The NXR Podcast - The Next Crusade - Professional Pollster Reveals the Numbers Killing Trump With Young Voters (w⧸Mark Mitchell)

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to The Next Crusade with me, Father Calvin Robinson, exclusive to NXR

00:00:25.620 studios. This is, of course, the show where we look at current events from a Christian perspective

00:00:30.580 and we address the topics the legacy media does not want to touch with a 10-foot barge pole.

00:00:35.800 We've got a great show coming up today. We've got Mark Mitchell joining us, the pollster. I want to

00:00:41.120 get to behind the scenes of partisan politics and how fraudulent and or true these polls are. I've

00:00:48.680 always said the only poll you can trust is the poll on election day, but let's see what Mark

00:00:52.640 has to say. As Christians, we talk a lot about the Reformation, and we have touched on the topic a

00:00:57.540 few times in my monologues over the past few weeks, so I figured we'd spend a bit of time

00:01:02.320 discussing the origins. People may argue over when it actually began, but the major catalyst

00:01:08.280 for the movement was on the eve of All Saints Day in the year of 1517 AD, when an Augustinian

00:01:15.360 friar and professor of theology at the Young University of Wittenberg nailed 95 theses to

00:01:21.440 the door of the local castle church. Martin Luther certainly did not think that his objection

00:01:27.220 to what he saw as ecclesiastical abuse would, within the span of a generation, shatter the

00:01:33.580 religious unity of the Latin West and redraw the map of Europe. To understand why his protest went

00:01:40.320 so viral, we must look beyond the man to the institution he addressed. The church of the late

00:01:47.240 15th and 16th centuries was in dire need of reform. The immediate cause of Luther's complaint was the

00:01:55.260 trade in indulgences, and in particular the campaign entrusted to the Dominican preacher

00:02:00.780 Johann Tetzel. This story that set him off went something like this. Albrecht of Brandenburg,

00:02:10.420 an ambitious young nobleman, had conspired to hold the Archbishopric of Mainz,

00:02:14.340 together with two other sees. To hold multiple ecclesiastical offices at once was strictly

00:02:19.960 forbidden by canon law, but Albrecht was not concerned with such matters. To secure the

00:02:25.480 approval that would legitimise his consolidation, he borrowed a vast sum from the Fugger Banking

00:02:31.380 House of Augsburg. Pope Leo X, who was a Medici with an expensive desire for art, learning,

00:02:39.440 and the rebuilding of St. Peter's Basilica was happy to grant the dispensation in exchange for

00:02:46.180 a fee. Half of the proceeds of a great indulgence would be sent to Rome for the Basilica, and the

00:02:52.340 other half would repay the bankers. Johann Tetzel was the salesman, and the jingle attributed to

00:02:59.140 him has echoed down the centuries. As soon as the coin in the coffer rings, the soul from purgatory

00:03:06.400 Springs. This notorious display of corruption left the common people believing that the Catholic 0.97

00:03:12.700 Church had reduced salvation to a financial transaction. But was the buying and selling

00:03:18.180 of forgiveness really the official teaching of the Church? The answer, which tends to surprise

00:03:23.420 those with an oversimplified history, is no. The doctrine of indulgences, when properly understood,

00:03:32.020 concerns the remission of the temporal punishment due to sins already forgiven.

00:03:36.960 Drawn from what the church calls the treasury of merit,

00:03:40.340 it has never held that a sinner might purchase the pardon of guilt itself,

00:03:44.880 still less a license to sin in future.

00:03:47.760 In layman's terms, the church allowed your worldly penance

00:03:51.500 to be in the form of working and giving the proceeds to the church,

00:03:55.800 rather than requiring that your penance be private prayer and reflection.

00:04:00.100 The indulgences had nothing to do with going to heaven or hell,

00:04:03.860 known as eternal punishment, but temporal.

00:04:06.400 they were simply an alternate form of earthly penance for your past sins that allowed you

00:04:12.940 to contribute to the church's function in your repentance what tensile and the similar frauds

00:04:19.280 were peddling was not the doctrine but its abuse a crude and greedy distortion of it

00:04:26.540 this distinction is critical and the church herself would later insist upon it in the

00:04:32.760 strongest terms. Yet the ordinary Christian in the marketplace in Wittenberg was, the distinction

00:04:38.240 was invisible. He saw only that the mercy of God appeared to be for sale. The indulgences were the

00:04:45.780 most obvious symptom of a deeper rot, and that rot had several names. The first was simony,

00:04:53.960 the buying and selling of sacred offices. This sin was named after Simon Magus, who, in the Acts of

00:05:00.340 the Apostles offered the Apostles money for the power of the Holy Spirit. In Luther's day,

00:05:06.500 bishoprics, abbesses, and lucrative benefices of every kind were routinely obtained through

00:05:12.440 payment or influence, rather than through fitness for the cure of souls. The second was clerical

00:05:19.340 pluralism, the practice of holding multiple offices at once. Albrecht of Mainz was such a

00:05:25.140 flagrant example that it could not be ignored by any. In a similar vein, absenteeism was when a

00:05:32.020 bishop collected the revenues of a diocese he never actually visited. A shepherd who never sees his

00:05:38.780 flock cannot easily guard them from wolves. The third was nepotism, a word that derives from the

00:05:46.180 Latin for nephew. This comes from the polite way of describing how the popes of old, when they were

00:05:52.200 still allowed to have children, would favour them. Popes and prelates showed their relatives

00:05:57.620 showered them with wealth and offices, treating them with the patrimony of the church as if it

00:06:04.220 were a family estate. Nowhere was this worldliness more scandalous than at the highest offices of

00:06:12.300 the Holy Church. The Renaissance papacy justly earned its awful reputation, so much so that 1.00

00:06:18.200 you don't even need to exaggerate to be damning. Alexander VI, born Rodrigo Borgia, was widely

00:06:26.500 believed to have purchased his election in 1492. He acknowledged several illegitimate children,

00:06:32.160 among them Cassera and Lucrezia, and his court became well known for its petty politics and

00:06:39.500 decadence. Leo X, the final Pope of the unified Western Church, was cultivated, generous, and

00:06:48.660 altogether secular in temper, but he was more concerned with the affairs of poets and painters

00:06:53.860 than of sinners, some would say. Many of the Popes were able rulers and discerning patrons of genius,

00:07:01.620 which made the irony even more bitter. The same papacy which commissioned the beautiful ceiling

00:07:06.900 of the Sistine Chapel did so whilst neglecting the spiritual office it existed to serve.

00:07:14.340 When the guardians of the faith began to conduct themselves as princes of this world,

00:07:18.860 the faithful began to wonder what came of the kingdom of the next.

00:07:23.580 This extensive list of corruption and scandals is not complete without the resentment bred by money.

00:07:29.400 The church of the age maintained an elaborate system of gathering as much money as possible

00:07:34.260 from the congregation. The annets levied meant that the first year's income of any church officials

00:07:40.200 was entirely paid to Rome. There were fees and dispensations, appointments and appeals alongside

00:07:47.560 tithes and offerings beyond counting. In the German lands especially, which lacked the strong

00:07:53.760 central monarchy of France and England to protect them from church overreach, there was a strong

00:07:58.700 sense that the wealth of a hard-working and pious people was being siphoned to fund the luxuries of

00:08:04.940 Italian churchmen. It is true that much of the money was destined for genuine purposes, including

00:08:11.000 the defence of Christendom against the advancing Ottoman Turks, whose armies had taken Constantinople

00:08:16.800 in 1453. But popular grievance really cares about fine distinctions, and the common cry that German

00:08:23.460 gold was raising Roman palaces was both catchy and true enough to rally the commoners.

00:08:31.040 Beneath the level of popes and prelates lay a quieter scandal, that of the ordinary clergy.

00:08:38.480 Many priests were barely literate and unable to preach a coherent sermon or to teach their

00:08:44.040 people in the simplest matters of the faith. Vows of celibacy were widely ignored, and clerical

00:08:50.180 marriage though officially condemned was in many places an open secret. This poorly formed worldly 0.81

00:08:57.000 clergy could hardly be expected to nourish the souls in their charge. The spiritual hunger of

00:09:03.400 the laity was left largely unfed by the official church and so they turned towards private devotion,

00:09:09.960 mysticism and in the end towards the reformers.

00:09:13.200 these church failings did not go unacknowledged until luther as is often thought the belief that

00:09:21.180 the church had lost its way was not a novel idea the long agony of the great western schism which

00:09:27.520 lasted from 1378 to 1417 when two or more rival claimants each styled themselves as the true pope

00:09:35.060 and held anathemas at the others had already gone and done grievous injury to the papal office in

00:09:41.000 the eyes of Europe. Reformers and critics had risen in every generation. The Englishman, John

00:09:46.920 Wycliffe, and the Bohemian, Jan Hus, challenged the wealth and pretensions of the hierarchy.

00:09:53.720 Hus was burned at the Council of Constance in 1415, in spite of a promise of safe conduct.

00:09:59.500 An act of bad faith the Bohemians never forgot. In Florence, the Dominican fire, 0.96

00:10:05.000 Gurglomo Savonarola, excuse my French, funded against corruption until he too was burned alive

00:10:12.180 in 1498. Saint Catherine of Siena had earlier written to popes imploring them to cleanse the

00:10:18.880 church and to return from their long exile in Avignon. Even in Luther's own day, Erasmus of

00:10:25.740 Rotterdam, who remained a Catholic to his death, criticised clerical folly and greed with cynical

00:10:31.780 humour in his praise of folly, and worked for a reform of manners and learning from within.

00:10:40.580 It was said that Erasmus laid the egg that Luther hatched, though Erasmus sharply replied that he 0.84

00:10:46.340 had laid a hen's egg and Luther had hatched a fighting cock. Even during the Reformation, 0.56

00:10:52.200 when the church was splitting, many of its most prominent critics hoped to remain unified with

00:10:57.080 Rome. Why then did this protest, and not the many before it, fully split the church?

00:11:04.520 Although the corruption was relevant, the tipping point was much more related to the

00:11:09.240 new circumstances of the world in 1500. Chief among the critical technologies was the printing

00:11:15.360 press, which was hardly two generations old. This enabled the mass production of books,

00:11:21.260 allowing Luther's writings to be copied and scattered across the German lands with a speed

00:11:26.120 never before seen. Luther's works sold in tens of thousands of copies and the pamphlet became a

00:11:32.720 weapon. The second critical factor was the political situation in northern Germany.

00:11:39.000 The German princes had numerous reasons of their own, some pious and some worldly,

00:11:43.740 to resist the authority of both the Holy Roman Emperor and the Pope. Martin Luther's protector,

00:11:50.880 Frederick the Wise of Saxony, guarded him from the papal forces sent to arrest him before they

00:11:56.040 could execute him for heresy. Lastly, we arrive at the theology of the Reformation, and it is the

00:12:04.280 most misunderstood factor of them all. The source of Luther's grievances was not simply the church

00:12:09.700 was corrupt in its morals. Luther judged that the church had corrupted the very gospel,

00:12:15.420 obscuring the free grace of God beneath a system of works, merits, and payments.

00:12:19.880 his doctrine that managed justified by faith alone and his appeal to the authority of scripture

00:12:27.320 over that of the pope and council was rooted specifically in providing a theological solution

00:12:32.740 that would permanently stifle the corruption common in his day to him abusers may have been

00:12:39.360 reformed within the church which they were but these changes did not ensure that further abuse

00:12:44.980 could not start again. Whilst the Reformation may have begun as a simple revolt against bad

00:12:51.620 behaviour, Luther overcorrected and it ended up producing changes in the doctrine of how

00:12:57.620 souls are saved. The intention may have been good, intending to prevent the corruption of men from

00:13:04.340 ever again leading to the corruption of the faith, but the change in itself was a corruption of the

00:13:09.580 faith. He added the word alone to Romans 3.28, manipulating the very word of God to suit his

00:13:16.960 cause. What of the church herself? The church did work to curb its abuses using the means laid out

00:13:25.180 for her centuries ago, through the counter-reformation. The Council of Trent, which sat

00:13:31.280 across three periods between 1545 and 1563, did not deny the wrongdoings. It named and condemned

00:13:38.320 them. It required bishops to reside in their dioceses and to preach. It forbade the plurality

00:13:44.380 of officers. It established seminaries so that priests would be properly formed and trained.

00:13:49.540 And in its final session, it issued a decree upon indulgences that affirmed their legitimate use

00:13:55.000 whilst abolishing outright the money-seeking practices that had provoked Luther in the first

00:14:00.000 place, ordering that all base gain for the obtaining of them be wholly done away with.

00:14:04.720 new religious orders sprang up chief among them the society of jesus founded by ignatius of loyola

00:14:11.620 and within them a company of reforming saints charles borromeo one of my patron saints was

00:14:18.600 the model of a diligent bishop as well as saint therese of avila and saint philip of saint philip

00:14:24.540 neary the greatest tragedy is that these reforms came just too late to preserve the unity of

00:14:30.720 Christendom. The hasty attempt to change doctrine led to numerous wars, resulting in the deaths of

00:14:37.420 up to 20 million Christians. So what are we to conclude? That the corruption of the Catholic

00:14:44.860 Church was real and serious, but in the end it was resolved by the Church's own highest

00:14:50.420 authorities. We must note that the changes in doctrine devised by the Reformers were motivated

00:14:56.640 not simply by theological failures but by misunderstandings on either side. The practical

00:15:02.640 changes were generally slight and were intended to ensure that the church could never again

00:15:07.360 justify the abuses of the past by twisting the words of the gospel. The explosion of thousands

00:15:13.600 of different denominations and the fracturing of the body of Christ was not something intended by

00:15:18.200 the reformers but their method of reformation made it inevitable. The precedent they set whereby

00:15:25.220 spiritual authority was independent of any organized body meant that there would never

00:15:29.720 again be a unified church. But there would be millions of men who style themselves as

00:15:35.400 their own popes, tapping into the sin of pride to make an idol of self. In his own words,

00:15:41.500 Luther said of his faith, quote, I am more afraid of my own heart than of the Pope and

00:15:48.040 all his cardinals. I have within me the great Pope. Self. End quote.

00:15:56.180 The job was done.

00:15:57.920 The church was reformed, but the baby had been thrown out with the bath water.

00:16:01.760 And now, half a millennium later, the baby has spawned a thousand offspring in different regions with entirely different belief sets.

00:16:10.540 It's difficult to get the family back together.

00:16:12.940 But we must pray and work towards a reunited church.

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00:17:25.900 I'm now joined by my guest, Mark Mitchell.

00:17:28.100 Mark, thank you for joining us.

00:17:29.060 How are you?

00:17:30.180 Great to be here.

00:17:30.920 Thanks for having me.

00:17:31.940 Now, you've been through a bit of a journey yourself

00:17:34.380 as one of the most famous or infamous pollsters

00:17:38.220 in the United States of America.

00:17:40.920 You just talked to me before we came on air

00:17:42.480 and you said you're finally free.

00:17:43.640 What does that mean to our viewers?

00:17:45.220 so i've had a long career journey navy financial services venture capital and after the covet

00:17:53.220 vaccines i found myself looking for something interesting and part-time and i knew the people

00:17:57.560 at rasmussen reports and they were desperate for somebody uh it had been basically dying for years

00:18:02.940 because they had no public face and i came in and did that and quite frankly did a lot better than

00:18:08.240 most of the people in the industry because i'm honest like that's really basically all it is

00:18:13.020 what I'm learning more and more is that the industry is completely corrupt and is owned by

00:18:18.520 interests who are willing to pay significant sums of money, like 100 times more than the actual

00:18:24.120 polling costs because they want a particular outcome. And I don't do that, which is why

00:18:29.500 there's very few of us, me and Rich Barris, basically, who are willing to try and scrape

00:18:34.680 along on a YouTuber living because we won't take the money from these people. And what's fascinating

00:18:40.580 is how rapidly people think that I betrayed the Trump movement by objectively thinking,

00:18:46.860 look, Trump's running on all of these things that are great for the American people.

00:18:50.880 I objectively think that that's good for America to all of a sudden Trump is completely not

00:18:56.180 delivering on those things and he needs to be called out. And all of a sudden,

00:19:00.800 you know, an independent pollster, everybody's like, oh, you got TDS. Well, it's like, no,

00:19:05.420 I'm representing the American people. So for five years at Rasmussen, that was my goal to

00:19:10.420 represent the american people and i gained more and more of a following and it got me to the point

00:19:15.820 where i got a chance to go talk to trump last november and lay out very clearly what he should

00:19:21.600 do if he wanted to win in the november midterm elections and he basically did none of that in

00:19:25.960 fact he did the exact opposite and then i was very vocal and actually running polling behind 0.73

00:19:31.700 the scenes to try and stop the iran war because i knew it would be absolutely stupid i think i

00:19:36.540 was vindicated but what happened is there a group of us who i thought were independent formed a

00:19:44.100 conglomerate better serve the american people the national association and bolsters well it turns

00:19:49.800 out my credibility had gotten us to a point where a large trump political action committee check was

00:19:56.140 on the table for the very first time for rasmussen reports and it hadn't been there before and i was

00:20:01.840 told specifically that my criticism of Trump was endangering that and hurting the business.

00:20:07.400 And so at that point in February, they silenced me. And so I started my journey to go out on my

00:20:13.040 own. And it's really easy because polling's really easy to do. The hard part is not lying

00:20:18.780 and maintaining credibility. Right. And I do want to get to the Trump stuff, but put that on the

00:20:22.840 backbencher for a moment. Polling itself, I used to be involved in politics. And I've always said

00:20:28.100 the only poll that matters is the one on election day because I've never trusted the polling

00:20:32.300 industry. Was this instinct right? And if so, why? Yeah, like that's exactly right. So everybody

00:20:40.120 thinks that a pollster is putting out election predictions. I don't think that's correct. I think

00:20:45.240 what a pollster is really putting out is data that you can use to say, okay, well, if the election

00:20:50.180 were held today, this is what I think it looks like. And it's not always right, but you can take

00:20:56.180 any data stream and calibrate it or use it. And it's some information I'm providing information

00:21:01.160 to. Now, what we've learned is that that can be manipulated in many different ways for a bunch

00:21:06.400 of different actors for a bunch of different reasons. And often because polling is so difficult

00:21:11.140 to understand and because they lie about it so much in the media, the voter just gets one-shotted

00:21:16.760 by all these lies. And so what was happening, for instance, back in the summer of 2024 is that

00:21:23.120 everybody was basically given Kamala Harrison an extra 5, 6, 7 points of stank. And they, at the

00:21:29.420 end, they cleaned their numbers up and came back closer to where I was. So what they try and do

00:21:35.000 is manage their track record. They'll overstate Dems in the presidential cycle. They'll understate 0.81

00:21:41.180 Dems in a midterm cycle because it'll balance out in the averages on the scorecards. And they will

00:21:46.860 lie like when they can get a headline out of it like a bunch of pollsters back in april 2025 all

00:21:53.660 just at once dumped these bad numbers for trump specifically so they could get an abc news headline

00:21:58.620 that said trump had the worst polling at the 100 day mark of any president and of course the numbers 0.92

00:22:03.140 came back up like a month after that so it's all fake and gay is really what the big takeaway is 0.93

00:22:08.080 that that concerns because with a data set you can provide different sets of information right 0.85

00:22:13.100 You can twist the data into different information.

00:22:16.380 However, it seems that that's not even the case of what's happening.

00:22:19.120 It's worse than that.

00:22:20.120 They're not showing the data and they're not producing information.

00:22:23.200 They're producing what they want the results to be.

00:22:25.620 In a sense, it seems like they're trying to influence events rather than report on events.

00:22:30.220 Right, 100%.

00:22:31.080 And some of the data that they put out is still good.

00:22:33.200 And so I can't just say, like, Reuters, Ipsos, throw that out.

00:22:37.020 There's useful information you can glean from it if you know what they're doing, yada, yada, yada.

00:22:42.780 but the problem is is that you can't rely on track record anymore polling used to be very expensive

00:22:48.300 and so it would be the universities and large corporations like gallup that did it and then it

00:22:53.660 got commoditized and now everybody can poll and what happens is the business is more about lobbying

00:23:01.420 and so what you do is you poll as a loss leader to get that big lobbyist check so you can lie for

00:23:06.940 the american beverage association and trick republican voters into thinking that republican

00:23:11.660 voters want soda in snap benefits which they don't like i'll ask the question they do not want that

00:23:17.660 and yet somehow they were able to get republican pollsters by spending two million dollars to get

00:23:23.620 that outcome and so what happens is the whole idea of credibility is gone because people have

00:23:29.400 a track record but they're constantly managing that like they're trying to manage their lies

00:23:34.460 into that right and so in my opinion the only way you can trust somebody now is if they're willing

00:23:39.840 to attack everybody. I polled about Pfizer. I polled about election integrity. I've been polling

00:23:47.840 about corporations and how they need to be reined in. All of this stuff is widely unpopular if you

00:23:53.960 want to get a Washington, D.C. fat lobbyist. We've seen very similar things in Britain in that

00:23:58.800 one of the major polling companies, YouGov, was founded by a former government minister before

00:24:03.920 he became a government minister. Coincidentally, it always found in favor of him and his policies

00:24:08.440 and the government's policies.

00:24:09.780 And people are starting to wake up

00:24:11.360 and see through this,

00:24:12.520 that the lobbying influences the polling

00:24:14.720 and the polling influences the policy.

00:24:17.320 But for people that aren't yet aware

00:24:19.280 or aren't yet awake,

00:24:20.340 what should they be looking out for?

00:24:21.700 Like say we have another pandemic

00:24:23.100 and we get all these polls to sing,

00:24:24.800 this is what needs to happen

00:24:26.160 or this is what the government needs to do.

00:24:27.500 What can the viewers look out for

00:24:30.040 to have some trust

00:24:31.400 or where can they look to find integrity

00:24:33.140 in this industry?

00:24:35.000 Well, they can go to a place called the Honest Poll.

00:24:37.660 I mean, it really comes down to not a single person in the industry, except Rich Barris did, except for me at Rasmussen Reports, polled about the vaccine safety and side effects.

00:24:49.900 And a lot of money got spent on polling, but it was all establishment polling.

00:24:54.220 I think the right frame of reference to use is it's not that polling is any more Republican versus Democrat.

00:25:01.240 It's establishment versus anti-establishment.

00:25:03.840 And I think if these people are aware of that and already leaning into anti-establishment

00:25:07.820 news sources that they trust, that the same goes for pollsters, as you really do need

00:25:12.420 to sort of, well, it's the age of authenticity.

00:25:14.620 That's why podcasts are skyrocketing.

00:25:17.080 So I mean, like, you know, if you want to engage in polling, listen to somebody putting

00:25:23.140 out content.

00:25:23.940 And if you feel like they're lying to you or being misdirected, it's the same with all

00:25:27.360 news.

00:25:28.080 I think that's good.

00:25:28.700 I think people have for a long time trusted the experts, but COVID did away with all that

00:25:32.640 because we realize a lot of the experts are just establishment and actually people want truth they

00:25:37.260 want integrity they want authenticity as you say and they're finding that in the independent

00:25:41.180 sector whether that's independent media or independent polling so you've set up honest

00:25:46.180 polling are you on your own with this what how big is it and what's what's the plan with this

00:25:51.880 uh you know we're going to put out to start monthly tracking polls and i have some clients

00:25:57.580 that i'm going to do polling for and we're going to do the kind of stories that i covered at rasmus

00:26:01.500 reports, which is like, I'm interested in a lot of these new things that the Republican party is

00:26:07.380 incapable of grasping with. They need a more nuanced conversation. So for instance, oh,

00:26:12.860 look at that. Socialism is skyrocketing. Well, you're not going to win by browbeating people

00:26:17.200 about how great capitalism was 50 years ago. That's losing strategy. And so the right needs

00:26:21.700 to convert this sort of like nebulous economic populism into a very pragmatic platform that

00:26:27.560 people can believe in the future of. They are nowhere near that. Another one I'm really

00:26:31.860 interested in is this idea of the fourth turning and about how basically every institution is

00:26:37.440 bereft of integrity and yet younger voters are craving accountability and structure and order

00:26:45.220 and integrity and not ideology. And that's a very big thing, for instance, that the church could

00:26:50.420 take advantage of. There's a huge opportunity there. Everybody's sleeping on it. I've done a

00:26:54.180 of poll so i'm going to cover things like this and nobody's really doing it and and so it'll

00:26:59.220 be a public sentiment website there will be a paywall like people can read stuff some of it's

00:27:02.900 free some of it's for not and then we'll grow the youtube channel and uh you know it's me i'll make

00:27:08.580 i'll make a living but i won't take a check from big pharma or big soda or big illegal alien which

00:27:15.860 is something a big story is coming out on that that we were involved in like the the trump

00:27:20.180 administration is just as bad as everybody else. I can believe it. And I want to get to the church

00:27:24.580 stuff. And perhaps that's a private conversation for afterwards. And what can we as the church be

00:27:28.440 doing? But let's let's get to Trump, as I said, we would. What did you advise him to do in order

00:27:33.440 to win the midterms? And what has he ignored? What do you what do the polls still show that

00:27:37.260 he should be looking at? So he came out in the second term, pretty strong. But now everybody

00:27:43.000 says, well, his first term was better. I mean, it's a strong majority of people who say that

00:27:47.320 he was better in his first term. And the bar was a lot lower back then. And he seemed to face a lot

00:27:53.120 more external systematic challenges. So that's not the way it should be. And he had the winning

00:27:58.160 platform. It was restore trust in federal institutions, get all of the illegals out, 1.00

00:28:03.000 use Doge to reform the federal government and drain the swamp. That's literally all he had to 0.96

00:28:07.340 do. Now, obviously that's a huge uphill battle. And people ultimately sense that, especially

00:28:12.480 younger people because they were leaning into authoritarian aspects of what trump was putting

00:28:17.780 out in february and march like they wanted judges arrested they agreed with the napoleon quote about

00:28:23.940 he you know who saves his country violence no laws by like six i mean like this was the younger

00:28:28.960 people like finally a republican president that gets it and then between sort of like april and

00:28:34.740 july actually april and really october there was just string of symbolic humiliation one after the 0.90

00:28:41.420 other right it's like liberation day was kind of retarded the one big beautiful bill was mostly just 0.84

00:28:47.420 a republican pork bill and they got rid of yeah the opposite of doge then they got rid of doge 0.88

00:28:53.420 oh do we have doge was still around no not the way people want it right and that's why opinion

00:28:59.180 matters because it like the right is so they've turned into npcs they're so pedantic they're like

00:29:05.100 oh well you know doge is still operating and it's like we thought we were going to get a trillion

00:29:10.060 less out of the deficit bro like it's not the same thing then midnight hammer happened then he called

00:29:16.060 the people that wanted the epstein transparency like he attacked them and didn't want them as

00:29:20.540 followers then he was fighting about the affordability crisis and talking about how 0.99

00:29:24.380 great high home values were it's just the chinese students the h1bs it was just hit after hit 1.00

00:29:30.060 so i was going nuts on the internet saying like this is not tenable you're losing your base like 0.99

00:29:35.260 like you're betraying people. Like he even went into the special election midterms in November

00:29:41.300 with a government shutdown with no plan. It was just retarded. So when I went there, 1.00

00:29:47.020 it was like, you're going to lose the midterms. And the reason is that people think that you plus

00:29:51.980 Republicans can't govern. And if you're going to win the midterms, you have to show them that you

00:29:56.260 can govern by not saying we're in a golden age, but by showing people that voting for Republicans

00:30:01.020 will bring you down a path through the golden age. And to do that, you have to be very specific

00:30:05.720 about what the problems are. And it's the federal government's been occupied by corporatists and

00:30:10.920 deep state people. And the American people haven't seen a reconciliation of that. You need

00:30:16.320 to show a visible reconciliation of the federal government. And you need to focus on economic

00:30:21.220 populism in a way that's aimed at showing the younger generations that they have a future under

00:30:26.540 republican rule and that's tough because you would have to do things like make your oligarchic friends

00:30:33.940 mad at you is ultimately the problem the feeling i got from the white house is that there was no 0.96

00:30:38.900 interest engaging in engaging in this because they really didn't give a crap about people under 50 to 0.96

00:30:44.040 be honest with you and he was more interested in talking about lindsey graham's golf drive and how 0.65

00:30:48.780 great the statues that the billionaires were going to bring him the next meeting after me

00:30:52.660 So, you know, it was helpful for me, like, to get that off my chest. But the idea that somehow, like, Susie was going to incorporate that into some, like, long-term strategic 10-year plan to fix the country is, like, just bad. Like, it's insane.

00:31:08.420 Like the, and obviously it's the establishment Republican interests aren't interested in

00:31:13.760 unwinding the corporate welfare that pervades the Republican party.

00:31:17.500 They have, you know, there's the Pfizer's and the people like that.

00:31:20.720 They, there's the foreign interests and the Intel interests and the neoconservative interests

00:31:26.960 and the, and I got really the feeling and people were telling me this, like reading

00:31:32.280 between the lines that the Trump white house is basically captured by Rupert Murdoch's

00:31:36.540 Fox News is what it really comes down to. This is government by Fox News. What this boils down to

00:31:43.320 is boomer establishment versus everyone else. And if someone's not willing to take on the 0.56

00:31:49.980 boomer establishment, which we all thought Trump was, then things are going to get worse. The point

00:31:54.000 that you keep making about the younger generation is they are more authoritarian, they are more

00:31:57.660 socialist, they are more nationalist. Eventually, that becomes some form of, well, potentially

00:32:03.780 fascist national socialism which is where young people tend to be leaning because they're looking

00:32:09.720 for solutions and no one is willing to help in any way shape or form they're on their own

00:32:13.700 and so at some point if they ever get into power it's going to look very different to what we see 1.00

00:32:18.140 now and this will be the direct result of the the boomer establishment on both sides of the house

00:32:22.180 trump was you know they call me this right like the zoomers they say well you're they call me a

00:32:29.120 boomer and they say well you're one of the rare old heads that get it well that's what trump was

00:32:33.220 right he was literally the king of twitter he understood how to use that app better than most

00:32:37.540 zoomers now do today yeah and all of that has been unwound like i supported this guy personally

00:32:43.600 for years i was one of the frog posters you know what i mean like and he's just not the same guy

00:32:47.700 he became a boomer awfully fast i think some of it's like willfully surrounding himself with all

00:32:52.400 these people that want to maintain the status quo and i think some of it's he's sort of out of fight

00:32:58.080 and he just wants to convince himself he has a winning legacy and i guess there's some of that

00:33:02.940 uh but he's just not the same man and the young people know it like i haven't seen an actual

00:33:08.100 organic meme about trump that was funny in probably a year and a half and you know they're

00:33:13.240 putting their own memes out which is pretty wild and again it's like okay well twitter's not

00:33:17.040 the real world and it's like well for the under 50 it like kind of is now and they're going to be

00:33:22.700 sorely sorely uh like confused when we go to total global war and they call up the draft and

00:33:30.560 these people have no interest in fighting. These are people that have been watching videos for

00:33:35.020 three years now of poor Russians in a ditch getting a hand grenade dropped on their head

00:33:39.340 from the throne. This isn't World War II where people didn't know that they were going to have

00:33:42.820 to like walk out of the landing craft. You know what I mean? And that's like, I feel that that's

00:33:47.800 coming and America has felt that a major war is coming for a long time too. America is actually

00:33:52.880 pretty afraid of a civil war and is more concerned about domestic violence and domestic terrorism

00:33:57.740 than foreign terrorism believe it or not like this whole idea that you can just like blame the brown

00:34:03.020 brown islamists somehow and get your total war is not going to fly with these people either and

00:34:08.880 these are the people that are going to have to fight your war so that like again then we're 0.78

00:34:13.400 leaning into maybe some period of statism where we try like i just don't know where it's going to 0.91

00:34:18.580 go but as you can see with like you said the boomers we're at pretty close to a major political 0.70

00:34:24.860 inflection point where the unideological under 50 voter is going to to glom on to some new set

00:34:33.360 of values and challenge the boomers and they will lose they're they're losing like every

00:34:39.100 um like year they're they're losing a couple million people we're gaining a couple million 0.95

00:34:44.060 young voters like between now and uh 2028 young voters are going to have like five million more

00:34:51.080 votes in voting power and then they're going to start dying out of congress so uh you know like

00:34:58.340 there will be rapid change it's probably not going to be built on the post-world war ii

00:35:03.240 like founding mythology like it's just not right like no that entire generation is timing out

00:35:08.740 within the next five to seven years the building generation will be all out of office most of them

00:35:13.080 will be dead which means that something else is going to come and take their place and i think

00:35:18.160 personally that the political solutions are at a dead end now. I think Trump was it. People put

00:35:24.420 their hope in Trump. This time a year ago, people were so excited. And it's taken just one year for

00:35:29.060 it all to come crumbling apart for all the reasons that you've listed previously. But for that reason,

00:35:33.040 I don't think anyone under 40 can trust an establishment politician ever again, whether

00:35:37.680 they're Republican or Democrat, which means that something else is going to fill their shoes. And

00:35:41.700 I think you're right in that they also without an ideology under 40. And that means that some

00:35:46.920 someone or something else can step in now that could be very dangerous and toxic or it could be

00:35:50.840 very good and you alluded earlier to the fact that the church could be doing more so what could we as

00:35:55.860 the church be doing to fill that gap if we wanted to create a beautiful theocracy that is founded

00:36:01.620 in christian values not judeo-christian values not islamo-judean christian values but christian

00:36:05.840 values to restore christendom rather than whatever uh fascist alternative is on the horizon what

00:36:11.280 should we be doing? So I think the process we're going through is iterative, where the right

00:36:17.540 learned that they needed a grassroots movement. That was the Tea Party. Then they realized they

00:36:22.820 needed an outsider avatar for a grassroots movement. That was Trump. And I think that

00:36:28.060 they've seen that they've been betrayed by the establishment enough that they know who the

00:36:32.000 Republican Party is. And the Republican Party is clinging into this post-World War II boomer,

00:36:38.060 like Reagan, like trickle down, conservative, liberal, feminized,

00:36:45.160 like set of individualistic values that are, you know, idealizing the structure of our past

00:36:56.020 institutions. And by not understanding that things will change, I fear that what's going

00:37:02.940 to happen with the establishment Republican, I said this in a tweet, is that they will become 0.76

00:37:07.280 the effigy of boomers that the young people burn. They are a very convenient target because the left 0.90

00:37:13.000 is not. So now you look at the church and traditionally the right has been more Christian 0.90

00:37:18.480 than the left has. But then you look at what like boomer feminized mainline denomination churches 0.55

00:37:25.540 have done in the United States. And they've created this value set that's like, well, 0.83

00:37:30.340 we're all going to hug and hear a message about salvation. And there's not going to be a lot of

00:37:35.840 talk about worldview or what is good or wrong in the world and how we would use our role as moral

00:37:43.580 leaders to change society, to improve things for people and spread Christianity. And everybody

00:37:50.100 looks at Christianity, in my opinion, and says, well, there should be a revival. Christianity's 0.79

00:37:54.460 got a lot of answers to this. And what I say to that is you can't force a revival, it's pull.

00:38:00.240 Like the message has to match what the people who are most upset want to see. And what, like you said, what they want to see is order and they want to be prioritized. They want structure. They want a life back. They want something to live for essentially. And that's the problem with the under 50 voters. They've been not given something to live for. And I have a ton of polling like, you know, only 35% say that today's children will be better off than their parents. That means the American dream's dead.

00:38:29.760 And so these people think the system hates them, like 70% of them think the economic system is like purposely focuses on being bad to the young people. So there's all these metrics, right? Their women suck, their jobs suck, they can't get a house. And so right now they're playing video games because they don't have power and they're being repressed.

00:38:51.340 And so, like, they will be the fuel, I think, of whatever happens.

00:38:55.980 The question is, like, who leads and what's the movement and what riles these people up?

00:39:02.280 And Christianity could provide order.

00:39:05.340 Christianity could provide world.

00:39:06.340 And I'll give you one example just from the polling of why I'm seeing things that show me this.

00:39:12.560 So if you ask people what their religion is, older voters have a higher Christian world identification.

00:39:19.320 Now, it tends to be mainline.

00:39:20.840 is dying, like dying by age. Younger people are becoming evangelicals or Catholics. They're not

00:39:27.160 going to mainline churches. Mainline denominations have like 20 years till they're gone in the United

00:39:31.700 States, I think. So older people have higher mainline ID or Christian ID. But then we asked

00:39:38.120 a question, just one random question. How important is it to refrain from premarital sex for young 0.83

00:39:44.540 people? And you saw the opposite. You saw young people who said it was more important. And the 0.73

00:39:49.820 older people are like, ah, like who cares? And what was really wild was the male under 40 who 0.73

00:39:55.340 almost 60% of them said it was important. So the church, because it's become feminized, 0.57

00:40:01.760 in my opinion, the mainline denomination pastor is preaching towards a 70 year old

00:40:06.060 MSNBC watcher in the front row who will get up and leave. If you don't take like just the

00:40:13.480 positions I've seen have been like insane. Like the Senate chaplain came to my town and preached

00:40:19.180 in this auditorium we have. And he told this long story about the power of prayer in the Senate and

00:40:24.120 about how they're having a daily prayer meeting ever since Russia invaded Ukraine. And the punch

00:40:30.060 line was that, wow, we have 60 senators coming to this now and they're all praying and it's so great

00:40:34.520 and God's working. And because of this, Ukraine has been able to hold out against Russia. Well,

00:40:41.280 it's like Russian troops are mostly Christian and they're dying and this is Christians killing 0.93

00:40:46.380 christians and there's people doing bad things on both sides and and probably the most christian

00:40:51.900 world view christ-like thing out of this is to let's not have this war and get out of it as soon

00:40:56.900 as possible that's not what the establishment wants and so i think in many ways the church

00:41:01.400 has been co-opted by this you know boomer world order that we have and they aren't going to use

00:41:09.580 the church to provide order for the young people that should be building new families and carrying

00:41:16.100 christianity further to other generations and i don't think anybody's really talking about this

00:41:21.480 to be honest with you it's so true i mean that's the purpose of this show and that's the purpose

00:41:25.760 of this network to restore christendom and to help people equip people to fight this spiritual war

00:41:30.880 that we're in with basic truths that we've known for 2 000 years that people are afraid to say now

00:41:35.840 because the people are more afraid of the world than they are of the of god himself and so the 0.96

00:41:40.880 church has become worldly and you're right effeminate and gay and it should be masculine 0.96

00:41:44.960 it should be muscular it should be a patriarchy we should be passing on the truth and we're afraid 0.95

00:41:49.520 to not all of us of course but generally speaking the church is afraid to i think you're spot on

00:41:54.320 and i hope that more pastors can watch this and take something away from this if they want to

00:41:58.960 find out the data if they want to see the information uh where can they go the honest

00:42:04.160 poll.com is the website it's just a splash page now but the second i get my first poll out probably

00:42:09.440 early next week i'll have the whole website up you sign up for a free newsletter i promise not

00:42:14.640 to abuse it and again i'm not taking the the paychecks you know what i mean like i'm not

00:42:20.800 selling out so i would appreciate it people come support me there'll be a cheap paywall and you'll

00:42:24.800 get all the crosstabs in the poll and all my commentary uh the youtube channel i'm going to

00:42:29.360 kick back up we had a really healthy youtube channel going before i got shut down so we'll

00:42:33.280 be doing that and then on twitter i'm at honest pollster and the polling company is at honest

00:42:40.560 poll co so i'd love for people to come and follow uh you know i make some pretty insane takes um

00:42:46.080 i've been sort of on the leading edge of calling out israel influence and that's important because

00:42:50.780 i can measure and israel is literally destroying their influence and so it has to be asked like at

00:42:56.080 what cost and for what gain so i think we're going to see more and more of this with all the money

00:43:00.840 has borrowed spending it's going to be a wild time i think that's actually the major divide

00:43:04.320 when i from britain when i looked at american politics 10 years ago it used to be you could

00:43:08.560 tell someone's politics by their stance on abortion, right? If they're against killing

00:43:11.880 babies, they're Republican. If they're for pro-choice, they're Democrats. Nowadays, it's

00:43:16.680 all about Israel. If you support Israel, you're over 50, you're a boomer, neocon, or neolib,

00:43:20.960 and you care about your own financial, your own pension more than you care about young people.

00:43:24.780 If you don't care about Israel, you're probably America first, you can't afford to buy a house,

00:43:28.640 you can't afford to fill your car tank with gas, and you feel like that you are being oppressed

00:43:33.180 by your own state. Like, that's the dividing line right there, and I don't think everyone

00:43:36.560 has realized it yet but when it comes up it's going to be massive because the whole younger 0.71

00:43:41.440 generations are done with Israel done with Israeli influence done with spending all their money

00:43:46.140 taxpayer money in Israel and the boomers are almost making an idol out of Israel to the point 0.59

00:43:50.700 of to them it's the golden calf and so those when they butt heads it's all going to kick off 0.96

00:43:54.580 these are the things that are very dangerous for the establishment Republican Party that

00:43:59.340 seems to be I hate to say it more neoconservative now than it's probably been at any point in time

00:44:05.020 because trump brought in the new neoconservative financial cash flows and that's what drives the

00:44:10.160 republican party it's like flows of capital and so like i don't see how you unwind that and you

00:44:15.540 know i thought last fall israel is not a big deal but yet their pr is terrible they've lost

00:44:21.800 the palestine for the first time like like this is bad israel should get smarter pr is not working

00:44:28.240 this was the kind of advice i gave out but then the second it became about fighting their expansion 0.88

00:44:34.320 destructionist destabilizing regional war at the cost of really our last chance at a legislative

00:44:42.660 America first like fix before things pop off then it becomes symbolic and I'll tell you they 0.78

00:44:50.080 actually Israel lost 50 percent among the boomers for the very first time just recently so the

00:44:55.380 numbers are going to continue to go down as we drain the strategic petroleum reserve as the

00:45:00.740 Democrats probably make this whole thing in the fall about Israel and Trump and how he lied about

00:45:06.160 no new wars. And it's hard to predict what's going to happen in the fall. There's reasons it could go

00:45:12.000 either way. But I think we have to wait and see. The Democrats have been preparing for this and

00:45:17.840 they have a lot of ammunition. I'd like to see if there's any data to back up my suspicion. But I

00:45:22.100 think everything changed with the death of Charlie Kirk. I think once Charlie was out of the picture,

00:45:26.860 Iran was back on the table.

00:45:29.080 Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Greene were out of the picture.

00:45:31.580 Lindsey Graham and Mike Huckabee were back in the picture.

00:45:34.780 The whole circle around Trump changed from the Avengers who helped him campaign and win

00:45:39.960 the election to the neocons and the neolibs who've been behind the curtains the whole

00:45:43.360 time, hoping to get back in the ring.

00:45:45.920 And the death of Charlie seems to be that dividing point where one group was out and

00:45:49.260 the other group was back in.

00:45:51.160 In November, when I went to the White House, I was told this.

00:45:53.960 Trump talks to people all day. It's people like Larry Ellison and Rupert Murdoch and Sean Hannity

00:46:00.420 and Lindsey Graham. And they told me that Charlie dying was a very big blow to the White House

00:46:06.840 because Charlie was a powerful moderating force and a champion, really the only champion that

00:46:13.280 younger voters had in the Trump administration. And they were desperate to try and get other

00:46:17.980 voices in that Trump would glom onto. That's why they brought me, they brought Rich Barrison,

00:46:21.540 they brought Jack Posobiec in, they probably brought a bunch of other people in. And I think

00:46:25.240 what they're doing is just throwing stuff at Trump to see what would stick. And like, you know, I'm

00:46:30.080 not a kiss ass. So like, I didn't stick. You know what I mean? And I think we don't have a Charlie 0.96

00:46:37.780 Kirk replacement, obviously, because we're in Iran and he would have staunchly opposed this

00:46:43.580 because it's symbolic. There's all these symbolic things about the Trump administration. That's what

00:46:48.540 I don't think that they're going to be able to escape.

00:46:51.020 It's just they've probably got billions 0.85

00:46:54.380 of Chinese laundered act blue money 0.54

00:46:56.580 and they're just going to play reels of Trump

00:46:59.800 betraying his base over and over again.

00:47:01.880 It could be really bad.

00:47:04.240 And just before we wrap up,

00:47:05.640 the one thing I forgot to bring up,

00:47:06.840 you mentioned earlier in that

00:47:07.920 I think one of the major downfalls with Trump

00:47:10.960 was when he attacked his own base.

00:47:12.780 This whole panicans thing

00:47:14.060 of people who've supported him for years

00:47:16.040 or maybe not even for years,

00:47:17.040 but in the last election,

00:47:17.820 people who really got behind him and got excited. And suddenly they are the enemy.

00:47:21.920 That I think was the defining factor. That was the biggest mistake he's made so far.

00:47:26.480 I can add some color to that. So I know for a fact that a day before he came out at that press

00:47:33.600 release and attacked his base over Epstein, that polling landed on his desk from me that said that

00:47:40.300 only 16% of America agrees with Pam Bondi that the case is closed, but 68% of America thinks

00:47:47.620 there are wealthy and powerful predators who need to go to jail and so this was a very oh epstein

00:47:53.140 is not too high on the list of voters priorities well that is true but also one of the most

00:47:58.660 unpopular things is in america is the idea of two-tiered justice we've pulled it it's 95 unpopular

00:48:04.260 it's like wow people hate the idea of elites just getting away with murder and so this was very

00:48:09.060 symbolic of that and anybody who saw that polling could say well you know like i should tread with

00:48:13.700 with care here. And what is sad is that the solution was so easy, and I hate to say this

00:48:20.920 cynically, it was just to say, you know what? The FBI should investigate this. Pan Bondi's wrong,

00:48:26.000 we're going to investigate. And it would have gone away, taken it from the Democrats. It would

00:48:30.320 have just been a non-issue. It was an unforced error. In politics, there were these unforced

00:48:34.580 errors. He didn't have to say anything, but instead he attacked his own side, who are just

00:48:38.300 He was publicly advocating for the people who he cares most about, and that's his wealthy friends.

00:48:49.420 I think that's what it all comes down to, and this is why there's such a big divide,

00:48:52.260 not just in this country, but in the West, between the wealthy and the ordinary folk,

00:48:56.660 and there's going to be an uprising, there's going to be a change in regime,

00:48:59.740 and I think we're all going to live to see it.

00:49:01.580 Mark Mitchell, thank you very much for your time, God bless you, and keep in touch.

00:49:05.780 Thanks so much, this is a great talk, appreciate it.

00:49:08.300 thank you for watching another episode of the next crusade here on nxr studios it's been a blast

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The NXR Podcast - August 13, 2026

The Next Crusade - Professional Pollster Reveals the Numbers Killing Trump With Young Voters (w⧸Mark Mitchell)

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