The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - September 21, 2026


Liberals Force BC Conservative Leader To RESIGN! (ft. Anthony Russo)

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00:00:00.000 Major breaking news out of the province of British Columbia, the BC Conservative Party leader Carrie Lynn Finley has resigned after suffering through a long campaign of bullying and harassment directed against her.
00:00:13.220 To talk more about this, I am bringing on Anthony Russo, who has been closely associated with Carrie Lynn Finley and been attempting to try and fight for grassroots members in the party as the BC Liberals are trying to take it back over.
00:00:27.600 How are you doing, Anthony?
00:00:29.160 Well, Wyatt, it's a wild day.
00:00:31.180 Today, the grassroots members for the Conservative Party of BC were essentially told that the
00:00:35.880 democratic process that elected Carrie Lynn Finley, that their voice and their vote is
00:00:40.900 completely irrelevant.
00:00:42.400 It's been overridden by the former BC Liberals.
00:00:45.240 And even though Carrie Lynn Finley won the leadership race, none of that really matters
00:00:49.240 anymore, does it?
00:00:50.540 Apparently, it's only democracy if they win.
00:00:53.220 throughout this entire thing, and we'll detail out everything that's happened up to this point
00:00:58.000 in a bit, but throughout this entire situation, people keep repeating this misnomer that
00:01:03.400 Carrie Lynn Finley only won the BC Conservative leadership by 60 votes, as if democracy isn't
00:01:09.080 democracy if you only win by a small margin, when in fact, if you actually know how the whole race
00:01:15.040 went, not only was Carrie Lynn Finley way outspent by all of her opponents, especially Caroline
00:01:20.420 Elliott, but they were also making it as cumbersome as possible to actually get registered
00:01:26.780 to vote, specifically targeting populist conservatives, trying to dissuade them from
00:01:31.440 registering through the use of digital ID verification. And she still won. It doesn't
00:01:38.440 matter what the margin is. It's remarkable that the person who spent the least in the race and
00:01:43.700 had everyone attacking her by the end of it was able to pull out a victory against Caroline Elliott's
00:01:50.400 behemoth of a campaign that is rumored to have spent up to $3.2 million losing against a woman
00:01:57.700 who spent around half a million dollars. Anyways, but you were there from the very beginning when
00:02:04.540 it comes to the KLF campaign, or I guess you were actually first on Caroline Elliott's campaign,
00:02:09.080 but you were there at the very beginning of this whole leadership race, and you have good
00:02:12.660 insight on what happened. But I think before we even get to that, we have to wind back the tape
00:02:18.300 to before the 2024 BC election? What do you think happened back then and how is it connected to
00:02:25.660 today? Yeah, so in the last election, obviously, John Rustad brought in quite a large portion of
00:02:32.900 the BC United, BC Liberal candidates. You know, from my perspective, and I think this is widely
00:02:38.180 shared, ever since the Liberal candidates have came in, there's obviously an exception to this
00:02:42.900 rule, but many of them haven't been able to accept the fact that this is a Conservative party
00:02:47.860 In fact, ever since the BC United integration into the Conservative Party, it seems as though this has really just been a long play to really just take over that Conservative branding and then just make it the Liberal Party 2.0.
00:03:01.800 And obviously, that's come now to a climactic moment where the Conservative membership elected a Conservative candidate.
00:03:10.360 And it led to the point where we had emergency caucus meetings trying to get her resignation, blackmail, all kinds of tactics, a smear campaign that's been going for the past several months, leaks coming left, right and centre.
00:03:22.120 And all of this really comes down to the fact that the BC Liberal side is not willing to accept that we chose a Conservative leader and they just won.
00:03:30.520 They have overridden all of our voice.
00:03:33.080 And it's not just our opinion that these people are liberals.
00:03:38.260 They sat as BC liberal politicians.
00:03:40.680 They wanted to run under BC United, many of them.
00:03:44.140 And when you actually follow what they say in the legislature, what they choose to endorse
00:03:49.680 in their actions as MLAs, they're on the left.
00:03:53.000 Many of these people are even voting in favor of land grabs and treaties that the BC NDP
00:03:59.000 government are signing.
00:03:59.960 The difference between them and the BC NDP is effectively just the speed at which they destroy the province.
00:04:06.600 They think that we should, the BC liberal types, that we should just gear down a little bit and drive towards the cliff a little bit slower.
00:04:14.980 The BC Greens want us to drive even faster, but what kind of choice is this really for British Columbians if, like, you know, defeating the NDP in an election would mean that you're just going to have people warming the seat until the NDP come back.
00:04:29.640 But this is what Carrie Lynn Finley had to work with in the inner caucus.
00:04:35.640 And I think it's quite telling that many of the people who ended up leaving, staging these walkouts to make Carrie Lynn Finley look bad,
00:04:42.320 mostly endorsed Peter Milibar, who came fifth in that leadership race, dead last.
00:04:49.920 Yeah, I know. It's almost comical at this point.
00:04:52.740 You know, we had phone calls yesterday essentially saying that Centre BC has directly communicated with some of the former Liberals on the Conservative side and said, hey, if you guys bring John Rustad back in as the leader after the resignation of Carrie Lynn Findlay, we'll coalesce, like we'll actually potentially fall in.
00:05:12.000 So we're at the point here where John Rustad was already removed once, there was an immense amount of scrutiny and public backlash, and they're advocating for Rustad to come back? 0.90
00:05:23.180 I mean, that's just a clown show, isn't it? 0.85
00:05:25.540 Well, and they want a puppet, I think. That's really what they're trying to get at. 0.73
00:05:29.420 John Rustad is a spent political force, and so is, I would say, even Trevor Halford and anyone else who's still in this caucus who has sat by either doing nothing or was openly duplicitous.
00:05:40.380 because we remember John Rustad was the person who kicked Dallas Brody out of the BC Conservative
00:05:46.040 Caucus back in March of 2025 that precipitated all of the chaos up till today. Dallas didn't do
00:05:53.520 anything wrong, simply stated that the Kamloops 215 hoax is a hoax, and that was too much for the
00:06:01.260 delicate Liberal Party culture inside of the BC Conservative Party. And the fact that we're now
00:06:07.280 discussing bringing in John Rustad or Trevor Halford, who was one of the main people organizing
00:06:12.960 the coup of Carrie Lynn Finley in as a leader, or even worse, bringing in Caroline Elliott,
00:06:18.440 who lost to KLF and apparently gets a redo by harassing her, the winner, out of the job. 0.70
00:06:23.700 It's just disgusting. And it's basically like spitting on the member's face and telling them
00:06:29.420 to like it. Wyatt, we're literally at the point here. I know that you read the Western Standard
00:06:34.360 article yesterday. We're literally at the point where this isn't just standard caucus pressures
00:06:39.440 and pushback. You know, it's gotten to the point where we're now reading about three internal
00:06:44.540 caucus members who have come forward to the news stating that there was a MLA who literally
00:06:50.140 threatened Carrie Lynn Findlay yesterday that if she didn't resign by day's end, that they would
00:06:55.480 be releasing a damaging audio of her husband. That's blackmail or extortion. I can't imagine
00:07:01.260 in any world that it's legal. One of the things that's very hard for me to stomach here,
00:07:06.060 as conservatives, sometimes it feels like we keep losing because we're not willing to stoop
00:07:12.120 to the level of our opponents, where we'll literally take criminal action, like we will
00:07:16.600 break the law to win. So because as conservatives, we won't do that, our voice is negated and we get
00:07:22.120 pushed out. And that's the situation we're in right now. It's unbelievable. And a lot of this
00:07:27.280 has been waged by both the kind of why i would say consultant bros who are running caroline elliott's
00:07:33.460 campaign who also have allies who are currently sitting on the board of the bc conservative party
00:07:39.160 you know some of these people and who they're connected to from having at one point been
00:07:44.360 an organizer or volunteer on caroline elliott's campaign early on and maybe you can talk about
00:07:49.980 them a little bit and then how this is kind of stymied klf's ability to even operate the party
00:07:56.240 considering she inherits a board stacked by the Team Rustad people from before the leadership
00:08:01.880 election. Yeah, man, we could go all the way back to the AGM. But basically, at this point,
00:08:08.020 Carrie Lynn Finley has not had the support of the majority of the board of directors,
00:08:12.720 and especially the management committee. And, you know, right now we have a president,
00:08:17.040 Mauro Francis, and a vice president, Pavneet Singh, who nobody really knows how they were
00:08:22.240 elected. You know, I spoke to one of the other management committee members, and I asked him a
00:08:25.640 series of questions. I said, hey, when Asia Esty and Sharon resigned as president and vice president,
00:08:32.500 how did the management committee select Mauro Francis and Pavneet Singh? It was a little quiet.
00:08:37.820 And I said, was it voted on by the organizing committee while Mauro Francis and Pavneet Singh
00:08:45.440 were still on the management committee? And they said, yeah, that's right. I said, so you're telling
00:08:49.880 me essentially that they elected themselves president and vice president and they were
00:08:55.500 supported by the two people who were resigning like these aren't democratically elected people
00:09:00.400 this is just insanity and i should mention too that moral francis was never even originally
00:09:06.140 on the board he was an appointee i believe to a gap that was on the board later on so we have
00:09:12.300 someone who the members have never actually cast a vote in favor of calling the shots and attempting
00:09:17.980 to stop Carrie Lynn Finley from operating, like allowing her to even hire a new executive director,
00:09:24.740 her friend Elaine Allen, who was basically forced out for trying to lock down the party server
00:09:30.900 after a data breach had happened. Yeah, I mean, the Western Standard did a great article on this,
00:09:36.680 and I've had conversations with a lot of the team in regards to it. This has been one of the most
00:09:41.460 divisive things that's come up recently. So Elaine Allen received some form of notification that
00:09:47.540 former executives, including Angelo Isidoro and Phil Dipenar, were accessing party servers and to
00:09:54.540 quote the Western Standard directly, accessing, altering and deleting party files upwards of
00:10:01.320 three weeks after they were no longer a part of the organization. So she gets this notification,
00:10:07.500 locks them out, and then starts backing up the files. At that point, she is suspended
00:10:13.660 by Mauro Francis. And that suspension leads to her removing her name as executive director.
00:10:20.160 So it's so ridiculous. This is who Carrie Lynn Findlay chose to be the executive director of
00:10:25.360 the Conservative Party. And she was essentially pushed out for what? Doing the right thing?
00:10:30.920 Trying to protect the membership list? Like, what are we doing?
00:10:34.820 Pushed out by Mauro Francis, who, by the way, at one point, not that long ago,
00:10:40.200 was a candidate for the Progress Vancouver party where he ran underneath the mayoral candidate
00:10:47.320 Mark Marison the former husband of Christy Clark and was on the same slate as Morgane Auger that
00:10:54.960 dude who dresses as a woman and celebrates the death of Charlie Kirk that was only back in 2022
00:11:01.200 that was a slate Marle Francis decided to run on but I have been told that he is more of a more of
00:11:07.920 man than you anthony by other uh credible voices on x yeah alex brown and uh and he might he might
00:11:16.660 be more than a man than you if we're counting weight no i know why it's it's just um it's been
00:11:24.900 a wild ride and um i think as much as we can laugh about it now i'm sure that you might be
00:11:30.160 able to fill in some of the gaps here in regards to if this is similar to what dallas brody went
00:11:35.020 through, it probably provides some context. I think that a lot of the members voted in good
00:11:40.220 faith for the leader that they wanted to win. Carrie Lynn Finley won that race. And it's ended
00:11:44.700 here where we've had a removal via blackmail, a board that's made coups against her, a caucus
00:11:49.940 that's tried to knife her at every possible opportunity. We haven't been able to put forward
00:11:54.400 a platform. We haven't been able to develop a campaign strategy where we can start to communicate
00:11:59.540 about the issues that matter to British Columbians because we're constantly in emergency strategy
00:12:04.120 meetings, trying to figure out how we're going to survive the next round of attacks. So it's made us
00:12:08.980 completely unproductive, and it's now ended in this capacity. So what I'd like to ask you, Wyatt,
00:12:13.840 does this provide any context for the people that are watching this play out right now with some of
00:12:18.780 these bad actors? Is this what Dallas went through when she was removed from the party?
00:12:23.820 I think that anyone who didn't believe Dallas before will believe her now, because this is
00:12:28.920 pretty much exactly what happened. Obviously, Dallas was not the leader of the party,
00:12:32.720 But it's the exact same playbook of manufacturing crises, manufacturing public outcry and instability and demanding that someone be removed because chaos, because have you read the news? Have you read the manufactured headlines that we've contributed to?
00:12:49.680 When Dallas was forced out, it was an artificial takedown that was led by Peter Milibar and Alia Warbus, basically trying to gin up hysteria against Dallas Brody.
00:13:03.320 And that's pretty much what happened, again, to Carrie Lynn Finley.
00:13:07.500 Peter Milibar was one of the ringlears of it.
00:13:09.500 Of course, he was the first man to stage a walkout of it and say, oh, I can no longer be part of this party anymore.
00:13:16.500 It's too something.
00:13:18.220 he would never actually explain what it was but something was bad and he had to leave and actually
00:13:23.700 when Carrie Lynn Finley in that now famous photo of her sitting and having dinner with Dallas Brody
00:13:29.060 I can tell you they had a they had a long dinner a few hours and they for quite a bit of it had
00:13:34.360 basically talked about how Dallas had the exact same experience and Carrie Lynn understood exactly
00:13:39.880 what she went through now because all of these people are going to bully you harass you gaslight
00:13:46.880 you, threaten you until they get what they want. And if you push back, they are the biggest cry
00:13:52.720 bullies you've ever seen. Today, this happened that Linda Heppner, who I believe actually was
00:13:57.760 a former friend of Carrie Lynn Finley. And the worst part of the struggle session is always when
00:14:02.120 your friends turn on you. But Linda Heppner said that I must leave caucus because Carrie Lynn
00:14:08.000 Finley has kicked out these three seasoned politicians from the party, John Rostad,
00:14:13.320 Trevor Halford and Claire Rottet. What did those three seasoned politicians do? And I would be a
00:14:19.140 stretch to try and describe Claire Rottet as a seasoned politician. She is a one-term MLA who's
00:14:25.720 only been in for less than two years, but never mind that. They tried to get rid of Carrie Lynn
00:14:32.440 Finley. They tried to run a coup against her, but it's wrong for KLF to say, okay, you guys are not
00:14:38.620 going to spend caucus resources and time trying to get rid of me every day. You're gone. You
00:14:43.800 clearly don't want to be here. Bye. And then Linda Heppner there says, oh, that's so harsh,
00:14:48.740 so mean, so cruel. I can't believe you would get rid of these three seasoned politicians.
00:14:52.380 What has John Rustad ever done for anybody? People realize that a lot of the mess that we
00:14:59.720 are currently in is a creation by John Rustad and the hamster that powers his brain. The hamster
00:15:06.940 running on that small wheel that keeps that man operating day to day is the problem. He is the
00:15:12.640 one who signed all these terrible, the original agreements for all these terrible treaties the
00:15:16.840 NDP is hammering through right now. But apparently we need more Rustad more than ever right now.
00:15:22.320 It's absolutely ridiculous. But I'm not sure what you're going to do with that. But a lot of this
00:15:27.440 video is probably going to be a bit of a rant. Sorry, Anthony. No, you know what, Wyatt? I'm
00:15:32.340 just plugging back in here. But one of the things that we're trying to determine right now is
00:15:36.800 what to do next. The grassroots have been told that they need to swallow the pill,
00:15:42.300 that their voice and their vote is irrelevant. They've already had to overcome some of their
00:15:47.700 struggles with the digital verification process. People were starting to get behind Carrie Lynn
00:15:52.140 Findlay here. It's been a constant knife fight. And now that we've been pushed to the side,
00:15:57.140 what do we do next? Well, here's what we know right now. As we speak, Wyatt, there is currently
00:16:01.800 a bloodbath fight behind the seat behind the scenes for who is going to take control of this
00:16:06.820 party you have trevor halford wanting control kyle giddens trying to put his hat in the ring
00:16:11.620 you have john rustad doing his little coup with center bc and then you have um larry newfeld
00:16:18.240 right now as well lauren dirksen lauren dirksen not larry newfeld sorry lauren dirksen doing the
00:16:23.900 same thing so where we what we have right now is we have the more conservative side mlas signing
00:16:28.700 a document wanting Lauren Dirksen to be the replacement. On the other hand, you have Trevor
00:16:33.940 Halford. Two documents are being presented to the board of directors. What we're going to see next
00:16:38.340 is who the new leader of the Conservative Party is that, of course, wasn't democratically elected
00:16:42.300 by the people to lead. That was Carrie Lynn. So now what we're trying to determine is what do we
00:16:47.060 do? What are the grassroots do? Do we come on board now with 1BC? How do we somehow stay behind
00:16:53.780 the Conservative Party when they don't give a shit about our voice and our vote? Like, what are we 0.98
00:16:58.340 supposed to do with that? And like full disclosure, I, of course, I think I already said this, but I
00:17:02.840 work for Dallas Brody. I'm the 1BC communications director. So everyone take everything I say with
00:17:06.940 a grain of salt, because obviously I'm incentivized to tell you that 1BC is a good option. I
00:17:11.960 artificially only make under my own voluntary, you know, request, I only make $25,000 a year
00:17:18.220 because I never want anyone to assume I'm doing this for money and power. I'm here basically in
00:17:23.900 B.C. politics as an Albertan because there isn't a lot of other people like Anthony around who are
00:17:30.120 actually trying to put in a lot of time organizing grassroots, trying to actually get the majority
00:17:36.140 of British Columbians what they want. My problem with trying to just change, let's say it's
00:17:42.140 Lauren Dirksen and he is marketed as the good replacement because he's conservative.
00:17:47.740 You cannot do that if you have self-respect. You cannot get on board with that if you have any
00:17:52.840 integrity at all we are going to get rid of your leader but don't worry we will put in place a man
00:17:57.320 who doesn't really have much left in his political career and he's just gonna basically do whatever
00:18:01.500 the board wants and it'll just kind of muddle along did we get into this game did we all
00:18:06.360 buy memberships for parties did we all volunteer and hit doors and put up lawn signs to have your
00:18:13.620 option slaughtered and replaced by a consolation prize that's going to be replaced by somebody
00:18:19.200 later. If you accept this, you might as well just say to the political establishment, run the
00:18:25.780 province. I will promise to just vote for whoever you want me to and never bother you with internal
00:18:30.440 party matters. Because that's what's happening right now. Any MLA who in the long term accepts
00:18:36.620 this is basically telling their own members, we don't actually care what you think. You weren't
00:18:42.920 actually supposed to try in the leadership race? Yeah, 100%. Yeah. So for the membership,
00:18:51.240 there's going to be some big decisions to make here. The options are either come under the
00:18:56.440 leadership of an unelected democratically put in place leader of the party and accept it,
00:19:02.400 accept the fact that our board still has corrupt issues, that we have people on there that weren't
00:19:07.240 really put in place through a proper democratic process as well. So do we continue to accept
00:19:12.740 this corruption. Can we continue just to be a good little conservative and sit down, shut your
00:19:19.100 mouth, take the corruption, accept the fact that your voice is meaningless and that these people 0.93
00:19:23.920 don't care about you at all. They'll take your money. They'll take your volunteer hours. They'll
00:19:29.020 take your hard work, but they certainly won't take your voice or your vote because that's
00:19:33.320 completely irrelevant. And for someone like myself, Wyatt, I'm furious about this. I'm
00:19:38.800 absolutely furious we have put so much hard work into that leadership campaign so many hours and
00:19:45.720 ever since it's been a constant constant go go go and i have to give you the i have to give you
00:19:51.500 credit for the fact that again you never started on that klf campaign it wasn't like an ego play
00:19:56.100 that you chose a team and you want to see the team you chose win you were on caroline elliott's
00:20:00.700 campaign and much like britney foote and other people who are also on it is it nathan weber one
00:20:06.640 of the individuals as well you guys had to leave because of the behavior of people like cory tonight
00:20:12.960 and nick cuvalis and the campaign bros who basically think that they are destined to run
00:20:19.320 politics in every corner of the country they they don't even they don't even know how to win
00:20:23.680 they had 3.2 million dollars apparently at least two and a half million and they couldn't beat
00:20:28.860 carrie lynn finley spending five bucks and a ham sandwich they are not good at this they only win
00:20:34.520 by people basically relenting and allowing them to pull off dirty tricks.
00:20:39.280 Yeah, 100%.
00:20:40.440 I mean, we saw that case in point in the last two months with the Finley Files.
00:20:44.400 You know, constant attacks, constant leaks, never an ability to put a good foot forward.
00:20:50.180 And quite frankly, you know, there was another Western Standard article
00:20:53.660 that identified the primary suspect for the Finley Files being Jonathan Ross,
00:20:57.980 who was directly connected as a supporter of Caroline Elliott.
00:21:01.120 And you know what?
00:21:01.960 It's incredibly frustrating.
00:21:02.960 Now, what I will say, there are some people who were core staffers and primary volunteers with Caroline Elliott who since have actually really come around.
00:21:12.960 Like we've mended fences, we've been able to work together, but there's also still a large group of them that have never accepted the result of the leadership race.
00:21:20.600 By the way, no Caroline Elliott endorsers have ever actually left the party.
00:21:26.020 It was all Millibar. It was Ian Black. And then there was also like, I guess, people who didn't endorse, but they were part of like the leadership team of the party. But they were really pro Millibar. I work in the legislature and I have to witness question period, a horrific waste of time when it comes to most of the conservatives questions.
00:21:43.860 And you could tell that they were giving every single question to Millibar people, because although Warbus and Rosalind Byrd and people didn't endorse Millibar, they were basically making sure if you do endorse Millibar, you get a question every day.
00:21:57.140 You're going to get special treatment in caucus if you are, you know, on the team Millibar, even though he only got 10% of the vote. It's pathetic. You know, the fact that these guys think that they are the voice of BC politics and they can't win a simple leadership race or even come in at a respectable third place or something like that is insane. 0.94
00:22:17.560 Because the thing is, people have to know, if you get behind, whether it's Rusted, Halford, or Lauren Dirksen, or anybody else, anyone who didn't lift a finger to stand up for Carrie Lynn Finley, Dallas Brody, the leader of a different party, was more supportive of Carrie Lynn Finley's ability to get into the legislature and operate and see how she's going to perform.
00:22:39.460 Dallas Brody was interested in seeing how Carrie Lynn Finley would do as leader.
00:22:43.980 And it never happened because she never got to be leader since May.
00:22:46.800 But the thing is, they constantly artificially pump up this sense of chaos, and then they blame you for the chaos, even though they're the ones sawing the way at the table legs.
00:22:55.380 Yeah, 100%.
00:22:56.500 I mean, the last several weeks, we've had Anthony Koch on an absolute tear, constantly calling for the resignation of Carrie Lynn Finley.
00:23:03.920 Like, some of these people just cannot accept where we're at.
00:23:07.180 And I'm hoping that the public, the membership are going to start to identify some of these bad actors.
00:23:12.840 They've been around the political landscape for many years.
00:23:15.400 And you know what? We don't need to listen to these people anymore.
00:23:18.200 They're here trying to do destruction.
00:23:20.080 You know, the same thing applies to some of these former B.C. liberals.
00:23:22.720 At this point, you know, if even a Lauren Dirksen were to come in, they're going to have pressure.
00:23:29.080 They're going to have big pressure to try and bring back some of these traitor MLAs.
00:23:33.060 They're going to have pressure because their $5 million line of credit is currently being reviewed, and they know they need to go into a potential snap general election.
00:23:41.680 So what I'm frustrated with is it's constant capitulation, and at some point, we need to ask ourselves, where's the line in the sand?
00:23:49.800 At what point can we say enough is enough?
00:23:53.620 And I think that if people actually want to see change, again, shameless plug, but it is shameless.
00:23:59.860 I don't have any shame about doing this.
00:24:01.420 people should join 1BC because what else are you going to do wait in the lobby of the conservative
00:24:06.380 party like metaphorically hoping that eventually they come out and actually trying to address
00:24:10.680 grassroots needs they're not going to they don't care did any of the people who did this to klf
00:24:15.840 ever think about the grassroots at all i've never seen one of them even invoke what the grassroots
00:24:21.000 want this entire time they all joined center bc that has no party members because they don't like
00:24:26.860 parties with members in them. Members are messy. They're like germs. They want to get as few of
00:24:31.400 them on them as possible. And I think that 1BC can absolutely be the party for grassroots British
00:24:38.500 Columbians, ordinary decent people who make the province run, especially in the forgotten parts
00:24:44.480 of the province like the Fraser Valley, the Interior, and Up Island. All of these parts of
00:24:50.100 the province need to realize that the Vancouver politicians, the Victoria politicians, do not
00:24:56.120 care about you one bit. The only Vancouver politician who seems to give a crap is Dallas 0.99
00:25:00.380 Brody, the only non-NDP politician in Vancouver. But the rest of the lower mainland with the 0.98
00:25:05.340 conservative MLAs are pretty much no different. What are they going to do if they get into
00:25:10.240 government? Slightly adjust things? Peter Milibar, when he was running for leadership,
00:25:14.440 ran on getting rid of DRIPA, but then replacing it with his own version of DRIPA. That's what
00:25:19.040 these people will do if they get into government. And it doesn't matter what they say. At the end
00:25:23.540 of the day, once they actually get to the decision making point, they'll figure out a way of pulling
00:25:28.180 victory from the jaws or defeat from the jaws of victory. Yeah, I mean, case in point, Brennan Day,
00:25:34.540 I mean, it'll be a laughingstock if they were to bring someone like Brennan Day back here. Quite
00:25:39.120 frankly, it should be a riding where a 1BC under a Brennan Day candidate should be able to dominate.
00:25:44.420 I mean, that guy just sold out his constituents when he signed the Comox Treaty. He's not the
00:25:48.400 only one but it was his own riding so yeah people are giving it away for fun money power and land 0.89
00:25:54.160 for nothing because it was nice and like that's so it's so pathetic that we are screwing over the
00:26:00.660 people of bc to be nice and it's like that is what the actual you know that's that's what's 0.62
00:26:07.180 happening to europe right now that's happening to so many parts of the west it's just letting
00:26:12.280 the hordes burn everything down because it would be rude to stop them yep at this point look here
00:26:18.380 Here's the reality that I'm facing right now.
00:26:20.300 The reality is we fought a hard leadership race.
00:26:23.780 We won against a series of bad actors.
00:26:26.220 And now they knifed us and we're dead.
00:26:29.460 They've knifed us and we're dead.
00:26:31.140 Our leader has resigned because of blackmail, pressure, constant attacks.
00:26:36.020 She's out.
00:26:37.100 And these people are taking control back.
00:26:39.520 So the decision me and many of the grassroots members now have to make is this.
00:26:43.740 do you guys really want to work for the leadership party under the control of Moro Francis and
00:26:49.480 Pavneet Singh? Maybe they'll invite Angelo back. Hey, maybe they can bring Asia back. Can we get
00:26:54.420 Harmon and Kreese back on retainer? Like, are these the decisions? Are these the compromises
00:26:58.700 we're about to make? Because I'm certainly not on board with that. And I do not think
00:27:02.080 I'm alone in it at all. You know, the conservatives are going to have a pile of work to do because
00:27:07.000 they are going to hemorrhage supporters and members at this point, because they have pushed
00:27:12.560 people to an absolute tilt point and breaking point. They'll take your money, they'll take your
00:27:17.780 hours, but they won't take your vote. Angelo Isidoro, Azim Jawani, and John Rustad cursed
00:27:23.680 the party basically in 24 by combining with United. It was a marriage that was never going to work.
00:27:29.720 And so what we did was we just kicked the can down the road to actually defeating the liberal
00:27:35.100 establishment before you can actually take back the government. If you infect the party that's
00:27:40.500 supposed to fix the government with the liberals that means that even if you got in the successes
00:27:45.820 are going to be limited and so it's just true now that now is the time where we have to roll up our
00:27:51.460 sleeves and destroy the corrupt establishment of the province and stop trying to make deals with
00:27:57.460 them because they sign with pencil not pen and they will always figure out a way of getting rid 0.62
00:28:02.880 of you if you actually end up you know gaining some momentum if you end up actually gaining
00:28:07.600 some limited amount of power in the party. It's all temporary to them. They will veto any election
00:28:13.860 that they do not win inside these parties and ensure that the general is always fought between
00:28:19.080 as similar of parties as possible. The NDP and the conservatives, if the center BC people come back,
00:28:25.300 I don't even really know what to tell you is the difference other than some slight nuances
00:28:29.480 in like maybe education and healthcare policy and whatnot. It's not going to get better,
00:28:34.180 just going to be different, I guess. Yeah. You know, I think some of my primary closing
00:28:39.220 marks on this fly are just, you know, for those of us who have worked really high, hard,
00:28:44.720 we've had our hopes very high for the future of the Conservative Party. This is a big loss
00:28:49.640 and it really sucks. But you know what? We have a lot of very serious thinking to do.
00:28:55.180 Enough is enough. These people have pushed us to our breaking point. They've pushed us around
00:28:59.600 and we cannot keep going at this rate we're not going to be able to make a change in the board
00:29:04.300 before a snap election like so i think that we've got some very serious thinking to do i think one
00:29:09.980 bc is a very high possibility it's a it's a very viable option right now because many of us are
00:29:15.640 sick and tired of this and i don't think we can continue to accept the fact that our voice is
00:29:20.580 meaningless and and if anyone lives in a riding with one of the better conservative mlas and there
00:29:26.840 are still many of them, Heather Maas, David Williams, people in those regions, Sharon
00:29:32.340 Hartwell, Anna Kendi, write your MLA an email and tell them that they should be shifting
00:29:39.820 over.
00:29:40.360 The nice thing about 1BC is that we are not a dictatorship party like other parties where
00:29:45.100 whatever the leader says goes if the leader is liked by the corrupt establishment.
00:29:49.620 You'll be coming over into a party where you can do and say what you want.
00:29:53.920 you can actually represent your own constituents for a change. What a concept. That actually is,
00:30:00.020 I think, a winning message in the parts of the province that are tired of electing people who
00:30:04.040 don't actually represent them. They are simply the most palatable thing that the establishment
00:30:09.720 is willing to put up with from there, but you're never actually able to drive the car yourself.
00:30:14.900 So many of these MLAs almost never get a question in the legislature because they are not considered
00:30:20.160 the important people in the party, the real voice of the party. The real voice of the party
00:30:24.400 is Alia Warbus and people like, you know, Kyle Giddens, people who basically have no opinions
00:30:31.020 on anything other than slight disagreement and process with the NDP. Anyway, so I will just
00:30:38.400 mention to people that in the pinned comment, there will be a link to the 1BC website. If you
00:30:43.360 guys want to check that out, consider joining the party, donating and all that stuff. Of course,
00:30:48.000 thank you to Anthony Russo for coming on to the show. I will have to edit a little bit of this
00:30:52.700 because I did mess up a little bit with my Wi-Fi halfway through, and Anthony has been very
00:30:56.560 gracious in putting up with me. But no doubt in the coming days, I will be putting out more
00:31:01.100 information about what is going on here. Hopefully, you know, things will work out in a way that is
00:31:06.800 most beneficial to British Columbians. Do you have any closing remarks, Anthony, on this particular
00:31:12.940 show? Yeah, Carrie Lynn and Brent, if you guys do watch this, you know, what you guys have gone
00:31:20.600 through here is absolutely unacceptable. And in regards to how it ended with the blackmail,
00:31:28.040 please go to the RCMP and take full legal action against these people. We cannot allow them. They've
00:31:36.240 pushed you out, but we cannot allow them to get away with this. You know, our hearts and our
00:31:40.720 thoughts are with you guys we appreciate all the effort that you've done um but this is unacceptable
00:31:46.040 and i hope you guys follow the proper channels absolutely thank you for coming on anthony and
00:31:51.220 again i will be bringing you guys on more updates in the coming days as this story keeps developing
00:31:56.900 but until then again check out the 1bc website and i'll see you all later