liberals are even going after a conservative leader, Pierre Paglia, for basically accusing Justin
00:02:29.100 Trudeau of passing a law that makes like news from the internet disappear and then making a quip
00:02:34.960 later on that, you know, this kind of does reflect Justin Trudeau's admiration of the basic
00:02:40.080 dictatorship of China. And they're basically saying, oh, well, he doesn't understand what he's
00:02:44.740 talking about. Bill C-18 is actually meant to get journalists paid, but it's just those greedy
00:02:49.820 corporations who don't want to pay journalists. And it's like, you don't have to like big tech
00:02:54.800 companies. You don't have to like Google or Meta or any other big tech company to be able to say that
00:02:59.960 it's kind of absurd that journalists who are already freely using the platform because it helps them
00:03:04.960 distribute their material so that people read it. So they maybe get money on ads on their website,
00:03:10.980 or they maybe get donations or they get subscriptions that because they're, or while
00:03:15.860 already using this free platform, that's enabling them to reach people. They're also owed money for
00:03:20.420 using this free platform. Having not had to pay any of the costs that Facebook or Google incurs
00:03:25.580 to operate their platforms, you're still owed money for using their free platforms in which they give
00:03:30.640 you lots of options to connect to your audience. It's, it's just like, again, every single time the
00:03:35.780 liberals have a stupid policy that backfires, they always make it someone else's fault that it somehow
00:03:40.700 is just greedy businesses. When they pass new carbon taxes, when they raise the current carbon
00:03:45.140 tax, when they raise corporate taxes, when they raise income taxes, it's never the fault of them
00:03:50.560 for having businesses shut down because of all the new costs incurred. It's just, you know, corporate
00:03:54.600 greed. That's why, that's why, you know, that's why prices are increasing. It's just, you know,
00:04:00.140 there's just like, there's just not enough like support for small businesses or small businesses go
00:04:04.440 under or whatever that the government needs to now subsidize them or somehow they went under for
00:04:09.760 completely different reasons. It must've been a bad business model, not the fact that we
00:04:13.480 saddled them with millions of dollars and more taxes, but whatever, it's getting frustrating to
00:04:18.120 live in Canada, especially as an independent media journalist. But hopefully this does get wrapped up
00:04:23.420 soon. I would love for Bill C-18 to get removed before Trudeau's out of power. But unfortunately,
00:04:29.100 I do think I'm going to have to wait two years until Trudeau's out of power in 2025 because his new
00:04:35.440 current heritage minister, I forget what her name is. It doesn't even matter. They're all
00:04:39.480 effectively just Trudeau with a different name and face. She said she's going to still hold her
00:04:44.380 ground on Bill C-18 and she's not going to back down. And again, it's because their motivation was
00:04:49.880 never actually to get journalists paid. Their motivation was to force Google and Meta's hand
00:04:55.260 into removing all Canadian content because the less Canadian news content that's moving around Facebook
00:05:00.760 and Google, the less criticism Justin Trudeau and the Liberal Party is going to get. Because when
00:05:06.120 you don't hear anything about what the Liberals are up to, most people are just going to assume
00:05:09.720 that they're not up to anything nefarious or scandalous. And whenever you do hear about the
00:05:15.300 Liberals, because it's usually negative, it's better for them just to tap down on the distribution of
00:05:20.560 news and then just increase subsidies to their legacy media partners who back them up and try to
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