The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - Breakfast With Beau ｜ Thursday 5th November 2026

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00:00:34.960 always i'm joined by my producer little harry how are you this morning good sir morning yeah

00:00:38.160 we're good this embodied voice out of the ether there the all-powerful all-knowing omnipresent

00:00:43.440 omniscient producer it is now eight in the a.m on thursday the fifth of uh november in the year

00:00:51.760 of our law 2026 remember remember the fifth of november guy fawkes night so i'm sure there's a

00:00:56.880 the Guy Fawkes thing on this day in history bit at the end of the show.

00:00:59.860 We'll get to it. We'll get to it.

00:01:01.640 All right. I'm joined by a special guest today, though.

00:01:04.220 It's not just me. It's not just a solo effort, an old school history bro effort.

00:01:07.620 I'm joined by the great Frank Wright.

00:01:10.600 How are you this morning?

00:01:12.840 Oh, I'm very well, thank you.

00:01:14.320 Thank you for having me on.

00:01:15.800 No, no, our pleasure.

00:01:16.760 Are you bright-eyed and bushy-tailed rocking around for the day ahead?

00:01:19.900 Well, I hope I at least look like it.

00:01:23.880 Yeah, I was saying just before we started,

00:01:25.440 Did some people sort of resent an early start like this?

00:01:29.020 Like 8am is, or even half 7, when you've got to get ready, is a bit early.

00:01:32.560 And other people are like, no, that's fine.

00:01:34.980 That's not a problem at all.

00:01:36.000 You seem in that camp.

00:01:38.540 Yes, well, any excuse to lock myself in the shed and escape my children.

00:01:44.440 Based.

00:01:45.200 Based.

00:01:46.700 All right.

00:01:47.980 All right, Frank.

00:01:48.840 Let's get into it then.

00:01:49.820 I think you know the show.

00:01:51.540 So, first of all, we'll look at the British print media.

00:01:54.240 What's going on in Fleet Street?

00:01:55.160 what's that cabal quite frankly an evil cabal of fleet street editors what are they banging on

00:01:59.460 about this morning right well because the midterms happened after they went to print yesterday

00:02:06.220 today's print cycle is they're all still talking about the midterm so a little bit of american

00:02:13.240 politics just to begin with um just out of interest broadly speaking do you care about u.s

00:02:19.300 politics are you really really interested in it read in and around it the history and stuff or

00:02:23.460 you like i just don't it's not me it's not us don't care what's your feelings oh yes yeah i

00:02:29.760 mean u.s politics very significant because of course we lived under the um the regime of

00:02:35.620 liberal democracy which was installed shortly after the great war and i think that that was

00:02:40.900 always an internationalist or if you like a globalist project with the intention that the

00:02:45.320 americans would lead that and in fact it was the wilson administration that first provided the

00:02:50.960 blueprint in the federal reserve i had to see a debt-based issuing system instead of national

00:02:56.100 wealth that would be internationalized as well and of course the wonderful slogan fighting wars

00:03:01.740 for the defense of democracy which was first advertised in 1917 and we've been hearing a lot

00:03:06.740 of that ever since haven't we so you have to look at the americans to see what's happening to the

00:03:10.720 international liberal project and and really that's why it's significant too and also because

00:03:15.680 it's usually rather fascinating as well yeah okay you're going back to you're going back to wilson

00:03:21.600 then you're going back to world war one or the end of world war one and and that time do you think

00:03:25.760 that's really when the united states between the wars became the hegemon of the world not after

00:03:33.200 world war ii but in the between the war period well i suppose if you want to simplify it there's

00:03:39.520 like three phases it's like the great war uh before and after uh then there's the second world war

00:03:45.340 when the collapsed liberal system was revised and revived and and further furthermore much more

00:03:52.140 closely coordinated after the invention of the cia in 1947 and then finally after the collapse of the

00:03:58.800 soviet union you could see kind of liberalism enter its third and perhaps most deranged phase

00:04:03.040 where it pursued openly this kind of unipolarity which it did briefly enjoy you know and then

00:04:09.160 And now here we are living in its legacy.

00:04:12.360 So, you know, for one example of why that might be an interesting thing to get into, I listened to Judge Napolitano when I went to Italy earlier this year.

00:04:19.960 And he was talking about a book he wrote about Wilson.

00:04:22.760 And he was saying that it was Wilson who repurposed the government to have an ever expanding civil administrative bureaucracy.

00:04:29.440 That's to say an army of what we now know as the lanyard class that would be funded by this issuance of debt, this fractional reserve banking system that now dominates our lives and can collapse and inflate the treasuries of national governments at will.

00:04:44.040 and so basically why do you have like pantomime elections a debt-based system and an administrative

00:04:51.840 state that seems to expand into every area of your life every year every minute it gets bigger

00:04:58.280 and bigger and more intrusive well you'll find the blueprint of all that in the wilson administration

00:05:03.660 so that's why i think that's interesting and i think really if you relitigate the 20th century

00:05:09.700 You can see it as a kind of live verdict taking place across those decades on the liberal system itself.

00:05:16.780 And like I said, we're living in its legacy today.

00:05:20.440 The century, the project for the new American century, the century is the 21st century.

00:05:24.700 So just to be clear, we're talking about President Woodrow Wilson, not Prime Minister Harold Wilson, two very different men.

00:05:30.400 So, yeah, going back to sort of the world that Woodrow Wilson imagined after World War One.

00:05:39.700 the type of world where well they didn't like the british empire or empires in general if there was

00:05:44.980 going to be any sort of empire it would be a dollar imperialism it would be the united states

00:05:49.460 at the top and quite explicitly against old world if you can call that old world empires

00:05:55.620 well yeah i mean the first world war bankrupted the british empire and we famously or rather less

00:06:00.420 famously today because everyone's deliberately supplied with a historical ignorance and hollywood

00:06:05.220 fantasies instead of them, Britain refused to pay its debts in the 1920s to the United States and

00:06:11.080 simply just ignored them. And this was supplied as one reason for the punishing rates of interest

00:06:16.660 and the enormous demand for securities in 1941. When we effectively sent all our gold to the

00:06:22.360 United States, they took all our bank securities and charged us a phenomenal rate of interest that

00:06:26.560 we had to pay. Whereas in fact, if you know about what happened to lend-lease in the Soviet Union,

00:06:31.820 without which Field Marshal Zhukov said the Soviets could never have won the war against the Germans

00:06:37.940 had the Americans not supplied them with near limitless military materiel.

00:06:42.700 And their debt was effectively forgiven in the 1970s, but we had to pay every penny.

00:06:47.460 Just recently, actually, I've been rereading Anthony Beaver's Stalingrad,

00:06:54.060 and there he's talking about how the Germans, the Wehrmacht,

00:06:57.440 was surprised by how many American vehicles the Soviets had.

00:07:02.560 They come across a giant factory and it's entirely US built

00:07:05.840 and funded factory.

00:07:07.180 It's like, yeah, a lot of people don't know that.

00:07:09.480 Yeah, that sort of thing.

00:07:10.220 Well, there's all that nonsense about, oh, the Soviets pushed

00:07:13.240 all their factories behind the Urals and so on.

00:07:15.460 No, they didn't.

00:07:16.260 It was the US basically gave them all the trucks and the artillery

00:07:19.700 and planes and so on.

00:07:20.960 And you'll find that you can find archive footage of all this,

00:07:23.920 But it's been very carefully disremembered and not included in a lot of historical documentaries because of the sheer scale of that effort.

00:07:32.000 For example, from memory, I can remember that the Arctic fleet lost more armor than was lost in the military campaign itself.

00:07:39.020 That's to say, trying to ship this stuff to the Soviets resulted in more losses than they did on the battlefield.

00:07:45.800 So that gives you an idea of the scale at which Stalin was armed by Roosevelt.

00:07:50.680 hmm yeah that is a a usually unspoken corner of history this is far more frank this is far more

00:07:59.700 interesting than the bloody headlines we've got here talking about trump i'm much more interested

00:08:04.040 in history in the broader picture but i'm gonna you mean to say that you suspect the so-called

00:08:09.700 news deliberately supplies the public with false information and ignorance in order to manipulate

00:08:14.920 them into believing in their elections what an extremist you are dear i should never have

00:08:20.400 found this show

00:08:21.160 mind you the news is pretty wacky you know the news is wacky enough to merit attention there's

00:08:29.960 some quite wacky things in there and some interesting things have actually happened

00:08:33.780 the more the more sloppy end of sort of the tabloid print media can be like funny if it

00:08:39.560 wasn't such a serious thing ultimately it's funny sometimes yeah um so much of my own chagrin i'll

00:08:46.180 have to claw it back to the the the print media because that is what we got okay the financial

00:08:50.780 times crushing mid-term rebuke to trump to trump voters vote republicans from power in u.s congress

00:08:56.200 anger over cost of living spurs democratic blue wave that's the that's the balloon army

00:09:01.160 tsunami balloon army advance pins blame on iran war um as recriminations begin and oil prices

00:09:09.200 tumble just instantly just have a quick check in with crude we often on this show often check in

00:09:13.680 with the price of crude yeah it has come down i mean not tumble but it's come down quite a lot

00:09:17.340 brent's now trading at shade over 95 a barrel and west texas is just under 88 a barrel a fair few

00:09:23.980 dollars down from yesterday or certainly 48 hours ago anyway um the the fallout from the midterms so

00:09:30.680 trump's administration has lost control of congress and the senate and lots of governorships

00:09:36.160 have gone blue as well many are saying it's a result of people not particularly happy with the

00:09:43.300 iran war the war in persia is not particularly popular and even jd vance has come out and just

00:09:48.780 explicitly said that and i did see one other bit of news earlier it was a trump uh sorry don jr

00:09:53.280 don jr has also come out and said yeah people didn't like the iran war thing dad and he trump

00:10:00.260 has come out and said i would do it all again i understand that but if i just have my time again

00:10:05.620 I would do it again. What's your thoughts or feelings on all that, Frank?

00:10:10.260 Well, first of all, the reason that Donald Trump supplied for that, I would do it again,

00:10:14.480 despite knowing the cost, is Iran can never have a nuclear weapon. Now, if you believe that the

00:10:20.800 Iranians have a nuclear weapon or are close to having a nuclear weapon, then you have been

00:10:27.280 terribly deceived and misled. That's simply not true. It's a fantasy. The original reason

00:10:33.700 supplied for this excursion that was obviously undertaken at the behest of the israelis and

00:10:38.780 that's still on the u.s state department website by the way that was marco rubio who said they'd

00:10:43.700 launched the war to defend israel effectively so that's not propaganda either the reason that

00:10:49.380 they supplied was regime change in iran now if you are the kind of friendless sad tragic figure

00:10:55.400 that i am you actually go and read up on these things you find out that david barnet was

00:11:00.040 effectively living in the White House for months, months ahead of this excursion. He was the head of

00:11:06.660 Mossad at the time. He was the man who said, well actually I'd probably better say this, as the war

00:11:13.440 broke out I did a broadcast in which I said that the protests had been orchestrated by Mossad to

00:11:19.340 create regime change in Iran which was the original reason supplied for the war. They wanted to change

00:11:25.420 the regime and they were going to do this by orchestrating violent protests by killing

00:11:29.660 policemen and causing chaos on the model of the Mossadegh overturning in 1953. Now David Barnier

00:11:37.680 actually told Netanyahu and said that he should tell Donald Trump that those protests would not

00:11:42.900 produce regime change in 72 or 96 hours but would perhaps take a year. But Netanyahu told Trump that

00:11:49.680 they'd take a couple of days and it'd all be over by Monday and obviously that was an abject lie.

00:11:54.000 the reasons supplied for the war have changed consistently.

00:11:57.240 At one point, it was reopening the Straits of Hormuz and so on.

00:12:01.260 So, you know, he's stuck with the nuclear line

00:12:03.540 because they say that they can't have a rogue nuclear power in the Middle East.

00:12:07.420 Now, of course, there is a rogue nuclear power in the Middle East,

00:12:10.300 and it isn't Iran.

00:12:12.060 It's Israel.

00:12:13.720 And obviously, that's unsayable in the US political establishment,

00:12:19.260 but that's the reason for the battle of the letters

00:12:21.220 between John F. Kennedy and David Ben-Gurion.

00:12:24.780 And of course, that arsenal was largely assembled

00:12:27.840 by stolen nuclear secrets and material

00:12:29.980 from the United States itself.

00:12:32.240 Jonathan Pollard was involved in things like that,

00:12:34.420 and he was pardoned by President Trump,

00:12:36.060 I think, last year.

00:12:36.880 So there's a rather murky little backstory to all this.

00:12:39.920 But basically, look, I said at the beginning of the war

00:12:43.460 that it would be a disaster without limits,

00:12:46.680 that it would lead to the strategic defeat

00:12:48.440 of the United States in the region,

00:12:49.980 that the protests as were orchestrated by the Israelis and that they wouldn't achieve regime

00:12:55.860 change and of course the nonsense idea that killing the supreme leader and bombing civilians

00:13:00.600 including children in an elementary school would lead to the people rising up and uniting with the

00:13:08.220 people who were bombing them was simply just absurd. The reasons supplied for this war were

00:13:13.040 absurd. It's never been a realistic military goal and this is the reason why since 1979 when

00:13:20.200 Benjamin Netanyahu at the Jonathan conferences that he set up in his brother's name first called

00:13:25.600 for military strikes on places like Iran, no US president has seen fit to do it for the reasons

00:13:31.800 that were supplied to Donald Trump before he did this one. He was warned that all the bad things

00:13:36.560 that happened the global economy the US strategic defeat in the region the inability to militarily

00:13:43.580 remove the regime the madness of attacking a fortress so far away a natural fortress so far

00:13:50.060 away that has been preparing for all those decades for precisely this event all these reasons were

00:13:55.140 supplied to him and they did not he didn't listen to them but all the presidents before him since

00:14:00.660 79 did listen to them and that's the reason why it hadn't happened until now because it was a

00:14:05.720 predictable disaster the trump administration actually fired generals that warned him about

00:14:10.400 this and a lot of state department officials who actually know a lot about iran as well

00:14:14.380 they all got the boot because anyone who wasn't on board well simply got excluded and he refused

00:14:20.240 to listen to them and then he watched like video reels of explosions for four minutes every morning

00:14:24.920 supplied to him by susie wiles who has apparently been misleading him about the polling going up to

00:14:30.320 the midterms as well and what's the what's the result of all this well susie was the chief of

00:14:34.940 staff of the white house is now effectively orchestrating the scapegoating of pete hegseth

00:14:40.560 apparently leaking to the media to get rid of him and hang the whole business around his neck before

00:14:45.720 they come for her as well that's a good point that's in the new cycle a lot today that yeah

00:14:51.320 they're turning on each other people some say susie wiles herself has to go people saying pete

00:14:55.680 hegseth has to go uh people saying like rubio's look questions swirl about hegseth's future after

00:15:02.260 of midterm loss has advanced distances himself from iran war and i've seen various other stories

00:15:06.760 like yeah like susie wiles like trump's thinking about getting rid of her trump's getting thinking

00:15:11.040 about getting rid of all sorts of people but all that sort of more rumor mill stuff at the moment

00:15:15.340 um but are you making i think you make a bunch of very good points about bibby's war do you think

00:15:20.780 history might remember it as bibby's war um they've wanted it ever he has wanted it ever since

00:15:26.620 it's 1979 hasn't he that's been his baby if history remembers anything it depends on who

00:15:33.320 writes the history doesn't it there is a very long history of netanyahu's litigation for these wars

00:15:39.620 and effectively he set up two conferences called the jonathan or jonathan conferences named after

00:15:44.520 his late brother who was killed in the israeli raid on entebbe yes that's interesting the purpose

00:15:50.240 of those those conferences which he set up with his dad one in 1979 in i think jerusalem and then

00:15:56.220 1984 in Washington was to persuade the Americans and the British to abandon diplomacy in the Middle

00:16:03.100 East and instead use war to attack what Israel designated as terrorist states in a rather now

00:16:09.440 familiar list such as Libya, Iran, Iraq, Syria and so on. So basically abandon talking to people

00:16:17.160 and being reasonable, abandon peace, abandon stability and just bomb Israel's enemies as much

00:16:23.340 as possible until we destroy all of them and we ruin all their neighbors and israel can then

00:16:27.580 become the dominant power in the region now that was the israeli grand strategy and it's failed

00:16:31.640 now um as as for what as for what's going on here the reason why we're talking about this is

00:16:37.680 as the root cause of the defeat of the republicans is that it was it was predicted i predicted it

00:16:43.200 it was obviously going to be a disaster and last night it was jd vance himself who said that there

00:16:49.620 were four reasons that his pollers have told him why people were voting democrat instead of

00:16:54.580 republican and those reasons which he said were the reasons that the only reasons they would come

00:16:59.000 back is they had to end the war in iran they had to focus on the cost of living which of course

00:17:03.960 flows from that war they had to put america first oh what a strange idea and they had to change the

00:17:09.680 united states relationship to israel so this has now made the news one question i've got for sorry

00:17:16.640 sorry carry on i'm sorry some some some people have come out and said like kind of foaming at

00:17:21.360 the mouth saying oh jd vance is a traitor and it's it's because of him that the war's failed

00:17:25.840 and so on well this isn't a novel position jd vance hasn't just invented that position

00:17:32.960 in the wake of these uh you know terrible results predictably terrible results for the republican

00:17:38.720 party having now lost uh the governorships and the the house and the senate even in its heartlands

00:17:44.560 in places like Texas, which is remarkable

00:17:46.460 and never usually happens, so it's

00:17:48.340 exceptionally bad.

00:17:50.460 So, you know, J.D. Vance in 2024

00:17:52.420 gave a speech to the Quincy

00:17:54.360 Institute for Responsible Statecraft

00:17:56.320 and that speech was titled

00:17:58.220 Realism and Restraint Towards

00:18:00.420 a Foreign Policy for the American Middle

00:18:02.300 Class. Notably in that speech

00:18:04.340 he asked, if we are the moral Christian

00:18:06.580 Party, the Republican Party,

00:18:08.560 why do we keep on having wars that keep

00:18:10.400 genociding Christians? He said

00:18:12.500 The Iraq war had led to the death of one million historic Christians alone.

00:18:16.720 And he also said he was asked, like, what are you going to do about stopping the boom in neocon wars?

00:18:21.520 And he said, well, these wars have bankrupted the United States financially and morally,

00:18:27.580 and that they've delivered disaster for the American middle class, right,

00:18:31.980 in turning what used to be a profitable country into one that's saddled by an enormous national debt,

00:18:36.940 because about at least 10 trillion dollars the u.s national debt directly flows from these

00:18:42.660 middle eastern regime change wars which were undertaken as a result of mr netanyahu's very

00:18:48.260 successful lobby in those conferences so he's said vance has said since then that's always been his

00:18:55.280 position that this is destroying the american dream for americans at home that these failed

00:19:01.480 adventures in the middle east right have been disastrous they've been murderous they've killed

00:19:05.880 millions of christians and they've bankrupted the u.s and wrecked the lives of working middle

00:19:11.360 class americans so they need realism and restraint instead and he said in that speech as well america

00:19:17.360 needs to revise what it means to be an ally of the united states and he did mention israel there too

00:19:23.180 so none of this is new it's been vance's position from you know before he took office as vice

00:19:28.400 president this time and that's the reason why he stood next to trump and said it was the peace

00:19:33.040 ticket well frank tucker carlson went as far as to describe donald trump as a slave

00:19:41.100 to benjamin netanyahu and israel would you go that far do you agree to what degree might you

00:19:50.400 agree with that characterization a slave well i think it's interesting to ask why no u.s president

00:19:58.200 since 1979 except him copped for this plan because the israelis have been presenting the same cock and

00:20:04.840 bull nonsense for all those decades so it is curious you know what's the reason why the united

00:20:11.960 states president would be warned and he was warned by military intelligence by the dni

00:20:16.920 by his strategic war planners by the state department that it would be disastrous and

00:20:22.020 potentially terminal for the global economy that americans would see their cost of living and food

00:20:27.900 and fuel rise inexorably that they'd be humiliated militarily that it would be a disaster diplomatically

00:20:34.060 that it would undermine american security guarantees in the region and it would see the

00:20:38.280 americans being viewed as agreement incapable and now they're also obviously financially incapable

00:20:43.640 of reconstructing the region after the war a role that will probably pass to the chinese instead

00:20:48.980 so you know why why did he do it what what was going on there the the leverage that netanyahu

00:20:57.140 has had over President Trump is evident. Now, the nature of that leverage is not.

00:21:03.300 Wars in Persia, if you know your history, anyone out there, are always very, very difficult,

00:21:07.040 perhaps with the exception of Alexander, maybe the Mongols. Usually they're very, very,

00:21:11.700 very difficult and you come to a sticky end attempting something there. One thing though,

00:21:16.200 one thing I think is an interesting point, I wonder what you think about it, is that

00:21:19.920 when you look back at history, and it's a fait accompli, it's already happened, you

00:21:23.840 back it's very very easy and wrong-headed to think that was the way it was always going to be

00:21:29.200 it's obvious in hindsight that that's how that was going to play out but when you look back at

00:21:33.280 history i think very often it's important to look at what happened just before some big event for

00:21:40.240 example the the few weeks the few months before august 1914 is very very important to know in

00:21:48.560 detail so having said that when you look at before this war started in february 2026

00:21:56.000 remember trump had that quite frankly pun intended quite frankly a a a remarkable

00:22:03.600 military success in venezuela you remember that a remarkable operation really and a couple of other

00:22:10.400 things like that midnight hammer operation seemed to be very very remarkably successful and do you

00:22:17.360 you think that maybe in that window of time, January, February this year, he was just in

00:22:22.320 a mind space where he's like, oh, we can make big moves. And they seem to be working. Israel

00:22:29.000 Mossad are saying to me, look, we know where the Ayatollah is. If you give us the green

00:22:34.600 light to drop a few JDAMs on his head, we're going to get him. And Trump's in this mindset

00:22:40.140 that right now at the end of 2026 seems or is crazy but back then he might have thought we've

00:22:47.720 had some great successes midnight hammer precision real precision strikes and the venezuela thing

00:22:54.440 the maduro thing that was a remarkable a remarkable almost a perfect raid in a way

00:23:00.140 we could do we could pull off something similar here and you know in hindsight it's easy to say

00:23:04.780 that's crazy but at the time his mind might have been in a position where i'm making big moves all

00:23:13.460 over the world changing regimes like that and we could we could pull it off here again it might be

00:23:18.840 it might just be the case i mean it's a gamble seems now or is objectively a crazy gamble that

00:23:26.600 he might have thought if we kill the ayatollah and all the men around him the top two dozen guys

00:23:31.640 that regime there is a realistic possibility that that regime collapses and then there's

00:23:36.620 one less islamic theocracy in the world is it that crazy well i've been uh watching old episodes of

00:23:44.100 the a-team with my son because the a-team is mint and of course who doesn't like explosions

00:23:50.060 but what you've got to realize here is i think you're in danger of overthinking this and and

00:23:55.360 and in fact thinking about it at all because president trump was as everybody knows he knows

00:24:01.400 what was going on shown four minute reels of explosions throughout the war campaign in iran

00:24:07.400 and thought everything was going well because he saw a lot of things being blown up now you say that

00:24:12.460 operation midnight hammer was a success and i would say to you that was a very expensive piece

00:24:16.900 of theater bear in mind this war costs between 1 billion and 2 billion dollars per day depending on

00:24:22.320 which day you're counting the cost of it is absolutely eye-watering and for what donald

00:24:28.020 Trump came on the telly after Operation Midnight Hammer and said that the nuclear capability of the

00:24:34.280 Iranians had been obliterated and that was the end of it yeah in fact what they had what it turned

00:24:38.740 out they had done is dropped a lot of money into the dust because it had absolutely zero effect on

00:24:44.920 the military capability of the Iranians and there wasn't any kind of nuclear weapons program to

00:24:49.200 obliterate anyway and then strangely enough after Operation Midnight Hammer Donald Trump keeps going

00:24:55.080 on about the necessity to strike iran to prevent them having a nuclear program which he claimed

00:24:59.640 has already been obliterated that is odd you might not know that the russians uh actually

00:25:06.320 staffed the iranian nuclear power station at bush air there were hundreds of russian technicians

00:25:11.840 there and there were lots of diplomatic cables going back and forth with the russians warning

00:25:16.540 the israelis and hardly bothering to mention the americans of course saying that if they continue

00:25:21.720 to try and strike because they were the israelis were trying to bomb it if they continued to try

00:25:26.020 and strike that nuclear reactor and killed all those russians that there would be a retaliation

00:25:30.420 from the russians and yet the israelis did from memory four times they tried to blow it up

00:25:35.040 eventually the russians evacuated practically everyone leaving about 30 technicians there and

00:25:39.520 that is obviously subject to international atomic energy agency inspection and it's been constructed

00:25:45.340 in a way and so on that it can't be converted towards building nuclear materials for bombs

00:25:49.920 and things like this so that was completely insane and as for venezuela when you look at that again

00:25:54.960 it looks extremely likely i think it's actually been admitted that you basically had a bunch of

00:25:59.700 paid informants in the country that you bribed so it looks a lot less like so again i'd go back to

00:26:05.780 the a-team yeah if you've watched the a-team and you think that that's real then have a look at the

00:26:11.460 news and then look at the news again yeah yeah don't be bewitched by explosions the doctrine

00:26:17.180 of shock and awe that there's a book written about that called shock and awe and i suggest you read

00:26:21.580 it if you haven't read it it talks to you about the technique that was used in the 2003 iraq war

00:26:27.040 by putting lots of impressive explosions on the telly and then of course the resulting quagmire

00:26:32.200 and humiliation that saw the region handed to the iranians effectively by an extremely expensive

00:26:38.140 military action of the of the united states at the behest of the israelis again commissioned by

00:26:43.700 a false claim of weapons of mass destruction in iraq there aren't weapons of mass destruction in

00:26:49.460 iran there weren't any in iraq either it doesn't stop them because it's got nothing to do with

00:26:54.020 that these are just talking points supplied to people who are paid uh to go along with it all

00:26:59.460 are you suggesting b.a barakas is a fictional character and not a real man you're saying the

00:27:04.420 a-team isn't a documentary no no how dare you impugn the reputation of b.a barakas right that's

00:27:11.060 that that's unforgivable i'm just telling you right don't be bewitched by explosions because

00:27:16.180 explosions are awesome and everybody loves them who doesn't like watching explosions it's a

00:27:21.940 documentary uh series isn't it okay anyway right seriously it bewitches you it bewitches you this

00:27:30.180 is a form of spectacle right and here's that there's another kind of different thesis about

00:27:34.900 reading like the kind of regime change wars era which is that it produces this kind of violent

00:27:40.580 spectacle that's compelling and but also meant to be somewhat thrilling as a demonstration of

00:27:45.600 unchallengeable power and hegemony whereas in fact what you're seeing is the destruction of

00:27:51.200 an entire way of life the attempted destruction as donald trump said of a civilization you're

00:27:56.820 looking at death from above that's turned into a cinematic spectacle and mistaken for victory

00:28:03.160 bear in mind that rather like the nonsensical idea that you could bomb people into loving you

00:28:09.780 in iran we were all told that iraq would soon turn into something like sweden it would become

00:28:14.940 a liberal democracy because we could rebuild the nation in this liberal internationalist

00:28:19.700 liberal interventionist nation building this is the kind of delusions that we're supplied to

00:28:24.640 permission this kind of level of barbarism and plunder to play devil's advocate though i mean

00:28:29.820 is the iranian regime not a repressive islamic theocracy is it not

00:28:34.200 what everyone that you want to bomb becomes demonized yeah no i mean i would ask you once

00:28:44.280 again to to it will not say that i'd say that everyone that you want to bomb gets demonized

00:28:53.460 so that's part of the technique if it's always been isn't it if you watch yeah yeah yeah that

00:28:58.360 is yeah first you barbarize people in the public imagination and then you start bombing their

00:29:02.940 schools and hospitals it's a straightforward question is you don't think the iranian the

00:29:07.820 in tehran are repressive islamic theocrats then i think i think that's ridiculous really yes

00:29:17.120 oh i think it's just wrong i know people who've been there i know people who are there

00:29:23.360 and here's a here's a wacky thought for you if you dig out the intelligence reports that

00:29:28.200 Trump saw before he launched this mad caper that wasn't never in the American national interest

00:29:34.180 and had no military possibility of success, but he did it anyway. If you look into that,

00:29:39.480 the report said that the Iranian population are going to liberalize in a matter of months to maybe

00:29:45.980 a year or two. So if you actually did nothing, you would probably see the Iranian people being

00:29:52.320 increasingly discheesed with the way that their government is disposed right now. So, you know,

00:29:58.020 the idea that you could just then start bombing them and then that would hurry

00:30:02.360 things along. It's just mad. Actually, what that did.

00:30:04.960 I agree with that bit. I agree with that bit.

00:30:06.680 That galvanized the population.

00:30:09.420 Well, take it down insane. Do you not think it was a gangster style stage there?

00:30:13.460 If you think these people are stupid, look,

00:30:15.700 I would ask you to consider the difference between the Iranian negotiating team,

00:30:20.600 the Iranian foreign minister, the kind of things that these people say,

00:30:24.260 if you read them,

00:30:25.120 and then have a look at what mr whitkoff and mr kushner and mr grunberg have been up to

00:30:30.260 these three men have been going around the world without being officially appointed to any

00:30:34.360 government role as so-called peace envoys but what they've done is they've tried to replace

00:30:39.320 diplomatic negotiations with murder and financialization because don't don't forget

00:30:44.820 the americans and israelis have twice killed the negotiating team of the iranians

00:30:50.100 and so who's the barbarian here secondly to attempt to replace uh negotiations about the

00:30:56.300 survival of your people and your nation with effectively black rock bribery as they've tried

00:31:01.040 in ukraine as well is simply obscene and leaves people speechless like this isn't a negotiation

00:31:06.320 you're attempting to offer me money to sell my people out and that makes perfect sense to people

00:31:11.260 like mr kushner and whitkoff whose every peace deal seems to coincidentally enrich themselves

00:31:16.420 so again you know i would say that every accusation here is a confession

00:31:20.800 do you do you not believe any of the reports that iran has exported terror

00:31:27.040 across the region nay the world no it's nonsense no it hasn't

00:31:32.940 oh period full stop no it just hasn't it's uh look this is look this is the formula you you

00:31:40.420 get these ideas like oh saddam's this and saddam's that who who supplied saddam hussein

00:31:46.120 with the means to construct chemical weapons and help build his factories to use them in the Iran-Iraq

00:31:51.420 war. That was Germany and European nations and that's because there was significant western

00:31:57.380 interest in seeing them win that war. Why should we listen to the Mullers? Well in that war the

00:32:04.300 Ayatollah Khomeini said that the use of chemical weapons was haram and despite the fact that his

00:32:09.480 civilians and soldiers had suffered terribly by Saddam's chemical weapons effectively supplied

00:32:14.440 by the liberal civilized West, I might add, he still didn't use them. That's why when you listen

00:32:20.220 to his successor say Iran will not build a nuclear weapon because it's Haram, you should take him

00:32:24.860 seriously because they had a very long bloody war in which they suffered terribly with the use of

00:32:29.620 chemical weapons and still refused to build them. So they are agreement capable. Agreement capability

00:32:35.340 means that when people make an agreement, you can expect them to uphold it. And when the Americans

00:32:40.280 and Israelis have made agreements with the Iranians and then proceeded to either kill or

00:32:44.100 try to kill their diplomats and negotiators so you can see uh for yourself if you have any realistic

00:32:51.000 measure of what civilization and barbarism is if you if you end your agreements with murdering

00:32:57.040 people then i wouldn't say that you're on the side of the angels okay so you don't think that

00:33:03.500 you don't believe the reports that say iran funds proxy paramilitaries around the region like well

00:33:13.520 fees or like look i don't believe iran is a major sponsor of international terror i believe that

00:33:19.680 that is an indication of the strategy technique that was developed by benjamin et al who 1979

00:33:25.140 is conferences to simply label israel's enemies as terror states and sponsors of international terror

00:33:31.720 and that's that's worked very well for them and it's worked in every single case you know look

00:33:36.960 at gaddafi look at look at assad uh look at look at saddam hussein and so on you know suddenly

00:33:43.240 these people become monsters and their civilizations have to be wrecked and by the way I think you ought

00:33:48.980 to have a look at the second order effects of these wars which is of course the magnification

00:33:53.980 of mass migration before Saddam sorry before Gaddafi was in fact toppled and murdered brutally

00:34:00.320 in a pipe with a bayonet of his jacksie thanks to people like David Cameron and Hillary Clinton

00:34:07.340 in Operation Odyssey Dawn he warned that if you kill him Europe will turn black because you'll

00:34:13.220 smash open the floodgates to African migration, because the Libyans held them back, and the

00:34:17.540 Gaddafi, of course. And now Europe has turned black. What an amazing coincidence. If the US

00:34:23.900 proceeds with the next round of war, which seems very likely, since there's nothing now to restrain

00:34:30.120 Mr. Trump from indulging his greatest ally, then the Iranians have said that they will no longer

00:34:35.240 restrain their response, which seems to be an indication that, pardon me, all the desalination

00:34:42.300 plants natural gas energy facilities electricity generators in the gulf will be destroyed

00:34:47.620 meaning overnight the all the gulf states become uninhabitable and that's up to another 40 million

00:34:52.740 people will be flooding into europe as refugees that could be an apocalyptic event take gaddafi

00:34:59.500 for example you mentioned gaddafi i mean do you not believe the the libyan regime was behind

00:35:04.260 for example the lockerby bombing do you think that's a fiction i think um it's probably too

00:35:11.540 complicated to get into here but there is actually quite an interesting thread to pull out about the

00:35:16.700 Lockerbie bombing. I mean was Colonel Gaddafi arming people? Yes he certainly was. Did Gaddafi

00:35:22.660 have also other things going on that might make him of interest to people who wanted to keep

00:35:27.500 shall we say a debt-based system going in Africa? Yes he offered to back a gold dina to take Africans

00:35:34.720 off the European and French-led debt system in the west of Africa which is formerly full of French

00:35:41.020 colonial possessions and he said that that was debt slavery and he had the money to do it and he

00:35:45.740 was going to do it uh and uh that you might consider that to be one reason why he suddenly

00:35:50.060 became you know the greatest monster in the world you know we have a long and um storied history of

00:35:55.460 working with these people until we defenestrate them because a new narrative has come along

00:35:59.420 i mean he came tony blair shook his hand in a tent in london yeah that was remarkable wasn't it

00:36:04.540 that was absolutely remarkable gordon brown let the guy the one the main suspects of the

00:36:09.140 lucky bomber just go home um i mean thank you we've got to move on in a bit but i'm interested

00:36:13.960 in your view and your taking on this i mean take for example saddam hussein you mentioned him earlier

00:36:17.840 i mean there it was aggression in kuwait is that not true wasn't wasn't his state run as something

00:36:25.160 like a personal possession like a gangster family would you not say the hussein family were

00:36:30.800 effectively gangsters well if you want to characterize people like this i think it's

00:36:36.460 important to recognize that all those straight lines in the deserts are basically oil protectorates

00:36:41.500 that we set up with the French in the wake of the First World War mainly. I mean like so you know

00:36:45.620 are these countries real? No they're not and I think the interesting question is is whether

00:36:49.580 they're going to survive this latest round of adventurism in the Middle East. Non-secretar,

00:36:53.620 non-secretar, sir I was asking you about the Saddam family. Do you think they did anything

00:36:58.880 wrong? Deserved to be removed from power? What? Like the borders is another thing we can talk

00:37:06.160 about that but i asked you about whether you think the hussein family deserved to be removed

00:37:11.420 from power by force do you think they've done anything wrong they deserved it but but i mean

00:37:16.140 yeah look uh i think that's really quite um a dangerous way to frame things because when you

00:37:24.860 calculate the value of an action such as a consequential one like this you know what you're

00:37:30.520 going to do are you going to start bombing a nation and so on you're going to mount a large

00:37:34.460 scale war you have to look at the price of action and inaction so you know what's the price of not

00:37:40.860 doing anything and what's the price of doing this and was was the price of doing that realistically

00:37:46.940 calculated i don't think so i'm playing devil's advocate here frank i think the war in iraq was

00:37:53.060 obviously a complete catastrophe so just to be clear i'm playing devil's advocate go on oh yeah

00:37:57.820 yeah yeah but but if you're going to be realistic about and this is why you know i like the idea of

00:38:03.260 realism and restraint in foreign policy because i'm a realist in international relations if you're

00:38:08.220 going to be realistic about it you're supposed to put a reasonable calculus on the things that you

00:38:12.300 do and you don't do now whether a lot you like people isn't really a factor in that because

00:38:17.340 that's an irresponsible way of doing it and it clouds your judgment it's what happens if i do

00:38:22.280 this and what happens if i don't do this and what's the human cost and what's the cost in

00:38:27.900 terms of our credibility and is there a moral cost and do we care about that and so on and i

00:38:33.000 don't think that that calculus was applied there i think that basically you had an objective and

00:38:38.120 you manufactured the case for it and you went ahead and that's what you told the public and i think

00:38:42.300 that's what we're seeing here in iran i think if you look at these wars in this way you can see

00:38:46.360 that there's a formula that's applied consistently across them all and so that's why i would say that

00:38:50.920 you see the systematic demonization of leaders and peoples and civilizations and so on whereas

00:38:56.380 a realistic point of view would be you know is it going to serve our interests to attempt to destroy

00:39:01.180 these people to destroy their nation to kill their leaders to bomb them to spend all this money on

00:39:06.060 the bombs and so on and what are we going to get out of it in the end well what we usually get out

00:39:11.420 of it in the end is bankruptcy and mass migration and uh and and again a near pariah status in

00:39:17.580 certain regions of the world for continually doing this where has it got us i mean obviously the uh

00:39:25.440 the fallout after the 2003 invasion of Iraq was, as I say, catastrophic.

00:39:31.960 But then, I mean, Saddam did do a war of aggression against Iran and Kuwait

00:39:36.180 and was going to do it against Saudi Arabia.

00:39:39.760 Is that not true?

00:39:42.420 Well, of course it's true.

00:39:44.120 I mean, the reason why it's a significant interest

00:39:46.800 is because a lot of the value of the US dollar

00:39:49.760 is guaranteed by the agreements that the Saudis made with the Americans

00:39:53.300 in the early 1970s.

00:39:55.020 And so if you if you allow, I mean, if you want to talk about repressive family dynasties that dominate oil rich nations, look at the Saudis.

00:40:04.720 I mean, the reason why it's called Saudi Arabia is, you know, so you are aware of it.

00:40:09.020 You may not be aware that the majority of its oil wealth is concentrated in a region of Saudi that's overwhelmingly populated by Shia Muslims.

00:40:17.540 And when the Saudi army goes on exercise, it occasionally tosses artillery shells into them because they hate them.

00:40:23.540 this is not a cohesive nation in the sense that you know britain is that england is doesn't it

00:40:29.900 these are places are basically with lines drawn around them that are effectively oil protectorates

00:40:36.380 and so some of them are quite big like saudi and then you've got the postage stamp ones in the gulf

00:40:41.940 and if you like they're not real countries in as much as that the the population often have a quite

00:40:48.240 antagonistic view to the dynasties that rule them who were largely installed as a result of imperial

00:40:54.400 power now i don't think they're going to survive this latest round of adventurism because it looks

00:41:00.460 increasingly unstable and i think the map may be significantly redrawn as a result i mean saudi

00:41:06.320 arabia is a very very interesting case i mean um i don't know if you've ever read seven pillars of

00:41:11.680 wisdom t.e lawrence yeah he talks about he talks he actually talks more about the king of the

00:41:16.780 jazz but you've the the figure of ibn al-soud is in the background there basically sort of in the

00:41:23.180 background in that book comes into it a bit though that's after it's really after world war one where

00:41:28.180 the supremacy of the house of al-soud is sort of in in the 20s we that wasn't really europe's first

00:41:35.660 pick well it wasn't it wasn't britain's first pick or the united states first pick at all but

00:41:39.760 and nonetheless the meta point you're making about a lot of the boulders in the middle east are

00:41:44.560 or some sort of like, represent oil protectors.

00:41:47.520 That's a very interesting way of putting it.

00:41:49.720 This is fascinating.

00:41:50.760 Frank, I want to have you back on to have some long-form conversation

00:41:53.180 about this stuff, because this breakfast show

00:41:55.060 just isn't really the ideal forum for it.

00:41:58.720 I'm supposed to be doing the front pages,

00:42:00.500 but this conversation's so interesting to me.

00:42:02.140 Let's talk about the front pages then, Bo.

00:42:04.180 No one's twisting your arm.

00:42:05.640 All right, then.

00:42:06.520 Vance turns on Trump.

00:42:07.620 There we go, Harry, bring it back up.

00:42:08.840 Vance turns on Trump.

00:42:09.900 In fact, let's whip through them,

00:42:10.940 because it's mostly the same stuff.

00:42:12.280 It's about the midterms.

00:42:13.840 the there you go people celebrating Vance blames Trump's war for crushing defeat there we go Trump

00:42:20.320 looking unhappy MAGA turns on Trump look some libtards are over the moon that Trump got thrashed

00:42:27.660 lame Donald Duck doing a bit of a Donald Duck impression he's a lame duck now you get it you

00:42:32.160 get it very very clever wordplay isn't it Frank Trump dumped again very very clever wordplay

00:42:37.420 all right uh and now the end is near i did it mag away hilarious stuff isn't it hilarious hilarious

00:42:47.340 stuff okay reborn in the usa reborn it yeah we've got lots of puns this morning that's uh what is

00:42:54.600 that um who's the boss you know born in the usa what's his name you know bruce springsteen

00:42:59.460 springsteen yeah oh here's something slightly different megan markel's dad uh they may well

00:43:05.180 be a third stash of child abuse images in a lock-up in Hollywood that the FBI are now going to look

00:43:11.400 into. So let's move over that. And here's the last story, which is actually some British news

00:43:16.200 from the Express. It's a good paper. You can read your Express now. It says,

00:43:22.400 The disbelieving residents of Linton-on-Ouse react with incredulity after a government minister says

00:43:28.380 planned sites to house asylum seekers will be away from communities. And they're saying,

00:43:34.240 you are not listening mr burnham you're not listening to us 1200 migrants to be put in

00:43:39.800 their 600 person strong community let's talk about that for a moment what do you think about

00:43:45.620 this dispersion of our invaders making sure they're not in hotels anymore and instead we'll

00:43:51.460 disperse them smear them across the country as a whole because if anything rural areas are too

00:43:56.240 what what do you think about all that sort of thing well again partially uh you know a function

00:44:02.300 of political technique when you find a hot button issue and the public are talking about it and what

00:44:07.200 they were talking about was the cost it came down to the cost oh the cost of migrants in hotels and

00:44:12.080 we're spending all this money and then that's what you got hammered with on the news well then they

00:44:16.340 came up with a brilliant idea of transferring or if you like percolating the migrants out of the

00:44:21.100 hotels uh into your streets by by renting houses and uh putting like dozens of them next door to

00:44:28.640 you which of course is a brilliant idea isn't it so it's a way of shifting the debate because then

00:44:33.780 what what happens if you do that in terms of political technique is it takes time for the

00:44:39.300 news to gabble up the a similar amount of heat and momentum to talk about that and because the last

00:44:45.460 issue was effectively corralled into cost not the injustice of this happening at all but just cost

00:44:51.840 then it'll take a few weeks maybe months for people to start concentrating or for the news to

00:44:56.680 focus on the cost financial cost of doing this in HMOs instead and of course it never talks about

00:45:03.600 the cost the social cost of this which because it's wholly negative and it never talks about

00:45:08.700 the cost in terms of the damage to political legitimacy and I think that that's the profound

00:45:14.240 issue here is that is the state legitimate when it prosecutes these policies for decades against

00:45:19.720 what we are told is the will of the public which is the fact that every every election since 1997

00:45:26.340 people have voted for a reduction or reversal of mass migration have got the opposite.

00:45:32.960 Yeah, the legitimacy of the state, if the social contract, if something like that ever existed,

00:45:39.360 but nonetheless, completely and utterly broken down.

00:45:43.120 I mean, there's one last story here I wanted to bring your attention to or get your take on it.

00:45:48.780 In, where was it? I think it was in, yes, in Sky News today.

00:45:52.800 Go on with the story

00:45:54.820 Look at this

00:45:56.180 Who are the nationalists behind Restore Britain Growth?

00:45:59.760 Oh, D

00:46:00.440 Neither you nor I got a name drop

00:46:04.920 But some of the people we know certainly did

00:46:07.040 Callum Barker, they tried to have a proper old Callum Barker

00:46:10.020 I like Callum Barker

00:46:11.780 Yeah, I'll make sure there's no audio on this

00:46:14.120 But yeah, they're wringing their hands about nationalism

00:46:16.760 And or

00:46:17.480 Horror of horrors

00:46:19.360 Ethno-nationalism

00:46:20.720 heaven forbid there's one or two people that might have espoused ethno-nationalist principles

00:46:25.680 that are also members of restore britain so yeah this like seven minute hit piece

00:46:30.300 they've literally got a few wets like a few a few pathetic look look at these sacks of porridge

00:46:37.100 worried about nationalism i mean and it's just it's just a pure hippie all it does really

00:46:43.180 without examining the tenets the the concepts just saying that nationalism and certainly

00:46:49.400 ethno-nationalism is just evil it's just evil and bad and you basically you can't have an in-group

00:46:55.880 preference you can't have a tribe of your own everyone else in the world can have a tribe

00:46:59.960 you can't we can't and this is sky news this is sky news and yet at the same time we'll moan about

00:47:06.980 we'll moan about the invasion from small boats and all that sort of thing i mean what's your

00:47:11.420 thoughts and feelings frank when you when you get attacked as we all have or when you see just

00:47:16.120 general purpose hit pieces on restore and rupert and charlie downs and on and on and on how do you

00:47:21.680 feel about what's your thoughts and feelings on that stuff uh speaking in terms of grand strategy

00:47:27.180 in the future you it's basically an argument between the remnants of globalism and nationalism

00:47:31.620 and that's an extra bill you can't stop it so basically the international liberal

00:47:35.540 it's it's dissolving the globalist system is dissolving you can see that its policies are

00:47:42.100 being litigated in real life by ordinary people basically your money's worthless you can't afford

00:47:46.540 anything nothing works we've got millions and millions of people who shouldn't be here and

00:47:52.020 they're not really improving our lives are they to say the very least and that's that's the same

00:47:56.160 across the western world and so that argument is being made in reality you have the remnants of

00:48:02.120 globalist systems like the suppression of nationalist parties in in europe and probably

00:48:06.320 here as well by intelligence agencies like the cia whose role it is to maintain the globalist

00:48:11.340 or internationalist status quo, I might add.

00:48:13.900 And that's why they do that.

00:48:15.620 And that's why you have these kind of terrible media attempts

00:48:18.400 to just basically smear and demonise anyone

00:48:20.980 who calls for sanity and the restoration of order

00:48:24.180 and dignity to our people,

00:48:25.760 because it is a matter of dignity as well.

00:48:28.000 And if you talk seriously about the legitimacy of the state,

00:48:30.640 which we do, that's terrifying to them

00:48:32.660 because they're not legitimate,

00:48:34.220 because they have abandoned their duties,

00:48:36.100 because the state is not discharging its duties

00:48:38.180 to provide security, prosperity and meaning to your life.

00:48:41.240 And so those things are very serious. And it doesn't matter what they really say in terms of that, in terms of halting the procedure, because they can never bring their power back because it's over. It's finished. The liberal international moment is over.

00:48:54.880 And what we're going to get next is an argument between its remnant factions whose careers, livelihoods, fortunes depend on defending that discredited international death machine against the revival of things like religion, the consciousness of a people, their history, their dignity, their autonomy, their sovereignty, and their right to their own homeland.

00:49:17.680 and we were told by the internationalists the globalists the liberals that none of these things

00:49:22.600 mattered anymore and that man was simply a function of the market to be managed more

00:49:27.060 efficiently and satisfied with consumer goods is very similar to bolshevism which again was

00:49:32.280 atheist and materialist and said that there was no meaning other than the meaning supplied by

00:49:36.980 its own ideology well all that's finished now and these things are roaring back into life in europe

00:49:42.800 in britain in america elsewhere across the west and it can't be stopped so basically all they've

00:49:47.900 got left is to smear you by telling you that because you're sane and you dare to be sane in

00:49:53.200 public you are a terrible person now if you i mean look if you meet calen bark he's lovely

00:49:58.560 it's very difficult to maintain that impression in reality he is actually a very nice person

00:50:03.960 and i might add i i encourage him to continue to to uh to cultivate that mullet of his because i

00:50:10.900 think it looks dashing he started a mullet this is new to me yeah yeah business out front party

00:50:17.460 in the back just try and check those photos yeah not that i would go for that myself but i think

00:50:22.820 it looks very good on him i think you're quite right that um the new paradigm i mean either way

00:50:29.020 we're talking relatively low resolution but the new paradigm is less left and right and more

00:50:34.240 globalist and anti-globalist or globalist and nationalist wherever you want to put and if we

00:50:38.960 you want to say however you want to phrase it and that the other thing that uh fukuyama he said

00:50:45.160 fukushima there fukuyama said in the 90s that history is over it's the complete and utter full

00:50:50.680 spectrum dominance of western liberal democracy and in that sense history is is finished it's

00:50:56.500 like history will decide when it's finished not you how did he find it he said he said that

00:51:03.460 democracy was basically the combination of periodic elections and the access to cheap consumer goods

00:51:07.980 and that's the panacea that's that's human that's the human project finished with done

00:51:13.880 that's the final product you don't need anything else as for to return to the opening of the

00:51:18.600 program when you said what's the point or rather why we interest the americans or am i i mean like

00:51:22.660 if you look at the american national security strategy that was published uh the latest one

00:51:27.240 that was published in the rubio um what that basically is is a nationalist manifesto it's

00:51:32.080 saying that america's going to work in the national interest and it's going to seek

00:51:35.100 allies in Europe and elsewhere who do the same. And so this is basically a statement saying that

00:51:41.360 United States is no longer leading the internationalist, liberal or globalist project.

00:51:47.320 And instead, it's looking to seek the fortunes of its own nation and its people and so on.

00:51:53.240 And that's a significant shift. That's a break with the entire post-war settlement.

00:51:57.940 That's certainly a break with the unipolar madness of the post-Soviet era, which, if you ask me,

00:52:04.260 was a victory by default not the fukuyama moment of this intoxicating belief in free market consumer

00:52:10.440 trash and pantomime elections but it's simply the fact the soviet union failed first and the

00:52:15.960 liberal system is failing now and so what are you going to do next you've got to realistically talk

00:52:20.820 about what does that mean in terms of a coherent policy an international and national strategy for

00:52:26.540 survival and hopefully to promote human flourishing in place of various industries of monetized mass

00:52:33.140 destruction and misery all that seems very very uh reasonable and insightful but what you might

00:52:40.400 be forgetting harry bring up the thing what you might be forgetting frank is that evil

00:52:46.300 racists and bigots like calen barker exist look sky news is telling us oh yes sorry yes i did look

00:52:51.840 he's trying to stand up for the community the native community in epping forest evil though

00:52:57.960 isn't it pretty pretty despicable behavior look trying to do right by your own country

00:53:03.880 where does he get off the chutzpah oh no oh no report that splash that over national news

00:53:14.720 he's litter picking shame on him

00:53:18.520 okay frank it is now gone 10 to 9 so i'm going to have to draw it to a close there

00:53:26.580 if you can I know you're going I think you mentioned you're going away over the next week

00:53:30.920 or two so I hope you enjoy that but when you're back let me know and I'd love to have a much

00:53:35.620 like have a long longer form conversation about a lot of the things we've been talking about here

00:53:41.000 I'd be delighted thank you for inviting me back yeah I'm going to go to Fatima on Friday for a

00:53:48.260 Catholic conference in Fatima so I'll be away there for a week but when I come back I will

00:53:53.340 will inflict myself upon you again thank you for being so kind to me great and of course if and when

00:53:58.780 you ever do come down to the west country sunny wheelchair not very sunny this morning um you are

00:54:04.200 welcome here in person anytime you like on the podcast whatever you like so we'll get we'll get

00:54:08.380 that sorted out for you okay again thanks very much for your time frank appreciate it thank you

00:54:14.640 again cheerio for now there you go frank right there there you go you're welcome

00:54:23.400 that was a fascinating uh little conversation there i would like to pick his brain i'd like

00:54:29.300 to drill down into a number of things he said there uh but okay we have got to move on because

00:54:34.640 it's uh nearly five two so we did a poll though didn't we we did a poll uh harry if you bring

00:54:41.500 the poll up for me what did we what did we put here okay over a thousand votes we asked you

00:54:45.420 oh i asked you i came up with this one this morning it says uh who do you think will be

00:54:50.480 the next republican presidential candidate and you can only put four options in these polls

00:54:55.560 and there's more than four big beasts aren't there in the republican party

00:54:58.960 so anyway i gave you the option of jd vance marco rubio ted cruz and rand paul there's a way there's

00:55:08.960 Probably much better options than that.

00:55:10.800 But anyway, looks like J.D. Vance has easily won it.

00:55:15.360 Team Vance is easily out ahead with 53%.

00:55:17.920 Rubio on 34%.

00:55:20.060 Little old Teddy Cruz only managed 4% there.

00:55:24.240 And Rand Paul only got 5%.

00:55:26.060 Do you know who I like?

00:55:29.020 John Kennedy.

00:55:31.620 Not the dead one from 1963 on Dealey Plaza, Nightmare on Elm Street.

00:55:37.620 No, the modern-day senator for Louisiana, John Kennedy.

00:55:41.260 I don't know if he'd ever want to do it.

00:55:42.660 I don't know.

00:55:43.140 I don't know.

00:55:43.700 But I like him.

00:55:45.100 I think he's really good.

00:55:46.080 If you know him, if you've ever watched various committees that he's in,

00:55:50.180 I think he's good.

00:55:51.520 He seems like a sort of a proper patriot type dude.

00:55:55.220 I like him.

00:55:55.740 But there's quite a few more other big beasts it could be, couldn't it?

00:56:01.320 You know, even someone like, dare I mention Chris Christie?

00:56:05.940 No.

00:56:06.160 No, no, no.

00:56:07.620 It seems like, anyway, that there's momentum behind Vance, isn't it?

00:56:12.000 I mean, maybe it's the obvious choice in history.

00:56:15.320 It's not always the case, not by a long chalk.

00:56:18.420 It's not always the case.

00:56:19.240 But very often, vice presidents do get the ticket next, don't they?

00:56:23.520 I think when you go back and look historically more often than in recent years,

00:56:28.200 recent decades.

00:56:29.180 But nonetheless, do you think it's J.D. Vance?

00:56:33.940 Okay, well, you do.

00:56:35.240 You do.

00:56:35.760 more than half of you think it would be and it's over 1100 votes now so okay that was our poll for

00:56:41.580 today that was our poll all right let's do on this day in history i've got to do more recordings

00:56:46.580 again so i can't be here to sort of half past or quarter to quarter to uh 10 so let's look at this

00:56:53.300 day in history the 5th of november remember remember the 5th of november guy falk's day

00:56:57.600 so first of all we've got um in the year 1492 when christopher columbus sailed the ocean blue

00:57:02.820 So he, Christopher Columbus, learns how to grow and harvest maize,

00:57:07.160 which the rest of the world call corn, from Cuba's indigenous population.

00:57:11.480 Did he? He didn't know how to plant things.

00:57:16.300 Corn isn't that difficult. It's not like a specialist plant, particularly.

00:57:22.720 The indigenous people of Cuba taught Christopher Columbus

00:57:25.500 how to put seeds in the ground, did they?

00:57:28.420 All right. On this day in 1556, the Second Battle of Panipat, where I don't know much about this, a Hindu emperor was defeated and killed by a Mughal emperor, Admiral Akbar, sorry, Emperor Akbar of the Muslim Mughal Empire.

00:57:49.920 Who finally liberated the Hindus from the Mughals in the early 19th century, late 18th century?

00:58:00.400 Sir Arthur Wellesley, who goes on to become the first Duke of Wellington.

00:58:05.020 You're welcome, Hindus. You're welcome.

00:58:10.420 Okay, next thing, on this day in 1605.

00:58:13.800 Oh, here we go. Catholic conspirator Guy Fultz attempts to blow up King James I.

00:58:19.920 the son of Mary, Queen of Scots, and the British Parliament in the Gunpowder Plot.

00:58:25.660 The plot is discovered, and Guy Fawkes is caught, tortured, and later executed,

00:58:29.420 along with seven others, celebrated ever since as Guy Fawkes Day.

00:58:33.000 His effigy is traditionally burned on a bonfire, accompanied by fireworks.

00:58:37.820 On my own history-themed show, Bode's Epochs,

00:58:44.640 a body of work, literally, and quite without exaggeration,

00:58:46.800 hundreds and hundreds of hours of history-themed content

00:58:48.800 built up a body of work built up over more than five years closer to six years

00:58:52.100 on my series my intermittent series on the english monarchy all the way from all the way

00:58:58.420 from alfie the great all the way up to well arguably all the way from roman britain all

00:59:02.780 up to i'm now doing queen elizabeth the first so i'll get up to james james is next next up to bat

00:59:09.100 after queen good queen bess if you didn't know it's james the first um so it won't be long it'll

00:59:15.300 be a few weeks until i'm talking about i'll talk of course we'll talk about the gunpowder plot

00:59:20.660 um so yeah only in a few weeks i'll be talking all about all about that

00:59:24.980 guy folks it was a it was a catholic thing for us because james james was a proddy you see

00:59:30.660 he was a scottish protestant and uh there was still a strong catholic movement

00:59:36.980 catholic sympathies in england at that time it's not that long is it only like two generations

00:59:44.340 arguably three at most, since Henry VIII broke with Rome.

00:59:49.500 Henry VIII broke with Rome in, what, the 1530s, the mid-1530s.

00:59:55.320 So, well, it is a good 60, 70-odd years later,

00:59:58.880 but nonetheless, Catholicism didn't just disappear.

01:00:03.600 Anyway, it's a fascinating thing.

01:00:05.440 We'll go on about it in detail when I come to it on Epochs,

01:00:09.000 Bode's Epochs.

01:00:09.840 OK, on this day, 1937, Adolf Hitler informs his military leaders

01:00:13.220 in a secret meeting, well it wasn't that secret was it, of his intention to go to war. I'm not

01:00:18.580 sure where they're getting this from on this, sometimes this site is questionable, I've caught

01:00:23.380 them out a few times or something that's just wrong or a massive spin. What war? Not World War

01:00:28.580 II, there's no what we call now World War II. Talk about war with Poland, war with the Sudetenland,

01:00:38.180 Czechoslovakia or something. Where are they getting that from? Is that from Spears inside

01:00:44.400 the Third Reich? It's interesting they don't put any sort of footnote or anything further

01:00:52.320 on that, exactly what they're talking about there. What meeting? Exactly, though. What

01:00:57.520 one? Who? What military leaders? What ones are you talking about, exactly? All right.

01:01:05.600 On this day, 1956, Britain and France land airborne forces at Port Said in Egypt, escalating the Suez Crisis.

01:01:12.680 I haven't done any long-form content on the Suez Crisis.

01:01:15.200 I probably will at some point.

01:01:15.980 But what I have done is, not full long-form, but like a 20-minute, half-hour video on state of politics.

01:01:22.840 State of politics.

01:01:24.120 My other channel I've got with Nate.

01:01:25.720 Go to the Staincam, Harry.

01:01:29.800 State of politics.

01:01:31.200 I've done a long, well, half-hour long video there about Anthony Eden.

01:01:35.040 all about Anthony Eden there so if you want me talking at least in some detail about

01:01:40.240 about the Suez crisis you can check that out it's a very interesting

01:01:45.280 bit ignominious but interesting episode in English British history and French and Israeli

01:01:53.680 and Egyptian it's an interesting thing and American Ike Ike wasn't happy that we didn't

01:01:58.960 tell him we were going to do it and then refused to back us up after the fact thanks Ike

01:02:05.040 That's Dwight D. Eisenhower, the President of the United States I'm talking about there.

01:02:09.420 Not Ayk out of South Park.

01:02:10.920 Okay, and the last one here.

01:02:12.260 In 1979, the Supreme Leader of Iran, the Ayatollah Khomeini, describes the United States as the

01:02:17.820 great Satan amid accusations of imperialism and the sponsoring of corruption.

01:02:22.960 There you go.

01:02:26.160 The Ayatollah Khomeini, according to Frank Wright, has done nothing wrong.

01:02:29.040 Whoa!

01:02:30.040 Whoa!

01:02:31.040 I misrepresent him there.

01:02:32.040 He's not here to defend himself.

01:02:33.040 That's not fair.

01:02:34.040 there i wonder if you're still watching frank i'm only mucking about i'm only mucking about mate

01:02:43.880 or maybe you would argue he hasn't done anything at all wrong but anyway

01:02:48.360 because what the the uh the iranian revolution is much earlier in the year in 1979 isn't it

01:02:53.560 it's beginning the year it's like february or something so by the end of the year yeah

01:02:58.680 the great Satan okay all right let's now look at our rumble rants and super chats let me do this

01:03:05.520 with my mic boom so I can see the left hand side of my screen all right let's have a look at the

01:03:10.260 rumble rants first that's what we always do first the completely uh arbitrary system I've made up

01:03:15.240 for myself on the bow show global church history is in at number one and still reigning defending

01:03:20.840 it's great to have global church history back isn't it isn't it we always gives us a couple

01:03:27.300 of factoids what have we got here then you say today in 1362 ad the romani stroke gypsies were

01:03:34.540 first documented on the adriatic coast and you put in brackets their first definite mention in

01:03:40.020 england was 1512 i thought that that that people that tribe whatever you want to call it was much

01:03:50.840 older than that but um if you say so the first ever documented oh okay perhaps you're saying

01:03:56.920 the first time they're ever documented on the adriatic coast not the first time they've ever

01:04:00.900 documented okay that's an interesting note anyway interesting note and then the second

01:04:07.220 factoid you've got for us is you say in 1688 william iii landed at brixham so that's william

01:04:15.020 of orange that one william of orange of william and mary fame who uh it's the glorious revolution

01:04:24.440 isn't it 1688 when parliament said talk about james ii we don't we don't want the stewarts

01:04:32.000 anymore we don't want catholic stewarts ruling over us anymore on your back we're going to get

01:04:38.480 over the first protestant we can find well no that's not fair that's super no resolution that's

01:04:43.000 not how it went. But we got a Protestant in waiting in the person of William of Orange

01:04:48.360 from Holland. You're up. William, it's your turn to come be King of England. Could you

01:04:57.100 characterise that as us being conquered by the Dutch? I wouldn't, but some have. You

01:05:01.960 could say that in a sense, couldn't you? But then the Stuarts are Scottish. The Tudors

01:05:08.980 were Welsh. Antigenots were French. It's been a long time since you have a proper English

01:05:17.800 king. Proper English king. It's called the Saxe-Coburg Gothers. German. All right. Fortean Barber

01:05:30.200 says, Morning mate. All right. I'm all right. Ta. Good. Yeah, I'm fine. Thanks. I'm glad

01:05:34.820 you are then you put i can confirm that the breakfast with bow mug is high quality yeah

01:05:40.040 oh yeah proper high quality yeah proper mug that you put everyone should get something from the

01:05:48.420 store you're doing my job for me and i appreciate you thank you i'm shilling the merch store yeah

01:05:52.700 go to the merch store um yeah buy some buy some merch buy a boat bow show t-shirt um so everyone

01:05:59.500 should get something from the store keep the lights on there frank was a good guest yeah frank's very

01:06:03.380 very interesting person very very interesting person i couldn't say i agreed with every single

01:06:08.320 take he said there i mean quite obviously i didn't but fascinating fascinating person very well read

01:06:13.380 there's no doubt his knowledge is extremely deep isn't it okay next one up here smoky bongo

01:06:21.100 that's what this person's called him smoky bongo i'm with a relatively general super chat as well

01:06:26.420 it's new that name doesn't ring a bell with me so thanks smoky bongo you've put you've put

01:06:31.400 Morning, Beau. All right. I'm all right, thanks.

01:06:34.380 Good. Good stuff.

01:06:35.460 How much of an influence do you think Nick Fuentes had on the election results?

01:06:41.020 It would be interesting to see the exit polls broken down by age and race.

01:06:44.880 Well, of course, I know who Nick Fuentes is.

01:06:47.640 And I saw his interview. I saw him on Tucker. I saw him on Piers Morgan.

01:06:51.320 And extra to that, I've watched probably all in all over the years in little bits,

01:06:58.040 maybe an hour or two

01:06:59.960 in total, in grand total

01:07:02.000 worth of Nick Fuentes. So in other words

01:07:03.940 what I'm saying is, I don't watch Nick Fuentes

01:07:06.260 much at all. I've watched a bit

01:07:08.160 of his content, but I certainly

01:07:10.180 don't follow him. Don't keep

01:07:11.920 tracks on his latest take

01:07:14.040 or anything like that.

01:07:16.540 So I have to say that first and

01:07:18.100 foremost. I must say

01:07:19.820 most of what I've seen of him

01:07:21.460 seems pretty reasonable and based.

01:07:26.420 But as I say, I've only

01:07:28.020 watched a relatively small amount so it would be unfair i think for me to completely pass judgment

01:07:33.300 on the kid say kid he's a great man uh but um it was terrible when someone came around his house

01:07:40.120 with a gun remember that that's ridiculous that's terrible nobody deserves that um what effect he

01:07:47.200 actually had on the election result i i don't know i don't know enough about it he's more sort

01:07:52.360 of in the u.s zoomer sphere are more the uk millennials

01:07:56.520 no or not even millennials more like gen gen x's

01:08:02.120 so yeah anyway anyway i don't know why he's being particularly was because i was about to say i don't

01:08:14.060 know why he's been massively demonized but i do know we all know right all right okay the next two

01:08:22.100 are from big pig dog 5150 who says susie wiles is a vile and disgusting traitor oh tell us what you

01:08:28.240 really think susie wiles is a vile and disgusting traitor says pig dog 5150 uh she has blocked 1.00

01:08:36.700 people from stopping the persecution of eight of of amish farmers farmer companies big food 1.00

01:08:45.520 and farmers from free trade absolute scum well if all those things are true that is pretty

01:08:51.800 scumbag behaviour, isn't it?

01:08:54.020 The next one

01:08:55.880 seems like it's also about Susie Wildes. She says,

01:08:57.640 Trump not firing Susie Wildes.

01:08:59.500 You think, why? Wildes.

01:09:01.620 You think she's not going to, he's not going to fire

01:09:03.720 Susie Wildes. Todd Blanche

01:09:05.960 and other deep state filth

01:09:07.320 proved

01:09:08.720 to me early on that Trump hadn't learnt

01:09:11.800 from his first term and

01:09:13.480 that he was doomed.

01:09:15.560 Trump is a fool, moron, failure.

01:09:17.800 it's pig dog 5150 you know the MAGA crew will be a noddy oh why are you suffering from trump

01:09:26.580 derangement syndrome bro oh you've got acute trump derangement syndrome bro

01:09:32.020 yeah i stopped caring about that a while ago any criticism of trump and you've got trump

01:09:39.360 derangement syndrome don't think so no don't think so okay dragon lady chris the final uh

01:09:45.320 the final remember right here from dragon lady chris says well to be fair the actual heir was

01:09:51.000 mary the second oh we're talking william of orange you're bouncing off the william of orange thing

01:09:55.080 okay cool you put well to be fair the actual heir was mary the second yeah quite right uh william's

01:10:00.440 wife yeah he merely married her that's yes that's right but he became king didn't he not just royal

01:10:05.640 consul he became king he refused to be a mere prince console oh sorry preempted what you've

01:10:13.320 have just said that so that's right that's right it was mary is the is the the the heir the regnal

01:10:20.920 heir legally and he was merely her husband but as you've said and you know he did because he was

01:10:29.260 made full king and uh well the whole point of it though wasn't it was that parliament

01:10:34.700 the ultimate cockpit of power

01:10:37.540 who sets

01:10:39.500 policy, national policy

01:10:41.640 foreign policy even, would be

01:10:43.420 Parliament, not the

01:10:45.420 Crown

01:10:45.740 that was sort of the deal

01:10:48.600 William of Orange or Mary is not

01:10:53.300 deciding who England is or isn't going to

01:10:55.380 go to war with, not exactly anyway

01:10:57.300 I mean he'd have a say, the King still had

01:10:59.420 a say in all those things for centuries more

01:11:01.440 but

01:11:02.500 far from an absolute monarch far from the type of monarch that um that james the first was

01:11:12.720 or henry the eighth was or charles the first tried to be far from that far from that by that

01:11:19.280 point you know sounds like you already know okay that's the last run around let's have a look at

01:11:23.700 the youtube ones okay we've got 20 or so a dozen or more let's rip through them whip through them

01:11:31.880 So, we've got LJMV, I think you were first in yesterday, weren't you?

01:11:35.300 So, and still reigning defending LJMV.

01:11:39.800 You put, Bo, Frank, you magnificent men.

01:11:44.520 Thank you.

01:11:45.600 You put, why isn't Frank hired by Restore doing interviews and debates against the other parties?

01:11:51.360 He should be a spokesperson.

01:11:54.720 A fair question.

01:11:56.460 He's very eloquent, isn't he, Frank?

01:11:58.740 Frank is a very, very eloquent person.

01:12:00.680 he's got the arguments at his fingertips that's up to the leadership at restorer i have nothing i

01:12:06.140 have no input on any of that i'm merely a member at this point okay the next one is also ljmv who

01:12:13.440 says europe needs europe needs not move away from the u.s the demographics are doomed elon musk

01:12:21.820 elon musk needs to create his own hollywood and media the left only at the moment that would be

01:12:27.540 nice. Yeah, if I was Bill Gates rich or Elon Musk rich, I would consider trying to start

01:12:36.260 a movie studio, you know, where $10 billion isn't too much of a big deal. Even $100 billion

01:12:47.660 you could stretch to. Maybe start a studio and pump out based patriotic nationalist films.

01:12:57.540 It'd make a world of difference, couldn't it?

01:13:02.880 I think it would.

01:13:05.720 Fight them at their own game.

01:13:09.520 Pro-white films.

01:13:12.160 High-budget films.

01:13:15.580 Yeah.

01:13:16.900 It's far from a ridiculous idea.

01:13:20.580 Yeah.

01:13:21.160 Okay.

01:13:23.800 Liminal

01:13:24.400 nemius

01:13:27.240 i don't know how you want that pronounced i think that's right liminal nemius says

01:13:32.820 bows britain for a britain done right and he spelt right with a w like frank right

01:13:39.040 bows britain for a britain done right quite like that slogan it's quite good okay uh bob

01:13:48.520 bob bob 16496 tht says as an american this is the uk version of zero seats for conservatives

01:13:58.800 we want america first not slow decline we are behind you guys but we are close yeah like tatum

01:14:05.860 superfan tatum uh said that and i get it i get the i get the concept i do i absolutely get it

01:14:11.700 You're punishing Trump and MAGA.

01:14:15.360 Yeah, I understand.

01:14:18.000 Okay, the next two are from Emily for Restore,

01:14:22.080 who says, Frank's hatred of Israel is breathtakingly myopic.

01:14:27.740 Frank, you've had the gauntlet throw down at you there.

01:14:33.380 Emily for Restore is not impressed.

01:14:36.540 The next one, she says,

01:14:37.980 millions of iranians are pro-us war anti-irgc i think that's also true that's that's true isn't

01:14:46.380 it i think that's true as i'd love to drill down with frank about well a number of things he said

01:14:53.340 today on the show but perhaps just iraq just the history of persia and the um the iran iraq war

01:15:00.320 uh the iranian revolution drill down with some data points that would be interesting to see

01:15:07.980 i mean there's loads of things he's a type of person isn't he like um i don't know like apostolic

01:15:13.180 majesty or like tom rosell or godfrey bloom where you could just talk and talk and talk

01:15:19.820 he's the the depth of his knowledge is it feels bottomless so you're like well what about this

01:15:24.540 what about that what's your opinion on this what about that you don't have to agree with

01:15:27.660 him on absolutely everything everything is but uh it's fascinating fascinating i do agree with

01:15:32.860 with him on most stuff okay next one is ljmv again who says the left get a constant backing

01:15:41.600 from billionaires when are the right going to get funding instead of the old boomer attitude

01:15:47.280 of pull yourself up yeah well i was seeing a sort of story this morning that apparently uh

01:15:56.720 SpaceX

01:15:57.440 stroke Tesla, so in other words

01:15:59.480 Elon Musk, did give something

01:16:01.500 like $450 million

01:16:03.000 to various Republican candidates in these last

01:16:05.600 midterms. Apparently that's

01:16:07.280 what one news story was

01:16:09.300 telling me this morning.

01:16:12.560 But yeah, why not

01:16:13.500 more?

01:16:14.300 Or more widespread?

01:16:17.940 Well,

01:16:19.180 different countries may well have different

01:16:21.380 laws about foreign investment.

01:16:23.320 Yeah, like the way George Soros seems to have funded various activist DAs,

01:16:32.700 district attorneys, in the United States.

01:16:34.700 Could there not be a right-wing version, equivalent of something like that?

01:16:39.420 George Soros' wealth is not a fraction of Elon's, is it?

01:16:49.120 Then it's his money to do what he wants with, isn't it?

01:16:50.700 Okay

01:16:52.620 Although Elon Musk isn't the only rich man in the world, is he?

01:16:56.360 You make a good point, LJMV

01:16:57.580 Alright, next one

01:16:58.460 Global Foot Job History

01:16:59.780 Says

01:17:01.900 Please ask Commissioner Gordon

01:17:06.820 If Batman has any ideas to stop the Democrats

01:17:09.400 Yeah

01:17:09.720 Batman

01:17:11.860 We need Batman

01:17:13.040 He'll save us

01:17:14.560 Tatum2733 says

01:17:17.500 If only Pat Buchanan wasn't 90

01:17:20.220 dream president

01:17:21.960 many of you want

01:17:22.960 Pat Buchanan

01:17:23.540 oh it's worse

01:17:24.680 oh it's worse

01:17:25.680 is he that old

01:17:27.280 is Pat Buchanan

01:17:27.820 that old now

01:17:28.580 didn't know he was

01:17:29.660 that old

01:17:30.200 he must be

01:17:31.640 he must be

01:17:32.960 he was 90

01:17:33.460 are you exaggerating

01:17:35.160 little Harry

01:17:36.780 just quickly google

01:17:37.860 Pat Buchanan age

01:17:39.020 be interested to see

01:17:39.940 if he is actually 90

01:17:40.980 ok

01:17:41.680 next one's

01:17:42.480 LJMV again

01:17:43.280 who says

01:17:43.780 white Americans

01:17:45.720 should move to Alaska

01:17:46.860 create a new society

01:17:48.400 while the mainland

01:17:49.700 land falls, the demographics are so screwed. I would say don't do that because there's

01:17:54.300 no point running away because it will just come for you there in Alaska. It's the argument,

01:17:59.800 oh, I'm going to leave Britain, I'm going to go live in Australia or somewhere, or Canada

01:18:02.820 or whatever, or rural Idaho or something, or Alaska. It's going to come for you there

01:18:07.520 though. Well, you've bought yourself a little bit more time, maybe, and in the meantime

01:18:12.800 you've sacrificed, you've given up on a whole swathe of your ancestral homelands in the

01:18:18.620 meantime. There's no point running away. I understand the sentiment, but there's just,

01:18:26.580 it will come to wherever you are. Okay. Penultimate one here today from James Leap Heavenhole

01:18:36.740 says, Thomas Knewet, don't know who that is, found a man in the Westminster Undercroft.

01:18:47.080 The man asked, have you got a light Mac?

01:18:51.620 Conviet answered, no mate, a dark overcoat.

01:18:54.580 I don't know what you're talking about.

01:18:55.560 Is that one of the other co-conspirators of Guy Fawkes?

01:19:00.080 Is that what you're talking about?

01:19:03.980 I think that's what you're talking about.

01:19:06.220 But did he really say, have you got a light?

01:19:08.280 He wouldn't have said, have you got a light Mac?

01:19:10.020 That's like someone from New York in the 1920s would say.

01:19:14.680 hey mac got a dime for a cup of coffee

01:19:18.420 no mate a dark overcoat i don't know if that's a joke or a real quote or what's going on

01:19:25.980 but um sorry about that i'll plead ignorance on that one okay and the last one here from

01:19:32.220 sam against goat lovers that's what he's called himself at sam against goat lovers all one word

01:19:37.620 he's put

01:19:39.020 Frank looks like Howard

01:19:41.520 from the Mighty Boosh

01:19:42.720 I watched a little bit of Mighty Boosh

01:19:45.860 but not loads

01:19:46.620 I can't remember who Howard is

01:19:49.320 from that, what Howard looks like

01:19:50.660 Little Harry, did you not look up Pat Buchanan?

01:19:54.280 I did yeah, he is 88

01:19:56.020 Oh he is 88, right

01:19:57.480 so not far off, knocking 90

01:19:59.500 Bring up Howard from the Mighty Boosh

01:20:03.460 I can't remember if that's

01:20:05.420 being nice to Frank

01:20:07.140 or that's really insulting I can't remember I remember some of my friends

01:20:12.840 though so mighty boost was brilliant and hilarious and they watched it

01:20:16.640 religiously others like myself was like yeah it's kind of funny it's not the

01:20:21.600 best thing ever so I'm funny oh oh right oh that guy that main guy okay that's

01:20:27.060 not that rude that's that's reasonably kind that guy's like a he's not a

01:20:31.620 preacher man remember him he's the same actor that was in Nathan Barley anyway

01:20:36.420 okay all right that's the show 20 parties now 20 past nine in the am greenwich meantime on guy

01:20:42.580 fawkes day the 5th of november in the year of our lord 2026 thank you for joining me without you

01:20:49.560 guys it isn't a thing really really appreciate it try and make the best of the day ahead if you can

01:20:54.340 if your time is your own try and make it count it's the most valuable thing you will ever have

01:20:57.480 is your time and it's finite try and make it count if you can i won't get too preachy you do you

01:21:02.900 Okay guys and gals

01:21:04.260 Until tomorrow morning then

01:21:05.380 Take care

01:21:32.900 Thank you.

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - November 05, 2026

Breakfast With Beau ｜ Thursday 5th November 2026

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