The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - September 07, 2026


We Refuse To Cheer For Mark Carney So They Attacked Us!


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00:00:00.000 Have you guys noticed this very obvious propaganda play going on over the last year by liberals and red Tories
00:00:07.200 to try and disconnect the Conservative Party and Piripolyev from conservative influencers?
00:00:14.740 Which in itself is basically a smear term against people like myself and Jasmine Lane and Mario Zelaya and Chris Baker
00:00:22.600 and you guys can probably name a dozen other individuals.
00:00:26.700 It's acting as if we are the equivalent of people who are given free products in order to promote them
00:00:32.680 or paid to go to a restaurant in order to say the food's good and you should go here.
00:00:37.300 None of us do anything like that.
00:00:39.040 I would say that we are content creators or political commentators.
00:00:44.040 I am both a political commentator and a strategist.
00:00:48.200 I work for the 1BC party and Dallas Brody in the BC legislature and I also happen to make videos.
00:00:55.020 but they use the term influencer to make everyone seem very shallow and basically like they're some
00:01:01.080 puppet of the party. At the same time, all these people who, again, want the Conservative Party or
00:01:07.780 at least Pierre Polyev to fail are telling them to not have any association with those who the
00:01:15.140 Conservative base watches. I'm not saying I'm hyper-influential or anything like that. I, again,
00:01:21.800 reject their term influencer people watch me because they agree with me or maybe because
00:01:27.080 they find the content interesting it's a small niche of the actual canadian population but if
00:01:33.640 you put all of the conservative content creators together it actually represents quite a large
00:01:38.920 chunk of average canadians and so when the liberals and red tories are trying to tell
00:01:44.440 the conservatives to drop us even though they never had us in the first place we simply basically
00:01:50.680 travel in the same bus because we believe in the same things really what they're trying to do is
00:01:56.360 trick polyev and the conservatives into getting cold feet about people who make videos to
00:02:01.800 disconnect them even more from their base because it makes it easier either to beat the conservatives
00:02:07.880 or to remove peer polyev from office and replace him with somebody like doug ford or jason kenny
00:02:13.960 or mark mulrooney or somebody else who doesn't actually want to talk about cultural or social
00:02:20.040 issues and really isn't even that ambitious when it comes to fiscal issues i need to show you guys
00:02:26.280 this video from the curse of politics podcast hosted by david hurley up there in the top left
00:02:33.380 corner the guy who looks most like a lawn gnome although all three men in this panel are doing
00:02:38.940 their best to emulate one they actually brought up yours truly me as an influencer but then
00:02:46.960 contradict themselves by actually noting the fact that i pushed my own ideas about what the
00:02:52.960 conservative party should do when it comes to their platform check this out well they're they're
00:02:59.840 social media influencers a new breed of political creature uh that has for the most part never been
00:03:07.600 involved in politics so the fact that they don't understand campaigns or they don't give about any
00:03:11.840 of that uh is i think you know definitionally part of who they are and what are they doing
00:03:17.840 they're chasing play pool has never run on a provincial or national election campaign
00:03:23.120 well what a shock uh look you know there is a collection of people who who you know uh i think
00:03:32.480 have personality disorders or brain injuries i do like how the signals how much i am under the skin
00:03:40.160 of david hurley and cory tanike there is probably as well as probably scott reed and i don't know
00:03:45.420 who the other woman here is um how am i an influencer at the same time i'm the person
00:03:51.680 on social media giving advice putting out ideas about how conservatives should campaign
00:03:57.240 because those two things contradict each other influencers do not have their own ideas they do
00:04:02.940 not promote their own thoughts they simply echo what the party already thinks and i do not do that
00:04:09.640 And by the way, I have run campaigns. I have run my own campaign for a federal conservative party nomination, which I was kicked out of because at the time somebody in the party didn't want me to win, and I've been assured by people on the ground I was winning, and that's why they kicked me out of the race. I had like a thousand supporters.
00:04:29.400 I was the campaign manager for Bruce Bandman for much of the 2024 BC provincial election,
00:04:36.640 and then I later moved on to doing organizing for other campaigns, including helping Lawrence
00:04:42.780 Mock, the conservative MLA, get across the finish line in his first election by just about 100 votes
00:04:50.660 in Maple Ridge East. I know how campaigns work. I know all these guys like to pretend that they're
00:04:57.040 wizards who only they understand the special hidden knowledge around how to put a press release out,
00:05:03.000 put together a platform, compile a list of target ridings that you're going to try and win to form
00:05:08.560 government, and how to actually implement talking points and campaign, you know, advertising
00:05:14.040 strategies. It's not that complicated. Yes, it's one of those things where it's kind of easy to
00:05:19.160 wrap your mind around what it takes, but then it gets more complicated in terms of figuring out
00:05:24.260 what's effective but how about actually name one of my ideas that's bad and debunk it whereas they
00:05:31.060 just kind of do this mocking dismissive thing where they say oh you know so why you're saying
00:05:36.180 why claypool's never run a national or provincial campaign like if they're saying that i've never
00:05:41.840 run like literally been like the campaign manager for a provincial wide campaign or for a national
00:05:48.260 campaign you got me i've never done that before because it is a vanishingly small group of people
00:05:55.560 who have ever done that if you make the scope of what you're talking about that narrow if you're
00:06:00.720 more general have you ever run a campaign have you ever run volunteers have you ever hit a lot
00:06:05.680 of doors and put together a messaging campaign and done stuff like that obviously i have i'm the
00:06:11.920 communications director for 1bc and at one point we got up to 11 support with 1mla because we had
00:06:20.720 good messaging we had a good platform we knew how to message to people we worked hard but again
00:06:26.260 these guys are just trying to mock the idea of quote-unquote influencers not because they want
00:06:32.260 to help out pure poly of cory to nike hates pure poly of scott reed was a campaign manager up in
00:06:39.200 the top right corner there for justin trudeau and other people david hurley was the campaign manager
00:06:44.620 for paul martin and the lady in the left is probably i don't know she's probably fidel
00:06:49.580 castro's campaign manager based on how left-wing all these people associations tend to be a bit
00:06:54.900 of a joke there i know cory tonight will say he's a conservative or whatever yes he used to work for
00:07:00.480 stephen harper fair enough you know maybe he did good work but his latest campaign credits are like
00:07:07.580 Doug Ford. I'm sorry, winning with Doug Ford is not an accomplishment, because that's like
00:07:13.380 beating your seven-year-old brother in a video game he's never played before, and you're 16
00:07:18.260 years old. That's not impressive. Doug Ford's up against people like Bonnie Crombie, Stephen Del
00:07:24.960 Duca, Kathleen Wynne in the absolute dog days of her political career, Andrea Horvath twice,
00:07:32.220 and merit styles who looked like she was cloned from a piece of bonnie crombie but also told to
00:07:38.660 not be nearly as interesting as bonnie crombie who is not interesting at all and most recently
00:07:44.700 cory tonight was running the campaign of caroline elliott for the bc conservative leadership race
00:07:50.260 she in fact spent the most out of all the candidates probably spent more than a lot of
00:07:55.640 candidates combined and she lost to carrie lynn finley who spent the least amount out of all the
00:08:03.800 candidates who were on the final ballot she beat caroline elliott who raised two and a half million
00:08:10.200 dollars and klf only spent around 530 000 on her entire campaign now we don't actually know what
00:08:17.320 caroline elliott spent because despite paying her over her bloated staff lots of money to run the
00:08:22.600 the campaign they couldn't actually file their finances in time so you know good job there cory
00:08:28.780 but the thing is that this has extended well past these people just going after me they love to go
00:08:33.820 after the pleb they love to go after mario zalea mark nixon uh jasmine lane and all of it is not
00:08:41.220 because they want the conservatives to win it's because the influencers content creators and
00:08:47.020 commentators do actually tend to represent the base not in terms of the base follows around
00:08:52.100 people like myself simply because i make videos you probably only watch me because i make sense
00:08:57.060 and i probably say many of the things that you already believe not just that you're here for
00:09:01.240 confirmation bias but you know we believe in the same things you maybe like the way i explain stuff
00:09:06.480 and whatnot and it gives you a good flow of information they hate that because the only way
00:09:11.880 that these people are going to be able to consistently win campaigns is if people are
00:09:17.200 reliant on the mainstream media in terms of what the liberals want and that's how they did win the
00:09:21.520 25 election they got a lot of people basically willing to listen to the mainstream media because
00:09:26.940 of trump and then when it comes to the red tories like uh cory tonight what they want is for the
00:09:34.040 influencers to go away because they can't win leadership elections anymore moose on the loose
00:09:39.060 david is a large reason why carrie lynn finley won probably mark nixon as well she only won by
00:09:45.800 about 60 votes which sounds thin but when you consider the fact that she was at a big spending
00:09:50.560 disadvantage compared to every other candidate he probably made quite a bit of a difference
00:09:55.840 including people like mark nixon including people like britney on x those people did a lot for their
00:10:02.560 momentum cory tonight can't win with these people so in the media they've been smearing people who
00:10:07.920 make content and saying that pure poly is a bad terrible man because he doesn't like i guess
00:10:14.680 backhand us which is funny because i don't agree with pure poly of all the time you will know that
00:10:20.040 I frequently criticize the conservative party, not because I'm some sort of brutal puritan who
00:10:26.280 doesn't actually, you know, I'm some person like sitting around like demanding perfection. It's
00:10:31.360 just when I see something that's flawed, I criticize it. And then I come with my own solution,
00:10:35.900 like my 20% across the board, including corporate tax, tax cut. I thought this was a funny post by
00:10:43.120 Mo Amir, who in no way is a conservative. In fact, he is an openly self-declared woke,
00:10:49.480 liberal guy, woke leftist. Moe was making fun of all these people who are going after the content
00:10:57.220 creators, the influencers, and he said, Substack conservatives writing bloviated essays to each
00:11:03.660 other on why the normies won't take them seriously while they disown the influencer class they spent
00:11:09.400 years legitimizing. Now, I know a lot of people took this as, like, negative from Moe Amir.
00:11:14.360 Definitely, even though I get along with Mo, he's not a fan of my beliefs and my content, but what he was doing is going after all these people who, when the influencers, when the content creators were in favor of or were part of the same movement as they were, they were happy with them.
00:11:30.840 But as soon as you stop doing what these sort of like cocktail party red Tory consultants and strategists want, now you're trash.
00:11:41.060 really what this is all about is all these guys got so used to walking around political convention
00:11:46.500 floors squiring delegates around shaking hands with people and telling them who they should be
00:11:51.580 voting for in order to you know have the best conservative party or whatever in order to get
00:11:57.300 the right person in you know in charge of the party to be able to beat the liberals and the
00:12:02.660 influencers the content creators weren't really a thing until after the 2021 federal election and
00:12:10.120 how did the red Tory consultants and strategists do badly they lost 2015 they lost 2019 and they
00:12:18.960 lost 2021 and 2025 was an extremely close election and in fact if the conservative party listened
00:12:25.760 more to the base which does get which is fairly represented by a lot of the content creators
00:12:32.600 they probably would have won by running on a bolder platform.
00:12:37.740 But yeah, it's funny, all these guys writing these sub-static articles about how bad we are,
00:12:43.220 as if literally having influence, whether having an audience is somehow a bad thing,
00:12:48.020 they don't actually care.
00:12:49.060 They're just mad that they no longer can basically force people to vote the way they want to
00:12:54.240 in very closed social circle leadership races and convention floor votes.
00:13:01.340 Here is Jason Kenney reacting to this poll out from Leger and asked,
00:13:05.020 are you proud to be a Canadian?
00:13:06.380 And 83% of people say they are proud, 13% say not proud,
00:13:10.720 and there's probably some margin in there of people who are just undecided or didn't want to answer.
00:13:15.520 And, of course, Jason Kenney takes this opportunity to, again, attack influencers.
00:13:20.680 Good reminder, most of the online Canadian right-wing influencers are in the 13%.
00:13:27.180 Freaking citation?
00:13:29.840 what no i'm proud to be a canadian i'm a patriotic canadian and that's what empowers me to be allowed
00:13:38.200 to criticize mark carney i like freedoms that we have in canada to criticize incompetent government
00:13:44.500 officials i will criticize mark carney's trade strategy if that makes me some sort of a traitor
00:13:50.980 like oh my goodness how how narrow is the definition of what makes you a loyalist what
00:13:56.380 makes you a proud canadian just agreeing with mark carney all the time that's what you have to do or
00:14:01.740 now you're somehow like siding against the nation and this is a theme i've even been seeing other
00:14:08.100 people who make content on the right starting to pick up adam beady who is robin skies on tiktok
00:14:14.100 even penned an article the national post at one point trying to argue you know like from the
00:14:19.560 perspective of a content creator myself all these other people out there they're very bad and and
00:14:25.140 they're alienating the normal voter and whatnot which is very funny for him to say one he actually
00:14:30.900 isn't very popular in any way i'm not trying to like dunk on him in an unfair way but i always
00:14:36.340 like whenever somebody who doesn't really create that much content that and people don't really
00:14:40.200 watch that much comes out to tell us why we're all actually doing it very bad it from his
00:14:45.080 perspective it's like okay whatever dude you tried to use your your influential powers to get
00:14:51.540 Caroline Elliott elected except you were actually paid by her to do that I've never been paid to
00:14:56.600 promote a politician and he's now coming out here to say that all of us quote-unquote influencers
00:15:01.620 are bad and Pierre Polyev needs to you know push us aside because we are alienating voters or
00:15:07.740 whatever and he should be more like Mark Carney which will guarantee Polyev loses because who
00:15:13.220 wants so if you like Carney why are you going to vote for other Carney if you already have an
00:15:18.060 incumbent Carney. It makes no sense whatsoever. Now I want to move on to a post that just came
00:15:24.940 out this afternoon that, again, is this kind of like anti-influencer type position that's now
00:15:32.440 coming out from people like Harrison Faulkner. I don't understand what he's really trying to do
00:15:39.160 here. I find this entire post irrational from him. He posts this, and again, it's this whole idea that
00:15:45.400 If you criticize Mark Carney, even though Harrison Faulkner is apparently a conservative, you're somehow anti the country.
00:15:51.680 And it's always this kind of subtle implication. It's the influencer class who's like, I guess, bending over backwards to Donald Trump.
00:16:00.460 And we don't actually care about the country like like people like he like people like Harrison Faulkner do.
00:16:05.680 People like Rupa Supramania, people like Spencer Fernando, they all care about the country more than us because they refuse to criticize incoherent trade strategy.
00:16:16.400 So Harrison here says, many of the people who are demanding that Canada sign whatever deal Donald Trump puts in front of our leaders have accepted the idea that a nation is just some economic zone where prosperity is defined solely on GDP and whether the line goes up.
00:16:32.600 There is far more to prosperity of a nation than simply its gross domestic product. Sovereignty, identity, and culture actually matter. It's like, oh wow, culture actually matters? Identity matters? Sovereignty matters? Who's arguing against that? Nobody from the influencer space has said that they should just sign whatever Donald Trump puts in front of them.
00:16:56.300 my position has been carney has been deliberately not even trying to get to a good deal because he
00:17:02.620 doesn't want to sign any deal because the elbows up base doesn't want to sign any deal with the
00:17:07.540 americans and so carney strategically basically negotiating deliberately flawed deals that give
00:17:14.620 him the social license to walk away from them because if he walks away from a good deal most
00:17:20.000 canadians will be like goodness dude just sign that that seems perfectly fine for at least the
00:17:25.520 medium term for us just sign the thing but if he signs a good deal the elbows up people like
00:17:29.800 laura babcock and illyria a and klaus kellerman will be mad at him or a lot of these kind of like
00:17:35.920 silent elbows up voters who are not as public they'll go over to the ndp or the bloc kebecois
00:17:41.200 or the greens and so we're in this weird catch-22 situation that's my position on the trade deal i
00:17:48.740 want lower tariffs but this whole idea that we should just take hook line and sinker mark carney's
00:17:54.320 line that the Americans were trying to undermine the French language and Canadian culture
00:17:58.080 in the negotiations is ridiculous. That is irrational. Why are we going to be so gullible
00:18:05.140 to assume that Mark Carney, like he was just telling us the absolute gospel truth that Trump
00:18:11.460 wants to like destroy Canada in some way on a cultural level and like annex us into just being
00:18:17.460 some economic zone of the Americans? This was my response to it, which I think is a pretty good way
00:18:22.840 of putting it. If we run an incoherent trade strategy that fails to get a good deal with the
00:18:30.460 USA, in part because Carney liberals won't budge on stuff like C-11, C-18 in China, that's a big
00:18:36.400 problem. Sovereignty identity and cultural actually matter, but Harrison here is using those concepts
00:18:42.580 as a counterpoint to the idea that economy should matter at all. People need to work, families need
00:18:48.140 to eat and have stable housing. Mark Carney is incapable of getting a good deal because he won't
00:18:52.620 play real hardball for the things Canadians actually want, which is lower tariffs on things
00:18:56.960 like aluminum and steel. If he pushed for a good deal, then the elbows-up liberals would potentially
00:19:02.340 turn on him if he signed it, but business liberals would be mad if he walked away from a good deal.
00:19:07.400 So he deliberately does a poor job negotiating, drawing incoherent red lines around things that
00:19:13.360 could be used to get a good deal, so he can feel empowered to walk away from a flawed deal he helped
00:19:18.460 create, thus keeping both sides of his coalition either happy or at least not rebelling. Nobody
00:19:23.380 wants Canada to sign whatever deal Donald Trump puts in front of our leaders. We want a coherent
00:19:28.080 strategy to get a deal worth signing, which Carney and Faulkner don't seem interested in doing.
00:19:35.680 Harrison needs to realize that you cannot run an economy on manufacturing red ensign flags
00:19:43.500 and pictures of King Charles. CBC Gem is not going to save the Canadian economy, in fact.
00:19:50.480 I'm sorry, getting rid of censorship policies like C-11 and C-18 in exchange for lower tariff
00:19:56.140 rates seems okay for me. I would rip up the China deal in order to get a better deal with the United
00:20:02.760 States. And we can have all these people saying, oh my goodness, Trump and the Americans shouldn't
00:20:06.800 be able to tell us who to trade with. What do you think a negotiation is? Two sides agreeing with
00:20:12.300 each other no it's two sides trying to get each other to do something that they otherwise wouldn't
00:20:18.040 do without be something being offered or demanded or threatened that's how you come to a deal doesn't
00:20:23.520 mean you have to like it i don't like the tariffs they're really stupid but we shouldn't be just
00:20:28.260 falling into this ridiculous sort of idea that somehow belief and support of the canadian
00:20:34.620 government in anything that they do is like a fundamental canadian value but the problem is
00:20:40.440 people like Jason Kenney, Spencer Fernando, Rupert Supramania, Harrison Faulkner, Corey
00:20:46.160 Tanike, Mark Marison, not all these people are conservatives, I'm naming liberals too,
00:20:50.440 David Hurley, who else is out there, you know, Andrew Coyne, anyone on the CBC pretty much,
00:20:57.180 they're defining what it means to be a Canadian as not being the Americans and agreeing with the
00:21:02.360 Canadian government over the American government. I'm not agreeing with the American government in
00:21:06.820 any of my content in the sense that i'm not just choosing to agree with them i might agree with
00:21:11.980 something they say here or there i also disagree with many of the things that they say apparently
00:21:16.420 nuance is now traitorous in canada according to the cultural conservatives who are really just the
00:21:22.640 red rebranded red tories hey i like john a mcdonald i like wilford laurier i like all those
00:21:29.820 people. Also, I think we should actually embrace a conservative ideology rather than citing the
00:21:37.180 fact that back in the 1880s, we were very skeptical of the Americans and we didn't trade much with
00:21:42.340 them. Yes, it was the 1880s when subsistent farming was the vast majority of what Canada did.
00:21:49.320 Of course, we didn't export much. We didn't have much left at the end of the day to export.
00:21:53.780 I'm sorry, but like, don't base your vision of what Canada should be on John A. Macdonald. Do Americans base what America should be on what Chester A. Arthur thought? Everything changes.
00:22:06.860 And the thing is that back in the day, the difference between the Progressive Conservative Party in the 19th century and the Liberal Party was basically Protestants versus Catholics.
00:22:20.640 It was the French Catholic Quebec Party for the Liberals, and it was the Protestant Anglican Party for the Conservatives in Ontario and out west.
00:22:30.460 That was pretty much it.
00:22:31.820 I'm sorry, we can't really base a national ideology or a political party's ideology based on what John A. MacDonald thought in an era of, like, railroad corruption and, like, people trying to carve out the boundaries of Canada.
00:22:45.300 Good job on that part, by the way. Really good job. Round of applause for John A. MacDonald. I like the guy. He does good stuff.
00:22:51.540 But he didn't exactly ever model a full national ideology or conservative ideology in his time of office. He wasn't exactly, like, you know, you weren't exactly looking at a, like, what's a good one, Adam Smith type figure.
00:23:09.740 We weren't exactly looking at a Disraeli-type figure at the time. It was a country basically struggling to become a thing, take full sovereignty over its territory, increase the amount of provinces and whatnot.
00:23:24.360 But trying to pretend like he had a big coherent ideology is like going to some of the more minor presidents and saying that the Republican Party or the Democratic Party should embrace what, you know, what Pierce thought or what Andrew Johnson thought or I don't know who else, you know, Hayes, Ulysses S. Grant as president.
00:23:44.500 It would be like saying we need to reembrace the ideology of Ulysses S. Grant and the Republican Party.
00:23:50.040 Like, what are you talking about? Corruption? You know, some of the minor reconstruction era.
00:23:55.180 How does that have anything to do with today? I'm not saying to deny history, but I really do not like this kind of idea that it's only good conservative thought.
00:24:04.360 If you can kind of tie it back to like Charles Tupper or some early prime minister or whatever.
00:24:10.040 Guys, it just wasn't the same world. That doesn't mean that we throw things out. It just means that if there's gaps in the ideology that don't apply to the modern day, you maybe shouldn't utilize it. You shouldn't try and fill in what is not there. Free trade is a good thing.
00:24:26.240 But now we have all these, frankly, idiots from places like the Dominion Society who are now arguing against free trade. Because did you know back in the day we didn't do free trade? Okay, okay, guys, yeah, sure, whatever. And then the Dominion Society is going to tell us that they're the solution to the immigration problem because they're arguing for remigration and taking citizenships away from brown people.
00:24:52.560 And it's like, guys, you can fix the immigration problem without suspending citizenships from people who don't share your same race. Like, my goodness, Daniel Tyree, who runs the Dominion Society's dad's, like, Jamaican, and apparently he's, like, Albanian or something like that as well. Like, what the heck? Can I meet a white nationalist who doesn't have a Z in his last name? It's getting a bit much, people.
00:25:15.820 you can solve the immigration problem by just cracking down on welfarism and enforcing the
00:25:21.780 basic law. But groups like the Dominion Society end up throwing a jar of pasta sauce in the middle
00:25:26.960 of the dance floor and disrupting what could be a really good coherent movement to crack down on
00:25:32.500 the mass immigration problem without making it stupidly about race for no reason whatsoever.
00:25:38.220 Anyways, this was a rant, but it's all about this kind of big sort of vague move towards trying to put pressure on the Conservative Party into dropping the creators as, I guess, people they even talk to.
00:25:53.580 Because I don't get on the phone with Conservative Party HQ to hear my talking points.
00:25:58.580 I do whatever I want.
00:26:00.280 I'm pretty sure all the creators do absolutely whatever we want.
00:26:04.120 But there's this wedge of trying to use this patriotism trap to get either us to shut up or to get the Conservative Party to not talk to us, even though we do represent a large portion of the Canadian population.
00:26:17.500 Not because a large portion just blindly listens to us, because we share the same views and values as the people who watch us.
00:26:26.320 Anyways, so with all that being said, thank you guys for watching.
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