The NXR Podcast - March 31, 2023


DAILY TRUTH - Clear Signs Of An Abusive Pastor

Hosted by
Joel Webbon Harrison Smith Antonio Griffith Dale Partridge Wewsley Todd Calvin Robinson
Mentioned
David French Phil Vicious Joe Biden Paul
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Episode Stats


Length

11 minutes

Words per minute

144.2

Word count

1,631

Sentence count

66

Harmful content

Misogyny

1

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Toxicity

1

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Summary

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In this episode, Pastor David French and I discuss what spiritual abuse is and what it means in the context of the church. We discuss the role of spiritual authority in the church and how it relates to spiritual abuse. God bless!

Transcript

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00:00:42 Jesus said,
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00:00:52 There is no such thing as inherent human authority.
00:00:58 meaning that an unjust law is not a law.
00:01:05 An unjust law is no law at all.
00:01:09 And that applies to the civil realm,
00:01:12 that applies to the home,
00:01:15 and that applies to the church.
00:01:18 Would someone in spiritual authority,
00:01:21 an ecclesiastical authority in the realm of the church
00:01:24 says something or commands something that is not rooted in the commandments of god in scripture
00:01:33 a church member not only is it permissible to disobey your pastor it is actually required
00:01:41 that you resist that ecclesiastical tyranny that's why when things are not clear one of the things
00:01:51 that a godly and mature pastor will seek to do is to exercise the authority of counsel rather than
00:01:58 the authority of command because counsel can be rejected when a pastor gives you his counsel you
00:02:05 can say thanks but no thanks but when a command is given it's given with a binding quality and now
00:02:14 if it is not a command of scripture and the pastor is wrong you must still resist it but the pastor
00:02:19 is actually exercising tyranny. That would be spiritual abuse. That he is going beyond his
00:02:26 jurisdiction. All human authority is vested authority. There is no such thing as inherent
00:02:33 human authority. And with this vested authority, all human authority has very clear binding
00:02:40 jurisdictions you have authority this far and no further a pastor only has so much authority
00:02:51 and he must not overstep the bounds of his authority that's why again with covid when it
00:02:59 came to shutting down churches my position was to keep the church open one because of revelation one
00:03:06 that we started with in our worship today, a theological reason, but a practical reason,
00:03:12 not just theological, but just logical, and not wanting to be an abusive ecclesiastical tyrant.
00:03:19 If the church is closed, everyone who's in the church who feels obligated and convicted
00:03:25 to worship, their conscience is dismissed. You cannot worship God. We close the church.
00:03:31 if the church is open guess what that position allows for people can stay home and some who feel
00:03:40 called to worship can worship one position objectively accommodates more people one
00:03:46 position namely opening the church allows those to stay home if they wish and those who want to
00:03:52 worship to worship but the position of closing the church is essentially pastors all over our nation
00:03:57 who said to their congregants who felt convicted by the Holy Spirit and from the Word of God,
00:04:02 like Revelation chapter 1, like Hebrews chapter 10 verse 24 and 25, do not neglect the gathering
00:04:08 of the saints as some have done. Those who felt convicted from the Spirit and the Word of God
00:04:14 that we should be gathering. Pastors who closed their churches said, your conscience doesn't
00:04:19 matter i don't care and i will force you to sin against your own conscience and that pastor should
00:04:29 be removed that is abuse that is spiritual abuse when we think here's here's the deal when we think
00:04:37 of spiritual abuse abuse we think that guy yells when he preaches or we think that guy takes really
00:04:45 strong positions like the husband is the head of his wife or we think that guy that guy believes
00:04:53 that when it comes to parenting uh that the parent who spares the rod hates their child
00:04:59 yeah that's that's quoting scripture that's a quote not exegesis a quote like that guy's harsh
00:05:06 no but when when the bible talks about what's actually abusive think of the false teachers
00:05:12 that Paul's constantly combating.
00:05:14 Do you know what is characteristic
00:05:16 and descriptive of the false teachers?
00:05:18 They're the guys who have smooth and flattering speech,
00:05:22 the scripture says.
00:05:23 The bad guys, right?
00:05:24 Are we the baddies? 0.99
00:05:25 I wish Big Eva would do that.
00:05:27 Are we the baddies?
00:05:28 Yes.
00:05:30 David French, am I the baddie?
00:05:31 Phil Vicious, am I?
00:05:32 Yes.
00:05:33 The baddies in the New Testament,
00:05:35 they're the guys who have the very smooth tone.
00:05:39 the nicest guys are the bad guys and then the guys who who preach sermons like peter on the
00:05:49 day of pentecost in acts 2 that says this jesus who you crucified god has resurrected and made him
00:05:56 both savior and lord right preacher don't say you say we we include yourself we peter says you
00:06:04 look at all the old-timey preachers Spurgeon we was not in his vocabulary I don't even know if he
00:06:11 knew the word it's you always you that's how the apostles the good guys preached the way that the
00:06:20 bad guys talked was smooth seductive nice flattering so their tongue was kind but what
00:06:31 made the person actually a heretic was not how they said things but what they said
00:06:39 we live in a culture and the evangelical church has opted for this position as well we live in
00:06:47 a culture and a church age where we care more about how something is said than what is said
00:06:54 the party that is always identified by the New Testament apostles as the false teachers
00:07:01 are the ones who are introducing strange doctrines. It doesn't matter how they introduce it.
00:07:10 It doesn't matter what speech or tone or attitude they have. What matters is not how, but what.
00:07:18 and in fact the apostle paul goes even further and talks about those who are quarrelsome he uses
00:07:24 the word quarrelsome and upsetting whole households and you know who they are the
00:07:29 quarrelsome people truly objectively quarrelsome in the mind of paul are the people who have the
00:07:35 nicest tone you'll ever find smooth and flattering speech but they are quarrelsome because they are
00:07:43 the ones who are introducing to the apostolic church strange doctrine that's causing fights
00:07:49 and conflict the person who introduces wrong doctrine is the one who is labeled as the
00:07:55 quarreler and the person who defends the truth even if he does it with a raised voice is not
00:08:02 the quarreler but that is the one who is faithful and for the record the reason why i believe
00:08:10 faithful pastors do preach and don't just pace back and forth between two ferns with skinny jeans
00:08:18 and a plexiglass pulpit, right? That the pulpit is just as see-through as the pastor's soul. I'm
00:08:24 just going to share with you. The reason why faithful pastors don't preach like that, the
00:08:30 reason why they have pulpits that look like tanks, and the reason why they yell from time to time,
00:08:35 and they say we occasionally but they also say you is because the scripture commands let the one
00:08:41 who speaks speak as though he is speaking the very oracles of god so when i preach i am not getting
00:08:50 up here to share with you my thoughts if i am to preach at all scripture commands me to preach as
00:08:58 though i am heralding the very oracles of god so it is not i feel like or i think or maybe
00:09:05 if i've got a theological maybe in my arsenal you save that for a podcast or a conversation
00:09:12 over a snack with a friend you don't bring that into the pulpit of god because here you herald
00:09:20 the oracles of god you don't whisper
00:09:24 you don't speculate you preach you preach and although many would say that's harsh tone and
00:09:36 therefore that is quarrelsomeness the bible says precisely the opposite can i be frank with you
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