The NXR Podcast - NXR Livestream - James Talarico： Son of the Devil

00:00:00.000 There are interpretations of certain passages from the Torah where some folks will even

00:00:12.480 say that there is some subtle instructions for how to perform an abortion in the ancient

00:00:19.180 world, certain things to drink.

00:00:21.300 For me, prophetic voices like Jesus have helped me reckon with my own whiteness, my own masculinity,

00:00:27.220 my own certainty, my own ego. It's a never-ending process and it's a painful process.

00:00:34.520 Today we're doing a deep dive on James Tallarico. If you're not familiar, he is a rising star in

00:00:39.940 the Democrat political party and he is a raging leftist. The dude is straight up a communist. He

00:00:46.660 is pro-abortion. He's pro-LGBT mafia. He's even pro-transgenderism in the case of young children. 0.98

00:00:53.880 But here's an angle perhaps you haven't considered.

00:00:57.000 He's also, believe it or not, a Christian nationalist.

00:01:00.680 No, he's not a fascist.

00:01:02.540 No, he's not on the right wing.

00:01:04.620 He is a Christian nationalist because at the end of the day, here's the deal.

00:01:07.820 It's not whether but which.

00:01:09.480 It's not whether we're going to get a Christian nationalist.

00:01:12.440 It's which kind of Christian nationalist will we actually get.

00:01:16.260 Notice this.

00:01:16.900 James Tallarico, despite all his leftist communism, is constantly in his politics making appeals to spiritual authority.

00:01:26.040 He is using Christianity.

00:01:28.240 Historic, traditional Christianity? No way. 0.85

00:01:31.040 But Christianity, some perverted form of it, nevertheless. 0.96

00:01:35.120 Just like Satan, he is using scripture but twisting and tweaking and perverting it to support his communist agenda. 0.83

00:01:44.360 This is a guy who believes that the Bible, that the Christian faith, should ultimately govern our politics.

00:01:51.360 The problem is that his Christian faith is not the historic Christian faith.

00:01:56.240 His Christian faith is Satan's Christian faith, quoting scripture to God himself, Jesus in the wilderness,

00:02:03.420 as Satan seeks to tempt him, but perverting and twisting every verse in the Bible, 0.83

00:02:08.720 taking it out of context to meet an end that is perverse and destructive.

00:02:13.740 That's our episode today. We're bringing receipts. We're showing clips. Let's dive in.

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00:04:03.620 radical christian nationalist pastor joel webin joel webin i'm gonna talk about joel webin

00:04:12.700 joel webin is an accident

00:04:33.620 one of us one of us hey all right radical christian nationalist james tallarico

00:04:50.880 christian nationalist presbyterian seminary educated he's why candidate for senate

00:04:56.320 he's our guy we've got a christian nationalist appealing to biblical authority he's in the

00:05:02.660 Trained by the Presbyterians in the town square.

00:05:06.140 A reformed guy on Joe Rogan.

00:05:08.020 Beautiful.

00:05:09.260 We're so back.

00:05:10.800 We are so back.

00:05:12.020 And I just want to say, because I really want this guy to win.

00:05:14.440 He seems like exactly the kind of person who should be in charge of the country.

00:05:18.080 So I want to just go on record and say, Joel Webin, friendly, moderate centrist, Joel Webin, officially endorses.

00:05:26.440 And I want this to go viral.

00:05:27.720 I officially endorse James Tallarico for any position.

00:05:33.040 Make him king.

00:05:34.000 I mean, he is such a great guy.

00:05:36.320 We are in his corner.

00:05:37.620 We're rooting for him.

00:05:39.040 This guy needs to win the election.

00:05:41.000 He asked my endorsement, 100%.

00:05:42.900 I think that will help his candidacy for sure.

00:05:45.400 Oh, yeah.

00:05:46.020 You're in his court.

00:05:47.040 What could go wrong?

00:05:47.840 What could go wrong?

00:05:48.680 James Tallarico, he just won the primary,

00:05:50.960 so we're not yet to the midterms where voters will actually go out

00:05:53.500 and decide between the Democrat or the Republican candidate

00:05:55.600 for Senate in the United States.

00:05:57.440 On the Republican side of things, 0.65

00:05:58.480 it's going to a runoff.

00:05:59.380 John Cornyn versus Ken Paxton.

00:06:01.100 That's on the Republican side of things.

00:06:02.680 But the Democrats have already chosen their nominee.

00:06:04.460 He ran against Jasmine Crockett.

00:06:05.880 Jasmine Crockett was a representative

00:06:07.460 representing Houston, Texas, a black woman.

00:06:10.120 It's great to see.

00:06:10.920 Wait, he ran as a Democrat?

00:06:12.340 Yeah, he ran.

00:06:13.240 Yeah, that's crazy.

00:06:14.600 He's like, this is news to me.

00:06:16.340 He ran as a Democrat.

00:06:17.620 Now, I will say, I mean, he's ticking all the boxes.

00:06:20.120 This dude is Presbyterian trained.

00:06:22.220 He's a Protestant. 1.00

00:06:23.920 He's a white man who just beat a black woman. 1.00

00:06:28.200 He's a Christian nationalist appealing to spiritual claims of authority. 0.99

00:06:33.640 On abortion, on transgender issues, on the border.

00:06:36.980 He invoking God's law. 0.93

00:06:39.540 Well, here's the deal.

00:06:40.420 The real reason he probably won.

00:06:42.800 Texas is still, despite the efforts of those who hate it, it is 67% Christian.

00:06:47.680 That's 27% evangelical Protestant, 10% mainline Protestant.

00:06:51.280 The historically black Protestant is 5%, and 22% Catholic.

00:06:55.160 So 67% Christian in Texas.

00:06:57.740 And, of course, that's very nominal.

00:06:59.220 Some of those are names on rolls that have never actually gone to church. 0.50

00:07:02.180 But within that, you could say reliably 30%, 40% of Texas is tried in blue, dyed in the wool Christians that go to church,

00:07:10.000 whether it be a cowboy church, whether it be a megachurch, whether it be Catholic.

00:07:13.180 They're Christian, and they go to church on Sunday.

00:07:15.080 And if you're going to win an election, here's the point.

00:07:17.600 If you're going to win an election, you're going to have to appeal to them.

00:07:20.920 Now, Texas is also majority actually Hispanic. So that's coming in as of the last census. It's about 41 percent. Non-Hispanic white is about 40 percent. So I won't necessarily say that Texas is also majority evangelical and majority white. But Hispanics do typically, religious Hispanics, do also tend to invoke religion when it comes to politics, generally skew more conservative than, for example, blacks and Jews when it comes to voting patterns.

00:07:44.800 So if you're here in Texas and you want to send up a senator to the Senate, you're going to have to appeal to Christians.

00:07:52.580 You're going to have to appeal to evangelicals.

00:07:54.920 And the Democrat Party, if you've been kind of the tail of the tape—

00:07:57.500 If you're in Texas, you're going to also have to appeal to Indians, let's be honest.

00:07:59.860 At this point—and here's the thing. 0.91

00:08:01.680 That is so recent.

00:08:03.660 Texas is over one, whether you go to Frisco or Irving or down here in Austin.

00:08:07.420 But guys, that just happened in the last two to three years.

00:08:10.100 People haven't even grasped the scale of it yet, what happened under Joe Biden.

00:08:13.700 So you have to appeal to evangelicals. Soon you're going to have to appeal to Indians. I mean, Greg Abbott, honestly, he was like, time to get ahead of the curve. We're celebrating Dwali. I know my electorate. I can see how the future is going. But James Tallarico, the Senate, the Democrats have had a real problem. And the problem has been, let's just be honest, minority women. They've run Kamala Harris. Obviously, they ran Hillary Clinton in 2016. Jasmine Crockett, whatever it would be. Here's the deal. 0.77

00:08:41.460 running foreigners it's not working out really well it just hasn't the only one who beat donald

00:08:46.700 trump in a general election was a catholic joe biden a white white catholic man and so those

00:08:53.640 are the demographics that honestly not they're not going to win the interest groups right the

00:08:57.940 dei focus group poll but when it comes to the main election general general election uh foreigners

00:09:04.360 they're not really polling very well now so that represents a pivot in strategy when it comes to 0.97

00:09:10.460 foreigners let's be honest they typically wear their affections on their sleeves i think of the

00:09:14.400 somalians up in the midwest the northern midwest they have explicitly said hey we are here to 0.99

00:09:19.940 establish little somalia we are doing this on behalf of somalians back home in somalia we don't

00:09:25.180 need a manhattan institute think tank of interns working 40 hours a week what did they mean by this

00:09:29.860 so they're somalians here and they've stated their goal is to benefit and send money to somalians 0.92

00:09:34.780 here this is an interesting strategy what could they be getting at no they're foreigners right

00:09:39.380 They're not Americans. 0.92

00:09:40.460 They prioritize others, people that they're related to that are not Americans.

00:09:44.560 So that strategy, it's not working.

00:09:47.160 It hasn't worked recently, the last five to ten years.

00:09:49.700 And it's kind of obvious.

00:09:51.540 The play is kind of there.

00:09:52.740 The sentiment has kind of turned.

00:09:54.320 But James Tallarico could really be the next play, the new play,

00:09:58.240 the new way to take this group of evangelicals, majority white, and grab their vote.

00:10:04.900 James Tallarico is from right here, South Round Rock, is where he was born and grew up.

00:10:08.220 He's the son of a single mother, went to Austin Presbyterian Seminary.

00:10:12.360 So he went to seminary.

00:10:13.600 He's seminary trained.

00:10:14.640 And he served four terms in the Texas House of Representatives.

00:10:18.440 He did that after walking the entire district by foot.

00:10:21.660 The person resigned that originally held the seat.

00:10:23.900 He took it.

00:10:24.720 And so he's been a very progressive representative in the Texas House.

00:10:28.420 Now, the Texas House is pretty overwhelmingly Republican.

00:10:31.420 That's not to say it's actually conservative because the Texas House is a joke for the most part.

00:10:36.360 It is a joke. 1.00

00:10:36.940 We got rid of Kim Paxton.

00:10:39.180 Oh, never mind.

00:10:40.320 We did not.

00:10:40.940 But he did not.

00:10:41.460 He's still lost.

00:10:42.280 He's still lost.

00:10:42.880 That's encouraging.

00:10:43.880 He's going to a runoff where, again, Trump is expected to endorse.

00:10:48.240 It was so close.

00:10:49.520 Yeah, nobody got 50%.

00:10:50.640 Yeah, you're right. 0.99

00:10:50.960 But Trump is expected to endorse John Cornyn, who is pathetic, who is a joke. 0.99

00:10:57.420 And so Cornyn will probably win. 0.99

00:10:59.140 Paxton, who has been.

00:11:01.240 Paxton likes to put lawsuits in and kind of act like he won because he filed the paperwork.

00:11:05.120 But he has been a strong conservative voice.

00:11:07.300 He's gone after porn companies here. 0.95

00:11:09.060 He's gone after transgenderism. 1.00

00:11:10.720 He's gone after those things. 1.00

00:11:11.940 And he's been good.

00:11:12.900 Again, some of that is I filed the paperwork.

00:11:14.840 We're filing a lawsuit.

00:11:16.200 Hear me roar.

00:11:17.060 But he's going and he tried to run a Senate race and win.

00:11:20.320 And he's probably not going to because Trump is going to throw his ballot in with John

00:11:24.060 Cornyn in that race.

00:11:25.060 But in the Texas House, Tallarico is now pivoted over and he will be the nominee, whether it

00:11:29.280 be against Paxton or Cornyn, probably Cornyn, to run for the United States Senate as Democrats

00:11:33.960 try to actually get back the house they'll probably win in the midterms especially after

00:11:38.340 this war which is rumored to go until september at this point white house has come out and said

00:11:42.440 this little war could last 12 hours september four days four weeks 12 months to slow the spread

00:11:47.640 yeah yeah great and so uh you need to be and the reason i'll say this the reason james tallarico

00:11:54.820 will potentially be successful the reason he'll be popular is because he appeals to evangelicals

00:12:00.140 who don't know their Bible.

00:12:02.160 That's right.

00:12:02.440 That's why if he wins, he will win. 1.00

00:12:04.840 He appeals to dumb, low-information evangelicals 0.99

00:12:08.040 who have opted out, who go for the rhetoric, 0.99

00:12:10.100 who go for the appearance, the thought, the idea of niceness.

00:12:14.900 Yeah, he's one of us.

00:12:16.000 Compassionate.

00:12:16.820 Exactly.

00:12:17.800 Low-information evangelicals are who they're targeting,

00:12:20.900 and if he wins, it will be because he successfully pulled the wool over their eyes.

00:12:24.660 Yeah, it's a lot like the Beto O'Rourke candidacy,

00:12:28.120 but it's like it's almost like they looked at that and they said okay focus group beto he was

00:12:32.160 close what if we just sprinkle a little christian christianity literally and and run the same

00:12:37.560 candidate he's well-spoken he's credentialed right he's got his mdiv and he's went to harvard and

00:12:43.480 he's local he's a pastor and so so this is like this is something we've seen you could point to

00:12:48.620 beto o'rourke you could point to pete but it's all kind of the same candidate it's like let let's

00:12:54.300 like use uh well well one let's use the youth yet let's let's make him fast talking let's make him

00:13:00.600 more or less intelligent um and uh let let let's let him sprinkle his little liberal christian view

00:13:07.280 here and there to like buttress up hey you know conservatives listen to this and they're like hey

00:13:12.320 that's not a bad argument from the bible and that's the point that we're trying to make in

00:13:15.620 today's episode is you need to understand as a christian if you're listening to this broadcast

00:13:20.120 you're a christian you believe that christ is king you need to understand that all the christian

00:13:25.140 jargon that he's using he's not doing it because he thinks it's a liability right he's not saying

00:13:30.340 man i really want to win um as a democrat with all of the you know christian haters in texas as

00:13:38.380 my base you know and uh but i'm you know i'm gonna sprinkle in some of this christian stuff i i know

00:13:44.540 that it'll hurt my chances but i really believe it and so i'm gonna try to win despite using

00:13:49.560 Christian language. No, he's trying to win because of the Christian language. He knows that he can't

00:13:54.400 win in Texas unless he feigns Christianity. So he's not doing this as a profound conviction, 0.64

00:14:01.620 knowing that it will hurt his chances, but trying to win despite that. No, he's doing it because he

00:14:08.340 knows that it helps his chances. If you listen to this broadcast, you know the things that he's

00:14:12.900 saying aren't true to the Bible. You know that these things are not actually Christian. You're 0.65

00:14:16.900 aware of that. But our point in today's broadcast is to make you aware of how many nominal Christians

00:14:24.140 there actually are in this country and how many there are in the state of Texas, that they will

00:14:28.980 hear this kind of lingo from James Tallarico, you know, quoting the scripture over there and then

00:14:35.780 quoting some random thing from the Torah over here. And it might work. It actually might work.

00:14:45.080 So biblical illiteracy is at an all-time high,

00:14:49.160 and it is a massive, massive liability that we need to be aware of.

00:14:53.740 And so we're going to be taking some of James' arguments today on the show,

00:14:58.380 showing you clips, bringing receipts,

00:15:00.480 and actually breaking them down and dismantling them,

00:15:03.520 debunking them in real time on this episode.

00:15:06.580 Let's go right into it.

00:15:07.680 I'm going to roll four clips.

00:15:08.740 It's going to be about six minutes.

00:15:10.140 If you are driving, just pull the car over.

00:15:12.800 You're not going to be able to hear this. 1.00

00:15:14.220 the amount of gayness going on in one year and focus on the road, 1.00

00:15:17.300 you're going to cause an accident. 1.00

00:15:18.380 So pull the car over, get into Chuck E.

00:15:20.360 Cheese's parking lot.

00:15:21.320 As a wise man once said, Ricky Bobby, I'm getting, 1.00

00:15:24.600 I'm getting dizzy from all the gayness. 1.00

00:15:27.080 You're going to watch these clips and you're going to be like, 1.00

00:15:28.720 Oh my goodness, I need to lay down. 1.00

00:15:31.040 It's, it's gay. 1.00

00:15:32.040 You've been warned. 1.00

00:15:32.660 We're not responsible.

00:15:33.460 Let's roll the clips. 0.95

00:15:34.740 Treat our Southern border like our front porch. 0.91

00:15:37.320 We should have a giant welcome mat out front and we should have a lock on

00:15:41.460 the door.

00:15:42.280 Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

00:15:44.220 You have a right to know who's coming into your house, and you should be welcoming the stranger into your home and providing that hospitality.

00:15:51.820 In committee, I listened to 15 hours of testimony on this bill. 0.98

00:15:57.400 The worst part for me was the number of Christians who used scripture to justify hurting children.

00:16:07.120 Even on this floor today, a member tried to justify a hateful amendment in the name of God's law.

00:16:14.220 So let's talk about that.

00:16:17.060 The first two lines of the Bible, the first two lines in Genesis,

00:16:24.220 use two different Hebrew words to describe God.

00:16:28.840 One is the masculine Hebrew noun for divinity.

00:16:34.140 The second is the feminine Hebrew noun for spirit.

00:16:39.640 God is both masculine and feminine and everything in between. 0.96

00:16:46.520 God is non-binary. 0.78

00:16:50.600 In Genesis 1.26, God speaks of God's self in the plural,

00:16:57.540 saying, let us make human beings in our image to be like us.

00:17:04.740 That's the infinite multitude of God.

00:17:08.660 The masculine, the feminine, and everything in between.

00:17:14.580 Trans children are God's children, made in God's own image.

00:17:21.900 There's nothing wrong with them.

00:17:24.680 Nothing at all.

00:17:26.680 They are perfect, they are beautiful, and they are sacred.

00:17:32.460 How do you think about the competing claims of different religions?

00:17:35.620 Do you believe Christianity to be more true than other religions?

00:17:38.940 Do you believe there to be exclusivity in these beliefs, that they're incompatible with each other?

00:17:43.680 I believe Christianity points to the truth.

00:17:46.060 I also think other religions of love point to the same truth.

00:17:49.200 I think of different religious traditions as different languages.

00:17:52.220 So you and I could sit here and debate what to call this cup, and you could call it a cup in English,

00:17:56.820 you'd call it something else in Spanish and French, but we are all talking about the same reality.

00:18:02.040 I believe Jesus Christ reveals that reality to us.

00:18:04.660 But I also think that other traditions reveal that reality in their own ways with their own symbol structures. And I've learned more about my tradition by learning more about Buddhism and Hinduism and Islam and Judaism. And so I see these beautiful faith traditions as circling the same truth about the universe, about the cosmos. And that truth is inherently a mystery.

00:18:26.060 And I think the most destructive thing is when religion becomes an end in and of itself.

00:18:32.180 That's when religion implodes.

00:18:34.020 My pastor always told me growing up that religious symbols are like aspirin.

00:18:37.940 In order to work, they have to dissolve.

00:18:39.760 They point beyond themselves.

00:18:41.300 If you get lost in the symbols, if you get lost in the words,

00:18:44.580 you're missing the reality that we're all trying to describe and talk about.

00:18:49.060 But I say all this in terms of in context of abortion,

00:18:51.460 because before God comes over Mary and we have the incarnation, God asks for Mary's consent,

00:19:02.560 which is remarkable. I mean, go back and read this in Luke. I mean, the angel comes down and

00:19:10.640 asks Mary if this is something she wants to do. And she says, if it is God's will, let it be done.

00:19:16.040 Let it be.

00:19:17.180 Let it happen.

00:19:18.240 So to me, that is an affirmation in one of our most central stories that creation has

00:19:23.580 to be done with consent.

00:19:25.020 You cannot force someone to create.

00:19:26.740 Creation is one of the most sacred acts that we engage in as human beings, but that has

00:19:32.640 to be done with consent.

00:19:33.660 It has to be done with freedom.

00:19:35.620 And to me, that is absolutely consistent with the ministry and life and death of Jesus.

00:19:41.580 And so that's how I come down on that side of the issue. 0.98

00:19:46.040 Yeah, this dude is a snake, absolute snake. 0.86

00:19:49.340 Creation has to be done with consent. 0.99

00:19:51.160 That's insane.

00:19:51.880 I didn't give my consent in order to be made, right?

00:19:54.560 None of us gave our consent before we were born, before we conceived.

00:19:58.560 Adam didn't give his consent in the garden.

00:20:01.180 It's not as though the particles of dust of the ground were crying out and saying,

00:20:05.020 yes, please turn us into a human being.

00:20:08.080 Adam didn't give his consent.

00:20:09.560 Eve didn't give her consent.

00:20:11.420 The angels did not give their consent.

00:20:13.920 All of this is absolute madness.

00:20:16.040 2015 cold and they want their theological liberal talking points back. I thought we were done with

00:20:23.460 this. Honestly, it angers me because it's rank heresy. Rank heresy. Put the politics aside for

00:20:29.780 a moment. This dude, he's not just going to potentially win an election and destroy people

00:20:36.080 politically, economically, nationally, but he is literally leading people eternally to hell.

00:20:43.100 he is theologically twisting the word of God like Satan did in the wilderness. Remember,

00:20:48.480 Satan used scripture, right? Satan didn't come and challenge the authority of the Bible. It is,

00:20:54.640 and this is not an exaggeration at all. You need to see this. I understand that everybody calls

00:20:58.180 everything demonic these days, you know, and then gets paid, you know, by some organization for

00:21:03.760 saying it about Candace Owens. That one's for free. I'll throw that out there. If you didn't

00:21:07.960 see that, you know, cat turd and all these different people coming out, you know, like 0.99

00:21:11.160 Candace is demonic. Candace is demonic all on the same day. And then it came out the receipts that 0.86

00:21:16.140 they were actually paid to post something about her being demonic. So I understand the word

00:21:19.860 demonic has been overused. That's the point that I'm making. Here's the deal though. There is

00:21:25.220 nothing that is more demonic, more satanic. If I could be a little bit more specific, not just some

00:21:30.740 underling hireling, you know, working for Satan, but the top dog, the dark Lord himself. It is

00:21:36.620 truly, in the technical sense of the word, satanic, when somebody is not just trying to dismantle the

00:21:43.460 Bible, right? What Satan did with Jesus when he was led after his baptism by the Spirit into the

00:21:48.940 wilderness to fast for 40 days and 40 nights, and then at his weakest point to be tempted by the

00:21:55.260 tempter, by Satan himself, Satan doesn't come to Jesus and say, hey, look, I know that it's written

00:22:00.300 in the Word of God, X, Y, and Z, but I'm telling you that the Word of God bears no moral authority,

00:22:05.760 and I'm telling you that my word is superior to God's word. I'm going to challenge the authenticity

00:22:13.540 of the word of God, the authority of the word of God, the legitimacy, accuracy of the word of God

00:22:18.160 by inserting my word over and against God's word. That is not the strategy that Satan employed.

00:22:26.100 Satan didn't come and contest the word of God by saying that his word was superior. No, he actually

00:22:31.900 used, right? Satan will go with the grain. He will go with the culture. He will go with, or at least

00:22:39.400 seemingly in terms of the thin veneer of optics and appearances, he will attempt to go with God

00:22:46.940 in order to deceive us and get us ultimately to decide something against God. So Satan doesn't

00:22:52.460 say, well, God's word says blank, but I'm telling you this other thing that's directly contradictory.

00:22:58.540 What is the strategy, the tactic of Satan? We know this. The tactic of Satan, as he's seeking to tempt

00:23:06.020 Jesus in the wilderness, is to use the Word of God verbatim. He's quoting the Scripture.

00:23:14.100 Satan knows the Bible, evangelical, better than you do. He knows the Word of God. He knows the

00:23:21.820 Scripture. He's able to quote it. He has it memorized. But the problem is that Satan is

00:23:27.620 using the Word of God, not directly going against it. That's too obvious. He's subtle. He's subversive.

00:23:34.000 He's using the Word of God verbatim, but taking the Word of God in isolation, right? He's removing

00:23:41.100 and stripping Scripture from its overall proper context in order to make something that God really

00:23:48.060 did in fact say seem as though it's directing us somewhere else. That's the tactic of Satan.

00:23:55.000 That is the tactic of James Tallarico.

00:23:58.020 Let me also say why this is so bad.

00:24:00.700 That clip about abortion is on Joe Rogan's podcast.

00:24:03.220 Joe Rogan, he said this on his podcast himself.

00:24:05.040 I know people personally that have seen him.

00:24:06.860 He is weekly attending a relatively faithful church in Austin, Texas.

00:24:10.540 So he's been exploring religion now at this point for multiple years.

00:24:13.400 He's been going to church, and he's trying to grapple with all these pieces

00:24:16.900 as someone who didn't grow up in the faith.

00:24:18.960 And so he has James on, and James is sitting there using the Bible,

00:24:22.660 manipulating it twisting it to a baby christian or at the very least someone who is in the stages

00:24:27.800 of being drawn by god and subverting and lulling him to sleep so instead of saying joe rogan namely

00:24:33.420 joe rogan the largest and millions of people yeah that listen to it that's why it's so wicked this 0.81

00:24:38.620 is not even just and it would be destructive to teach your family this or to go to your pca church

00:24:43.500 which first of all let's be honest average age is about 70 average attendance about seven like it 0.69

00:24:49.340 He would be evil and wicked and a perversion of God's flock and wicked to do it in that context. 0.76

00:24:54.240 But he's going to a potential baby Christian or someone in the process of being drawn 0.98

00:24:57.940 on one of the biggest platforms there are and twisting and manipulating scripture like that. 0.98

00:25:02.640 It's one of the most high-handed degrees of sin and wickedness I've ever seen.

00:25:06.540 It truly is in every sense of the word.

00:25:09.600 I think it's the most technically accurate word to use.

00:25:13.140 It is satanic.

00:25:14.320 It is following the exact playbook, tactic, strategy of Satan himself.

00:25:21.140 It makes me think of John chapter 8 when Jesus is speaking to the Pharisees who also used

00:25:26.680 the words of Moses.

00:25:28.180 These are God's words.

00:25:29.720 God spoke through the prophet Moses and the Pharisees, Sadducees, religious lawyers and 0.68

00:25:35.280 rulers in Israel at the time, all these Jewish leaders, they're not saying, the scripture 0.55

00:25:41.720 says, you know, blankety, blank, blank, blank.

00:25:44.320 and then misquoting it, you know, directly in a way that is an obvious fashion.

00:25:49.680 Instead, they're using God's words spoken through Moses, stripped of its context, in

00:25:55.320 isolation, in order to pervert God's intended meaning, right?

00:26:00.700 So they actually, they quote God's words, but they convey a separate contradictory meaning.

00:26:07.460 And Jesus says to them, he says, look, you're not children of Abraham.

00:26:12.580 you're not even children of God. Because here's the thing about children. Children always bear

00:26:18.540 a stark resemblance to their father. If you were children of Abraham, then you would do 1.00

00:26:27.340 what your father, alleged father Abraham, did. He saw my day prophetically in a messianic sense

00:26:33.580 looking down the corridors of time because of the messianic prophecies given to Abraham before the

00:26:39.240 incarnation of Jesus, Abraham knew that the Messiah would come, and he looked forward to the promised

00:26:45.440 Messiah, Jesus himself, and welcomed me with gladness. So if you were like Abraham, you would

00:26:53.040 be doing, if you were his children, then if Abraham was your father, you would look like him. You would

00:26:59.080 be welcoming me. If you were like God, then you would be like God, right? If he was actually your

00:27:04.100 father. You'd be doing the things that God does. Instead, you bear a remarkable resemblance to your

00:27:10.020 actual father, who is the devil. He was a murderer from the beginning. Here you are trying to falsely 1.00

00:27:16.840 accuse me so that you can murder me. Spoiler alert, they were successful. The Jews actually 0.97

00:27:21.880 held a mock trial in the middle of the night. A kangaroo court produced false witnesses,

00:27:26.600 handed them over to Pontius Pilate. Pontius Pilate didn't want to kill Jesus. He's still responsible,

00:27:31.720 but he didn't want to kill Jesus. His wife was given a vision. Don't have anything to do with

00:27:37.060 this man. This is an innocent man. Pilate tried to bait the Jews by saying, hey, you know,

00:27:43.320 there's Barabbas here. I'm going to let one prisoner go free. You should choose Jesus. He 0.85

00:27:49.200 hasn't hurt anyone. He's not a threat to society. Barabbas, on the other hand, he's a monster. And

00:27:54.840 yet the Jews start to go around the religious rulers giving bribes and stir up the crowd to 0.97

00:28:00.400 say give us barabbas set him free okay well then what do i do with jesus crucify him crucify him 0.97

00:28:06.940 let his blood be on us and our children right that's what they did they were murderers from 0.89

00:28:12.860 the beginning this is what jesus says to these jewish religious rulers in john chapter 8 he says 0.98

00:28:18.460 you're not children of abraham because you don't look anything like him you're not children of god 0.68

00:28:23.320 because you don't look anything like him you are children of your true father the devil satan 0.93

00:28:28.180 because you bear his resemblance. He was a murderer. Here you are trying to murder me. 1.00

00:28:34.220 When he lies, he speaks his native tongue. He's a liar from the beginning. Here you are bearing 1.00

00:28:39.960 false witness and lying about me. James Tallarico, likewise, is a son of Satan. That's not hyperbole. 0.98

00:28:47.380 That's not an exaggeration. He is a son of Satan because he bears the resemblance of his father. 0.92

00:28:54.800 He is using the Word of God, not directly going against it, but rather going with the

00:28:59.860 grain, using the Word of God, but twisting not its words, not its content in a direct

00:29:06.380 fashion, but its meaning.

00:29:08.880 He's using the Word of God, but twisting its meaning.

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00:31:16.540 factored in. All right. One of the things James Tallarico has been outspoken about is Christian

00:31:21.640 nationalism. He hates this idea of Christian nationalism that has an assertive Christian

00:31:25.680 vision for the state. You heard him talking about all religions kind of really lead home.

00:31:29.720 But what I find so profoundly contradictory as we were preparing for this episode is that James

00:31:35.800 Tallarico is an obstinate Christian nationalist. He believes in a nation. He believes in a people.

00:31:42.080 He believes in government and in politics. He's in it. He literally does. So he believes in a

00:31:46.220 form of a body politic, and he believes Christianity should inform that. At its most basic level,

00:31:52.240 we would say, what is Christian nationalism? Give it to me in a sentence. The civil government

00:31:56.620 should promote true religion. The civil government, the body politic, your federal government, 0.86

00:32:01.080 at some level should promote, should push towards, and orient the people of the Commonwealth towards

00:32:06.400 the true religion. James Tallarico completely believes that. He is completely a Christian

00:32:12.060 nationalist. Here's the difference, though. What angle is he taking? So the true religion, what is

00:32:16.700 his true religion? It is the religion of progressive Christianity. Someone could come to us and say,

00:32:21.980 okay, Joel, you're a minister, and James, you're a minister. What makes your interpretation of

00:32:28.380 the Magnificat, when Mary extols the goodness of God? What makes your interpretation of

00:32:35.020 the Levitical law? Your interpretation of Genesis 1, you're both ministers. Who's to say

00:32:40.160 that his interpretation isn't better than yours? Consensus, and not just consensus in this present

00:32:45.980 hour, but consensus over time. In the very early church, there was a document called the Didache,

00:32:51.440 and the Didache was instructions for early Christian converts. One of the earliest moral

00:32:57.000 instructions that we have was against abortion. The witness all throughout church history,

00:33:02.800 especially in Catholicism for sure, in Protestantism, in the early church, in the early

00:33:07.520 church fathers, not a single one of them. I cannot think, I cannot even fathom, besides

00:33:13.260 heretical sex that were very tiny, ever in Christian history did anyone advocate for 0.97

00:33:19.040 abortion. Transgenderism, this one is so obvious. It is so recent. It's very clearly pushed at the 1.00

00:33:25.500 behest of doctors and corporations that stand to make billions and billions of dollars you know in

00:33:30.300 the 90s there was this huge push for um it was a bulimia and anorexia these are really big body

00:33:35.760 dysmorphic movements and fads that went on and doctors were having girls come in and they're like

00:33:40.080 i'm binge eating but then purging myself and they're they're 95 pounds dripping wet well here's

00:33:45.820 the difference back then doctors said go home and eat a cheeseburger well as it turns out there's

00:33:50.060 not much money to be made from bulimia and anorexia here was the difference with this one

00:33:54.220 kids were coming into the, into the studio. They were coming into the clinic. They're saying,

00:33:59.080 and a lot of it, they'd been informed. Their parents had reinforced this idea. Uh, maybe

00:34:03.380 with young boys, they'd watched a lot of pornography and they're saying, doctor,

00:34:06.180 I'm a different gender. Well, what's the difference between anorexia and transgenderism?

00:34:10.340 Oh, one of them stands to make billions and billions of dollars that gender clinics. 0.96

00:34:14.100 Basically you ensure a customer for life, a customer for surgery, a customer for hormones, 1.00

00:34:18.580 a customer for follow on care, a customer Lord knows for mental health. Uh, you have a customer

00:34:22.860 for life so he's pushing transgenderism when he spoke out that's from the texas house floor

00:34:27.460 he was speaking out against bill house bill 25 house bill 25 was getting transgender men

00:34:33.660 out of women's sports so he's there using the bible to argue against transgender restrictions

00:34:39.320 on transgender men participating in sports and and what is he pushing in favor of something that

00:34:44.200 is so novel it basically didn't exist 15 minutes ago so why between the two okay we have a minister

00:34:49.360 over here who says abortion and transgenderism are barred by god's word and god's law here he

00:34:54.020 is saying they're not well one of these has the entire corpus of the christian faith behind him

00:34:59.620 that's right the other one isn't even true to his own presbyterian seminary's founding it's insane

00:35:05.200 right yeah yeah you it's you would think it's one thing for a leftist to to say hey i think

00:35:10.500 christianity is patriarchal you know and this is like historically first wave feminism it's a

00:35:14.500 rejection of Christianity, the historic Christianity, because they recognize, yes,

00:35:18.520 it's patriarchal, and yes, it's going to oppose abortion, so on and so forth, on all of these

00:35:24.940 issues. And they recognize that, and you'll hear a lot of modern leftists be able to say,

00:35:29.880 they'll say, yeah, I just, I'm not a Christian, I'm not spiritual, I don't, I believe these things

00:35:34.740 are right on my own volition. I'm God, right? Or the state's God, whatever the case is.

00:35:39.620 But it's another thing, and this is why you have to believe it's intended deceit,

00:35:42.660 for someone to come actually, and it's very convenient to be able to say, hey, I'm actually

00:35:47.360 a Christian. And it just so happens that Christianity agrees with all of our modern

00:35:53.040 liberal sensibilities. And so this is why, going back to the point of Christian nationalism,

00:35:59.380 it really is a form, the gayest form of Christian nationalism, which is, yes, Christianity informs 0.81

00:36:05.340 my worldview, my worldview's right, my worldview's good, and the government should use these Christian 0.79

00:36:10.460 arguments or use the christian faith to inform what they do that's right and notice he's on the

00:36:14.460 house floor quoting scripture everybody is losing their mind christian nationalism you know this is

00:36:19.040 extreme this is radical radical right this is a bunch of fashion we need separation of church

00:36:24.540 and separation of this which never exists in the constitution right yeah right yeah what they're

00:36:29.480 really advocating is a separation of christ and state but notice notice that uh what what james

00:36:35.100 tallarico is doing is exactly what we're doing he's saying no no i'm going to sit here on the

00:36:39.660 house floor in texas and i'm going to quote scripture and tell you why from scripture's

00:36:46.300 authority you should be doing the things that i'm telling you you should do it's exactly the same

00:36:52.200 it is christian nationalism it's just gay christian right and to round out west's point it's 0.52

00:36:57.840 it's it's more of he knows better he knows he knows he's making an argument about god being

00:37:03.120 non-binary and using plural pronouns to justify transgenderism that that is an argument that no

00:37:09.120 one has ever made. Ever. Ever made before him. I've never heard that abortion one either from

00:37:13.780 Mary, that the angel required of Mary consent. No scholar, no theologian, no pastor, I've ever

00:37:18.460 heard make that point either. And he knows that. He knows that. I mean, at minimum, he's dug into

00:37:23.740 the reformed tradition. He's dug into theology proper. And he knows God is sovereign. He knows

00:37:30.000 this is the historic Christian tradition. And he's making a deliberate decision for political

00:37:35.500 reasons, and really what he's doing, he's co-opting Christianity for his own whimsical desire for

00:37:45.000 power, which is ironically exactly what he accuses the right-wing Christian nationalists of doing,

00:37:49.800 but he's actually doing it. So the Christian nationalists say, no, yes, we want power. Power

00:37:54.340 is an amoral thing that we want to grab hold of for the glory of God and for the good of his people,

00:38:00.060 But we want to be gracious, and we want to do it in a way that God has commanded us to do it.

00:38:05.880 We want to wield power righteously.

00:38:07.420 Righteously, exactly.

00:38:07.740 You have to understand, guys, this whole, you know, oh, power, you know, that's bad. 0.92

00:38:12.780 And everybody using the Lord of the Rings analogy, it's, for one, shut up, nerd, right? 0.96

00:38:18.300 Like, go touch some grass.

00:38:20.320 But two, you're using the analogy incorrectly.

00:38:24.240 The idea, like, well, power represents the ring, you know?

00:38:27.220 and the whole point of Tolkien is to say that, you know, the ring corrupts and blah, blah, blah,

00:38:31.160 blah, blah. No, look, power is not a virtue. It's not a vice. It's neither. Power is not inherently

00:38:36.340 evil, nor is it inherently good. Not a virtue, not a vice, but a tool. The question is who's

00:38:42.760 wielding power? If it's the righteous using power, even the Old Testament speaks of this.

00:38:48.660 When the righteous come to places of authority, the people rejoice. When the wicked steps into

00:38:53.960 power, the people groan, right? So it's not power being inherently good or power being inherently

00:38:58.760 bad. It's power, not it being amoral, like Antonio just said, neither a virtue nor a vice, but a

00:39:05.860 tool. And the question is who wields it? Someone can have a hammer. Hammers aren't bad. Hammers,

00:39:10.600 I think you can make an argument that they're generally good. But the question is who's

00:39:15.440 wielding the hammer and what are they doing with it? Use a hammer to build a house. Great. Use a

00:39:19.840 hammer to bash in someone's skull? Bad, right? The question is, what are you doing with it? In the 1.00

00:39:25.540 case of Lord of the Rings, the ring was made by Sauron, right? So in that case, the ring of power

00:39:32.040 within the Lord of the Rings trilogy, which is fantasy, guys, remember, it's a fantasy fictional

00:39:37.760 story. But in that case, the ring itself was inherently evil because it was made by an evil

00:39:44.360 person for evil ends. Okay. That's why they couldn't use the ring. But if you want to use

00:39:50.240 that analogy, there were a ton of other rings that were also made that had power and that could be

00:39:56.180 used positively or negatively. So gaining power is not right inherently or wrong inherently. The

00:40:05.060 question is who's going to wield it. But here's the deal. Power abhors a vacuum. Someone, not

00:40:11.380 whether but which not whether but which someone will wield power so the question is who's it 0.78

00:40:17.860 going to be is it going to be gay christian nationalism or is it going to be true christian

00:40:23.420 nationalism or in the case of james tallarico to be a little bit more technically accurate

00:40:27.980 i don't think he's much of a nationalist because he's for infinity immigration from every third 0.90

00:40:32.660 world hellhole you could possibly imagine so you have historic christian nationalism or gay 0.81

00:40:39.120 Christian globalism. Those are your choices. Historic Christian nationalism or gay Christian 0.99

00:40:45.440 globalism. But notice that both of them claim to be Christian. Both of them make appeals to 0.95

00:40:52.420 authority, Christian authority, biblical authority. So this idea of, well, I don't want historic

00:40:57.900 Christian nationalism because that's scary. Well, over here, you got someone making Christian 0.99

00:41:02.820 claims all the same. It's going to happen one way or the other. So you're going to have someone 0.93

00:41:06.960 quoting the Bible on the house floor in Texas to say, well, because of the Bible, you should chop 1.00

00:41:12.880 off the genitals of your young 12-year-old boy. Or you're going to have someone also quoting the 0.99

00:41:18.500 Bible, but quoting the Bible rightly and using biblical truth, biblical law for the flourishing

00:41:25.120 of God's people. Which one are you going to choose? The way I see it, demographically,

00:41:30.960 you'll either have a type of Muslim and Hindu nationalism. You're going to have nationalism,

00:41:34.560 and it's going to be suffused with religion. 0.62

00:41:36.960 So if we continue to allow unchecked immigration,

00:41:39.240 that would promote some type of third world nationalism. 0.96

00:41:42.460 So you could have that. 0.94

00:41:43.560 The other option is this gay Christian nationalism. 0.87

00:41:47.120 You could even kind of call it like Jewish nationalism. 0.95

00:41:49.620 It's very Talmudic in the way it picks apart and isolates and extracts. 0.53

00:41:53.600 He quotes the Bible, but when the Bible fails to push forward

00:41:56.900 the progressive talking points that he's wanting to push forward,

00:41:59.560 then where does he go?

00:42:01.160 The Torah. 0.86

00:42:01.800 Other religions, the Torah, the Masoretic text. 0.90

00:42:04.360 Exactly. So you're going to have third world nationalism, big brown gross statutes. You've 0.83

00:42:11.300 got that. You've got gay Christian nationalism, Jewish nationalism, and Christian nationalism. 0.81

00:42:16.460 You're not going to, Texas is 4% atheist, 5% agnostic. You're not going to have an 80% 0.69

00:42:22.420 atheist Texics. Well, sort of demographics, you're also not going to have an 80% Muslim Texas. So

00:42:28.500 it's going to be Christian unless you import a bunch of people. But if you cut that off, 1.00

00:42:32.500 there's two competing visions. Both of them use the Bible. Both of them use religion. Both of them

00:42:37.000 claim the name of Christianity. And your only choice you're left with, you may not like the 0.96

00:42:40.820 choices. You know, lots of Presbyterians hardest hit. You may not like the choices, but them's

00:42:45.240 the choices. And you should just come out and say, well, faced with these two, even my hangups I

00:42:49.520 might have with this, this is a heck of a lot better than this satanic perversion of scripture

00:42:54.320 I see over here. So come out, be a man and be honest and say, yeah, we're probably going to

00:42:58.800 have Christian nationalism one way or the other. And I would prefer that one, even for the things, 0.95

00:43:03.280 even withstanding all the things I don't like about it. Just stand on principle.

00:43:07.820 Amen. All right. So James Tallarico, vote no. Okay. We have some super chats that I want to

00:43:13.740 get to. Are there any final points that Antonio or Wes? Well, I was just going to say, and we've

00:43:18.780 talked about this before on the show, but politics is playbooks. And we talked about this with other

00:43:23.840 candidates. It goes both ways in the left and the right. And this is why Christians should be

00:43:28.780 so disgusted and just absolutely spit this out um these kinds of candidates and these talking

00:43:34.320 points because uh and really the decision becomes historic christianity or my modern liberal

00:43:39.520 sensibilities and christians have to make the right choice here otherwise what you're going to find is

00:43:44.080 well teller rico potentially will win here in texas but in georgia all throughout the bible

00:43:49.760 belt in mississippi and alabama these kinds of candidates are going to be cropping up and

00:43:54.720 Everyone's going to be faced with the same sort of dilemma, if you will, testing the Christian, historic Christian faith against this, as you said, this gay Christian globalism, Jewish globalism. 0.55

00:44:07.740 And so it's going to be really important. 0.86

00:44:10.080 I mean, Texas has historically always been kind of a flagship state for trying new candidates out, seeing what works, and then trying to export that.

00:44:17.260 The DNC is going to look at Telerico and say, oh, that might work.

00:44:20.060 Let's run candidates like this.

00:44:22.140 And I think that will happen, actually.

00:44:24.720 I think you're going to see more of these candidates pop up because atheism is dead.

00:44:31.420 Agnosticism is dead.

00:44:32.360 No one believes in that anymore, particularly the younger generations.

00:44:35.400 That was a 2000s, maybe early 2010 phase, right?

00:44:40.880 You're going to have religious politics.

00:44:42.940 It's going to be Islamic religious politics or Jewish religious politics. 0.61

00:44:47.520 Or if we continue to get infinity H1 visas from India, especially here in Texas, 0.69

00:44:53.340 then it's going to be Hindu religious politics, you know, or it's going to be Christian religious

00:44:57.480 politics, two subsets underneath that category. It's going to be progressive, fake Christian,

00:45:03.700 or it's going to be traditional, historic, true Christian. But you're going to get religion in 0.91

00:45:09.200 politics because the world is a religious place. People are inherently religious. That's another

00:45:15.240 one of those scenarios. It's not whether but which. It's not whether people are religious.

00:45:20.000 It's simply which religion they're going to adhere to.

00:45:23.000 The closest that we ever got to being anti-religious would be in the West, post-Christian era.

00:45:29.200 I'm thinking of the 1970s, 80s, 90s.

00:45:32.620 That was kind of the high watermark of kind of a secular agnosticism or atheism.

00:45:39.520 You know, the reigning champ just being, you know, I don't believe in God, I believe in science.

00:45:43.760 Okay, well, 2020 kind of ruined that record for the science.

00:45:48.760 To speed away, to slow the spread.

00:45:50.240 Yeah, the science TM, right?

00:45:52.020 The science bros, hardest hit, 2020. 0.89

00:45:55.060 Now the world has returned to religion.

00:45:58.400 The only question is which version will they actually adhere to?

00:46:02.820 Let me add one more data point too on James Tallarico.

00:46:05.300 One of the marks of wicked men is a lack of natural affection.

00:46:08.520 Let me read some tweets here from the 2020s to 2021.

00:46:11.700 James Tallarico said,

00:46:12.520 Black Americans in a church, he's referencing a section of mass shootings, 0.96

00:46:16.040 Mexican-Americans in a store, Asian-Americans in a spa. 1.00

00:46:19.560 Radicalized white men are the greatest domestic terror threat in our country. 0.99

00:46:24.020 In 2020, September, he tweeted, 1.00

00:46:26.000 White skin gives me and every white American immunity from the virus,

00:46:29.680 but we spread it wherever we go, through our words, our actions, and our systems. 0.85

00:46:33.480 We don't have to be showing symptoms like a white hood or a Confederate flag to be contagious.

00:46:38.120 And he's speaking in that sense kind of about racism.

00:46:40.580 Last one, he says,

00:46:41.620 There but for the grace of God go I, referencing a radicalized young man,

00:46:45.620 as a white man i'm susceptible to the same radicalization thankfully i was exposed to

00:46:49.780 diversity at a young age and explicitly taught the values of equality inclusion and justice but not

00:46:55.460 every young white boy is so lucky he hates your children he hates the unborn and he also hates 0.99

00:47:01.380 he hates he hates white people he hates men he hates um conservative christians uh he hates 1.00

00:47:08.820 nationalism. This is a hateful person. I'm so sick of the tolerance and equity and inclusion 1.00

00:47:16.020 because it's such a lie. But you remember the He Gets Us ad heretical Christian group that played 0.98

00:47:24.520 it during the Super Bowl. And it's Jesus washing the feet of all these different people. You've

00:47:29.480 got a woman who just came out of an abortion clinic. You've got an immigrant from some foreign 1.00

00:47:36.960 country you've got uh a gay man you know it's like all all the marginalized you know um you know

00:47:44.680 um oppression status you know people that you could possibly imagine um first um it's about

00:47:52.240 christ it's not about us right it's about his majesty his glory um but secondly even going that

00:47:59.600 angle uh which this ad tried to accomplish this inclusive inclusivism you know all this kind of

00:48:05.480 stuff that Jesus, you know, he cares for the marginalized, even on its face, which is the

00:48:10.620 wrong angle to take. It's man-centered rather than being God-centered. But even if you go the

00:48:15.460 man-centered avenue, notice that even then it's actually inauthentic, right? It's like Jesus cares

00:48:21.980 for all the marginalized people in society. None of those people are actually marginalized in our

00:48:26.540 society. If you really want to actually convey that Jesus cares for the person that people hate,

00:48:32.640 than have him washing the feet of a Nazi. Have him washing the feet of a Klan member. Have him 0.80

00:48:39.120 washing the feet of somebody who's actually hated in society. James Tallarico, right? He loves the

00:48:45.300 foreigner. He loves the immigrant. He loves the single mom. He loves the gay men. He loves the

00:48:50.740 transgender child. He loves, you know who he doesn't love? Heterosexual white men who are 1.00

00:48:58.100 historically Christian and hold any political or cultural view before 1960. He hates them. 0.99

00:49:07.240 He will kill you, destroy you, exile you, do anything he can to ruin your life, to ruin your 1.00

00:49:13.760 wife's life, to ruin your children's life. He wants you to be replaced, eradicated, jobless, 1.00

00:49:20.740 your children hungry. This is not a tolerant person. And that's the, again, it's the same 0.98

00:49:27.280 theme when it comes to tolerance it's the same kind of deal it's it's not whether but which um

00:49:33.180 the person who who makes his whole platform um a platform of tolerance is still at the end of the

00:49:40.480 day an intolerant person he's just refusing to tolerate a different group that's the only

00:49:46.480 difference that's the only james tallarico is an intolerant impatient uh hateful person

00:49:55.160 the only question is who which group does he hate which group does he refuse to tolerate

00:50:01.580 and the answer is you anyone who looks at all resembles at all the founders of this country

00:50:10.440 you are the person you represent the family the group that he will refuse to tolerate okay we've

00:50:18.980 got a couple of super chats that have come in today. The first one is from Jural D7R6U. Now

00:50:27.400 it says 500, but there's a little symbol in front of the 500. It's not a dollar sign. This is 500,

00:50:35.200 I believe, rupees. And if we do the exchange properly, 500 rupees coming from India, I think

00:50:41.300 this means we owe him $5. I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure that the current-

00:50:45.600 only possible negative super check the current exchange rate with india i believe is uh that

00:50:51.520 indian money is in the negatives and so i i think that uh basically nathan uh if you can go ahead and

00:50:58.200 um and write a check i think we actually have to send him money now so i think that's the way it

00:51:03.320 works anyway so not a great start with that but his message i think is really insightful he said

00:51:07.780 um is mdiv right that's a masters of divinity at nsa that's a school new saint andrews a good idea

00:51:14.680 I know how Moscow, that's where it's located, the city, treat students who agree with guys like NXR.

00:51:21.900 That's us, New Christian Right Studios.

00:51:25.280 But I plan to hide my power levels.

00:51:27.680 I think that that could be wise depending how you feel the Lord calling you.

00:51:31.500 Some people just need to not hide their power levels and need to just be courageous and honest.

00:51:36.760 But depending what vocation you're going in and what calling you think the Lord has given you,

00:51:41.100 it may be wise for a time to not air everything out publicly, but to play the game a little bit

00:51:47.680 and get into seats of power and then wield that power righteously. So he says, I plan to hide my

00:51:53.060 power levels as I'm seeking an MDiv, Masters of Divinity, from this school, NSA. But he says,

00:52:00.220 I'm hoping that this particular school and the way that they treat guys who like NXR,

00:52:05.640 that they repent. I'm going to be 40 years old soon, but I aspire to teach in a seminary. So he

00:52:13.240 needs to get his credentials. So he's asking, you know, do I go to this school that is not

00:52:19.080 particularly fond of you guys and others like you and seek to hide my power levels, get the degree

00:52:26.480 so that I can fulfill the vocation that I think the Lord is calling me to, which is to be a

00:52:31.860 seminary prof. What do you guys think? Irrespective of your experience at NSA, New St. Andrews,

00:52:38.860 specifically Greyfriars is where the Masters in Divinity program is. You also have to think about

00:52:42.720 how that school will look on your resume. Just objectively as a fact, Moscow has always been

00:52:46.940 kind of doing their own thing outside of the Presbyterian world. Doug Wilson started his

00:52:50.320 own denomination, the CREC. Their program is not related, of course, to the PCA or the PCUSA,

00:52:55.960 of course, APARC, OPC. It's not related to any of those. So it's kind of on an island in and of

00:53:03.180 itself. So regardless of your experience there, I'm just going to be honest, if I look ahead to

00:53:07.000 the future, Doug Wilson will pass in 5, 10, 15 years. And it's not clear who's the clear successor

00:53:13.320 in that program. And so you could have this degree, you could have this program, but in and of itself,

00:53:18.320 what it carries with it and the stigma and everything that's attached to it, I'm just not

00:53:22.400 sure if in 10 years it will get you very far it might come with a lot of the negatives like oh

00:53:26.080 you went to school there oh you agree with the wilson's program but none of the positives of a

00:53:30.540 denomination of an accreditation path of a seminary where you could actually teach at and so

00:53:36.000 joel you could certainly speak to i think the experience in the school of people that support

00:53:39.980 our work but i'd say even outside of it i just don't know how that degree is going to be received

00:53:44.340 and looked at for the rest of your life right i think that that's wise i think when it comes to

00:53:48.600 the strategy of temporarily it needs to be temporary at a certain point you're going to

00:53:53.500 have to show your colors at a certain point you're going to have to be courageous you're not allowed

00:53:58.540 to just hide your power levels forever right it's like oh well we're um we're saving up our cultural

00:54:05.360 capital to okay it's 2020 playing the long game churches are locked down and people are stuck in

00:54:10.440 their houses like are you going to spend your cultural cap no that's not it okay like the

00:54:14.580 cities are on fire, you know, the mostly peaceful, you know, riots with George Floyd. Are you going

00:54:18.680 to finally cash in, you know, your cultural capital? No, not yet. Like some guys, some

00:54:23.860 Christians have been saving their cultural capital through every major event when they should have 0.86

00:54:30.040 used it and they're sitting on cultural capital. But at the end of the day, it's going to be too 1.00

00:54:34.620 late. They never exercise courage. So number one, you are going to have to exercise courage

00:54:40.640 eventually. So make that decision now. I think it's permissible for a time temporarily to conserve

00:54:47.680 your cultural capital, hide your power levels, but eventually you're going to need to be courageous.

00:54:53.160 The second thing that I would say is that if that's your strategy of temporarily hiding your

00:54:58.300 power levels so that you can get the credentials, so that you can seek a seminary professor position

00:55:02.800 and get tenured and all those kinds of things, if that's the strategy, then you should probably

00:55:08.360 hide your power levels and go to a seminary that has more credentials, right? One that, you know,

00:55:14.500 would also disagree with NXR and have problems with us. But if you're going to go the covert

00:55:19.400 route temporarily in order to get the credentials to do the thing that you feel God calling you to

00:55:24.240 do, then be covert somewhere that, you know, the degree that you would garner would be more

00:55:32.560 recognized right and open more doors that would be my opinion let's skip to the next one i think

00:55:38.740 we could just say too there have been people and they've said it publicly so we're not revealing

00:55:41.660 anything said in private they're at the program and they feel actively hunted down right for

00:55:46.460 supporting ogden for supporting us and so men have gone they've gone with the intention i'm

00:55:50.640 gonna get my head down i'm gonna get this degree i'm gonna work hard i'm gonna be a good student

00:55:53.760 and at least one of them has come out and said i've been asked to leave the program even as

00:55:57.540 careful as I was specifically for my support. Yep. All right. This one comes actually from

00:56:02.520 Rumble. This is JNR Doyle 86. He gave us a Rumble super chat. We appreciate that. He said,

00:56:10.300 are there any Protestant churches that you can suggest I look into joining in Georgia?

00:56:14.900 I've had a very hard time finding any non-liberal churches here, unfortunately. I'm not super

00:56:21.040 familiar. I just asked my network. We'll come back to this question if anyone can give me

00:56:23.920 recommendation okay all right cool we'll see uh next one is kenton little he's a great guy great

00:56:29.020 supporter of the show we appreciate kenton uh he said um two things number one if you're on x on

00:56:36.100 twitter then you gotta go vote for nxr on the dmw poll dmw deadman walking uh so deadman walking

00:56:44.640 they're doing a poll right now podcast bracket you know which one is the best and uh we are in the

00:56:50.480 running currently is what it looks like. So go ahead and vote for NXR. And then the second thing

00:56:55.960 he wanted to say is, he said, I heard that Tallarico's favorite drink is eggnog. So I'm

00:57:04.700 going to take that to mean that Kenton Little is an eggnog hater, and he's trying to hang like

00:57:12.040 an albatross around the neck of eggnog, James Tallarico. And your mystical magic tricks and

00:57:19.300 and pure hatred of eggnog will not be successful on this show. So thank you, Kenton. Nice try.

00:57:25.040 I see your strategy and we're not falling for it. Next one is Brown Anglo-Saxon. That's an 1.00

00:57:31.440 interesting name, but he's also a supporter of the show and has been phenomenal. We appreciate

00:57:36.060 you. He said, I keep failing my police exams because of my cultural views. So this is back

00:57:47.440 to, you know, see point A, hiding your power levels, might want to keep those a little close

00:57:51.720 to the chest. So I'm failing my police exams because of my cultural views. Should I reel back

00:57:58.380 on the truth to get considered? Wise or manipulative? I think it's wise. We're called to be

00:58:05.700 as innocent as doves, right? So we can't blatantly lie. We can't be compromised, but we are,

00:58:13.940 it is permissible to be shrewd as vipers so innocent as doves but wise as serpents or shrewd

00:58:20.480 as vipers it's the same kind of thing if somebody's hiding their power levels over the course of their

00:58:25.300 entire life that's not called that's not wisdom that's cowardice wisdom can often be used as a

00:58:32.460 euphemism for cowardice and one of the ways of determining whether or not it's truly wisdom or

00:58:38.420 cowardice is asking yourself how long am i going to do this how long am i going to be covert

00:58:43.800 How long am I going to be shrewd?

00:58:46.200 How long am I going to hide my power levels?

00:58:48.640 But if it's temporary, it's for a season, in order to gain credentials, in order to

00:58:54.780 fill the role that you believe God's calling you to, then I believe it's permissible.

00:58:59.160 All right?

00:58:59.480 So that is our Super Chats for the day.

00:59:01.420 Did we hear back on JNR Doyle?

00:59:04.140 So Georgia is a big state, as it turns out.

00:59:07.140 So right back in on Monday, tell us kind of what's your denomination, if you're looking

00:59:10.280 for Presbyterian, where you are in the area.

00:59:12.480 And then are you just kind of undercover-based, hiding your power levels, or like, I want

00:59:16.320 somewhere that'll take me as I am?

00:59:18.320 So a little bit more context, but as much as possible, we like to direct people to good,

00:59:22.200 faithful, biblical churches in their area.

00:59:23.720 Amen.

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The NXR Podcast - March 06, 2026

NXR Livestream - James Talarico： Son of the Devil

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