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00:01:21.520But one of the questions we asked is when a leader has to decide what's right,
00:01:25.120what should guide them the most, the law as written, what's fair and just in this situation
00:01:31.740or biblical values. So now Gen Z combined 60% said what's fair and just in biblical values,
00:01:39.22050 and 10, and only 33% said the law is written. But among boomers, it was 46% who said the law
00:01:46.000is written. Only 32% said what is fair and just in this situation. These younger people, again,
00:01:51.620don't care so much about the law. They definitely don't care about words like socialism and
00:01:56.260capitalism as much. Under 40 Trump voters, 50% of them said they would support a democratic
00:02:01.500socialist candidate. Radical Christian nationalist pastor, Joel Webin. Joel Webin.
00:02:09.140I'm going to talk about Joel Webin. Joel Webin is an accent.
00:02:21.620all right we are back this is actually part two if you are tuning in for the first time this is
00:02:36.500part two of a three-part series mini series that we're doing with mark mitchell mark mitchell real
00:02:41.640quick just for our audience um that maybe missed our first episode which i would encourage you to
00:02:46.520go back and watch it. It's all about the rise of kind of an appetite for socialism, not just on the
00:02:52.960left, but on the political right here in America. We intro'd what you are, you know, what you do,
00:02:57.800those kinds of things. But for those who are tuning in for the first time with this second
00:03:01.180part, who are you? I'm an independent pollster and there are a lot of pollsters, but there are
00:03:05.900not a lot of independent ones. Usually they're co-opted by large media organizations that lean
00:03:10.300left or they're bought by Republican establishment consulting bucks. And nobody is really out there
00:03:15.980representing the american people like that's in my opinion what polling is supposed to do
00:03:19.780and as we covered in our last topic about socialism there are a lot of people on the left
00:03:25.140who are talking about socialism because they want it but there is nobody on the right talking about
00:03:29.680what what do you do with that rising trend and how do you counter it because the entire point
00:03:35.140of polling on the right is just to make everything look good and rosy and i'm not doing that yep
00:03:39.440real quick. So you are the Honest Poller, right? The Honest Poller of the Honest Polling Company
00:03:46.880on Twitter. It's at Honest Pollster and it's thehonestpoll.com. Great. Okay. So this one,
00:03:54.280we're going to be talking about boomers versus millennial, Gen Z, Gen Alpha a little bit,
00:03:59.760mainly like boomers and Gen Z would probably be the biggest dichotomy. So just to prime the
00:04:04.640a little bit for this conversation, we're going to be talking about boomers versus Gen Z and
00:04:08.940millennials. Here's the deal. The old dichotomy of an ideological divide, we're not saying that
00:04:15.980that doesn't exist. But that is not at the forefront of politics in America like it used to
00:04:23.260be, right versus left. I'm not saying that those issues aren't there, but that doesn't seem to be
00:04:30.120the forefront. There is all politics. You can correct me if you see it differently, but I'm
00:04:38.000under the persuasion that all politics is identity politics. That's not a moral claim. I'm not saying
00:04:43.020that we want it to be that way, but people play for their side, for their team. And I think that
00:04:49.160in America, there are racial divides. I think there are economic class divides. And right now,
00:04:55.360I think one of the biggest divides, even more than racially, more than class, is a generational
00:05:00.360divide. It's like old versus young. But my point is, it's not just ideology, right? Because that's
00:05:06.860how boomers want you to see it, ironically, is they want you to see it as it could be a 24-year-old0.81
00:05:12.340Haitian, or it could be a 64-year-old Swede. But at the end of the day, it's simply the
00:05:18.460ideological disagreements. And that's how we determine who's wearing what jersey, which team
00:05:24.340we're on. And I'm looking at it and I'm like, dude, this fall is uncanny. It seems like the
00:05:30.540The political disagreements in our country fall 100% on generational bases.
00:05:37.720Generational bases, I would say that's number one, generational divide.
00:05:40.900Probably after that is religious slash racial divide with some nuances there.
00:05:47.700And then as a close second to that would be the economic divide.
00:05:54.620That's how I see it, but it's all group.
00:06:01.360The way I would kind of look at it is the very idea that politics today is identity is a condemnation of leadership, in my opinion.
00:06:09.640In a representative democracy, our elected leaders should represent all Americans.
00:06:14.340And our political parties should be striving to and signaling that they want everybody to vote for them.
00:06:19.800And so if we're in a situation where our elections are decided by people pointing at other folks on the other side and othering them or trying to, it's really a race to the bottom.
00:06:30.940And the establishment has learned that that's very effective.
00:06:33.760And the establishment has also created a paradigm where voters don't get what they want.
00:06:37.900And ultimately, we've seen in 2024 that good leadership, at least in the campaign, can build a coalition of people who don't play identity politics.
00:06:46.500so you know trump has done some identity politics for sure who what's the main group of people that
00:06:53.080don't play identity politics well i don't know you mean what are you saying like like so i'll
00:06:58.940in my assessment uh the main group of people that does not play identity politics uh that's very
00:07:05.540turned off by that is white people i think i i just feel like most they've traditionally been
00:07:12.000above that it's yeah in the in the religious category the people who don't like to play
00:07:15.580identity politics, Christians. In the economic category, middle class. In the racial category,
00:07:23.020whites. In other words, it's the heart that's waning in terms of demographics, but still0.63
00:07:31.560represents 50%, maybe a little bit more of the country. They're the only ones. In other words,0.74
00:07:37.640it's the hegemony. It's the majority of the country, racially, religiously, economically,
00:07:41.960that doesn't like identity politics but as we've conceded and said that no that's nasty that's
00:07:48.000gross um it feels like that group keeps shrinking yeah and eventually it's like um you may not be
00:07:54.020interested in identity politics but identity politics is interested in you there might even
00:07:58.000be a white genocide happening yeah there might be yeah uh yeah but i think and ultimately it is
00:08:05.500important for white people, white men especially, who a lot of people have been on the opposite
00:08:12.580side of identity politics, for them to stand up for themselves 100%. I don't think that that's
00:08:17.840the right political solution, however. I think the right political solution is for an inclusive
00:08:21.600leader who governs morally, who has a platform that represents the will of the people. That's
00:08:28.780ultimately what we're uh what we're looking at here and there there is a major age divide uh
00:08:34.880very important and what we're seeing is it starts to like really play out now in a way that it
00:08:40.520hasn't before in the past and it's starting to change very rapidly do you think that's the
00:08:43.780biggest so racial aside religious aside uh do you think that the the biggest dichotomy
00:08:49.840us versus them or whatever like is uh economic and generational i think they're tied together
00:08:56.300100 percent. And it's and I'm looking at the future and saying that the writing is very much
00:09:01.300on the wall, that the age rift is going to get bigger. And it's because of the economic reasons.
00:09:06.100And we talked about it in our last episode of socialism as well. But there are so many signs
00:09:11.520that the late stage capitalist K-shaped recovery that's been global homocleptocratic, like just
00:09:17.340crowding out younger American workers for decades. The music is finally stopping. And there's a bunch
00:09:23.020reasons for that. Some of it is that we're running out of treasury to plunder and our debt is getting
00:09:27.140unsustainable. But we are looking at a future where there's probably going to be another Great
00:09:32.220Depression. And we don't have to get into an argument about why, but I think there's a lot
00:09:36.040of signs that it's coming eventually. It'll probably be hyperinflationary, which means that
00:09:40.480the people at the top will do even better. The asset holders will do even better.
00:09:44.160Real quick, when you say eventually, obviously you don't have a crystal ball. God alone is
00:09:47.520omniscient. We don't know for sure. But your gut, when you say eventually, are you talking
00:10:21.440And I always give the disclaimer, right-wing watch will probably clip us out also, and all this will not be conveniently in the clip.
00:10:27.460There is a dynamic difference between prescribing and predicting, right?
00:10:33.140So in terms of a prescription, like what I think morally should happen, what Christians should actually actively pray for and work towards.
00:10:41.940I don't think Christians should be praying towards and working towards destroying all the institutions in our country.
00:10:50.820We're looking at history, which doesn't repeat, but rhymes, and saying, in terms of not prescription, but prediction, yeah, we're kind of overdue.
00:11:05.700And then I would say from that, means, right, ends don't justify means.
00:11:10.460But for me, as a guy who's pretty big in my theology on the sovereignty of God, providence, I do believe, right, whether you're a Calvinist, Arminian, whether you're a Catholic or Protestant, pretty much everybody agrees, Romans chapter 8, right, that God works all things for the good of those who love him and are called according to his purposes.
00:11:29.580So whether you think it's God orchestrating, ordaining, or whether it's God, you know, making lemonade out of lemons and salvaging, you know, and either way you slice it.
00:11:38.800If you're a Christian and the Bible has any kind of credibility whatsoever in your worldview, pretty much everybody agrees that the ends don't justify the means from a human perspective.
00:11:48.780Like, I can do bad things as long as it turns out good.
00:11:51.440But every Christian probably agrees that this thing that we're not prescribing, but rather predicting, is going to be terrible in the short run, but because God is merciful and kind, actually could longer term produce a lot of the things that we desperately need.
00:12:09.540I'm not an accelerationist, nor am I saying that we exploit these trends in order to exert some Christian nationalist outcome.
00:12:16.560But what I would say is entering what is a very predictable period of political upheaval, we should have some guiding principles as we reorder society because it will be necessary, historically speaking.
00:12:28.160And in my opinion, those guiding principles should be things like Christianity and Western Logos, which have been the foundation of Western society and not necessarily the Constitution.
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00:15:51.720Yeah, I think it's a nice ideal that we should work towards.
00:15:53.960Yes, but the problem is right now, people who hate, I forget who said this one, but
00:15:57.840it's well said um people who hate the constitution are using the constitution to undo the constitution
00:16:03.360for those who love the constitution and it's like yeah of course that's what's happening
00:16:07.500right it's literally it's these radical leftists saying no the constitution says x y and c 14th
00:16:13.820amendment you know the blah blah and they're and they're using the letter of the law to absolutely
00:16:19.740pervert and destroy the spirit of the law yeah that was esteemed by the guys who wrote it0.58
00:16:27.300Like, we all know if Thomas Jefferson was sitting here today, if George Washington was sitting here today,
00:16:33.020and we were pointing to the First Amendment or the 14th Amendment or any of these things and saying,0.96
00:16:39.620and so therefore, George Washington, and this is why we need to import a billion Indians.0.65
00:16:44.380And this is why we need to have Sharia law in certain parts of Texas.0.82
00:16:48.600And therefore, this is why he'd be like, what the hell are you talking about?
00:16:52.260It's the same party that in a 12-month period wanted to throw the unvaccinated in camps and then said that Donald Trump was the biggest threat to our democracies.0.98
00:17:03.400So, big divide between boomers, young people, and I think you ran an excellent poll on this, and I'm really curious to hear some of the results.
00:17:14.560But you were already kind of starting to tease it in terms of boomers.
00:17:17.920It's a letter of the law, constitution.0.72
00:17:20.600So this is one sign, and there's a lot.
00:17:22.460And as we talk about the fourth turning, a lot of this is a prediction of what future changes in public opinion.
00:17:28.820Like we're starting to see rifts on certain issues among age generational.
00:17:33.360But it's the idea that the continued economic stress and disagreement over things like Social Security is going to make things even more heated.
00:17:41.400But one of the questions we asked is when a leader has to decide what's right, what should guide them the most?
00:17:48.240the law as written, what's fair and just in this situation or biblical values. And the country was
00:17:53.940basically split on the law and what's fair and just, 39 to 40%. Only 14% said biblical values,
00:18:00.860which is kind of sad considering we're about 65%. And that's not young people. That's everybody.
00:18:06.200Okay. Yep. So now Gen Z combined 60% said what's fair and just in biblical values, 50 and 10,
00:18:13.800and only 33 percent said the law is written. But among boomers, it was 46 percent who said the law
00:18:19.780is written. Only 32 percent said what is fair and just in the situation. So this is one of many,
00:18:25.200many measures, but one that we did exclusively for you that shows that these younger people,
00:18:29.940again, don't care so much about the law. They definitely don't care about words like socialism
00:18:34.640and capitalism as much. If you talk to them about conservatism, they don't care at all
00:24:47.700And so here we are. And what happens is the institutional rot becomes so bad and integrity is so terrible that it is no longer tolerable by the next wave of people. And that is literally what's happening now.
00:25:03.560And you can see it in polling because on certain issues, you see a big age difference where there wasn't one before.0.95
00:25:10.460In my opinion, Israel was the most salient one.
00:25:13.740And you say, okay, well, this is like economic and about U.S. institutions.
00:25:46.140And this shows, I think you're seeing this dynamic play out online in which a lot of people are using this stance on Israel to actually rebel in a very hostile manner against the values of their older generations.
00:25:59.340yeah so israel and the holocaust and world war ii some people have called the foundation myth
00:26:04.960of the boomer generation right and so there is nothing more hostile and affronting that you can
00:26:09.640do than to attack one of their core beliefs which is some people have called it holocaustianity or
00:26:16.720or whatever that's what we call it yeah so i mean that is the same and just for the record there's
00:26:21.660there's a big difference there's a distinction between denying the holocaust as a historical
00:26:27.080event and repudiating holocaustianity as a binding you know foundational myth as a religion
00:26:35.080those are two different things well you're looking at also as an intellectual and these
00:26:38.960people are this is the equivalent of the 1950s greaser with a cigarette pack rolled in their
00:26:44.520sleeves this is literally what's happening is that these younger people are rebelling against
00:26:48.740the older squares and that's exactly what nick fuentes is he knows it and he does a really good
00:26:53.640job at it. Yeah, he does it well. Yeah. So this is going to play out, in my opinion, based on the
00:26:59.140fourth turning, in significantly more gulfs between the older and the young people in the
00:27:04.560polling. I think we'll probably see something like this play out on NATO. We're certainly
00:27:09.000seeing it play out, a referendum on capitalism versus socialism. Play out on NATO. What do you
00:27:14.440mean? Flesh that out. Well, so I think we're going to see increasing, like already the younger
00:27:20.420people don't like foreign interventionist wars and when i think we're looking at a nato that is
00:27:27.400becoming increasingly more ambitious and like eastern eurasian expansion for whatever reason
00:27:32.380i don't know like probably bolshevik capture or whatever i don't know um that will not be
00:27:38.120like already there's an age difference on whether we should support nato it's not as big as the
00:27:44.100israel issue but it's going to get a lot worse if we're saying yes young people say no yeah of
00:27:49.660course we should do nato it's been a it's given us peace for 50 years the nato is great it's one
00:27:55.500of our best institutions like meanwhile if you listen to how nato leaders talk they are literally
00:28:00.920preparing for world war three and they the young people are on the internet you you said like the
00:28:07.200divide the divide is 50 if you had the internet by the time you were 20 i'm like that's really
00:28:13.860where the generational divide is strongest in my opinion and you can see it in like trump
00:28:18.720approval numbers now and stuff like that um that the younger people who are on the internet are
00:28:24.300are very good at spotting out inauthenticity and our entire system is inauthentic they call it
00:28:29.760clown world even right yeah i i read just recently um i think it was af post did like an article
00:28:36.040and showed some of the stats but um james fishback in the primary in florida it's not just that he
00:28:43.120won like the colleges because the colleges like most of them is he did win them but let's you
00:28:48.520know just in the spirit of forthrightness um a lot of these colleges total turnout for this entire
00:28:55.140university it was like 73 votes you know and so um but if that's all it was then it's just like
00:29:02.460okay well he just focused on colleges and byron donald's didn't because they're insignificant
00:29:06.340and byron donald's would have been right about that but from what i've seen um james actually
00:29:12.340won not just with colleges he um he won beat all the other candidates including byron if um if it
00:29:19.240was all votes uh under the age of 50 50 and under yep which that is that's not just 19 year olds
00:29:26.420colleges everyone 50 and under that's significant because at that point you're you're talking um
00:29:34.380this is not that far away to where these guys that you're mocking now that you're making fun of now
00:29:41.340are going to be uh they may not just be your governor they might be your president well
00:29:47.560there's you know so there's an interesting dynamic there so the math is roughly one to
00:29:52.320two million boomers die a year and we meant about four million new voters so you're looking at a net
00:29:59.600change in the electorate every cycle of 10 to 12 million so between now and 2032 you're looking at
00:30:05.860maybe 30 or 35 million more votes from zoomers and and gen alpha who's probably even more based0.99
00:30:13.900my kids are yeah they're out there and and the boomers are absolutely losing power real quick0.75
00:30:20.880so 26 to 32 how many boomer voters will we lose approximately um is it like 10 to 15 million 10
00:30:28.520to 15 million and we'll have 5 million new gen z no no it'll be like 20 15 to 20 million yeah
00:30:35.82015 to 20 million more yeah okay um these are back in the envelope numbers i'm sure somebody has this
00:30:42.460but like directionally it's a huge change and also what you're still seeing is if you look at
00:30:48.120the senate where legislation goes to die a lot of people attack mike johnson and he has his flaws
00:30:54.480but the congress actually did what it was supposed to this time like if there was a problem with
00:31:00.360Congress is that the Trump administration hadn't planned enough to create a MAGA legislative agenda
00:31:06.280for Congress to pass, but it was never going to pass the Senate. And the Senate is, I think,
00:31:10.72065% boomer and silent generation still. I don't think it has any Zoomers. I think there are more1.00
00:31:15.680silence than there are millennials. And so that chamber is going to change very quickly, and that
00:31:22.900will change all of our politics as well. We've also had a string of boomer and silent presidents
00:31:28.480that I think is 30 or 40 years long now,0.58
00:31:30.700we're probably going to get a millennial next,
00:31:41.520But the weird dynamic is that the Republican Party
00:31:44.540is actually kind of insulated from this
00:31:46.460because their midterm electorate is so boomer.
00:31:50.540And so the important point you mentioned about Florida
00:31:55.020is that Fishback would win with under 50s only
00:31:58.040but he only got 10 percent of the vote right so it shows you that the under 50 voter is not really
00:32:04.340voting in the primary right and so that means that the boomers are still going to get their
00:32:08.880candidates and it's going to make the party and i've said this this is the danger for the republican0.88
00:32:13.580party the zoomers and millennials are mad and they want to be in charge they're mad at the people who0.93
00:32:19.020are not they think the system has failed them there's a question we asked is the economic1.00
00:32:23.360system unfair to young people. It's like 65 to 30 people under 40 say it's unfair. So there probably
00:32:32.460is going to be some, I hesitate to say the word retribution, but there is going to be some
00:32:37.000legislation that puts them first. And they, they went, you know, you have an enemy, you have a
00:32:44.840strong enemy that is resisting you. You're going to burn them in effigy essentially. And the0.87
00:32:49.200republican party could be the symbolic face of the boomer generation because at least the democrat
00:32:54.940party is trying not to be that right and and the republican party is just digging into boomerism
00:33:00.220and you can see this everywhere all of the influencers like the burrito argument to like
00:33:06.360pull yourself up by the bootstraps we gotta be we you know you gotta vote red or you're dead like
00:33:11.200these are all 50 year old arguments last election of our lifetime yeah 100 again and again and again0.96
00:33:17.580They're just itching for a war with global Islam, and it's like it's not going to work with the under-40s.0.81
00:33:24.200Again, I don't like Sharia law, but the idea that you're going to build a viable political movement based on us having to conduct another crusade is like not – that's not where the under-40 voter is.0.98
00:33:36.400They want to crusade against waste, fraud, and abuse, which is why under the second Trump administration, for the very first time—and this is the most important dynamic, and I said this to Trump's face, and it underscores how inadequately prepared Republicans are to deal with this.
00:33:54.800The very idea that Republicans are approved of by young people is preposterous.
00:34:00.320And if they ever did anything right, they should study it for a generation.
00:34:04.620Trump had a 60% under 40 approval rating.