The NXR Podcast - THE FRIDAY SPECIAL - Witches, Necromancy & “Familiar Spirits”

00:00:00.000 In the biblical narrative found in 1 Samuel 28, King Saul, facing imminent battle and

00:00:06.080 abandoned by God, sought guidance from a medium, commonly referred to as the Witch of Endor.

00:00:12.780 Desperate, Saul disguised himself and consulted her to summon the dead prophet Samuel for

00:00:18.440 counsel.

00:00:19.980 Despite initial hesitation, the medium successfully brought forth Samuel's spirit, startling

00:00:25.660 both herself and Saul.

00:00:26.840 Samuel, in a prophetic message, foretold Saul's impending defeat in battle and his death

00:00:33.840 Stories like this one permeate the annals of human history

00:00:37.980 From the necromantic mediumship of the Witch of Endor

00:00:41.900 To the prototypical witch covens of colonial North America

00:00:45.280 To the shamanistic practices of tribal witches deep in the jungles of Africa and beyond

00:00:50.960 But what is witchcraft?

00:00:54.040 Why do the scriptures so strenuously forbid it?

00:00:56.840 Why are those who practice it guilty of a capital offense?

00:01:00.360 Join us in this episode as we discuss witches. 0.83

00:01:06.500 Witches get stitches. Here we are.

00:01:08.160 Indeed. Amen.

00:01:09.200 Couldn't have said it better myself, Joel.

00:01:10.740 First, I think it's definitely important to say a bunch of witches today are hacks and it was just a show.

00:01:17.720 True. 1.00

00:01:18.160 But at the same time, if that's all you come away thinking, then you are being a fool. 0.99

00:01:23.780 Because witches are also real. 0.98

00:01:25.140 Yeah, because the scriptures don't forbid something

00:01:27.460 and put you to death for it if it's just all fake.

00:01:30.960 Right, right. 0.99

00:01:31.920 It's not just a charlatan,

00:01:33.780 but there actually is a demonic power there.

00:01:35.640 We can talk about Pharaoh and, you know,

00:01:37.500 in Egypt and his magi and all these different things.

00:01:40.960 But another thing that just from the outset,

00:01:43.220 we've mentioned this in another episode,

00:01:44.960 but I do think we need to talk about what witches are,

00:01:47.640 talk about familiar spirits, all those things.

00:01:49.280 But we also need to talk about witches are real.

00:01:52.340 and I think that they're on the rise.

00:01:56.060 And there's some legitimate theological reasons for that.

00:02:00.700 Joel, if you go right now,

00:02:02.820 and we keep an eye on this just because it's our world.

00:02:05.780 If you go to the podcast charts on Apple Podcasts

00:02:09.320 and you go to the religion and spirituality category,

00:02:11.800 which Honey Cosmos podcast that we do is on that chart

00:02:15.240 and we'd like to see how we do it.

00:02:17.020 How's the episode doing?

00:02:19.140 Have we got another stats?

00:02:20.240 Our peak is number eight.

00:02:22.620 Are we beating out the witches?

00:02:23.900 Number seven.

00:02:24.440 Yeah.

00:02:24.720 Number seven.

00:02:25.340 I tell you what,

00:02:26.060 we've many times,

00:02:27.300 we will be battling,

00:02:28.980 vying neck and neck with podcasts

00:02:30.660 that are modern witchcraft,

00:02:33.180 that are, 0.73

00:02:33.880 and I mean straightforward,

00:02:35.280 join our coven.

00:02:36.580 We're going to teach you how to cast spells.

00:02:38.440 We're going to teach you how to curse people.

00:02:40.120 We're going to teach you how to manipulate 0.91

00:02:41.980 the spiritual forces of the world

00:02:43.780 and the spirit world

00:02:44.660 to bless your family.

00:02:46.480 And it largely, 1.00

00:02:49.360 young ladies who are also happen to be raging feminists yeah and are voting for joe biden 0.99

00:02:57.000 it is a massive category to get on that chart we know because we can see our download statistics

00:03:04.460 that means that tens of thousands of people are listening to each episode of these witch podcasts

00:03:11.620 right to get them that high on the chart it's i mean so you're right and i think you were going

00:03:15.800 to say some theological the reason why i think it's on the right there's a number of reasons but

00:03:18.740 One is because secular humanism and just Darwinism, materialism, post-modernity, modernity, everything that the Enlightenment gave us.

00:03:27.320 The Enlightenment was not good, by the way.

00:03:28.620 Dark Ages, the thing, you know, because the victors get to write the history books.

00:03:32.220 Amazing.

00:03:32.460 So the Dark Ages, great.

00:03:34.360 In objective terms, great. 0.99

00:03:36.640 The Enlightenment, absolute crap. 1.00

00:03:39.920 Terrible. 1.00

00:03:40.660 An absolute rebellion and turning away from God.

00:03:43.340 And we have been just further progressively rebelling more and more ever since.

00:03:46.560 However, something significant is starting to change.

00:03:49.860 And the thing that's starting to change is that we're starting to realize,

00:03:53.580 you know, well, why don't we classical liberalism even harder?

00:03:56.000 Well, it's not going to work, you know, our sacred democracy.

00:03:59.600 And then what does democracy actually give you?

00:04:02.140 Well, it gives you an oligarchy because the more we've developed from a republic to a raw democracy,

00:04:08.540 which the founders never intended, but that's what I think classical liberalism sadly devolves into.

00:04:13.580 What it does is it doesn't make all the people and their voice equal.

00:04:16.220 What it does is it gives you, where now we have polls that have said, statistically speaking, that Taylor Swift will influence 20% of the national vote.

00:04:27.320 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:27.980 One person.

00:04:28.740 Because that's what a raw democracy doesn't make you everyone's equal.

00:04:32.040 It ascends those who have the most money or the most influence or the biggest voice or that, and they become oligarchs.

00:04:37.500 So my point is the enlightenment and all these kinds of things, the rejection of God's magical world and the embrace of not true reason, but a reason that suppresses God's truth. 0.84

00:04:50.540 What that has given us is we've been running off the fumes of the Christian worldview of a prior Christendom.

00:04:58.620 And what Jesus does is he kicks out demons.

00:05:01.340 So even when Jesus comes in his earthly ministry 2,000 years ago to Israel, 0.99

00:05:06.540 Israel is, because of their faithlessness, 0.97

00:05:09.500 Israel is overrun with demons to the point just as bad 0.99

00:05:12.820 as the other demonic nations that surrounded them 0.95

00:05:14.980 that they were previously at war with, if not worse. 0.98

00:05:17.840 They've got more demons than Moab and more demons than Egypt 0.89

00:05:22.600 and more demons than Babylon. 0.68

00:05:24.420 I mean, everywhere Jesus goes,

00:05:26.100 and that's not necessarily a descriptor of the whole world at all times. 0.98

00:05:31.180 But in Israel at that time, yeah, there's a demon under every rock because the generation 0.75

00:05:36.880 of Israelites that Jesus came to was uniquely demonic, uniquely rebellious against Christ. 0.79

00:05:44.220 And Christ just starts kicking out all the demons. And then this great Christian gospel 0.68

00:05:50.440 hope goes throughout the world. And for 2000 years, the leaven has been working through

00:05:55.360 the batch of dough, the mustard seed has been growing into a great tree. And then just God's

00:06:00.580 sovereignty alone and his kindness and mercy, he has been pleased to work in the leaven of the

00:06:06.300 gospel deeply within the West. And the West has flourished for, you know, at least 500 years,

00:06:13.160 arguably a thousand years, if we want to talk about Alfred, arguably 1500 years, if we're going

00:06:17.080 to go to Constantine, a very long time, a lot of dough working there. A lot of, you know, leaven

00:06:21.720 working through the dough in a positive way and giving us medicine and giving us this and giving

00:06:25.960 as that and all these different innovations and inventions. And, and ultimately, essentially what

00:06:30.640 I'm getting at is, and casting out all the demons. And the demons are fleeing. There's not a whole

00:06:34.960 lot of demons in Europe because of at least, at least 200 years ago because of the work of Christ

00:06:41.880 or in America, a hundred years ago in the 1950s, not, not as many demons, but they seem to be on

00:06:48.040 the rise. And the reason is one, one small, simple reason. Jesus says, when you cast out a demon,

00:06:53.020 the man, the person that it was inhabiting is like a house and that it's swept clean and put

00:07:00.180 in order and now empty. But if it's not filled with something else, namely devotion to Christ,

00:07:05.660 then what will happen is that that demon will go temporarily through arid, waterless spaces,

00:07:11.100 but eventually he'll come back. And if the house is just swept clean and put in order,

00:07:14.800 but it's not filled, then he'll come back and he'll come back with seven other demonic friends,

00:07:19.660 worse than himself, so that the house, the state,

00:07:23.360 the latter state of the man will be worse than the former.

00:07:25.660 And there's something to be said

00:07:27.000 for not just the demons coming back,

00:07:29.020 more demons coming back, but swept clean and put in order.

00:07:32.100 What has Christendom done in the West?

00:07:34.860 If the demons come back,

00:07:36.060 demons would now be coming back with nukes.

00:07:38.960 Hey, by the way, we just answered a question

00:07:41.400 that we asked in the last episode,

00:07:45.660 are they worse?

00:07:46.740 Are there gradations?

00:07:47.820 Yeah.

00:07:48.340 Oh yeah, clearly.

00:07:48.940 Exactly. So you're talking about more demons, so a worse demonic state than paganism before Christendom entered, but also with a swept clean in order situation because of what Christendom has given us. 0.59

00:08:02.380 So all this technological advances like demons and nukes, not a great combo.

00:08:06.640 So my whole point is to say, as we abandoned paganism because of Christ, Christendom, and the demons were kicked out, but then we said, you know what?

00:08:15.680 We don't really need Christ.

00:08:17.020 We don't want the demons either,

00:08:18.160 but we don't want,

00:08:18.780 we just want an empty,

00:08:19.840 swept and put in order house.

00:08:21.340 Yeah.

00:08:21.820 In comes classical liberalism,

00:08:23.580 in comes secular humanism. 0.99

00:08:25.860 Trash world. 1.00

00:08:26.460 Right, trash world. 0.99

00:08:27.460 And then what we're realizing is, 0.85

00:08:29.180 well, the empty house doesn't work.

00:08:30.520 It's gotta be filled with someone.

00:08:32.320 And now some are turning back to Christ,

00:08:35.160 but then others are joining covens.

00:08:37.100 Yeah.

00:08:37.400 They're joining witch covens. 0.98

00:08:38.520 They're going to the old gods. 1.00

00:08:39.980 They're going back to paganism. 0.76

00:08:41.180 There's rising paganism.

00:08:42.300 And the thing is,

00:08:43.420 when we think about witches a lot of the time,

00:08:45.340 and I know Ben particular, I think can get us into some of this. When we think about witches,

00:08:49.480 the first thing we think about is the, is the hat and the broom, a very European kind of phenomenon.

00:08:55.540 But witchcraft itself is something that you see not only everywhere, but it's a tendon. It's a,

00:09:01.780 it's a key constituent component of all of these demonic false religions and paganism. 0.94

00:09:06.940 So it's not just that you have like witches in colonial America and that was the only 0.88

00:09:11.160 manifestation, when you get worship of Thor and Odin, and when you get, you know, in the

00:09:16.480 Scandinavian and Germanic peoples, and when you get the worship of the river gods in Peru and in 0.59

00:09:22.120 the jungles of Africa, attendant with that is some form of witchcraft where you have either a male

00:09:29.520 witch or a female witch that is going to be a part of that economy of worship. So when you think 0.81

00:09:35.980 witches, the first thing listeners need to understand, or I guess I'm used to saying

00:09:39.720 listeners as a podcaster and viewers viewers need to understand is that witchcraft is something

00:09:45.920 that attends all of these things that come back with demonic false worship i i would like to

00:09:52.320 define playing with witches and you get yeah you get demons yeah well that's that's i i would like

00:09:58.980 to define witchcraft yeah let's let's it's very important because because you're right but if

00:10:04.100 you're doing witchcraft you're already playing with demons yes so this is what it is if i could

00:10:08.480 put a sentence definition on witchcraft. It would be purposefully teaming up with supernatural

00:10:16.340 power, dark power, in order to achieve ends that are contrary to nature or the direction of where

00:10:24.300 nature's going. So that's how I would immediately define witchcraft. For example, you're usually

00:10:29.700 using witchcraft in order to curse someone else so that their crops don't grow, so that their

00:10:35.520 health doesn't improve. They don't have babies. So they don't have children. So the children they

00:10:39.800 do have are taken away and killed. Or you're taking their children away, killing them, consuming them 1.00

00:10:45.560 so that you get the life that they're owed and you steal the purity and the life. 0.99

00:10:50.180 Say that definition again. That was so good. I would say that the formal definition of witchcraft

00:10:56.580 is being purposefully in league with dark supernatural powers in order to achieve

00:11:02.420 ends contrary to nature.

00:11:03.920 Yeah.

00:11:04.440 So the United States government.

00:11:06.140 Yes.

00:11:06.700 Including the blessing,

00:11:08.200 because it's not negative.

00:11:08.940 Transgenderism.

00:11:09.420 I mean, like- 0.92

00:11:10.100 But here's the important-

00:11:10.760 Including the blessing of- 0.82

00:11:12.000 Abortion. 0.81

00:11:12.580 Of bad things.

00:11:13.580 Yes.

00:11:13.720 Like the witch saying,

00:11:14.940 get me blessing.

00:11:15.800 Yes.

00:11:16.180 But not earned blessing

00:11:17.220 that's reaping and sowing in God's world. 0.99

00:11:18.940 There's two degrees of witchcraft. 0.90

00:11:20.540 The Navajo understood this. 0.95

00:11:23.800 There's the one that just says,

00:11:25.640 I want everything good for me.

00:11:26.980 Right. 1.00

00:11:27.320 There's a greedy witch. 1.00

00:11:28.460 Yeah. 1.00

00:11:28.760 And then there's the,

00:11:30.000 which is malicious. 0.98

00:11:31.060 But then there's the overtly malicious witch, 0.68

00:11:34.180 which is, I don't necessarily care

00:11:35.860 about anything good for me,

00:11:37.340 but nothing good can happen to anyone else.

00:11:39.240 You just destroy the world.

00:11:40.380 Yes.

00:11:40.760 So they want to see the world burn.

00:11:42.080 They are the Joker.

00:11:42.740 Some men just want to see it.

00:11:43.980 This is my Jeremy Wade thing.

00:11:46.200 Oh, yeah.

00:11:47.220 This is the perfect place for it.

00:11:48.700 Can I just say something real quick?

00:11:50.460 Dude, my guy.

00:11:51.720 This is the perfect place.

00:11:52.760 You know you can.

00:11:53.400 You are my guy.

00:11:53.940 You are so handsome.

00:11:54.440 I trust you.

00:11:55.380 I look in your eyes and I trust you.

00:11:57.540 Okay, listen, you guys, it's funny,

00:11:59.660 but you were literally matching

00:12:01.180 and to say those things

00:12:03.140 while wearing the same shirt

00:12:04.180 the same jacket

00:12:04.960 I know

00:12:05.540 well that makes it worse

00:12:06.360 we're just vibe locked

00:12:07.200 that makes it worse

00:12:07.680 you're so locked in

00:12:08.760 you're my guy

00:12:09.420 and each other

00:12:09.940 while wearing the same outfit

00:12:11.540 we're always locked

00:12:12.240 David and Jonathan

00:12:13.060 I think you know who's there

00:12:14.100 but then making a case

00:12:15.440 of why it's wrong

00:12:16.340 to go against nature

00:12:17.260 it feels hypocritical

00:12:18.680 yeah I mean

00:12:19.440 one associated with the song

00:12:20.980 I just want to say

00:12:22.600 people already think

00:12:23.100 that we're brothers

00:12:23.600 stop calling yourself David

00:12:25.120 dude I am going to continue

00:12:26.440 to call myself

00:12:27.100 you're not David

00:12:27.840 Matt Chandler

00:12:28.720 listen to Matt Chandler

00:12:29.400 Get out of, Matt, now Neil deGrasse Tyson in the other episode, Matt Chandler said Matt Chandler.

00:12:32.740 I'm so ashamed of myself for positively quoting Matt Chandler.

00:12:35.440 Hey, I shouldn't have done that.

00:12:36.160 But you know now.

00:12:37.480 You should try to be like David, though.

00:12:39.160 Yeah, you should.

00:12:39.920 I am David, but go ahead.

00:12:40.780 You are supposed to be like David.

00:12:41.800 Of course.

00:12:42.240 Okay, so what I was going to say real quick is part of the reason that I say that formal definition

00:12:46.520 is because emphasis on intentional league with dark forces.

00:12:52.820 Yeah.

00:12:54.100 Witchcraft demands that you are intentionally in league

00:12:57.800 with dark supernatural beings.

00:12:59.540 If you're not, it's not witchcraft.

00:13:01.300 It might not be good.

00:13:02.200 Yeah, it might be something bad.

00:13:03.880 And it usually involves pharmakeia.

00:13:05.580 Oh yeah, I was going to say,

00:13:06.500 you got to bring in the pharmakeia.

00:13:08.700 We're going to get to that.

00:13:09.780 We're going to get into it in a full episode.

00:13:11.200 Real quick, and that's probably going to come after this episode,

00:13:13.760 but join our Patreon.

00:13:14.980 You can get early access, a whole thing on DMT.

00:13:17.180 Yeah, because it's usually, not always,

00:13:19.580 but usually it includes the use of pharmakeia

00:13:23.240 in order to commune with the supernatural force.

00:13:26.280 It's the bridge.

00:13:26.880 What I was going to say is the telephone.

00:13:28.180 Part of the reason that's so important

00:13:29.220 is because witchcraft is sort of in the zeitgeist right now,

00:13:33.300 where it is coming back, genuine witchcraft is coming back. 0.96

00:13:36.140 You also get a lot of Christians that seem to think

00:13:38.320 that anything they don't understand is witchcraft.

00:13:40.520 Yeah.

00:13:41.560 Okay, if you use essential oils

00:13:43.060 to help protect your family from the cold,

00:13:44.720 you're not a witch. 0.98

00:13:46.040 You're a witch. 0.95

00:13:46.660 You're doing potions. 0.94

00:13:47.600 You're not a witch.

00:13:47.920 No, no, no, no. 1.00

00:13:48.380 What you are is an idiot. 1.00

00:13:48.880 That's not witchcraft. 1.00

00:13:49.580 If you say that. 1.00

00:13:51.160 Witches do brew up certain things 1.00

00:13:53.720 and attempt these kind of talismanic curses 0.90

00:13:55.960 and things like that.

00:13:56.840 But the key constituent part is

00:13:59.100 they're doing that at the behest of

00:14:00.720 these supernatural powers.

00:14:02.640 And here's the thing.

00:14:03.480 They're also doing that because it works.

00:14:07.260 Sometimes mixing things in nature

00:14:08.880 to achieve a certain end

00:14:09.980 that seems contrary to nature works

00:14:11.880 because we live in a cursed world

00:14:13.180 and they're being guided by supernatural forces

00:14:15.240 that are more learned than they are.

00:14:16.740 That have knowledge.

00:14:17.220 And it's like holding on the mic right now.

00:14:18.940 Yeah, I'm really mad when you get this like functional anabaptist

00:14:23.120 that comes in and says,

00:14:24.140 well, anything I don't understand is just bad.

00:14:26.480 Stop.

00:14:27.260 No one asks you to be the Pope.

00:14:28.480 They do it in the natural health world sometimes.

00:14:30.080 Yes.

00:14:30.380 When they're like, oh, this is,

00:14:31.880 I talked about grounding in another episode

00:14:33.820 where the idea that maybe your body being in circuit electronically,

00:14:38.860 literally with the earth can produce good things,

00:14:41.480 which this, that is not witchcraft, everybody.

00:14:43.700 Real quick, when you say good things,

00:14:46.080 you're not saying manifest like you'll get a job.

00:14:47.860 I mean, like, physical effects that you were made to touch the earth.

00:14:50.380 Like, lower health, healthy things.

00:14:50.880 You were made to be in contact with the earth.

00:14:52.840 Like, lower, better blood pressure.

00:14:54.300 Yeah.

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00:16:04.640 registration will not last long so let me present two scenarios just real quick this is kind of a

00:16:11.120 rant and then you'll go i promise this will be quick so once ben just said joel look at my eyes

00:16:17.760 i am the captain no i mean we're talking about with witches and fairies it's like ben's in

00:16:25.020 charge okay look let's just let's just real quick i'm here for it these are happy to be here thanks 0.98

00:16:29.960 for inviting me yeah thank you joel yeah go ahead it's really just an honor to watch you

00:16:34.680 So there's two real scenarios of people that I either know or know of. Okay. The first scenario

00:16:42.220 is this, a loving Christian wife who is good to her husband and loves her children. And she is

00:16:48.320 also into homeopathy and she seeks to find natural remedies for things. Okay. And this might include

00:16:55.360 trying things that seem a little strange, like wrapping copper wire around a stick and putting

00:16:59.840 it into dirt to try to make your crops grow a little bit better. That just works, by the way.

00:17:02.820 Because it just works.

00:17:03.840 Actually, you should do that.

00:17:04.760 Okay, and then maybe it's also like,

00:17:07.560 well, I'm gonna try to mix these oils together

00:17:09.680 because I know that this one

00:17:10.800 is supposed to have this property.

00:17:12.780 And it's done in faith

00:17:14.880 that God will bless the good works

00:17:17.140 that she's trying to cultivate a healthy family

00:17:19.080 and a healthy home, okay?

00:17:21.160 Here's another scenario. 1.00

00:17:23.060 A single woman who hates God. 1.00

00:17:24.680 Always a single woman. 0.99

00:17:25.680 She votes for Joe Biden. 1.00

00:17:26.900 She hates men. 1.00

00:17:27.740 She's a fornicator. 1.00

00:17:28.660 She likes Taylor Swift. 1.00

00:17:29.420 She's probably a lesbian, okay? 1.00

00:17:31.440 But I've seen this happen. 1.00

00:17:33.440 Short hair. 1.00

00:17:34.180 In order to make her life. 1.00

00:17:37.080 Yeah.

00:17:37.520 Well, actually not in this case. 1.00

00:17:39.000 She's actually quite attractive. 1.00

00:17:40.100 In order to make her life better. 1.00

00:17:41.180 But she will eventually become ugly. 1.00

00:17:42.980 Yes, because you make yourself ugly. 0.99

00:17:44.320 You become ugly. 0.81

00:17:45.220 You're not ugly. 0.95

00:17:45.780 People aren't born.

00:17:46.720 They're not born.

00:17:47.240 They're made.

00:17:47.580 Okay.

00:17:48.440 Say it again one more time. 1.00

00:17:49.540 Ugly people aren't born. 1.00

00:17:50.800 They're made. 1.00

00:17:51.300 That's a motto.

00:17:52.200 Praise God.

00:17:52.680 And I know I'm saying that.

00:17:53.660 That's amazing.

00:17:54.080 I'm like a four out of 10.

00:17:54.920 That's powerful.

00:17:55.800 Let's do it.

00:17:56.200 We're trying.

00:17:56.620 I could have been a two.

00:17:57.880 Yeah, we're trying.

00:17:58.860 I could have been a two.

00:17:59.380 But sanctification has gotten me to a hard four.

00:18:02.000 Praise God.

00:18:02.600 Exactly.

00:18:03.340 Except I have, whatever.

00:18:04.740 Whatever. 0.97

00:18:05.100 So there's a woman who, much like the first woman, 0.98

00:18:08.800 is going to try to use something that she finds in nature 1.00

00:18:11.720 to achieve some end. 0.99

00:18:14.020 Except this time, she's going to use blood 0.99

00:18:17.980 that comes from her body.

00:18:21.480 Okay?

00:18:21.880 Please don't elaborate.

00:18:22.660 No, I'm not. 1.00

00:18:23.440 And she's going to pour it into the earth

00:18:26.520 as an offering to Gaia, Mother Earth, 0.99

00:18:30.260 so that she might not be fertile

00:18:32.980 because she doesn't want children. 1.00

00:18:36.060 Or similar scenario, a woman who gets an abortion, 1.00

00:18:39.760 which is just witchcraft, by the way, 0.82

00:18:41.640 it's an offering to the goddess of fertility

00:18:44.000 that your life might be well and flourishing. 0.99

00:18:47.620 But someone who gets an abortion

00:18:49.660 and keeps the child who's been murdered

00:18:53.400 and then offers that to the earth.

00:18:55.980 literally happened in the form of a shrine

00:18:57.840 or they burn the child.

00:19:00.040 Particularly in the age of chemical abortion.

00:19:03.280 That is intentional

00:19:04.280 partnership with forces of darkness. 0.78

00:19:06.880 I appreciate you painting the polar ends

00:19:08.680 because that does, now that

00:19:10.100 you say it like that.

00:19:12.440 And frankly, usually they're on psychedelics.

00:19:13.920 The extra virgin olive oil being mixed

00:19:16.240 with a few spices does seem a bit

00:19:18.420 different.

00:19:20.460 It's important to say that.

00:19:21.600 I feel like we can draw a distinction between the two.

00:19:23.580 You start to get into some of the natural health world

00:19:25.900 or whatever and you don't have to whatever yeah i don't care if you're into it or not yeah you

00:19:29.160 don't have to be some christians will look at that first example and they're pretty much like

00:19:33.500 double double toil and trouble fire burn and cauldron bubble like you're literally the witches

00:19:38.720 in shakespeare all of a sudden i'll put it this way you're not gonna be a witch accidentally

00:19:43.540 that see that's the thing christians are so often worried about it's like the whole thing with uh

00:19:48.920 you know if oh my if you guys listen to this episode of haunted cosmos where they talk about

00:19:53.040 sleep paralysis. You're going to start getting sleep paralysis. No, you won't. Simply read your

00:19:57.960 Bible, pray every day, and you're going to resist the devil and he'll flee. A prayer day gives the

00:20:02.840 witches away. Is the spirit that rose Christ from the dead not in you? Yeah, like, is he that weak? 0.63

00:20:07.700 Oh no, I heard about sleep paralysis. See, this is what I mean about the superstition. It can get

00:20:13.780 into us too, where we begin to think of things like cooties and like, I'm unintentionally going

00:20:18.660 to get it on me, the Taoismanic view. Instead of recognizing, this was Paul's fundamental

00:20:23.900 supposition when he said that all things are made holy by the word of God in prayer,

00:20:27.280 talking about meat sacrifice to idols. Eat anything in the meat market without question

00:20:31.620 of conscience. Why? Because they may have sacrificed that to Aphrodite. I don't care.

00:20:37.480 God made the meat and he made it for you to eat. So you don't go worship Aphrodite,

00:20:41.440 but you can't eat the meat. Thank God over the steak, eat it with a clean conscience

00:20:45.860 because God, Christ killed Aphrodite.

00:20:48.940 Christ has conquered and triumphed over that demon God. 0.86

00:20:52.340 And her blood is now foam on the sea. 0.85

00:20:54.320 There you go, mermaids.

00:20:55.540 Full circle. 0.99

00:20:56.060 Check it out, mermaids.

00:20:57.120 So are we ready for this?

00:20:58.200 So yeah, look, you're not going to accidentally be a witch.

00:21:00.540 Go.

00:21:00.680 Okay, so to your point about in league

00:21:03.580 with supernatural forces to achieve unnatural ends,

00:21:08.440 often aided by, we'll get into this,

00:21:11.940 but pharmakeia substances that are used

00:21:14.780 kind of like the telephone connection to get in touch with the demon. Or also ritualistic

00:21:19.480 practices, these talismanic or superstitious practices that are meant to invoke the demon

00:21:25.300 or get them there. And they work. That's why they do them. They either work because naturally they

00:21:31.120 work and there's something about it, or because the demons know and they make it work because

00:21:35.300 you think it's going to work. Whichever one that is, is kind of beside the point. Jeremy Wade

00:21:39.780 is an extreme angler dude extreme river monsters one of the greatest television shows on it's an

00:21:45.720 amazing show he ended the show because he had caught every river monster every freshwater

00:21:49.980 giant fish there were no more to catch he accomplished his goal really really chad king

00:21:54.540 kind of guy i mean just like old guy he'd been arrested by like communists as a spot like he's

00:22:01.360 fished everywhere in the world but i think an atheist or at least some kind of agnostic right

00:22:06.940 So he approaches these, he goes into these remote areas of India, Africa, South America, et cetera, and he encounters tribal people all the time.

00:22:16.560 He approaches them kind of the way that atheistic nature documentaries do. 0.95

00:22:21.000 Oh, look at the, you know, behold the primitive practices of the natives.

00:22:26.200 In their natural habits.

00:22:26.840 They fear the river god that might, you know, deny them their food for the week.

00:22:32.100 So he goes into these and he participates regularly

00:22:35.580 in shamanistic witchcraft where he's not,

00:22:39.820 there are several instances where he's not- 0.86

00:22:41.700 Classic atheist L, huh?

00:22:42.640 He is not catching the giant fish 0.54

00:22:44.380 that he's been trying for weeks to catch.

00:22:47.300 Okay, and at several points in the show,

00:22:49.740 he'll be like, now what they would used to do

00:22:51.640 is they would go in and they would go to the shaman

00:22:53.480 and say, bless my fishing.

00:22:54.680 So he'll take his fishing pole to the shaman

00:22:56.740 who will use often substances,

00:22:59.520 get in touch with his demons and say,

00:23:00.900 please help this white guy for whatever reason, catch this fish. And then he get the shaman,

00:23:05.740 you pay the shaman. Like that's how it works. And he's like the middleman, right? I'm not

00:23:10.960 kidding. When he does this, it works. The next day, several times, Jeremy Wade goes out and he

00:23:19.000 will catch the fish, giant, you know, Goliath tigerfish or some giant Asian, you know, catfish

00:23:25.960 that he's trying to get.

00:23:27.540 Not just once, several times in the show.

00:23:30.060 And people that are watching, he'll then be like,

00:23:32.700 you know, they do the whole dramatic thing.

00:23:34.000 Was there something to the shaman's work?

00:23:35.880 And I'm like yelling at the TV.

00:23:37.800 I'm like, yes, and stop.

00:23:40.020 The demons are helping you catch the fish.

00:23:42.940 Contrary to nature.

00:23:44.440 Yeah, exactly.

00:23:45.360 They're helping you to achieve this highly improbable end

00:23:49.200 because you've given an offering to the demons.

00:23:51.700 Yes.

00:23:51.880 So even atheists that don't really believe, 0.93

00:23:55.800 it's like in the last battle when the Calermans summon Tash, 0.64

00:23:59.760 whom they don't believe in, and they get Tash.

00:24:02.640 They get Tash.

00:24:02.920 And he shows up. 0.98

00:24:05.100 To me, that was such a light bulb moment in the witchcraft discussion

00:24:08.980 because I'm looking at this thing that doesn't look like my conception of witchcraft.

00:24:12.940 This man, shaman kind of man.

00:24:15.220 And I realized it ticks all the boxes.

00:24:17.000 Oh, that's what the Old Testament is talking about when it talks about witches.

00:24:20.420 Yeah.

00:24:20.920 That's what's happening right here.

00:24:22.180 And it worked.

00:24:23.040 So in Iceland, that's amazing, by the way.

00:24:25.280 I mean, what a crazy.

00:24:26.380 That's amazing, yeah.

00:24:26.760 In Iceland, most of the witches are men. 0.84

00:24:29.640 Are men, male witches.

00:24:30.740 And especially as Protestantism started to make waves into Iceland, 0.82

00:24:35.880 it was almost completely a male population of witches. 0.96

00:24:39.880 And what they would do is they would take some substance that's bad 0.95

00:24:44.020 and they would carve runes into a rock.

00:24:48.740 This goes back to the talisman discussion earlier.

00:24:50.640 They'd carve runes into a rock, and then they would ritualistically cut themselves and pour

00:24:55.760 their blood over the runes as they recited incantations to the god or to their familiar

00:25:01.660 spirit. We can talk about what that is. And then now this talismanic rune monument served to

00:25:09.600 contain the power that they were asking for, such that when they wanted to exercise that power,

00:25:15.480 they could recite the runes back.

00:25:17.900 And since they gave their life to the rune,

00:25:20.580 because the life is in the blood,

00:25:22.060 and everyone knows this,

00:25:23.180 everyone knows that this is true.

00:25:25.600 Since the life is in the blood,

00:25:26.920 he gave his life to this power

00:25:28.540 so that he could have it back when he needed it.

00:25:30.760 So he gave an offering to the God.

00:25:33.120 And have it amplified by dark forces.

00:25:35.360 Yes, exactly.

00:25:36.060 So it's in league with dark forces.

00:25:37.940 It ends contrary to nature,

00:25:39.900 but it's oftentimes using tools

00:25:41.960 that are already in nature

00:25:43.320 that are then amplified and twisted by the dark forces.

00:25:47.560 Familiar spirit.

00:25:48.280 Yeah, we got to talk about familiar spirits.

00:25:49.980 This is important to understand

00:25:51.760 the cold opening passage from 1 Samuel

00:25:53.940 about why the medium is surprised. 0.78

00:25:57.800 And she wasn't surprised because she was a charlatan

00:26:01.000 who never did anything real. 0.68

00:26:02.640 She was surprised because...

00:26:04.460 Right, because, okay, so the reason that we know

00:26:06.640 that she wasn't a charlatan,

00:26:07.980 or we can safely assume she wasn't a charlatan,

00:26:10.820 is because God doesn't give capital punishment

00:26:12.600 for wasting time. That doesn't fit. God says, you shall not suffer a witch to live, not because

00:26:20.180 they're just lazy, but because they're making the demons. Or a necromancer. Yeah, or a necromancer. 1.00

00:26:24.640 They're summoning the unclean spirits back to the land that God is supposed to sanctify

00:26:27.820 and drive out. And here they're bringing him back. Yeah. So we have this legitimate witch.

00:26:32.280 Saul knows about her. After he had driven out the witches and necromancers,

00:26:36.840 she begins practicing again. And he's like, well, she's a real one. That one works.

00:26:42.600 So she goes there, and the reason that she's surprised

00:26:44.780 is because of a thing called familiar spirits.

00:26:47.620 The text reads strangely, if you don't understand this feature.

00:26:51.640 Because Samuel's ghost comes up, she is shocked and afraid.

00:26:55.360 That means two things.

00:26:56.780 One, she recognizes the ghost as Samuel's ghost.

00:27:00.760 And two, she wasn't expecting Samuel's ghost,

00:27:04.240 even though that's exactly what she was asking for.

00:27:07.220 But she was expecting a ghost.

00:27:09.040 That's the thing.

00:27:10.140 But one that was familiar.

00:27:11.640 Right, since we know she wasn't a charlatan,

00:27:14.040 we know that she was expecting something.

00:27:16.260 So what was she expecting?

00:27:17.700 Well, familiar spirit,

00:27:19.080 which is the particular unclean, evil, demonic spirit,

00:27:22.600 whatever you want to call it,

00:27:23.680 the witch latches him or herself to

00:27:25.860 that aids them in accomplishing these things.

00:27:29.420 On a regular basis.

00:27:30.740 Ongoing partnership.

00:27:32.080 Yes.

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00:29:12.060 So the other example that I like to bring up

00:29:14.460 is also in the Bible, and it's in Exodus.

00:29:17.400 And it's when you have the first wizarding battle

00:29:20.300 in history that's documented. 0.69

00:29:21.720 And that is between Moses and the Egyptian Magi,

00:29:24.380 where Moses goes before Pharaoh,

00:29:26.880 The staff becomes a serpent. 0.76

00:29:29.080 The Magi also make serpents out of their staffs.

00:29:32.480 And it's not smoking me.

00:29:33.440 And by the way, the word for serpent is tannin,

00:29:36.040 which is like a six-headed dragon.

00:29:37.600 And by the way, also Prince of Egypt,

00:29:39.900 the whole thing where they make it look

00:29:41.280 like they're just faking it.

00:29:42.600 Right, that's what they do, yeah.

00:29:43.680 It drives me nuts.

00:29:44.780 Yeah, I don't like that.

00:29:45.320 Yeah, that's not what the text says.

00:29:47.540 The text says that they did the same thing.

00:29:49.520 They could do it until. 0.77

00:29:50.800 And so then they, and then Moses' serpent eats theirs,

00:29:54.840 which is really just amazing.

00:29:55.720 So they both have power, but one is superior.

00:29:57.940 Right.

00:29:58.320 But then something else happens.

00:29:59.380 But they both have real power.

00:30:00.200 And then the next day, the Lord says that he's going to strike the Nile and turn it to blood.

00:30:06.180 And so he does.

00:30:06.980 And the magicians can also do that. 0.97

00:30:09.180 They can also kill the Nile River God and fill the water with blood.

00:30:13.200 And then the next day, or the next plague, is the frogs.

00:30:17.420 And the frogs happen. 0.83

00:30:18.920 And the Egyptian magi can also do the frog thing. 0.78

00:30:21.320 Yeah, like we got frogs too.

00:30:22.520 We can do frogs.

00:30:22.820 Yeah, we can do frogs too.

00:30:24.320 but then they can't do anything else. 1.00

00:30:25.880 The Egyptian witches. 0.98

00:30:27.700 Yeah, the Egyptian witches, baby, 1.00

00:30:29.420 who are going to get stitches 0.99

00:30:30.660 when they're first born or are all killed. 0.99

00:30:32.520 The Egyptian witches finna get stitches. 0.99

00:30:34.740 Yeah. 1.00

00:30:35.700 But after the frogs,

00:30:37.500 so after the second plague,

00:30:38.940 they can't-

00:30:39.240 So they're like pound for pound

00:30:40.220 in the first day.

00:30:40.840 They're not pound for pound 0.98

00:30:41.940 because Moses is always superior.

00:30:44.540 Also, Moses is like,

00:30:46.200 this is not his thing.

00:30:48.260 These guys are like professionals.

00:30:49.960 Yeah, right.

00:30:50.300 It'd be like if you were getting into

00:30:52.220 like a chess battle with Magnus Carlsen.

00:30:54.840 Supposedly, these are like the witches

00:30:56.420 for the king of the whole empire.

00:30:59.180 Like they are the elite.

00:31:00.500 And then there's this guy

00:31:01.580 that was raised in the courts,

00:31:03.360 but he's been out in the wilderness.

00:31:04.560 He hasn't studied this stuff. 0.91

00:31:05.900 This Gibranian has been a Midian for 40 years. 1.00

00:31:07.040 He doesn't know all the runes 0.99

00:31:08.380 and the rituals and the stuff.

00:31:09.520 He's just been, you know.

00:31:10.100 Right.

00:31:10.520 So they're kind of, they're matched.

00:31:13.180 It gives one reason to believe 1.00

00:31:14.920 that Pharaoh wasn't a total idiot 1.00

00:31:16.720 for hardening his heart afterwards. 1.00

00:31:19.720 Because he's like,

00:31:20.080 well, my magicians can do something.

00:31:21.360 He's like, I could do this. 0.94

00:31:22.220 After the frogs, the Egyptian magi can no longer do it. 0.94

00:31:26.320 And the reason is the frog plague was a direct assault on Egyptian fertility.

00:31:33.220 The frog was the symbol of Egyptian fertility because the frog, anytime the Nile flooded

00:31:38.360 its banks and provided a great crop yield, all the frogs would put their eggs closer

00:31:43.500 to the Egyptian houses.

00:31:44.840 And so at the time of great harvest and great yield, you would see a lot of frogs.

00:31:49.920 Because their agrarian economy worked

00:31:52.020 that the Nile flooded on a regular basis.

00:31:53.820 They counted on it every year.

00:31:54.580 That's how it irrigated their crops.

00:31:56.240 And so they'd see more frogs when there's more irrigation 0.78

00:31:58.900 and they'd be like, ah, fertility, frogs.

00:32:00.960 So they had the goddess of fertility,

00:32:02.320 just like every other ancient culture

00:32:03.600 has a goddess of fertility.

00:32:05.440 And she was a frog because they associated that.

00:32:07.640 But here's the other thing,

00:32:09.400 is that every other ancient goddess of fertility

00:32:11.720 was somehow one way or another,

00:32:13.200 whether it's herself or the consort that's with her,

00:32:15.920 is also the goddess of witchcraft and necromancy.

00:32:19.640 In Egypt, and her name escapes me, 0.82

00:32:22.860 but the goddess of fertility is also the goddess of witchcraft. 0.76

00:32:26.580 And so what's happening is God is judging the goddess of fertility

00:32:31.560 and witchcraft in Egypt. 1.00

00:32:32.840 It's so good. 0.94

00:32:33.400 And after he does that, the Egyptian magi can't keep up. 0.97

00:32:37.460 The witchcraft stops working.

00:32:38.380 They can't do witchcraft anymore.

00:32:39.060 It's just so perfect.

00:32:40.280 It's so amazing.

00:32:41.220 Their familiar spirit was killed.

00:32:43.400 And it was like the god familiar spirit. 0.99

00:32:44.960 And now they are charlatans.

00:32:46.220 Now they're left with nothing.

00:32:47.620 Even in Acts, the example I gave in another episode

00:32:50.360 of the spirit of prophecy

00:32:52.700 that Paul cast out of the young girl. 0.63

00:32:55.060 The slave girl. 0.91

00:32:55.520 That was her familiar spirit, essentially. 0.80

00:32:57.680 And you can see how it would function.

00:32:59.980 It also, like I've heard a story of a medium

00:33:01.880 where a lot of the time the mediums,

00:33:04.040 modernly, you can go to mediums today 0.92

00:33:05.800 and some of them are total charlatans 0.86

00:33:07.900 that do cold reading and all of that and mentalism. 0.92

00:33:10.740 But I think some of them are real.

00:33:12.620 And what they're doing is

00:33:13.880 they have a familiar spirit, a demon,

00:33:16.160 that will go and be able to find stuff out

00:33:19.060 about people living or dead.

00:33:20.500 It has knowledge that is beyond

00:33:22.180 the capacity of this person.

00:33:23.800 So they will say things like,

00:33:25.520 if you go to a medium, 0.71

00:33:27.180 oh, I see a man coming into the room. 0.99

00:33:31.020 Do you have a recently deceased grandfather?

00:33:33.480 Something like that.

00:33:33.940 You know, the name Dave is coming to mind.

00:33:36.000 Like my grandfather was David.

00:33:38.480 He just died.

00:33:40.320 Well, he wants me to tell you that

00:33:42.080 Susan, his wife,

00:33:44.740 is going to be okay.

00:33:46.160 and, you know, and Susan, sure enough,

00:33:48.200 is like on her deathbed or in hospice care

00:33:50.780 and he's waiting, he's gotten ready.

00:33:52.860 He's going to help her through to the other side

00:33:54.480 and death is really just another part of the chapter.

00:33:58.040 Yeah, so the familiar spirit will be pretending.

00:34:01.360 And I think sometimes the medium is not even familiar

00:34:03.480 with what's really happening, pun not intended.

00:34:06.440 But, you know, the medium doesn't even necessarily know.

00:34:08.540 Sometimes they're equally deceived into thinking

00:34:11.120 they're actually talking to all these different things

00:34:13.280 and maybe they're not some of the time,

00:34:15.020 but it's the same thing that was happening in Acts

00:34:18.820 that was happening in Egypt.

00:34:21.040 It's all the same thing.

00:34:22.260 It's a familiar spirit giving them power

00:34:24.680 and also giving them knowledge that they ought not have.

00:34:27.000 And you know what's really interesting?

00:34:28.520 A lot of people misunderstand this.

00:34:30.000 They think that the Middle Ages

00:34:31.000 were filled with witch trials.

00:34:32.740 They weren't.

00:34:33.560 They weren't. 0.99

00:34:34.020 The Renaissance was filled with witch trials. 0.99

00:34:36.640 I wonder why. 0.86

00:34:37.520 And it's because they rejected God in the Renaissance. 0.76

00:34:40.020 But the Middle Ages,

00:34:41.440 there were virtually no witch trials.

00:34:44.260 And what few there were, were incredibly measured, sober-minded, and very few people

00:34:50.060 were ever executed for witchcraft. And so I believe that those people were rightly executed 0.96

00:34:54.240 for witchcraft. But in the Middle Ages, because Christendom was so potent, Christ's gospel had 0.87

00:35:01.740 permeated all of Europe. There are virtually no documented witch trials that happen. And then in

00:35:06.620 the Renaissance, you see a massive uptick. And it's because that was really the genesis that led

00:35:12.340 to the Enlightenment, where they fully rejected God. But even in the Renaissance, they started to,

00:35:18.220 I think, rightfully reclaim classicism, but in a way that was a little bit too...

00:35:24.080 Yeah, they took a little bit too much liberty with it. And so you start to see this rejection of

00:35:29.460 the altar in your heart, but it's a swept home. And so now you have the Pembershire witch trials,

00:35:36.860 And then you have the Salem witch trials over in America.

00:35:39.180 And all of these things are, I think, worth investigating.

00:35:43.240 Right.

00:35:43.660 And are usually mixed bags.

00:35:45.340 Yeah.

00:35:45.840 Yeah, they're almost never, when you come into these historical-

00:35:48.600 Some of those really were.

00:35:49.640 Yeah, they're almost never like this historical tale

00:35:52.840 where it's like, one guy did everything perfectly right.

00:35:55.880 Right.

00:35:56.280 And the other guy was just like literally a cackling, 0.90

00:35:59.200 you know, witch guy with the wart and the black cat and everything.

00:36:04.340 It's like, that's just not how it usually works.

00:36:05.400 Well, think about how confusing spiritually of a time that must have been.

00:36:08.340 Right, yeah.

00:36:08.940 Like right now, it's actually a little bit easier to see like, 0.97

00:36:12.100 oh, that trash world, that's real bad.

00:36:14.660 Well, and part of it also is like, so at that time, 0.97

00:36:17.180 as you're settling the Americas and you're thinking of like Salem witch trial,

00:36:20.380 those kinds of things, it's that you've got a lot of Christendom going on,

00:36:23.740 but you do have the Renaissance and Enlightenment starting to foil everything. 0.99

00:36:28.000 But then you also have, geographically, going back to some fairies,

00:36:32.200 you know, and elemental spirits and those kinds of things,

00:36:33.820 you have a new place,

00:36:34.860 a new place where Christendom has not yet been.

00:36:37.120 A new place where it's been, 0.99

00:36:39.280 the only people group that's been there 0.98

00:36:40.600 that's dominated the place 0.96

00:36:41.700 are completely pagan indigenous people 1.00

00:36:44.040 who do DMT, the natural version, 1.00

00:36:47.720 and commune with demons.

00:36:50.000 So there's some elements going on there. 0.99

00:36:52.660 The Puritans fully believed

00:36:54.900 that when they were coming over to the new world, 0.92

00:36:57.240 they were coming over to a world

00:36:58.440 in which the spiritual warfare was raging

00:37:00.680 and they would have to throw down.

00:37:02.280 Yeah, they were going to have to go full Rohan and charge the line.

00:37:06.760 And maybe they threw down a little bit too much in Salem.

00:37:09.780 Yeah, I think they did.

00:37:11.540 But also they threw down an appropriate amount, some too.

00:37:14.180 Ben did a series.

00:37:15.260 It's actually going to be released in our main feed.

00:37:17.400 Yeah.

00:37:18.080 It was originally a dusty tome, but it's like five parts.

00:37:21.540 Yeah, four parts dusty tome.

00:37:23.340 On Salem trials.

00:37:24.020 On Salem, but then a primer on witches before that.

00:37:26.680 Yeah.

00:37:27.220 But what they thought was that when they cleared out a settlement,

00:37:30.800 if you went beyond the walls of that settlement,

00:37:33.420 you were now in the realm of the devil

00:37:35.560 because Christ's lordship had not been proclaimed yet there.

00:37:39.820 So a lot of people today will hear stories

00:37:42.600 about how the people in Salem would look down on those

00:37:45.200 who spent a lot of time in the woods 1.00

00:37:46.860 because they were so stupid. 1.00

00:37:49.620 No, it's because they lived in a world that we live in 1.00

00:37:52.620 where you are matters spiritually.

00:37:56.440 And so they were like,

00:37:57.600 why are those people spending so much time

00:37:59.380 in the realm of the devil?

00:38:00.340 Maybe it's because they like the devil.

00:38:03.440 Maybe they love Satan.

00:38:06.060 And the guys, some of them are like,

00:38:07.760 we just needed firewood.

00:38:09.100 Right.

00:38:11.380 But that's part of why they took this so seriously.

00:38:14.240 Because they actually were in the midst of dark forces

00:38:17.620 that had to be driven out.

00:38:19.600 And so they couldn't have any turncoats.

00:38:21.740 Anyone in their midst that was willing

00:38:23.160 to go in league with those dark forces, 0.79

00:38:25.480 God was right. 1.00

00:38:26.220 You shall not suffer a witch to live. 0.66

00:38:27.800 And they couldn't afford to suffer the witches to live.

00:38:31.880 And so I think that Salem is an example

00:38:34.000 of something that probably started very legitimate,

00:38:36.700 but then because other people are also sinful,

00:38:39.240 quickly blew out of proportion.

00:38:40.980 They did not suffer a witch to live,

00:38:42.900 definitely didn't suffer a witch to vote. 0.99

00:38:45.420 Yeah, that's so true.

00:38:47.380 Are we doing an episode on that?

00:38:49.200 No, no.

00:38:50.040 All right, well, let's go ahead and end there. 0.98

00:38:51.820 I feel like that's fantastic for witches.

00:38:53.980 Talked about familiar spirits,

00:38:55.100 but also just referencing some other episodes.

00:38:57.360 If you want to talk, get a little bit more information

00:38:59.620 on elemental spirits and fairies,

00:39:02.100 check out the episode on fairies.

00:39:03.600 Check out the episode on Bigfoot.

00:39:05.460 Also, check out the episode on angels and ghosts.

00:39:09.900 Really, just all of them.

00:39:11.040 And I think that covers it.

00:39:11.860 Just all of the episodes.

00:39:12.560 Oh, and then hollow earth, throw it in.

00:39:15.160 But then also in terms of back,

00:39:17.040 this will be kind of one further step

00:39:19.680 that we're going to do with witches.

00:39:21.020 So those are going back and getting some stuff,

00:39:22.820 but going further would be bringing some of the-

00:39:26.600 of the DMT to the table. So that'll be the next step. We'll be doing that next. All right. God

00:39:31.780 bless. Real quick, right here at the end, I just wanted to remind you to become a member at

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The NXR Podcast - May 31, 2024

THE FRIDAY SPECIAL - Witches, Necromancy & “Familiar Spirits”

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