00:02:29.320No doubt we are going to get a trade deal anytime soon now,
00:02:33.440and we're going to save a lot of Canadian jobs
00:02:35.240because he's fighting with Donald Trump.
00:02:37.940I want to move on to then what Donald Trump said because it then got brought up at the press conference because this press conference was going on at the same time that Donald Trump made a post on Truth Social about what he said about him on the radio that morning.
00:02:51.920So this is the response from Donald Trump who says lots of bluster from Doug Ford who is the premier of the Canadian province of Ontario but who is better known as the less charismatic intelligent and overall unimpressive brother of the late great Rob Ford.
00:03:07.860America has been carrying Canada for decades, but no longer.
00:03:11.480The USA will always be far bigger, richer, and stronger than Canada.
00:03:16.520Without the United States, Canada couldn't survive.
00:03:18.540It's where they get all of their money, and because of their current bad leadership,
00:03:23.740primarily Governor Carney and his flunky Ford,
00:03:27.460they will not be allowed to keep taking advantage of the United States.
00:03:31.000Their key to survival, remember, much of the electricity, oil, and gas that Canada gets
00:03:35.560is transported through the USA. Someone should get these clowns to fall in line or the consequences
00:03:41.660for Canada will be far worse. Canada's unemployment rate is now 10% and rapidly rising. Their
00:03:47.120businesses are fleeing from the United States and it's all because of their failed policies
00:03:51.380and inept leadership. The days of ripping off our farmers and other businesses are over. Thank you
00:03:56.100for your attention to this matter, President Donald J. Trump. Now there's some things in here
00:03:59.720obviously they're just not true. Our unemployment rate is not 10%. It's around 6%, which is still
00:04:04.960double what it is in the United States at the moment. And there's other things around it where,
00:04:09.480of course, Donald Trump is one to engage in bluster all like, you know, as much as he
00:04:14.560accuses Doug Ford of it. But my goodness, he's not wrong when it comes to the fact that America
00:04:20.920is much more powerful and richer. That doesn't mean you give them anything that they want.
00:04:26.840But again, if Jameson Greer is right, and the deal put in very low single digit tariffs,
00:04:32.580And we walked away from that because Mark Carney and people like Doug Ford, Wob Canoe, David Eby, and the Premier of Quebec want to fight with Trump for their own political benefit?
00:15:46.180And then America goes and signs a deal with another country, and they start buying potash from them, and they say, well, actually, our quota's already met, so we're not going to buy any of yours.
00:15:54.620We would probably, in our Kuzma relationship, step in there and say, you can't sign that agreement because you already are committed to us, or else why the heck would I have signed Kuzma if you're just immediately going to try and find anyone else to fill the gaps and then dump us when you can.
00:16:36.600But now I just want to move on to some other stuff that's been going on since yesterday. It's been absolutely jam-packed here. I want to jump to a comment made by Prime Minister Mark Carney at an announcement today alongside the Premier of Quebec. He was asked about the trade negotiations and if we are actually going to come back to the table. And he gave what I thought was a fairly childish and unrealistic answer.
00:17:02.180U.S. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy told Fox News on Sunday that Canada will come back to the negotiating table because the tariffs are so devastating and that we depend on the U.S. for our security.
00:17:17.560Look, when the Americans go to the negotiation table first with the right attitude towards our industries and a true partnership, of course, we'll come to the negotiating table.
00:27:19.500For Americans, French language, the Francophone culture,0.65
00:27:24.860the Canadian culture, these are irritants.
00:27:28.280Here in Quebec, here in Canada, these are rights, basic rights, fundamental rights.
00:27:39.900So there is an enormous spread between our perspective and the U.S. perspective, personally.
00:27:51.300again the thing that he always most passionately speaks on in terms of why the deal didn't go
00:27:58.280through and he pulled back last minute is always the idea that somehow it was unacceptable
00:28:03.880to loosen language laws that in effect are ridiculous we're forcing french language
00:28:11.660onto packaging that goes to the yukon into places in alberta where more people speak low german
00:28:18.420We need French packaging. Where's the low German packaging? And people say it's a right where the
00:28:23.420country was founded between the English and the French. Okay, I get that. Can we figure out a
00:28:30.100government solution to that saying, okay, American companies don't have to put French packaging on,
00:28:34.660but the Canadian retailers will slap on French stickers that have French translations on them
00:28:41.140for the short run. And in two and a half years, we can change it. We couldn't even figure out
00:28:45.540that one? Again, it's because they didn't want to get a deal in the first place. And now we have
00:28:50.760this ridiculous suggestion being made. Paul Vieira here reporting, Ontario Premier Ford
00:28:58.480says he's going to have a phone call with Alberta Premier Smith about approach on retaliation
00:29:03.860against the United States. Now, obviously, what he wants is for Alberta Premier Daniel Smith
00:29:10.120and Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe to place export tariffs on oil and gas and potash going to the
00:29:18.040United States. I thought Doug Ford was a tough guy who could generate his own leverage. I thought,
00:29:25.320come on, do it. You place export tariffs on everything that goes into the United States,
00:29:30.600100% export tariffs out of Canada. You can't buy from us. It's 100% more expensive. You do it. Oh,
00:29:36.000he doesn't want to do that because it's going to crash his economy? Yeah. How did you figure
00:29:40.140that one out, dummy? Yeah, of course you can't do that. I thought Ezra Levant had a really good
00:29:44.920take on all of this. He responded to that news reporter's tweet about what Doug Ford had
00:29:50.840proposed. He said, Premier Daniel Smith should take the phone call with Doug Ford because that's
00:29:55.420the collegial thing to do. But she should say very little on the call, knowing that whatever
00:29:59.640she says, Ford will immediately blab about, distort it, and try and twist it into an anti-Trump
00:30:03.760message. That's what Ford wants, to convert Smith in Alberta from being constructive and solutions
00:30:09.220oriented into copying his disaster scheme of impotent tantrums and personal attacks. Ford feels
00:30:15.200pretty good now because he's on CNN again and the regime media couldn't be happier with his
00:30:19.340Trump derangement syndrome, since they're afflicted by it too. But pretty soon the job
00:30:24.360losses are going to kick in and calling Trump names will be boring to the press and Ford will
00:30:28.620have to do something, you know, governing. For weeks, Ford has said that he wants to somehow
00:30:33.360cancel exports of oil and potash in the United States. Someone has gently educated him that,
00:30:38.700in fact, Ontario has neither. Those are owned by the people of Alberta and Saskatchewan.
00:30:43.840He wants somehow for Smith and Scott Moe to agree to sacrifice their industries because Ford
00:30:49.480hasn't been able to take care of his own. But it's not just that Ford wants Smith to
00:30:55.240join the two minutes of hate screaming match. Unlike Ford, Smith has spent the last 18 months
00:31:01.320building a professional, amicable, productive relationship with the U.S. administration
00:31:05.640and the minority party, starting with her visit to Washington during Trump's inauguration.
00:31:11.980Smith is a living repudiation of the Carney-Ford failure. Alberta shows that it's possible to work
00:31:17.480with Trump and succeed, and don't think for a second that Carney doesn't approve of Ford's
00:31:22.800bad cop routine against Trump and soon if be against Smith too. Ford wants to burn the whole
00:31:28.340place down. Ford has managed to turn Ontario into a have-not province once unthinkable. Now he's
00:31:33.680coming for Alberta's oil patch in Saskatchewan's mines. Smith should listen politely to Ford and
00:31:38.380get off the phone as quickly as possible. Absolutely, I thought that is a very clear-eyed
00:31:43.280suggestion by Ezra Levant. Doug Ford is a drowning man. David Eby and Mark Carney are not far behind
00:31:52.200them. If they ask you for something, listen, nod, give them a little Mona Lisa smile.
00:31:59.220And then let them go spin off somewhere else. We do not need them to, like, they are detriments.
00:32:07.620They are obstacles to getting a deal. And you could say there are Trump officials that are
00:32:11.880obstacles to getting a good deal. But so far, it seems like although they have idiots who sometimes
00:32:17.120say stupid things, they're keeping their idiots a little bit more in line. Again, people always
00:32:21.620want to go off to the initial instigating event. Donald Trump put tariffs on us. Okay, that's the
00:32:28.680board game we're currently playing. Tariffs are on us. That is the prologue. Now, how do we get
00:32:33.900them off? Every time Mark Carney fails, he can't just say, well, he put tariffs on us. You signed
00:32:39.860up to get the tariffs off. You said you know how to negotiate with this guy. So what are you doing,
00:32:45.640man, can we get anything? Can we get literally any deal? Or are you always just going to be able
00:32:52.060to deflect your failure and say, you know, they've been very mean to us. Okay, what's new?
00:32:58.000How do we get a deal? So people have jobs and can, you know, eat food, you know, that thing that
00:33:04.040maybe the robot Mark Carney doesn't need. So people can eat food, you know, with, you know,
00:33:09.020silverware and the fork, they do this motion with it. Can we do that? That would be really,
00:33:14.180really nice. But now I got to move on to another post. I thought it was good that
00:33:19.540Pierre Polyev is backing the play that his Canada-U.S. relations critic, Shovloy Majumdar,
00:33:26.760is making. Shovloy Majumdar yesterday, our Canada-U.S. relations critic, has been calling on
00:33:32.780Carney to reveal the text of the deal. And this is going to be the main political theme in Canada
00:33:37.520from the Conservatives' perspective, probably for at least the next few days, if not the next several
00:33:42.940weeks or forever because I don't think Carney's going to release the deal. If the deal was
00:33:49.720objectively bad, we would already see it right in front of us and we would show it was an insult
00:33:54.120to Canadians and Carney was right to walk away. On day one when he walked away, I even said maybe
00:33:59.280it was good for him to walk away based on the leaks we got from the media, which now seemed
00:34:03.440like they could be inaccurate. It did seem like a bad deal. But now show us it was a bad deal.
00:34:08.760If, in fact, it would hurt Trump if his own people said, oh, my goodness, we would never accept 25% tariffs and 15% tariffs, I can kind of see why the Canadians said no.
00:34:19.520Hurt him if you want to show he's unreasonable.
00:34:22.040But Pierre Polyvere, the federal conservative party leader, echoing Chauvelin Majumdar's What's the Deal, Post says we need to see the deal.
00:34:34.020Canadians deserve to see it because we need to see if Carney is fibbing or not.
00:34:38.280I am not putting up with this garbage where we're just supposed to say, you don't need to see the deal. Of course you don't need to see the deal. It's governmentized only. And in fact, if you think the government's lying, you're disloyal. You're not a true Canadian if you actually want things to be verified.
00:34:56.720Demetrius Soudis, who somehow used to work for Stephen Harper in a different era,
00:35:02.400maybe he got body snatched and this is a different person now.
00:35:49.880it wasn't an official deal so they shouldn't show it to us
00:35:54.560but they're making a claim about something that was in it that seems to be in dispute
00:36:00.560i don't even know what to say like dimitri sutis dumbest post of the day congratulations
00:36:06.320i didn't think it was possible i just want to jump over and i'm not trying to just complain
00:36:10.480about people who had uh said things to me but i was getting these ridiculous posts from people
00:36:16.640uh yesterday and i just want to show you just how stupid some of these things were0.50
00:36:22.000that i was seeing yesterday of people basically attacking me and others for you know believing
00:36:28.000that we should actually be able to see this thing and think it's not unpatriotic to ask
00:36:33.040i just had to pause for a quick second there to be able to find the post so
00:36:36.240yesterday when i posted the link to the show on x follow me on x by the way if you don't already
00:36:41.520why claypool and x obviously uh i you know just posted the video of my uh of like you know my
00:36:49.280my YouTube video talking about whether or not Mark Carney might be lying about what's in the
00:36:52.840agreement. And this person named Hammer, and I'm not just trying to pick on an anonymous account
00:36:57.900and pretend that this represents a lot of opinions when it doesn't. This was a frequent,
00:37:05.300a frequent reply I got from even people I'm actually kind of friendly with. Even Al Zoltan
00:37:11.380was kind of echoing this whole, oh, so you agree, you trust the Americans more than the
00:37:16.460Canadian government? It's not about that. I don't trust Mark Carney. He's lied before and he's
00:37:21.160making a big claim that requires evidence. But this Hammer person said, in response to me basically
00:37:26.700saying that there's a potentiality that Mark Carney lied, Hammer says, you're going to believe
00:37:32.680the Trump administration over your own government? You're kidding me, right? Trump? To which I said,
00:37:39.100I trust the evidence. So far, we don't have enough evidence for me to conclude who is right and
00:37:44.380wrong here. We need to see the deal. I don't work for the Canadian government. They're supposed to
00:37:49.500be loyal to the citizens and give us the straight truth on the deal. Because there's all these
00:37:53.740people doing this loyalty testing. Like, we as citizens in Canada are supposed to be loyal to
00:37:59.240the government before the government's supposed to be loyal to us. I think that Canadians are
00:38:04.940supposed to be loyal to, you know, each other, to our values, to the best interests of our country,
00:38:11.500And that's what we elect the government to do, to represent our best interests. I'm not supposed to just take Mark Carney's word for it, as if I've been enlisted in the Mark Carney militia. I'm supposed to actually ask critical questions about what Mark Carney may or may not have done, especially when jobs are on the line.
00:38:31.000like we have people's families and their homes and everything on the line you know that when you
00:38:38.020have big upticks in unemployment the suicide rate goes up thanks mark carney hope the cbc gem money
00:38:45.400really is worth it having all these people lose their jobs in these critical industries because
00:38:50.860you didn't want to feel like you were like getting one that the americans got one over on you now
00:38:56.200Jasmine Lane posted this yesterday. And if true, and I know generally who her sources tend to be, and I have a decent amount of trust in them, could be wrong. And I do want to get to the Mark Warner thing a bit later. There's just so much stuff to cover. But if this is true, what Jasmine Lane is saying from the sources she has, this should end Mark Carney's government.
00:39:17.020she says here did you know that carney's negotiators were repeatedly brought up the
00:39:23.920liberal party polling during tariff relief talks mentioning quote if we do this we'll go down five
00:39:30.980points etc that's actually driving the negotiation is what's actually driving the negotiating
00:39:36.620position not the national interest but the next election rumor has it the carney is planning on
00:39:41.340calling a snap election to consolidate his power some more while the his strategy of suffering for
00:39:46.040the people and savior complex for him pays off. Now, I've had some people and even some MPs
00:39:51.860speculating that that might be what Carney's doing simply because they were bringing up polling.
00:39:56.480I don't think it means that there's going to be a snap election. I think what it means
00:40:00.200is that the liberals know if they make a deal with Trump, it's not just that it'll hurt them
00:40:04.380in the short run. Permanently, they will go down 5% because they will lose a bunch of the insane
00:40:17.400because the only reason the liberals are as popular as they are is because of dumb anti-Trump
00:40:22.860politics. You can like or dislike Trump. You can hate Donald Trump, but it's not an actual coherent
00:40:29.320strategy for the national interest to just base everything you do off of hatred of Trump and
00:40:34.700wanting him to cosmically lose in some way against us and being willing to hurt ourselves just to
00:40:40.680make him lose in some way. So I think that's more of what's going on. It doesn't mean a snap election
00:40:45.340is going to happen. It's that it's even more fundamental that the liberals may not be able
00:40:49.980to recover their actual, they might not be able to recover their votes if Mark Carney makes a deal.
00:40:56.440They might not be able to recover that 5% ever. I'm not going to play all of this. It was a great
00:41:01.260interview, and I want to highlight it later. Mark Warner here, or Mark Warren, I think it might be
00:41:06.960Mark Warren, a guy on the right here, absolutely clear-eyed analysis on the CBC to the point you
00:41:13.520think he must have snuck onto the TV channel and hacked his way in, because what he says here is
00:41:18.660absolutely perfectly put about Doug Ford and Mark Carney and other premiers bluster about the
00:41:25.420leverage Canada has on the United States. It's not anti-patriotic to have an accurate view of the
00:41:30.300position that we're in and it unraveled. Mark, one of the concessions, and look, none of us have
00:41:36.620those who weren't inside the table or directly connected to the governments involved. No one
00:41:41.840has the actual text of what was being proposed here. But one of the suggestions coming out of
00:41:47.180that is that the Americans wanted some control over who Canada did trade deals with. And we can
00:41:52.940read into that China um why should Canada agree to essentially handle actually our our ambassador
00:42:02.180can Canada's ambassador to the United States Mark Wiseman he's been going around trying to deny oh
00:42:06.140it's not about China or any other country I'm like then who is it about idiot come on it's
00:42:10.640obviously going to be about China even the CBC assumes it's about China over some sovereignty
00:42:15.380to the Americans in giving them the veto over who we should have trade agreements with yes
00:42:22.920So first of all, we did in Article 3210 of the KUSMA agree to essentially say that if Canada wanted to enter into a trade agreement, a free trade agreement with a non-market economy, we would have to give all of our parties.
00:42:36.680But really, let's be frank, we're talking about the United States notice, and they would be able to get out.
00:42:41.080The United States, since that time, they would probably think of strengthening the language that they would use in some of the other agreements they've since signed.
00:42:49.340So the way that that's being portrayed by Mr. Cartier in his speech, I think it seems a little disingenuous to me, to be honest, given that we have 3210 already in Kuzma.
00:42:57.940We'll have to see exactly the text and the language that was being proposed.
00:43:01.520But the basic concept, though, I think you and I have talked about this before.
00:43:05.940You know, if you look at the European Union, when I got out of law school, it was called the European Communities.
00:43:11.760and at a certain point in time roughly around the same amount of time interesting enough
00:43:17.020between when we had the NAFTA and now the bigger parties in that arrangement said guys we've got
00:43:22.760to actually firm this up a bit we can't have you guys doing your own your own your own going your
00:43:28.060own way and they strengthen their customs union so although we look at it differently in Canada
00:43:32.320it's not so extraordinary I would say that a bigger party would say now that I'm facing more
00:43:39.320competition from china i want you guys in return for this market access to the world's biggest0.98
00:43:44.840market i want you to do more now we don't have to like that we don't have to go along with it mr
00:43:49.400carney uh does not like it um you know i you know there's a lot more i would say about that that i
00:43:55.560think people should look through because he didn't live through the 1988 free trade thing in the way
00:44:01.160that i did he wasn't living in the country mark warren uh warner here i did check his name that
00:44:08.120he is so good on this because that is an actual clear-eyed view of trade you can say i don't like
00:44:16.280the u.s telling us what to do happens everywhere happens in the eu between smaller countries
00:44:21.720telling each other what to do to uh like a continental body telling countries who they
00:44:27.400can and can't trade with or at the very least who they have to check in with
00:44:30.440before they can have that free trade agreement approved of and if america right now on the world
00:44:35.720stage is is defending their hegemony from communist china they might be a little worried about canada0.79
00:44:43.320just allowing chinese ev dumping in our markets and trying to culturally integrate and have0.89
00:44:48.440security integration with communist china and people can say well they trade with communist0.97
00:44:53.000china yeah but they pay the hypocrisy tax because they pay for national security for most countries0.57
00:44:58.520on the planet for most western countries america is their biggest national security backer they0.93
00:45:55.680Because right now, a lot of them get shipped through the U.S.
00:45:59.180Oh, you want to cut off electricity sales from the Atlantic?
00:46:02.320How about they close the pipeline that brings oil and gas from the West under the Great Lakes into Ontario?
00:46:07.920But Mark, if I can interrupt for a second, we heard from even farmers in Iowa who are complaining about what these negotiations are doing to their businesses.
00:46:25.220But the whole point is in a hardball negotiation where you're saying, I'm willing to shoot myself in the foot as long as I get to shoot you in the thigh in order to pressure you to make a deal.
00:46:35.200That is irrelevant that there are also people complaining in Canada.
00:46:39.700His point is that, yes, there are going to be people on both sides of the border who don't like this.
00:46:44.360There are going to be pressures on the Americans.
00:46:46.240But he says that the whole point is all these premiers talking about all the ways we can get leverage on the U.S. are not realistic at all.
00:46:52.840there is a ripple effect even it's hurting canadians but certainly those hurts the cost
00:47:00.160the inflation the rising prices americans are feeling that can't well can't our negotiators
00:47:06.460just a fluff non-response to what mark warner is saying mark warner is saying we do not have
00:47:12.760the tools in the toolbox that we claim that we have and this guy's saying well americas are
00:47:16.840americans are annoyed too okay and what's what's how are you correcting or responding to anything0.64
00:47:24.540mark warner is saying and you're the host shut up use that in some way no no and i'd say this
00:47:30.360you know what the real evidence of that since 1984 we've had the fire producers of softwood
00:47:36.160lumber have faced tariffs from the united states countervailing duties and anti-dumping duties
00:47:40.540and canadians go down there all the time and they say it's increasing the cost of your housing
00:47:46.120guess what? The tariffs are still in place. We don't listen to American politicians when they
00:47:51.720tell us that dairy supply management increased costs to Canadians. We don't listen to Americans
00:47:57.560when they tell us that our digital trade policy basically reduces the choices to consumers.
00:48:04.760The strangest part about the way we are negotiating trade agreements since the last
00:48:09.320great one in the end of the 1980s is our negotiators enter into trade negotiations
00:48:13.720with one hand tied behind their back they only define a canadian win as a producer interest
00:48:20.280they completely forget about consumers on the other hand as you just said they when they look
00:48:25.120across the border they make alliances with american consumers we don't listen to people
00:48:30.040who lecture us about what's in our consumer interest and they don't listen to us now i want
00:48:36.160pure poly of to be the prime minister of canada but i kind of like mark warner being the prime
00:48:41.460minister as well at the same time. I think we need to make a deal where you make the Mark Warner
00:48:46.280party and he gets one seat and he becomes co-prime minister with Pierre Polyev with his Mark Warner
00:48:52.320party one seat. We'll give him none of it. Brilliant. Brilliantly said. And I hope people
00:48:58.300who watch the CBC take notice about him pointing out the hypocrisy, the just magical thinking that
00:49:06.160tends to animate much of our trade sort of approach listen to him if you're watching the
00:49:13.680cbc really listen don't be like oh he's defending the americans i'm not listening
00:49:17.400listen he wants canada to win more than you do you just hate donald trump which is different
00:49:24.640you not wanting america to win is not the same thing as you wanting canada to win
00:49:28.500i want canada to win liberals want america to lose that is not the same thing canadians
00:49:35.100America losing. In fact, it probably means Canada loses too. Canada winning kind of requires America
00:49:41.120to win too. I know emotionally you don't want it to happen. It's going to happen. Anyways, with all
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