The NXR Podcast - THE SPECIAL - Young Americans Embracing National Socialism？

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00:01:22.100 The word socialism now is actually supported by roughly about one in four Republicans.

00:01:28.280 It's now plurality supported by under 40 voters.

00:01:32.420 It beats capitalism.

00:01:34.100 It's not a majority yet.

00:01:35.580 It's not a majority, but it's getting really close.

00:01:37.820 But it is a majority for under 40.

00:01:39.700 Overall, socialism is minus six.

00:01:43.340 Trump today is minus 15.

00:01:48.500 Radical Christian nationalist pastor.

00:01:51.140 Joel Webin.

00:01:52.440 Joel Webin.

00:01:53.640 I'm going to talk about Joel Webin.

00:01:55.660 Joel Webin is an excellent.

00:01:57.340 all right welcome to another episode of the Wednesday special with NXR studios and today

00:02:21.820 i'm honored to be joined by mark mitchell you live in new jersey you are the honest pollster

00:02:27.720 on twitter x and honest polls on youtube yep and then you also have the honest pollster.com

00:02:35.660 or honest polls.com the honest poll.com and all of those urls were available because honesty is

00:02:41.680 pretty tough to play in the polling industry uh and people might know me from rasmussen reports

00:02:46.440 i was there for five years as a head pollster had a pretty big youtube channel there and a pretty

00:02:51.240 big following and you know we're looking out for the american voter basically and not political

00:02:56.180 parties and like as you know so many people in this industry are just absolute outright shills

00:03:00.960 it's really disgusting and you refuse to be that yeah good yeah you've been pretty accurate and it's

00:03:07.200 hard it's hard like it's hard to know what's actually going on because everybody it's it

00:03:12.560 the pollsters don't seem to belong to the people they belong to the political candidates so it's

00:03:17.540 Like this guy has his polling team and this guy has his polling team.

00:03:22.300 And they're always, you know, conveying something that's favorable to the guy who's paying them.

00:03:27.420 They're literally paying them.

00:03:28.580 So anyways, so we're going to do a couple episodes.

00:03:31.940 But the first one that I'd like to start with is on socialism.

00:03:35.980 And I just want to come out of the gate.

00:03:37.560 Everybody, you know, got really, really pissed off at me because they thought I was advocating for socialism.

00:03:43.260 Now, in their defense, I will concede slightly.

00:03:47.540 You know, the title of the episode that we put out a few weeks ago that went gangbusters

00:03:52.740 viral, Ted Cruz picked it up, Rand Paul picked it up, like multiple different people saying

00:03:58.160 this is terrible.

00:03:59.520 Well, the title was, you know, a bit clickbaity, I admit.

00:04:03.440 You know, we said the right.

00:04:04.720 Yeah, thank you.

00:04:05.540 We said the right.

00:04:06.600 But here's the deal.

00:04:07.560 Clickbaity, sure.

00:04:08.680 Which I don't really regret.

00:04:10.040 I think like, you know, like that's what you got to do.

00:04:14.300 The question though is, is it true?

00:04:16.240 It wasn't a lie.

00:04:17.020 like retitled it the right must embrace socialism to win now that's not a moral claim i'm not saying

00:04:24.020 a moral ought like they ought to they should uh in order to be virtuous uh what i'm saying is that

00:04:31.000 and if anybody actually watched the episode within you know three minutes they would know

00:04:35.980 that you know what i'm actually standing on but my i maintain uh that raw democracy like whatever

00:04:42.160 constitutional republic we had once upon a time i actually really like that it's just it just

00:04:46.980 doesn't exist anymore yeah there's problems yeah so we've devolved into a raw democracy none of the

00:04:51.480 founders spoke fondly of democracy especially not a raw democracy we coupled that with universal

00:04:56.080 suffrage and then we further coupled that with mass immigration from the third world and and

00:05:03.040 very quickly many of these people being able to gain voting status or even if they can't gain it

00:05:08.540 we have all these cities that have outright said uh yeah we're not going to check even for a

00:05:13.660 driver's license. So they, you know, functionally, they can go into these major cities, blue cities

00:05:18.320 and vote. So raw democracy, universal suffrage, third world immigration, many of them quickly 0.99

00:05:24.500 being able to vote in our elections. Equals does not, it's just, it's not if, it's just a matter 0.74

00:05:29.740 of when. It's inevitable that the people eventually will realize they can vote for stuff. And if

00:05:35.660 there's a two-party system and one of them is playing for keeps and says, we'll give you stuff

00:05:41.620 if you vote for us and the other one on principle says we will never give you anything to their

00:05:47.520 largest constituent their largest voter base they say here's the deal if you vote for us we promise

00:05:52.420 to pander to everyone except for you like then you're just gonna lose forever yeah so so i'm

00:05:57.900 not saying oh the right has to be socialist and we're gonna get in this episode what what actually

00:06:02.040 is socialism but i'm not even saying i wasn't even saying that really like if it was up to me

00:06:06.760 I'd say abolish universal suffrage, 50 to 100 million deportations, X, Y, and Z, so on and so forth.

00:06:13.820 And then you don't have to do that.

00:06:15.560 But if we're going to, you know, Republicans tightly holding on to democracy, universal suffrage, liberalism, egalitarianism at every single level, men and women, and, you know, all these different things,

00:06:28.600 then, yeah, you guys are not going to be able to maintain your principle of we're against socialism.

00:06:35.160 So all that being said, I thought it was also further ironic because like everybody's getting ticked off.

00:06:41.900 And yet this was right on the heels of J.D. Vance saying $9,000 per child for stay-at-home parent, you know, intact families, which I actually don't hate.

00:06:49.940 And I don't necessarily think that's socialism, but we can explore it.

00:06:52.760 Better than a $5,000 check.

00:06:54.100 And then Trump, like that one, I don't know if that's socialism, but it definitely seems like a bribe.

00:06:59.920 $5,000 if you vote and we win.

00:07:03.000 so that's the lay of the land for this episode first thing i want to ask and i'm going to give

00:07:07.880 it to you is um what is socialism uh well i mean i'm sure there are a lot of like really great

00:07:15.600 academic um explanations but the question is is that what do the american voters think when they

00:07:21.820 hear that word yeah and this is where the republicans are sort of really show their

00:07:28.180 inability to understand their own electorate. Because that's the main issue here. It isn't an

00:07:34.060 issue of ideologies. It's an issue of why these people govern and why do our political outcomes

00:07:38.460 not represent the actual voter. We live in a representative democracy. And what we're talking

00:07:43.920 about is Republicans governing to the interests of donors or governing to an ideology or governing

00:07:49.740 to something other than what Americans need or want. And what Americans need is economic relief.

00:07:57.160 more so than ever and when you say well the democrats are going to give you stuff but we

00:08:04.560 can't because that's against our ideology obviously you're not going to get votes because

00:08:08.260 people look at you and say well you're not representing me at all and certainly not younger

00:08:13.100 votes especially not younger votes but now the problem isn't just this socialism versus non-socialism

00:08:20.180 it's the entire republican disdain for what they call transactional politics and what i would

00:08:25.340 submit to you is that people voted for Trump to be transactional, not because they wanted a $5,000

00:08:32.300 check, because they wanted things like a restructuring of the economic system, a draining

00:08:37.240 of the swamp in Washington, D.C., accountability for all of the people that have manipulated our

00:08:42.520 government against the will of the American people. No new wars. Yeah. Things like, hey,

00:08:47.760 I want a wife again. Things like a job that doesn't go to Indians. So these are transactional 1.00

00:08:52.980 things that the Republicans have arguably not been able to really deliver. Like the real problem is

00:08:58.660 the Republicans haven't even been able to create the perception that they're trying to govern

00:09:04.200 towards those things. So people can argue about whether Trump's been successful in mass deportations

00:09:08.760 or whatever, but nobody looks at this administration and is confident that long-term

00:09:13.400 they're going to get those things. And so when Democrat socialists appear to be doing well in

00:09:19.800 the polls, it's because those candidates are able to convince primarily younger, less ideological

00:09:25.380 voters who don't care about the words like free market capitalism, right? That they're just looking

00:09:31.040 out for their interests. And so for a lot of these people, if they hear the word socialist,

00:09:35.280 they imagine something like Sweden, where the systems functionally work, where it's like,

00:09:40.880 because of whatever reasons we can give universal healthcare, it does work. It's not, it doesn't

00:09:46.020 destroy us um they real quick what do you think some of those reasons are uh probably a level of

00:09:54.100 nationalism an ability to have some aspect of sovereignty right uh sovereign nationalism

00:09:59.720 homogenous society like those are some of the things like the people who get help are your

00:10:06.220 people yep you feel some kind of natural bonds to them i'm helping my fellow swede um yeah

00:10:14.080 So we've had a massive uptick in favorability of socialist concepts.

00:10:20.060 And we've also had an inexorable increase recently in favorability of the word socialism.

00:10:26.560 The word socialism now is actually supported by roughly about one in four Republicans.

00:10:32.640 It's now plurality supported by under 40 voters.

00:10:36.860 It beats capitalism.

00:10:39.240 And that's big.

00:10:41.220 It's not a majority yet.

00:10:42.400 It's not a majority, but it's getting really close.

00:10:44.920 But it is a majority for under 40.

00:10:47.260 Is that what you were saying?

00:10:48.540 It's almost half.

00:10:50.060 Okay.

00:10:50.560 Overall, socialism is minus six.

00:10:54.020 Trump today is minus 15.

00:10:56.120 So socialism is actually more popular than Trump.

00:10:58.820 The word.

00:10:59.480 Wow.

00:11:00.960 Now, when you ask these people what their problems are

00:11:04.360 and what they're really trying to vote for,

00:11:06.980 it's not a lack of economic freedom.

00:11:09.160 It's actually more economic freedom.

00:11:10.940 Right. 0.67

00:11:11.100 They want to be able to afford a house.

00:11:12.400 it's not really socialism it's it's just some social program some social benefits right it's

00:11:19.280 the idea of their government actually using the taxpayer money effectively is what it ultimately

00:11:23.900 comes down to because especially the young younger people are very accountability oriented

00:11:28.160 they think that these social programs should work and uh you know they're willing to violate these

00:11:34.220 ideological norms in order to get it and what the paradigm we're in is that because they're not

00:11:40.140 representing the voter, they're representing some status quo, Republicans will call it socialism.

00:11:45.040 And some of it is and some of it isn't. But at the end of the day, nobody is advocating for a

00:11:49.300 complete lack of economic freedom. Although I did have seizing the means of production, like actually

00:11:55.220 pretty popular. So that right there. So you're right. What people perceive as being socialism

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00:13:46.040 But you just gave the technical sense.

00:13:47.860 So just for the listener, what is socialism, truly, objectively?

00:13:51.060 so it is a program where the workers and the government control the means of production in a

00:13:59.500 society and it's actually people are starting to get more comfortable with that but as opposed to

00:14:04.780 capital owning and and benefiting from the profits of these systems right so right and so you're

00:14:11.380 saying in terms of not the perception but but actual objective socialism workers and government

00:14:18.040 instead of just corporations right so workers right now we have not really socialism we have

00:14:23.260 corporatism we have like crony capitalism capitalism gone gone wild um at multiple levels

00:14:30.120 where you know the the owner of a corporation has a hundred x you know financial benefits to

00:14:35.820 anybody who's employed and actually is producing you know the goods and services that that company

00:14:40.500 provides but in addition to that one of the big problems we have is like people say meritocracy

00:14:45.540 which is a very american thing you know but meritocracies are great um when they're confined

00:14:51.420 to the family so like if i think of like my kids i give this analogy a lot but i've got five kids

00:14:56.580 six kids on the way um all of them get fed right all of them get dinner all of them get clothed

00:15:02.320 all of them get you know a roof over their head those kinds of things fatherly provision for all

00:15:07.260 my kids and i love them all equally um that said you know sometimes i have to strive to love a

00:15:12.200 particular kid more in a particular season. But I love all my kids equally. They all are provided

00:15:16.760 for. But there may be some household privileges where, based on behavior, one of the kids who

00:15:23.040 does really well this week with homeschool with mom and is obedient, blah, blah, blah, gets X, Y,

00:15:27.600 and Z. There's nothing wrong with that. That's meritocracy. But if I put out flyers to the whole

00:15:32.920 neighborhood and said, any kid in the neighborhood who does X, Y, and Z the best will get this

00:15:40.080 reward and i'm like giving johnny who lives catty corner down the street um some kind of cash prize

00:15:46.740 and not my children and that's the kind of meritocracy we have now we are forcing the

00:15:52.120 native citizens of our country to compete with 8.2 billion people for their own inheritance what 0.81

00:15:58.600 their fathers right their own fathers we we know who they did it for us and our posterity and we're

00:16:04.680 saying actually that inheritance that the founders bled and sweat and died for it's actually on the

00:16:10.780 free market up for grabs and a a no holds bar contest global contest and anybody can compete

00:16:17.460 for it and if india uh out competes then the inheritance of george washington belongs to them

00:16:22.460 i think that's wicked so a lot of there there's a lot of offsets and confusing situations here

00:16:28.880 that are overlapping and competing so you have a situation where again socialism as a word is

00:16:36.140 increasingly popular but capitalism still wins people want the benefits of a capitalistic system

00:16:41.700 economic freedom a home a future but they're increasingly interested in exploring socialist

00:16:48.380 ideas seizing the means of production while they probably don't understand the ramifications

00:16:52.840 and wealth taxes that are now overwhelmingly like three to one very popular and this is in my

00:16:59.700 opinion more of a reaction to the current economic stress that everybody has and and the part that

00:17:05.540 they're that i think is really driving it is a mistrust in institutions and blowback against

00:17:11.780 corporate overreach and like like you said the the corporate oligarchy the corporatism

00:17:15.800 so now what's what's weird and nuanced about it is that the younger people while they absolutely

00:17:20.920 are being predated by this mass immigration, they don't really understand that as much as

00:17:26.620 the older people. So the older people are like, yep, get all these illegals out. The younger 0.64

00:17:31.080 people are like more willing to say that ICE has overstepped and more protective of things like

00:17:37.580 the H-1B program. If you ask about it separately, they're like, oh sure, we should bring talented

00:17:44.980 people here. But then if you ask them if corporations are abusing it, that's where you

00:17:48.620 see the signal. And so overwhelmingly, people think that corporations have overstepped and

00:17:55.440 need to be reined in. That was about a 75% position, I think, that drastic antitrust

00:18:02.740 behavior will lower the price of things. That's over 70%. Trust in the federal government is

00:18:08.280 25% to 30%. Trust in major corporations, many pollsters have very low readings. And so the

00:18:16.120 problem is that you have this republican party that will say we can't do anything for you that's

00:18:20.660 socialist and at the same time they're representing this interest of a very unpopular group that

00:18:25.320 neither establishment is willing to say is creating this economic stress that the younger people have

00:18:31.180 right yes that's been my problem is that the republicans if it was genuine if it was real if

00:18:37.400 it was honest then all right no harm no foul and and in fact it'd actually be respectable um like

00:18:43.480 we can't do anything for you by virtue of moral principle yep um but but we're not talking about

00:18:50.640 whether there'll be social benefits which may or may not be true you know bona fide socialism

00:18:56.800 we're not talking about whether we're talking about which so like every young conservative

00:19:01.880 voter knows um well when the republican party says we can't do that that's socialism um but

00:19:09.000 but they are doing that just for everyone except for us i say i say that a lot democrats are

00:19:14.840 socialism for poor people republicans are socialists for the ceo so the wealthy and for

00:19:20.180 israel basically yeah exactly like so ted cruz like retweeted my episode of like the right must

00:19:25.740 embrace socialism to win again not a moral claim not saying like and we must do this in order to

00:19:31.680 be pleasing to the lord or we must do this in order to be biblical that wasn't the claim i'm

00:19:36.140 saying we must do this in order to win assuming right the whole political landscape that we

00:19:40.680 currently have that i think is immoral that's wrong right c.a raw democracy universal suffrage

00:19:47.440 importing the entire world you know all that um but ted cruz you know retweeted like this is

00:19:53.260 terrible and blah blah blah and i you know commented and said like ted cruz tel aviv ted

00:19:58.000 is perfectly fine with uh socialism uh as long as it's for israel yeah so like he's fine with

00:20:04.300 taxing americans to give handouts to people like if if that's what we're saying is socialism which

00:20:10.060 i understand in the technical sense it's not but that's but that's what we're talking about we're

00:20:14.120 talking about wealth redistribution we're talking about taxing one set of people and helping out

00:20:18.920 another set of people republicans are fine with that they're fine with that so long as it's um

00:20:24.480 ceos owners of major corporations israel nation states um h1b workers like that they're totally

00:20:33.060 fine with it so democrats are going to do it for blacks hispanics latinos you know and and then you

00:20:39.000 know uh republicans are going to do it for israel and jewish lobbies a party part it's a party so

00:20:44.800 it's not whether but which captured by donnerbucks right and all i'm saying is you know what i'd like

00:20:49.360 to get rid of this whole system that makes it to where you basically have to give free stuff in

00:20:54.680 order to get the voters to turn out i'd like to get rid of that altogether but while we're here

00:20:59.440 in the meantime um what are we like what like why are republicans so dead set because they're not

00:21:06.780 on principle we will not give free stuff to someone on prince the only principle that they

00:21:12.460 hold is we will never give free stuff to mother and father intact families with children that

00:21:18.720 happen to be christian and white yeah so really that's the principle the republican principle 0.99

00:21:23.500 is not we won't give free stuff the republican principle is um you're white and i hate you 0.99

00:21:29.440 That's the principle. 0.97

00:21:31.080 That's what a lot of people feel.

00:21:32.460 I can't see it any other way.

00:21:34.040 It's certainly not we're putting the interests of American voters who we're supposed to represent first.

00:21:39.100 And that's a problem because there was some nuance and understanding early in the 1800s that capitalism actually was supposed to represent the common good of the American people.

00:21:50.080 And that if it didn't, it was a failing system, right?

00:21:52.300 And so they set everything up.

00:21:54.000 And obviously what they did then was different than what we would obviously need now.

00:21:57.600 But what we're, I think, seeing is a captured party that is using status quo maintenance techniques in order to prevent really any change.

00:22:05.580 And this is after a broadly popular economic populist president got elected on economic change.

00:22:12.020 Like that's really what it was.

00:22:14.020 And he wasn't able to maintain the plot.

00:22:17.240 I mean, it was within a month of being elected when he was whining and dining Mark Zuckerberg, who just three years prior, he had been accusing of stealing his own election through the Zuckerbucks.

00:22:25.500 And so one of the things I said, I was invited to the White House back in November, and this is really things started going off the tracks, March, April, May of 2025.

00:22:36.880 But the messaging out of the Trump administration was completely schizophrenic.

00:22:40.660 He was attacking people over the Epstein stuff.

00:22:43.000 He was undermining the whole affordability hoax thing.

00:22:48.820 You know, we don't have talented American workers because he was trying to support.

00:22:52.800 That was terrible.

00:22:53.360 Yeah, all the terrible messaging completely undermining his 2024 platform.

00:22:58.540 One of the things I said to him that Susie actually thought was smart and wrote down was that you have to smash the oligarchy and not be the oligarchy.

00:23:05.600 And that really does represent.

00:23:06.580 You said that to Trump?

00:23:07.480 I said it to Trump.

00:23:09.140 Susie was like, oh, that's smart.

00:23:10.480 She wrote it down.

00:23:11.660 And quite clearly, this is a presidency that has been unable to separate itself from, he looks like a plutocrat.

00:23:18.080 He really does. And all of the things he comes out and says, talking about the Dow Jones hitting

00:23:22.860 50,000, when again, Americans can't afford to eat. And it's like talking, conflating the

00:23:28.520 affordability price into a discussion about burritos or eggs. When in reality, it's like,

00:23:33.780 no, the average American family pays something like 15,000 a year for health insurance and can't

00:23:37.600 even afford to use it. So structurally, these people, what we're dealing with is a post COVID

00:23:43.240 economic crisis. And this is the part that makes me so mad because if the Republicans were interested

00:23:48.660 in representing the people, they would be looking at things besides the typical economic measures

00:23:53.700 of like GDP in the stock market. And we have a horrifying case-shaped recovery after COVID where

00:24:00.520 the larger corporations are doing better. They got tons of bailout money. The asset prices are

00:24:05.300 going up because of inflation. And yet wages have been suppressed. We're still bringing in foreign

00:24:10.220 workers um all these small businesses were shut down um and the cost of everything is going up

00:24:16.720 people can't afford to keep and this is not reflected in the cpi this is structurally the

00:24:22.160 cost of everything and you you haven't heard either the republican or the democrat party

00:24:26.820 really talk about workers like raising wages jd has but this is not broadly a republican problem

00:24:33.380 and this is the solution to the affordability problem we have it's very easy yeah i was going

00:24:39.120 to ask you, you're good. I feel like you're good on polls, but you're also just good with like

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00:25:48.040 what i mean it's kind of too late for 2026 but 2028 what kind of platform on on the economic

00:25:55.600 stuff do Republicans need to run on to even have a chance? I mean, I think this is quite clearly

00:26:00.900 the same stuff that we were dealing with when Teddy Roosevelt was president. We have an oligarchy

00:26:05.900 of very wealthy people. We have a whole lot of other people who are struggling. And back then

00:26:10.360 they were smart enough to know, like there were popular songs that people wrote about breaking

00:26:14.160 up monopolies. And this was not, and here, unfortunately, one of the very best people

00:26:19.640 in the Trump administration was the first person fired and that's Gail Slater at antitrust. And

00:26:24.260 because she had the cardinal sin

00:26:27.740 of actually going after some non-competitive environments. 0.59

00:26:32.660 They were trying to break these things up.

00:26:34.140 And obviously, the lobbyist money got to her really fast.

00:26:38.740 And so he wanted Americans to have a square deal.

00:26:42.100 He was pro-worker.

00:26:43.400 There was an economic progressive movement.

00:26:45.380 They were like unions were getting stronger

00:26:47.320 because there were excesses of capitalism

00:26:49.820 and bad working environments.

00:26:51.740 and you know like amazon like having i remember like it was a big thing like not being able to

00:26:57.620 even use the bathroom yeah they're like peeing in bottles well like even the idea that it's smart

00:27:03.240 that like 70 of our e-commerce runs through one corporation that is actively enabling the

00:27:08.940 offshoring of all of our manufacturing yeah like that's probably something that we should do

00:27:13.160 something about and you know because you look at it and say okay well the people are getting a lot

00:27:18.220 of cheap stuff. And we definitely had more cheap stuff than we had in the 80s. But at the same

00:27:22.480 time, my parents' teacher income did a lot better in the economy, right? And that's because there

00:27:28.140 were still manufacturing jobs here, wages were higher, and they hadn't been systematically

00:27:32.300 suppressed by decades of offshoring that was done by both Republicans and Democrats and the

00:27:37.300 inshoring, obviously, right? But again, there's absolutely no appetite on the right to address

00:27:44.220 these things at all right there why just are you saying it sounds like you're saying the reason why

00:27:49.060 is not because the people on the right don't have a desire for these things but because the right

00:27:54.160 doesn't listen to the people they listen to donor bucks yeah donor bucks donor bucks socialism for

00:27:59.640 israel and the ceos so again so you would agree with my assessment it's not it's not whether but

00:28:05.180 which which kind of socialism are we going to get the socialism for poor people democrat ticket

00:28:10.600 socialism for you know the corporations in israel republican ticket because i see it like when we

00:28:16.520 did that episode and there was the backlash and all that i saw that as like incredibly hypocritical

00:28:21.660 what do you think yeah a hundred percent we will not we would the republican party would rather

00:28:28.960 see this country burned down and an uprising of the youth than to endanger corporate profits

00:28:34.660 because corporate profits are a record high right now worker share of national income is like at a

00:28:39.600 decades multi-decades low uh the one percent i think own more wealth than they ever like ever

00:28:45.560 had in the history of however long that time series exists and so all these metrics are

00:28:50.480 screaming terrible and yet they're trying to win a midterm on we actually have achieved the golden

00:28:55.140 age because look at the fact that we got a three three percent gdp print and so that's like it's

00:29:01.340 funny kind of evil it's really evil it's funny the whole maga thing like make america great again

00:29:06.100 you know originally the question was like uh make it great again for who like when was you know that

00:29:12.840 was the counter like when was when was america great for black people or when was america great

00:29:17.620 for you know fill in the blank um and that was always i i feel like just a psyop you know it was

00:29:24.340 just you know leftist propaganda but now like i'm sitting here as someone who's voted for trump

00:29:28.860 multiple times and i'm thinking not so much like when was america great for so and so i'm i'm going

00:29:34.900 back to that original slogan and thinking make america great and not not who is it great for in

00:29:40.780 the past but who did trump mean it would become great for in the present yeah because because

00:29:46.100 here we are in the year of our lord 2026 and it's not that trump's saying hey you know what yeah

00:29:51.620 there's more work to trump it's like it seems like his main message that he's signaling is um

00:29:56.280 we did it you know it's patrick and a spongebob running through bikini bottom like we saved the

00:30:01.200 city we did it patrick you know like the golden age is here and i'm like golden like america is

00:30:05.640 great because trump would literally say america is great we made it great we succeeded and i'd

00:30:10.280 be like great for who i don't even think biden gaslit people that bad yeah this is in 2016 was

00:30:16.680 a very diverse coalition of people who are like oh this is new interesting i'm curious there was

00:30:22.060 you know a lot of black people a lot of young people a lot of democrats hispanic men a lot of

00:30:27.740 Yeah. And then 2024 was even more diverse, but I would say it was less driven by Trump's

00:30:33.320 personality and curiosity and more out of desperation and incumbency blowback after

00:30:37.940 the Biden administration. And now MAGA is probably the least diverse it's ever been.

00:30:43.600 It's basically, you know, like white Fox boomer neocons essentially. And anybody who's profiting

00:30:49.700 off the Trump administration most likely. Right. I mean, just the, this is going to probably go

00:30:55.040 down in the records is one of the biggest shifts in independent voters just in a two-year period

00:30:59.220 because depending on the poll we had trump tied with uh or winning in some independence in 2024

00:31:06.180 in the fall of 24 and he's like underwater 30 points i mean this is just an absolute collapse

00:31:11.920 underwater 30 points with independence yeah he he won in two years he went from basically like just

00:31:18.160 like gridlock neutral yeah negative 30 and this isn't some like iran war like blowback this was

00:31:24.860 the entire time like this is a response to doge dying and the one big beautiful bill and iran

00:31:30.780 and that's what's what's interesting to me this one is fascinating definitely epstein uh i think

00:31:37.160 he lost 10 points independent support right there and he was warned like we gave him polls ahead of

00:31:41.940 time before he attacked his followers that's going to go down as a that's going to be one of

00:31:46.900 the most saved screenshotted true social posts of the entire trump movement in my opinion but

00:31:52.040 they're still talking about epstein that was like he handed them the the noose to hang him

00:31:59.000 in the 120th congress a hundred percent uh but my question is like is it just because 0.99

00:32:05.440 he's angry and doesn't care or he's stupid i don't think he's stupid um or is it like i've 0.99

00:32:12.000 been saying for a while now and i think i think you agree with this and i said it before i was 0.99

00:32:15.800 turned on to you and the things that you're doing so like this was just my own assessment but i've

00:32:20.380 been saying it for months you know the truman show uh back in the day you know jim carrey and

00:32:25.340 it's like his whole life is syndicated it's not real it's like everybody has like built they've

00:32:31.240 syndicated a pseudo reality around him um and i just felt like that's that's what very quickly

00:32:38.220 happened with trump i feel like very quickly into the second term within like six to maybe maybe six

00:32:44.900 to nine months maybe six to twelve faster than that faster okay so like maybe three to six months

00:32:49.360 that um basically all the good voices got axed yep and all these voices that very much pro-israel

00:32:59.240 very much like um they began and they only showed him what what he yeah what not even what he wanted

00:33:06.480 to see what they wanted him to see like you're seeing him says you're a hundred percent in the

00:33:11.620 polls among maga you know or you're the uh 99 approval in america israel you know and he's

00:33:18.040 bragging about it and so they just kind of like syndicated this pseudo reality around trump 0.92

00:33:22.800 and i think i'm under the impression that now he actually has gotten wise and realizes oh crap

00:33:28.560 like uh i think it's not favorable but now he's kind of stuck i i think it's a symbiotic

00:33:35.400 relationship to be honest with you so so he he bears more blame and i'm not an insider but i've

00:33:40.720 observed enough and talked to people who have seen things. And what, if I were to try to

00:33:46.680 summarize what I think happened is that there was the first Trump administration, nobody expected

00:33:51.560 him to win. He came in, he had to staff his administration. He got a lot of disparate voices.

00:33:56.020 There was a lot of mistrust, but there was a healthy checks and balances system within the

00:34:00.200 White House. There were people there that had plans. Like he had Steve Bannon, who was like

00:34:05.380 forcing the White House to do some very proactive and effective things. There was a lot of shakeups

00:34:10.040 and churn. And these were things that allowed them to stay above the, at the time, relatively

00:34:16.120 low bar. And so the economic policies of the Trump administration were starting to work up until the

00:34:22.120 COVID situation. Now this one, I think Mar-a-Lago was just stormed with a bunch of Trump sycophants

00:34:28.940 who had a lot of money or a lot of influence or people who wanted certain folks elevated in his

00:34:33.760 new administration without getting you you know um suicided uh can you name so like who are some

00:34:41.080 of these people i always think paypal mafia i think of david sacks or you know like the people

00:34:46.280 like that like and and again i'm sure i know a lot of people that love pete hegseth and i think

00:34:51.460 he's perfect but at the end of the day it's like trump has strong ties with rupert murdoch and

00:34:56.000 this is a fox news employee it's like those kind of situations again i'm not saying nefarious i'm

00:35:00.400 just saying it's a very different environment right yeah and at the same time there were other

00:35:04.480 people who were planning for this administration project 2025 elon musk assembling doge and these

00:35:11.820 were all people that it was useful for trump to have on the campaign helped build the coalition

00:35:16.500 you know reaching out to the joe rogan voter uh all the stuff that elon was doing and how popular

00:35:22.100 he was on twitter but then he asked project 2025 still on the campaign trail before coming into

00:35:27.720 office who are the big guys so my understanding was is that it was still going and that they a lot

00:35:33.800 of the first batch of executive orders were still coming from project 2025 and that they were still

00:35:40.300 trying to get some of the people that had been identified through that project into the the trump

00:35:45.220 administration and that there was a um a power struggle early in the term in maybe the february

00:35:52.060 march time frame where america first policy institute took over and uh and it was basically

00:35:58.420 axed by susie wiles to get whatever remained of 2025 out of the white house so there was real

00:36:03.320 quick so who were the big the big engineers the big people behind when you say project 2025

00:36:08.100 people yeah i think it was like paul dan's leading the project under heritage and heritage is moving

00:36:14.180 in the right direction in my opinion from all outside signs it's like one of the few washington

00:36:19.040 based economic oriented think tanks that actually talks like kevin roberts actually said the word

00:36:25.320 oligarchy at infest like that's that's a big deal for somebody in washington like that's

00:36:30.320 a really big deal but susie wiles was the main she seems off and i've heard the name kushner too

00:36:37.000 but like there was an aspect essentially of we're not in control of what's happening elon's out

00:36:42.580 there saying all this stuff we're trying to get the one big beautiful bill here and there's and

00:36:47.700 Trump's being drawn in too many directions. And I think it was an effort to tighten up

00:36:53.160 who had influence over Trump. And Project 2025 went away. Elon Musk got in the big fight. And

00:37:01.940 I think that was over. Republicans were trying to get their pork bill through. Trump wanted a

00:37:07.020 legislative win. I'm sure he had Lindsey Graham whispering in his ear about how great it was.

00:37:11.960 uh and then and then by june we're bombing iran right and so what was fascinating to me about

00:37:19.220 that whole time period is that trump's uh approval rating stayed broadly positive

00:37:25.140 all the way until really about the beginning of july and there had been last year of 2025

00:37:32.140 there had been a lot of chaos there had been liberation day and a crashing stock market

00:37:36.820 and the fight with elon right and so people still were sticking through trump but what

00:37:42.020 one of my favorite time series and you gov puts this out and it's like okay are they the best

00:37:46.820 pollster no but data is data right and and this is good data and it's the are is the economy

00:37:52.200 getting better or worse question which i think tells the entire story of the last 10 years of

00:37:56.500 politics so going into before covid the response uh to is the economy getting better worse getting

00:38:04.880 worse and getting better were roughly tied in the 20s to 30s so there was a state of you could not

00:38:12.480 complacency but balance right um malaise right covid hits and immediately economy getting worse

00:38:19.720 jumps into the 60s and it has stayed there the entire time since covid except for two situations

00:38:28.240 one was the biden inauguration the other was the trump inauguration so you see this line at 60 it

00:38:33.980 dips down for like six or seven months comes back up the same thing happened with trump so

00:38:39.480 what happened with biden you can deconstruct the people thought he was going to come in and fix

00:38:45.380 everything and some of it wasn't yet the economy was that bad it was just people were upset and

00:38:51.900 things were getting out of control right and by about the time of afghanistan everybody's like no

00:38:56.940 this guy's cooked it's not gonna do it he's not the guy the same thing happened with trump and

00:39:02.800 it was very stark like we're talking about a jump from 60 down to almost 30 again and then back up

00:39:08.360 to 60 so people had a lot of hope that trump was going to come in and actually do something to

00:39:12.960 change the economic system he ran on retribution and golden ages these are very strong words

00:39:17.220 and really by the summer that number right back up so before the generic ballot really turned

00:39:23.260 unwinnable for republicans before trump's approval rating turned bad before like all these things it

00:39:29.820 was before that the economic assessment of trump's term failing preceded that and

00:39:38.060 i mean that seems like the number one thing that drives voters is like do i feel like i can afford

00:39:45.200 to live yep and when he was saying there's no affordability uh it's a hoax like people are

00:39:51.420 like that that's it it's not my president anymore now it took a long time for that to percolate

00:39:56.300 through to people's opinions changing but that is very clearly like what happened is that people

00:40:01.920 like this guy's not going to challenge the economic system in the way we want him to

00:40:05.500 and it's like yeah he's like hugging mark zuckerberg and is sitting down with bill gates

00:40:10.260 like what do you what do you expect right so um so what kind of platform 2028 what what are the

00:40:16.640 on the economic side of of the equation what is the uh what is the republican candidate going to

00:40:24.880 have to message it's it's not hard it's it's people are going to default to voting for folks

00:40:33.420 who say they're socialists unless the republicans can come up with an alternative that sounds better

00:40:38.860 than we tried everything now we're just going to raid the treasury and give you free stuff right

00:40:42.700 like what is the republican alternative and i've been screaming for this for one or two years and

00:40:47.140 in fact i said it to trump too if you want to win the midterms you can't tell people spike the

00:40:52.840 football that you already got to the golden age you have to show them a golden path which means

00:40:56.640 that believably if i vote for republicans 10 years into the future under republican governance

00:41:02.400 what have you done specifically to make me confident that my economic situation will be

00:41:09.300 improved none of the things they talk about at all build that confidence they literally will

00:41:15.420 just attack socialism they've presented no fixes for anything and a good example is the health care

00:41:20.820 situation, right? So the Democrats have a solution for healthcare. It's single payer and people are

00:41:26.120 desperate over healthcare. It's strangling, it's causing a lot of our government debt,

00:41:30.500 probably 10, 20 trillion of our debt is from healthcare, right? And we're just at about

00:41:35.020 single payer and almost there. Like it could be one Democrat presidency way. It just depends on

00:41:42.140 how corrupt the establishment Democrats are. So what is the Republican solution? Well, you can't

00:41:47.740 vote for democrats there's socialism and it's people like i can't afford health care so i will

00:41:52.180 vote for socialism so the republican solution is donald trump lowered pharmaceutical prices well

00:41:58.440 he lowered them 10 pharmaceutical prices are like 10 so he lowered health care prices one percent

00:42:05.120 so that's great i guess it's good optics but it hasn't actually changed economically

00:42:10.360 fundamentally the the systems that americans are dealing with and everybody knows that right

00:42:15.820 And then the only, I've talked to legislature, legislators, the only solution I've heard is

00:42:20.920 this one guy, Eric Berlinson, nice guy, but he's, and he believed it.

00:42:24.140 He's like, we just need another HSA program.

00:42:26.880 And it's like, okay, we're, we're keeping the healthcare system and just getting bankers

00:42:30.960 involved, right?

00:42:31.540 Like, so realistically, you would need to end regulatory capture.

00:42:36.040 You would probably actually need to nationalize certain aspects of the healthcare industry.

00:42:40.000 you'd completely have to change probably how like venture capitalists do drug discovery some of this

00:42:46.080 thing some of these things would have to be funded by the government probably uh you'd probably have

00:42:50.740 to like brutally lay off an entire layer of hospital management all across like take away

00:42:56.120 the economic incentive that allows them to build an administrative layer that shouldn't exist and

00:43:01.520 there would be economic turmoil and obviously the reason the republicans won't do that is because of

00:43:05.800 the corporate capture because the donor bucks that want to maintain an economic status quo

00:43:09.460 so the republicans will talk bad about how terrible socialism is while literally maintaining

00:43:16.460 the status quo that is leading us to the socialism wow and so if you're going to win in 2028 you have

00:43:23.160 to have answers to these solutions which means you have to address the fact that republicans

00:43:28.300 have been at least somewhat complicit in the failure of the system right and so if you're

00:43:33.100 going to say and again i think i think the word is wages if you're going to say we stand for the

00:43:38.560 worker and where you want to raise your wages then you're probably going to have to like answer

00:43:44.020 well corporate profits are an all-time high like what do we do about that and is that a problem

00:43:49.040 and whoever whatever candidate is going to win on that platform is going to have to be very

00:43:54.800 courageous because they're they're bucking the entire republican establishment who wants to

00:43:58.760 maintain these corporate profits wow do you think republicans will will win in 2028 presidential

00:44:06.880 election? I think it's possible subject to certain caveats. And I'm a numbers guy. This

00:44:11.740 is based on polling. And JD has been the polling front runner for the 2028 primary ever since he

00:44:20.540 got nominated, way more than Trump was leading DeSantis by in the spring of 2022. So he is the

00:44:27.300 guy so far. Does that mean we can't have an outsider? I don't know, but he is the guy so far.

00:44:32.180 in the summer of 2025 i did match-ups and trump was still broadly popular then jd beat everybody

00:44:40.660 by a few points except for bernie sanders which i think is an important point there like yeah

00:44:47.600 that's everything that we're talking about yeah they and bernie sanders and jd sound very similar

00:44:52.880 on most economic issues they really do and and we talked about bernie sanders partially seeding

00:45:00.040 trump's 2020 or 2016 movement like a lot of those people were disaffected bernie bros

00:45:04.600 um so it's not a surprise all of a sudden right like this this has been coming for 10 years

00:45:10.340 um so now he's losing those matchups but it's by a few points and it's because the democrat

00:45:16.460 um slate of candidates is just not that great it just really isn't yeah now there's people like

00:45:22.240 john ossoff who could run and sound like trump and are charismatic and could literally just

00:45:27.240 copy his 2024 platform and if and they would they could really be dangerous if they got rid of the 0.99

00:45:32.780 tranny stuff got rid of the defund the police stuff and said you know what we went a little 0.99

00:45:37.720 too far with the border a lot that people will believe them more than the republicans that they

00:45:43.140 are going to be economic populist they could literally just steal trump's 2024 platform but

00:45:47.160 he's still pulling in the single digits and quite frankly what will happen is the democrats will

00:45:52.320 pick a candidate based on like backroom power dynamics right so three or four points behind

00:45:59.260 could make it up with fundraising and good campaigning and really good debate performance

00:46:03.580 jd debates well who who's pulling the highest with the dims right now it's kamala harris still 1.00

00:46:09.740 still more than newsom more than yep do you think that are they that stupid would they run her again 0.99

00:46:16.360 no they're not gonna run her no but she's the front runner so she had four billion dollars 0.99

00:46:23.380 of like advertising name id right so that's they the democrats are very susceptible to training

00:46:30.600 and if overnight it shifts to somebody else they will vote for who they're told to basically right 0.84

00:46:35.660 and they're they're susceptible to also bad candidates like kamala lost because she was a

00:46:41.060 bad candidate and because she was attached to the Biden administration. And so the problem with

00:46:46.580 2028 that is hard to predict is that there are two major problems that JD is going to continue to

00:46:51.760 have that have to be resolved in a positive manner before he has a chance to win. And that's the

00:46:59.660 Trump problem and the Israel problem. And so the Trump problem is, I think it's fair to say at this

00:47:09.100 point. Mathematically, it's almost certain that the Democrats win the House unless there's the

00:47:13.520 world's biggest polling miss or Republicans steal it or somebody nukes Manhattan, right? Like that's

00:47:19.560 really, it's almost that mathematically certain, which means that Trump's legislative agenda is

00:47:24.080 dead and it's just going to be them ripping apart his administration with anti-fraud

00:47:28.560 investigations in Congress. And people are still talking about the Senate. Like, I don't think it

00:47:34.660 matters that much. I really don't. I mean, you want to defend the Senate for 2028, but

00:47:37.900 it all comes out of the house and he is entering this midterm with a lower approval rating than

00:47:44.440 george w bush did in 2006 by a few points and george w bush took almost a 10 net uh approval

00:47:51.740 point hit after the midterms so in a very short order trump could be in the mid to low 30s which

00:47:57.560 would just be catastrophic for his political capital and i don't know if he's in a situation

00:48:03.720 where he'll manage that well,

00:48:05.220 which could create a major problem from JD for JD

00:48:08.420 because he needs to still get the people,

00:48:11.640 the 20% of America that just will always love Trump.

00:48:15.160 And he also needs to somehow convince the other people

00:48:18.540 that are mad at Trump now that he won't be like Trump.

00:48:21.800 Yeah, exactly.

00:48:22.260 That's what I've been saying is it seems very improbable to me,

00:48:26.400 depending, again, the caveat is who the Dems run.

00:48:28.980 If they run someone terrible, then that can make JD win

00:48:32.820 just because the alternative is a joke.

00:48:35.740 But aside from that,

00:48:37.960 JD, basically, he's at a fork in the road

00:48:40.000 where he has to counter Trump.

00:48:44.180 Now, granted, you can walk the tightrope

00:48:46.220 and you can try to do that in nuanced, careful ways.

00:48:49.640 But still, the message is the same.

00:48:51.400 He either has to counter Trump and say,

00:48:53.440 yep, Trump did not keep his promises.

00:48:55.880 This wasn't great.

00:48:56.720 And I won't be like that.

00:48:58.120 In which case,

00:48:59.180 Trump doesn't quietly ride off into the sunset.

00:49:01.680 that's not who trump is trump will be dropping nukes on true social saying jd was never actually

00:49:08.520 mega and he's a traitor and blah blah blah and he'll be like surfacing old clips from jd where

00:49:13.760 you know he'll vote for evan mccullin or whatever and so then trump will take whatever guys are

00:49:18.780 still loyal to him and they'll always be those guys who are just they're just trump sycophants

00:49:23.660 you know and uh so then he'll take that away from jd's base and what remains uh will probably

00:49:30.320 it definitely won't be the broad coalition that trump had in 2024 and arguably depending on who

00:49:35.340 the dems run won't be enough to win the other side of the equation is jd just kowtows and just echoes

00:49:40.600 trump and uh trump was great and he did make america great again and i'm going to keep it great

00:49:46.540 in which case with trump being so low in the polls and everybody having this disdain for him

00:49:52.040 and then they're gonna say oh so your campaign is more trump f you you know and so the way i see it

00:49:58.180 is if trump doesn't unless he pulls a rabbit out of his hat you know unless the plan trusters end

00:50:04.580 up being right and he's playing 17d chess and somehow in the next two years he's able to to

00:50:10.100 get everyone back on his side uh which i do not think is going to happen then i see it as like

00:50:16.240 jd is dead in the water and the only thing that that uh salvages you know gives him a chance 0.88

00:50:21.260 is if the democrats run you know somebody who's retarded like kamala well this gets back to our 0.92

00:50:27.380 discussion about the administration being co-opted and with what essentially they created is an 0.87

00:50:33.560 influence bubble around trump where he still is making all the decisions but who's he around he's

00:50:38.940 around you know zionists and billionaires he's making the decisions but with syndicated intel

00:50:44.900 well yeah but there also there's no like underlying plan like my understanding that there exists

00:50:51.320 somewhere some golden age plan of things that we're going to do a b and c in sequence like

00:50:56.480 that does not exist and essentially again legislative agenda is dead and not only that

00:51:02.660 like the appetite to sort of go that extra level of effort in order to turn the current situation

00:51:09.540 into something that looks like a success is also not there like my understanding is that the morale

00:51:14.180 is kind of low in the white house right now and everybody's just waiting to get slugged by this

00:51:17.540 at which point they're just going to hunker down and try and outlast congress now like that doesn't

00:51:24.420 mean that trump can't work with jd to try and figure out the best possible plan that they you

00:51:29.620 know trump i think still intends to endorse him he jd still kind of needs that endorsement but

00:51:35.800 the real problem like you said is that he's got to have a better campaign slogan in 2028 than this

00:51:40.060 time we mean it it's not gonna work right um but he is also the one that is broadly capable of

00:51:47.500 speaking about economic populism convincing younger and independent people like his poll

00:51:51.300 numbers have done much better than Trump's. Like he's negative 10 Trump's negative 20 in most

00:51:55.720 polls. Uh, and that's because he's a lot more trustworthy. A lot of this mud hasn't splattered

00:52:01.720 on him. So again, I'm not saying it's like impossible that he couldn't navigate that

00:52:08.900 intelligently to set himself up as well as possible for 2028. But then you have the Trump problem who

00:52:14.740 is, what's he going to do? How, what, what, what's his legacy going to look like? Trump,

00:52:19.780 the kingmaker with his 400 million dollar Miriam Adelson pack in Mar-a-Lago making everybody bounce

00:52:24.360 grape for endorsements that's not going to go over well and that's probably what he expects

00:52:28.960 and then there's the Israel problem which is basically you have the the most bountiful and

00:52:37.940 easiest money for a republican politician to get is APAC and pro-Israel money and that money in my

00:52:44.040 opinion is okay with losing as long as it maintains its power hold over the republican party meaning

00:52:51.080 that if jd is the nominee and he doesn't signal on unfettered loyalty for israel then they don't

00:52:59.200 give him backing if he doesn't get the backing yeah because they would rather just even a dim

00:53:03.480 dim who's not fond of israel they would rather they'd rather just lose he doesn't get the money

00:53:09.500 maybe the money goes to somebody else maybe they actually do run rubio against him

00:53:13.580 they probably would i feel like they would run rubio against jd with every fiber of its being

00:53:20.420 in my opinion the establishment party wants rubio to run yes and i don't think he'll win

00:53:25.120 you don't think he'll run win oh yeah i don't think he'll win but would he run uh if jd if jd

00:53:32.000 doesn't certainly yes yeah if jd does like i don't know like who knows what they'll do with it but

00:53:38.580 the JD is not going to get that $300 million check though. Like, I mean, that's the problem

00:53:43.940 is that going back to October 29th of last year, JD had that turning point USA event. And I was

00:53:50.400 very optimistic about it because he said so far, a lot of things very courageously that most

00:53:55.920 Republican establishment politicians will not have said, like, I'm trying to convert my Hindu

00:54:00.940 wife to Catholicism. That's actually a big deal. Like for him to say that you shouldn't want to

00:54:06.520 be able to live around people who share your values also something that is nails on chalkboard

00:54:12.020 to the republican orthodoxy and he also said that this president is not controlled by israel

00:54:16.660 and times of israel and the j post like freaked out about that like what how can you say that of

00:54:23.000 course of course our president your president's owned by israel right like they do not like the

00:54:28.360 way that jd talks about israel and they've made it very clear and he went to the republican jewish 0.83

00:54:33.840 coalition and then they made him do that humiliation rituals in rosenberg so it's like 0.66

00:54:38.340 yeah this problem's not going away i don't like that i also don't like all these 0.61

00:54:42.720 like particular sects of jewish rabbis going to the white house to meet with trump and

00:54:48.680 also meet with jd right after jd signaled like hey we need to help like the heart of america

00:54:55.920 intact families husband and wife both together one of them is a stay-at-home parent for each

00:55:01.280 child they have the whole nine thousand dollar thing um that you know like i think that'll

00:55:06.500 preach there's like that's kind of the what republicans probably have to do in order to win

00:55:11.360 yeah but i couldn't help but notice that i think it was like a three-day span from him saying that

00:55:16.600 i'm like hmm all right and then three days later the group of jewish rabbis that happened to

00:55:23.120 actually be the same group from the same town that tyler olivera went in and so then they're

00:55:29.200 in the white house and so i'm like oh crap is this 9 000 thing actually just for these guys who

00:55:35.380 like their full-time jobs to study the tax code and the welfare benefits for like because you're 0.64

00:55:40.020 talking about people who literally don't even get married so they don't have to they do religiously

00:55:44.920 get married you know secret ceremony whatever but um not in a civil sense so they don't have

00:55:49.620 to register with the government so that every single one of their children gets higher benefits

00:55:54.000 on welfare because it's a single mom and it's like when that group is meeting with you know 0.97

00:56:00.120 what i mean so i'm not a huge fan well this is the kind of discussion that happens when you have

00:56:04.460 a topic that has become a political pariah and so israel support over the last two years well

00:56:11.360 we're coming up on three years now um we pulled right after october 7th and israel support the

00:56:18.000 tracking question is versus palestine uh 59 israel support three years ago uh last time i think it

00:56:24.980 was uh palestine was ahead and israel was i think at 33 35 so just generational collapse in public

00:56:33.320 relations for israel and it was very predictable and we were warning it the entire time but uh

00:56:38.960 gen z is under 20 now so again this is a president who needs to rebuild a coalition that includes the

00:56:45.680 youth who are pissed off and israel is one of their biggest issues yeah and it's like yet the 0.88

00:56:50.240 establishment republican party in his path to the nomination is putting him through all these 0.94

00:56:56.400 humiliation rituals which hurts him exactly yeah yeah yeah we'll see what happens but uh thanks

00:57:02.940 for coming on uh we really appreciate it um i think it's inevitable that uh whether or not it's

00:57:08.800 true socialism that's a debate you know that you know there's there's points on both sides but some

00:57:13.980 kind of social benefits if you have again i i concede nothing i think that this is just undeniable

00:57:20.940 if you have raw democracy coupled with universal suffrage coupled with a meritocracy that's a

00:57:25.760 global meritocracy and importing the third world into your country and you're you're telling you 1.00

00:57:31.460 know young people that if they're going to ever be able to have a family like their parents 0.99

00:57:35.040 generation did or own a home or be able to afford to have children they have to compete with 1.4 0.77

00:57:39.660 billion indians and yada yada yada if you're going to do all that and cherry on top a two-party 0.87

00:57:45.640 system and one of those two parties says we will give to our voters certain economic benefits and

00:57:51.720 then the other party on principle says we will give you nothing forever yeah come and vote for

00:57:57.280 us and i think you're done i think you're just done it's an inversion of what representative

00:58:01.680 democracy should be you're their slaves and i don't think any of this is a surprise again i

00:58:07.120 think we've lived through this before i think our economic conditions are bringing us to a point

00:58:11.500 where you're going to get a roosevelt and we know what teddy roosevelt looks like i would pick that

00:58:16.000 guy right over fdr but to me the most hilarious inversion of this whole thing is that if you ask

00:58:22.280 an economic conservative like what are you trying to conserve they'll talk about how great it was in

00:58:26.780 the 50s 60s and 70s where you could afford a house on a single janitor janitor income right right how

00:58:33.120 was how did that happen well it was the great compression mostly caused by economic progressive

00:58:38.200 policies right we had strong unions we had a 90 percent upper marginal income tax rate like it

00:58:43.540 didn't come out anywhere and the fact that these people are unable to even like mentally challenge

00:58:50.300 themselves and suffer the cognitive dissonance of understanding that economic progressivism

00:58:55.440 has its benefits just tells me that they're just going to fail right like there needs to be

00:59:01.520 smart people, real leaders, outsiders, people who want to challenge the Republican establishment

00:59:06.480 orthodoxy on this because the entire town of D.C. is like, nope, maintain the economic status quo,

00:59:12.340 and that has to change. Yeah, well said. Thanks for coming on the show. Thank you.

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The NXR Podcast - October 21, 2026

THE SPECIAL - Young Americans Embracing National Socialism？

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