BONUS - The Sin Of Women
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Pastor Joel Webin answers questions submitted by you, the listeners. Today is the last day to register for our upcoming conference, Theonomy and Postmillennialism Conference, which is happening May 5th-7th, 2020.
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All right, welcome back to another live Q&A with yours truly, Pastor Joel Webin with Right Response Ministries.
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We do this every Monday at 12 p.m. Central Time.
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If it's a question that I think that I could address,
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Some of them are questions that you guys have asked
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but by God's grace, I'm going to get to them today. Now, before we get started, I've got to
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make an important announcement. This is October 31st, Reformation Day. It's Halloween. Nope,
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it's Reformation Day. So let's go ahead and throw up this announcement about our conference.
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It's not only Reformation Day, it's also register for our conference now day. Okay,
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so this is the Theonomy and Postmillennialism Conference. It's happening May 5th, 6th, and 7th.
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That's a Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, the year of our Lord, 2023.
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You guys are probably already aware that you've got me, Dr. James White, Dr. Joe Boot, Dr.
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Gary DeMar, but we've now added Dale Partridge.
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He's agreed to come and speak at our conference.
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So we have five renowned, well-known, gifted, highly educated individuals who are speaking.
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Well, we've got four, and then you've also got me.
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So we've got four highly educated, renowned speakers at this conference, plus myself.
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That's one of the ways to get yourself invited.
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By the way, if you're wondering, how can I get on the conference circuit?
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What you need to do is basically throw your own conference and then work your way into
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Today's the last day if you want to register at our original early bird discounted rate.
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We actually had somebody just write in and say, you know, does $100 include a spouse?
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And he said, well, are there any discounts at all?
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We are going to charge the same thing that John MacArthur charges for a Shepherds Conference,
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Look, $100 for an adult to come to a three-day conference with about a dozen sessions, two
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live panels with all the guys taking questions from the audience, Friday night and Saturday
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night, a catered barbecue dinner included in your registration fee, to do all of that
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for $100 with James White and Gary DeMar and Joe Boot and Dale Partridge, that is the discounted
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you're not going to find another conference like that. If you go to Fight Laugh Feast,
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which I went to, it was great. Gabriel Wrench, you know, one of the guys with CrossPolitik,
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Fight Laugh Feast, he's on our board with Right Response. Great guy, great conference,
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fantastic, but it's about $250. And so we are charging less than half. We are charging 40%
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of what Fight Laugh Feast charges. ReformCon, another awesome conference, and really affordable,
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cheaper than Fight Laugh Feast. And that's Jeff Durbin, James White. Those guys have been putting
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this conference on for a few years now. But still, even for them, I think I can't remember the exact
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number, but I think it's about 180 bucks or it might be even 230 or something like that. You
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know, if you register later, I think it's in the 200s. And so this is $100. But today is the last
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day starting tomorrow, November 1st, tomorrow, the rate is going to go up to 130. So if you want to
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save $30, you can register today. I strongly encourage you guys register today. Big kids,
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teenagers. That's 11 year olds through 17 year olds is $50. And then every child 10 and under
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is free. So if you got little kids, they're free. It's just you and your spouse. If you want a family
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discount, the family discount is it's $200 for you and your spouse and all your little kids to
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attend this conference. That is the family discount. And that is incredibly, incredibly
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cheap by comparison to other conferences of a similar comparable caliber. All right. So it's
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$200. If you want to bring the whole family, if you've got a few teenagers, then it may be
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250 or $300. If you have two teenagers that are going to come with you and your spouse,
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but you can do all that today, starting tomorrow. Again, adults, it's going to go from a hundred
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to $130. From $100 to $130. The big kids at $50, that'll stay the same. So 11-year-olds
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through 17-year-olds will still be $50 and children will still be free. But adults will
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go from $100 to $130. This conference is going to be phenomenal. I strongly encourage you guys
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to attend. If you're anywhere in the nation, remotely close, I encourage you to try to attend.
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I know that some of you guys are looking at attending from quite a distance.
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We've got people coming from New York, people coming from California.
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I know that travel costs money, especially costs money thanks to President Joe Biden
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But again, what we're trying to do to serve you to the best of our ability is I can't
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do anything about your plane flight and the cost of airfare.
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I can't do much about hotels, but what I can do is keep the conference cheap.
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And so I'm encouraging one last time, encouraging you to register at this very affordable price,
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$100 for an adult, register today at midnight central time.
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Celebrate Reformation Day by registering to come to the Post-Millennial Theonomy Conference
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this is what I want to do. So I've titled this video, The Sin of Women, The Sin of Women. So I
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want to start with this concept, this topic, and then we'll move on and take a few questions,
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all right? That's all I'm going to do for announcements in this video so that I have
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time to get to some of the questions. But this is what I want to read, all right? These are some
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quotes from various articles and different studies giving some statistics in regards to divorce,
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particularly divorce in America okay gazelle I don't even know how to say her name I am not
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I'm not up on culture and pop stars and stuff like that I'm up on politics I'm up on culture
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in terms of things that really matter but if you ask me about trying to think of one celebrity
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that I could name I don't know if you if you ask me about Jessica Alba I really I can't even
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picture her face. I don't even know who that is. I just remember the name, you know, or some kind
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of star. I don't really know. Okay. So I'm certain that I'm pronouncing this incorrectly, but here
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we go. Gazelle Bonnbunctin. It's probably German. It's Reformation Day. The least I could do is get
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a German name right, but I can't. I just can't. I'm sorry. So anyways, you'll know this other name,
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gazelle something something and tom brady are over okay so this is tom brady's wife they're done
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their marriage is over tmz sports has learned that the supermodel just filed for divorce from the nfl
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superstar that's the way it usually goes the woman in the vast majority of cases is usually the one
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who initiates divorce that's what we currently have going on in the united states of america
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when it comes to divorce, more often than not, it is the woman who initiates divorce, okay? Now,
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a study led by the American Sociological Association determined that nearly 70%
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of divorces are initiated by women. And the percentage of college-educated American women
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who initiate divorce is even higher, hovering around 90%. So if you have a college-educated
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woman who is married and that marriage ends in divorce, there's a nine out of ten chance that
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she's the one who initiated it, not her husband. Now, in attempting to explain the disproportionate
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amount of divorces that are initiated by women, many, in error, they're wrong, but many would
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respond by saying, well, that's because men are physically stronger and the women have to make
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use of their legal options for divorce because they are almost always the abused party.
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however this is not statistically true although that does happen in particular instances and it
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is an egregious sin when a man physically abuses his wife that is absolutely a heinous sin
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however this this may happen but this is not the statistical norm a 2006 study of physical and
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physiological aggression revealed instances of minor aggression initiated by men in 23.3%
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of cases. So minor aggression initiated by men in 23.3% of the cases, while there were instances
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of minor aggression initiated by women in 33.8% of the cases. That's almost a 50% increase.
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all right so there's about three women for every two men that initiate now we're talking about
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abuse in minor aggression cases of abuse there are three women who initiate they're the ones who
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who actually act out that minor aggression abuse they're the ones who acted out three for every
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men. Okay, let's keep reading. Women also led the men in cases of severe aggression. So with
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physical abuse in cases of severe aggression, women actually still led the men in these cases
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with male-initiated aggression, severe aggression at 8.4% of the cases, and female-initiated
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aggression in 11.5% of the cases. When we think of abuse, again, men can be abusive. Certainly men
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are sinners. But the reality is that statistically, if there's a marriage between a man and a woman
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and one of those two married individuals punches the other person in the face, it is more likely
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to be the wife than the husband. It's more likely to be the wife than it is the husband. In
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relationships where violence was non-mutual, almost 70% of the violence was perpetrated by
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the women. In other words, in almost 7 out of 10 cases of mutual violence, the batterer was a
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female. Now, women who participated in mutually violent behavior with their male partners were
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more likely to display a pattern of repeated violence than men. Men's violence was much more
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likely to be isolated. A one-time event where the man lost his temper, he forfeited self-control,
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and he sinned against God and his wife and his children egregiously. It is a serious sin, okay?
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I'm not minimizing physical abuse from men. However, it more often than not comes from women
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at the minor level and at the severe level. At any form of physical abuse, whether it be minor or
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severe, it is a three to two ratio of women with minor aggression in the realm of physical abuse,
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and it's still a higher statistic of women with severe, severe aggression and abuse, a higher
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statistic of women who initiate than men. In mutual cases, where there's abuse on both sides,
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it is more often seven out of ten times the woman who initiated it. And when abuse is repetitive,
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when it continues, it's more than just one isolated event, again, it is much more likely
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to be women. If a man is abusive, there is a likelihood that it's a one-off event. Wrong,
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immoral, wicked, heinous, yes, but very likely to be an isolated event. I shouldn't say very
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likely. Right there, I need to be more careful. When this happens and it is an isolated event,
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it is more likely that it is a man with an isolated event of physical abuse than a woman.
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women are more likely, I can say, more likely to repeat physical aggression and physical abuse
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against their husbands than men are against their wives, all right? So what have we learned? What
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we learned is that women are sinners. Women are sinners. Now, let me be clear. Do I, Pastor Joel
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Webber with Right Response Ministries, believe that women are inherently more sinful than men?
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Yes. No. No, I don't. I don't believe that women are more inherently sinful, that just by virtue of just biologically being a female, that you have a higher propensity or a greater degree of immorality than your male counterpart.
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No, I don't believe that women are inherently more sinful than men.
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This is what I believe. I believe that with any individual, whether it be an isolated individual
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person or whether it be a group of people, a group of individuals, that people, the nature of sin and
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the way that it works in the world, when sin goes unchecked, when sin goes without accountability,
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when sin goes on without recourse, without judgment, without the necessary and biblical
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consequences that God prescribes in his word. When any sin goes unchecked, it's going to grow.
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It's going to grow. It's going to occur again and again and again. So do I believe that women are
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inherently more sinful than men? No. But do I believe that at this juncture, at this particular
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cultural moment, especially in the West, and especially even more so in the United States of
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America, do I believe that women are sinning at a higher degree and a higher frequency than men
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in the realm of marriage? And we could probably argue other arenas as well, but in the realm of
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marriage, particularly as it pertains to abuse and divorce, yes. Yes, that's what the statistics bear.
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Women are sinning worse, in worse ways, and with a higher frequency than men. It is not because
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women are inherently more sinful than men, but it is because women for decades now in the West,
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and particularly the United States of America, their sin has gone on unchecked. Unchecked. So
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they're not naturally more sinful than men. But any sin that's not rebuked, that's not corrected,
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that doesn't receive the necessary consequences for that sin, any sin that is not ultimately
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addressed and held accountable is the sin that will continue and often the sin that will grow
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and sadly as it pertains to our culture in the west today for the last several decades but in
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recent history in the west in western societies women the sin of women has been by and large
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and you want to embody biblical traits of masculinity
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one of the best things that you can find is simply picking up the most pagan worldly magazine you can
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imagine and following every step and every trait that they esteem and that they encourage but just
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make sure that the magazine you're reading is a magazine written for women and not men if you find
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a worldly magazine for women it's going to say hey you know you should take initiative you should
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take responsibility you should exude more confidence you should do this you should do that
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you should be aggressive, be aggressive. Those are the kinds of things that are constantly being
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touted and encouraged and esteemed so long as these traits are found in women. And some of the
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worst material that you could read, sadly, would be material about biblical masculinity that comes
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from the evangelical church. Even the evangelical church, there is so much of the pagan worldly
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culture that is seeped into the American evangelical church, it is tragic. It is absolutely
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tragic. I mean, you'll find it even at the youngest ages in a children's ministry at the church,
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which our church doesn't have a children's ministry. We have church and children go to
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church with their moms and dads. But for those churches that do have children's ministries and
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they're directing little girls in a certain way and directing little boys in a certain way,
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Most of the direction that they provide when it comes to young boys is trying to encourage
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them to be gentle, trying to encourage them to be meek, right?
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Where you emphasize certain character traits of Jesus that are true, that are biblically
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Jesus is the lamb who was slain for the sins of the world but Jesus is also the lion of the tribe
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of Judah Jesus came John 3 17 he did not come to condemn the world but to save the world but Jesus
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is also going to come again and he who rules the nations with an iron scepter all knees will bow
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all tongues will confess and as Matthew Henry the late great Puritan once said every knee that will
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not bow will break and why will it break because jesus is going to take his iron scepter and break
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their kneecaps that's why that every person will bow to king jesus he is lowly and gentle he is
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meek and mild he is a lamb but he is also a lion he is fierce john chapter 2 he fashions a whip
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braided with cords to drive the money changers out of his father's house because zeal for his
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father's house consumes him. Jesus was a man. He was a man. He was a masculine man. And to say
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anything otherwise is to twist the person and work of Jesus and defy the clear scriptural
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teachings. That's just false. It's absolutely false. So our culture, and sadly, even our
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churches many of them encourage men to be docile from a very young age three-year-old four-year-old
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boys who are being boys are are emotionally and metaphorically castrated by the church
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so the church would object with literal castration we're trying to trans kids right
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trying to mutilate children with the whole transgender insanity the church would object
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to physical castration of young boys, but the church itself is complicit and engaged in spiritual
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and emotional castration of young boys, saying, oh, well, a boy, if he really wants to be a man,
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he wants to be godly, these are the traits. He needs to be docile. He needs to be quiet. He needs
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to be gentle. You know the irony, the irony with that? The Bible literally says when it comes to
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a woman, what is beautiful in the sight of God is not outward beauty that's imperishable, although
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a woman should seek to outwardly be beautiful, and a man outwardly should seek to be strong.
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That's not, just for the record, that's not shallow. There is a way of overstepping the
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bounds where you step into the realm of sinful vanity, but for women to wear dresses is a good
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thing. My wife wears lots of dresses. She dresses like a woman. My wife takes time to do her hair.
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My wife takes time to put on makeup. She doesn't do it every day. She doesn't do it for every
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occasion, but my wife is seeking to be feminine inside and outside. And men, likewise, in terms
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of strength, we want masculine spiritual strength. We want emotional resolve, but we also want
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physical strength. Why? Why should a man care about that? We've gone to such great lengths
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in the soft, narrow, complementarian, squishy, effeminate church world to say that, well,
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a man's physical strength doesn't say anything about biblical masculinity. Yes, it does.
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Yes, it does. There is some value. Paul doesn't say, you know, spiritual training is of immense
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value and physical training is of no value no he says physical training it's of less value than
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spiritual training but it's still of some value and and when we think of what it means to be a
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man two of the chief responsibilities of a man is to provide and protect provide and protect and in
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our world in our culture in our societies that are increasingly growing in hostility even physical
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literal hostility for a man to be in shape for a man to be have some kind of training some
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preparation owning a gun those kinds of things but then also physical training to be able to subdue
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and take down an intruder in the home if there's some kind of precarious scenario where he can't
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get to his gun for whatever reason all that falls in line with a man's responsibility and god-given
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duty to provide and protect so a man's not working out so that he can flex in his pictures on
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instagram that's vanity but for a man to be in shape and to have not just emotional and spiritual
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and intellectual strength but actually physical prowess and physical strength is a realm it is a
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portion of biblical god-honoring masculinity because it serves a man in his role to provide
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and protect to provide and protect and so my whole point in all this is again is to say women are not
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inherently more sinful than men, but what happens in a culture and a society and even in the
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American church when the sin of women goes unchecked for decades and when women are encouraged
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even by pastors to be more aggressive, more assertive, and little boys from the earliest
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age you can imagine are encouraged and even rebuked for any initiative, any sense of confidence,
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they're encouraged and commanded in many cases to be more gentle, more docile, there's a problem.
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Again, back to this first Peter chapter three, it says that women should have imperishable beauty
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of the heart. So, you know, the outward beauty matters and outward strength for a man matters.
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Physical beauty and physical strength for women and men respectively does matter. That is, there
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is a biblical category for that. It is of infinite value, the most value? No, but it is of some
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value. We're not Gnostics, right? The Apostle Paul doesn't say the physical is of no value. No, he
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says this is of more value, but the physical is still of some value. So there needs to be an
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attempt, I believe, with godly women who fear the Lord and love their husbands, some measure of
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attempt to look feminine in physical actual literal ways and men likewise to be strong as
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protectors to focus on that in physical actual literal ways but first peter 3 goes on to say
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that the the beauty that is imperishable that doesn't fade with age that never goes away that
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is most pleasing to the lord is the inward beauty not outward but inward beauty of the heart and
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then 1 Peter 3 specifies even further by saying that this is a quiet and gentle spirit. Stop
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right there. Think about that for a moment. A gentle and quiet spirit, which is precious
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in the sight of God. Precious in the sight of God when God finds it, a gentle and quiet spirit,
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but when God finds it in who is the question when he finds it in women not men that doesn't mean
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that that men are not commanded to be gentle in any regard Jesus was gentle men are commanded to
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be gentle but but when we're speaking of what should most clearly characterize the ethos of a
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person. It is in the case of women, not men, but in the case of women, that their character traits
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are culminated in climax in the two words of gentleness and a quiet spirit. Men should possess
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some measure of gentleness. And all people, both men and women, the scripture says, should be slow
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to speak and quick to listen. Well, the Proverbs say that when words are many, sin is not absent.
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right? So every man, as he seeks to be wise and not a fool, will have some measure of quietness
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about him, a quietness that proceeds from wisdom, not insecurity, not effeminacy. But only in the
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case of women, not men, but in the case of women, are these two character traits rising to the very
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top of the list, that a woman should be embodying, a woman should be defined, and the lion's share of
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who she is should be gentle and a quiet spirit. Gentle and a quiet spirit. Now, if you take that
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in mind, and then you just listen, just listen to the world and the ways that it disciples women,
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And sadly, again, listen to the American evangelical church and the advice given by pastors to women.
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How often are women told, you probably need to shut up a little bit.
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You're speaking about things that you do not know.
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The Bible says in 1 Corinthians chapter 14, it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.
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a woman must learn in quietness and full submission.
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I do not permit a woman to teach or have any authority over a man.
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It is not a woman can't teach with authority.
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No, she cannot teach or exercise authority over a man.
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These are the clear teachings of Scripture.
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1 Peter 3 goes on to say that women should follow the example of the great godly matriarch,
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Sarah, who called her husband, Abraham, her lord.
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lowercase l but lord meaning sir or sire she called abraham her lord and women godly women
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are commanded in first peter chapter three that they should follow her in her example have you
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ever stopped and thought for a moment i i think i may have said this recently on one of my videos
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but just in case i didn't i want to make sure i get it out there have you ever thought about the
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fact that jesus is king of kings and lord of lords right and and when we think about jesus
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ruling and reigning but not just an ethereal spiritual rule and reign in heaven exclusively
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but that he's ruling and reigning at the right hand of god the father almighty who is in heaven
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but his rule and reign his kingdom is in heaven and on earth right the last thing that jesus says
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before issuing the great commission in matthew chapter 28 all authority in heaven and on earth
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has been given to me therefore go go and disciple the nations baptizing them into the name of the
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father the son and the holy spirit and teach them my law proclaim gospel conversion baptism
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but also teach law the first use of the law that reveals the necessity for salvation because it
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reveals the holiness of god and the sinfulness of man but also the third use of the law that the law
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is a lamp unto my feet that we actually as christians are commanded to obey not to merit
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salvation but as a response of gratitude and obedience for the free salvation we have in
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Christ Jesus because obedience to God's law in this world actually matters it actually matters
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Jesus before giving this great commission including everything that I've just said he prefaces it by
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saying listen up guys and the reason why you should listen up is because I'm in charge and my
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in charge-ness my authority my kingliness is not just an ethereal spiritual kingly rule in heaven
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but i have all authority on earth as it is in heaven so when the bible says back to my original
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point when the bible says that jesus is the king of kings and lord of lords uh who are those other
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kings have you ever stopped and thought about that who are these other lords jesus is the capital k
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king of lowercase k kings and the capital l lord of lowercase l lords is jesus king of only
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exclusively heavenly kings and what would those heavenly kings be and is jesus only the lord of
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heavenly lords or when jesus says that he's king of kings and lord of lords does that include
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perhaps that jesus is king of earthly kings and earthly lords and if you ever stop and wonder just
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for a moment, if it does include earthly kings and lords, who are some of these earthly kings
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and lords? Well, I'll give you an idea. Some of these earthly lords are called husbands.
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All the way back to 1 Peter chapter 3, Sarah called her husband, Abraham, her lord. Lowercase
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L, but lord. He was lord of their marriage, lord of their home. He is the head of his wife,
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and the head of their children, the head of their household, in their household, in their home,
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Abraham was a Lord. Not the Lord, not capital L Lord, but a Lord. And so when the Bible says
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that Jesus is Lord of Lords, what the Bible is saying is this, that the head of every wife is
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her husband and the head of every man is Christ. That a man is a Lord of his home, but there is a
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lord above all lords a lord of lords who is christ jesus that christ is the ultimate capital l lord
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of every marriage and every home because he is lord of lords meaning that that man that human
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man in the home that husband that father he is also a lord he is a lesser lord underneath the
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ultimate lord who is christ but he is a lord nonetheless where is this preaching that's my
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question in the american church in the american evangelical church over the last 30 40 years
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probably more where is this preaching where are women encouraged not to speak in church because
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it's shameful where are women encouraged to cover their head in accordance with first corinthians
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chapter 11 as they worship on the lord's day with the gathering of the saints where are women
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encouraged to embody many godly characteristics, but especially to be defined in their life,
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in their character, by gentleness and a quiet spirit? Where are women reminded that they are
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not to have any authority over a man, not to exercise authority over a man or to teach
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a man, but that they should learn in quietness and full submission?
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How many sermons have you heard lately that say that women, in accordance with Genesis chapter 3,
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have a higher propensity of being deceived than men?
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I do believe that Genesis chapter 3, that what we see in the case of Eve,
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is that she and all her offspring, all her daughters have a higher propensity of being
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deceived than men do. And this is one of the reasons why what we find again and again in the
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New Testament when it comes to false prophets and false teachers is that the primary audience
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that they actually deceive and lead astray are weak-willed women. Women. They creep into
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women's households. They lead astray women. Now listen, here's the deal. Women are gifted,
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immensely gifted by God, endowed with certain giftings that men do not possess. We need each
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other. Absolutely. But when you put a creature designed by the creator with certain attributes
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and certain roles into a context that it's not suited for disaster is the result disaster is
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the result right take a fish right if you just want to illustrate you know this principle you
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want to you want to test it and see what may i don't know joel you sound a bit extreme uh then
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go ahead test it test the theory take a pet goldfish out of its bowl and throw it up in the
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air outside and see how it fares. We'll see how well it does, right? Birds do great up in the air
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because they're designed for it, right? Or reverse it. Take a bird and tie a brick around its leg
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and put it in a bowl of water and see how that bird does. It's going to drown. See, here's the
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deal. We don't just have complementing roles, men and women. We have complementing roles that stem
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from our complementing design see what complementarianism has sought to do over and
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against the biblical teaching of patriarchy what complementarianism has sought to do is ultimately
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indict god as being arbitrary did you know that that's what complementarianism does it's a
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subtle and really not so subtle but a subtle indictment an accusation hurled against god
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himself for being arbitrary right women are called to one particular role men are called to another
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particular role these two roles complement one another but at the end of the day these two roles
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a woman could really do anything that a man does and a man could do anything that a woman does
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but but that's just not what god has commanded which ultimately is insinuating that god has
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called men and women to different things to complement one another but god's callings of
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roles and responsibilities for men and women respectively is arbitrary. It's not actually
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stemming from anything in God's created order, and the Bible would reject that. It's not just,
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hey, birds are called to fly and fish are called to swim because God said so. Well, yeah, but doesn't
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it also have something to do with the fact that birds have feathers and wings and a hollow bone
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structure and fish have gills and scales and fins? Like, are we certain that the way that
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these two creatures are designed doesn't have anything to do with their roles of flying and
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swimming? Of course it does. And so too with men and women. Men and women were made differently by
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God. So the old adage of a woman saying to a man, anything you could do, I could do better. I could
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do anything better than you, but I'm not called to, said complementarianism. No. What biblical
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patriarchy would say, on the other hand, is anything you can do, I can't do. Not just because
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I'm not called to it, not just because it's not permissible in scripture. No, I literally can't do
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it. So it's not just that a woman is not called to preach, right? Let me get specific with an
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example here it's not just that a woman cannot is not called to preach a woman cannot preach
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she cannot preach and you won't hear people saying this very often but i'm saying it now
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a woman is not called to preach because she can't preach she has not been created and designed
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specifically by god for that role she's not able to do it it's not just she's not permitted to do
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she is not able to do it because preaching is a fatherly task and preaching is a warrior task
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preaching is the role of a father and preaching is the role of a soldier more than a soldier i
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would argue it's the role of of someone higher up above soldiers a lieutenant a captain a general
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preaching is when a man gives fatherly instruction to his spiritual sons and when he charges
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soldiers militia in the army to attack he rallies them to battle a good picture of preaching is
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William Wallace riding down the line on his horse with his face painted blue charging all the men
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rattling their swords and spears as he goes by saying it's time it's time for war preaching
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it admonishes, it corrects, it consoles, it comforts, but it does all of this not with a
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womanly nature, but a fatherly nature. Preaching is not motherly, it's fatherly. And preaching is
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not docile, it's aggressive at times. There are certain portions of the sermon where I am,
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as a father, instructing the people of God, the children of God, and at other times,
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as a general, I am calling the people of God to war. I am charging them to run into the battle,
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to run into the fray. This is not merely something that a woman should not do. It is something that
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a woman cannot do. And the only reason it has appeared as though women can preach like Beth
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Moore is because one, we have gutted out what it means to be a man. Two, we've gutted out what it
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means to be a woman, and three, we've gutted out what it means to preach. If preaching, according
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to the American Evangelical Church, is nothing more than a soft, fern-pacing 20-minute TED talk,
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then sure, Beth Moore can do it. Part of the reason people have opted for egalitarianism
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and soft, squishy complementarianism that thinks that certain women could preach is because we've
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gutted preaching? Not just have we gutted biblical gender, but we've actually gutted the art and duty
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of preaching. We've said that preaching is soft. Preaching is mild. Preaching is gentle. Preaching
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is this. Preaching is that. It's all these just genderless things, these squishy, androgynous
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religious things. And so, of course, why couldn't a woman do that? But when you read sermon
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manuscripts from Charles Spurgeon and the Puritans and Jonathan Edwards, and you think about Beth
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Moore delivering, you know, the sermon, Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God. I mean, think about
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that. It's literally laughable. It's hard. It's hard to hold back the chuckle, right? I mean,
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think about it. Just picture that in your mind for a second. Beth Moore preaching Sinners in
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the hands of an angry god she can't it's not just she won't because she's compromised and that sermon
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actually is biblically faithful and addresses the holiness of god and the sin of man it's not just
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that she's won't that she's unwilling she's unable she could not deliver that sermon not the way that
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god intends a sermon like that to be delivered because she's not a man she's not a man so all
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that being said, one of the things that we immensely need in our nation today, in our culture
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today, and it's got to start with the church today, is we need biblical preaching, biblical
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instruction, biblical doctrine on biblical masculinity, on patriarchy, biblical patriarchy.
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And we need good biblical teaching on biblical womanhood as well. And we need to raise the bar
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for the preaching, the right preaching of God's word
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It's a manly thing to administer the sacraments
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on the Lord's day of the Lord's supper and baptism.
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We need to raise the bar with the ordinary means of grace
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and what it does when it gathers on the Lord's day
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All these things, we need a proper understanding
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if we are to actually embark on this valiant endeavor
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is that we're going to actually have to correct women
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but for a while, we've only been correcting men.
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A man actually, in many cases, will do something right,
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So men are being actually rebuked for right actions,
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as just one fruit. There are many. This is just simply one fruit of this kind of ministry,
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if you would call it that. And one of the fruits is that divorce continues to increase and it
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continues to increase statistically that the woman is the one who initiates divorce.
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Food for thought. All that being said, all I really spoke about was the home of the church.
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if we were to get into the civil realm for a moment um i mean the state caesar civil magistrate
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is described in the scripture at at certain moments certain times in in vivid descriptive
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language as being like a bear having sharp claws right the civil magistrate has been given a sword
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women should not bear the sword they should not bear the sword the civil magistrate is a bear
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you know what you want to do with a bear if you have any say over the bear and and its actions
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a bear is a great thing to sick on your enemies sick and bears right a bear is a great thing to
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to to sick on your enemies right right when you're under attack when you need a defense if you've got
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bears at your disposal all right release the bears what you don't do with bears is uh let them care
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for your children at home. You don't want bears nurturing children and nursing infants. You want
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bears mauling bad guys, right? So, okay, well, the state is like bears. Well, women are nurturing.
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Women are nurturing. So what happens when you put a nurturing woman in a bear-like position
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of society. Like Kentonji Brown Jackson would be a great example. Supreme Court judge. What's her
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perspective? How does she look at justice? How does she fulfill that role? She is, despite whether
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she wants to be or not, right? You cannot help but be what God has designed you to be. She naturally
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is going to live with at least some measure of consistency within God's created order. She is a
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woman. She may not be able to tell you what a woman is, but she is one. And here she is as a
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woman sitting on the highest court in the land. And what's her record, right? What's her tendency
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when it comes to perpetrators, when it comes to villains, when it comes to particularly child,
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people with child pornography, child molesters? How does she respond? How does she react? She
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thinks, man, that poor guy. I just, I just want to show him mercy. I just, if only he had a better
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mom. If only I could be your mom, right? When Putin was invading Ukraine, you had women writing
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poems, if only I were your mom, right? Because they're women. They're women. That's how they
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respond, right? So Putin is invading the country and they're thinking, gosh, I feel like that guy
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just needed a good mom. Or some guy has a bunch of child porno on his computer and Ketaji Brown
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Jackson is thinking, what's the lowest penalty that we can give him? How much compassion can we
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provide? That's the kind of characteristics that you want caring for a toddler in your living room.
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That's not the kind of characteristics that you want to deal with criminals. With criminals,
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which is word and sacrament, ministry of mercy.
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Did you know we wouldn't have one Democrat president
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i've said it before i'm saying it again this is the episode i'd be remiss if i didn't include it
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dealing with the sin of women so i'm throwing it in there i'll say it again
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not one democrat president in the last 50 years if women couldn't vote
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ironically women's suffrage has caused more suffering for women than just about anything
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else. And for the record, women's suffrage, a lot of the underlying intention for it was to split
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the household vote, to turn women against their husbands, to try to create an independency from
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their husbands, splitting marriages, splitting the household vote, turning women against their
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husbands. This is what feminism has done for decades and decades and decades. It has become
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more blatant, more obvious, more apparent, the sinful nature of this whole feminism thing.
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But the seeds were there from the very beginning. That's not just third wave feminism that's sinful.
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No, the sinful seeds of feminism were there in the first wave, more subtle. They were there in
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the second wave certainly there in the third wave and now the fourth wave and this is what happens
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when you rebel against god and his designated created order the fourth wave of feminism if we
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were to define it as anything is um is that you go from um a woman can do some things that a man
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can do a woman can do a lot of things that a man can do a woman is can do all the things that a man
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can do and then it's um there's no such thing as a woman a woman is a man and a man is a woman here
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we are with fourth wave feminism and and what's the fruit of that um the fruit of that is a bunch
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of hulking dudes stealing uh medals from from teenage girls at track meets and men dressed up
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as women winning a woman of the year award and and some uh man who is literally just mocking
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women on tiktok being invited to the white house to talk to the president of the united states
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that's the ultimate fruit of feminism now feminists will of course object at this though
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no no no no that's not what we wanted no it's not what you wanted but it's what you get
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it's what you get it's what rebellion against god gets it's what rebellion against
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god's designated order gets here's the deal god is a father he identifies as a father he reveals
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himself as a father. Not a father and a mother, but a father. And we live in the father's world.
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And to live in the father's world in a way that is conducive to human flourishing and blessing
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and prosperity is to live in accordance with the father's rules. We have a father above all.
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He has built a house. We live in the father's house. The father has rules for his house and
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the father blesses, the blessings of the father roll down in effect all, all of those who inhabit
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his house through other fathers. We have fathers in the state. We have fathers in the church,
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namely elders, right? Civil fathers, spiritual, ecclesiastical fathers, and familial fathers in
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the home. And it is through human fathers at each of these three sovereign spheres, the home, the
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church and the state whether it be the the husband is the head of the wife and the father is the head
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of the children or elders as as the as the leaders in christ church or whether it be um whether it
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be governors and mayors and presidents as the civil fathers in the sphere of the state at every level
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you have the father who's above it all the father heavenly father who created his fatherly world
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and works through and blesses through human fathers.
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it's again, back to the analogy of a bird and a fish.
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It's like, well, this is the world that you're living in, right?
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you see birds swimming over or flying over your pond.
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You know, you're looking up through the surface
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and pick up, you know, as much speed as you possibly can.
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and land on the shore, flop around for a while and die.
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the shackles of that pond that water that was holding you back what was it holding you back
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or was that just the conducive proper context designed by god in which you would thrive
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because of the way that you've been made because you are not autonomously free and you don't you
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don't get to be whatever you want to be the the myth of free will right there are certain things
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you just can't you're you're a creature no creature has autonomous free will i cannot will
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myself to be nine feet tall. I cannot will myself to fly. There are plenty of things that are
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outside the bounds of my realm of choices because I'm a creature. I'm a creature. And that works at
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every realm, at every level. I am not just a creature, I'm a human being creature. And not
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just a human being creature, but I am a human male creature. And all these things say something
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about who i am the way i've designed been designed by god to be and and which things i can choose
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that will prosper and which other things that are outside my bounds outside my design that i might
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try to choose but ultimately will end in disaster women are not inherently more sinful than men
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but at this current juncture because the culture and sadly even the american evangelical church
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for things that they have done that have not been sin,
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part of this conversation of Christian nationalism,
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on biblical masculinity and biblical womanhood.
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We're going to have to understand that in every realm,
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what it means in the home, what it means in the church,
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We're going to have to understand these things.
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And there's going to have to be the church repenting,
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is because you got a bunch of male pastors
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cowardly and shivering like little chihuahua dogs in an old lady's lap, just quivering there on
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Sunday morning when they're in the pulpit, afraid, afraid to correct half of the membership of their
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church. I mean, think about that for a second. Do you think that a church is going to be healthy
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and thrive if a pastor is fiercely committed to never correcting half of the members?
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i'll let you guess which half it is it's the women we know it we see it and the beauty is
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that by god's grace uh there's a remnant rising there are godly women my wife is a godly woman
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there are dozens of godly women in my church and many of you i mean even just statistically i think
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it's like 75% of the people who listen to this show who subscribe to our channel on YouTube are
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men. But honestly, I'm a little bit encouraged that at least 25% of them are women. Because if
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25% of the people who listen to this show are women, and they're listening to a show that
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includes episodes like this one, and they're actually able to make it to the end of the
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episode, and they don't write me, you know, a death threat in an email, you know, within the
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next 30 minutes that's encouraging that's hopeful like it's not just that i have my wife and i have
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my sister and i have my mom and then i have other women in our church but but there are thousands of
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women some of you that i've never even met who are listening to this and it's not just a bunch
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of men saying yeah get them joel i know right now there are women listening to my voice watching
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this video who fear god who fear god and are resonating with what i say and you're saying
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preach it, pastor. And I pray that God would endow my pastor here in my home church with
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courage to preach it too. Bless you, woman of God. Bless you for that heart attitude, for that
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heart posture, that response. Bless you. I know you're out there and I think there are more and
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more every day. So that's how we got where we are. It gives you kind of a little bit of the steps of
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things that we need to do to improve. But I wanted to end it on that hopeful note and saying that
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I think already things are better than they were three years ago. I really do. I think three years
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ago, I would have gotten way, I'll get pushback. Trust me, don't worry. The Lord keeps me humble
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with the YouTube comments. So I'll get plenty of pushback. But I think that if I had done a video
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like this three years ago, it would have gotten 10 times the pushback, 10 times the trolls that
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this will get because reformation is underway and God is gracious and merciful and changing hearts.
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Oh, hi. I didn't see you there. Thanks for sticking around. I've got an important announcement
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already had lined up. That's Dr. James White, Dr. Joseph Boot, Dr. Gary DeMar, non-Doctor
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Pastor Joel Webin. But we also have a bonus speaker, and that is Dale Partridge from Real
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It's fantastic. Dale Partridge is going to be joining our team. We're going to have live panels
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