The NXR Podcast - THE LIVESTREAM - Excommunicated Over H-1Bs, Vivek’s Heresy, and Antifa Pastors

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00:00:30.000 it's friday and today is a news roundup three major stories that we want to cover in today's

00:00:40.460 episode welcome to the show the first story that we're going to cover is an excommunication that

00:00:47.140 just took place from a church with a well-known pastor who has been a celebrity worship music

00:00:54.280 artist, and they kicked one of their members out who had already had his business crushed by the

00:01:00.960 left, by communists in our nation, already experienced plenty of personal loss, and the

00:01:07.460 church that he was a member at decided to hop on board with the world and persecuting a follower

00:01:14.220 of Christ. Now, why was he excommunicated? Well, because, of course, he's a racist. And what do we

00:01:19.520 mean by that well he believes of course that there are some tribes and people groups who are subhuman

00:01:26.000 that don't even have a soul that can't be saved nope not even close what did he believe what did

00:01:32.780 he say he said he wanted his children to grow up in an america that looked like america he simply

00:01:40.240 said that he didn't want millions of indians on h1b visas continuing to be shipped to our country

00:01:48.420 He wanted America to stay America. He was against mass immigration from foreign nations with people

00:01:55.300 who worship foreign gods. And for that, the leftist communist in our nation turned and

00:02:01.880 crushed his business. Now that is no surprise. But what is so tragic and sad is that his church

00:02:09.440 and well-known Christian pastor joined not Christ, not him, not his family in their defense,

00:02:16.840 but joined the world in trying to crush this man and excommunicating him from the church.

00:02:23.660 That's the first story that we'll look into, and we'll read a statement in regards to that

00:02:27.680 wrongful, wicked excommunication. Second story, since we're talking about a bunch of Indians and

00:02:34.720 Hindus on H-1B visas, we'd be remiss if we did not bring up one of our favorite Indians,

00:02:40.900 Vivek Ramaswamy. Vivek Ramaswamy, once again, trying to lecture heritage and

00:02:46.820 Americans on what it means to be an American. Vivek is second generation. He's born in Ohio,

00:02:53.220 but his parents, only one generation removed from a country on the other side of the world,

00:02:59.340 and he himself, not only his parents, he himself, yes, he went to a Catholic school,

00:03:04.520 but he is still a Hindu. And he tried to make the comparison that Christians believing and

00:03:11.000 worshiping the triune god is somehow the same as indians worshiping three million different

00:03:19.060 demonic gods okay there's vivek for you that guy has been a loser from the start right he

00:03:26.340 scammed a bunch of people with pharmaceutical medicines and when he made a bunch of money there

00:03:34.000 he decided to pivot and try to become the president of the united states and tell you what

00:03:38.540 it means to be a Christian and what it means to be an American. So that's our second story.

00:03:42.780 And then lastly, the third story is an Antifa pastor. Antifa pastor, I think, is a fair term.

00:03:51.340 I don't know whether or not he himself is actually a formal member of Antifa, but he took the side

00:03:56.860 of Antifa in protesting in his city against God's magistrate, the civil magistrate, God's deacon,

00:04:04.060 who is trying to take illegal aliens who should not be in our country and get them out, aka

00:04:11.220 executing justice. He stood with a bunch of antifa and leftist protesters against ICE as ICE is

00:04:20.200 trying to do the just thing that aligns with the Word of God. The Bible is clear that God sets

00:04:26.520 nations, Acts chapter 17, he sets their times and their boundaries. You're allowed to have a country,

00:04:33.020 It has boundaries set by the providence of God.

00:04:36.160 You're allowed to have borders, and you're allowed to say that the entire world doesn't

00:04:40.220 get to come and move into your country, certainly illegally.

00:04:45.200 And yet we have a pastor in this case who is siding with Antifa against the Trump admin

00:04:51.520 ICE that are there trying to clean up the streets of this particular city and get criminal,

00:04:58.140 illegal aliens out of town.

00:05:01.220 and this pastor there's an iconic photo of him standing with the communist a communist at heart

00:05:07.460 himself no doubt and that will be the third story that we'll address today it's been a busy news

00:05:12.760 cycle there's a lot going on we'll also talk about give you a quick update on how many people have

00:05:18.480 actually deported or self-deported so far in the last few months of trump's administration coming

00:05:24.420 up on his completion of his first year now so we'll give you all the news today and we'll do

00:05:29.620 our best to break it down and then deal with super chats at the end. If you want to send in a

00:05:33.700 question, we'll do our best to answer it. If you send it as a super chat, then that's going to get

00:05:38.080 the top priority and we'll make sure that we answer all of those. That's the show. Let's go

00:05:42.480 ahead and tune in now. All right. All right. It is Friday. Good afternoon, Kings and Queens.

00:05:57.700 good afternoon i think we start with h1b visas and we mentioned specifically uh this man his

00:06:04.340 name's daniel and his excommunication but let's start with the good news k-e-e-n-e yes sir so

00:06:11.660 i think we'll start with the good news actually so dhs department of homeland security tracks

00:06:15.980 your native-born and foreign-born populations and so this is a great estimate of hey uh are

00:06:21.420 people coming in are people going out and when we think about mass deportations we want the

00:06:25.780 deportations themselves, literally. So you have ICE literally taking people and bringing them back to

00:06:30.680 their country of origin. They're going to be much happier there. They speak the language. They know

00:06:34.180 the recipes. That's great. But there's also people that are going to voluntarily leave. They're going

00:06:38.360 to say, hey, we had a good run. The last four years were awesome. I can tell this is just not

00:06:42.660 the place for me. And so we don't want to just track necessarily deportations because that number

00:06:47.420 is actually going to be smaller than the full overall number. And your full overall number is

00:06:51.220 going to be your decline in foreign-born population. And so since the start of the

00:06:55.960 Trump administration, DHS has tracked a decline. You can see here on the graph, if it's up on the

00:07:01.120 screen, a decline now of about 2.2 million. So we're about nine months in, January 20th,

00:07:06.820 Trump took office. We're nine months in, and we're actually down. If you kind of round it all up,

00:07:10.940 like I said, you got your literal deportations on one end. You have, of course, people that left

00:07:15.400 voluntarily. You've got a good, sizable decline, the biggest one for sure in four years,

00:07:20.740 going on and i think that's a great thing we say chimp when there's things being done and we

00:07:26.620 strongly disagree with it this is wrong this is wrong some of the older listeners if you've been

00:07:30.940 like you guys keep talking about chimps why not orangutans why not gorillas why um it's it's just

00:07:37.740 a term saying you should raise your voice and righteously complain when the civil magistrate

00:07:43.540 is not doing what he's called by god to do exactly and they work for you remember we have a

00:07:49.700 representative government your representative your senator all the way up to your president

00:07:53.960 they work for you that is literally their job what is the voice of the people i'm being sent up

00:07:59.040 as a representative of them who do the things that they want me to do so this is great if this

00:08:04.680 continues at least at minimum you'd be looking at honestly probably reversing as you can see in that

00:08:10.120 chart the last four years of the dramatic increase of about 10 million that's documented

00:08:15.220 the last increase of 10 million the last four years of the auto pin presidency uh coupled with

00:08:21.300 our borders are um that last four years uh most of the i think the most accurate estimates that

00:08:27.660 i've seen is between 30 and 40 million now that's legal right illegal and then gotaways

00:08:33.680 right people who weren't even registered so accounting for that in addition people say that

00:08:39.180 everyone who actually crossed the border and stayed in our country legally, illegally,

00:08:45.420 and then also the gotaways was probably somewhere between 30 to 40 million from 2020 to 2024

00:08:51.740 for very, very dark years. And like you said, we're looking at 2.2 million. So let's say we

00:08:58.540 finished the year. We still got a few more months to go. Let's say we be charitable here and say

00:09:04.120 we finished the year at 3 million, right? So if you just stayed on that pace, that's 12. But a lot

00:09:10.420 of this first year of Trump's administration was all the holdups in the courts. And so having to

00:09:15.980 remove certain judges and all these kinds of things, getting funding, the big, beautiful bill

00:09:21.660 being passed and all those kinds of things. So I think it's fair to say that the next three years,

00:09:26.320 they should be able to accomplish more than the first. So if it's 3 million in the first,

00:09:30.040 and that's the least of his four year administration, then let's say, you know,

00:09:34.300 maybe it's an average of 5 million for the next three years.

00:09:37.460 So then that puts you at 18 million.

00:09:39.040 So I don't know if we're going to get 30 to 40, but I think that we could get 20.

00:09:44.880 I think 20 is in the ballpark and maybe by the grace of God, even more.

00:09:49.600 So I would say there's probably about 50 to 100 million people that need to go back.

00:09:54.300 but all that being you know looking from even the 60s the heart seller act and you know all

00:10:01.080 these different things that brought a bunch of people in who don't they're not compatible with

00:10:06.760 america i'm not saying every immigrant since the 1960s has to go but i'm primarily thinking of

00:10:13.900 those who are not compatible with america they have not shown any desire to assimilate people

00:10:18.860 have been here for you know 40 years and still don't speak English right and they're not Christian

00:10:24.660 they have some kind of eastern religion whether it's Hinduism or Islam or whatever I think that

00:10:30.700 50 to 100 million need to go and that's kind of over the last you know 60 65 70 years but we you

00:10:39.080 know with that 50 to 100 million about depending how you count I would say 25 30 35 percent of that

00:10:47.940 came in those four dark years of the auto pen administration and so i think that over these

00:10:54.020 next you know four years of trump's presidency we may be able to at least undo the last four years

00:10:59.880 of 2020 to 2024 uh that would put us you know where if we could undo that get rid of 20 maybe

00:11:06.200 even 30 million or so and that would put us to where okay now now we have another you know

00:11:12.400 low estimate would be like 25 million, high estimate 70 that need to go. And that means we

00:11:19.680 still have a lot more work, but we're in a much better position. And in that sense alone, we have

00:11:25.560 been frustrated by the first year of Trump's presidency. There's things that we like, but

00:11:30.720 there's a lot of things that we dislike. And so we are regular chimpers, as they say. That said,

00:11:37.640 though if all trump does is undo the previous four years and there's still 50 million people

00:11:44.020 you know who should not be in the country uh but no longer 70 80 or 100 million people that should

00:11:50.200 not be in the country and you also have to couple that with the fact that if trump had lost it's not

00:11:55.480 just that that we wanted to get rid of 20 to 30 million people but we would get another 20 30 or

00:12:00.880 40 million people because the border would have stayed wide open with the kamala presidency so so

00:12:07.160 in terms of the swing you'd have 20 to 40 million more during these four years if it had been

00:12:13.500 kamala and we might be looking at 20 to 30 million less and so when you when you look at that and and

00:12:19.660 add the swing together you're looking at anywhere from 40 to 70 million immigrant difference right

00:12:27.320 and and if that's all he does and i'm hoping and praying that he does more than that but if that's

00:12:32.120 All he does, then it is not hyperbole to say that Donald J. Trump quite literally saved the country.

00:12:39.200 There is a saying, demographics is destiny.

00:12:41.720 Why don't we have huge wins like we saw Reagan win back during his second term?

00:12:45.860 He carried 49 states.

00:12:47.100 You'll never have those wins again.

00:12:47.980 America looked a lot different then.

00:12:49.280 That's right.

00:12:49.900 Your demographics, there is no reality.

00:12:51.840 Right now, it's possible.

00:12:53.200 For 2028 and the Republican platform.

00:12:55.020 Here's the irony.

00:12:55.740 Why don't we have huge wins like Reagan had back in the day?

00:12:58.700 Reagan.

00:12:59.220 Right.

00:12:59.620 Reagan said, I had a generational run

00:13:02.000 and I'm going to make sure nobody after me

00:13:03.980 is able to repeat.

00:13:04.880 And in that sense, I know that he was silent generation,

00:13:07.040 but in that sense, Reagan was the precursor

00:13:09.480 of the perfect boomer.

00:13:10.800 I'm going to have something

00:13:12.140 and then I'm also through my amnesty laws,

00:13:14.720 I'm going to have this massive win.

00:13:16.320 And then through my stupid amnesty laws,

00:13:18.520 I'm going to ensure that the great thing

00:13:19.980 that I experienced, no generation after me

00:13:21.980 will ever be able to experience.

00:13:23.520 He was truly the first of the boomers.

00:13:27.100 But all that to say, in 2028,

00:13:29.260 we could legitimately see, I don't think they're going to win the nomination and go for president.

00:13:33.700 J.D. Vance, like him or love him or hate him, he is the heir apparent. But it's very possible,

00:13:38.480 and I think likely, that we'll see some type of truly right-wing populist figure at least

00:13:44.240 mount a decent challenge. But in an America where, again, you're talking 50, 60, 70 million more

00:13:49.820 people that very much so do not carry the heart and soul of America, they're not conservative

00:13:54.620 in their beliefs, that person stands much less of a chance of ever being heard out.

00:13:59.840 And so the demographics, that core that you're looking at, and those 30, 40 million people

00:14:04.680 being in, being out, I mean, that literally affects the avenues that you have to do things.

00:14:09.160 So I think that's huge.

00:14:10.560 Brad said in the chat, get rid of legal immigration.

00:14:12.920 It's fraud.

00:14:13.900 Well, great news, Brad.

00:14:14.980 A United States senator, Eric Schmidt from Missouri, he's repeating that same line.

00:14:19.640 He was out today in a talk, just a very minor news point, out this week in a talk, and he's

00:14:23.960 like guys it's not just uh you know illegal immigration it's not just the border uh no it's

00:14:29.220 legal immigration we're replacing american workers that's another way to tell you're winning yeah

00:14:33.340 people don't get it like even in the chat right now so that was a great comment right above this

00:14:36.720 here's a comment right below uh a guy named alan he wrote in and said uh why do you keep saying

00:14:41.900 immigrant what you should be saying is illegal illegal the term is illegal immigrant um okay

00:14:49.340 boomer uh that's uh that that is the precise we're done with that we're done with that we've

00:14:54.860 got a country to save guys and we don't have time uh for your you know sensitive proclivities um

00:15:01.200 you've got to catch up to speed and if not then we're just going to have to steamroll over you

00:15:05.760 in the kindest way most respectful way possible of course but uh no we we have a country to save

00:15:11.480 we are losing our country it's not just oh you know what um you know i mean elon said this a

00:15:17.420 while back you know he's gotten a little bit better over the last couple you know recent months

00:15:21.080 but you know during the you know christmas last year him and vivek you know tag teaming and

00:15:25.580 basically as as heritage americans are celebrating the birth of our savior and they're like hey you

00:15:30.580 know what uh you know would be great let's interrupt your uh your christian celebration

00:15:34.660 this christmas and uh and you know and push for a bunch of h1b visas let's crash out in the most

00:15:41.180 spectacular way possible and they use this this tired old trope and they said um we need to stop

00:15:46.860 illegal immigration, but we need even more legal immigration. No, we do not need more paperwork

00:15:53.600 Americans. Paperwork Americans are not American, right? If you want to talk about, well, legal is

00:15:59.960 fine. Ilhan Omar is a legal citizen. Not only that, she's actually a civil magistrate, but she's

00:16:08.260 Somalian. She worships foreign demon gods. She married her brother temporarily in order to get

00:16:15.500 that citizenship legally legally and and she's her heart is is for foreign gods and a foreign

00:16:22.940 people she has said expressly multiple times uh that her devotion and what she's trying to do is

00:16:28.880 to help somalia right to have be an outpost in america a very rich powerful country in such a

00:16:35.700 way that it benefits somalia and to open the door for a bunch more somalians to come here we don't

00:16:42.040 need, that kind of legal immigrant is still a net negative, massive net negative on our country.

00:16:50.060 So it's not just stop illegal immigration, but let's have even more legal immigration. No,

00:16:55.560 stop it all. It all has to stop. Yep. Now, thankfully, the church gets this. The church

00:17:01.780 understands grace does not abolish nature, that having a country, having natural relations,

00:17:06.940 natural affections, it's a good thing. You add grace on top of it, on top of it, and you elevate

00:17:12.640 No, the church doesn't get this at all.

00:17:14.520 And we're going to elevate.

00:17:15.400 I'm going to read this Blaze article.

00:17:16.820 It's not that long.

00:17:17.660 The church in America is quite literally retarded.

00:17:20.780 It's sad.

00:17:21.660 It's like in Egypt, Israel.

00:17:23.560 It's like, man, they're wandering through the wilderness.

00:17:25.360 And it's like, yeah, and they deserved it.

00:17:27.820 How could they be here?

00:17:28.780 How could they be so rebellious?

00:17:29.940 And then you turn and look around.

00:17:31.140 And sometimes, of course, look at yourself.

00:17:32.720 You're like, oh, my goodness, 10 years ago.

00:17:34.960 So glad the Lord is patient with me.

00:17:36.320 But then you also look at the church,

00:17:37.780 and you kind of get God's frustration with Israel.

00:17:39.900 First with yourself, but also to the church.

00:17:41.680 We should be convicted ourselves. But that said, we all have sin. But there is a difference if

00:17:46.560 you're 30 years old and saying, I look at myself 10 years ago, and so I'm sympathetic to the person

00:17:52.600 who's 70. It's like, okay, but you were saying these things 10 years ago. They're still saying

00:17:57.780 them today. 10 years ago for you, you were 20 years old. 10 years ago for them, they were still

00:18:02.420 60 and a grandfather who should know better. There is a difference. All right. So this is a story

00:18:08.040 from blaze media church joins persecution of texas business owner who criticized h1b visas

00:18:14.560 daniel keen did not expect a post on x formerly twitter to derail his life the small business

00:18:19.700 owner posted a video of an indian block party taking over an entire street of his north texas

00:18:25.680 suburb and expressed frustration at the rapid demographic and cultural changes sweeping through

00:18:30.200 the large swaths of the greater dallas fort worth metroplex for the record in my neighborhood exactly

00:18:34.640 this has happened sometimes i'll like pull out it'll be a friday and there'll be 20 30 indians

00:18:39.000 kind of gaggled all around at the end of a street but men will be wearing some type of like white

00:18:43.240 dress or white uh robe whatever it would be dress is fine you're like dress works i think you said

00:18:48.660 it just in the middle of our in the neighborhood and it's like you want to roll down the windows

00:18:52.280 like oh are we lost uh this is america we don't do this here right and so he had actually posted

00:18:57.560 a video of it and he said this we have to cancel the h-1b's that's the h-1b skilled worker visa

00:19:03.940 program i want my kids to grow up in america and not india daniel wrote in the since deleted post

00:19:10.700 that's the post yeah that's the post super controversial i look at that and i'm like

00:19:17.740 if if you if you're still taking offense over that of course antifa of course leftists of

00:19:23.860 course communists of course people who hate christ and hate our country but christian worship

00:19:29.600 leaders like celebrity christian worship leaders who are now pastoring the church hopping on the

00:19:34.920 bandwagon as this man's being beaten down by the world and saying uh we'll join in join in on the

00:19:40.620 side of christ nope join in with the world and destroy a christian brother and and kick him

00:19:45.540 while he's already down he's already hurt with his business and we'll go ahead and add excommunication

00:19:50.360 on top of it resign listen to this so the post went viral on x and all hell broke loose as

00:19:56.360 previously reported by blaze news keen and his family were subject to doxing and threats so this

00:20:00.900 is people coming to your house this is people calling you i'm gonna kill you and your family

00:20:04.860 it's no joke his business was review bombed so the way he makes money to put food in his children's

00:20:10.440 mouth food on the table review bomb don't go to this coffee shop don't go here this person's

00:20:14.820 terrible for the record it's like oh bad reviews who cares no that that literally can crush a

00:20:19.860 business yep yeah so like bombing a virtual bomb of reviews on someone's business is not much

00:20:26.660 different than actually physically bombing their property nope someone claiming to have access to

00:20:31.840 millions of indian american contacts apparently tried to extort him for twenty thousand dollars

00:20:36.560 in other words they said i've got millions of people that will continue to make your life hell

00:20:40.420 and you need to give me twenty thousand dollars and relating to immigration don't let it be lost

00:20:45.860 These are people of a different ethnicity,

00:20:48.120 a different race in America,

00:20:50.040 that they are ready,

00:20:51.300 according to the scammer,

00:20:52.680 they are ready to do work on them.

00:20:54.020 They're like, give us the word.

00:20:55.380 There's someone who doesn't want us here.

00:20:56.900 There's someone protesting our presence.

00:20:59.040 Tell us when,

00:20:59.900 and we will destroy his business.

00:21:01.620 We will threaten him.

00:21:02.640 We will drive his family out.

00:21:04.340 You can't share a country with these people.

00:21:06.180 No, you can't.

00:21:06.960 Keene's Business, Boundaries Coffee,

00:21:08.360 if you're in Frisco, Texas,

00:21:09.520 definitely go there, support him.

00:21:11.060 Continues to weather the storm,

00:21:12.320 and Google has shut down reviews for the business,

00:21:13.940 putting a stop to the lies, threats, and insults

00:21:15.880 that had flooded in. The backlash was not

00:21:17.800 contained to Keen's professional life

00:21:19.820 in the midst of dealing with the attacks on his business.

00:21:21.740 The owner of his gym decided

00:21:23.760 to weigh in on the issue by

00:21:25.640 revoking his membership. He was just a member

00:21:27.660 at a CrossFit gym. The owner comes in.

00:21:30.160 He cancels it. I'm not going to read all

00:21:31.560 about that because that's not the point.

00:21:33.340 Even your gym is like, you know what?

00:21:35.600 Just your mere presence here.

00:21:37.820 Just touching, walking around, touching

00:21:39.740 some of the weights.

00:21:42.260 We can't have those races.

00:21:43.500 CrossFit confirmed gay.

00:21:44.240 We can't have those racist cooties in our gym.

00:21:46.520 Right.

00:21:46.880 You're gone.

00:21:47.800 CrossFit confirmed gay.

00:21:49.340 Many are saying.

00:21:50.320 CrossFit has always been gay, but yeah.

00:21:52.260 All right, here we go.

00:21:52.780 Things continued to get worse when Keene's church decided to interrogate him on his immigration stance.

00:21:58.740 The elders at the trails church called him about his initial post, telling him to repent,

00:22:03.920 and that the post was, get ready, you've never heard this one before, uncharitable.

00:22:08.820 Keene, who deleted the post shortly after went viral due to the stress it was causing his family,

00:22:12.080 did not disavow his position on immigration and the H-1B visa in particular.

00:22:17.480 Praise God for courage.

00:22:18.620 Church called him, rebuked him, tried to get him to stand back down.

00:22:22.100 He said, nope, I'm not going to do it.

00:22:23.820 He reached out to me.

00:22:25.780 He seems like a good guy.

00:22:27.100 Seems like he loves the Lord.

00:22:28.720 Daniel said that's when the problems with the church really escalated.

00:22:31.960 Keene and his wife, who was eight months pregnant at the time.

00:22:35.100 So it's like, all right, your wife's about to give birth.

00:22:38.380 This could maybe wait.

00:22:39.400 We'll let it settle down.

00:22:40.280 We'll let you manage your business.

00:22:41.460 No.

00:22:42.080 keen and his wife were called in for a meeting with all the elders and staff who could be there

00:22:46.360 he recalled this time they weren't just concerned about one post they just hammered me for hours he

00:22:51.040 said the elders had apparently gone through the last three years of keen's x account looking for

00:22:55.560 problematic posts keen said they brought up two posts they found never heard this one before

00:23:00.000 concerning keen described the meeting as confusing the goal post got shifted significantly i there's

00:23:07.380 a lot of guys that's what they'll say is first you come in and oh we were concerned about this

00:23:11.580 we just want this and then well we want this and this and this the goal post got shifted

00:23:17.640 significantly he said keen claimed he was unable to get a straight answer from the elders on the

00:23:21.440 actual substance of his offense many such cases on one hand they are saying the issue is not the

00:23:26.320 position itself it's how i expressed it this is a tweet that's like two sentences he said but then

00:23:32.360 we've had three hours of phone calls and they're just hammering me on the position itself yep keen

00:23:38.080 He requested that the elders put his offenses in writing to eliminate uncertainty, but they refused.

00:23:43.220 He expressed his confusion to the elders about the nature of his supposed offense and what he was supposed to do about it.

00:23:48.380 And you referenced the leader of this church.

00:23:50.800 One of the pastors is Matt Boswell.

00:23:52.720 So this is, again, the Trails Church up in Frisco, Texas.

00:23:55.660 Matt Boswell sings a really popular worship song, His Mercy Is More.

00:23:59.880 It turns out there's not a lot of mercy at his church, but this is a song you for sure heard if you were around.

00:24:03.960 There's mercy for sodomites.

00:24:06.320 There's mercy for those who are pressuring and trying to trans children.

00:24:11.600 There's mercy for pedophiles, right?

00:24:13.460 There's mercy for those people.

00:24:15.280 There's not mercy for a conservative, traditional Christian brother who believes everything that everyone always believed until about 50 years ago.

00:24:25.260 That's where there's not a single ounce of mercy.

00:24:28.000 And speaking, here's the deal.

00:24:29.460 It's like, oh, but if we did that, then the left would do this.

00:24:32.880 Or we can't, you know, we can't stoop to the same level.

00:24:35.300 actually yes we can and we must this church what's the name of the church again trails church trails

00:24:41.580 church it needs to be review bombed faithful conservative biblical christians we should have

00:24:48.360 hundreds if not thousands of reviews and as a loving warning because there are christians in

00:24:54.000 different places always looking for a new church every single christian in their town and surrounding

00:25:00.060 area should know this is a pathetic, ungodly, un-Christlike, scripture-hating church. They

00:25:09.020 despise courage. They despise tradition. If you are an inch to the right of a blue-haired leftist,

00:25:16.340 they will crush you, crush your wife, crush your children. No one should ever attend that church

00:25:22.660 again. It should be review-bombed. And the pastor, his music should be boycotted. If you have his,

00:25:28.320 you should throw it out. We must teach people a lesson. That's how the left won. They won over

00:25:35.980 the course of 40 decades by applying, not just legal, eventually it became legal, but first it

00:25:41.420 was cultural pressure. Don't you dare say that. That's racist. Don't you dare say that. It's

00:25:47.120 bigoted. Don't you dare say that. It's insensitive. And they used cultural pressure to make people

00:25:53.820 feel as though they were mean, as though they weren't being kind. And little by little by little,

00:26:01.080 they pushed Christians into the margins. That's how the left want. And if you want the culture

00:26:07.380 of our country here in America to be a Christian country where your children, where you feel safe

00:26:13.060 as a parent for your children to go play outside, like the way that we grew up, where they can ride

00:26:20.060 bikes with their friends in the neighborhood, not have to worry about monsters doing terrible,

00:26:25.620 unspeakable things, where you can go to your downtown and go shopping without a million

00:26:31.640 different rainbow flags and all the propaganda indoctrinating your children, where you can go

00:26:37.100 out safely in public. If you want that, you have to pressure. You need to pressure the left,

00:26:43.080 but you certainly, as a Christian, should pressure churches that are siding with the left.

00:26:49.260 This Trails Church in Frisco, Texas needs to learn a lesson.

00:26:56.360 They need to come to a point where they absolutely tremble at the memory of the day that they made this decision.

00:27:07.700 All those elders who side with this should resign in disgrace.

00:27:12.900 Immense pressure must be applied.

00:27:15.660 So remember, the elders, they wouldn't put in writing what his offense was.

00:27:18.560 they harassed him for hours. According to Keene, they wanted him to apologize for his original

00:27:22.880 post showing the Indian bloc party on his street and abandon his position on Indian immigration.

00:27:27.700 When he respected their right to disagree with him, Keene told Blaze News he did not think

00:27:33.660 apologizing for the post was appropriate. Praise God. As far as the content, I stand behind it.

00:27:38.200 That's the policy position I stand behind. When asked how serious the offense was, the elders of

00:27:42.700 the church told Keene he was on the path of discipline, meaning he could be removed from

00:27:46.600 membership if he continued on his present course, he explained. Keene described the removal process

00:27:50.920 as a very serious step in a Baptist church. They're basically saying, we don't think you're

00:27:55.220 a Christian anymore because you haven't repented of sin, he said. Keene left the meeting still

00:28:00.200 confused shortly after a friend sent him an episode of the Kings Hall podcast discussing

00:28:03.540 immigration and H-1B visas. Keene found the episode insightful and posted a clip of it,

00:28:07.960 along with the following questions. What would get you in more trouble at your church?

00:28:11.560 Significant doctrinal error on the Trinity or opposing immigration to the harm of your neighbor?

00:28:16.860 Keene said he knew the post would upset the church elders.

00:28:19.600 He did try to reach out privately at first just to say,

00:28:22.260 hey, hear me out on this.

00:28:23.340 After he posted the clip, the elders asked him to come in with his wife for another meeting, he claimed.

00:28:27.800 Keene said he declined to bring his wife.

00:28:29.620 Good man.

00:28:30.340 Why would you need to meet with my wife?

00:28:31.460 What does my wife have to do with this?

00:28:32.860 He wondered.

00:28:33.720 When he got to the meeting, the elders formally asked Keene to leave the church.

00:28:36.660 Keene suspected he would be asked to leave, and that posting the podcast clip was guaranteed it.

00:28:41.220 I knew I was poking the bear a little bit, he acknowledged.

00:28:43.740 Still, Keene says he does not regret posting the clip

00:28:46.240 or maintaining his position on immigration.

00:28:48.360 I'm trying to draw out the real issue here, he said.

00:28:50.500 What are the values of the church?

00:28:51.540 Are they doctrinal, spiritual, or is it public policy

00:28:54.800 with regards to immigration?

00:28:56.920 The Trails Church did not respond to a request for comment

00:28:58.980 from Blaze News.

00:29:00.680 So there you have it.

00:29:02.220 A good man holding a Christian,

00:29:05.080 thoroughly Christian position on public policy,

00:29:08.340 kicked out of his church with his family.

00:29:10.400 in the course of this is not something like over six months they met with him they counseled they

00:29:16.480 put in writing uh no in the space of i think less than two weeks bottle to throttle all the way

00:29:21.940 you're kicked out of the church so sorry about your business you probably struggling to feed

00:29:25.400 your kids oh the community doesn't like you oh you're in danger tough luck and also uh get the

00:29:31.960 heck out of here right business is being crushed it's your livelihood the way that you feed your

00:29:36.820 family, your kids. In addition, you're getting death threats. And so your physical, not just

00:29:42.300 your livelihood, but also your life itself is in danger. The life of your wife, life of your kids

00:29:47.680 sounds like you're going through a really hard time. Let's go ahead and excommunicate you.

00:29:52.980 These are wicked, wicked men. Every single elder at that church who sided with this decision

00:29:59.680 is a wicked man. And it needs to be talked about. It needs to come to the point where it would become

00:30:06.680 unthinkable, but that every other limp-wristed, you know, every other limp-wristed pastor and

00:30:13.400 church in America, that they would hear a bunch of people podcasting and tweeting and saying the

00:30:19.140 things that we're saying right now to the point that they would be terrified to make that kind

00:30:24.360 of decision. That's how you pressure people. You have to scare them. Are you looking at Daniel

00:30:29.460 King? Yep. He's in the chat. Yeah. Daniel, thanks for jumping in. We appreciate it. If there's

00:30:34.700 anything you want to say, just put it in the chat and we'll read it on the episode. We'd be happy

00:30:39.440 to do it. Honored for you to tune in and really proud of you, man. Really proud of you for standing

00:30:45.540 your ground. And just for the record, I don't know if you even think this, you probably don't

00:30:48.980 need to hear it from me, but deleting the tweet is not, it's not an L. It's not a mistake, right?

00:30:55.580 You're a husband, you're a father, you're getting death threats, your business is being crushed.

00:30:59.780 So to say, look, I need to simply be shrewd, be wise, and make some of this stop, to delete

00:31:08.720 the tweet so that some of the fire dies down, but to still do the right thing when questioned

00:31:14.740 by others, especially for public articles like Blaze and things like that, and with

00:31:18.540 your elders, of course, with all the meetings and all the struggle sessions, in terms of

00:31:22.560 your position itself to still hold the line, and it seems very clear that you did that.

00:31:26.740 So I'm deleting the tweet because I need my business to survive and I need to physically

00:31:31.520 survive with the death threats and things like that.

00:31:33.840 But my position is not changing.

00:31:35.800 And anyone who asks, I'm going to make it clear that I'm not backing down my position.

00:31:40.080 I just want you to know that that is perfectly, perfectly permissible, perfectly reasonable.

00:31:45.860 I may, you know, I usually leave the tweet up because I kind of get a little bit of a

00:31:52.140 kick out of just enraging people.

00:31:53.920 Like I do a little poking to the bear myself.

00:31:55.620 is going to be writing an article about you, Joel. You should delete the tweet. I think I'll

00:32:01.460 leave the tweet and tweet a few more. But that said, I also don't own a business that's getting

00:32:07.340 bond by review. It's different, right? I'm able to do what I'm able to do because of the generous

00:32:12.320 support and prayers and love of all the listeners with Right Response Ministries. And so if I was

00:32:17.860 in a different position, I would probably do the same thing. But way to go, deleting the tweet,

00:32:22.900 but holding to your position.

00:32:25.540 Really, really impressed by that,

00:32:27.520 and we're honored that you tuned in today.

00:32:29.500 Thanks.

00:32:29.840 And I will say this, and then we'll close the segment out.

00:32:32.140 This is far from the only case.

00:32:34.000 So it's not as though this is being highlighted

00:32:35.400 because for the first time in 20 years,

00:32:38.000 a Christian church, supposedly Christian church,

00:32:40.360 has excommunicated a faithful man

00:32:42.500 for being one step to the right.

00:32:44.220 This is honestly going on probably all over the nation.

00:32:46.760 I think between me and you, Joel,

00:32:48.200 we could name just real names of real churches,

00:32:50.640 probably over 100 guys.

00:32:51.880 i got kicked out here i got struggle sessions here i got asked to leave here and all really

00:32:56.180 is all of them being similar cases to this yep um so we're not talking about oh man there's an

00:33:01.300 epidemic of you know a bunch of guys who are being kicked out because um because they said that you

00:33:07.420 know every black person in america should be killed no we're not talking about that right like

00:33:12.960 that's not what we're talking about guys who are saying um well according to the fbi the statistics

00:33:18.900 for crime, it is important to recognize that per capita, it's not equal. That there is minorities,

00:33:27.400 particularly black people, are more per capita, not each and every individual, but per capita,

00:33:33.540 more violent. And that's something that we should probably be aware of. Or our country is being

00:33:38.540 eroded in its demographics. It's changing the culture. It's changing the religion of our

00:33:42.420 country. We don't need a bunch of Indians on H-1B visas. Or it's those kinds of things. Or even a

00:33:48.640 simple statement like, it's okay to be white, right? The ADL literally labeled, it's okay to

00:33:53.500 be white, that phrase, that statement as hate speech. But here's the thing, you expect that

00:33:59.140 from the Jewish Christ-hating ADL. But then you have reformed churches, not just, I'm not talking

00:34:07.180 about Joel Osteen's church or Stephen Furt, and they will crack down on someone because they made

00:34:13.720 a video showcasing and esteeming, you know, European heritage. We're saying that it's good

00:34:19.740 to be white or it's okay to be white. So Wes is not exaggerating. I'm sure there's probably

00:34:25.320 thousands of cases, but there's at least a hundred that you and I personally know of,

00:34:30.460 right? Personally know of just in the last maybe year, year and a half.

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00:36:58.120 joel did you know that while me and you and all faithful christians believe in the trinity

00:37:04.600 one god three persons the father son and holy spirit did you know that's actually very similar

00:37:08.980 to hinduism in which it's a few more all right so somewhere in the 300 million range right yeah

00:37:15.360 but it's still monotheism we believe in the trinity they believe kind of similar so it's

00:37:20.440 not three persons there's 300 million persons it sounds very similar to you three million

00:37:25.160 i said that in the cold open it's 300 million i i literally don't like there's different at a

00:37:30.400 certain point it's like they're all synchristicized and they blend together like that's what people

00:37:34.040 don't get it like christianity if anyone's tried to read the quran it is slop there is no systematic

00:37:39.720 theology of the quran where you're able to actually take the doctrines espoused and fit them together

00:37:44.440 so they're non-contradictory it's like take the psalms uh put them in a terrible language uh arabic

00:37:50.320 and then badly translate them out and well in the case of the quran you know with the bible you have

00:37:55.920 40 human authors over the course of 1500 years divinely inspired by the holy spirit in the case

00:38:01.120 of the quran you have one human author no divine inspiration and that one human happens to be

00:38:07.760 a pedophilic goat herder you know so it's like it kind of checks out it's like hey this like

00:38:13.320 this is really bad writing like who wrote this a goat herder uh who uh had a seven-year-old wife

00:38:20.180 oh okay okay my favorite tweet is uh so i'm as a christian supposed to believe that allah is the

00:38:25.520 true god and he watched christianity conquer the world for 600 years he's like all right i'm gonna

00:38:30.140 do it i'm gonna speak and he chooses just a 54 year old uh nerd a retard and a pedophile he's

00:38:37.220 like this is my guy this is my problem like that that was his grand plan he's like all right

00:38:41.560 christianity's winning i gotta do something i've got my guy no so i'm speaking of the veck ramaswamy

00:38:48.760 darling honestly a year and a half ago there was a lot of a lot of young guys they're like vivek

00:38:53.420 is it they're like sure don't like the hindu part but he's doing good things on taxes and being able

00:38:58.700 to afford a home and and hey he says god is real and there's two genders i'm thinking this is our

00:39:03.880 guy oh chat are we back yeah uh we we've got uh we've got a an indian man who scammed a bunch of

00:39:11.720 people in the pharmaceutical world who uh worships 300 million you know hindu demon gods

00:39:17.520 But he says he likes the Declaration of Independence.

00:39:20.240 Chad, are we back?

00:39:22.020 You're not exaggerating about the scamming.

00:39:24.100 The way Vivek was able to afford to run for president, to garner all the media attention,

00:39:29.300 was that he founded a biosciences, a biotech startup called Rovient Biosciences.

00:39:34.780 And he took an Alzheimer's drug.

00:39:36.140 The way these things work is nobody knows if a drug is going to have clinical usefulness.

00:39:40.040 You can test it, but there's no guarantee that it'll actually solve Alzheimer's or solve this disease or solve that disease.

00:39:46.180 So every drug is just basically you pour millions of dollars into it, and you've got, honestly, a 10% chance that actually gets approved.

00:39:53.960 So he takes his biosciences company, he buys a failed Alzheimer's drug, and he hypes it up using his mom, among other things, and has this big IPO.

00:40:01.760 So you've got this company with a promising first drug.

00:40:04.640 Hey, if this passes clinical trials, this could be the first drug to read Alzheimer's and think of the revenue.

00:40:09.140 So he has this big public offering.

00:40:10.760 It's publicly owned.

00:40:12.040 And, of course, the drug fails.

00:40:13.380 He himself, though, now millionaire.

00:40:15.820 and uses that to launch into a political career and in a very indian way he can kind of he's you

00:40:20.900 know sticks his finger in the wind okay where's the wind going he detected about 2020 2021 he said

00:40:26.360 uh hey uh the woke is kind of it's it's going away right like uh it's being put away it's not

00:40:32.080 really popular anymore i can kind of see the culture is shifting as we hopped on board he

00:40:36.640 wrote a book uh anti i think he called it like woke capitalism or whatever grifted his way to

00:40:41.080 about 8% of the primary vote in Iowa, realized he was never going to make it, dropped out.

00:40:46.960 But he used that.

00:40:47.880 The point is, well, why does that matter?

00:40:49.500 Okay, Indians scammed someone, must be a day that ends in Y.

00:40:52.180 He's used that to launch to a bid for governor in Ohio.

00:40:57.300 And here he is at a town hall.

00:40:58.880 This is from, I can't remember if it was from farther back, but the clip just came out this

00:41:03.140 week, or it was just this week, where he answers a question from a Christian.

00:41:07.640 Different Christians were actually asking him.

00:41:09.400 There's a young man named Jeremy Carl.

00:41:11.580 Hey, you're a Hindu.

00:41:13.080 America was not a Hindu country.

00:41:14.540 It's not a Muslim country.

00:41:15.420 It's not a Jewish country.

00:41:16.740 America was a Christian country, and it's made up still primarily of Christians.

00:41:21.640 So why do you, as a Hindu, what makes you qualify to be our governor?

00:41:26.920 This is our religion, and you're not this.

00:41:29.360 And listen to his answer when someone presses him on that.

00:41:31.600 You're a Hindu, not a Christian like us.

00:41:35.060 Now, let me just ask you, because I know that may be a hard thing to process.

00:41:38.920 What's your faith?

00:41:40.620 I'm a Christian.

00:41:41.820 I'm a follower of Jesus.

00:41:42.900 Great.

00:41:43.460 Do you believe in the Holy Trinity, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit?

00:41:48.780 I think a lot of people here do.

00:41:51.260 Good.

00:41:51.620 And that doesn't make you a polytheist, does it?

00:41:54.860 Probably not, no.

00:41:55.780 Great.

00:41:56.020 Because I think this is a great spiritual question.

00:41:58.320 There's good dialogue here.

00:42:00.120 Every religion has its reconciling of the one and the many.

00:42:05.060 And so in my faith, I believe there's one true God.

00:42:08.220 He resides in all of us.

00:42:11.600 So I picked that clip.

00:42:13.380 There's a longer, like, five-minute clip out there.

00:42:15.680 I didn't want to subject you guys to it, honestly.

00:42:17.400 I didn't want to sit here for five minutes, first to listen to it, and then to listen to it again.

00:42:21.780 I didn't want you to have that.

00:42:22.860 But elsewhere, he says, I'm ethically a monotheist.

00:42:25.360 He kind of tries to do this thing.

00:42:26.420 He says, look, God, sure, the one and the many.

00:42:29.080 Now, I don't know about you, like, my family, like, we have four people in it.

00:42:32.440 So we're one family with my last name, but then there's also multiple people within that.

00:42:37.740 I feel like that's a little bit different than one family, 300 million people.

00:42:42.280 How about you?

00:42:43.120 Yeah, that's quite different.

00:42:45.240 Yeah, he just, he doesn't know what he's talking about.

00:42:48.360 Vivek doesn't understand historic Christianity.

00:42:50.920 He doesn't understand theology proper, doctrine of God.

00:42:54.120 He doesn't understand any of these things.

00:42:56.020 He doesn't understand that our God is the most pure spirit without body parts and passions.

00:43:01.140 we believe in divine simplicity we believe in divine impassibility we believe that god is one

00:43:07.180 in essence and eternally three in persons he doesn't understand the processions of the trinity

00:43:12.360 he doesn't know what he's talking about all this has been outlined not recently all these things

00:43:17.820 have been outlined going back to the second third fourth century um and and this is basic christian

00:43:25.660 doctrine basic christian doctrine now there was a time where people fought over it areas you know

00:43:30.560 versus Athanasius and these kinds of things but this was settled very very early on within the

00:43:35.920 first couple hundred years of you know the start of Christianity and has been settled dogma for

00:43:44.360 you know 1800 1700 years now it's not the same so to say hey hi fellow Americans hi fellow

00:43:53.100 Christians I'm just like you see my boot and Texas jacket pretty cool huh I'm just like you look I'm

00:43:58.620 going to the rodeo. I believe that there's one God inside of all of us. No, you don't. But what

00:44:05.640 he's doing, I mean, politics really is kind of perfect for Vivek because he's an Indian scammer.

00:44:11.960 And so he's like, hey, you know, I did some scamming when it came to Alzheimer's, you know,

00:44:16.280 and pharmaceuticals. Now let's do some scamming as I run for political office. But at a certain

00:44:22.680 point, heritage Americans and Christian Americans, more importantly, need to stand up and say,

00:44:27.520 go home to ohio no go home home home home home yep with lots of other people who worship 300

00:44:36.220 million gods people just like you and uh if you want to watch the full so again i mentioned a

00:44:40.460 young man this wasn't him in the clip but he did a great job interrogating him more at length

00:44:44.020 jeremy carl uh spelled with a c so c-a-r-l just search jeremy carl the fact it's been going viral

00:44:50.520 and so i think uh speaking of people that don't understand theology let me just say it got got

00:44:55.860 to give jeremy a shout out uh he reached out to me personally as well the last couple days and uh

00:45:00.720 he's an avid listener to right response he follows the show listens jeremy carl is our guy and just

00:45:06.820 for the record there are two jeremy carl so it gets a little bit confusing so there's jeremy carl

00:45:10.960 carl who wrote uh the unprotected class yep and did a really good job in terms of um all you know

00:45:18.180 keeping all the receipts and different things from universities to litigation laws um and the way

00:45:24.140 that white people actually have been discriminated against on the books, not just culturally, but on

00:45:30.940 the books from universities to lawfare to these kinds of things. Jeremy Carl did a really great

00:45:36.520 job writing that book. But that's an older Jeremy Carl, who is the author of The Unprotected Class

00:45:42.820 in reference to whites talking about anti-white hatred. But this is a Jeremy Carl who looks like

00:45:49.080 he couldn't be more than 18 19 years old he's a young man yep but he's christian he loves jesus

00:45:55.680 he's right wing and he has courage god bless him and he just exposed in many ways veck is not

00:46:02.440 compatible and we'll see he'll probably win governorship but it's probably building up

00:46:06.480 hopefully a base of people to say you know two years ago i thought this guy was great oh yeah

00:46:11.460 we need to get rid of the woe you're right there's two genders to build up to say wait a second sure

00:46:16.200 all that is true and also you're not a christian this is a christian nation this is a european

00:46:22.140 nation you just this is not you it's not your country our governor yeah that's right so i think

00:46:26.460 part of it is you know a lot of people were excited when you know vivek was in the primaries

00:46:30.840 and those kinds of things um and you know and i i took a fairly strong stance against it because

00:46:36.580 he's indian and hindu um and so i was like no that's that's just not a good fit i remember one

00:46:42.160 of the arguments that i made people saying yeah you know like christians good brothers and saying

00:46:45.580 like yeah he may be indian and hindu uh but um you know he's he's good on you know these policies

00:46:52.460 and he has traditional values and blah blah blah blah blah and i remember saying look um

00:46:58.720 this is pandora's box um it's the same thing as a woman president right so it's like you you know

00:47:05.300 one day god forbid i hope it doesn't happen but one day we we may come to a place where

00:47:09.500 you finally come down to um to two candidates right the dim and the republican and uh and one

00:47:17.200 of them is like a gavin newsome sort you know who's just atrocious just an absolute liberal

00:47:22.820 you know communist monster and then the other one is like a sarah palin type you know um and here's

00:47:30.120 the thing i i understand that that will be a difficult decision it was easier with vivek for

00:47:34.920 back at the time because it wasn't it wasn't down to you know the final two and there were there

00:47:40.480 were better candidates you know that could be you know get the republican ticket but my point is

00:47:45.920 the moment that we vote and actually elect a woman as president and I could see that being

00:47:52.200 the scenarios like conservative woman or you know progressive man and in that scenario never I know

00:47:59.380 but in that scenario I would be very sympathetic so I'm not even saying that I wouldn't I wouldn't

00:48:04.900 to understand why i i would in that scenario i would uh likely just abstain to vote i just

00:48:09.900 want to vote but i would understand why some would vote for the conservative woman saying yes you

00:48:14.560 know while you know articulating i i wish that it was a man i wish that it wasn't one but here

00:48:19.340 would be my fear you get a good woman a good woman um breaks the glass ceiling as the first

00:48:24.940 woman president of the united states but once that glass ceiling is broken i view it as like

00:48:29.700 Pandora's box. Then what you'll get is a dozen Jezebels following up. And that was kind of part

00:48:37.400 of my thing with Vivek was, this is a concept that's hard for people to understand because

00:48:43.260 they'll say, Joe Biden is not a Christian. Of course he's not a Christian. Joe Biden loves

00:48:48.200 the blood of unborn babies. Joe Biden is an avid, avid abortion supporter. Joe Biden can say he's

00:48:55.800 catholic all day long i i don't care like he like joe biden is not a christian right um and yet this

00:49:03.260 is hard for you know true christians to grasp and i get it because we want purity of of of both life

00:49:09.640 and doctrine and joe biden doesn't have either however even the case of joe biden it's not a

00:49:15.280 coincidence that every single president that we've had in the history of our country thus far

00:49:20.840 from the very beginning for 250 years has at least professed christ now that doesn't mean they've all

00:49:27.380 been actual christians that they've all been regenerate of course not of course not but the

00:49:32.340 fact that that all of them profess christ so so just like uh they've all been men but you get one

00:49:37.700 good woman but it opens the box for now that that that bridge has been crossed and now you have a

00:49:43.840 bunch of it becomes normal uh likewise if you bridge the gap on um oh we're now going to have

00:49:50.680 an indian man it'd be two bridges in that case so not just a woman but you'd have a man who is

00:49:56.620 not heritage american he's indian and you'd also have a man who doesn't profess to be a christian

00:50:02.880 he's hindu and and so to open that door pandora's box for the first time in 250 years i don't care

00:50:11.260 what he says against wokeness it's not worth it it's not worth it so that's that's why i i was

00:50:17.960 against it you know a year and a half ago i understand why some people were for it um but i'm

00:50:22.480 i i feel like we dodged a major bullet um i do not think america dodged the bullet i don't think

00:50:28.380 that ohio will you know who did not dodge a bullet going into our final story and then we'll get to

00:50:33.740 some of the super chats this is another big story from the week so portland and chicago uh there

00:50:39.220 have been a number of demonstrations against ice immigration and customs enforcement we've seen of

00:50:44.300 fourth of course clashes of rioters this happened in LA and there's an iconic image and you'll see

00:50:50.040 it here on your screen I'll describe it for if you're listening where you have a pastor in

00:50:54.320 Presbyterian garbs he has a clerical collar on he's wearing a black pants black shirt and he's

00:50:59.880 with the sign that's demonstrating against ice you have on the left side here you have United

00:51:04.680 States domestic soldiers he's doing the dab you have your military he's what he's doing a dab

00:51:09.060 yep he's doing he's doing a dabbing he's actually uh he's getting shot in the face with

00:51:14.120 a pepper spray it's either a pepper bomb or pepper spray and there's a lot of outcry

00:51:18.580 i cannot believe this like look at this you have here in trump's america

00:51:22.680 i i had a little bit of a personal outcry i was like i cannot believe that they only use pepper

00:51:27.640 spray uh gassing pastors america what have you become and um just for some context so this is

00:51:36.320 again from chicago he is the pastor of a pc usa church so this is not the i struggle to say

00:51:43.580 conservative but the pca would be the more conservative of the two and then you have the

00:51:47.220 pc usa which has been fully progressive for about 40 years at this point the pastor of first

00:51:52.340 presbyterian chicago which is a tragedy like that church was i'm sure originally a solid faithful

00:51:58.220 protestant presbyterian church uh that is now fully affirming of lgbtq this is from their website

00:52:04.520 everyone reflects the image of God no exceptions for us inclusion means loving everyone because of

00:52:10.480 who they are not despite it we welcome everyone to full and equal participation in the church

00:52:15.540 embracing people of all races cultures abilities sexual orientation and genders so this is not a

00:52:22.480 pastor he's got you know like someone in his congregation he cares about and he's like look

00:52:29.380 I understand. I'll go out and help you out.

00:52:33.680 No, this is a fully affirming, spiritually if not literally, gay man

00:52:38.980 wearing the vestments, wearing the garb pertaining to a pastor

00:52:43.480 of a Protestant historic church in America

00:52:46.260 marching against, fighting against God's servant for justice.

00:52:52.140 That's right.

00:52:52.900 And he, resultingly, got hit in the face with some pepper spray.

00:52:58.060 God bless.

00:52:58.500 Nine months ago, right here in this room, we told you, hey, the state, there's going to come times, it's happened before, it'll happen again.

00:53:05.720 The state has a role when the church steps badly out of line to come in and correct it.

00:53:10.760 That's right.

00:53:11.100 I do not mean soldiers get up.

00:53:12.620 All right, we're distributing the Lord's Supper.

00:53:14.840 That's not what we're talking about.

00:53:16.160 The Reformers spoke of this.

00:53:17.920 We're not talking about the elements of worship.

00:53:19.840 The clergy cannot make arrests.

00:53:22.560 No.

00:53:22.780 And the civil magistrate cannot administer the sacrament or preach on the Lord's Day.

00:53:28.120 That's not what we're talking about.

00:53:30.220 However, Francis Turretin, I almost have the quote memorized from Stephen Wolf's The Case

00:53:34.840 for Christian Nationalism.

00:53:36.020 When worship degrades, the Christian prince, he says, should reform it.

00:53:39.300 When the external parts of worship, pride flags are flying out front, women are standing

00:53:44.720 behind pulpits, churches affirm gay lifestyles.

00:53:48.460 When that happens, over and over again, we did multiple episodes on this, over and over

00:53:52.520 again in history, the tool that God has used to get the church back in line and to knock it off

00:53:58.320 has been the state coming in and using their force to say, cut it out. That's right. And when we did

00:54:04.220 those episodes at the time, it was this very pastor in that picture who was actually doing

00:54:10.780 podcasts, slandering us and telling us that we were heretical and out of line, right? Oh wait,

00:54:16.440 that was James White. Oh, nevermind. I guess y'all weren't ready for it then.

00:54:21.960 They weren't ready.

00:54:23.000 You don't like this, but your kids are going to love it.

00:54:25.360 It's one of those situations.

00:54:26.800 So that's, I mean, like you have to, these guys are not our allies.

00:54:30.800 Oh my goodness, well, it's a Presbyterian.

00:54:32.300 It's just, no, no, no.

00:54:33.220 You have got to understand where the battle lines have fallen.

00:54:36.480 And in this case, I mean, you're literally talking about a biblically ordained office.

00:54:41.080 Deacon, servant of justice.

00:54:42.580 And he's going out and doing the Lord's work.

00:54:45.900 Rounding up criminals.

00:54:47.740 And you're going to have Christians.

00:54:48.760 and for whatever reason whatever madness has taken them over they're going to say i'm going

00:54:54.880 to stand on the opposite side of that and i'm going to oppose it and when this happens you have

00:55:00.060 no duty no requirement to mourn to hand ring oh my goodness how could this be uh he deserved it

00:55:07.980 hopefully he learns his lesson by god's grace yeah hopefully he repents uh i doubt he's probably

00:55:13.240 going to after this feel like a victim and feel even more justified and dig his heels in

00:55:17.840 but I think I said it on Wednesday but I'm going to say it again because we might have some new

00:55:22.600 listeners for this episode I really do think and I don't say this with any joy or glib or anything

00:55:27.620 like that it's it's with a heavy heart and it's deeply tragic that what I'm about to say is

00:55:32.360 something that I actually believe is true I would say that the church as a whole in these United

00:55:36.820 States of America right now in the year of our Lord 2025 is actually more derailed from orthodoxy

00:55:45.240 faithfulness and traditional scripture um than the civil magistrate i actually believe and i

00:55:53.320 you guys know i we've had plenty of criticisms for donald j trump donald j trump i mean like

00:56:00.660 let's be honest he's a 1990s liberal democrat he is a massive zionist and i am not a fan of that

00:56:07.720 whatsoever. And yet, and yet he's done a lot of good for which we're grateful for. And Trump's

00:56:16.420 administration, the Trump administration in 2025, on the whole, if we're looking at an average,

00:56:22.500 the Trump administration in 2025, I think is more aligned with traditional principles from the Bible

00:56:30.780 than the average American church. And you might say, Joel, that, how dare you say that? Look,

00:56:36.520 you're thinking of maybe your reformed church well one i've got news um a lot of reformed

00:56:43.820 churches suck they suck okay secondly though let's just say they all are faithful all the

00:56:49.800 reformed churches okay great then about one to two percent of the church in america is faithful

00:56:55.980 you forget we forget how small how much of a sliver the reformed tradition actually represents

00:57:04.560 in the church in America at large.

00:57:06.840 You take all the reformed churches in America,

00:57:09.960 even with them, it's not that they're all faithful.

00:57:13.580 That would include PCUSA, right?

00:57:16.120 That would include, there'd be a lot of unfaithful

00:57:18.620 You could splice it with a mainline.

00:57:20.780 Reformed-ish mainlines, that's what I'm saying.

00:57:21.900 But if you're just saying reformed tradition, right?

00:57:25.100 You share that with some mainline guys, okay?

00:57:28.340 But if you're saying just the faithful ones, right?

00:57:30.740 So cut the PCUSA out, it's just PCA, it's OPC,

00:57:34.080 some Reformed Baptists, you know, things like that, then again, you're talking like one, two,

00:57:39.460 maybe three percent of all the churches in America. You could just take Joel Osteen's church,

00:57:44.260 John Hagee's church, Kenneth Copeland's church, T.D. Jake's church, and Stephen Furtick's church.

00:57:49.800 You could take those five churches and combine them, and it would probably be about the size

00:57:55.500 of the PCA, the entire denomination, just those five churches. So my point is this,

00:58:01.320 I'm not saying there are, I'm not, I'm not saying there are no faithful churches. Don't hear that.

00:58:06.800 There are faithful churches and by God's grace, I think there are hundreds. There are dozens of us,

00:58:11.220 dozens. I think there, there might actually be hundreds of faithful churches left here in America

00:58:16.660 as a faithful gospel witness. But on the whole, if we look at faithful churches in America,

00:58:22.020 I do not think that it's exaggeration. I'll be conservative. I think it's definitely less than

00:58:27.080 10%. I'm inclined to think less than five, but let's just say it's less than 10%. So that means

00:58:33.640 90% plus of churches are a word of faith, prosperity gospel, they're ordaining women,

00:58:39.720 they're gay affirming, there's something along those lines. ICE, right? The members of ICE,

00:58:46.060 just the individual workers, if we took an average of them and asked, hey, what are your political

00:58:50.420 views, your cultural views, and your religious views? I honestly believe that the average polling

00:58:56.080 of ice workers would be more aligned with scripture than the average polling at random

00:59:02.700 of every church in America. That's where we're at. So my point, I was saying all that to make

00:59:07.460 one simple point. I think we are at a place now in America, in the year of our Lord, 2025,

00:59:13.880 where the civil magistrate is more faithful to God than the church of Jesus Christ. And so what

00:59:19.900 we said nine months ago, it is now time for the fulfillment of that. And that picture that we

00:59:24.500 share. That iconic picture is a case study of that fulfillment. And what is that fulfillment?

00:59:29.600 We are at a time where the state must rebuke and correct the church. I think that was the name of

00:59:36.260 our episode that James White and others lost their minds about, but the name was The State

00:59:41.160 Must Correct the Church. And it's happening. It's happening before our very eyes, and it's happening

00:59:47.760 correctly accurately righteously biblically yep you're welcome uh for uh for more news

00:59:55.900 uh see our episodes from nine months ago right you want you want uh next next year's news at

01:00:01.060 this point yep tune in today and i would say too if me and you went through we listed 100 men that

01:00:05.860 we knew know that have excommunicated for these views that views whatever i would honestly bet

01:00:10.160 half of them napark c-r-e-c just like well these men were excommunicated from non-denominational

01:00:15.460 baptist no these men many of them probably not not all of them maybe maybe about half about half

01:00:22.160 of them pca churches opc churches lutheran churches yeah lcms lcms one more um opc

01:00:31.580 crc oh crc yep crc opc pca and lcms those four denominations all probably for the most

01:00:41.880 conservative denominations in the country we know at least 50 people who have been excommunicated

01:00:48.780 from those churches formally excommunicated asked to leave they themselves were essentially

01:00:54.660 pressured out and it's not just a problem all those cases i don't i haven't deeply dug into

01:00:59.920 every single one of those 50 cases but the ones that i know that i have asked questions

01:01:05.060 that i have looked into um it's very similar to the case that we shared today uh this guy had a

01:01:11.720 tweet saying hey i don't think we should have a bunch of h1b visas i want america to look like

01:01:16.240 america i want my kids to grow up in america not india right and oh we don't like your tone we

01:01:20.600 think that's concerning it seems insensitive oh also by the way you're racist get out i hate you

01:01:26.360 i hate your wife i hate your kids i hope they starve i'm glad that your business is crushed

01:01:30.560 I'm glad you're getting death threats.

01:01:32.280 Let's throw excommunication on top, a little cherry on top for good measure.

01:01:36.080 I'm a pastor, and I want to destroy your life.

01:01:38.940 That's where we are.

01:01:39.880 We're talking retweets of Orthodox Presbyterian ministers barred from the Lord's table.

01:01:46.340 That's the degree we're talking.

01:01:47.540 Hey, I retweeted Michael Spangler.

01:01:49.920 Boom, barred from the Lord's Supper.

01:01:51.660 You can't take communion with the rest of the church.

01:01:53.800 What are we doing?

01:01:55.300 What are we talking about?

01:01:56.920 We've got a bunch of great super chats.

01:01:58.240 Let's hit our last ad break and we'll be back and wrap it up.

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01:05:23.220 All right, we're back with our final segment.

01:05:25.120 we're going to do some super chats now it's not too late for you to send one in if you send in

01:05:29.300 the super chat we always do our best to read it on the air um i say best uh we we do the super

01:05:34.280 chats i don't think we've missed one every single time there's i think there's only been like once

01:05:38.240 or twice and in those cases we end up doing it in the next uh the next live stream yep um so here

01:05:43.600 we go the first one is mitch massey he gave us 300 that is incredible god bless you um we are

01:05:50.780 very grateful. Thank you, Mitch. He said, hey, men, I'm a pastor in New York, and I love your

01:05:55.620 ministry and hope that this helps make you bulletproof. God bless you. I'm not normally

01:06:00.560 able to join you guys live, but I catch up on content when mowing or driving. Any such cases,

01:06:07.640 mowing or driving, that makes sense. I'm going to preach through Ruth next month. Oh, dude,

01:06:13.080 that'll be perfect. So I'm sure that I will be enjoying catching up on this episode sometime

01:06:19.080 soon. Ruth is, I had the pleasure of preaching through Ruth before. I'd like to do it again,

01:06:24.380 because by God's grace, I think that I've grown. It was years ago, and I think I'd be able to do

01:06:28.680 a better job. But that's a wonderful book of the Bible to address some of the current issues of

01:06:33.320 immigration, those things. We bring up Ruth as a case study often on this show, saying,

01:06:37.580 I noticed with Ruth, she doesn't say, hey, I'm going to, you know, your people will be my people,

01:06:42.040 your God will be my God, but also still, you know, the false Moabite gods and also the Moabite people.

01:06:46.440 In fact, I'm going to come into Israel and I'm going to start little Moabite town, you know, as a subset, you know, within Israel somewhere, you know, right outside of Jerusalem.

01:06:55.060 And I'm also going to run for, you know, mayor and I'm going to change policy so that more Moabites can come in and they can like that.

01:07:01.720 That's insane.

01:07:02.600 No, it's when she says to her mother-in-law, who was an Israelite, Naomi, your God will be my God.

01:07:08.740 your people will be my people, that necessarily includes, by way of implication, a forsaking

01:07:14.780 of her previous gods and her previous people. She's saying, I am going to be in Israel. I'm

01:07:20.200 going to assimilate. I'm going to assimilate religiously. I'm going to worship the triune

01:07:25.600 God, the God of Israel. I'm going to assimilate culturally, your people, right? Sociologically,

01:07:32.680 I'm going to, you know, politically at every level. And it's not a coincidence that from

01:07:36.740 the line of Ruth. So she marries Boaz. Then they have Obed. Obed begets Jesse, and Jesse begets

01:07:42.220 David. David becomes the quintessential king of Israel, right? He's a type of Christ. There's no

01:07:49.360 better king than David, other than, of course, ultimately Christ. And he's the second king in

01:07:55.400 the history of the king. So you start with Saul. Saul turned out not to be so great. But then David

01:08:00.000 comes in. He's a man after God's own heart. So the second king in this kingly line in Israel.

01:08:05.940 but notice that David, who is king, he has a Moabite great-grandmother, but he's not a Moabite,

01:08:14.100 and it's not his mother. It's his great-grandmother, meaning what? That you're now on the fourth

01:08:17.900 generation. You see how that works? Oh, what a coincidence. You have someone who does immigrate

01:08:22.560 into Israel. She's not a heritage Israelite. She's not, but she immigrates, but she doesn't

01:08:28.120 just immigrate. She converts religiously, forsakes idolatry, worships the triune God.

01:08:35.100 She also forsakes not just her false gods,

01:08:37.960 but her prior people.

01:08:39.660 She assimilates fully in.

01:08:41.240 And by the time it gets to her son with Boaz, Obed,

01:08:44.620 and then their grandson, Jesse,

01:08:46.200 and then their great-grandson, David,

01:08:48.120 David is now, at the fourth generation,

01:08:50.620 a heritage Israelite, a man after God's own heart,

01:08:53.740 and fit to be king.

01:08:54.880 See how that works?

01:08:55.400 Rules all the people.

01:08:56.260 Not crazy.

01:08:57.060 Can we do that here, please?

01:08:58.620 Can we please do that here?

01:09:00.600 Ruth will preach.

01:09:01.440 So Mitch Massey, I'm glad you're going through Ruth.

01:09:03.460 and thank you very very much again for your generosity all right all right christian america

01:09:10.600 ministries i'll read it now uh send out ten dollar super chat really appreciate that uh the christian

01:09:15.840 american ministries asked would you consider examining the belief that the anglo-saxon celtic

01:09:20.380 germanic scandinavian and kindred peoples are the true physical descendants of the israelites

01:09:25.540 in relation to current events absolutely like the question of um would you consider uh examining i

01:09:32.860 think it would be a fascinating episode totally happy to do it um i'll give you a brief version

01:09:38.340 but we could do a full episode where we break it down so uh for me personally i i don't think that

01:09:43.020 that's the case so i you know i've heard that europeans you know um who are a subset of europeans

01:09:48.080 are uh the genetic descendants of the biblical israelites um specifically the 10 tribes that

01:09:53.480 were carried off right so they would be the 10 lost tribes exactly yep uh so the 10 lost tribes

01:09:58.060 that were lost in captivity that they eventually you know migrated uh because they converted to

01:10:02.380 Christ later on. They weren't like the Edomites, you know, so this, you know, this view, there's

01:10:08.040 variations of this view. Some are heretical, and I want to address that, and then some, I think,

01:10:12.140 are wrong, but not heretical. They wouldn't be, they wouldn't merit church discipline. But if

01:10:16.800 you're of the impression, well, the Jews are not actually, you know, all of Israel, you know,

01:10:22.080 that's not, Jew is not synonymous for Israelite, but rather that's just, you know, the tribe of

01:10:26.760 Judea, a Judean, those kinds of things. If that's your opinion, so then there's 10 other tribes and

01:10:34.880 they ultimately convert to Christ, but the Jewish Edomites do not and they remain hardened in their

01:10:40.700 heart. And then those who convert to Christ because they're enduring much persecution,

01:10:44.840 they actually disperse and they dispersed above the Caucasus mountains to the north and they

01:10:50.480 became the Caucasians and Europeans. I'm very familiar with the view. I have heard it several

01:10:56.080 times, I think that that's wrong, okay? I want to go on record saying that's wrong. I think the

01:11:01.040 black Hebrew Israelites, you know, black people, they're the real Israelites. White people, they're

01:11:05.180 the real Israelites. I think both views are wrong. I appreciate both views, though, because it really

01:11:09.920 supports my view, because both, I think, serve as profound examples of retardation. And so my view

01:11:18.500 is white people are the real Israelites, retarded. Black people are the real Israelites, retarded.

01:11:24.380 But Ashkenazi Jews are the real Israelites, also very retarded.

01:11:29.900 I believe that in the province of God, that we don't have any direct genetic descendants

01:11:36.580 of the Israelites of the Bible 2,000 years ago today.

01:11:39.300 The birth records were in the temple that Titus destroyed.

01:11:44.200 There is no way to prove genetically that, oh, I'm a direct descendant of Abraham or

01:11:49.580 a direct descendant of David or a direct...

01:11:51.420 No.

01:11:51.660 and I think part of the reason why God saw fit to do it that way in his providence is because the

01:11:57.840 flesh is of little account that doesn't forego natural affections of these kinds of things right

01:12:02.600 two things can be true at once without contradicting one another they can run parallels

01:12:06.440 side by side but as it comes to the gospel and as it comes to salvation as it comes to the Christian

01:12:12.460 faith it's not one who is a Jew outwardly circumcision of the flesh but one who is a Jew

01:12:17.960 inwardly circumcision of the heart. This is what the whole book of Galatians is about. It's what

01:12:22.980 the whole book of Hebrews is about. It's what much of the book of Acts is about. I mean, this point

01:12:28.380 is just everywhere in the New Testament. And so I believe that because that's the theology that

01:12:34.300 the Holy Spirit inspired the apostles to write in Scripture, canonized and scripturated,

01:12:39.160 I believe that God providentially, not just through special revelation in the writing of

01:12:43.140 the New Testament, but providentially in natural revelation history saw fit to make sure that the

01:12:48.980 genetic birth rights and records would be wiped out. And then before you have the Talmud and

01:12:55.380 the Mishnah and these kinds of things, you have like a 300-year gap before Judaism, Talmudic

01:13:00.840 Judaism as we know it today, really gets off the ground. And they like to claim and say like,

01:13:05.900 oh, we're the direct descendants. Okay, but you have a 300-year gap in your records. No,

01:13:11.640 I don't believe that anyone can make the claim.

01:13:13.500 What I think actually happened in AD 70

01:13:15.320 is that the birth records were destroyed.

01:13:17.660 Many Jews that still remained hard in their hearts

01:13:19.720 against Christ, they too were physically destroyed

01:13:22.120 and therefore their families, their line,

01:13:23.860 no descendants, their line was snuffed out,

01:13:26.620 removed from the earth.

01:13:27.600 And then I think that there were also many Jews

01:13:29.540 that in AD 70, they saw the fulfillment

01:13:31.780 of what Jesus prophesied in Matthew 24

01:13:33.740 and that was assigned to them.

01:13:35.920 And so they were converted to Christianity.

01:13:37.560 They believe that Jesus actually was the Messiah

01:13:39.420 and that they killed their Messiah,

01:13:40.960 repented of that and then quickly in believing now that jesus is the messiah they believed his

01:13:46.040 words in matthew 24 that there was a local judgment right the olivet discourse was not

01:13:50.900 the universal final end but a local judgment fulfilled in 80 70 jesus said before this

01:13:56.580 generation passes away and so now they're believing the words of jesus they got out of

01:14:00.480 dodge got out of jerusalem got out of israel and migrated north and now they're submitting

01:14:05.180 themselves to the apostolic teaching galatians and hebrews and these books that is not one who

01:14:10.340 is a Jew outwardly, circumcision of the flesh, but one who is a Jew inwardly, circumcision

01:14:14.580 of the heart.

01:14:15.080 So they likely now, they're refugees in other places because their country has been destroyed

01:14:19.040 and they know not to put too much stock in the flesh because that's what the apostles

01:14:22.800 are teaching.

01:14:23.480 They've converted to Christianity.

01:14:24.980 So they probably intermarried and their lineage, their ancestry would have been watered down

01:14:30.500 as they're taking wives from other nations, other Gentiles who have come to faith.

01:14:34.160 So they're probably intermarrying with Gentiles and, you know, a few centuries go by and then

01:14:40.180 some rebellious guys say, let's pretend that we are genetically Jews and let's pretend that we're

01:14:45.120 God's chosen people. And maybe our great, great, great, great grandchildren can get trillions of

01:14:49.980 dollars from the United States and go ahead and bomb people in Gaza. So anyways, I think it's

01:14:58.060 silly. Anyone, anyone. So I'm not saying it's especially silly. You know, like, well, it might

01:15:03.700 be black people. They might be the Israelites. It might be Ashkenazi Jews. They might be, but white

01:15:07.540 people. It can't be them. Now, that's just being trained to be, you know, anti-white. That's just

01:15:13.740 your liberalism showing. So I think that, you know, white people are the true Israelites. I think

01:15:18.500 it's retarded. But hear me, I don't think it's especially retarded. I don't think it's any more

01:15:22.920 retarded than black people claiming to be the Israelites or Ashkenazi Jews claiming to be the

01:15:27.380 Israelites. And I'm most concerned with Ashkenazi Jews because it seems like most people in the

01:15:32.000 world are more convinced by that claim than they are by the Caucasian claim or the black Hebrew

01:15:36.180 Israelite claim. All right, so that's all that. Here's the point, though. If you're a member in

01:15:42.480 my church, for instance, I'll just use myself as a hypothetical example, and you believe that

01:15:47.020 certain sects like Celts and Anglo-Saxons and Germanics are the genetic descendants of the

01:15:54.580 Israelites of the Bible 2,000 years ago, and that's as far as you take it, but that's your view.

01:16:01.460 I would say you're wrong, and I'd maybe give you a hard time a little bit in love. Hey,

01:16:05.640 you're wrong and also slightly retarded, but we love our retarded members and the table of the

01:16:10.420 Lord would be open to you. Membership would be open to you and you would not be under church

01:16:16.400 discipline. That said though, that said, going back to the comment here, what you're getting at

01:16:22.740 this view, you could hold it in isolation. You could. And I would say it's wrong, but not

01:16:28.980 heretical. Say that again. I think you're wrong, but not heretical. But there are many, not in

01:16:34.100 every case. There are exceptions, but there are many people that I've encountered that hold this

01:16:38.520 view and tend to hold it in tandem also with other views of a cult called Christian identity.

01:16:47.260 So Christian identity, just in the generic sense, well, that's great. Let's find our identity in

01:16:51.040 Christ. I'm not talking about that. There's an actual cult called Christian identity. And

01:16:57.080 Christian identity believes that white people are the descendants of the biblical Israelites,

01:17:01.700 but that's not all they believe. Now, like with every cult, there's a sliding scale there and

01:17:09.000 there are different expressions and different variations, but a significant portion of the

01:17:14.460 Christian identity guys do also believe not just that Caucasians are the physical descendants of

01:17:20.220 the biblical Israelites, but they also believe in pre-Adamic people. So let me explain that for a

01:17:25.140 moment. They do not believe that Adam was the first man and that Eve, as Genesis says, is the

01:17:31.700 mother of all living. They actually believe that God, this is not all, but many of these guys

01:17:37.300 in this cult, they believe that God actually, they actually have adopted tenets of theistic

01:17:43.140 evolution. So they're not literal six-day guys. They're not young earth guys. They deny Genesis

01:17:48.840 one through three. And most importantly, I'll get to this in a moment, they deny Romans five

01:17:52.300 because Genesis 1 through 3 works with Genesis 5 in perfect concert.

01:17:56.780 If you get rid of one, then you disrupt the other.

01:17:59.520 So this group, many who believe that Caucasians are the physical descendants of the biblical Israelites,

01:18:05.720 they also, that one I think is wrong because it's not heretical.

01:18:08.580 I'm not that concerned about that.

01:18:09.900 But they also tend to believe in pre-Ademic people,

01:18:12.680 meaning that God created the world, not in six literal days,

01:18:15.540 but he created the world over millions of years and he used macroevolution to do it.

01:18:19.940 Now, there's a number of problems with that.

01:18:21.940 It's simply not biblical, but one big problem that I believe makes it heretical is that if you believe that with macroevolution, that means that you have millions and millions of people, or at least some kind of people, dying and having offspring, and they live, and they have offspring, and then they die, and they die.

01:18:40.120 And so what you have then is before Adam and Eve are ever even made, right, and then they

01:18:45.520 sin in the garden, what you have is death is already introduced into the world long

01:18:52.040 before sin with Adam and Eve.

01:18:54.780 And the Bible plainly teaches that through sin, this is Romans 5 now, by one man's disobedience,

01:19:00.960 that one man being Adam, not a bunch of pre-Adamic mud people, but Adam, that through one man's

01:19:06.920 sin, the first man, the father, federal head of all people, Adam, by his disobedience, sin entered

01:19:13.620 the world, and through sin, death. So it's not that there's death through macroevolution for

01:19:19.680 millions of years, and then eventually Adam and Eve are made, and they sin. No, it's Adam and Eve's

01:19:24.920 sin, and through their sin, that sin brings the curse, and with the curse, one of the chief

01:19:30.120 tenets of that is death. And so there's a massive denial there, and then with Romans 5, so too by

01:19:36.680 one man's disobedience, sin into the world, and through sin, death, so too by one man's obedience.

01:19:43.240 The second Adam, Jesus. Now, if we have union with him by grace through faith, then we have

01:19:49.940 life. And so with the pre-ademic tenet, that element of this cult of Christian identity

01:19:56.260 that does believe that white people are the true genetic descendants of the biblical Israelites,

01:20:03.540 with this pre-edemic piece.

01:20:05.840 There's an affirmation of theistic evolution in many cases.

01:20:09.840 There are variants, but in many cases.

01:20:12.440 So denial of young earth, denial of six literal days,

01:20:16.280 pre-edemic people, and because they're pre-edemic people,

01:20:18.720 of course, they're going to take liberty and say

01:20:20.260 they're kind of people, not really people.

01:20:22.800 They're subhuman.

01:20:24.080 They're less than people.

01:20:25.540 They're less than human.

01:20:26.760 They're subhuman.

01:20:27.540 They're kind of beasts, kind of in between beasts and people.

01:20:31.280 And of course, all the pre-edemic people in this view,

01:20:33.540 are all the brown people, the non-white people. The Adamic race would be the white race,

01:20:38.640 and so that's part of the view. And then, of course, you would have all these people who are

01:20:43.880 not descendants of Adam, the subhuman pre-Adamic mud people. Well, they don't have Adam as federal

01:20:52.200 head. Adam is not their federal head because they did not literally descend from Adam. See,

01:20:56.980 notice this. This is the gospel here. Adam is federal head of all people because all people

01:21:02.220 descended from him physically. Christ, the second Adam, is the federal head of all his spiritual

01:21:09.380 sons. Notice the book of Isaiah. So we have the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. But Jesus,

01:21:13.800 who is the Son, not the Father, he is referenced one time as Eternal Father in the book of Isaiah.

01:21:19.760 And the reason why is because through Christ, he begets many spiritual sons, right? We have

01:21:25.480 spiritual new birth through Christ. And so Jesus is the second Adam and his federal headship is

01:21:32.480 with all his sons who are spiritual sons through spiritual birth. Adam, the first Adam, he is

01:21:39.800 federal head of all his physical descendants, physical sons through physical birth. That's

01:21:45.260 the picture. That's the imagery of how this works. So everyone is under Adam. They're under the curse

01:21:51.880 and they're in sin because of Adam's sin.

01:21:54.660 He represented them in the garden.

01:21:56.260 When he failed, we all failed.

01:21:57.940 We're all represented by Adam.

01:21:59.880 He is our representative, our federal head.

01:22:02.260 Well, I didn't pick him.

01:22:03.480 It doesn't matter.

01:22:04.200 Why is he federal head then?

01:22:05.440 Because of birth, physical birth, physical descendants.

01:22:09.900 Well, how does Jesus become a federal head?

01:22:14.080 Because he also is a father.

01:22:15.980 Adam, physical father.

01:22:17.280 Jesus, eternal father.

01:22:18.940 Adam, federal headship established by physical birth.

01:22:21.580 Jesus, spiritual birth. But here's the picture of Romans 5 is that one man's disobedience

01:22:29.960 ruined the world. It introduced sin and through sin, death. Jesus, though, in his obedience,

01:22:35.420 he saves the sons of Adam. And if you have an entire sector of people, the mud people,

01:22:41.920 the pre-Adamic people, who are not in Adam, they're not descendants of Adam, then you have

01:22:46.820 an entire segment of people who are unsavable. Now, some Christian identity guys will get cute

01:22:51.860 with this and have variants and say, well, but by this point, there's been so much intermarriage

01:22:56.300 that most brown people are, they're brown, but they're only slightly brown because they probably

01:23:01.840 have at some point in their ancestry intermarriage with a European. And so they do have a soul and

01:23:09.240 they are human, still not as human as somebody who's pure, pure white, but they're human-ish

01:23:16.340 and they do have a soul and they are, you know, there is the potential, they're savable, right?

01:23:21.120 They could be saved. And so I'm, you know, I'm not that much of a monster, you know, holding this

01:23:27.740 view. No, it's a terrible view. And it's not just, oh, it's a terrible view because you're being mean

01:23:34.460 to brown people or this and that. No, I want you guys to understand this is not, I'm not going to

01:23:39.900 attack this view from the left. I don't have to adopt made up words like racism. I don't have to

01:23:45.180 be a Marxist. I don't have to be a Bolshevik. I don't have to adopt some Jewish liberalism in

01:23:49.640 order to attack this view. This view is wrong, not because it's mean, not because it hurts my

01:23:54.500 fee-fees, not because it hurts the fee-fees of brown people. This view is wrong because it's

01:23:59.060 heretical. It goes against the word of God. It denies six-day literal creation. It denies young

01:24:07.100 earth. It says that death predates sin. It denies Adam's federal headship over all people. It denies

01:24:14.820 that Eve is the mother of all the living, and it denies that Jesus is able, not universal salvation,

01:24:21.100 we're not universalists, but to save from every tribe, tongue, and nation, because there would

01:24:24.820 be some tribes that cannot be saved because they don't have Adam as federal head and therefore

01:24:30.240 cannot have Christ. Christian identity, in the generic sense, yeah, we have Christian identity,

01:24:36.320 we're Christians, but as the particular name of a particular cult, because that's the name they've

01:24:42.160 adopted. It goes by Christian identity and some call it Israel identity. Those are just different

01:24:47.380 labels. As Christian identity started to be detected and people are like, whoa, what is this?

01:24:51.280 And started to call it out as a cult. They shifted, they pivoted and they said, oh, we're Israel

01:24:55.560 identity. Same guys, same guys. So whether you hear someone saying Christian identity, I'm a part of

01:25:00.760 Christian identity or I'm a part of Israel identity, you need to have alarm bells in your head and say

01:25:05.120 cult, cult, cult. If you have somebody show up at your church and they say, I believe that Caucasians

01:25:11.160 are the physical descendants of biblical Israel.

01:25:14.940 Okay, that view I think is, again, retarded and wrong,

01:25:17.660 but not heretical on its own.

01:25:19.840 But I would then press and say,

01:25:21.420 hey, are you part of Christian identity?

01:25:24.020 Or do you think that any people preexisted Adam

01:25:26.880 would be a good interrogating question to ask, right?

01:25:30.940 So if they just think that white people

01:25:32.780 are the physical descendants of the biblical Israelites,

01:25:35.120 I think it's wrong, but that's not heretical.

01:25:37.520 But ask some follow-up questions.

01:25:39.620 Do they believe in pre-Adamic people?

01:25:41.160 Do you believe in old earth?

01:25:42.580 Did they believe in macroevolution before Adam was made?

01:25:46.260 Get into some of those questions.

01:25:47.880 And if they answer yes to those questions, well, now it's not just, hey, you're retarded.

01:25:51.960 It's, hey, you're a heretic.

01:25:55.160 You're a heretic.

01:25:56.140 And then you must call that person to recant.

01:25:58.680 And if that person does not recant, or if they tell you they recant, but then continue to peddle that view to other members in your church, then you excommunicate them.

01:26:09.200 Okay?

01:26:09.540 There's my answer to that question.

01:26:11.920 All right, next.

01:26:13.240 Andrew Cox, good brother, long-time supporter, said this.

01:26:18.080 He sent $5, first of all, thank you, and said,

01:26:20.580 Our third child, a baby girl, was born this morning, happy and healthy,

01:26:23.780 and Mama is doing well, too.

01:26:25.080 Praise God.

01:26:26.100 Congratulations, brother.

01:26:27.420 He said, Thank you for your prayers.

01:26:29.480 You are welcome and awesome.

01:26:31.680 Congratulations on the addition to your family.

01:26:33.120 That's great. Congratulations.

01:26:33.740 Throw the time off.

01:26:34.820 NotBoringDad sent $9.99, asking this.

01:26:38.060 should churches stop using matt boswell music now that his church has taken action again keen yes

01:26:43.840 yes the best time is probably about five years so today's a good day too yeah today's a good day

01:26:49.140 too all right uh is dapper dan next dapper dan is next i'll do this one dapper dan it's five dollars

01:26:54.000 he said if you could ask one question to the 2028 republican primary candidate during their first

01:27:00.640 debate what would it be uh what is your relationship with peter theel and palantir

01:27:06.080 and also why do you have an indian wife and has she converted to christianity those would be my

01:27:12.400 first questions those seem very specific uh yep jd vance all right go ahead tom sent five dollars

01:27:17.800 thank you tom and tom asked this can you all discuss leviticus 1934 it was on a billboard

01:27:24.240 outside austin that's yep that's par for the course saying christians don't have to be cruel

01:27:29.240 or something like that i've seen a couple of this uh there's a billboard says like jesus

01:27:32.500 said, my kingdom is not of this world.

01:27:34.220 Twisting scripture.

01:27:34.980 Leviticus 1934, you shall not mistreat the stranger or the sojourner.

01:27:38.380 And it's kind of getting at the idea like, look, illegal immigrants, legal immigrants,

01:27:43.060 the Bible says you shouldn't mistreat them.

01:27:44.540 Christians don't have to be cruel.

01:27:45.800 And I would actually agree with the sentiment in isolation.

01:27:48.420 Christians do not have to be cruel.

01:27:50.040 Yes.

01:27:50.140 Correct.

01:27:50.680 Blessed are the merciful.

01:27:51.620 Blessed are the peacemakers.

01:27:53.040 Amen.

01:27:53.840 When the sojourner, when the stranger is in your country, and let's say hypothetically,

01:27:58.720 he was taking bricks and rocks and he was pelting police officers of the city of Los Angeles or

01:28:05.400 setting vehicles of a private corporation that cost about $200,000 on average on fire,

01:28:11.300 waving the flag of the country that he came from. Hypothetically, if a stranger or sojourner

01:28:16.180 was doing something like that, do Christians have to just sit there and let that happen?

01:28:22.180 Do Christians have to just support it and say, hey, we've got to be nice to them?

01:28:25.300 you do justice if you're a christian in the civil magistrate you carry out justice if you're a

01:28:29.220 christian who's not in the civil magistrate then you demand that your civil magistrate carry out

01:28:32.880 justice so the sojourner who was actually in israel yes they were not allowed to mistreat

01:28:37.840 them that's absolutely right um but here's the thing um nowhere does it say that in israel

01:28:43.860 anybody and everybody all the time who wanted to be a sojourner is automatically allowed in

01:28:49.340 and if somebody came in um the wrong way or was causing trouble while being in israel would have

01:28:57.040 booted them out that's perfectly who broke the sabbath you would be put to death that's right

01:29:01.680 and even so leviticus um in in uh the pentateuch uh elsewhere um it says that uh the sojourner

01:29:09.740 uh the stranger the alien um you can't mistreat him but you know what you can do there was still

01:29:15.460 here's my point. So the Bible, you're right. The Bible says you cannot be malicious. You cannot be

01:29:20.320 cruel to the sojourner. But there is still a distinction biblically in the Pentateuch between

01:29:27.860 the sojourner and your brother, your fellow Israelite. So for instance, the Israelites could

01:29:33.400 not charge another Israelite, somebody who was their heritage brother, could not charge them

01:29:39.380 interest. You know who they could charge interest to? A sojourner. That's not cruelty, right? That's

01:29:45.100 not exploitation but there was still a different standard and in america we need number one 50

01:29:51.080 million to 100 million need to go back even once that's done there's still be a lot of people here

01:29:56.000 who are not heritage americans but they're not causing trouble they're they're upstanding

01:29:59.940 citizens and all that kind of stuff and their descendants eventually will be heritage americans

01:30:03.960 and that's fine that's fine um but what i would say is that even with that so there's a bunch of

01:30:08.600 people who just need to go they just need to go there's some people who would get to stay but even

01:30:13.280 with those people who get to stay if america had laws i'm just saying hypothetically i'm not saying

01:30:17.300 that i would do it or that it should be done but i'm just saying just to put this into perspective

01:30:21.580 if america decided we're gonna uh we're going to go ahead and deport 100 million people and we've

01:30:28.000 we've done the math and we've done a census and there are about 50 million people still remaining

01:30:31.940 um who are you know first second uh first and second generation americans uh who you know they

01:30:39.280 or their parents moved here in the last 50 years. But they're upstanding citizens. They've loved our

01:30:44.580 country. They pay their taxes. They've never broke the law, blah, blah, blah. And we've decided that

01:30:48.480 they can stay. However, there's going to be some provisions for heritage Americans that they don't

01:30:53.540 have. So under the law, if they're tried for something like that, equal under the law. But

01:30:59.980 maybe certain tax breaks for heritage Americans that these guys don't get. That would not be a

01:31:06.420 breach of the leviticus passage has been cited today you're not saying heritage americans they

01:31:11.020 can commit murder they have lesser penalties right if you commit murder you actually get the biblical

01:31:15.520 the biblical justice that would be unequal weights of measure what you're saying is hey as far as

01:31:20.140 tax breaks as far as opportunities like the bible does not require everyone has the right to vote

01:31:24.680 well some people can vote and some people can't nothing biblically no biblical injustice has been

01:31:29.180 done that's right you can get away with murder you can't oh hold on that's biblical that is a

01:31:33.320 breach of justice okay hope that helps nick bonner uh man good friend faithful he's great supporter

01:31:39.580 he sent uh 30 pieces i mean uh 70 7 000 that was kind of his super chat he sent 20 and he said

01:31:47.160 seven thousand dollars and what he's referencing is uh pro-israel lobbies they're losing the pr

01:31:52.880 the pr game and so word is circled around they're paying some influencers up to seven

01:31:58.160 on the right specifically on the right right so right-wing influencers paying them up to seven

01:32:02.760 thousand dollars per post that's positive about israel and some guys have done the math on that

01:32:08.160 and broken it down what does seven thousand dollars equate to you know about like 2500 years

01:32:13.480 ago in israel in biblical times oh it would have been about uh about uh i think it's like four

01:32:19.240 months wages four months wages and what does that equate to in silver and the worth of silver at

01:32:23.220 that time 30 shekels of silver it's incredible isn't it amazing that um that jews today are

01:32:30.340 paying third the equivalent of 30 shekels of silver to influencers right-wing influencers

01:32:36.220 for them to shill for israel against against christ against the christian religion um some

01:32:44.540 things just just don't change yeah that's what nick's mentioning thanks so much for the 20

01:32:48.360 this is a good question speaking of heritage americans alex daniel he sent nine dollars

01:32:54.080 thank uh ten dollars thank you alex he said my mom's family settled here i'm thinking in america

01:32:58.700 in the 1800s from europe and still owns that land my father a mexican illegal abandoned us

01:33:03.960 i'm sorry he said i'm half white and protestant christian am i a heritage american so protestant

01:33:10.080 christian graced um half half white so i'm just thinking of just starting with wasp i mean that

01:33:15.700 the country was built. A lot of people introduced over time, but that was the backbone. We're the

01:33:19.940 wasp, right? So white Anglo-Saxon Protestant. So you got the Protestant piece, you got half of the

01:33:24.760 white Anglo piece. My position, and then I'll let Wes answer, but my position, because people have

01:33:29.900 asked me, and it's just helpful to have tangible, to have something concrete. So I've said

01:33:34.840 third generation, and I get that just for the record. I get that from scripture. It's not

01:33:38.080 entirely arbitrary. In scripture, there were certain rights and privileges in terms of

01:33:43.300 entrance to the temple for certain forms and degrees of worship in Israel that were not

01:33:49.260 allotted to sojourners or even to a Ruth or someone like that, but until the third generation.

01:33:55.260 So this is actually in the Old Testament. It's in the Bible. It's a Bible verse,

01:33:58.800 the third generation. So what I've said is third generation on both sides or fifth generation or

01:34:06.900 more on one side. So in this person's case, in Alex Daniel's case, he said 1,800. So I'm assuming

01:34:13.860 that's fifth generation plus at that point. And then what is it? Mexican, an illegal Mexican

01:34:22.640 who abandoned us. That's so sorry. I'm so sorry for that. That's really sad. But I would say,

01:34:27.100 yes uh you're you're half um half wasp uh 100 on the p uh half on the w and the a um and and the

01:34:37.480 part that is half is uh multiple generations here in in america since the 1800s so i personally

01:34:43.940 would say yes you're a heritage american uh but but west and i we have we have differences and

01:34:48.780 you're free to push back what would you say uh if if you still had a voting system in america i

01:34:54.020 think those that vote they would be men they've men that are productive men they're not criminals

01:34:57.680 men that are christian alex meets all of these i do think though they should be they should descend

01:35:02.820 from the majority their majority descendants was a trace of different ancestors the majority of it

01:35:08.240 should be from the founding stock of america and so i would think alex in your case i would say if

01:35:12.840 you marry an american your children could vote so in that case and not to it's not about being

01:35:17.780 autistic or getting in the 23 and me and getting into ratios but it's about saying the majority

01:35:22.980 of this person's ancestors the majority of this man's lineage they were here they forged this

01:35:29.640 country they were gifted this country steven wolf he talks about like a nation being a gift from our

01:35:34.620 ancestors and this person's ancestors worked labored bled and died the majority of them not

01:35:40.200 just one back here at a grandfather or great-grandfather the majority of them uh gave him

01:35:45.820 as a gift this place and so that would be my argument majority so 50 plus one would would he

01:35:50.940 i think that's a fair argument um i disagree but i don't i don't think it's um i don't think it's

01:35:57.540 outside the pale i think it's reasonable so would alex be able to vote within that yes or no no okay

01:36:02.360 so he would not be able to vote but i i'm glad you said that because i just want to articulate

01:36:06.100 this for the listener um so when west says he can't vote he's not saying that alex should go

01:36:10.380 to labor camp no he's saying alex can live here um he can live here peacefully uh as a welcomed

01:36:15.540 member of society um as a citizen some level of citizen uh but you would reserve the vote and

01:36:21.840 then his children alex marries an american uh girl children would now be um well over a majority

01:36:27.960 they'd be 75 percent and so then the children would uh be voting and alex would be the guy who

01:36:33.280 helped you know uh turn the tide and and um and you know and the children would be great and alex

01:36:39.660 would also have a great life and here's the thing um alex the people he's like well i can't vote

01:36:44.140 oh and he'd look over and say well who can vote oh um all all the based yeah christian guys you

01:36:51.060 know and he'd be like the country's gonna be and for the record i support tons of policies that

01:36:55.360 would take away my right to vote i support taking away everyone's right to vote to be fair yeah for

01:37:00.180 the time being there was a twitter post a while back where someone was like if joel had his way

01:37:04.300 um only two people could vote and i said that's still one more than preferable yep um and monarchy

01:37:10.580 just kind of sounds nice all right and for a time and even in the future hey four kids i don't have

01:37:15.120 four kids take away my right hey voting in a state election so like could you vote in texas i wasn't

01:37:20.500 born here right i would support only letting men heads of household who were born in texas vote in

01:37:25.500 texas beautiful and i wouldn't meet that qualification stupid right exactly so you're

01:37:29.500 like so we're not trying to we're not sitting here and saying oh we're gonna make the uh let me check

01:37:33.440 my 23 and me let me check this and then uh whatever perfectly lines up for me that's what will make

01:37:37.900 the standard no there are plenty of standards that both you and i hold that we uh don't a

01:37:42.680 standard plenty might be a stretch okay there are a couple there are a couple yeah that you and i

01:37:46.340 hold that we ourselves don't meet but here's the beauty of it uh west knows that if only native

01:37:51.820 texans stretching back three generations or more could vote in state elections our state would be

01:37:58.520 west would be like okay yeah west would be like okay so me and my wife can't vote um and the

01:38:04.520 state immediately is like better forever yeah so much better my kids are blessed because

01:38:10.400 all the mexican immigrants couldn't vote but also all the california immigrants couldn't vote

01:38:17.920 like it would be amazing it would be amazing okay let's keep going mostly peaceful merch he sent

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01:38:32.120 If you ever do a talk about fascism, can you go into the Nietzsche connection?

01:38:37.580 If you do go into Nazism, can you go into the Nietzsche and Darwin connection?

01:38:41.780 What he's getting there is Nietzsche had a strong view of basically a man pulling himself up by his bootstraps and the will to power.

01:38:49.140 The great man must rule.

01:38:50.540 That was a big, I think it's in Thus Spake Zarathustra, but he talks a lot about the Superman as in there must be born a new man,

01:38:57.980 a man of strength a man of bravado a man of virility and he's got to come out and he's got

01:39:04.360 a rule and he's got to be in many ways Nietzsche is actually reflecting his own weaknesses Nietzsche

01:39:08.440 was uh plagued with actual like physical ailments he was weak he was kinda he was kinda a simp

01:39:14.560 there's like actual photos of like a woman holding like a whip a girl he likes pretending to whip him

01:39:19.280 and his guy they're there and he just he laid down and take it took it and so Nietzsche in

01:39:23.360 much of his writings he's kind of looking for this superman figure that embodies the strength

01:39:27.940 that he wish he had and there are elements of fascism and nazism that 100 draw from that so

01:39:33.520 that's okay he's referencing there i um i've got to go to the restroom really bad so we got to wrap

01:39:39.560 it up wes i'm gonna let you read it all right if i have a comment i'll make it quick let's go

01:39:43.980 daniel bartles twenty dollars thanks you thank you daniel he said is there a release date for

01:39:48.300 the four pillars merch until then i guess i'll settle for my randy weaver throwback just say

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01:39:56.740 um but i think it's something that we'll do uh next year i think sometime next year we'll do

01:40:01.060 merch is tough to do right i should say yeah it's tough like we could crank out a shirt next week

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01:40:40.400 tell the wife hey made 600 you personally nope the ministry how much of that will you see maybe 40

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01:40:52.100 we will do it sometime next year um but let the record state out of the goodness of our heart

01:40:57.120 because we love you because i don't think it's profitable yep uh vlad yakubitz great brother

01:41:02.360 longtime supporter sent two dollars and this is in reference to the previous super chat new york

01:41:06.340 pastor he's going through the book of ruth vlad said james b jordan series on roof is amazing i

01:41:11.520 believe it i believe it james b jordan's awesome octavian nine dollar super chat this is the last

01:41:16.240 one. I've been thinking that when Jesus teaches the disciples to pray, I've been thinking that

01:41:20.760 when Jesus teaches the disciples to pray, when he says, our father, he refers to himself.

01:41:25.640 No, I think he's talking about the father, but I'm assuming Octavian, this is one of the later

01:41:30.080 comments that came in. So you might be thinking about what I said, where Isaiah refers to Christ

01:41:34.000 as eternal father. And so you are right. There is that reference in the scripture where Jesus

01:41:38.420 is eternal father. But in the reference of Matthew, what is it? Is Matthew six, our father?

01:41:46.240 the Lord's Prayer. I believe it's Matthew 6. When you pray, pray, Our Father who art in heaven,

01:41:51.160 hallowed be thy name. I'm trying to sound kind here, but I was going to say, I'm pretty sure.

01:41:59.480 No, that would be a false humility. I know he's referencing the Father and not himself.

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The NXR Podcast - October 10, 2025

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