The NXR Podcast - August 10, 2026


CN Weekly - The Day The Old Gods Died


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00:00:00.000 If you had been at sea in the first century, somewhere near Turkey, running a grain ship from Egypt toward Italy, you might have heard your name called across the water.
00:00:11.040 Not a shout from another vessel, a voice, from the empty shore of the island of Paxi, calling for the Egyptian pilot by name, Thammus.
00:00:20.880 Three times the call went out, and when he finally answered, the voice gave him a command,
00:00:26.840 When you reach Pellodes, announce that the great god Pan is dead.
00:00:32.940 He didn't want to do it.
00:00:34.520 He decided that if the wind picked up, he'd sail past and say nothing.
00:00:38.780 But the wind did not pick up.
00:00:40.840 The sea stayed flat as glass.
00:00:43.340 So Thammus stood at the stern, turned his face toward the land,
00:00:47.480 and called out the words exactly as he had heard them,
00:00:50.900 The great god Pan is dead.
00:00:53.260 and before he even finished, the shore erupted. Not one voice, but many. A great sound of groaning
00:01:01.200 and lamentation and astonishment rising from a coastline where no crowd should have been.
00:01:07.560 This isn't just a legend that somebody scrawled down centuries later. We have it from Plutarch,
00:01:12.760 a Greek historian, a philosopher, and a serving priest of Apollo who says that the story reached
00:01:18.660 Rome and that the emperor Tiberius himself summoned Thammus to the palace to ask what it meant.
00:01:25.640 That's Tiberius, the emperor who was on the throne at the exact stretch of years when a certain
00:01:31.320 Galilean preacher was nailed to a Roman cross outside of Jerusalem. Now, Pan is the only god 0.93
00:01:37.880 of the Greek world whose death is recorded as an event with a date. It's actually recorded in a
00:01:44.140 historical source, and it landed in the reign of the one emperor whose name every Christian already
00:01:50.220 knows from the trial narratives. Now hold that thought for a moment. Travel east, because in
00:01:57.860 Jerusalem, in roughly the same window, the priests were watching a piece of wool. See, every year on
00:02:05.200 the Day of Atonement, a strip of crimson dyed wool was tied to the goat that carried the sins of the
00:02:11.480 out into the wilderness. This was the scapegoat of Leviticus. And there was a tradition, an old 0.71
00:02:19.780 and cherished one, that when Israel's sins were forgiven, the scarlet wool would turn white. It 0.71
00:02:27.000 was tied straight to the promise in Isaiah, though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white
00:02:33.860 as snow. Year after year, the people watched for it, and when it whitened, they would rejoice.
00:02:40.300 The Talmud, Israel's own record, not a Christian one, says that during the last 40 years before the temple was destroyed, it stopped. 0.97
00:02:50.180 The wool stayed red, and it wasn't the only thing that failed.
00:02:55.300 The same passage lists four signs that broke altogether.
00:03:00.120 The sacred lot for the Lord stopped falling in the high priest's right hand.
00:03:04.860 The westernmost lamp of the menorah would no longer stay lit and the great temple doors began swinging open on their own in the middle of the night and the scarlet thread never turned white ever again.
00:03:20.600 The temple fell in the year 70. 0.54
00:03:23.360 Count back the 40 years the rabbis give you.
00:03:26.560 You land around the year 8030. 0.94
00:03:29.100 The precise window when, a few miles from the temple, the Christians say the final atonement was already made, 0.75
00:03:37.820 and the shadow play of goats and wool was quietly and permanently switched off. 0.91
00:03:45.400 Now go north and west to Greece, to the most famous voice in the ancient world.
00:03:51.300 For a thousand years, kings and generals in whole cities had made the pilgrimage to Delphi
00:03:57.740 to consult the oracle, the priestess of Apollo, the Pythia, seated over her chasm, speaking for
00:04:05.280 the god himself. No war was launched, no colony founded without her sanction, and in the first
00:04:12.900 century she began to fall silent. We don't have to guess at this or construct it from hostile
00:04:20.080 sources. No, we have it from the same Plutarch, the priest of Apollo, who wrote an entire treatise
00:04:26.780 trying to explain it on the obsolescence of oracles. In his own lifetime, 8046 to 8120,
00:04:36.040 Plutarch admits the great oracles of the world had gone silent. Shrines that had spoken for 1.00
00:04:42.540 centuries stood abandoned and falling into ruin, and the philosophers gathered at Delphi 0.95
00:04:49.080 could only sit and debate why the power had drained out of the world. The gods, so it seems,
00:04:57.200 had stopped answering. And then the fourth witness, the strangest one of all, the one that shouldn't
00:05:04.640 exist. Go all the way east, past the edge of the world the Greeks and the Romans knew, to the court
00:05:10.760 of Han China. The book of later Han, the official dynastic history, records under the reign of
00:05:17.320 Emperor Wong Wu around the year 31 AD a solar eclipse and in response to it an extraordinary
00:05:25.880 imperial edict. The emperor proclaims that Yin and Yang have wrongly reversed, that the sun
00:05:33.920 and moon had been darkened, and then he said this, the sins of all the people are now upon
00:05:41.820 one man, and pardon is proclaimed to all under heaven. One man bearing the sins of all,
00:05:50.980 universal pardon declared across the empire, written by court scribes who had never heard
00:05:58.020 of Judea, and in a language and a world entirely sealed off from the gospel, and yet reaching in 0.59
00:06:05.520 the same handful of years for words that a Christian cannot read without a chill,
00:06:11.160 Matthew's gospel says that when Christ hung on the cross, darkness covered the land. 0.72
00:06:17.480 So here's what we have.
00:06:19.200 A god dies at sea, and the coast wails under Tiberias.
00:06:23.860 A scarlet cord stops turning white in Jerusalem, and the doors of the temple open now by themselves.
00:06:32.360 The oracle of the greatest sanctuary in the world falls silent, and her own priest cannot explain it.
00:06:39.840 and on the far side of the earth an emperor stares up at the darkened sun and writes about one man
00:06:47.280 carrying the sins for all four traditions four witnesses who were not comparing notes who mostly
00:06:55.760 did not know the others even existed several of whom had every reason to say nothing at all
00:07:02.580 one narrow generation, and at the center of all of it, the Christian claim, a single Roman cross
00:07:10.760 where the old order of gods and oracles and sacrifices met the thing that made all of it
00:07:17.480 obsolete. Tune in now as we talk about the day that the old gods died.
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00:08:23.500 false gods in the scripture and even in history are not fake gods they're dead gods false gods
00:08:46.600 are not fake gods they're dead gods look at the scripture this is colossians chapter 2 starting
00:08:52.540 in verse 8. It says this, see to it, the Apostle Paul writing under the inspiration of the Spirit,
00:08:58.060 see to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit according to human
00:09:04.140 tradition, according to not just human tradition, but the elemental spirits of the world and not
00:09:12.120 according to Christ. So this is the Apostle Paul. This is now post Jesus in his life, death,
00:09:19.160 resurrection and ascension. So a few years after, maybe a couple decades or so after the resurrection
00:09:26.680 and ascension of Jesus Christ, Paul is saying something that's important for his hearers
00:09:32.580 to take to heart. He's saying there will be people who will continue to try to take you captive by
00:09:39.780 philosophy and empty deceit and human tradition, but also according to the elemental spirits
00:09:45.520 of the world and not according to Christ. There will be people, there will be priests and priesties,
00:09:52.500 there will be all these prophets that speak to these false gods making claims of their power
00:10:00.300 and trying to take you captive underneath their power. However, do not be led astray. One,
00:10:07.840 because these false gods are in fact false, but two, because these false gods are now dead gods.
00:10:15.100 Go on. Verse nine, it says, for in him, that is Christ, the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily
00:10:21.960 and you have been filled in him who is the head of all rule and authority, not just the truth,
00:10:29.160 but the power, the authority in him. Also, you were circumcised with a circumcision made without
00:10:36.400 hands. That is spiritual circumcision of the heart made without hands by putting off the body 0.86
00:10:44.120 of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ having been buried with him in baptism in which you were
00:10:50.620 also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God who raised Jesus from the dead
00:10:59.020 and you I'm getting to a really important verse here and you who were dead in your trespasses
00:11:05.560 and the uncircumcision of your flesh God now made alive together with him having forgiven us all
00:11:12.700 our trespasses. How did he do this? By canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its
00:11:20.340 legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross. He disarmed the rulers and authorities
00:11:29.500 and put them to open shame by triumphing over them in him, him being Christ. So God, the one
00:11:39.840 true God has defeated. He has actually disarmed, rendered them impotent, taken the teeth out of
00:11:49.240 all the lions, all the rulers and authorities of this world. That's not just speaking to kings
00:11:54.860 and princes. It's not just speaking to human rulers, but God has actually disarmed all the
00:12:02.620 spiritual rulers and authorities of this world. And not only has he disarmed them, has he destroyed
00:12:09.660 them, silenced them, but he's actually held them to open shame, held them in contempt by triumphing
00:12:18.020 over them in him, that is the beloved Christ. By Jesus' death and most notably his resurrection,
00:12:27.560 something happened in the spiritual realm. All of these false gods that were never fake gods,
00:12:33.740 but simply false gods, are now silenced gods. They are dead gods. Now, in a technical sense, 0.97
00:12:43.320 many of these false gods are still alive because they are spiritual beings. They will eventually,
00:12:50.440 according to scripture, be thrown in the lake of fire. They actually will never truly, in the
00:12:55.100 technical sense, die because they will be tormented by God justly forever. But they were disarmed,
00:13:02.880 is what the scripture says, and they were silenced as you saw in the cold open. Something actually
00:13:09.800 happened in the world. So when you read Greek mythology, we're going to be going over some of
00:13:15.920 that today. When you look at the Greco-Roman world and their pantheon of gods, a lot of times with
00:13:22.600 our Western modern minds, even as Christians, we scoff and we think, maybe we don't say it out loud, 0.99
00:13:29.260 but subconsciously we assume that these people from antiquity were archaic, primitive, and stupid, 0.99
00:13:37.440 that they had these make-believe gods. There are other places where the Apostle Paul talks about 0.98
00:13:42.860 an idol being no god at all, right? From the same log, piece of wood, a man would carve one piece
00:13:51.760 to be a basin or a bowl that he eats out of, or even does something a little bit grosser with the
00:13:58.240 purpose of that bull and the other half he carves into an idol and bows down and worships it so the
00:14:03.060 scripture does give precedent to the concept of gods being false and in a sense in which that
00:14:11.400 falsity is even that they're that they're fake that they're not a god at all but that's primarily 0.96
00:14:18.160 as it pertains to the idol right the idol an asherah pole or the high places to the balls
00:14:25.080 or some idol for Zeus or Poseidon. Well, that's not a god. That's simply an image,
00:14:32.800 an image of a god. But the question still remains, what that image conveys, what it represents,
00:14:40.240 is that entity real? Yes, it's not the god of all gods. It's not the one true god. But was it,
00:14:48.800 at least at some point, a real God nonetheless? And the answer is yes, right? What happened in
00:14:57.220 biblical cosmology is that God, who is ruler and authority over all the created cosmos,
00:15:03.980 he gives to us, to mankind, Adam, namely, as a viceroy appointed by God to steward the earth,
00:15:12.940 he gives him authority, stewardship. Adam, by his sin, transgresses and forfeits that authority
00:15:20.740 to Satan. Woe to you, O earth, for the devil has been cast down to you. So Satan enters the garden.
00:15:28.640 Adam, by his transgression, he forfeits his stewardship and authority over the created
00:15:34.680 cosmos to Satan. Satan then divvies it out to his minions and all those who chose to side with him
00:15:42.080 in this great angelic battle in the heavens against the archangel Michael fighting for the
00:15:48.220 sake of the Lord and Satan and a third of the angels that were swept from the sky that chose
00:15:53.920 to follow him. Satan and all of those demonic entities, fallen angels, watchers, there are
00:16:00.620 various different terms, they came down to earth and you see within the scriptural narrative
00:16:07.160 that they were appointed certain regions by Satan to rule over because God gave authority to Adam,
00:16:15.800 Adam forfeited to Satan, Satan divvies up this authority, princes and principalities. The
00:16:22.900 princes, spiritual princes, these are demonic entities that followed Satan on his team. The
00:16:28.660 principalities are regions like provinces. The idea that there would be a fallen angel that
00:16:35.480 really exist it's real and it has some kind of supernatural power far more than any human being
00:16:43.220 and that he was a follower of satan and that he was appointed over a certain province a certain
00:16:49.100 region let's say for instance the seas and he had power to stir up the seas to cause great storms
00:16:59.260 and waves and that some people knew him as old neptune others called him poseidon but as christians
00:17:09.600 we know that it's not just make-believe but this is a fallen angel serving under satan
00:17:16.240 appointed by satan to that region having authority over a principality the waters
00:17:22.820 and that this angel in some cases fallen angel perhaps even saw the daughters of men that they 0.51
00:17:30.180 were lovely and actually created hybrid sons think of even the lore of hercules right he's a demigod
00:17:37.660 part god part man or he's a nephilim right the bible actually the bible doesn't say that these
00:17:45.560 things are ridiculous the bible actually says that these things were real false gods are not
00:17:51.240 fake gods. False gods are simply now, because of the finished work of Christ, disarmed, silenced, 0.81
00:18:00.100 or for all intents and purposes, dead gods. And that's what's so substantial, because not only
00:18:07.220 do we have the Bible's testimony, which is first and foremost, but we have all these different
00:18:13.760 witnesses from different corners of the earth that never crossed paths with one another, that
00:18:20.300 were not Christian, that had never had a single page from the Bible, all within the same window,
00:18:26.560 same time frame, saying the same thing, that their local gods over their principalities in
00:18:33.480 their region, whether it's in Asia or whether it's over here in Greece or whether it's over there,
00:18:38.220 that all of their gods at the same time, right around the time that Jesus died and was resurrected,
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00:19:34.880 the link in the description below. Wes, you've got some more stories. Yeah, as you may notice,
00:19:40.080 This is a little bit of a different episode than we've done before,
00:19:42.500 but what we're not going to do is merely keep this in the realm of abstract.
00:19:45.540 Paul actually talks about people that are obsessed with Jewish fables and Jewish myths,
00:19:49.280 and he says, don't do that.
00:19:50.540 Don't be obsessed with all these ideas that have no practical outworking.
00:19:54.740 So what we're going to do is when we land the plane, we're actually going to say,
00:19:57.480 here's what Christ did.
00:19:58.620 Here's this biblical cosmology that has been turned upside down with his death,
00:20:02.640 with his resurrection, and his ascension, and here's how it matters today.
00:20:06.180 I mean, the name of this show is Christian Nationalism Weekly.
00:20:09.120 What does it mean that Christ has been raised from the dead, defeated the old gods, and now has application for us?
00:20:14.760 And what I'm going to do first here is actually go through and read excerpts from these stories.
00:20:18.580 I want you to hear them in their own words, because what we're doing is we're actually editorializing a little bit.
00:20:23.560 Plutarch himself does not connect at all the death of God, the silence of the oracles.
00:20:28.220 He doesn't connect them to Christianity.
00:20:29.780 It's actually Eusebius, it's Athanasius, and on the Incarnation.
00:20:33.000 it's later Christian authors that come in and they say, yeah, actually, there's probably a reason
00:20:38.020 Pan died during the reign of the emperor Tiberius. Yeah, there's actually a reason all these oracles
00:20:43.600 go silent in the old world. Same thing with the Talmud. The Jews themselves never attribute
00:20:48.420 the silence of the temple, the silence of the sacrifices. They never attribute it, of course,
00:20:54.140 to Christianity. So what we're going in is we're saying, here's these separate signals,
00:20:58.260 separate pieces of evidence. I'm going to read them for you so you can hear them for yourself.
00:21:01.300 And as a Christian, I'm interpreting it. 0.84
00:21:03.580 The Jews are doing the same thing with the Talmud. 0.87
00:21:05.200 So they recognize what happened. 0.89
00:21:06.880 Hmm, all of our sacrifices stopped working.
00:21:08.700 Oh, the menorah stopped staying lit.
00:21:10.640 Oh, the doors were continually flung open as if anticipating an invasion.
00:21:14.240 Well, we think it was because of this.
00:21:16.340 We're coming in as Christians and saying, no, here's the reason we think that this happened.
00:21:21.240 First story I'm going to go with.
00:21:22.220 This is the story of Pan.
00:21:23.540 Again, reported to us from Plutarch.
00:21:25.580 This is probably written.
00:21:26.820 This is Peter Pan.
00:21:28.260 Peter Pan, yes.
00:21:29.140 Captain Hook, Peter Pan.
00:21:30.880 It's a Disney story, actually.
00:21:32.160 So you've seen this one.
00:21:33.460 And what's happening, it's funny.
00:21:34.620 Pan was what, a Greek god?
00:21:35.560 Pan means all.
00:21:36.640 So you think of pansexual, allsexual. 0.56
00:21:39.520 So it's a little bit of a planned word.
00:21:41.180 So pan kind of means this god of the sea, the god of everything going on.
00:21:44.580 And what's actually happening, funny enough to your point about gods,
00:21:47.660 is there's an argument between two guys whether demons exist at all.
00:21:51.180 Some are saying yes, some are saying no.
00:21:53.140 And so as an example, one of the men who's very well-traveled,
00:21:56.100 he says, I used to know this sailor.
00:21:58.200 And the sailor's name is Epithyrsies.
00:21:59.640 and he goes on and says he was a very reliable man so this is a man who's not a drunk he's not
00:22:03.960 someone that's always known to tell tall tales he's a reliable man he's the son of a rhetorician
00:22:08.680 from ancient greece so he's a very reliable and he tells this story it's been almost repeated
00:22:13.860 word for word in the cold open what i want to read for you specifically is how he anchors it
00:22:18.540 to history so there's this report the great pan is dead he that is the sailor had no sooner said
00:22:24.680 this they heard a dreadful noise not only of one but of several who to their thinking groaned and
00:22:28.820 lamented with a kind of astonishment and there being many persons in the ship so this is not
00:22:33.360 just one person on his canoe out at sea believe me guys believe me bro trust me bro kind of
00:22:39.400 astonishment he's on the ship was soon spread over rome which made tiberius emperor at the time of
00:22:45.620 jesus life his ministry his death and resurrection which made tiberius the emperor send for thammus
00:22:51.420 and he seemed to give such heed to what he told him that he earnestly inquired who this pant was
00:22:55.780 and the learned men about him gave him their judgments that it was the son of Mercury by
00:23:00.220 Penelope. You got your Greek mythology there. There were some in the company who declared that
00:23:03.980 they had heard old Amalus say as much. So there's even other people in the company as they're
00:23:08.660 arguing whether demons are real or not. Well, here's an example of a bad demon that died and
00:23:13.420 I received this story from a reliable sailor and other people in the midst. Yeah, actually I heard
00:23:18.580 that story too. And note the parts of the story because there's Greek mythology. I think of the
00:23:22.960 Gospel of Thomas, for example, a Gnostic derivation of the Gospels. It talks about like 60-foot angels.
00:23:28.700 Is Emperor Tiberius a 60-foot angel, a mythical creature? No, this is a real emperor that lived
00:23:34.220 in a real time, that we have real historical record of, and a story that's told him with
00:23:38.720 multiple people affirming, yeah, actually I heard the same story too. This ship was full of people.
00:23:43.080 We heard this echo. We heard this announcement. The emperor himself, what in the world? The god
00:23:49.080 Pan is dead. Send me someone who is there, who is a witness to it, that I can hear from them.
00:23:54.840 The second story from Plutarch, this is another fascinating one. This isn't actually even
00:23:59.000 a story that's related to him. There's a number of men sitting around, and they're debating about
00:24:04.260 why it is that it seems all the power in the other regions of the world, specifically the oracles,
00:24:09.540 have gone dry. And he asks the one man, he says, it's Clembrotus, don't name your kids that one,
00:24:15.240 Clembrotus, why is that?
00:24:16.600 And it says this,
00:24:17.700 Unto which, why are these oracles going quiet?
00:24:21.600 Unto which he makes no answer.
00:24:23.020 But looking to the ground, Demetrius took up the discourse, saying,
00:24:25.880 You need not busy yourself in inquiries after the oracles in those parts,
00:24:29.460 that is, parts far away.
00:24:30.480 He's relating this to Plutarch.
00:24:32.460 Seeing we find the oracles in these parts here,
00:24:35.520 to fail or to be totally silenced except two or three,
00:24:38.280 so that it would be more to the purpose to search in the cause of the silence.
00:24:41.860 But we are more concerned in Boeotia, which, although formerly famous throughout all the world for oracles, 0.98
00:24:47.500 is now like a fountain dried up, so that at present we find them dumb.
00:24:51.360 For at this day there is no place in all Boeotia, unless in the town of Labeda,
00:24:54.740 where one can draw out any divination, all other parts being silent and forsaken.
00:25:00.100 And some of our point with this is to say, the old world was this magical world
00:25:04.300 where we think divination, oracles, gods, they really existed.
00:25:09.020 and they were wicked and they were rebellious and they ruled tyrannically. You look at the
00:25:13.500 brutal violence of all of these kingdoms that surrounded ancient Israel. They were brutal,
00:25:19.580 wicked, oppressive places. And that makes sense that they were reigned over, influenced by
00:25:25.940 demonic activity. And then they're all reporting in the first century, all of this is drying up.
00:25:31.920 Our divination has failed. Our oracles have gone silent. At sea, we're hearing the announcement
00:25:36.820 of the death of the gods again i'm adding the christian slant the christian interpretation
00:25:41.620 but i'm not the only one eusebius early on in his work on the preparation of the evangelism
00:25:46.760 of the gospel he says yeah pan all he makes that homophobic kind of pun there pan meaning all pan
00:25:52.740 is dead all the other gods have died athanasius on the incarnation does the same thing because
00:25:58.120 christ has been raised the old powers have been put to shame yeah well said yeah i i even think
00:26:05.060 about like obviously this what we're talking about is what's documented in the first century but
00:26:09.320 even in um you know acts that comes to mind in terms of uh paul at ephesus right and you think
00:26:15.060 about the god artemis who's the patron god of ephesus and and literally what you have is him
00:26:21.260 coming in and actively removing the magnificence is what scripture says of artemis you see people
00:26:27.280 burning their magic books so it was it wasn't necessarily like um it's not necessarily something
00:26:32.960 that is happening after post-scripture and first century documentation, but it's happening in
00:26:37.100 scripture as well. I also think it puts teeth to what we would read in Colossians 1, for example.
00:26:42.600 It's like all things were made by Christ, both visible and invisible, both. And then it says
00:26:48.460 thrones, rulers, dominions. So what the implication being there are invisible dominions and visible
00:26:54.440 dominions. And so what are these invisible dominions? This is the powers of these old,
00:26:58.940 you know demonic gods that these people are worshiping and i'll also add just something i
00:27:04.320 think is interesting is it it's all based on sacrificial systems whether the old testament
00:27:09.340 old covenant israel sacrificial system but also we think about the greek pantheon of gods all
00:27:15.440 the sacrificial system and what is god what does christ come and represent the elimination of the
00:27:20.200 sacrificial economy both for israel but also for these other people as well you're right because
00:27:25.440 they were all, I mean, even the word propitiation that's used only two or three times in the New
00:27:30.220 Testament by the Apostle Paul, he, well, actually, I think one of them's 1 John. But the word
00:27:37.600 propitiation means a satiating sacrifice put forward to still the wrath of a God. And so that
00:27:46.500 was actually a pagan concept and pagan term that was used and redeemed by the authors of scripture
00:27:57.220 to speak about Jesus as the final lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. That in every
00:28:03.820 major world religion, you had a sacrificial system, not just in Judaism, old covenant Judaism, 0.84
00:28:11.420 but you had a sacrificial system where the gods were in you know pagan countries they were fickle 0.58
00:28:19.920 they were shallow they were vain sometimes the gods would be at war with one another they would
00:28:25.140 you know have some kind of intramural skirmish and battle and their followers the people were always
00:28:31.240 the ones who who paid the price there's not rain this year there's not a harvest this year and so
00:28:37.340 there was always some kind of sacrifice to be made whether it was animal sacrifices or even
00:28:42.220 sadly human sacrifices there's a maybe we can garner the favor of the gods they're angry about
00:28:48.800 something they're either angry with us or they're angry with each other but the gods are fickle
00:28:53.560 and their wrath is kindled quickly in a moment and maybe we can satiate their wrath with a sacrifice
00:29:01.000 a blood sacrifice. And all this is the way that the world operated. And as it kind of applies to
00:29:07.740 where we're at today with Christian Nationalism Weekly and the kind of content that we put out
00:29:11.980 here at NXR, because it is actually relevant. This is why, here's just one application,
00:29:17.640 this is why white nationalism that allows for historic European paganism is truly a LARP
00:29:29.180 in every sense of the word. What I mean is that paganism was always immoral. It was always false 0.67
00:29:37.860 worship, worship of false gods. It was always harmful for societies. It was never good. But
00:29:44.480 in defense of our ancestors, at least they were worshiping gods that actually still had power.
00:29:53.000 You know, I mean, if we're looking BC, before the cross and the finished work of Jesus Christ,
00:29:57.840 at least the Greeks and the Romans and others, certain Nordic Vikings, you know, they had
00:30:03.980 ceremonies and they had traditions. They had certain pagan religions that were honoring and
00:30:09.500 giving credence to fallen, what we would see is from a biblical cosmology, fallen angels.
00:30:17.380 But at least the fallen angels at that time still had stewardship over the earth. They actually had
00:30:23.160 power. But remember that the big idea that we want you to see is this. God, the one true God,
00:30:29.340 the triune God, has absolute power over all that he has made. He gives stewardship. He appoints as
00:30:36.360 a viceroy with stewarding. He delegates authority to mankind through Adam. Adam, by his sin, 0.76
00:30:46.600 forfeits that authority to Satan. Satan then distributes and divvies out authority to different
00:30:52.340 princes spiritual entities his followers over principalities different regions but then christ
00:31:00.420 as the second adam and this is why this matters by one man's disobedience sin into the world and
00:31:06.320 through sin death this is romans 5 so too by one man's obedience the second adam the greater adam
00:31:14.400 by his perfect obedience to god his active obedience in his life not only avoiding sin
00:31:20.360 He certainly did that, but also fulfilling all righteousness.
00:31:24.240 But then his passive obedience, submitting himself even unto death, even death on a cross, 0.51
00:31:30.620 by Jesus doing this and being that final sacrifice, unlike all the pagan deities and pagan traditions,
00:31:37.620 these gods demanded sacrifice, and it always came at the cost of the people.
00:31:42.060 But in the case of the Christian gospel, God does demand sacrifice, just like all the false gods. 0.51
00:31:49.120 God, the true God, actually does demand death.
00:31:53.400 He demands blood because the wages of sin is death.
00:31:57.600 And because God is just, he cannot compromise his just standards.
00:32:01.920 He cannot simply sweep transgressions under the rug.
00:32:05.420 He can't turn a blind eye to sin.
00:32:07.560 God would forfeit his justice by being nice.
00:32:10.680 People all the time, why can't God just forgive?
00:32:13.200 Why does he have to have sacrifice?
00:32:14.960 Why does there have to be atonement?
00:32:16.880 because God is not just forgiveness. God is justice. And if God somehow removed justice,
00:32:24.860 which he can't do, got divine simplicity. God is not a man. He's not divisible by parts.
00:32:31.200 But if God were to somehow remove justice from his repertoire of attributes, as it were,
00:32:38.380 he would no longer be God. And he certainly wouldn't be any God worth serving. He would
00:32:43.660 not be a just God. So God in his justice, in order for justice and mercy to both be simultaneously
00:32:51.500 upheld, how can God be merciful towards sinners and also uphold his justice? Well, someone has
00:32:57.960 to die in their place. With all these pagan traditions, the propitiation, the satiating 0.94
00:33:03.320 sacrifice put forward to absolve the wrath of the gods, well, God, the Christian God, actually puts
00:33:10.460 that propitiation forward himself, not from among the people, but his own son. So God does demand 0.54
00:33:18.360 a sacrifice because he's just, but God provides the ram caught in the thicket. He provides the
00:33:24.700 sacrifice. He provides the lamb, the lamb of God, not the lamb of men, but the lamb of God who takes
00:33:30.980 away the sins of the world and at that point God's wrath his just fair wrath towards sin
00:33:40.720 is satisfied and upon Jesus in his resurrection then all these other gods who had dominion
00:33:50.300 well now all of a sudden Jesus actually takes back the keys he actually that even the creeds
00:33:58.280 the historic Christian creeds, teach of a descent to Hades, okay? Now, it's not a literal descent
00:34:04.920 to hell in the sense of like a lake of fire, the final fire of destruction, but Jesus, while his
00:34:12.680 body being in Sheol, right, the tomb, the earth, the realm of the dead, he's in the spirit, right,
00:34:19.720 for three days in the tomb, Friday night till Sunday morning, right, so it's not a literal 72
00:34:25.420 hours, but during this period, over the course of Saturday, Jesus in the Spirit, where was he?
00:34:34.040 Well, the Bible actually teaches that he actually descended in the Spirit to Hades,
00:34:41.860 the spiritual realm of the dead, and proclaimed not a second offer, a second opportunity at
00:34:48.540 salvation, but he proclaimed his victory to principalities and souls that were held there
00:34:57.540 and then ransomed saints, all those who were in paradise, albeit, but still captive in Abraham's
00:35:04.560 bosom. The souls of the redeemed, Old Testament saints, ransomed them because now the way to
00:35:11.080 heaven had been made complete. And so he ransoms all those redeemed souls waiting in Abraham's
00:35:18.520 bosom to heaven and takes them up and then proclaims to both demonic powers and reprobate
00:35:27.520 souls in the realm of the dead, Hades, him doing this in the spirit while his body is in the tomb,
00:35:33.300 proclaims victory and takes back the keys of dominion. And so that dominion that is given
00:35:40.220 by God to man, forfeited by man to Satan, Christ, the second Adam, the God-man, rips it back from
00:35:48.240 satan and so the christian mission is now for us post the the incarnation of christ in his life
00:35:55.920 death and resurrection and ascension for us for these past 2000 years and moving forward is that
00:36:02.200 we now are christians little christ ambassadors of christ christ has taken back dominion and he
00:36:10.740 now instead of satan divvying it up to all his minions christ is divvying that dominion up to
00:36:16.780 the church. His hands and feet, his body, Christ is the head, the church is his body here on earth.
00:36:24.460 And so the people of God, Christians, are to exercise dominion over the nations in the same
00:36:32.320 way that Satan, when he had dominion, the prince of this air, he divvied it up to certain demonic
00:36:40.080 entities and set them up over regions to rule. Think of the book of Daniel, where when the angel
00:36:47.100 finally comes to Daniel with a message from God, he says, I'm sorry I was delayed. I was held up
00:36:52.340 by the prince of Persia. He's not talking about a human prince. He's talking about in the spirit 0.66
00:36:58.500 realm, there was a spiritual demonic prince entity power that was over that principality
00:37:07.480 of Persia, that region, and he had to do spiritual battle with him to get through to Daniel. Well,
00:37:15.160 all of those demonic powers over regions of the earth, they have all been disarmed. That doesn't
00:37:21.440 mean that demons don't exist, right? You need to understand this. It doesn't mean that demons don't
00:37:26.020 exist, but it means that the demonic entities, they only ever had one lethal weapon, right?
00:37:34.080 Satan can still push and prod and even, to a certain degree, torment and oppress.
00:37:42.040 But the only lethal weapon that Satan and those on his team ever possessed was your unforgiven sin.
00:37:50.900 And that sin was nailed to the cross, per Colossians chapter 2.
00:37:55.460 Your debt was canceled.
00:37:57.500 In other words, Satan, who still prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking who he may devour,
00:38:02.420 his teeth have been knocked out for those who are in Christ, for Christians. He no longer has
00:38:08.860 a lethal weapon, a lethal mechanism for destroying you. Struck down, but not destroyed.
00:38:16.160 He can't because the only thing he truly had against you that could really actually take you
00:38:23.860 out was not just a false accusation, but the true accusation that he could make against you
00:38:31.740 is that you sinned against the God of heaven.
00:38:35.040 And because that God is just,
00:38:37.420 and because the wages of sin is death,
00:38:40.420 not only will Satan destroy you,
00:38:42.800 God is obligated morally to destroy you.
00:38:46.800 But now that Jesus has taken your sin,
00:38:49.860 he who knew no sin became a curse,
00:38:52.180 became sin on our behalf
00:38:53.460 so that we might inherit the righteousness of God
00:38:55.480 because Jesus took your sin
00:38:57.140 and therefore took the wages for your sin,
00:38:59.480 which was death on a cross under the white hot wrath of God, because that's done.
00:39:04.140 All these demonic entities that, yes, they do still exist.
00:39:07.960 Some of them have been locked away in gloomy dungeons.
00:39:10.200 Jude speaks of this.
00:39:11.700 Others are still permitted for a time to prowl around like a roaring lion.
00:39:16.260 But for Christians, those who are in Christ, who have faith in Jesus, 0.98
00:39:19.740 they are lions that are toothless. 0.99
00:39:22.800 The lethal weapon has been stripped.
00:39:25.320 They've been disarmed.
00:39:26.820 and that viceroy stewardship, dominion, has been granted, taken by Christ and divvied up from Christ
00:39:36.260 to us. And it's not just dominion. This is the final point, why it's applicable.
00:39:42.140 It's not just dominion over your private, sweet, precious little heart.
00:39:49.940 Christian dominion, that we are not just able, because of the finished work of Christ, to
00:39:55.040 exercise, but that we are morally obligated, commanded by God to exercise, is not just dominion
00:40:00.400 over our private lives, over our private character, or over our marriage, or our parenting in our
00:40:06.500 homes. No, it is public. It is a public dominion. We are called by Jesus, the last thing he said
00:40:14.100 before he ascended to heaven to his disciples and to us. He says, all authority in heaven and on
00:40:20.240 earth Christ is not just reigning in the 17th dimension he has real tangible authority now
00:40:26.540 not just one day eventually now presently he has authority in heaven all authority and all
00:40:33.260 authority on earth and he says in that authority I deputize all of you Christians to be my ambassadors
00:40:43.280 to push for the crown rights of King Jesus on earth not just in the 17th dimension 0.50
00:40:50.140 not just in a spiritual plane, but on earth.
00:40:52.860 Therefore, go and make disciples of nations.
00:40:58.700 Not just making disciples of individuals out of nations.
00:41:04.060 No, go forward and disciple the nations,
00:41:07.780 baptizing nations into the name of the triune God,
00:41:11.720 the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
00:41:13.940 And he finishes by saying,
00:41:15.380 and teach them to obey all my commands.
00:41:19.280 so not just evangelism and preaching the gospel to individuals within certain nations but actually
00:41:25.660 baptizing and discipling the nations as nations preaching the gospel that they might be born again
00:41:32.220 but also teaching them the law of god and how to apply it not just in their private lives but in
00:41:38.900 the public sphere, right? Politics, legislation, law, culture. This is our mandate, and we can do
00:41:49.140 this, and the Christian gospel, the Christian church has been successful in doing this for the
00:41:55.420 last 2,000 years of church history in large part for a host of reasons, because at Pentecost,
00:42:01.780 the Spirit was sent to empower us as witnesses of Christ. That's one reason. But another reason
00:42:08.120 is because all of the demonic entities of the world were disarmed and held in open shame.
00:42:16.800 And so there were demonic spiritual entities ruling in tangible earthly ways over regions,
00:42:24.480 nations, over Babylon. You would have a human leader behind him, a demonic entity pulling the
00:42:30.740 strings. Persia, human leader behind him, demonic entity pulling the strings, right? The ocean, 0.90
00:42:37.520 the sea. You'd have weather, the atmospheric changes, and all these things, natural explanations
00:42:42.760 that are true. But also, you would have some kind of principality, some spiritual entity
00:42:48.500 pulling the strings. Have you ever wondered, why is there always these storms when Jesus is trying
00:42:53.600 to get from one side of the lake to the other? Even the disciples recognize you're not smarter
00:42:58.220 than these people from 2,000 years ago. You're not. They're not dumb. The disciples recognize
00:43:04.180 this is a great storm. This is not just natural. The world is not just stuff. It's not just
00:43:11.080 materialism. There is some kind of spiritual entity trying to capsize our boat. And Jesus
00:43:18.340 speaks to the wind and waves and silences them. They immediately are stilled. He exercises his
00:43:24.720 authority not only over nature, but very likely, this is a plausible, not necessary, but plausible
00:43:31.400 inference from the text, not only exercising his authority over nature, but whatever demonic
00:43:37.360 spiritual entity was behind that storm, trying to capsize the boat. So these demonic powers
00:43:45.020 have been disarmed and silenced. And one of the reasons why Christendom, for 1,500 years,
00:43:52.340 from Constantine all the way up until recent days, has been so tremendously successful
00:43:58.140 is because the Spirit, the Holy Spirit poured out
00:44:03.440 and the finished work of Christ,
00:44:06.600 the message of the gospel, the work of an evangelist,
00:44:09.240 but also because the demonic powers of the earth
00:44:12.820 have all been tied up.
00:44:15.160 They've been tied up.
00:44:16.500 And we need to get back on track.
00:44:18.920 The West has been falling for quite a while.
00:44:23.160 We have been apostatizing against the Lord Jesus Christ.
00:44:26.760 we have compromised greatly. We have thought that with all of our great innovation that came
00:44:32.240 about because of our Christian foundation, I might add, but because of our great learning 1.00
00:44:37.680 and our great innovations and discoveries, we've done away with the religious aspect.
00:44:44.000 We've thought, you know what, we're beyond Christianity and we don't really need Christianity
00:44:48.540 anymore. And how far the mighty have fallen. We need to repent. We need to get back on track,
00:44:54.700 but that doesn't just mean precious, sweet little Christian hearts
00:44:58.880 in our own personal, individual, private lives.
00:45:02.960 It means everything needs to be Christianized. 0.99
00:45:06.880 Every government, every nation, every culture, all the arts, 0.99
00:45:12.800 it all needs to be Christianized. 1.00
00:45:15.260 Everything needs to be baptized. 0.99
00:45:17.540 We need to be baptizing nations.
00:45:20.400 We need to baptize the world.
00:45:23.120 It needs to be redeemed and claimed, a flag put down in the ground that says this belongs to Jesus because it does, because it does.
00:45:34.640 So if you're a Christian and you're not involved in politics or you think that politics is somehow a distraction
00:45:41.280 or you think Christian nationalism is some scary boogeyman or that it's an oxymoron, it doesn't even make sense, 1.00
00:45:50.360 then you're stupid, and you need to repent, and you need to come to biblical theology and 1.00
00:45:57.800 recognize that this is the goal of Christianity. Yes, we care about individual salvations. We want 1.00
00:46:03.840 to see souls redeemed for eternity, and that happens at an individual level, grace through
00:46:11.280 faith in Jesus. At the same time, though, the temporal age matters. That which is eternal
00:46:19.700 matters more. But that doesn't mean that this life and this world doesn't matter at all. We
00:46:26.160 actually do want to see Christian governments. We want to see Christian nationalism. And we're
00:46:31.880 starting here at home because we are American. So we're starting here. We have this in our past.
00:46:38.560 We want to see this in our future for America. Christian nationalism pushed forward. And
00:46:44.740 although there may be some individuals who might agree with us on certain points
00:46:49.720 and that's fine as far as it goes in the political and cultural realm
00:46:54.960 we still do need to tighten up our ranks we need a broad coalition as much as we can
00:47:01.140 but not at the cost of purity and we have to recognize that
00:47:05.580 this will not be a judeo-christian alliance this will not be a muslim christian alliance and it
00:47:12.980 we'll also not be a Thor-Christian alliance.
00:47:16.400 We're not doing that.
00:47:18.200 Paganism was always wrong.
00:47:20.600 They were false gods.
00:47:22.120 But now you're worshiping false gods
00:47:24.800 that have their hands tied behind their back.
00:47:28.020 Poseidon and Zeus?
00:47:30.160 There was a time that I might have been sympathetic.
00:47:33.680 If it was 500 BC,
00:47:36.720 and I had a time machine,
00:47:38.200 I'm going back and I'm seeing you pay tribute
00:47:40.300 you know, to these Greek gods and mythology, I would want to tell you, well, Jesus is the true
00:47:46.840 God. He's coming in 500 years. You need to get your life straight. You shouldn't be worshiping
00:47:51.040 these gods. You should be worshiping the triune God, the God of heaven and earth. But, but if you 0.99
00:47:56.600 say, well, but they're real and they're powerful. And, and when we make them happy, you know, our
00:48:01.060 crops grow and blah, blah. I would not laugh at you. I would say, I get it. But in the year of
00:48:08.180 our lord 2026 it's not because of modernity it's not because of the science tm no it's because of
00:48:14.180 the finished work of christ 2 000 years after the finished work of christ and him disarming 0.53
00:48:19.920 all these principalities for you to to think well you know what as long as it's white right as long
00:48:28.920 as it's just european tradition right that that's that's the great unifier is our people our people
00:48:35.780 is a great unifier, but to place that over Christianity. So you can be Christian, but you
00:48:41.860 could also be pagan, just as long as you're European. That's mixing iron with clay, and it 0.94
00:48:50.060 will break. It will not have the fortitude. What fellowship does light have with darkness? What
00:48:55.880 fellowship does Christ have with Beelzebul, or does Christ have with Thor? The answer is none. 0.50
00:49:02.260 none it will not work so christian nationalism that's the goal it's christian nationalism or
00:49:10.800 bust and we have our marching orders from our commander-in-chief christ himself who took back
00:49:18.640 real power from real false gods and gave it to his people to baptize real nations
00:49:27.340 with Christianity. 0.72
00:49:29.800 Any final thoughts? 0.91
00:49:31.740 Just to pick on paganism, 0.91
00:49:33.220 because it's a day that ends in Y, 0.99
00:49:35.000 which is always a good day to pick on paganism. 1.00
00:49:37.400 One of the reasons we don't have stories 0.99
00:49:38.820 about Odin or Thor
00:49:39.880 is because all of these,
00:49:41.560 specifically northern,
00:49:42.560 so not Greece and Rome,
00:49:43.480 which were very oral,
00:49:44.640 very much so,
00:49:45.240 they wrote down their legends,
00:49:46.740 as we just read from Plutarch.
00:49:48.160 But in northern Europe,
00:49:49.580 they were decidedly anti-writing anything down. 0.97
00:49:52.680 So Julius Caesar observes Celtic Druids, 0.65
00:49:55.140 they committed all of their religion to memory but that means when they were conquered when 0.98
00:50:00.660 christianity comes to the continent and sweeps them away what happens is there's nothing now 0.53
00:50:05.340 for you to go back and resurrect so if you tell me you're a pagan in 2026 oh what does that look
00:50:11.260 like oh there's certainly some some text some examples how do you worship oh you don't have
00:50:16.360 any of that the the most the oldest norse mythology is from a christian in 13th century
00:50:22.580 century Iceland after it's Christianized. Your best bet at some type of firsthand knowledge
00:50:27.980 is centuries and centuries and centuries after Christians came and defeated paganism. So paganism 0.98
00:50:33.880 in 2026, like you were saying, hey, there maybe would have been a point if you were a Germanic 0.85
00:50:37.980 tribe prior to the time of Christ, I would kind of get that. But in 2026, with no written record,
00:50:43.620 no written recollection, nothing to base it on, it's nothing more than LARPing because you hate
00:50:49.160 the moral requirements that jesus places on you there's only one european religion that can at all
00:50:54.960 be practiced today that is christianity that's right and i love what you just said because you
00:50:59.640 hit the nail on the head it's only because you hate the moral implications that are placed on
00:51:06.000 you by the christian gospel the reason why there are guys who are pushing on some issues there's
00:51:13.720 there's some things that we would have strong disagreements but on other things they would be
00:51:18.360 pushing in a similar direction politically, not theologically, but politically. And it's like,
00:51:25.600 why are you still carving out some kind of caveat? Why are you hedging your bets? Why are you allowing
00:51:32.760 for, you know, why not just say Christian, just Christian, Christian nationalist instead of just
00:51:39.480 nationalist or white nationalist or whatever. And the reason why, honestly, when you really
00:51:46.060 dig beneath the surface is because paganism kind of lets you do whatever you want. Paganism still
00:51:52.520 lets you smoke weed and sleep with your girlfriend. Even more so than even Judaism. Judaism has a 0.99
00:51:57.740 written code. Judaism has moral requirements. Paganism has none of those. Well, Judaism will 0.96
00:52:02.560 let you sleep with a seven-year-old, but, you know, depending, you know, I think that's the
00:52:07.240 Babylonian Talmud. There's a certain bracket where there are teenagers, you're in big trouble. But
00:52:13.660 if they are under actually a certain age then guilt is not imputed there's a whole rabbinic
00:52:19.660 tradition of debate exactly who's that guilt if they're under three versus over three and how much
00:52:25.180 more so can they be counted as the tempter versus tempted and if it was a goy a woman that is
00:52:30.780 gentile and a jewish man did she really entice him can he be held responsible better argue about
00:52:36.540 that for 300 pages yeah so but you're right um paganism because there's no written tradition
00:52:42.280 there's no rules and that that's what it comes down yeah i mean to a large extent celebrating
00:52:48.880 western civilization uh but only everything pre-christian would be like celebrating the
00:52:54.580 american tradition but only everything pre-1776 it's like all of the things that are great about
00:53:00.300 the thing have emerged since it's become the thing you know christianity and and so anyway
00:53:06.920 so there's a little bit of the 13 colonies were pretty baller right but but i but in terms of like
00:53:12.840 what your conception of america is today it's like we didn't have netflix in the 13 colonies
00:53:18.320 like things have gotten better since then there are some things that have gotten better but some
00:53:22.220 things that have gotten worse but but to reject it wholesale though is is it's just silly yep just
00:53:27.620 yep 100 so all right um you have your marching orders we need to make christian nations uh let's
00:53:34.180 get after it. And your personal life, your marriage, your children, being a good churchman
00:53:41.860 on the Lord's day, your local church, all that matters immensely, immensely. But it's not less
00:53:47.760 than that, but it is more than that. That's all we're trying to say. So we're not saying that
00:53:51.680 it's less than the heart. God wants your heart. We're not saying that it's less than the gospel
00:53:56.820 being preached to individuals doing the work of an evangelist and them coming one person at a time,
00:54:01.940 one heart and mind change at a time through faith in Jesus. Of course it's that. But we're
00:54:07.780 saying that in addition to that, we cannot be so heavenly bound that we're no earthly good.
00:54:13.660 We cannot just have our head in the clouds and just living in the 17th floaty spiritual dimension.
00:54:22.240 We actually need to get to work. We need Christians who run for office. We need Christians who start
00:54:27.340 institutions. We need Christians in business. We need Christians who are rich, and we need 1.00
00:54:32.200 Christians who are powerful, and we need Christians who influence. Why? Because you care about power? 0.87
00:54:38.060 Yes. Uh-huh. Yeah, we do. We do. Not because power is an end in itself. Power is neither a vice,
00:54:45.440 nor is it a virtue. Not inherently so. It is a tool, and we want Christians, the righteous,
00:54:51.100 to hold and wield the tool of power towards righteous ends
00:54:56.260 for the glory of God and the good of all people,
00:54:59.280 especially God's people.
00:55:00.740 So get to work.
00:55:01.580 Thanks for tuning in.
00:55:02.380 We'll see you next time.
00:55:03.320 Everything we do here at NXR Studios
00:55:05.580 is simply one part of a three-pronged approach
00:55:08.880 to winning America for Christ.
00:55:11.240 On the ground, we have our local church
00:55:13.760 where I preach the Bible and administer word and sacrament.
00:55:17.900 Here at NXR Studios, we focus on politics
00:55:20.800 and culture. But we have a third organization that I am the president of, Right Response
00:55:27.100 Ministries, that sits between the church and NXR Studios. Right Response Ministries puts out weekly
00:55:34.000 written and audio content focused on theology, discipleship, and the church at large. If you'd
00:55:41.540 like to support what we do over there, Right Response Ministries is a 501c3 charitable
00:55:47.620 organization and your donation of any amount is tax deductible. If you'd like to donate,
00:55:53.920 you can simply go to rightresponseministries.com forward slash donate. Again, that's
00:56:00.880 rightresponseministries.com forward slash donate. Thank you very much.