00:01:41.600And to be honest, we're still rooting for him, right?
00:01:44.5801 Corinthians 13 says, love hopes all things.
00:01:47.020We hope that Donald Trump stops betraying his base.
00:01:50.240we hope that he ends up being half the man that we actually voted for but when he gets things
00:01:56.600wrong we're going to call it as we see it when he gets things right we're going to give credence
00:02:02.280and appreciation as well calling balls and strikes that's what we've done from the beginning all the
00:02:07.860way back in 2024 during the campaign and what we want to remind the listener of today are some of
00:02:13.420the things that we have said along the way and then in this episode we're going to take time
00:02:18.660to point out some of our suspicions given the recent news right are we so back 200,000 visas
00:02:24.940they're revoked right they're revoked right we're going to share our suspicions at the same time we
00:02:31.920also are going to give our encouragements there are some hopeful signs but none of them are yet
00:02:37.860definitive so we will cheer and we will chimp that's what we're going to be getting in today
00:02:43.440But first, let's rewind the tape and show you a montage of some of the things that we have said and have been right to say all along.
00:02:52.100So my hope is that, you know, with a Trump presidency and especially not just Trump himself, but with a Trump administration and guys like Vance and not just Vance.
00:03:00.700But I mean, you're talking thousands of people, all the different people that would not be able to touch the levers of power with a 500 foot pole if Kamala got the election.
00:03:10.700all of a sudden um they they get a voice they get uh they get a seat they get uh to influence
00:03:17.760so we recognize uh that there are problems with trump of course there are um and just for the
00:03:22.940record i you know like i i've seen you know some some guys on you know the more abolitionist side
00:03:27.880of the aisle who we love uh but uh there was one in particular who said um you know you guys are
00:03:32.960calling the christian nationalists are calling donald trump the christian prince i don't know
00:03:36.340anybody who said that. So we don't think that Donald is the Christian prince, but we will take
00:03:42.180him over Kamala every day of the week and twice on Sunday. So we're grateful for a Donald Trump
00:03:47.640scenario. And Trump's not just better for our churches and our families and our nation. He's
00:03:52.200better for the world. The world right now is rooting for Donald Trump to win. There will be
00:04:00.320more peace with donald trump than there would be without him finally christians can vote for trump
00:04:07.980and send a message to the gop by simply being relentlessly outspoken about their disapproval
00:04:14.780with the compromise of republicans withholding your vote is not the only avenue for sending
00:04:20.700a message and then lastly christians can do all of these things simultaneously none of them are
00:04:28.520mutually exclusive no it's not just that you changed maga changed trump is not the same man
00:04:34.920it's not just that you became more radical no trump became more liberal trump is is saying
00:04:41.640out loud i mean he just said this um in his speech and then he's doubled down on it afterwards with
00:04:45.900true social and certain statements that he's made just in the last 48 hours uh that for 2027 as we
00:04:51.740head into the next year uh that he's ramping up the entire u.s economy to be a war machine
00:04:56.720for, you know, for fighting Israel's war and, you know, absolutely decimating Iran.
00:05:02.300And in order to do it and get the money, he's going to be cutting the benefits of your everyday
00:05:06.640Americans. So health care, well, forget that. Cheap gas, forget that. Cheap groceries, forget
00:05:13.320that. We're going to streamline the entire American economy towards one thing. And what is0.91
00:05:19.700that one thing? What are we going to benefit with? The one thing is to wipe one of the premier
00:05:24.500players in the Middle East off of the map so that Israel can expand its borders, achieve
00:05:30.520hegemony, and as Bibby just came out in the last 72 hours and said verbatim out of his
00:05:54.200So what you'll see in that montage of clips is we gave the date so you can actually see the chronological timeline, the evolution of our view of Trump and how he's doing along the way back in 2024 and maybe early 25.
00:06:07.200But especially 2024, we said things that I actually still agree with, that Trump would be better than Kamala, that that's kind of a no brainer, that there are certain positives about Trump.
00:06:19.000But even then, all the way back in 2024, we were giving the nuance.
00:22:23.020And so we are requesting a work visa for an immigrant from this country with a skill like a doctor, a skill like a lawyer to come into our country to do this job.0.73
00:22:32.120And just on that program specifically, because you might think, oh, well, the visa is designed for people who are like making $400,000 a year and are the best experts in their field.
00:35:26.320You predicted – so we have to recognize that we are up against 60 years of an immigration system that is corrupt, that has all sorts of precedent, everything.0.98
00:35:35.740So it is difficult to do these things.0.80
00:35:37.640A judiciary pact with Obama-appointed judges.
00:36:40.920The best thing you could say about the Trump administration.
00:36:43.060So briefly, another headline this week was 200000 visas revoked.
00:36:46.920Well, first of all, it is a leak. It is a proposed rule. This is something else that, again, is not in place. And here's the deal. Well, I revoked your visa status. I didn't just say it. I declared it. Oh, and that removes the 200,000 visas. It's specifically B1 and B2 visas that you revoked. Oh, that removes them? Oh, no, it actually doesn't. Even ICE. ICE arrests, objectively, are record high. Did you hear me say the word arrests, though? Did I say deportation, flights out of here?
00:37:14.620we've arrested a lot of these people so we've made arrests we've issued proposed rules we've
00:37:21.120proposed fees we've done all of that and here is the good thing those have a chilling effect on1.00
00:37:26.400new immigration looking to come here you go to reddit you will see a bunch of indians saying
00:37:30.240don't even bother america is continuing to clap down clamp down on immigration it's confusing
00:37:35.620it's going to take you 180 years i think is the latest estimate some of the backlog so that is
00:37:40.560good insofar as it's rhetoric that says, don't come here. We don't want you. It's going to cost
00:37:46.040a lot of money. It's going to be a hard process. You're going to come to Frisco, Texas, where
00:37:49.960realtors are telling people, hey, remove any signs in your home that you're an Indian who lived here
00:37:54.600because people do not want to buy a home that smells like curry and had a God that you offered
00:37:59.100incense to in an upstairs bedroom. So you're going to come in, you're going to face discrimination
00:38:02.680in the housing market. You're going to face fees that could be leveled on you. You could have to
00:38:06.120go back for your green card appointment all the way back in India. The Trump administration has
00:38:09.460done some of that those are good but we need so much more that's what we're saying these are good1.00
00:38:16.480good steps good starts good proposed rules but we have a mandate to re-migrate millions of0.97
00:38:22.840individuals that have come here that have brought their gods that have brought their pagan worship
00:38:26.920that are foreign to our customs foreign to our habits foreign to the american spirit and it is0.91
00:38:32.000our duty to re-migrate them to send them home to do it justly to do it graciously to do a christian0.92
00:38:37.780but to say you don't belong here you have a place that you need to go to and so a fee on new people0.82
00:38:43.180coming in that's great but my brother in christ we are five percent of the way there and some of us
00:38:48.540will play that role some will be inside the administration working on all this paperwork
00:38:52.740working on all these documents we need both yin and yang push and pull let's for a second let's
00:38:59.060just talk you know the purpose of the system is what it does right like one of the criticisms
00:39:03.040that's constantly levied by MAGA, by the plan trusters on guys like us, who would be more
00:39:08.960comfortable in a Christian nationalist space or an America First space that would levy harsh
00:39:14.980criticisms against Trump, rooting for him all the while, but criticizing him where we see fit.
00:39:20.320One of the criticisms from the MAGA plan trusters towards our side of the aisle is that you guys,
00:39:27.280the purpose of the system is what it does. And the purpose of your system, what it actually
00:39:32.780does is it's going to turn out people to vote for Democrats, or at best, which we've never advocated
00:39:40.720for that, but at minimum, it's going to hinder people, Republicans, from turning out to vote for
00:39:48.440the GOP. That's their criticism. Here's ours, because I don't know if we've ever said this,
00:39:54.300but just to make it really simple, because some people might be listening to this and say, well,
00:39:57.520sure, yeah, I guess in the technical sense, you guys are right. 200 visas have not actually been
00:40:02.620revoked, you know, and you guys are right. The $103,000 fine for H1 pieces has not actually been0.91
00:40:09.040put in place. And you're right. There's no renewal system with this. And you're right. 5.9 Indians
00:40:15.600will come for each one that we, all, all those things are technically true, but guys, you're,
00:40:20.240you know, I mean, faith, hope, and love, right? First Corinthians 13, 13, you know, the greatest
00:40:26.340of these is love, but these three things remain faith, hope, and love. And you just, there's too
00:40:31.320much despair in your rhetoric. You know, I feel like you guys have black pills. You're not as0.98
00:40:36.000hopeful as you used to be. And, you know, I just, you might be right, but where is the hope?
00:40:42.800Where's the hopefulness? And this is why we do what we do. Just so you know, the plan trusters
00:40:49.600would say America first, the purpose of the system is what it does. What it does is it mitigates
00:40:55.320turnout for GOP elections, which lends towards Democrats, you know, winning. Well, the purpose
00:41:01.500of the plan trusters, the purpose of their system is what it does, right? To be fair, equal weights
00:41:06.580and measures, the purpose of their system, what that does is that they are constantly placating
00:41:12.220conservatives and Christians in America. I cannot tell you how many people have reached out to me
00:41:20.240And they actually think, right, because when Captive Dreamer or Cat Turd or, you know, fill in the blank, whoever it is, is saying 200 visas, 200,000 visas revoked, 103,000, they actually think that these things have happened.
00:41:33.420So my concern with the plan trusters is not that they're hopeful, right?
00:42:15.120True hope is not just seeing something when it's already come to fruition and acknowledging a hopeful reality that's already in place.
00:42:25.320No, hope is I'm walking through the valley of the shadow of death, and I'm hoping that there will—I acknowledge and admit how bad things really are, and I'm hoping for change.
00:43:01.300Because if the purpose of a system is what it does, all of the guys within the orbit of the plan trusters who are following their social media accounts, getting their cues from these usual suspects, MAGA plan trusters, they are not coming away saying, you know what, we've got some good irons in the fire.
00:43:21.860You know what, Trump is making some good attempts.
00:43:23.960You know what, the administration has a good start.
00:44:53.760plan trusters and MAGA are not hopeful they're lying they're lying the purpose of the system
00:45:00.480is what it does even if they don't say it verbatim they say things intentionally in such a way that
00:45:06.260it gives off the implication to all their listeners that represent thousands if not even
00:45:12.560millions of conservative GOP voting Americans that actually the effect of it is it placates
00:45:18.740them to where they think that the things that we need to be pushing Trump to get done that these
00:45:23.560are already done and therefore we don't actually need to be chimping and pushing trump that is
00:45:28.700actually a problem so let's just let's just be fair equal weights and measures on both sides of
00:45:33.140the aisle the plan trusters and maga their critique of us america first they would say you guys um are
00:45:39.240our panicans you're too negative and what it's going to do is it's going to cause uh gop voters
00:45:46.320to lose momentum lose incentive to turn out and vote and it's going to get democrats elected
00:45:51.380I would have some pushback, but there is some truth to that. But on the flip side, what they're doing is deceiving their base that attempts are actually accomplishments. And what it does is, yes, it gets the GOP base to be excited and to turn out.
00:46:14.500but it gets them to turn out and elect people who are not being pushed by the GOP base upon being
00:46:21.960elected to actually get anything done. That is a problem. We're being honest. I wish they would
00:46:29.780be honest. Yeah, that's a great point. It's funny too because I'm like, I thought this is what we
00:46:34.260wanted from the independent media. Wasn't that everything wrong with traditional media? Wasn't
00:46:38.380it just political sycophants sitting in front of a camera and saying exactly what you would expect
00:46:43.120them to say right yeah that's such a good point the independent media and all these social media
00:46:47.620accounts and all these podcasts and all these you know x accounts and you know cultural commentary
00:46:52.100political pundancy all these things the whole point was uh that fox news is milquetoast and
00:46:59.820corrupt and dishonest but i'm i'm watching these maggot accounts and i'm watching fox news yeah
00:47:07.780They are. It's Animal Farm. They're the pigs that are now walking on hind legs in the farmhouse exactly like the humans. They are Fox News.0.96
00:47:18.020And ask yourself if this change in rhetoric. I mean, there was a point in I believe it was in March that the admin was directing House Republicans to stop messaging on mass deportations.
00:47:28.120They also, Deputy Chief of Staff James Blair, instructed members to focus only on deportations of violent criminals.
00:47:35.100Senior Republican aides said messaging would be about deporting violent criminals and not mass deportations.
00:47:40.620Earlier this year, that was the rhetoric coming out.
00:47:43.660And in the couple months that followed, not just us, people chimped out.