The NXR Podcast - August 13, 2026


The Next Crusade - Professional Pollster Reveals the Numbers Killing Trump With Young Voters (w⧸Mark Mitchell)

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00:00:00 Hello and welcome to The Next Crusade with me, Father Calvin Robinson, exclusive to NXR
00:00:25 studios. This is, of course, the show where we look at current events from a Christian perspective
00:00:30 and we address the topics the legacy media does not want to touch with a 10-foot barge pole.
00:00:35 We've got a great show coming up today. We've got Mark Mitchell joining us, the pollster. I want to
00:00:41 get to behind the scenes of partisan politics and how fraudulent and or true these polls are. I've
00:00:48 always said the only poll you can trust is the poll on election day, but let's see what Mark
00:00:52 has to say. As Christians, we talk a lot about the Reformation, and we have touched on the topic a
00:00:57 few times in my monologues over the past few weeks, so I figured we'd spend a bit of time
00:01:02 discussing the origins. People may argue over when it actually began, but the major catalyst
00:01:08 for the movement was on the eve of All Saints Day in the year of 1517 AD, when an Augustinian
00:01:15 friar and professor of theology at the Young University of Wittenberg nailed 95 theses to
00:01:21 the door of the local castle church. Martin Luther certainly did not think that his objection
00:01:27 to what he saw as ecclesiastical abuse would, within the span of a generation, shatter the
00:01:33 religious unity of the Latin West and redraw the map of Europe. To understand why his protest went
00:01:40 so viral, we must look beyond the man to the institution he addressed. The church of the late
00:01:47 15th and 16th centuries was in dire need of reform. The immediate cause of Luther's complaint was the
00:01:55 trade in indulgences, and in particular the campaign entrusted to the Dominican preacher
00:02:00 Johann Tetzel. This story that set him off went something like this. Albrecht of Brandenburg,
00:02:10 an ambitious young nobleman, had conspired to hold the Archbishopric of Mainz,
00:02:14 together with two other sees. To hold multiple ecclesiastical offices at once was strictly
00:02:19 forbidden by canon law, but Albrecht was not concerned with such matters. To secure the
00:02:25 approval that would legitimise his consolidation, he borrowed a vast sum from the Fugger Banking
00:02:31 House of Augsburg. Pope Leo X, who was a Medici with an expensive desire for art, learning,
00:02:39 and the rebuilding of St. Peter's Basilica was happy to grant the dispensation in exchange for
00:02:46 a fee. Half of the proceeds of a great indulgence would be sent to Rome for the Basilica, and the
00:02:52 other half would repay the bankers. Johann Tetzel was the salesman, and the jingle attributed to
00:02:59 him has echoed down the centuries. As soon as the coin in the coffer rings, the soul from purgatory
00:03:06 Springs. This notorious display of corruption left the common people believing that the Catholic 0.97
00:03:12 Church had reduced salvation to a financial transaction. But was the buying and selling
00:03:18 of forgiveness really the official teaching of the Church? The answer, which tends to surprise
00:03:23 those with an oversimplified history, is no. The doctrine of indulgences, when properly understood,
00:03:32 concerns the remission of the temporal punishment due to sins already forgiven.
00:03:36 Drawn from what the church calls the treasury of merit,
00:03:40 it has never held that a sinner might purchase the pardon of guilt itself,
00:03:44 still less a license to sin in future.
00:03:47 In layman's terms, the church allowed your worldly penance
00:03:51 to be in the form of working and giving the proceeds to the church,
00:03:55 rather than requiring that your penance be private prayer and reflection.
00:04:00 The indulgences had nothing to do with going to heaven or hell,
00:04:03 known as eternal punishment, but temporal.
00:04:06 they were simply an alternate form of earthly penance for your past sins that allowed you
00:04:12 to contribute to the church's function in your repentance what tensile and the similar frauds
00:04:19 were peddling was not the doctrine but its abuse a crude and greedy distortion of it
00:04:26 this distinction is critical and the church herself would later insist upon it in the
00:04:32 strongest terms. Yet the ordinary Christian in the marketplace in Wittenberg was, the distinction
00:04:38 was invisible. He saw only that the mercy of God appeared to be for sale. The indulgences were the
00:04:45 most obvious symptom of a deeper rot, and that rot had several names. The first was simony,
00:04:53 the buying and selling of sacred offices. This sin was named after Simon Magus, who, in the Acts of
00:05:00 the Apostles offered the Apostles money for the power of the Holy Spirit. In Luther's day,
00:05:06 bishoprics, abbesses, and lucrative benefices of every kind were routinely obtained through
00:05:12 payment or influence, rather than through fitness for the cure of souls. The second was clerical
00:05:19 pluralism, the practice of holding multiple offices at once. Albrecht of Mainz was such a
00:05:25 flagrant example that it could not be ignored by any. In a similar vein, absenteeism was when a
00:05:32 bishop collected the revenues of a diocese he never actually visited. A shepherd who never sees his
00:05:38 flock cannot easily guard them from wolves. The third was nepotism, a word that derives from the
00:05:46 Latin for nephew. This comes from the polite way of describing how the popes of old, when they were
00:05:52 still allowed to have children, would favour them. Popes and prelates showed their relatives
00:05:57 showered them with wealth and offices, treating them with the patrimony of the church as if it
00:06:04 were a family estate. Nowhere was this worldliness more scandalous than at the highest offices of
00:06:12 the Holy Church. The Renaissance papacy justly earned its awful reputation, so much so that 1.00
00:06:18 you don't even need to exaggerate to be damning. Alexander VI, born Rodrigo Borgia, was widely
00:06:26 believed to have purchased his election in 1492. He acknowledged several illegitimate children,
00:06:32 among them Cassera and Lucrezia, and his court became well known for its petty politics and
00:06:39 decadence. Leo X, the final Pope of the unified Western Church, was cultivated, generous, and
00:06:48 altogether secular in temper, but he was more concerned with the affairs of poets and painters
00:06:53 than of sinners, some would say. Many of the Popes were able rulers and discerning patrons of genius,
00:07:01 which made the irony even more bitter. The same papacy which commissioned the beautiful ceiling
00:07:06 of the Sistine Chapel did so whilst neglecting the spiritual office it existed to serve.
00:07:14 When the guardians of the faith began to conduct themselves as princes of this world,
00:07:18 the faithful began to wonder what came of the kingdom of the next.
00:07:23 This extensive list of corruption and scandals is not complete without the resentment bred by money.
00:07:29 The church of the age maintained an elaborate system of gathering as much money as possible
00:07:34 from the congregation. The annets levied meant that the first year's income of any church officials
00:07:40 was entirely paid to Rome. There were fees and dispensations, appointments and appeals alongside
00:07:47 tithes and offerings beyond counting. In the German lands especially, which lacked the strong
00:07:53 central monarchy of France and England to protect them from church overreach, there was a strong
00:07:58 sense that the wealth of a hard-working and pious people was being siphoned to fund the luxuries of
00:08:04 Italian churchmen. It is true that much of the money was destined for genuine purposes, including
00:08:11 the defence of Christendom against the advancing Ottoman Turks, whose armies had taken Constantinople
00:08:16 in 1453. But popular grievance really cares about fine distinctions, and the common cry that German
00:08:23 gold was raising Roman palaces was both catchy and true enough to rally the commoners.
00:08:31 Beneath the level of popes and prelates lay a quieter scandal, that of the ordinary clergy.
00:08:38 Many priests were barely literate and unable to preach a coherent sermon or to teach their
00:08:44 people in the simplest matters of the faith. Vows of celibacy were widely ignored, and clerical
00:08:50 marriage though officially condemned was in many places an open secret. This poorly formed worldly 0.81
00:08:57 clergy could hardly be expected to nourish the souls in their charge. The spiritual hunger of
00:09:03 the laity was left largely unfed by the official church and so they turned towards private devotion,
00:09:09 mysticism and in the end towards the reformers.
00:09:13 these church failings did not go unacknowledged until luther as is often thought the belief that
00:09:21 the church had lost its way was not a novel idea the long agony of the great western schism which
00:09:27 lasted from 1378 to 1417 when two or more rival claimants each styled themselves as the true pope
00:09:35 and held anathemas at the others had already gone and done grievous injury to the papal office in
00:09:41 the eyes of Europe. Reformers and critics had risen in every generation. The Englishman, John
00:09:46 Wycliffe, and the Bohemian, Jan Hus, challenged the wealth and pretensions of the hierarchy.
00:09:53 Hus was burned at the Council of Constance in 1415, in spite of a promise of safe conduct.
00:09:59 An act of bad faith the Bohemians never forgot. In Florence, the Dominican fire, 0.96
00:10:05 Gurglomo Savonarola, excuse my French, funded against corruption until he too was burned alive
00:10:12 in 1498. Saint Catherine of Siena had earlier written to popes imploring them to cleanse the
00:10:18 church and to return from their long exile in Avignon. Even in Luther's own day, Erasmus of
00:10:25 Rotterdam, who remained a Catholic to his death, criticised clerical folly and greed with cynical
00:10:31 humour in his praise of folly, and worked for a reform of manners and learning from within.
00:10:40 It was said that Erasmus laid the egg that Luther hatched, though Erasmus sharply replied that he 0.84
00:10:46 had laid a hen's egg and Luther had hatched a fighting cock. Even during the Reformation, 0.56
00:10:52 when the church was splitting, many of its most prominent critics hoped to remain unified with
00:10:57 Rome. Why then did this protest, and not the many before it, fully split the church?
00:11:04 Although the corruption was relevant, the tipping point was much more related to the
00:11:09 new circumstances of the world in 1500. Chief among the critical technologies was the printing
00:11:15 press, which was hardly two generations old. This enabled the mass production of books,
00:11:21 allowing Luther's writings to be copied and scattered across the German lands with a speed
00:11:26 never before seen. Luther's works sold in tens of thousands of copies and the pamphlet became a
00:11:32 weapon. The second critical factor was the political situation in northern Germany.
00:11:39 The German princes had numerous reasons of their own, some pious and some worldly,
00:11:43 to resist the authority of both the Holy Roman Emperor and the Pope. Martin Luther's protector,
00:11:50 Frederick the Wise of Saxony, guarded him from the papal forces sent to arrest him before they
00:11:56 could execute him for heresy. Lastly, we arrive at the theology of the Reformation, and it is the
00:12:04 most misunderstood factor of them all. The source of Luther's grievances was not simply the church
00:12:09 was corrupt in its morals. Luther judged that the church had corrupted the very gospel,
00:12:15 obscuring the free grace of God beneath a system of works, merits, and payments.
00:12:19 his doctrine that managed justified by faith alone and his appeal to the authority of scripture
00:12:27 over that of the pope and council was rooted specifically in providing a theological solution
00:12:32 that would permanently stifle the corruption common in his day to him abusers may have been
00:12:39 reformed within the church which they were but these changes did not ensure that further abuse
00:12:44 could not start again. Whilst the Reformation may have begun as a simple revolt against bad
00:12:51 behaviour, Luther overcorrected and it ended up producing changes in the doctrine of how
00:12:57 souls are saved. The intention may have been good, intending to prevent the corruption of men from
00:13:04 ever again leading to the corruption of the faith, but the change in itself was a corruption of the
00:13:09 faith. He added the word alone to Romans 3.28, manipulating the very word of God to suit his
00:13:16 cause. What of the church herself? The church did work to curb its abuses using the means laid out
00:13:25 for her centuries ago, through the counter-reformation. The Council of Trent, which sat
00:13:31 across three periods between 1545 and 1563, did not deny the wrongdoings. It named and condemned
00:13:38 them. It required bishops to reside in their dioceses and to preach. It forbade the plurality
00:13:44 of officers. It established seminaries so that priests would be properly formed and trained.
00:13:49 And in its final session, it issued a decree upon indulgences that affirmed their legitimate use
00:13:55 whilst abolishing outright the money-seeking practices that had provoked Luther in the first
00:14:00 place, ordering that all base gain for the obtaining of them be wholly done away with.
00:14:04 new religious orders sprang up chief among them the society of jesus founded by ignatius of loyola
00:14:11 and within them a company of reforming saints charles borromeo one of my patron saints was
00:14:18 the model of a diligent bishop as well as saint therese of avila and saint philip of saint philip
00:14:24 neary the greatest tragedy is that these reforms came just too late to preserve the unity of
00:14:30 Christendom. The hasty attempt to change doctrine led to numerous wars, resulting in the deaths of
00:14:37 up to 20 million Christians. So what are we to conclude? That the corruption of the Catholic
00:14:44 Church was real and serious, but in the end it was resolved by the Church's own highest
00:14:50 authorities. We must note that the changes in doctrine devised by the Reformers were motivated
00:14:56 not simply by theological failures but by misunderstandings on either side. The practical
00:15:02 changes were generally slight and were intended to ensure that the church could never again
00:15:07 justify the abuses of the past by twisting the words of the gospel. The explosion of thousands
00:15:13 of different denominations and the fracturing of the body of Christ was not something intended by
00:15:18 the reformers but their method of reformation made it inevitable. The precedent they set whereby
00:15:25 spiritual authority was independent of any organized body meant that there would never
00:15:29 again be a unified church. But there would be millions of men who style themselves as
00:15:35 their own popes, tapping into the sin of pride to make an idol of self. In his own words,
00:15:41 Luther said of his faith, quote, I am more afraid of my own heart than of the Pope and
00:15:48 all his cardinals. I have within me the great Pope. Self. End quote.
00:15:56 The job was done.
00:15:57 The church was reformed, but the baby had been thrown out with the bath water.
00:16:01 And now, half a millennium later, the baby has spawned a thousand offspring in different regions with entirely different belief sets.
00:16:10 It's difficult to get the family back together.
00:16:12 But we must pray and work towards a reunited church.
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00:17:25 I'm now joined by my guest, Mark Mitchell.
00:17:28 Mark, thank you for joining us.
00:17:29 How are you?
00:17:30 Great to be here.
00:17:30 Thanks for having me.
00:17:31 Now, you've been through a bit of a journey yourself
00:17:34 as one of the most famous or infamous pollsters
00:17:38 in the United States of America.
00:17:40 You just talked to me before we came on air
00:17:42 and you said you're finally free.
00:17:43 What does that mean to our viewers?
00:17:45 so i've had a long career journey navy financial services venture capital and after the covet
00:17:53 vaccines i found myself looking for something interesting and part-time and i knew the people
00:17:57 at rasmussen reports and they were desperate for somebody uh it had been basically dying for years
00:18:02 because they had no public face and i came in and did that and quite frankly did a lot better than
00:18:08 most of the people in the industry because i'm honest like that's really basically all it is
00:18:13 what I'm learning more and more is that the industry is completely corrupt and is owned by
00:18:18 interests who are willing to pay significant sums of money, like 100 times more than the actual
00:18:24 polling costs because they want a particular outcome. And I don't do that, which is why
00:18:29 there's very few of us, me and Rich Barris, basically, who are willing to try and scrape
00:18:34 along on a YouTuber living because we won't take the money from these people. And what's fascinating
00:18:40 is how rapidly people think that I betrayed the Trump movement by objectively thinking,
00:18:46 look, Trump's running on all of these things that are great for the American people.
00:18:50 I objectively think that that's good for America to all of a sudden Trump is completely not
00:18:56 delivering on those things and he needs to be called out. And all of a sudden,
00:19:00 you know, an independent pollster, everybody's like, oh, you got TDS. Well, it's like, no,
00:19:05 I'm representing the American people. So for five years at Rasmussen, that was my goal to
00:19:10 represent the american people and i gained more and more of a following and it got me to the point
00:19:15 where i got a chance to go talk to trump last november and lay out very clearly what he should
00:19:21 do if he wanted to win in the november midterm elections and he basically did none of that in
00:19:25 fact he did the exact opposite and then i was very vocal and actually running polling behind 0.73
00:19:31 the scenes to try and stop the iran war because i knew it would be absolutely stupid i think i
00:19:36 was vindicated but what happened is there a group of us who i thought were independent formed a
00:19:44 conglomerate better serve the american people the national association and bolsters well it turns
00:19:49 out my credibility had gotten us to a point where a large trump political action committee check was
00:19:56 on the table for the very first time for rasmussen reports and it hadn't been there before and i was
00:20:01 told specifically that my criticism of Trump was endangering that and hurting the business.
00:20:07 And so at that point in February, they silenced me. And so I started my journey to go out on my
00:20:13 own. And it's really easy because polling's really easy to do. The hard part is not lying
00:20:18 and maintaining credibility. Right. And I do want to get to the Trump stuff, but put that on the
00:20:22 backbencher for a moment. Polling itself, I used to be involved in politics. And I've always said
00:20:28 the only poll that matters is the one on election day because I've never trusted the polling
00:20:32 industry. Was this instinct right? And if so, why? Yeah, like that's exactly right. So everybody
00:20:40 thinks that a pollster is putting out election predictions. I don't think that's correct. I think
00:20:45 what a pollster is really putting out is data that you can use to say, okay, well, if the election
00:20:50 were held today, this is what I think it looks like. And it's not always right, but you can take
00:20:56 any data stream and calibrate it or use it. And it's some information I'm providing information
00:21:01 to. Now, what we've learned is that that can be manipulated in many different ways for a bunch
00:21:06 of different actors for a bunch of different reasons. And often because polling is so difficult
00:21:11 to understand and because they lie about it so much in the media, the voter just gets one-shotted
00:21:16 by all these lies. And so what was happening, for instance, back in the summer of 2024 is that
00:21:23 everybody was basically given Kamala Harrison an extra 5, 6, 7 points of stank. And they, at the
00:21:29 end, they cleaned their numbers up and came back closer to where I was. So what they try and do
00:21:35 is manage their track record. They'll overstate Dems in the presidential cycle. They'll understate 0.81
00:21:41 Dems in a midterm cycle because it'll balance out in the averages on the scorecards. And they will
00:21:46 lie like when they can get a headline out of it like a bunch of pollsters back in april 2025 all
00:21:53 just at once dumped these bad numbers for trump specifically so they could get an abc news headline
00:21:58 that said trump had the worst polling at the 100 day mark of any president and of course the numbers 0.92
00:22:03 came back up like a month after that so it's all fake and gay is really what the big takeaway is 0.93
00:22:08 that that concerns because with a data set you can provide different sets of information right 0.85
00:22:13 You can twist the data into different information.
00:22:16 However, it seems that that's not even the case of what's happening.
00:22:19 It's worse than that.
00:22:20 They're not showing the data and they're not producing information.
00:22:23 They're producing what they want the results to be.
00:22:25 In a sense, it seems like they're trying to influence events rather than report on events.
00:22:30 Right, 100%.
00:22:31 And some of the data that they put out is still good.
00:22:33 And so I can't just say, like, Reuters, Ipsos, throw that out.
00:22:37 There's useful information you can glean from it if you know what they're doing, yada, yada, yada.
00:22:42 but the problem is is that you can't rely on track record anymore polling used to be very expensive
00:22:48 and so it would be the universities and large corporations like gallup that did it and then it
00:22:53 got commoditized and now everybody can poll and what happens is the business is more about lobbying
00:23:01 and so what you do is you poll as a loss leader to get that big lobbyist check so you can lie for
00:23:06 the american beverage association and trick republican voters into thinking that republican
00:23:11 voters want soda in snap benefits which they don't like i'll ask the question they do not want that
00:23:17 and yet somehow they were able to get republican pollsters by spending two million dollars to get
00:23:23 that outcome and so what happens is the whole idea of credibility is gone because people have
00:23:29 a track record but they're constantly managing that like they're trying to manage their lies
00:23:34 into that right and so in my opinion the only way you can trust somebody now is if they're willing
00:23:39 to attack everybody. I polled about Pfizer. I polled about election integrity. I've been polling
00:23:47 about corporations and how they need to be reined in. All of this stuff is widely unpopular if you
00:23:53 want to get a Washington, D.C. fat lobbyist. We've seen very similar things in Britain in that
00:23:58 one of the major polling companies, YouGov, was founded by a former government minister before
00:24:03 he became a government minister. Coincidentally, it always found in favor of him and his policies
00:24:08 and the government's policies.
00:24:09 And people are starting to wake up
00:24:11 and see through this,
00:24:12 that the lobbying influences the polling
00:24:14 and the polling influences the policy.
00:24:17 But for people that aren't yet aware
00:24:19 or aren't yet awake,
00:24:20 what should they be looking out for?
00:24:21 Like say we have another pandemic
00:24:23 and we get all these polls to sing,
00:24:24 this is what needs to happen
00:24:26 or this is what the government needs to do.
00:24:27 What can the viewers look out for
00:24:30 to have some trust
00:24:31 or where can they look to find integrity
00:24:33 in this industry?
00:24:35 Well, they can go to a place called the Honest Poll.
00:24:37 I mean, it really comes down to not a single person in the industry, except Rich Barris did, except for me at Rasmussen Reports, polled about the vaccine safety and side effects.
00:24:49 And a lot of money got spent on polling, but it was all establishment polling.
00:24:54 I think the right frame of reference to use is it's not that polling is any more Republican versus Democrat.
00:25:01 It's establishment versus anti-establishment.
00:25:03 And I think if these people are aware of that and already leaning into anti-establishment
00:25:07 news sources that they trust, that the same goes for pollsters, as you really do need
00:25:12 to sort of, well, it's the age of authenticity.
00:25:14 That's why podcasts are skyrocketing.
00:25:17 So I mean, like, you know, if you want to engage in polling, listen to somebody putting
00:25:23 out content.
00:25:23 And if you feel like they're lying to you or being misdirected, it's the same with all
00:25:27 news.
00:25:28 I think that's good.
00:25:28 I think people have for a long time trusted the experts, but COVID did away with all that
00:25:32 because we realize a lot of the experts are just establishment and actually people want truth they
00:25:37 want integrity they want authenticity as you say and they're finding that in the independent
00:25:41 sector whether that's independent media or independent polling so you've set up honest
00:25:46 polling are you on your own with this what how big is it and what's what's the plan with this
00:25:51 uh you know we're going to put out to start monthly tracking polls and i have some clients
00:25:57 that i'm going to do polling for and we're going to do the kind of stories that i covered at rasmus
00:26:01 reports, which is like, I'm interested in a lot of these new things that the Republican party is
00:26:07 incapable of grasping with. They need a more nuanced conversation. So for instance, oh,
00:26:12 look at that. Socialism is skyrocketing. Well, you're not going to win by browbeating people
00:26:17 about how great capitalism was 50 years ago. That's losing strategy. And so the right needs
00:26:21 to convert this sort of like nebulous economic populism into a very pragmatic platform that
00:26:27 people can believe in the future of. They are nowhere near that. Another one I'm really
00:26:31 interested in is this idea of the fourth turning and about how basically every institution is
00:26:37 bereft of integrity and yet younger voters are craving accountability and structure and order
00:26:45 and integrity and not ideology. And that's a very big thing, for instance, that the church could
00:26:50 take advantage of. There's a huge opportunity there. Everybody's sleeping on it. I've done a
00:26:54 of poll so i'm going to cover things like this and nobody's really doing it and and so it'll
00:26:59 be a public sentiment website there will be a paywall like people can read stuff some of it's
00:27:02 free some of it's for not and then we'll grow the youtube channel and uh you know it's me i'll make
00:27:08 i'll make a living but i won't take a check from big pharma or big soda or big illegal alien which
00:27:15 is something a big story is coming out on that that we were involved in like the the trump
00:27:20 administration is just as bad as everybody else. I can believe it. And I want to get to the church
00:27:24 stuff. And perhaps that's a private conversation for afterwards. And what can we as the church be
00:27:28 doing? But let's let's get to Trump, as I said, we would. What did you advise him to do in order
00:27:33 to win the midterms? And what has he ignored? What do you what do the polls still show that
00:27:37 he should be looking at? So he came out in the second term, pretty strong. But now everybody
00:27:43 says, well, his first term was better. I mean, it's a strong majority of people who say that
00:27:47 he was better in his first term. And the bar was a lot lower back then. And he seemed to face a lot
00:27:53 more external systematic challenges. So that's not the way it should be. And he had the winning
00:27:58 platform. It was restore trust in federal institutions, get all of the illegals out, 1.00
00:28:03 use Doge to reform the federal government and drain the swamp. That's literally all he had to 0.96
00:28:07 do. Now, obviously that's a huge uphill battle. And people ultimately sense that, especially
00:28:12 younger people because they were leaning into authoritarian aspects of what trump was putting
00:28:17 out in february and march like they wanted judges arrested they agreed with the napoleon quote about
00:28:23 he you know who saves his country violence no laws by like six i mean like this was the younger
00:28:28 people like finally a republican president that gets it and then between sort of like april and
00:28:34 july actually april and really october there was just string of symbolic humiliation one after the 0.90
00:28:41 other right it's like liberation day was kind of retarded the one big beautiful bill was mostly just 0.84
00:28:47 a republican pork bill and they got rid of yeah the opposite of doge then they got rid of doge 0.88
00:28:53 oh do we have doge was still around no not the way people want it right and that's why opinion
00:28:59 matters because it like the right is so they've turned into npcs they're so pedantic they're like
00:29:05 oh well you know doge is still operating and it's like we thought we were going to get a trillion
00:29:10 less out of the deficit bro like it's not the same thing then midnight hammer happened then he called
00:29:16 the people that wanted the epstein transparency like he attacked them and didn't want them as
00:29:20 followers then he was fighting about the affordability crisis and talking about how 0.99
00:29:24 great high home values were it's just the chinese students the h1bs it was just hit after hit 1.00
00:29:30 so i was going nuts on the internet saying like this is not tenable you're losing your base like 0.99
00:29:35 like you're betraying people. Like he even went into the special election midterms in November
00:29:41 with a government shutdown with no plan. It was just retarded. So when I went there, 1.00
00:29:47 it was like, you're going to lose the midterms. And the reason is that people think that you plus
00:29:51 Republicans can't govern. And if you're going to win the midterms, you have to show them that you
00:29:56 can govern by not saying we're in a golden age, but by showing people that voting for Republicans
00:30:01 will bring you down a path through the golden age. And to do that, you have to be very specific
00:30:05 about what the problems are. And it's the federal government's been occupied by corporatists and
00:30:10 deep state people. And the American people haven't seen a reconciliation of that. You need
00:30:16 to show a visible reconciliation of the federal government. And you need to focus on economic
00:30:21 populism in a way that's aimed at showing the younger generations that they have a future under
00:30:26 republican rule and that's tough because you would have to do things like make your oligarchic friends
00:30:33 mad at you is ultimately the problem the feeling i got from the white house is that there was no 0.96
00:30:38 interest engaging in engaging in this because they really didn't give a crap about people under 50 to 0.96
00:30:44 be honest with you and he was more interested in talking about lindsey graham's golf drive and how 0.65
00:30:48 great the statues that the billionaires were going to bring him the next meeting after me
00:30:52 So, you know, it was helpful for me, like, to get that off my chest. But the idea that somehow, like, Susie was going to incorporate that into some, like, long-term strategic 10-year plan to fix the country is, like, just bad. Like, it's insane.
00:31:08 Like the, and obviously it's the establishment Republican interests aren't interested in
00:31:13 unwinding the corporate welfare that pervades the Republican party.
00:31:17 They have, you know, there's the Pfizer's and the people like that.
00:31:20 They, there's the foreign interests and the Intel interests and the neoconservative interests
00:31:26 and the, and I got really the feeling and people were telling me this, like reading
00:31:32 between the lines that the Trump white house is basically captured by Rupert Murdoch's
00:31:36 Fox News is what it really comes down to. This is government by Fox News. What this boils down to
00:31:43 is boomer establishment versus everyone else. And if someone's not willing to take on the 0.56
00:31:49 boomer establishment, which we all thought Trump was, then things are going to get worse. The point
00:31:54 that you keep making about the younger generation is they are more authoritarian, they are more
00:31:57 socialist, they are more nationalist. Eventually, that becomes some form of, well, potentially
00:32:03 fascist national socialism which is where young people tend to be leaning because they're looking
00:32:09 for solutions and no one is willing to help in any way shape or form they're on their own
00:32:13 and so at some point if they ever get into power it's going to look very different to what we see 1.00
00:32:18 now and this will be the direct result of the the boomer establishment on both sides of the house
00:32:22 trump was you know they call me this right like the zoomers they say well you're they call me a
00:32:29 boomer and they say well you're one of the rare old heads that get it well that's what trump was
00:32:33 right he was literally the king of twitter he understood how to use that app better than most
00:32:37 zoomers now do today yeah and all of that has been unwound like i supported this guy personally
00:32:43 for years i was one of the frog posters you know what i mean like and he's just not the same guy
00:32:47 he became a boomer awfully fast i think some of it's like willfully surrounding himself with all
00:32:52 these people that want to maintain the status quo and i think some of it's he's sort of out of fight
00:32:58 and he just wants to convince himself he has a winning legacy and i guess there's some of that
00:33:02 uh but he's just not the same man and the young people know it like i haven't seen an actual
00:33:08 organic meme about trump that was funny in probably a year and a half and you know they're
00:33:13 putting their own memes out which is pretty wild and again it's like okay well twitter's not
00:33:17 the real world and it's like well for the under 50 it like kind of is now and they're going to be
00:33:22 sorely sorely uh like confused when we go to total global war and they call up the draft and
00:33:30 these people have no interest in fighting. These are people that have been watching videos for
00:33:35 three years now of poor Russians in a ditch getting a hand grenade dropped on their head
00:33:39 from the throne. This isn't World War II where people didn't know that they were going to have
00:33:42 to like walk out of the landing craft. You know what I mean? And that's like, I feel that that's
00:33:47 coming and America has felt that a major war is coming for a long time too. America is actually
00:33:52 pretty afraid of a civil war and is more concerned about domestic violence and domestic terrorism
00:33:57 than foreign terrorism believe it or not like this whole idea that you can just like blame the brown
00:34:03 brown islamists somehow and get your total war is not going to fly with these people either and
00:34:08 these are the people that are going to have to fight your war so that like again then we're 0.78
00:34:13 leaning into maybe some period of statism where we try like i just don't know where it's going to 0.91
00:34:18 go but as you can see with like you said the boomers we're at pretty close to a major political 0.70
00:34:24 inflection point where the unideological under 50 voter is going to to glom on to some new set
00:34:33 of values and challenge the boomers and they will lose they're they're losing like every
00:34:39 um like year they're they're losing a couple million people we're gaining a couple million 0.95
00:34:44 young voters like between now and uh 2028 young voters are going to have like five million more
00:34:51 votes in voting power and then they're going to start dying out of congress so uh you know like
00:34:58 there will be rapid change it's probably not going to be built on the post-world war ii
00:35:03 like founding mythology like it's just not right like no that entire generation is timing out
00:35:08 within the next five to seven years the building generation will be all out of office most of them
00:35:13 will be dead which means that something else is going to come and take their place and i think
00:35:18 personally that the political solutions are at a dead end now. I think Trump was it. People put
00:35:24 their hope in Trump. This time a year ago, people were so excited. And it's taken just one year for
00:35:29 it all to come crumbling apart for all the reasons that you've listed previously. But for that reason,
00:35:33 I don't think anyone under 40 can trust an establishment politician ever again, whether
00:35:37 they're Republican or Democrat, which means that something else is going to fill their shoes. And
00:35:41 I think you're right in that they also without an ideology under 40. And that means that some
00:35:46 someone or something else can step in now that could be very dangerous and toxic or it could be
00:35:50 very good and you alluded earlier to the fact that the church could be doing more so what could we as
00:35:55 the church be doing to fill that gap if we wanted to create a beautiful theocracy that is founded
00:36:01 in christian values not judeo-christian values not islamo-judean christian values but christian
00:36:05 values to restore christendom rather than whatever uh fascist alternative is on the horizon what
00:36:11 should we be doing? So I think the process we're going through is iterative, where the right
00:36:17 learned that they needed a grassroots movement. That was the Tea Party. Then they realized they
00:36:22 needed an outsider avatar for a grassroots movement. That was Trump. And I think that
00:36:28 they've seen that they've been betrayed by the establishment enough that they know who the
00:36:32 Republican Party is. And the Republican Party is clinging into this post-World War II boomer,
00:36:38 like Reagan, like trickle down, conservative, liberal, feminized,
00:36:45 like set of individualistic values that are, you know, idealizing the structure of our past
00:36:56 institutions. And by not understanding that things will change, I fear that what's going
00:37:02 to happen with the establishment Republican, I said this in a tweet, is that they will become 0.76
00:37:07 the effigy of boomers that the young people burn. They are a very convenient target because the left 0.90
00:37:13 is not. So now you look at the church and traditionally the right has been more Christian 0.90
00:37:18 than the left has. But then you look at what like boomer feminized mainline denomination churches 0.55
00:37:25 have done in the United States. And they've created this value set that's like, well, 0.83
00:37:30 we're all going to hug and hear a message about salvation. And there's not going to be a lot of
00:37:35 talk about worldview or what is good or wrong in the world and how we would use our role as moral
00:37:43 leaders to change society, to improve things for people and spread Christianity. And everybody
00:37:50 looks at Christianity, in my opinion, and says, well, there should be a revival. Christianity's 0.79
00:37:54 got a lot of answers to this. And what I say to that is you can't force a revival, it's pull.
00:38:00 Like the message has to match what the people who are most upset want to see. And what, like you said, what they want to see is order and they want to be prioritized. They want structure. They want a life back. They want something to live for essentially. And that's the problem with the under 50 voters. They've been not given something to live for. And I have a ton of polling like, you know, only 35% say that today's children will be better off than their parents. That means the American dream's dead.
00:38:29 And so these people think the system hates them, like 70% of them think the economic system is like purposely focuses on being bad to the young people. So there's all these metrics, right? Their women suck, their jobs suck, they can't get a house. And so right now they're playing video games because they don't have power and they're being repressed.
00:38:51 And so, like, they will be the fuel, I think, of whatever happens.
00:38:55 The question is, like, who leads and what's the movement and what riles these people up?
00:39:02 And Christianity could provide order.
00:39:05 Christianity could provide world.
00:39:06 And I'll give you one example just from the polling of why I'm seeing things that show me this.
00:39:12 So if you ask people what their religion is, older voters have a higher Christian world identification.
00:39:19 Now, it tends to be mainline.
00:39:20 is dying, like dying by age. Younger people are becoming evangelicals or Catholics. They're not
00:39:27 going to mainline churches. Mainline denominations have like 20 years till they're gone in the United
00:39:31 States, I think. So older people have higher mainline ID or Christian ID. But then we asked
00:39:38 a question, just one random question. How important is it to refrain from premarital sex for young 0.83
00:39:44 people? And you saw the opposite. You saw young people who said it was more important. And the 0.73
00:39:49 older people are like, ah, like who cares? And what was really wild was the male under 40 who 0.73
00:39:55 almost 60% of them said it was important. So the church, because it's become feminized, 0.57
00:40:01 in my opinion, the mainline denomination pastor is preaching towards a 70 year old
00:40:06 MSNBC watcher in the front row who will get up and leave. If you don't take like just the
00:40:13 positions I've seen have been like insane. Like the Senate chaplain came to my town and preached
00:40:19 in this auditorium we have. And he told this long story about the power of prayer in the Senate and
00:40:24 about how they're having a daily prayer meeting ever since Russia invaded Ukraine. And the punch
00:40:30 line was that, wow, we have 60 senators coming to this now and they're all praying and it's so great
00:40:34 and God's working. And because of this, Ukraine has been able to hold out against Russia. Well,
00:40:41 it's like Russian troops are mostly Christian and they're dying and this is Christians killing 0.93
00:40:46 christians and there's people doing bad things on both sides and and probably the most christian
00:40:51 world view christ-like thing out of this is to let's not have this war and get out of it as soon
00:40:56 as possible that's not what the establishment wants and so i think in many ways the church
00:41:01 has been co-opted by this you know boomer world order that we have and they aren't going to use
00:41:09 the church to provide order for the young people that should be building new families and carrying
00:41:16 christianity further to other generations and i don't think anybody's really talking about this
00:41:21 to be honest with you it's so true i mean that's the purpose of this show and that's the purpose
00:41:25 of this network to restore christendom and to help people equip people to fight this spiritual war
00:41:30 that we're in with basic truths that we've known for 2 000 years that people are afraid to say now
00:41:35 because the people are more afraid of the world than they are of the of god himself and so the 0.96
00:41:40 church has become worldly and you're right effeminate and gay and it should be masculine 0.96
00:41:44 it should be muscular it should be a patriarchy we should be passing on the truth and we're afraid 0.95
00:41:49 to not all of us of course but generally speaking the church is afraid to i think you're spot on
00:41:54 and i hope that more pastors can watch this and take something away from this if they want to
00:41:58 find out the data if they want to see the information uh where can they go the honest
00:42:04 poll.com is the website it's just a splash page now but the second i get my first poll out probably
00:42:09 early next week i'll have the whole website up you sign up for a free newsletter i promise not
00:42:14 to abuse it and again i'm not taking the the paychecks you know what i mean like i'm not
00:42:20 selling out so i would appreciate it people come support me there'll be a cheap paywall and you'll
00:42:24 get all the crosstabs in the poll and all my commentary uh the youtube channel i'm going to
00:42:29 kick back up we had a really healthy youtube channel going before i got shut down so we'll
00:42:33 be doing that and then on twitter i'm at honest pollster and the polling company is at honest
00:42:40 poll co so i'd love for people to come and follow uh you know i make some pretty insane takes um
00:42:46 i've been sort of on the leading edge of calling out israel influence and that's important because
00:42:50 i can measure and israel is literally destroying their influence and so it has to be asked like at
00:42:56 what cost and for what gain so i think we're going to see more and more of this with all the money
00:43:00 has borrowed spending it's going to be a wild time i think that's actually the major divide
00:43:04 when i from britain when i looked at american politics 10 years ago it used to be you could
00:43:08 tell someone's politics by their stance on abortion, right? If they're against killing
00:43:11 babies, they're Republican. If they're for pro-choice, they're Democrats. Nowadays, it's
00:43:16 all about Israel. If you support Israel, you're over 50, you're a boomer, neocon, or neolib,
00:43:20 and you care about your own financial, your own pension more than you care about young people.
00:43:24 If you don't care about Israel, you're probably America first, you can't afford to buy a house,
00:43:28 you can't afford to fill your car tank with gas, and you feel like that you are being oppressed
00:43:33 by your own state. Like, that's the dividing line right there, and I don't think everyone
00:43:36 has realized it yet but when it comes up it's going to be massive because the whole younger 0.71
00:43:41 generations are done with Israel done with Israeli influence done with spending all their money
00:43:46 taxpayer money in Israel and the boomers are almost making an idol out of Israel to the point 0.59
00:43:50 of to them it's the golden calf and so those when they butt heads it's all going to kick off 0.96
00:43:54 these are the things that are very dangerous for the establishment Republican Party that
00:43:59 seems to be I hate to say it more neoconservative now than it's probably been at any point in time
00:44:05 because trump brought in the new neoconservative financial cash flows and that's what drives the
00:44:10 republican party it's like flows of capital and so like i don't see how you unwind that and you
00:44:15 know i thought last fall israel is not a big deal but yet their pr is terrible they've lost
00:44:21 the palestine for the first time like like this is bad israel should get smarter pr is not working
00:44:28 this was the kind of advice i gave out but then the second it became about fighting their expansion 0.88
00:44:34 destructionist destabilizing regional war at the cost of really our last chance at a legislative
00:44:42 America first like fix before things pop off then it becomes symbolic and I'll tell you they 0.78
00:44:50 actually Israel lost 50 percent among the boomers for the very first time just recently so the
00:44:55 numbers are going to continue to go down as we drain the strategic petroleum reserve as the
00:45:00 Democrats probably make this whole thing in the fall about Israel and Trump and how he lied about
00:45:06 no new wars. And it's hard to predict what's going to happen in the fall. There's reasons it could go
00:45:12 either way. But I think we have to wait and see. The Democrats have been preparing for this and
00:45:17 they have a lot of ammunition. I'd like to see if there's any data to back up my suspicion. But I
00:45:22 think everything changed with the death of Charlie Kirk. I think once Charlie was out of the picture,
00:45:26 Iran was back on the table.
00:45:29 Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Greene were out of the picture.
00:45:31 Lindsey Graham and Mike Huckabee were back in the picture.
00:45:34 The whole circle around Trump changed from the Avengers who helped him campaign and win
00:45:39 the election to the neocons and the neolibs who've been behind the curtains the whole
00:45:43 time, hoping to get back in the ring.
00:45:45 And the death of Charlie seems to be that dividing point where one group was out and
00:45:49 the other group was back in.
00:45:51 In November, when I went to the White House, I was told this.
00:45:53 Trump talks to people all day. It's people like Larry Ellison and Rupert Murdoch and Sean Hannity
00:46:00 and Lindsey Graham. And they told me that Charlie dying was a very big blow to the White House
00:46:06 because Charlie was a powerful moderating force and a champion, really the only champion that
00:46:13 younger voters had in the Trump administration. And they were desperate to try and get other
00:46:17 voices in that Trump would glom onto. That's why they brought me, they brought Rich Barrison,
00:46:21 they brought Jack Posobiec in, they probably brought a bunch of other people in. And I think
00:46:25 what they're doing is just throwing stuff at Trump to see what would stick. And like, you know, I'm
00:46:30 not a kiss ass. So like, I didn't stick. You know what I mean? And I think we don't have a Charlie 0.96
00:46:37 Kirk replacement, obviously, because we're in Iran and he would have staunchly opposed this
00:46:43 because it's symbolic. There's all these symbolic things about the Trump administration. That's what
00:46:48 I don't think that they're going to be able to escape.
00:46:51 It's just they've probably got billions 0.85
00:46:54 of Chinese laundered act blue money 0.54
00:46:56 and they're just going to play reels of Trump
00:46:59 betraying his base over and over again.
00:47:01 It could be really bad.
00:47:04 And just before we wrap up,
00:47:05 the one thing I forgot to bring up,
00:47:06 you mentioned earlier in that
00:47:07 I think one of the major downfalls with Trump
00:47:10 was when he attacked his own base.
00:47:12 This whole panicans thing
00:47:14 of people who've supported him for years
00:47:16 or maybe not even for years,
00:47:17 but in the last election,
00:47:17 people who really got behind him and got excited. And suddenly they are the enemy.
00:47:21 That I think was the defining factor. That was the biggest mistake he's made so far.
00:47:26 I can add some color to that. So I know for a fact that a day before he came out at that press
00:47:33 release and attacked his base over Epstein, that polling landed on his desk from me that said that
00:47:40 only 16% of America agrees with Pam Bondi that the case is closed, but 68% of America thinks
00:47:47 there are wealthy and powerful predators who need to go to jail and so this was a very oh epstein
00:47:53 is not too high on the list of voters priorities well that is true but also one of the most
00:47:58 unpopular things is in america is the idea of two-tiered justice we've pulled it it's 95 unpopular
00:48:04 it's like wow people hate the idea of elites just getting away with murder and so this was very
00:48:09 symbolic of that and anybody who saw that polling could say well you know like i should tread with
00:48:13 with care here. And what is sad is that the solution was so easy, and I hate to say this
00:48:20 cynically, it was just to say, you know what? The FBI should investigate this. Pan Bondi's wrong,
00:48:26 we're going to investigate. And it would have gone away, taken it from the Democrats. It would
00:48:30 have just been a non-issue. It was an unforced error. In politics, there were these unforced
00:48:34 errors. He didn't have to say anything, but instead he attacked his own side, who are just
00:48:38 He was publicly advocating for the people who he cares most about, and that's his wealthy friends.
00:48:49 I think that's what it all comes down to, and this is why there's such a big divide,
00:48:52 not just in this country, but in the West, between the wealthy and the ordinary folk,
00:48:56 and there's going to be an uprising, there's going to be a change in regime,
00:48:59 and I think we're all going to live to see it.
00:49:01 Mark Mitchell, thank you very much for your time, God bless you, and keep in touch.
00:49:05 Thanks so much, this is a great talk, appreciate it.
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