The NXR Podcast - April 01, 2023


QUESTIONS - Would Pastor Joel Rather Attend A Presbyterian Church Or A Reformed Baptist Church That Holds To Radical Two-Kingdoms Theology？

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Joel Webbon Harrison Smith Antonio Griffith Dale Partridge Wewsley Todd Calvin Robinson
Mentioned
Ebi Designs Doug Wilson Joe Biden Baptists Joel
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What would you do if you had to choose between going to a Presbyterian or a Reformed Baptist church? What would you choose? Pastor Doug Wilson answers this question and much more in this episode of the podcast.

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00:00:37 take the time to do so. Thank you so much. God bless. I have to choose between conservative
00:00:47 Presbyterian? That's a great question. Or R2K Reformed Baptist. That blows my mind when
00:00:53 Baptists are R2K, but it's a thing. Radical Two Kingdom Reformed Baptist. What would Joel do? 1.00
00:01:02 WWJD, right? What would Joel do? P.S. I loathe R2K. God bless you, Ebi Designs. Me too.
00:01:11 Jesus, I believe, also hates it, which is why we do. 0.57
00:01:15 So I have to choose between a conservative Presbyterian church or an R2K Reformed Baptist. 1.00
00:01:20 Easy. 0.82
00:01:22 The Presbyterian church.
00:01:24 Assuming that they're not radical two kingdom guys, then yeah, for sure.
00:01:28 The conservative Presbyterian church.
00:01:30 In a heartbeat, I would go to a Presbyterian.
00:01:32 You guys know, you know, you're like, well, of course, Joel will go to a Presbyterian.
00:01:35 He's already basically a Presbyterian.
00:01:38 Somebody's probably saying that.
00:01:38 But yeah, I would go to a Presbyterian church if I didn't feel called to be a pastor and
00:01:43 I was looking for a church to be a faithful member in and lead my wife and children.
00:01:48 I would go to a faithful, conservative Presbyterian church in a heartbeat, in a heartbeat.
00:01:55 If I lived in Moscow and I didn't, again, didn't feel called to pastor a church myself.
00:02:00 Yeah, we, my family and I, we would be going to Doug Wilson's church and we'd be going
00:02:04 and we'd be proud to go to his church, happy to go to his church.
00:02:08 um, 80 Robles, um, another good friend of mine, uh, had him on the show multiple times. You guys
00:02:16 know, but, uh, yeah, I like, if he was a pastor, he's not, he's actually going to Reformed Baptist
00:02:21 church right now. Uh, but if he was pastoring a Presbyterian church, he's, I would go to,
00:02:25 I would gladly submit underneath 80 Robles Presbyterian pastoral authority. Gladly.
00:02:34 and here's the beauty of a baptist going to a presbyterian church because it's easier right so
00:02:39 instead of a two-way street it's it's like a one-way stream um it's much easier for a baptist
00:02:44 to go to a presbyterian church just to be frank to be honest with you it's much easier for a reformed
00:02:50 baptist christian um and and family to go to a presbyterian church than it is for the presbyterian
00:02:56 to go to a baptist church and the reason why is because when a presbyterian goes to a baptist
00:03:01 church. Um, and they have a kid like, like the wife gives birth to a new kid, a baby, um, that
00:03:09 Baptist church camp, you know, the pastors there, their conscience is bound. They can't baptize the
00:03:13 baby. And so they have to figure that out. Are we going to leave the church or can we go to our old
00:03:19 church back home with mom and dad? That's Presbyterian and paid a Baptist to get the baby, 0.99
00:03:22 you know, baptized and then come back or whatever. You've got to figure it out. But when a Baptist 0.98
00:03:25 church goes to a Presbyterian church, then the Baptist, you know, obviously the Presbyterian
00:03:30 church is going to disagree with you, but that's okay. But, um, the Baptist parents can say, we
00:03:35 don't want our babies to be baptized. And most Presbyterian churches, you know, solid ones that
00:03:41 are conservative and biblically faithful and loving and kind. Um, most of the Presbyterian
00:03:46 guys I know, you know what they would say if I joined their church and you know, my, my son
00:03:50 Franklin has not been baptized. He's six months old. Um, they'd say, Hey, we would be honored to
00:03:55 baptize your baby and i'd say hey no thanks and they'd say okay we'll baptize him late right in
00:04:02 their view that's all we'll give him a late baptism and in my view i'd say we'll give him
00:04:06 a biblical baptism you know tomato tomato late baptism biblical baptism um but that's it you
00:04:14 know what i mean it's so so it's it's easier for the baptist to go to the presbyterian church
00:04:18 because the presbyterian church will baptize your kid later when they make a a credible profession
00:04:25 of faith they won't like it but they'll do it whereas the baptist church will not baptize your
00:04:30 baby because they just they can't you see what i'm saying so and that's not because baptists are
00:04:37 not charitable and presbyterians are it has nothing to do with the person and and their
00:04:42 charitability i don't know if that's a word you know how charitable the person is it's not about
00:04:48 the person it's about the position it's just the nature of the theological position the presbyterian
00:04:54 position and their view of the covenants is more inclusive it is it's more inclusive and uh and so
00:05:04 you would do just fine like yeah you'll have some disagreements ebby designs you'll have some
00:05:10 disagreements um but yeah you'd be a hundred times better off in a conservative presbyterian church
00:05:16 than a radical two kingdom theology reform baptist church can i be frank with you for just a second
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