The NXR Podcast - THE SPECIAL - The Longhouse： White Men Are Cooked

00:00:00.000 The book is The Longhouse, and it is about how feminism destroyed the West. 1.00

00:00:04.540 Basically, it's this feminine-coded society and institutions at all levels. 1.00

00:00:09.680 And it makes a woman great at being a mother in her home. 0.99

00:00:13.460 It makes her really, really bad at something like ruling a nation. 0.98

00:00:16.640 So it's not necessarily that women are all the CEOs because they're not. 1.00

00:00:20.640 It's that women are the HR department, which controls... 1.00

00:00:24.400 You want to get men out of women's sports. 1.00

00:00:26.320 I want to get women out of women's sports. 1.00

00:00:28.060 We are not the same. 1.00

00:00:28.780 Kellen Andrews will say that the Great Awokening is just a product of mass feminization.

00:00:34.120 The COVID Karen is the avatar of the Longhouse. 0.92

00:00:37.180 The characteristics of a woman domestically applied are strengths, 0.99

00:00:41.180 but outside of the domestic context, they quickly become liability. 1.00

00:00:44.740 Women cannot rule any institution that you build. 1.00

00:00:47.760 This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. 1.00

00:00:51.900 Radical Christian nationalist pastor, Joel Webben.

00:00:55.840 Joel Webben.

00:00:57.200 I'm going to talk about Joel Webben.

00:00:58.780 Joe Wappin is in an accident.

00:01:19.520 All right, welcome back to the NXR special.

00:01:21.760 We are very privileged in this series of episodes.

00:01:25.000 So not just one, but this is going to be three parts.

00:01:28.040 We're going to have three parts over the next three Wednesdays on the NXR special with Eric Kahn and with Brian Silvey.

00:01:34.720 You guys are pastors in Refuge Church in Ogden, Utah, friends of mine.

00:01:39.020 And you've got a book coming out.

00:01:40.940 What's the name of the book?

00:01:42.540 Yeah, so the book is The Longhouse.

00:01:45.020 And it is about how feminism destroyed the West.

00:01:48.260 Yes. 1.00

00:01:48.860 And made us miserable.

00:01:49.960 And made us miserable.

00:01:51.420 Yeah, so actually, Joel, it's funny because the topic came because you assigned me like two years ago.

00:01:56.920 I remember that, yeah.

00:01:57.660 a talk at your conference on the longhouse so i started doing all this research on it and i said

00:02:04.040 like looking into it there's a lot here and so it's cool that was a year and a half ago and i

00:02:10.260 remember asking you like you know i think that topic is right up your alley and it's like heavily

00:02:15.740 needed but i remember asking you like hey you can that after your speech i said it was so good and

00:02:21.100 it was clear that like you manuscripted the whole thing out you had a lot of preparation

00:02:24.400 and then you were like yeah my notes like i could have you know i could have done gone you know

00:02:28.900 hours on this you know the amount of research and notes that i had i was like we should do a series

00:02:33.500 on it and then here we are like so you you know you're turning it into a book but i'm timely really

00:02:39.440 glad it only took like a year and a half yeah so a year and a half you know all things all things

00:02:44.180 that are good are worth waiting for in our defense it's the longest book we've ever published at

00:02:48.260 how many pages it's 117 000 words close to 400 pages well and it is fairly exhaustive in it's

00:02:57.140 not just some like brief cultural analysis it's actually going through the history the rise of

00:03:02.600 the longhouse what is the longhouse uh disproving some of the myths that people believe about the

00:03:08.080 longhouse like and we'll get into this in in the second episode of this series that people have 0.96

00:03:12.460 probably heard, you know, well, first wave feminism was great. Like, you know, women needed 0.92

00:03:18.000 to vote. We had a lot of like real injustices. And, and so we needed to fix some of those things. 1.00

00:03:23.540 It was really later, we got some crazies in with second. And some people say second wave feminism 0.97

00:03:28.380 was also good. And it was really third wave feminism. And, and then the trannies started 1.00

00:03:32.560 showing up and, and it's just simply a myth. So there, there were aspects of the story that the 1.00

00:03:38.720 more you look into it, the more you realize this is why one of the big pillar reasons why society

00:03:45.040 is the way that it is today. And also people have just been taught some of the most asinine 0.96

00:03:50.800 untruths about this history. And then connected to that, we realized so much of the work that

00:03:58.860 we've been laboring in in Ogden for the last decade plus has actually, like you could give

00:04:03.740 with the name, of de-longhousing a church and building institutions that are not long-housed.

00:04:10.620 And seeing the fruit of that made us realize this is a topic people need not just for historical

00:04:16.520 interest, but if you want to build any institution in America today that's going to truly flourish

00:04:23.020 and last and bear good fruit, like you have to figure out how to get out of the longhouse

00:04:27.120 and then build something that is not long-housed and not vulnerable to being long-housed.

00:04:31.640 and so the book really lands with some of that practical how do you hey you're in it how do you

00:04:38.600 get out yeah how do you build differently and we've had some frankly painful experience in

00:04:44.720 and a lot of it in both escaping the longhouse and then building some institutions a school

00:04:50.100 a publishing house a church etc that are sincerely not longhoused right and seeing the the fruit of

00:04:57.140 that so you keep using this word longhouse eric what is how would you define the longhouse yeah

00:05:03.180 so this is sort of a metaphor that came about really bap was using it bronze age pervert

00:05:08.440 um originally on first things jonathan keeperman i think he was writing under a pseudonym at the

00:05:14.460 time but he's since come out and said you know this is who he is he does an interview i think

00:05:19.260 for the new york times with ross do thought um but basically it's this feminine coded uh society

00:05:25.920 and institutions at all levels so it's not necessarily that women are all the ceos because 1.00

00:05:31.480 they're not it's that women are the hr department which controls the culture behavior and the 0.98

00:05:38.540 culture of a company but then as we saw in covid the other the other part of this uh is that it's 0.98

00:05:45.180 spread across all of society so you've had the long housing of the church which is another chapter

00:05:50.860 that we talk about you have the long housing of the economy in general yes so you get to the 1960s 0.88

00:05:56.480 we talk about this in episode two but uh the flood of women into the workplace well hr starts up in 0.93

00:06:03.100 1958 officially and then that's going to change how behavior uh is shaped in in that longhouse 0.67

00:06:10.320 and then brian was given a good synopsis of the book but we also talk about things like women in 0.57

00:06:15.300 sports. Yeah. How transgenderism and homosexuality, just think about the WNBA.

00:06:21.900 You want to get men out of women's sports. I want to get women out of women's sports. 1.00

00:06:25.640 We're not the same. We're not the same. Yes. And as we look into it, it's like, 1.00

00:06:30.860 yeah, you also have the economic factor, which is episode three in this series.

00:06:35.840 But you have a pink collar economy. The long housing of politics. 0.81

00:06:39.480 Yes. We're ruled in the nation. Really what we've seen in the longhouse is this picture

00:06:43.680 that's taken from the Amer-Indian,

00:06:48.000 pre-American peoples in the North American lands

00:06:51.500 who, you know, like the Iroquois and allegedly,

00:06:55.020 and it doesn't matter if this is historically

00:06:57.300 perfectly accurate.

00:06:58.520 Yeah, it's a useful metaphor.

00:06:59.760 It's the picture, it's the metaphor,

00:07:01.000 is that allegedly in these Iroquois societies,

00:07:04.480 you would have a long house.

00:07:05.840 It would be like the long hut,

00:07:07.640 as you know, they didn't master.

00:07:08.420 Two-story buildings yet. 0.98

00:07:09.880 So we got the long wigwam, 1.00

00:07:11.540 And that in the longhouse, the matriarch, the den mother, the woman was in charge and everybody submitted to her rule. And so that kind of shaped everything. 0.97

00:07:21.720 And so BAP and others have noted that American society has similarly been longhoused, that every institution has not necessarily, to Eric's point, been put under the direct leadership of women, but it has been shaped to be directed by feminine sensibilities.

00:07:42.260 Yes.

00:07:42.560 feminine coded norms. So you might have a male CEO in charge of a company, but he is directing 0.58

00:07:49.740 that company through a largely feminine and female coded and even female dominant HR department 0.55

00:07:55.340 to enforce feminine norms of in this, this runs from everything from safetyism to, you know, 0.99

00:08:04.140 facts over or feelings over facts. The way that women engage in conflict is utterly different 1.00

00:08:10.680 than men. It's not direct. It's more relational aggression. There's a huge focus. And Brian's

00:08:15.960 talked a lot about this on X, but a huge focus on consensus as a female norm of behavior versus men

00:08:25.140 who will form a hierarchy of competence. They're constantly ranking each other. This is why even 0.87

00:08:31.000 in the gun media world that I was in for a number of years, like the number one article format was

00:08:38.020 like ranking guns, ranking stuff, the best of all time, the best ranking stuff. Yeah. The best,

00:08:43.560 you know, NBA player, whatever people, men particularly love to do that. Women are actually

00:08:48.560 kind of averse to those things. So their forms of competition are going to be more covert, 1.00

00:08:53.800 passive aggressive. This is why I think Paul in scripture warns ladies, particularly 1.00

00:08:57.860 on the sins of gossip and slander and busy bodies. This is how women will tend to compete with one 1.00

00:09:06.100 another. And I think the other key thing is in 2012, the majority of institutions in America 0.94

00:09:13.480 became demographically predominantly female for the first time. Well, what happens in 2012? The

00:09:20.100 Great Awakening, BLM. So really like Helen Andrews will say that the Great Awakening is just a product 0.73

00:09:26.780 of mass feminization. Yes. That's all it is. What you think of as woke DEI culture is actually just,

00:09:33.920 And Helen Andrews argues persuasively, Helen Andrews, by the way, not like a patriarchal

00:09:38.300 right-wing Christian at all.

00:09:40.460 I spoke with her a few weeks ago.

00:09:42.140 She did an interview with me, yeah.

00:09:43.480 And just, but she's looking and saying, no, this is the data.

00:09:45.960 And what you think of as woke DEI culture, what most people do, it is the longhouse.

00:09:51.880 The COVID Karen is the avatar of the longhouse.

00:09:55.260 Yeah.

00:09:55.660 When you, even thinking about in terms of rank and hierarchy, we're not saying, and

00:10:02.840 people can miss this. We're not saying that these feminine instincts and tendencies are bad. 0.97

00:10:08.820 They're actually divinely originated. God made them. God actually made the woman and womankind 1.00

00:10:15.820 and femininity to have a certain nature and shape, which is geared towards peace and consensus,

00:10:23.420 forming, nurturing, love, caring. And so everything that makes a woman... 0.69

00:10:29.920 They can't be in charge.

00:10:30.900 No, everything that makes a woman great at being a mother in her home, you know, I think of my house, seven kids, three girls, four boys, and everything that makes my wife absolutely phenomenal at bringing them together and nurturing them.

00:10:47.200 And there's coziness and there's like, you know, think about conflicts with kids where, you know, hey, one kid, you can't hoard all of the crayons or the colored pencils at the table.

00:10:57.600 That's not fair.

00:10:58.440 We got to share. 0.98

00:10:59.180 it makes her really really bad at something like ruling a nation because then you go everybody we 1.00

00:11:04.580 can't hoard in america all the resources like the somalians have to be able to come and eat at the 0.99

00:11:09.200 lunch table too and they need some of the colored pencils and and those are categorically totally 0.95

00:11:13.840 different things right where it's great if she's caring for like a weaker sibling the difference

00:11:18.300 is i own all the colored pencils as the patriarch of the home and i have decreed that i want my

00:11:24.040 colored pencils to be used by all my kids when coloring time shows up and mom is is she all of 0.93

00:11:29.060 her instincts align to be so wonderful at that but then when you put her in charge of political 1.00

00:11:35.760 organizations and in you know things like universities and health care all of a sudden 1.00

00:11:43.360 law all of those deep and i cannot emphasize this enough deeply good things about the feminine 0.98

00:11:50.460 nature that i love and celebrate and want to see flourish in their lane they become not just 0.99

00:11:57.960 slightly worse than the male tendencies in those same spaces they become catastrophic yes to the

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00:13:32.260 The characteristics of a woman domestically applied are strengths, but outside of the domestic context, they quickly become liabilities. 1.00

00:13:41.920 Yes. 1.00

00:13:42.420 Not just poor substitutes, but actually an Achilles heel that lends towards the destruction of society.

00:13:49.280 You were saying consensus. 0.87

00:13:50.880 I very, in an endearing fashion, affectionately refer to women, generally speaking, and there are always exceptions, but as NPCs, yes.

00:13:59.780 but not so much in the non-player character fashion, but is, uh, the, the acronym would be,

00:14:07.020 uh, naturally pursuing consensus. And so women, um, cannot help, but, but think, um, it's herd 1.00

00:14:15.160 mentality. So it's like, where is, you know, where is the majority going? What is the majority 0.57

00:14:21.060 doing? Are we making sure to include everyone? And those like everything you're describing again,

00:14:27.520 And because I want people to understand that we're not saying that these are bad characteristics wholesale, inherently.

00:14:33.940 In a home, the reason why they're good characteristics is because all the children should be treated fairly.

00:14:39.320 As much as we hate egalitarianism, if there's anywhere, and even here there would be nuances,

00:14:44.260 but if there's anywhere where we could generally say egalitarianism is fitting,

00:14:49.100 it would be within a home with all seven of your children because they're all yours.

00:14:56.500 and you love them all and you actually want all of them to be like they all need some colored

00:15:01.900 pencils they're all beloved children right mom and dad but a nation is different it's it's not

00:15:07.160 seven children in a home where policies of fairness and equity actually pan out in a nation

00:15:13.860 those policies become detrimental and even even if you think in a home and and we all understand

00:15:18.920 this when we talk about institutions and and governments the home is the foundational

00:15:23.900 government. And in the home, God ordained that the husband would be the head, and the wife would be

00:15:30.080 his helper, and that he ought to lead and rule and correct and exhort and instruct, and she ought to

00:15:36.360 submit and obey and honor. And this order works well in the home, even just thinking about the

00:15:42.900 dynamic of the children. It's very important that I rule in my home, and that I can even do things

00:15:49.860 like say, you know, oldest son maybe, or second oldest son, or, you know, this son, he has a

00:15:56.320 particular gift. And in the hierarchy of, of the gifts of the home, he's really skilled at this

00:16:01.840 thing. And so he's going to get, and he's demonstrated maybe honor and respecting mom

00:16:05.940 and dad and obeying well, and he's earned some responsibility. And so he's going to get some

00:16:10.860 freedoms that maybe the third kid hasn't yet earned, the third son. And maybe the third son

00:16:16.700 looks at that and he goes, it's not fair. And I have to be able to step in and say, as dad,

00:16:23.200 son, no, no, no, you're misunderstanding this. It's perfectly equitable. You haven't earned it

00:16:28.280 yet. And even, and my wife's great. She wouldn't fall for that. But many female instincts would be, 1.00

00:16:35.440 oh, but it's not fair. Equal opera. Everybody, everything has to be equal. And they are pursuing 1.00

00:16:40.480 this forced equality of wokeness where everybody is an assured equality of outcome.

00:16:45.740 right and what you have to do in order to accomplish that of course is to lower the

00:16:52.180 level of greatness and to elevate mediocrity yes it's the recipe for mediocrity yeah and all you

00:16:58.060 get is mediocrity that's all you you're staffing weaknesses yes neglecting strengths and what you

00:17:03.060 get is a mediocre across the board and the great the the greats will opt out they will always find

00:17:08.520 a way to thrive yeah truly great men and high intellects and high capacity they'll always find

00:17:13.680 a way to win, but they won't win by playing by the rules of your little thing in here.

00:17:19.120 They'll either subvert those rules and gain dominance over them by politically manipulating

00:17:23.740 them, which is why many a strong patriarchal man is ruling a long house institution. He's just on

00:17:30.060 top of it. He's the dad that they're all submitting to. He's the husband that they're all obeying.

00:17:35.700 Well, I think that's one of the biggest things you have to understand is that this whole 1.00

00:17:38.640 egalitarian feminist framework. We're calling it metaphorically the long house. It's hard for us 1.00

00:17:44.560 to fathom that that didn't exist until roughly mid-1960s. We cataloged just a wave of political

00:17:52.900 change that happened. But Brian, that's kind of what, maybe you could talk about this a little

00:17:58.140 bit, but chapter one, we wanted to look into it and we wanted to say, what was the world like

00:18:04.320 before feminism yes yeah and and some shocking numbers like 90 to 95 percent in like 1960 90 to

00:18:12.880 95 percent of the population was white european right uh it was patriarchal it was this is the

00:18:18.580 heyday of the wasp um you look at what happened with uh you know civil rights um so maybe just

00:18:26.440 talk a little bit about that like what what was the sweeping changes that took place yeah when i

00:18:30.940 mean, it's important to understand that the Longhouse didn't just arise ex nihilo from

00:18:35.760 nowhere. The Longhouse was replacing and conquering a previous order. Intentionally.

00:18:41.640 And that order was the last vestiges of Christendom. It was patriarchal, white, Christian 0.99

00:18:47.520 America. And really, by the time we hit that second wave of feminism, again, we'll go through 0.73

00:18:53.600 this history in the second episode in some detail, but just to pin a time on it, the second wave of 0.93

00:18:58.120 feminism is is coterminous with the sexual revolution of the 60s there we get the civil 0.82

00:19:03.260 rights act all these things that is the result of a long work of activism under the scenes by a very 0.88

00:19:08.960 power a minority but a vocal politically active minority and largely you have a lot of blacks

00:19:15.620 and jews working on the civil rights mainly blacks and jews yeah quite quite a few and then you have 0.86

00:19:20.240 uh they're they're working to shape opinion yes uh they're working to subvert institutions and 0.97

00:19:26.440 it really it takes a foothold and they they're gaining a lot of power in the middle of the 20th

00:19:30.500 century and really yeah i was going to say first abortion laws ronald reagan yeah california no

00:19:36.320 fault divorce comes you have of course the pill amnesty with reagan too many of the things that

00:19:41.620 that led to the this being possible were they were not all just social some were technological

00:19:46.620 like the birth control pill legal in the 50s and and then really gaining widespread use in the 60s

00:19:52.300 and beyond. So what you're seeing there is all of that work, root work, beginning the trees now

00:20:00.000 growing up and it's bearing fruit. And from that point on, if you want to trace nearly every aspect

00:20:06.160 of what we would consider deep decline in American society, things like the second constitutional

00:20:14.600 order is passed, subverting the first, the Civil Rights Act.

00:20:17.460 1964 you know in 1964 1965 you have heart cellar heart cellar with the heart cellar act with

00:20:24.340 immigration all of that absolutely throws gasoline on the fire and by the time you get to today

00:20:30.880 you're now at a not a christian society overall like church attendance that was the wild thing

00:20:37.620 so we started looking at a church attendance and you know you take it for what it's worth but it's

00:20:41.800 still higher the number of people who claim to be christian in like 1960 is in the 90th percentile

00:20:47.940 90th church attendance is in the 70s and by the time you get to the interesting years are 2020

00:20:55.240 to 2023 because it goes from you know i forget the exact it's around 56 and it literally drops

00:21:04.500 i believe it's 26 percent in a two to three year period in 2020 church attendance claiming to be

00:21:10.240 church attendance okay saying i attend like and it's all self-described these polls a lot of them

00:21:16.380 like i attend a christian church but essentially during this many times during the 2020 era yeah

00:21:23.280 uh you you dropped like 25 in church attendance like which people say oh that was covid but the

00:21:30.660 question is did we bounce back no no covid safetyism is a perfect case in point of feminine 0.87

00:21:38.500 norms that's a feminine sensibility reified right well think about let's keep everybody safe it 1.00

00:21:44.280 matters but safety is safety first becomes this iron blanket over society that stifles all of 0.69

00:21:51.740 these other safety is a good priority somewhere on the list yeah like we should not all want to 0.97

00:21:57.920 die from stu for stupid reasons right like your electrician having no no idea what he's doing 0.99

00:22:04.600 would be it'd be really stupid to try to plug in your toaster in the morning and get electrocuted 1.00

00:22:09.100 and that happened like a lot right so it's on the list but safety isn't to the point where let's 0.98

00:22:15.400 destroy the economy the education system you know the external practice of religion in the nation

00:22:21.980 all these things because 0.01 percent of us might die right you go my my my fellow americans

00:22:31.900 that's always the case yeah some of us are going to die in fact the death rate last i looked is

00:22:37.880 hovering around 100 yeah so the coat the the feminine sensibility though goes this is the

00:22:44.400 mom whose kid is at the skate park and he has knee pads wrist guards a full motorcycle helmet

00:22:51.240 ankle braces he's got a bicycle with uh training wheels one of those orbs around him he's inside

00:22:58.400 of an orb paramedics the paramedics are on staff and then she's like don't go too fast johnny like

00:23:05.460 covid was that just societally in the medical industry and across so things were damaged there

00:23:12.100 that are irreparable or at least will take a long long time to repair and a lot it's easier to wreck

00:23:17.460 something than it is to rebuild it you can do it a lot quicker you can wreck a house quicker than

00:23:21.420 you can build one and what people miss is that there are yeah there's there's statism there's

00:23:26.920 lots of issues that went into that but one of the foundational ingredients is the longhouse 1.00

00:23:34.700 yeah it's feminism and a feminine desire for safety yes

00:23:38.480 and i have literally sat there and seen this for myself and i've literally had them offer me all

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00:24:28.720 conference. I think it's something just worth pointing out not to miss. The whole white

00:24:33.340 Christian America thing is so important because, you know, now I think most people are predicting 0.78

00:24:39.940 by 2050, 2060, that the white demographic will be less than 50%. There's an active war on white

00:24:48.800 people. And this is a really important point to connect to one of the things that in the long 0.89

00:24:53.760 house is not permitted, which is hierarchies of competence. So one of the problems with

00:25:00.000 that demographic invasion and replacement, and there's other things that go into it, like

00:25:06.120 white people apostatizing from the Christian faith and not having babies, and there's a whole

00:25:10.100 lot, the economy, but it's all connected. One of the things that makes that such an evil 0.98

00:25:15.780 is that it turns out that for a great society

00:25:20.940 to rise up, a great civilization,

00:25:23.260 and even something like a great nation,

00:25:25.540 you need a certain critical mass of higher IQ,

00:25:30.500 higher competence men doing a certain collection of things,

00:25:35.080 business activities, infrastructure, civil leadership,

00:25:38.180 and what you're seeing right now.

00:25:39.660 While being mostly unrestrained.

00:25:41.880 And unrestrained.

00:25:42.900 They actually have to be in charge.

00:25:44.140 So that's a hierarchy of competence where they earn their way to the top and then you let them cook. What we're seeing right now is that even in absolute terms, the number of 130 plus IQ men, people, just if you just said people, is on a massive decline.

00:26:01.520 and especially in if you looked at you know like in the west one of the reasons is because

00:26:07.460 mass immigration floods the population with generally lower iq and again in the words of

00:26:14.980 one of uh joel's favorite jews ben shapiro um facts don't care about your feelings right so

00:26:20.500 this may be controversial but it is factual yeah is many of these immigrant populations

00:26:25.360 the browning of america is also it's the lowering of america's iq just on average it's just math

00:26:31.100 It's just math. And then when you factor into that, and you've talked about this before, some of the not even moral reasons, take the moral question completely off the table with something like Hollywood's obsession with promoting interracial marriage.

00:26:45.760 But that is going to produce a populace over time where you will, it's not a question of if, but when. You will lose a critical mass of that population that's always been in that 1960, 90 plus percent white America. It was like one in 50 people would have been. 0.63

00:27:06.640 If you had a room of 100 men in America, just an average slice, two of them out of 100 would have had an IQ of, you know, high enough for this group on average.

00:27:15.440 Right.

00:27:15.780 But then when you go through all the demographic change from 1960 through today, that number.

00:27:22.960 And not just that they're here, but also that we've all mixed together.

00:27:26.080 The multiculturalism and its effects. 0.89

00:27:28.440 You know, and all this, again, back to, well, it's not fair that America would have a lot more money and a lot more power, a lot more food and a lot more, all these things. 0.95

00:27:36.240 And the solution isn't for those native populations elsewhere to love their people, fix their country. 1.00

00:27:42.440 It's always bring them here. 1.00

00:27:44.560 And then there's some magic when the plane crosses the invisible border.

00:27:49.540 They get a 15 IQ bump and the Declaration of Independence is written on their soul by the Holy Spirit.

00:27:56.700 And he will cause them to walk in its ways.

00:27:59.580 And all these magical transformations happen.

00:28:01.940 The problem is that all of that is nonsense, magical thinking that is fundamentally irrational and emotional thinking. It's very feminine coded. And what will happen, not if, but when, is that that society will at some point tip over and cease to be, at first it will cease to be able to create new innovation in that civilization building category, but then it will actually cease to be able to even maintain it. 1.00

00:28:29.320 and this is south africa this is rhodesia zimbabwe you have zimbabwe you have the removal

00:28:36.360 and the the flight and and militant war against this population that built say in rhodesia or

00:28:41.920 south africa these great functional civilization and then there's a tipping point where they're

00:28:47.420 not making new ground but they can maintain it but now what happened when all the farming was

00:28:52.900 taken back well people starve to death yeah zimbabwe is now at a point where they're asking 0.50

00:28:57.940 white people to come back and so you need you need to one of the first things and i'm getting 0.92

00:29:03.740 all the way to the end of the book you want to eat you need white people well if you want to eat 0.90

00:29:07.520 like you actually have to obey the laws of nature you have to and i don't mean evolutionary i mean 0.93

00:29:12.640 nature as god the lord of nature wrote the book sowing and harvest and seed time like yeah you

00:29:18.960 have to have you have to say um we are actually going to let competence and hierarchies of

00:29:25.640 competence rule how most institutions are governed most of the time. And yeah, there's mercy and

00:29:33.140 compassion, and a good king is going to say, it's not all just going to be this hard lex talionis,

00:29:39.360 all that, like there's such thing as mercy and noblesse oblige, and there are all these other

00:29:44.100 beauties that can be sustained under the benevolent sun of hierarchies of competence

00:29:50.100 in the world God made, especially righteously governed for the love of God and people,

00:29:56.340 which is the fulfillment of all the law. But the second you say, but that's not fair,

00:30:03.980 and that sentence comes out of your mouth, and then especially if you institutionalize it,

00:30:08.240 and this is what the longhouse is, in principle, you have just made at least the highest form of

00:30:15.800 civilization? Impossible. Yeah. Well, it's interesting to me too, Brian, because like one

00:30:21.620 of the things we found in the research, you can read all these like secular psychologists who,

00:30:26.800 what they're seeing is God, God's nature written in the sexes, right? They're like, wow, men and 0.53

00:30:32.720 women are different. Or Helen Andrews, you know, they're saying, yeah, like Helen says, she's got

00:30:38.320 a long article on the great feminization, right? And she says in there, I just don't think the

00:30:43.240 legal system will survive the rule of women that's a that's like a direct quotation yeah it's a direct 0.97

00:30:49.360 quote i don't think the rule will survive i think one of the problems and this is what we're trying

00:30:52.640 to alleviate in part with the book is we actually go further and in giving what the solution is

00:30:58.420 right and it's actually very simple women cannot rule any institution that you build right no right

00:31:04.540 and this is i think including the home including the home and this is where i think uh we've even 0.77

00:31:09.320 in the reform circle you know we've had certain forms of like feminist patriarchy um and what

00:31:14.960 we're saying with the book is you you can't do that no you can't have like this gilderism of

00:31:21.240 george gilder george gilder where you're sort of building another halfway house my wife let me have

00:31:26.560 a diet coke today and ultimately this is and i think you've experienced this this is where we

00:31:30.480 all get in trouble as we say well if these are the biblical principles and these are how our

00:31:34.100 christian forefathers applied them uh brian was talking about this the other day on x i thought 1.00

00:31:39.100 it was great it's fine in christian circles to bemoan the evils of feminism absolutely permissible

00:31:44.520 the minute you start proposing solutions that accord with scripture yeah that's where you're

00:31:49.520 going to get in trouble yeah i've said for years like the reason that i get in trouble there's a

00:31:53.240 number of reasons but one of them is application yes the reality is not many people are actually

00:31:59.540 bristle at exegesis interpretation so uh you can be you can hold to you know some spicy doctrines

00:32:06.980 It may not even be popular, the Minority Report, where you're exegeting Romans chapter 9 and giving credence to the sovereignty of God over the agency of man.

00:32:15.280 And you'll offend some people, but at the end of the day, nobody hates you.

00:32:20.320 Nobody necessarily wants to kill you.

00:32:22.400 But it's when you begin to apply, because application requires a certain degree of specificity.

00:32:29.420 And most people actually hedge their bets through ambiguity.

00:32:33.200 and actually the way that they soften things is by simply being less clear yeah they can there's

00:32:38.800 a little door of escape here technically in that third uh you know subjunctive conditional i left

00:32:44.420 myself this logical trap door where actually none of the seemingly offensive things i said turned

00:32:50.120 out to be offensive at all which is really feminine and and also um just because not not

00:32:56.080 trying to cast shade but just because all three of us um have experienced this individual doing it

00:33:01.060 um that that's part of i think what frustrated us with pastor doug wilson you know he's it's not the

00:33:07.620 worst man in the world we've learned some good things from him but that is one thing that um

00:33:11.680 he did and and to his credit like at first it's like oh come on you're just but then you let you

00:33:17.460 go back and check the receipts you're like holy crap he actually did it for 40 years he actually

00:33:23.280 intentionally left a trap door in every single one of his blogs articles books like he literally

00:33:29.000 and to the point where it's not accidental it's like he knew what he was doing he was leaving

00:33:33.860 himself and out all along the way to where he could be viewed as kind of like leading the the

00:33:38.640 spicy um edgelord train and then at the right moment he could pivot with plausible deniability

00:33:45.840 and get to be well in moderate centrist and win the day this is this is the hard thing but that 0.96

00:33:50.260 is a feminine thing to do this is the hard thing about it um we're talking you know episode two 0.94

00:33:55.800 we'll talk more about the economy but just take this one episode three will be economy excuse me 1.00

00:34:00.280 yeah episode three economy that's right uh but when you have a woman let's say just just make 1.00

00:34:06.280 it up she's a very popular podcaster who gets paid fifty thousand dollars for every hour of

00:34:13.120 speaking just hypothetically hypothetically what happened what are you actually threatening when

00:34:18.620 you say actually you should go home yeah money you're threatening economy so but not just her

00:34:23.980 no it's all the the dudes above her glenn beck who are profiting off right that's correct because

00:34:30.320 it's a wild and her husband her husband probably likes that extra income yeah it's a wildly

00:34:34.920 profitable industry we we've often said this uh for boomers there's certain kind of catnip

00:34:40.720 yes and a blonde female is one of them a blonde news lady a blonde blonde news lady look at fox

00:34:47.200 news like also also like a middle-aged black guy who uh found a discovered how to use a beard 0.57

00:34:54.060 trimmer yes oh yeah yeah this is there's various forms of tokenism that boomers absolutely they

00:35:01.840 fall for it every time yes yeah and i think what you're going to see like we've seen it already

00:35:06.740 but i think you know lord willing the longhouse gets out the book does people read it it will be

00:35:12.420 the application that causes problems yes and and think about this the book of acts what happens

00:35:18.000 to paul i was just when he preaches he's preaching the gospel and the silversmiths at a certain point

00:35:24.680 he becomes so effective that it actually has economic repercussions the great god uh starts

00:35:29.760 with the demis artemis yeah demetrius the silversmith demetrius is silver and and that's

00:35:35.300 when they want to kill him so it's it's like we'll tolerate you know because there's a certain point

00:35:39.420 Where the hall of Tyrannus and, you know, in Ephesus.

00:35:42.820 For two years.

00:35:43.500 Actually, we will come and hear you again.

00:35:45.080 We find your teachings to be fascinating.

00:35:46.860 It's like when it's just in the realm of ideology,

00:35:49.340 then it's even if there's sharp disagreement,

00:35:51.200 it's entertaining, right?

00:35:52.620 But when it actually hits the ground in application

00:35:55.900 and there are economic repercussions,

00:35:58.220 then all of a sudden it's like,

00:35:59.740 well, I've been teaching this all along. 1.00

00:36:01.280 Yeah, but now we actually want to kill you. 0.99

00:36:03.160 Well, and it's just a human thing because, 0.99

00:36:05.380 and I say this, a lot of the guy,

00:36:08.120 take Pastor Wilson there. A lot of this era, I think people actually also, giving them the

00:36:14.860 benefit of the doubt, believed the trapdoors. They convictionally said, no, no, this is,

00:36:20.880 I know that it's not ideal that we would have a hypothetical lady podcaster making $50,000 1.00

00:36:26.420 appearance. Again, totally hypothetical, just random example. She's not preaching. She's 1.00

00:36:30.160 lecturing men about the Bible. Let's just say in this hypothetical example. She chooses not to,

00:36:33.720 but she could preach. She could do it better than you. And maybe hypothetically, this would have

00:36:37.620 been one of the first disagreements where a hypothetical influential minister might have

00:36:42.020 said to some other influential ministers, like, hey, you know, don't go hard against this, because

00:36:46.720 then the organization that hypothetical lady works for might not interview me on the big platform, 0.98

00:36:52.620 just hypothetically. Hypothetically. But some of it legitimately is that the feminist, the long 1.00

00:36:58.940 housing, these principles have gone so deep culturally that you just will find, and I say

00:37:05.760 this like to my shame there is still a part of brian survey that is long housed yeah and of joel

00:37:12.080 webbin and eric khan all of us but mainly if we make progress if we make progress one of the ways

00:37:19.620 we'll know we genuinely made progress is that our children will point things out about us and let's

00:37:26.800 say dad why did you do that and we'll say and i hope we will have the humility to say yeah you

00:37:32.200 know what son this was really hard and i'm telling you this stuff went deep and we thought that was

00:37:36.560 right well actually and we were wrong i'll even use the name because he's a published author

00:37:41.480 but adam madden who wrote the productive household he was one of the first people that really got me

00:37:46.820 reading years ago reading william goodge yeah but adam as a pastor was super faithful in this he

00:37:53.180 would say this to me all the time he said hey you guys teach this principle i agree with you

00:37:56.920 what about that application yeah what about this application over here like should young girls be

00:38:03.820 in like debate club and then you'd be like and and so i think you need the epistemic humility

00:38:10.660 to be able to say i do need to think through that principle a little bit better and and this is yeah

00:38:15.860 and people will play the gotcha game later and they'll be like oh look you used to do this thing

00:38:20.020 it's like well yeah by the grace of god we're all being sanctified we did this thing called

00:38:23.840 repenting we want to repent i'm never going to be the kind of person that says i've never changed

00:38:28.640 yeah isn't that a weird brag to say you know what in 20 years i've never been sanctified by the

00:38:32.980 spirit of god even in house well when you put it that way right but that's what they're saying

00:38:37.980 is like in 20 years i've repented for nothing i've changed for nothing i have not been sanctified or

00:38:43.820 grown whatsoever and you should follow me because i promise you i'm a man who will never improve

00:38:48.680 like that's weird that's a weird brain and the reality is this is why it's so hard when you're

00:38:53.980 talking about there a previous christian order that was conquered and replaced by a new satanic 0.61

00:39:01.800 order this feminist longhouse order it's fundamentally satanic even and we'll get into 1.00

00:39:06.320 this in the history but the uh the the early feminists explicitly reinterpreted the bible 1.00

00:39:11.880 even wrote their own women's bible where eve and satan are the heroes throwing off this the

00:39:17.760 revolutionary hero is so so yeah if if that's true and it is then wait hold up i i know this

00:39:24.920 the uh the woman who wrote the feminist bible what was her name that's elizabeth caddy stanton

00:39:30.240 yeah elizabeth what was the last name stanton stanton okay so if that's true then what you're

00:39:36.740 going to find is when you start escaping the longhouse and building outside of it it's kind

00:39:40.660 of like you're constantly going to be replacing things on the airplane in mid-flight because

00:39:47.040 you'll figure out, oh, it actually went deeper than that. I thought it went to here, and so we

00:39:51.240 correct it all the way to there, and then you discover a lot of times through practice, oh, 1.00

00:39:55.760 there's still some feminist rot here. As an example, we started St. Brennan's Classical 1.00

00:40:00.940 Christian Academy in Ogden, Utah. It is a Christian school, grades 1 through 12. One thing

00:40:07.320 we realized is that, hey, especially by the time you get to secondary education, junior and senior 0.78

00:40:12.520 you're high, you really need to divide the boys and the girls. And so our upper years are a boys

00:40:20.040 school and a girls school. And guess what? They don't even have the same hours. The girls school

00:40:25.620 is two days a week in a class with an older godly lady. The boys school is four days a week.

00:40:33.160 It has completely different, like they are very different things. And then here's another layer

00:40:37.360 you start going through. My wife and I are talking this summer. We go, you know what?

00:40:41.060 uh throughout you know pastor madden you have you have adam madden who wrote the productive

00:40:45.800 household with us at new christian press and we're reading that and going this this concept of

00:40:51.540 context time with your kids and and content the content you fill with that time and my wife says

00:40:58.420 you know honey i would really be i would love to have more time with our with our daughters

00:41:03.180 in the home and we we want them to be able to read well and think well and of course yeah we

00:41:09.040 want that yep but what if we didn't what if we actually kept them home what if the boys went to

00:41:15.120 school and the girls did homeschooling with mom and so that's what we do in our household and

00:41:20.300 these are corrections you make mid-flight and each one of them you have a temptation to say

00:41:24.760 ah but then i would have to admit that i was doing something suboptimal right and then i'll

00:41:30.340 have to change wait this was the other thing well the biggest thing for you guys because you are

00:41:34.960 public figures is it's not even so much i'll have to change it's when i change inevitably it's

00:41:42.060 public all these guys are gonna they finna drag you you know like and and but and that's part of

00:41:49.040 what makes it such a wicked thing it really angers me and i'm i'm doing today i i i prayed

00:41:54.400 this morning i i was determined when i came to meet with the guys i'm gonna i'm gonna be on my

00:41:59.220 best behavior so i'm gonna you know restrain my emotions but it really is such a wicked thing

00:42:03.960 that uh one of the biggest inhibitions to um to christians especially christians with any kind of

00:42:11.480 public sphere influence changing repenting would be the biblical word is other christians who are

00:42:17.800 going to hold it against them mock them uh rub it in their face um they've made the cost of

00:42:24.040 repentance there's always a cost um but the cost is having to to look to the lord and and say lord

00:42:31.280 I sinned against you. I was wrong. Please forgive me and change me. That's the embedded cost of

00:42:38.120 repentance. It's always there, but it's such a wicked thing when brothers in Christ who bear 1.00

00:42:44.920 the name of Christ add to the cost of repentance. They make repentance less likely and harder.

00:42:50.940 Yeah. Yeah. It's one of the cool things too. I know we've talked about Adam a little bit,

00:42:54.420 but it's just an encouragement, I think, for some of the older men.

00:42:57.200 uh adam is great he's a little bit older than i am right but in love to be able to come to a

00:43:04.100 brother and say like hey what about that principle and and one of them was the girls um because we

00:43:09.160 were thinking through you know we've seen some of these reform models where you've got really

00:43:14.220 like colleges for girls right and adam asked me one time he said what is the point what is the aim

00:43:20.540 the talos of education for a girl i just thought about it i said well well ultimately motherhood

00:43:27.860 right and he goes cool where do they learn how to be a mother he's like do they learn that at

00:43:33.480 college right and i was like well no no they would learn that from their mother and he was like great

00:43:40.420 so why are we sending our girls to school till they're 26 years old yeah it's pretty crazy to

00:43:45.580 to claim to be patriarchal and to say K through 12 for these 13 pivotal years of,

00:43:53.280 of a child's life that we're going to have no discernible difference whatsoever by design

00:43:58.200 intentionally. So no discernible difference whatsoever in the way that we shape a boy and

00:44:02.720 the way that we shape a girl, but we absolutely believe that boys and girls are different. 0.53

00:44:06.200 And then to add on top of it and say, you know what, they're 18 years old at this point, right?

00:44:11.300 we're already four or five years past puberty but probably still not enough let's go ahead and get

00:44:16.340 them to 22 23 years old and add you know a four year but it's okay because it's classical and

00:44:21.600 christian and um for anybody who halfway through wants to drop out who's a girl because she wants

00:44:27.080 to get married and start having kids uh we're actually going to like sell t-shirts um that say

00:44:32.120 for breeding purposes only and mock them but we're patriarchal yeah and that's like could you imagine

00:44:37.760 if anyone did that. I mean, that's, that is truly crazy. Yeah. It's a, it's a wild thing. And I think

00:44:42.880 part of the reason like we bring it up and I'll let Brian talk a little bit about this. One of

00:44:47.460 the critiques that we get when you, when you publish a long house book is people say, you're

00:44:52.400 just a bunch of like angry men throwing rocks at something that you have no intention of ever

00:44:57.480 changing. And I think Brian, you've had good responses that like, actually the point of all

00:45:02.740 this why we're sharing some of these examples we've actually gone through the long arduous work

00:45:08.260 over like a decade to build anti-longhouse or non-longhouse entities and to refine your own

00:45:16.000 entities yes yes that you were building with good intentions and that were by comparison far better

00:45:21.820 than the alternative and yet still had some embedded feminism within it and so having to

00:45:27.900 reshape and refine again and again and then coming out now with a a like by the grace of god a

00:45:35.080 beautiful product yeah um like you that's that's why i wanted to interview guys you guys it's not

00:45:39.900 just because you wrote a book um but it's because i've known you at a personal level and i've and

00:45:43.860 i've been you know um on the ground where you guys are doing a great work a great endeavor

00:45:49.140 and seeing the fruit of it and so um a lot of people want to write a book a lot of people um

00:45:55.180 and now with ai anybody anybody anybody can do one although i don't think ai i don't think it

00:46:01.080 would have really liked these prompts i'm gonna be honest i don't think you would have done it

00:46:05.100 dude our uh hyphenated heresy judeo-christianity ai would not write the book no like it just it was

00:46:10.660 like nope and then we're coming out with another one uh white genocide good night dude i thought

00:46:15.600 like ai didn't want to talk about the jews it definitely doesn't want to talk about race um

00:46:20.220 unless you want to talk about there's one thing so it won't talk about jews it won't talk about

00:46:24.120 race but it will talk about jews being the superior race the chosen race so so what today i will

00:46:30.000 actually discuss isn't that funny but anyways i i wanted to have you guys on the show because

00:46:35.420 you are actually in practice you're putting your money and your blood sweat and tears your time

00:46:41.540 your years where your mouth is and you are doing a good endeavor on the ground and you didn't get

00:46:47.780 it right and i i see this as a plus you did not get it right in the first uh rendition you didn't

00:46:53.840 get it right right out of the gate you had to go back and refine and change like we're at 4.7

00:46:59.420 yeah you know like software releases right and so so i hope that people will buy this book i know

00:47:05.620 there's more to talk about but but real quick one um where will they be able to find it two

00:47:11.240 when does it actually release three pre-orders when does that start yeah this is so the book

00:47:16.280 is available for pre-order right now at new christenempress.com slash longhouse or just go

00:47:22.060 to newchristinempress.com it'll be right on the home page and we are doing a pre-order sale so

00:47:27.880 you know one of the things being a being an independent publishing house who doesn't sell

00:47:31.980 through amazon because they absolutely rake us over the coals and we don't want to be canceled

00:47:36.460 not no shade against anybody that does but we chose not to sell any any of our physical books

00:47:42.240 on amazon from the get-go employ our own people build our own warehouse shipping fulfillment all

00:47:47.100 of that and we've done that um but that means that when we're higher profit margins i mean to

00:47:52.520 employ our own people even for about a bit of both for the company at the end of the day it's

00:47:58.020 it's pretty similar because we pay our people right you know but the the difference is that

00:48:04.300 that means when we go to publish a book like the longhouse book that we're putting out it's higher

00:48:09.340 you know 50 to 100 000 before we make a dollar right so because of that we appreciate that new

00:48:16.420 Christian Impress readers have been really faithful in supporting our pre-orders. We have a six-week

00:48:21.500 period roughly. It'll come out about the second week of October. It'll start shipping. But we give

00:48:26.540 everybody 10% off during that pre-order automatically. No code needed. You just go buy the book. You'll

00:48:31.460 get 10% off. And then Eric and I are also going to sign the first 1,000 copies. So if you hate us

00:48:36.440 enough and you just hate reading it and you don't want a signed copy, you're going to want to wait

00:48:39.560 about a couple days. But we're going to sign the first 1,000 copies of the book in pre-order just

00:48:45.100 as a thank you. And, uh, we really do hope that this book, um, in, in the way that there's been

00:48:52.840 some books recently that, uh, have made actually like beyond their weight class, I think of Jeremy

00:48:59.280 Carl's, the unprotected class. Um, I know for a fact that that's a book that got some ideas

00:49:04.920 because it was very persuasive, um, in the heads of even people in high cabinet and, you know,

00:49:10.340 in Trump's administration, a lot of guys read that book. People who probably didn't,

00:49:13.160 wouldn't even admit for a long time they read that book or were influenced by it um so we're

00:49:18.100 hoping that this is a book that people can secretly privately maybe they even hate us right but they'd

00:49:24.080 give it a hearing and they read they'd get the book and they'd read it and they'd learn the

00:49:27.060 history and they would they would also see the connection between all these things and that

00:49:32.360 maybe it would and the thing is they might not agree with every single thing that we believe or

00:49:38.080 every application, but I do think that it's incontrovertible that the core thesis is true.

00:49:45.400 And that, you know, apply it maybe in your context, you're not quite, maybe you're not

00:49:50.900 ready for this, but your kids will love it kind of thing. You know, we've all been there.

00:49:54.540 Right. But we are praying, we're asking the Lord that he would use this book that way,

00:50:00.300 because for us, our central vocation, both Eric and I, we're pastors. By God's grace, I've been

00:50:09.280 able to write music and we've done podcasts and we've published books and done the conference,

00:50:13.960 but we're pastors. And that means that we have a people in Ogden, Utah, this wonderful church

00:50:22.560 full of people that we know and that we love. And we're doing this work because we know and

00:50:28.760 love those people. And we've seen the fruit that it's born. We did not show up as a church of,

00:50:34.480 you know, 500 plus just people who all happened to come to these wildly controversial positions

00:50:41.060 independently. We've all been through the pain to varying levels of not just coming to these

00:50:49.760 realizations, but living at peace with them. The pain of your own repentance and in your own homes

00:50:55.840 and your marriages and your parenting,

00:50:57.640 but also knowing some of your story,

00:51:00.040 the pain of people that you love

00:51:02.220 and that you want to disparage,

00:51:03.540 but the pain of not something that you designed

00:51:07.580 or had intent for,

00:51:08.620 but a providential turnover of that church.

00:51:11.640 Yes.

00:51:12.100 It's not the same 500 people.

00:51:14.180 So some of them have made the journey with you.

00:51:16.080 Praise God for that.

00:51:17.380 But your church-

00:51:19.440 I think there's more people that have left

00:51:20.840 than go there now.

00:51:21.680 Exactly.

00:51:21.980 Yeah, over the year.

00:51:22.760 I mean, I've passed you for 15 years there.

00:51:24.200 But my point is I want to, you know, to boast of you guys for a moment that like you did it at great cost with each of these marks and stages of repentance, especially a host of issues, but especially this issue of feminism, you paid a hefty cost, massive turnover.

00:51:45.660 where it's like, like, it's like just like the reverse side of, you know, the great God Artemis

00:51:52.760 and Ephesus, the silversmiths, and it's having an economic light. It's like, well, you know,

00:51:57.300 salaries for the leadership of the church might have to get cut because half of them are gone.

00:52:03.120 The members now. Yeah. There were times, there were many times when we had this really faithful

00:52:07.460 deacon early in the ministry, early in the minute, I've been pastoring there for about 15 years

00:52:11.360 and part of the church from its founding, just as a young, like about to graduate high school.

00:52:17.240 And we had this great deacon who came along from the previous pastors who there was a series of

00:52:23.540 unfortunate events. And I ended up flying the plane at like 23, which is a terrible idea and

00:52:27.500 nobody should try to do it. But I was the last man standing there, the last pastor standing from

00:52:33.180 adultery and other stuff. And so there I am. And there were many times he would come to me and

00:52:38.620 this guy single-handedly based, kept us from bankruptcy many times as a church. And he would

00:52:42.960 say, Hey, Brian, um, like we, we're going to have to skip this next pay period because, uh, there's,

00:52:50.000 there's actually no money. It turns out you can't write checks. Small problem. Yeah. Small problem.

00:52:55.520 And, and by God's grace, very thankful we've been provided. Well, Lexi and I have never missed like

00:53:00.900 a house payment or we've never gone hungry. The Lord's provided everything we've needed,

00:53:04.460 but there are through this process i mean there are things to this day that i that i recognize

00:53:10.400 are actual defects like i have a hard time it takes a long time to become my friend

00:53:16.980 because for 10 years i had friend after friend after friend in the church who in not just in

00:53:26.260 small ways but like betrayal try to get you fired leave gossip about you you hear member we've heard

00:53:32.760 membership interviews from people who are like, yeah, you know, I heard from the, you know, so

00:53:36.980 and so that you guys were like a literal cult and you, and then name all these things that we

00:53:41.880 genuinely don't believe things that didn't happen. Just flagrant, slanderous lies about you that

00:53:47.880 really affect your good name. And a huge number of them came back to this process of confronting

00:53:57.320 egalitarianism and feminism in the church yeah and and i will say for anybody who's on the other

00:54:02.980 we're on the side where now god's blessing is heavy because legitimate like we're we're kind of 0.54

00:54:09.380 you know i'm kind of retarded like we're we just we just do we did a lot of things because we didn't 0.58

00:54:14.340 know you weren't allowed to do them and then by the time we found out you weren't allowed to do 0.79

00:54:17.180 them well we did them and they worked you know so if you're on the other side of that where you

00:54:21.960 haven't done them yet i will say if you embrace suffering it's going to be painful you might not

00:54:27.280 succeed but but i believe it's 100 worth it yes and this is a huge part of it too i think a lot

00:54:33.980 of people i anticipate will read the longhouse book and they'll say according to the current

00:54:38.720 political imagination this is not possible yes all the reason we'll talk about the 19th amendment

00:54:43.500 we'll talk about all sorts of things but you have to understand what we're trying to do is be

00:54:48.220 prophets to change the political imagination right yeah you're not this is not a book of

00:54:53.420 one-to-one policies for a current sitting senator or congressman to try to employ this is the

00:55:01.220 principles the prophetic role that gets the ball rolling says here's the ideal politics is the

00:55:06.860 realm of the possible it's not the realm of the ideal but but a minister the prophet the prophet

00:55:12.260 doesn't say well you know the lord has given me a word but i'm going to go ahead and compromise that

00:55:17.320 kind of whittle away at it and give you know the best case scenario of what i think is winnable no

00:55:21.940 it's thus saith the lord this is the ideal so the minister the prophet he he says no this is the

00:55:27.480 principle unadulterated this is the standard um and then it's up to christian princes within the

00:55:34.240 civil magistrate to hear that and say how much can we get done today that's so we'll let them decide 0.99

00:55:38.780 yeah and if the word of isaiah is true that is a curse upon a nation when women bear rule

00:55:43.800 then we have to proclaim that prophetically and to brian's point you have to be able to 0.96

00:55:48.840 you know count the cost while doing so the other thing i would say is providentially

00:55:53.500 you look at everything going on in the culture right now we just had the birthright citizenship

00:55:58.140 thing people are pointing to it in the culture upheld which is it's yes it's worse than if we

00:56:03.300 never even touched it because now the precedent is rebooted but it's stronger now yes you saw

00:56:09.120 people in the mainstream showing the photos of all the female judges five of them yes exactly

00:56:14.780 of both sexes but but we're in a cultural moment where people are going wait a minute

00:56:19.080 maybe this is a bad idea and i would say right now particularly the book is launching we didn't

00:56:24.480 plan this but the lindsey clancy trial is going on yet another example and if there was not a

00:56:32.060 better example of the lunacy and i mean lunacy hysteria of women when you put them in places of

00:56:38.440 rule i mean joel you have women in pink shirts right marching and supporting a woman who strangled 0.99

00:56:46.000 her three children and it took four minutes for each child yeah and they're saying she's the

00:56:51.700 victim right and you know you know what they're like what all those women have in common they've

00:56:56.220 all had probably one to four abortions those women what they're essentially saying is you see what a 0.98

00:57:01.280 burden children are this is why it must be legal and easily accessible to kill them before their 0.98

00:57:08.420 born. And this, this is the thing people, that's what they're doing. This is the thing people miss 0.99

00:57:12.220 is that there is zero moral difference between what Lindsay Clancy did in slowly strangling 0.97

00:57:19.260 her children to death and what millions of women you walk by on the street every single day have 0.68

00:57:25.060 done. Yeah. They have murdered their own children. They are hard-hearted. They believe it was a 1.00

00:57:30.500 positive good for their lives. They are not remorseful. They don't think that they did

00:57:35.300 anything wrong you gotta actually give her some props i think lindsey should hang so please don't 0.95

00:57:40.040 take this the wrong way but uh lindsey at least felt enough guilt to try to punish herself by 1.00

00:57:45.620 jumping out of a window uh the women who've committed abortion are bragging about it no

00:57:51.580 they're boasting about it they're bragging about it and what we're talking about is that um because

00:57:56.020 one of the comebacks people say is well hey look at what male rule has done in the world you know 0.68

00:58:00.000 they're Stalins. And what we're not saying is that, man, women have sinned a lot. Men have

00:58:07.180 never, it's crazy, men have never sinned. Men have sinned in egregious and terrible ways and

00:58:12.120 have a huge body count to their massive amounts of bloodshed, massive evil doing, of course.

00:58:17.340 And yet, and yet, women have outdone all of the Pol Potts and the Stalins and the Mao's of the 1.00

00:58:25.020 world combined in their body count of hundreds of millions. And Pol Pot and Stalin had the courtesy 0.94

00:58:32.300 to let the people have some semblance of a few years of life. Maybe you were 40 when Stalin 0.58

00:58:37.420 offed you. These women are killing their children in the womb. It's a pile of dead babies, hundreds 1.00

00:58:43.260 of millions high. And this is all documented. So it's not hyperbole. It's like, I forget,

00:58:47.400 it's like 550 million or 650 million all the all the deaths combined between every major war war

00:58:55.280 that has taken place that we have historical knowledge of so throughout human history combined

00:58:59.440 so men are responsible through war um for about half a billion um women just in the last half

00:59:06.940 century not just america but but worldwide um i believe it's around it's like 1.2 to 2 billion

00:59:14.560 so is it like you see the meme it's like like this guy you know standing there with his sword

00:59:18.660 ready to find it's like men killing you know 500 600 million people and all the wars can buy

00:59:23.480 and then it's like this towering figure looking over it's like women killing 1.3 billion in the 0.87

00:59:28.320 first cover of ms magazine which was oh yeah so the demon indian goddess kali kali yeah and her

00:59:34.860 earrings are dead babies can i yeah crazy can i ask a question real quick um do you have a hard

00:59:41.320 cover for this book yeah so this book is it's premium hardcover only only hard that's the only

00:59:46.640 edition available right now sometimes here's the thing the customer's not always right

00:59:50.460 sometimes people are dumb so it's like look we have two two choices but one of them is so superior

00:59:55.840 to the other one we're going to make the choice for you you can only choose the best you're welcome 0.99

00:59:59.800 yeah it's like a custom dust jacket that's that's really uh striking you could put the we'll give

01:00:05.540 you the graphic if they want to see it and then also under the dust jacket we always do a really

01:00:10.680 well thought out gold embossed cover yeah embossed there all over and it's got a lot of details and

01:00:16.780 even some easter eggs how much that's my second so the full i believe the full price is around

01:00:21.800 30 i can't remember exactly but this is a a hardcover nice book and it's 400 pages and our

01:00:27.540 our prices are actually like irresponsibly low compared to many of our competitors who do the

01:00:33.180 same thing print their own but we really want people to be able to the other thing i would say

01:00:37.920 about the book too so it's long it's uh also intentionally well researched so you're gonna

01:00:43.960 find i think there's like over 300 footnotes footnotes and the point of this was that we

01:00:48.240 wanted people to actually go and check right yeah right so if you doubt some of the statistics or

01:00:53.160 some of the things we're saying i can't believe that america was a mostly christian white nation

01:00:57.500 just i'm pulling stuff from like u.s census bureau not yeah like i have an idea so you're

01:01:04.180 selling it for 30 bucks um we uh nxr will buy um a number of books from you guys and we're willing

01:01:12.380 to pay full price because you put the work into it but let's do this for anybody because we have

01:01:16.620 a conference coming up that you guys are going to be speaking at and i would love for the long

01:01:20.260 house to be one of the sessions i'm looking at my man eric um but i i think it has to it has to be

01:01:25.360 there um if america is to have any future um we're going to have to slay the dragon of feminism so

01:01:31.500 So that will be one of the elements 1.00

01:01:33.460 that's talked about at the conference.

01:01:34.860 And I would love if one of the two of you

01:01:36.700 talk about that.

01:01:38.360 And so, but that conference is coming up.

01:01:39.980 Both of you are going to be there.

01:01:41.140 And so it's fitting, you know,

01:01:42.020 that we're doing the show together.

01:01:43.540 But to work the book into the deal,

01:01:45.240 my thought is we could do right now,

01:01:48.280 promo code is available right now.

01:01:49.640 It just popped into my head,

01:01:50.580 but by the time the episode releases,

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01:02:04.700 then what we'll do is we'll give them 20% off.

01:02:07.300 So it's 250 is the regular rate for the conference.

01:02:11.120 We'll make it 200.

01:02:12.280 So we'll give you 20% off,

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01:02:21.020 So we'll buy the book from you guys.

01:02:22.760 Insane deal.

01:02:23.260 And then we'll ship it.

01:02:23.680 The generosity of Joel Webin.

01:02:25.280 Joel Webin is like the noblesse oblige

01:02:27.240 dripping off this man right now.

01:02:29.120 I'm drowning in it.

01:02:30.360 Like I am, I'm struggling for air.

01:02:33.720 You're too kind.

01:02:34.440 You're too kind.

01:02:35.000 All right, any final thoughts for this episode?

01:02:37.120 Just to sum it up, I think what people need to take away,

01:02:40.000 we'll go into the history,

01:02:41.420 we'll talk about specifically what it's done to the economy.

01:02:43.640 But the bottom line up front is that

01:02:46.640 not only has the Longhouse replaced 0.98

01:02:49.280 this glorious Christian patriarchal order 0.96

01:02:52.740 that built the greatest civilization ever to be,

01:02:56.780 the Christian West.

01:02:57.740 That's what built it. 0.98

01:02:58.780 it did so promising everything and it made us miserable it's it's made us miserable it's the 0.54

01:03:05.840 book especially women miserable and it's made women miserable because women are glorious when

01:03:13.540 women are women and do women things that god appointed them to do and men are glorious when

01:03:17.860 they are do men things and they're manly and they do the things god appointed man to do

01:03:21.220 but when you subvert god's order anywhere you subvert it it always brings misery yes and that's

01:03:29.100 what it's done and so i hope people read the book i hope that they hear us out even if you hate joel

01:03:33.800 you hate us uh and you just have a hatred competition some you know depending on the

01:03:37.960 day which must you do in the same way you can click and hate watch hate read you hate read

01:03:42.280 hate read yeah get that book and just just get your highlighter out and like i hate this line 0.55

01:03:48.820 really hate this chapter do it i hate it do it you enjoy it man just to have you a hate read 0.75

01:03:54.180 and and i would i would leave it too with just the call to action that both men and women like 0.58

01:03:58.820 we need to courageously confront the longhouse yes we need to be willing to do the hard thing

01:04:05.740 and and it will hurt like it will be painful personally it will be painful to everybody

01:04:10.780 who confronts it it will cost you but i'm telling you the cost is absolutely worth paying amen

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The NXR Podcast - September 02, 2026

THE SPECIAL - The Longhouse： White Men Are Cooked

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