The NXR Podcast - December 01, 2022


DAILY TRUTH - The Christian & Alcohol

Topics
alcohol biblical theology
Hosted by
Joel Webbon Harrison Smith Antonio Griffith Dale Partridge Wewsley Todd Calvin Robinson
Mentioned
Nathan Anderson Jamie White Gary DeMar Joel Webin Joe Boot Proverbs Wine
DAILY TRUTH - The Freedom of the Conscience DAILY TRUTH - The Importance of a Good Reputation

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11 minutes

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1,929

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Drinking should not be seen as a sin in the eyes of the Christian. In fact, the Bible actually affirms the goodness of alcohol when used in a proper way. However, it also warns us of the dangers of drunkness.

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00:00:19 Jesus said,
00:00:20 Man cannot live on bread alone, but from every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.
00:00:25 You're listening to Daily Truth.
00:00:30 So, let's begin with not a drunkard.
00:00:32 This is the front side of the second page of your notes, Roman numeral number nine.
00:00:38 Not a drunkard, some translations say, not given to wine.
00:00:42 Now, the Bible does not prohibit all drinking.
00:00:45 And that's the position of the elders and I here at the Response Church.
00:00:49 Now, some, as I mentioned last week, there are some pastors who are absolutely faithful
00:00:53 and that we absolutely honor and respect that would disagree.
00:00:56 And that's okay.
00:00:57 And they're going to attempt to bind the consciences, not through domineering, not through coercion, but through persuasion.
00:01:03 They're going to attempt to bind the consciences of the members of their church, and it's well within their pastoral rights through persuasion, not coercion, but persuasion to do so.
00:01:13 And we honor that, we respect that, we recognize that, and we're not going to give them a hard time.
00:01:19 But we also, likewise, have the right, as a plurality of elders, as an elder team of this local flock, to say,
00:01:25 well, this is what we see in the Word of God.
00:01:27 This is what we think the right position should be.
00:01:30 And so in regards to an elder,
00:01:32 the qualification of not being a drunker,
00:01:34 not given to wine,
00:01:36 we see a biblical theology of alcohol, if you will.
00:01:39 We would say that the Bible does not prohibit all drinking.
00:01:42 In fact, to the contrary,
00:01:45 the scripture actually affirms the goodness of alcohol.
00:01:48 Here's one verse from Psalm chapter 104, verses 14 and 15.
00:01:53 It says, you, speaking to God, the psalmist speaking to God, you cause the grass to grow for the livestock and plants for man to cultivate, that he may bring forth food from the earth and wine to gladden the heart of man.
00:02:07 Who does all this?
00:02:09 God does all this.
00:02:10 God is the one who waters the earth.
00:02:12 He's the one who produces crops so that man can eat.
00:02:14 He's the one who produces wheat and barley and all these things so that the livestock have provision.
00:02:19 And God, the same God who waters the earth so that he might providentially provide for his creatures, his creation, both man and beast, he also, this same God, produces from the earth wine for the purpose of gladdening the heart of man.
00:02:39 This is a positive conveying of alcohol.
00:02:44 So the Bible actually does speak positively to the goodness of alcohol when used in a proper way.
00:02:52 However, the Bible also warns, to be fair, of the dangers of alcohol.
00:02:58 Here's another verse.
00:02:59 This is Proverbs chapter 20, verse 1.
00:03:00 It says,
00:03:01 Wine is a mocker, strong drink a brawler, and whoever is intoxicated,
00:03:06 notice that, key word, intoxicated by it, is not wise.
00:03:11 So what can we glean from this? 0.99
00:03:13 Well, we can see that drunkenness is clearly a sin for all Christians. 1.00
00:03:17 We find this elsewhere in Galatians chapter 5, verse 21. 1.00
00:03:20 But it is a disqualifying sin for an elder.
00:03:24 And we see this in the verse that we're looking at right now, namely 1 Timothy chapter 3, verse 3.
00:03:30 Now, as I've already said, just to remind you, I've said this last week and the week prior. 0.76
00:03:34 But in a nutshell, the difference between elders and all followers of Jesus, elders and Christians,
00:03:40 is in a nutshell we could say an elder must be all these things which if we were to sum them all up
00:03:48 it would simply be spiritual maturity so an elder must be spiritually mature and a christian
00:03:54 should be spiritually mature so so all of god's people should not be given to wine
00:04:00 and we take that to mean and our understanding looking at multiple commentaries not given to
00:04:05 drunkenness and and not even close to drunkenness there is command after command after command in
00:04:12 scripture especially in the face of opposition especially in these last days this church age
00:04:20 where the devil is prowling around like a roaring lion seeking who he may devour we take the
00:04:25 commands of scripture to be sober-minded and alert and watchful to mean that not only should a
00:04:32 christian not get drunk but a christian shouldn't even be close now i'm going to say one more thing
00:04:37 in this regard i have noticed that that the word drunk as it is used this vernacular as it is used
00:04:46 by christians seems to be different in the way from the way that it's used by non-christians
00:04:53 because non-christians there's there's not necessarily something to be ashamed of right
00:04:58 they're not holding to the same standard the word of god that we're holding to and so they
00:05:02 don't have the inclination, the temptation to avoid drunkenness. They don't feel like,
00:05:09 I can't be drunk because the Bible says, well, if they're not a Christian, they don't care. 0.85
00:05:13 So there's not that hindrance or that propensity to, I don't want to be drunk because the Bible
00:05:20 says drunkenness is a sin. If you're not a Christian, then drunkenness is not something
00:05:24 to be ashamed of. In many ways, in our culture today, especially among young people, drunkenness
00:05:29 is a point of pride, right? Last weekend we got hammered, right? So it's something to boast about.
00:05:35 Here's the deal though. I have noticed that if we were to pair these side by side, comparing and
00:05:40 contrasting, the Christian and the lost, the lost person might drink seven beers and say,
00:05:49 last weekend was awesome, I got hammered. And the Christian would say, who also drank seven beers,
00:05:54 would say, I was tipsy.
00:05:58 Have you noticed that? 1.00
00:05:59 So the Christian, what I've noticed 1.00
00:06:00 is because drunkenness is a sin, 0.95
00:06:02 clearly in scripture, 0.99
00:06:03 what the Christian will instinctively do 0.99
00:06:05 is have the lost people 0.96
00:06:07 because they don't have this problem.
00:06:08 They're not trying to avoid drunkenness
00:06:10 because they're not ultimately trying to adhere
00:06:12 to the standards of the word of God.
00:06:13 So the lost person is,
00:06:15 they're just sober and drunk.
00:06:16 That's it. 1.00
00:06:17 For the Christian, there's buzzed and there's tipsy 1.00
00:06:20 and then there's, you know what I mean? 1.00
00:06:21 Have you noticed that?
00:06:22 Right, because we don't want to say
00:06:24 that we were intoxicated
00:06:25 because we know that that's a sin.
00:06:27 So again, I would just provide that for you,
00:06:29 some pastoral counsel there,
00:06:31 and just saying,
00:06:32 the last time you were tipsy,
00:06:36 maybe to kind of,
00:06:37 to more objectively measure
00:06:39 whether or not you were actually tipsy or drunk,
00:06:42 if you have a non-Christian friend,
00:06:45 ask them what they would have called that. 0.99
00:06:47 It's very likely they would have called it
00:06:49 blackout drunk.
00:06:51 And you're calling it a little buzzed.
00:06:53 Let's consider that.
00:06:56 The Bible doesn't just say, don't get blackout drunk, right?
00:06:59 The Bible says, avoid intoxication.
00:07:02 That's the prohibition.
00:07:04 But then what the Bible speaks positively to is sober-mindedness.
00:07:09 So if the Bible commands, and it doesn't just suggest, it commands sober-mindedness.
00:07:14 So if the Bible positively commands sober-mindedness, and then negatively prohibits drunkenness,
00:07:20 We have to consider which, if it's two sides, if you will, to two polar ends, which one should we be striving as the people of God to be closer to?
00:07:31 Like, here is intoxication, and so I'm going to just live my life right here.
00:07:37 Or, if the Bible doesn't just prohibit intoxication, but it also positively commands, not suggests, but commands sober-mindedness, alertness, watchfulness, then the Christian should be living over here.
00:07:49 now again i don't think that that means a christian can never drink but we should consider
00:07:53 this carefully alcohol is is something that is there's a goodness god speaks to the goodness
00:07:59 of alcohol but god also speaks to the immense danger and and we need to be careful with that
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