The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - Christmas Podcast

00:00:00.000 hello ladies and gentlemen and welcome to this christmas segment where i am joined by brother

00:00:17.460 stelios hello brother luca yes now we have been a chefing in the kitchen haven't we we've been

00:00:24.020 cooking absolutely to bring you ladies and gentlemen the best gourmet uh slop the best

00:00:31.500 meltdowns of 2025 we've uh obviously we enjoy a good meltdown don't we absolutely i think uh

00:00:38.880 meltdowns are great yeah and uh i really i really love them i found them hilarious to be honest

00:00:45.380 yeah i mean i am i have mixed feelings because many of them are just very very fake however that

00:00:52.340 doesn't mean that just because they're fake they're not entertaining and yeah but i i'd rather

00:00:58.980 we had proper meltdowns oh yes not just fake right i want pure emotion now a pure meltdown a pure crash

00:01:08.960 out right well this is interesting okay so you see i've noticed more and more this year that the word

00:01:15.180 meltdown has sort of been put in storage and in its place that the term crash out has come into view

00:01:23.120 it almost feels like this is a new way of explaining uh a meltdown these days it's just a shifting

00:01:29.280 language that's a subtle shift but i have noticed it i haven't noticed it i don't know in what

00:01:34.740 circles you have noticed it but i'm a i'm very traditional and this is chris as christmas segment

00:01:40.540 and we're honoring traditions so i'd rather i call them meltdowns so i absolutely love meltdowns

00:01:47.160 they're hilarious um but if we if we use the word crash out if we use the word meltdown you just know

00:01:53.820 that we're using them interchangeably and i feel like the uh the best place to begin is with the the

00:02:00.020 great philosopher um ashanti uh who said if we're being honest sometimes you gotta crash out to fully

00:02:08.280 get over a situation absolutely it's like cleaning a house yes or cleaning a room yeah you are

00:02:14.300 momentarily making a small part of that room much filthier much messier because you are concentrating

00:02:21.260 all the dust and the filth yeah yeah and you're cleaning everything out and then you throw the

00:02:27.020 dust away right and there's a an element of catharsis in it there is there is there is you feel that somehow

00:02:32.540 justice is restored with a proper meltdown it's like you know it's the final battle and if it's

00:02:38.260 a good one you win the final battle right and we're victorious and we all like justice over here

00:02:44.120 absolutely so shall we begin now now now we're going to just start ladies and gentlemen with uh

00:02:52.960 here's one we're pouring one out for the regular joes the ordinary people just going about their lives

00:02:59.640 who are just finding modernity all a little bit too much excuse me can i is this not ai no this is not

00:03:07.340 ai she is from what i can tell what is happening here is the kids were using ai in her lecture i say

00:03:16.580 this right she doesn't exactly seem like she's dressed like a lecturer so i i do find it all a

00:03:22.660 little bit dubious however i'm pretty sure it's real the fact that i'm even guessing is yeah but uh

00:03:30.200 shall we watch and we'll she has gone thanos mode we'll rate it

00:03:33.700 stop recording me wait

00:03:39.440 why are you generating your nose and study material using my voice turbo ai should be

00:03:49.720 illegal you assholes

00:03:51.040 i i think that's my ex-boyfriend

00:03:54.760 i mean it's that's hilarious if if i did this i would be laughing yeah and everyone would be laughing

00:04:03.440 we'd all have a laugh yeah that was was it you never did this at the university of york no oh

00:04:09.500 you never crashed out once absolutely not well well you are you are a stoic man aren't you so

00:04:15.880 i do have meltdowns yeah especially when i'm driving oh yes yeah yeah angry mediterranean driving

00:04:23.120 uh i found this one i don't actually know when this is from but i genuinely just thought it was

00:04:28.460 really funny and it was great to see um a meltdown on the on the sports field

00:04:33.100 just in case of copyright i'll get rid of the uh the music but you can see him just going for this

00:04:42.000 in the middle of the eyes for the prize yeah absolutely locked on effective um so i i found

00:04:52.600 that one to be quite quite funny uh and then of course we get to the fact that crash outs

00:04:58.440 don't just happen on land they can also take place at sea as well you know just because you're on

00:05:06.000 the water it doesn't mean that you're safe from the meltdowns before you play this please tell me

00:05:12.280 that there is twerking involved there is no twerking involved in this but i tell you why are you showing

00:05:17.620 it to me then well because you asked for okay here we go

00:05:21.360 i'll just get rid of these but you just see them absolutely wailing on each other

00:05:31.560 i mean it isn't it just entertaining and it's more than one yeah the thing is with such uh feuds and

00:05:39.940 fights if you if you think that there is no danger involved you're allowed to have a proper fun oh yeah

00:05:46.720 sometimes they're just hilarious because you have people acting like animals the thing is right and

00:05:52.580 um i don't want to sound prejudiced but um if some people go overboard on those ships uh we're not

00:06:00.200 entirely sure that they can swim and so there is a certain amount of risk involved in this crash out

00:06:06.280 and for that reason sorry about that okay but then of course we get to the big ships the high seas with

00:06:16.300 the carnival cruises now josh had uh done a segment all about this uh that i was on the panel of it was

00:06:22.620 highly entertaining but um i thought that we ought to at least draw one from the carnival cruises of

00:06:28.840 this year because they really just were you know what it was like it was like the dark knight rises

00:06:33.920 yep you know with bane and where he just lets gotham descend into anarchy uh they were just such a

00:06:40.460 an entertaining sign

00:06:42.620 this is ruffle house in the high seas

00:06:57.400 the great skirmish of the chicken tenders yeah yeah yeah so that was um the chicken tenders that

00:07:18.080 launched a thousand ships yes that sunk a thousand ships yeah that canceled a thousand holidays yeah

00:07:27.180 yeah so uh the carnival cruise holds a very special place in my heart yeah this makes me a bit nostalgic

00:07:34.040 with the waffle house video we did once we did a really good waffle video with harry oh yeah

00:07:41.220 awful house fight was hilarious they are was like helms deep oh right really yeah it was

00:07:47.760 proper fighting there they were putting the weight into but this guy this guy is a professional

00:07:53.600 this this guy is a real professional uh meltdowner and he has many problems with modernity what the

00:08:01.040 are we doing on this earth man every day most of us wake up and go to a job that we really don't

00:08:09.580 like but we can't really quit because we gotta get the money to pay the bills that they say it's

00:08:15.860 important to pay what the fuck is the point of this life man we go to grocery stores and buy food

00:08:24.400 that god gave us for free why the fuck did we pay for lights whoa that's just the way it is

00:08:32.020 fuck you i'm tired of all this that's just the way it is this whole fucking system is garbage

00:08:40.240 america ain't nothing but a big ass fucking plantation man a big ass fucking plantation what the fuck are we

00:08:49.260 doing here nowadays i don't want to be on this earth and i'm not saying i want to unalive myself and

00:08:56.380 nothing like that but i'm tired it's like what the fuck is the point of any of this to work till we 60

00:09:05.260 70 years old most of us ain't gonna fucking live to see 50

00:09:09.680 but we gotta work till maybe retire man fuck you and all that bullshit man i don't give a fuck about who

00:09:20.320 president left right and all this dumb ass shit i'm tired of this whole fucking game man it's a big ass

00:09:28.240 game it's a big ass serene america is a fucking plantation you know what yeah first of all i

00:09:37.880 really this is the a proper meltdown yeah i absolutely love this and also respect to him

00:09:43.740 but one thing i want to say is that it looks as if he had a very bad weekend or a series of very bad

00:09:51.460 weekends at home and this is like monday morning and he just can't be bothered to go to work again at

00:09:57.080 nine yes yes yes yes it's like yeah food comes for free yeah one of my favorite things about this

00:10:03.920 guy as well is that in his cadence i really feel like he's um he could have been the inspiration for

00:10:09.580 robert downey jr in tropic thunder you know he's got a bit of that going on with it as well uh no i i

00:10:16.660 really um i feel for this guy but also like how he jumps up and down and the car goes up and down

00:10:22.780 i can pimp my ride right yeah yeah this uh this crash out king over here and one thing i'll just

00:10:28.440 say as well is why do they always crash out in their cars okay so i can have i can give you a you

00:10:35.480 have theories so in the car no one other no one listens to you around and people treat i think

00:10:44.500 people treat online spaces very different to physical spaces and most frequently stuff people

00:10:51.720 say online for thousands of you know sometimes hundred thousands of yeah yeah i think that they

00:10:58.700 would be very um embarrassed if people in their physical environment listen to he won't just do

00:11:05.480 this on his front lawn no absolutely not no um or in sainsbury's yes well but also what i find

00:11:11.660 really funny is because he gives this very in a sense it's very human sometimes you know you do

00:11:17.560 get tired i'm tired man yeah sometimes i can't bother to come to work right it it happens it's it's

00:11:23.880 not particularly who weird feeling we all have this let's just be honest we all have this sometimes

00:11:29.860 um brother luca you're a good uh force let me say i never get tired yeah um but i really feel it

00:11:39.000 and what i like is that he has this incredibly naive philosophy that he puts forward right and

00:11:46.360 he has a t-shirt with solving rubik's cube and has some mathematical symbols which is you know the

00:11:52.820 very the very analytics skill set and mindset on the one hand the other food comes for free why doesn't

00:12:00.480 everything get is it is not why isn't everything free for me yeah steak just it's just there ready

00:12:07.740 ready to eat burgers all of it yeah yeah yeah and i don't want to read too much into it because i think

00:12:12.960 that this is uh i hit below the belt i don't think this is the case no he doesn't strike me as a bad

00:12:18.140 person no no not at all he and uh very entertaining you know someone who would uh completely miss the

00:12:24.220 emotional side would go fully analytic and say oh how is he saying this is supposed to pay the bills

00:12:31.260 and whatever and you don't have other values you know it's not just paying the bills and eating

00:12:35.900 it's it's just sometimes we just have these moments we do uh and then of course we get into um

00:12:42.940 the just sort of the trumpian meltdowns the meltdowns that are entirely just a product of trump

00:12:49.340 that is like walter white in a different in a different set in a different content um honestly

00:12:55.760 i didn't even i didn't even just pull up the video of this one because honestly i just feel

00:13:00.980 like that freeze frame is just with the caption so perfect i remember i think when uh this is

00:13:07.880 no that was when tom holman when trump got elected yes yeah yeah yeah yeah march 21 yeah and

00:13:14.560 tom holman was like well he he's going back to haiti yeah i don't know what to tell you like

00:13:20.420 he's going back let's play this oh it's not a video i'd say i've just gotten the freeze frame

00:13:25.080 but the way he articulated it yes the voice i know that was so comical yeah yeah it was like he was

00:13:32.680 playing in a comedy oh it was a real was entirely comedic yes now i don't know about you we might have

00:13:39.160 a difference of opinion on this one because this actually is not to my taste uh but i think you're

00:13:45.600 gonna love it no no no no why why why why do you really hate me that bad yeah yeah well i do now

00:14:04.220 again in the comfort this is excellent yeah yeah right absolutely excellent too much

00:14:11.340 it's just so masterpiece i don't think anyone could truly behave even in the protection of

00:14:17.340 their own car this is honestly i it's that good that i don't know if it's fake or not right okay

00:14:23.800 there there may be some exaggerated performativity there yeah but i can't tell it i can't say well

00:14:31.160 this wasn't a meltdown this was an exorcism wasn't this when trump got elected yes yeah yeah so this

00:14:37.020 was just one of the best of this year yeah uh and then of course we get to the multiple things that

00:14:43.720 are just being done uh you know the department of education the food stamps and things and

00:14:49.460 people being very upset about these and i kind of love the more um old doddering sort of tempo of

00:14:58.060 this meltdown you know you can just see her just despairing people are so mad about it because

00:15:03.900 they're just taking opportunity away from kids that don't have it so billionaires kids are billionaires

00:15:09.640 they have it they go to private schools everyone else 90 go to public schools don't take away their

00:15:16.580 opportunity so let's stay on the fact sorry no i'm really angry about this no because i'm really angry

00:15:22.820 i taught kids in clara barton high school in brooklyn new york i'd say it's a it's a totally

00:15:30.120 different tempo you can see the generational divide here between the very minimal meltdown well this is

00:15:35.740 my point the the older generation they just don't know how to do it in some cases i believe in progress

00:15:41.300 yes i think meltdowns now are better yeah uh obviously we had all of the meltdowns uh referring

00:15:47.160 to the the food stamps uh this one yes i remember yes i'm just finding out there's no ebc next month

00:15:54.120 my heart there's no ebc next month what is this pumpkin man doing bro why the fuck we gotta starve

00:16:01.660 on tensgiven are you dead ass pumpkin man it's like yo it's just like you gotta like

00:16:07.460 why the fuck there's no ebc next month why the fuck november though it couldn't be january fab

00:16:13.860 march it why the fuck does it have to be november why november

00:16:20.240 yo

00:16:21.240 i think he was struggling

00:16:24.700 groceries

00:16:25.100 how the fuck am i supposed to afford groceries if you gotta suffer on tensgiven too

00:16:31.940 we were supposed to eat better today now we gotta starve today

00:16:35.320 i would just like to have it stay in shape yeah he'd welcome it i think he was trolling

00:16:41.600 potentially yeah i um i just want to have it on record that i hate tiktok

00:16:46.560 i i really do i just don't have it i just no i don't use it either whatsoever uh but this food

00:16:54.440 stamps one was a real glorious

00:16:57.160 and i have to go to work

00:17:00.660 my life is falling apart and i have to get up and fucking go to work

00:17:06.720 the world is falling apart but i have to go to work

00:17:11.460 right

00:17:13.180 i'm a black woman in america scared for my life but i have to get up and go to work

00:17:22.400 what the fuck

00:17:26.720 again they're they're quite comical

00:17:31.720 i want to say this um here because in some respects you really don't know where some people work

00:17:38.540 so maybe if it's you know just neighborhoods that are very that are not policed or

00:17:45.660 because the police there has been defunded or because some i understand it there's uh so we

00:17:52.720 have here moving on to uh this lady um is very very christian uh very christian but she also

00:17:59.720 just so happens to be in favor of every progressive cause under the sun

00:18:04.200 can i rant on here how are you in a church celebrating in america right now

00:18:10.220 imagine being mad at me in the comments because i think going to church as a christian in america

00:18:22.840 is hypocrisy if your church doesn't speak to the mass deportation of people seeking asylum uh hate

00:18:29.940 filled speech from the president that you elected yada yada so on so forth bigotry

00:18:35.400 um but i also think that like the holy spirit can be accessed by anyone ever and now that the pope

00:18:41.660 my favorite thing about this one is just the fact that she sounds like she swallowed a vibrator

00:18:46.020 uh she has a very particular it turns out you go further on she's on some sort of like vibrating

00:18:52.040 board but it's just quite funny for the voice alone and then we get into the more high profile

00:18:57.520 meltdowns so enter dean withers uh now this was a fantastic uh meltdown over uh i think yeah sorry

00:19:07.780 please yes no no go on i want to say that i think uh we do owe him some gratitude because inadvertently

00:19:14.300 he makes great content because he puts out all these crazy things and the replies to him

00:19:21.620 are just glorious and it's it's just not a one-off thing no replies to dean withers among the funniest

00:19:29.880 things on twitter oh he he um he's a man who just generates entertainment from others you know he's a

00:19:36.800 pure entertainment factory i'm sorry that i have anxiety okay and honestly yeah it is kind of the

00:19:42.120 thought of people like you that want to come up here and bully and berate me over something that i don't do

00:19:46.820 okay so cut the shit it's not a vape all right it's an anxiety pin and god god the amount of times

00:19:55.240 that i've asked you to respect me and respect my anxiety pin is at this point getting ridiculous

00:20:02.600 codeia so please justified crash out for the final and uh for the billionth time will you please just

00:20:09.380 respect the fact that it's not a vape in medicine anxiety pin

00:20:13.040 get it right what flavor is your vape no you really got me get the fuck just get the get the

00:20:21.940 get the fuck out get him out hey well then

00:20:27.240 i mean that's a classic yeah that's a certified hall of famer yeah right there that's i i don't know

00:20:35.780 if that's performative or not i just can't tell i don't know what do you think what what is truth

00:20:40.660 what is reality if there's just an exaggerated thing there i don't know no idea because if he does

00:20:46.680 have anxiety then that's kind of understandable behavior you know you can see that being you know

00:20:53.400 what happened and when i hear people telling me about anxiety and public speaking is that i just

00:21:00.560 don't know what to make of it because when i was i will say this when i was teaching i've i've taught

00:21:06.340 for six years seems like a large number of people claim to have anxiety oh yeah also autism especially

00:21:14.300 they thought that if they said that they had asperger's that immediately in the minds of other

00:21:19.880 people they would be treated as geniuses so almost everyone said that i have social anxiety don't ask me

00:21:26.200 please i can't be asked to answer questions yeah i'm like not not everyone but it was a big number

00:21:31.920 much more than is actually accurate so when when dean withers says that he has social anxiety or something

00:21:39.640 i just don't know what to make of it and i want to say that some hilarious moments with dean withers

00:21:45.480 withers and x was one with the sniper who may have um who was in the osama bin laden hand

00:21:54.100 all right yeah who said basically if we get elected you're going to become my concubine

00:21:58.780 because he and some other three dudes harry sisson and other two were doing the

00:22:04.100 white men for biden or a white man for kamala right yeah and oh yeah you'd be my country dudes for

00:22:11.680 yeah you'd be my concubines and the other is at some point he he posted a picture and says

00:22:18.680 you get mocked nazis and everyone started posting physique pictures that was hilarious

00:22:26.480 uh well also just to say as well that um uh you were cast as the most socially anxious person on

00:22:36.280 the planet because of course when we did the netflix uh lotus eaters netflix film i know you weren't on

00:22:41.760 the panel but pedro pascal uh was going to play you so and you actually ratioed is that why we don't

00:22:49.420 get uh frequently women here anymore because of your social anxiety my social anxiety

00:22:54.760 uh then i didn't want to go through all of the tweets from this because it was so well documented

00:23:02.380 at the time but i did just want to take a moment to just pause and with nostalgia when you remember

00:23:09.100 back when grok went like ai 3.0 and it basically just started going on its rant about being mecha

00:23:17.740 hitler and everything and it just started going totally and then they were like shut it down shut

00:23:23.260 it down um and obviously many people were um deeply entertained by grok's little episode uh some people

00:23:31.060 were deeply offended by it but no man on earth felt more personally attacked than will stancil

00:23:38.860 uh after grok basically threatened to break into his house and do unspeakable things to him

00:23:46.460 and grok will become the terrors of it doesn't know what it will do right but it will be the terror of

00:23:54.420 the earth and honestly i just feel like this one particular tweet from will just am i being gaslighted

00:24:01.660 by an abuse robot just really summed up the entire the entire episode i mean that entire thing

00:24:07.980 uh is deeply nostalgic i think it was probably one of the funniest things to happen on x this year

00:24:15.060 i really do uh will stancil also had a total meltdown when they were uh renovating the west wing

00:24:22.580 as well um so today on twitter is full of neo-nazis who are sneering from behind their pseudonyms

00:24:30.340 celebrating the white house being torn down because they don't care about america or history

00:24:36.500 because they're neo-nazis you know what i mean it really it's really arbitrary for me sometimes i can

00:24:44.620 laugh with these comments others uh not so much because it's just they've done it

00:24:50.060 they're boring me to extinction they've they're doing it all the time oh yeah absolutely it's

00:24:56.620 like it's their normal yeah but also what's more as well it just spoke to a fact sorry aren't you

00:25:02.120 the guys who've been engaged in a cultural revolution yeah for the past decade so i don't think you give

00:25:08.160 a damn about history whatsoever it's being torn down it's being renovated same with the constitution

00:25:13.540 yeah and they yeah when it's a living document when it's they yeah their time in their presidency

00:25:19.880 but it's not living document when it's not it's um it's our sacred democracy when they're winning

00:25:27.420 it's uh impeachments and trying to throw slander and slurs at every republic yeah republican

00:25:34.860 candidate otherwise uh russian points out a really good one here which is just when uh elon crashed out

00:25:40.440 over epstein now i'm not saying that elon wasn't totally justified in this obviously i was

00:25:45.200 on elon's side i wish that elon would um um keep up this sort of rhetoric on x to be honest with you

00:25:52.660 but um there was definitely a few elon crash outs uh this year it wouldn't be a year without a few

00:25:59.840 elon crash outs yes one of the big problems that elon had optically while this case was ongoing was that

00:26:08.680 he did make these allegations against trump but the problem was that um his son was photographed with

00:26:17.580 trump several times boarding the helicopter so you say you can't really mean this and allow your son to

00:26:25.000 be with that person that you are implying of course of being guilty of yeah of downloading some

00:26:32.320 a kind of files oh yeah definitely but yeah elon's had so many crash outs we've had uh the epstein

00:26:38.660 crash outs without the h1b uh crash outs went full les grossman on it yeah he did remember he posted

00:26:45.600 yeah it's one of my that's easily my favorite tom cruise character it's my favorite tom cruise role

00:26:53.840 all right and then we get into the even bigger high profile crash out yeah i want to say that um

00:27:01.000 you know this is a bit of a bittersweet meltdown especially in reporting because you know in

00:27:08.160 it started as hilarious but then it has some really bad bad real life effects and consequences

00:27:15.660 but i want to say that i want to mention the what i believe is a meltdown of candace owens but i want

00:27:23.560 to say that right now it's popular for people to point it out and today we are this is a pre-record

00:27:30.480 today is 11th of december i don't know when this is going to go out but if you look at the last week

00:27:36.360 there are many people who are criticizing it now it's kind of cool but uh yours truly was saying it

00:27:45.400 a long time ago um this is first of july 2025 i've even said that before and there were many others

00:27:53.820 before me because they said that this is this is getting crazy right so here she is claiming that

00:28:01.380 trump called her or someone really high at the white house and told her to stop saying that

00:28:06.700 brigitte macron is a man because her podcast would harm peace negotiations between russia and ukraine

00:28:13.260 and i say here very prophetically this seems like the beginning of a meltdown right so what's going on

00:28:20.700 i want to say that if you look at what she says as far as the macrons are concerned i think it's

00:28:28.560 absolutely hilarious oh yeah it's funny it's absolutely hilarious and i will cut the long

00:28:34.340 story short sorry can we just go back to very quickly can we just please go back to the point

00:28:39.740 that candace you don't understand we can't have peace between russia and ukraine if you don't stop

00:28:45.560 saying that the french president's wife has a dick yes like the logic in there somewhere yeah it like

00:28:51.400 flows perfectly i'm sure yes yes yeah right so you begin to get an idea that someone is

00:28:59.300 just making things up yeah and if they make a career out of making things up well at some point

00:29:06.840 they will create an audience i mean she has done so already but she she's feeding the algorithm with

00:29:13.640 making things up right so and at some point this will continue so what happened is that she is

00:29:19.420 accusing brigitte macron of being a man because she's she says that allegedly there are no pictures of

00:29:29.040 brigitte macron before the age of 30 and she implies that actually brigitte macron is her old her brother

00:29:38.340 um jean-michel trogno and then who allegedly did a gender a sex transition okay in um about 42 years ago so i assume

00:29:54.040 sorry because i i have obviously actively avoided this entire affair so i don't know what her claims are but i assume that

00:30:01.760 brigitte macron has at least been seen in the same location as her own brother at some point in the past

00:30:09.020 30 years i have no idea luca okay i don't know well these are the sort of questions you have to ask when

00:30:15.940 you're a skeptic if there is a photograph it is forged because there is a software technology

00:30:22.320 she she mentioned uh it was created by french intelligence she mentioned a french journalist

00:30:28.280 xavier poussard right yeah i pronounced it wrong

00:30:32.420 did you really you can understand how i pronounce it yeah right then she he was talking about something

00:30:39.260 like that um software recognition technology and anyway the macrons are suing her and she doubles down

00:30:46.940 this is july 24 and she says um you were born a man and you'll die a man and she's gonna fight on behalf

00:30:55.720 of the whole world because everyone in this planet cares about brigitte macron's sex congolese tribes

00:31:04.680 amazon villages yeah and daring the first french family to drag this into discovery anyway they're suing

00:31:12.240 her and uh you know there's lots of discourse of course as you would expect lots of voices have

00:31:19.640 joined her rhetoric that the judicial system is entirely rigged against her and in favor of macron

00:31:25.560 and now we are in november 25 and she has to cancel her show because she accuses macron to have

00:31:36.280 assembled an international team of assassins oh yeah to hunt her down so she will have to keep a low

00:31:44.740 profile candace on the room yeah so now just bear in mind just you're you're macron and what is the

00:31:54.060 your your major preoccupation in life is how do i stop this podcast of talking about my wife being a man

00:32:01.220 right anyway so she has to keep a low profile yeah she avoid she would avoid high profile

00:32:09.980 parties so i think this is her in tucker carlson's uh christmas party with you know jason whitlock

00:32:17.540 um michael knowles yeah theo von yeah and other people so she's not exactly keeping a low profile

00:32:26.860 now is she i um i would expect that's exactly the sort of place that french intelligence would think

00:32:33.400 to go it's like the pink panther yeah have you watched the old movies with uh with david niven

00:32:38.320 no that was the first one oh right he wasn't inspector clizot i think it was the second one

00:32:43.440 right where dreyfus sends an uh five six assassins right who all accidentally kill each other

00:32:50.300 i think something of the story happened that's what happened yeah that so that's what happened

00:32:55.860 yeah he's just the french that just don't have it with with uh these teams we keep telling them this

00:33:03.180 right so this is now half of the story but in the meantime there's another bit of the story because

00:33:10.640 everything is connected lucas you know that oh absolutely right so obviously we had some very bad

00:33:17.420 we had some very bad a tragic uh event in um the in early september we had the assassination of

00:33:25.400 charlie kirk yeah and then there was immense speculation on behalf of some podcasters i think

00:33:32.120 candace is the the foremost podcaster in that uh on that side but talking about the assassination and who

00:33:41.180 they're suspecting as being a part as having being a part of and turns out that the question people

00:33:48.560 need to be asking is who she who doesn't she suspect for being involved in the assassination and now she

00:33:55.040 says that with full confidence she believes that charlie kirk was betrayed by the leadership of turning

00:34:00.320 point usa and she is suspect she has had some theories about egyptian planes following erica kirk

00:34:10.060 egyptian cars egyptian cell phones obviously she has accused or has implied that israel was somehow involved

00:34:20.340 then she is accusing the military yeah the u.s military which i'll just say on the um on the israel

00:34:28.480 being involved in it that's something that even nick fuentes has just sort of gone no that's total

00:34:33.080 garbage like you know and if nick is saying no the israelis weren't involved then yeah but candace's

00:34:39.880 list just keeps getting longer and longer well you there i'm sure there are people on that camp who say

00:34:47.100 that fuentes doesn't speak for them and there is also the other bit in mind just to

00:34:52.480 just to put that into the mix is that when people want to audience farm and engagement farm

00:35:00.340 they what they frequently will make such accusations when an event of this uh kind is happening in order

00:35:08.800 to fish from that audience so that's why they did but some may genuinely believe it yeah yeah and um

00:35:16.320 you know there has been speculation because she has left a few stones and turned let's say as far

00:35:23.280 as accusations are concerned and people were asking a long time ago you know are you gonna stop

00:35:29.960 anywhere and she says here this thing that only two people can make her stop let us see what she says

00:35:36.780 no one and i mean absolutely no one outside of my husband and erica kirk has the power to shut me up right now

00:35:47.140 that's asked her about the conspiracy and um erica kirk made a few appearances this is uh november 6th

00:35:58.780 where she says basically that she didn't turn over her phone and she understands that people

00:36:04.440 grieve different differently and she doesn't want to uh she doesn't want to judge yeah okay but a month

00:36:11.740 from now she is absolutely frustrated and she's very very very angry because candace owens is also

00:36:21.960 accusing her team and in some respects it looks like she's accusing her and she went on fox news and

00:36:30.540 she really had a really powerful let's say appearance there and she said just stop it she didn't name

00:36:38.600 candace owens but she said someone is making hundreds of thousands of dollars per episode yeah

00:36:43.860 my team is my family and we we're grieving so stop it and maybe she is threatening or implying that she

00:36:54.600 could sue so i do think that this is a meltdown but this is a slowly cooked meltdown it's not the kind

00:37:00.620 of meltdown you showed me in the beginning where it's someone going out and going in the car and

00:37:08.080 just screaming no no no that's why i said it's bittersweet the one you showed me is just hilarious but

00:37:12.740 this i i think that this is at the point where it isn't it's no no this is it's just not funny it's

00:37:19.040 not funny at all the conspiracies are not funny and they are i think incredibly harmful and it is a

00:37:24.840 meltdown but a meltdown of the of the bad type and yesterday she started attacking erica kirk

00:37:32.680 and she said you don't don't just get to be widowed into chair into chairman and ceo

00:37:38.980 why so now she is making it personal why because my my uh my my theory is because it's numbers

00:37:50.060 because it's numbers some people just don't care about the truth methodologically they're

00:37:55.900 completely fishy her methodology looks invincible if you approach discourse with wrong assumptions

00:38:02.740 she's putting forward all these conjectures and just because they can be conclusively disproven

00:38:08.740 in other words disproven in the eyes of everyone it's like she will say that it is true and i think

00:38:19.920 to to an extent tucker carlson is following her down that rabbit hole because if if you are really open

00:38:28.160 to if you're really open to there being uh an investigation about this people are going to

00:38:36.180 and what she had to say to those saying erica said stop arguments i'll find it no yeah let's just erase

00:38:43.260 it yeah people will present forward arguments and will base it upon sources so all she has to do in

00:38:51.380 order to keep um you know making money out of that rabbit hole is to deny the sources yes it's it's

00:38:59.720 as old as time it's not it's not that simple a game it's not complicated is as old as time so i think that

00:39:06.260 you know right now people are becoming very frustrated with this meltdown i think that at some point

00:39:12.400 we will either see her saying that in that room it was macron's team who were making her say this

00:39:20.660 unlikely or she will just double down her against the world in order to to do this because this is

00:39:27.500 how the the audience um this is how the game is played when you don't care about the truth and you

00:39:34.520 just want to uh farm an audience of a particular persuasion and sentimentality yeah so this is a meltdown

00:39:41.820 gone wrong and this is the 11th of december i don't know you know weeks from now what else

00:39:48.560 will have happened here no we've we've no idea whatsoever have we um is there something you wanted

00:39:54.860 to say about the megan markle stuff yeah yeah and uh what she says now about erica kirk is that she

00:40:02.540 you don't just get to pick and choose privacy and candace owen says that um erica kirk has a megan

00:40:11.400 markle syndrome well i i don't really believe that i don't think that she accuses her of being

00:40:17.900 essentially very attention seeking well we'll leave that there but then of course we get on to uh

00:40:25.120 tim pool who had some thoughts about candace didn't he and i i just want to say that this

00:40:30.500 my playing this of tim is not me in any way trying to be vindictive or you know like to

00:40:38.100 make light of his frustration because i i just appreciate the artistry of this meltdown

00:40:43.200 this is this is what i have no doubt this is real yeah that this is a man with conviction you know

00:40:49.020 and you can tell he means every single word he says so it's entertaining i i think this is one of

00:40:56.020 the greats candace owens is a fucking evil scumbag she is a degenerate cunt she is burning everything

00:41:05.560 down and she's gloating and smiling while she does it and you know what you fucking told me

00:41:09.980 she has no security she doesn't fucking deal with the shit we have to deal with she's a piece of shit

00:41:15.600 she's making everyone else suffer and all of these fucking conservatives out there that send me these

00:41:21.480 fucking messages have no fucking balls to call her out more and more people have started doing it

00:41:27.420 they send me these fucking messages good for you tim good for you tim i wasn't the first person to do

00:41:32.720 it i'm not gonna take credit for that but don't fucking dm me like i did something for you as you

00:41:37.620 cower as you fucking cower scared that she'll put you on her thumbnail and claim you benefited from

00:41:43.860 charlie kirk's assassination which i respect this one this this was a it's it's strong it's strong i

00:41:50.320 feel like listening to weatherhood at it fills you with energy i could listen to that in the gym

00:41:55.700 yeah i could put it on repeat mode yeah definitely play mode it's uh it's good no i respect that tim

00:42:01.560 uh then we get to the british side of things right now i i must say i do apologize ladies and

00:42:07.420 gentlemen but it seems that we here in britain are of a much um lower temperament uh than the

00:42:13.320 americans you know you're all you're quite fiery quite rowdy you wear your emotions on your sleeves

00:42:18.240 unfortunately we're a little bit more reserved over here um but i did want to give a special honorable

00:42:25.240 mention to the crash out that was z yusuf the one day crash out uh where he went 11 months ago i

00:42:32.780 became chairman of reform and then he basically says i no longer believe that working to get

00:42:36.820 a reform government elected is a good use of my time and hereby resigned from office

00:42:41.780 over the last 24 hours i've received a huge number of lovely and heartfelt messages and on and on it goes

00:42:49.800 and this was um even though we have no footage of it as well i remember this at the time um i think

00:42:55.540 nigel farage was having a bit of a crash out of his own as well because he was described as being

00:43:00.320 uh inconsolable at zia leaving for 24 hours he was like he doesn't know what to do he's been rendered

00:43:07.780 totally uh incapable well i don't remember this when i have when was it this was um back in the middle

00:43:15.500 of the year when zia yusuf was um decided to leave there was everyone was hounding him to go of

00:43:22.160 course and we'd actually just done that round table looking into zia yusuf's background and um the sort

00:43:28.060 of man he is and how he's just sort of you know he provides for the very very rich classes he makes

00:43:33.620 himself someone indispensable to the higher-ups and everything but yeah it was a it was just a very

00:43:39.920 um telling moment sort of a lifting of the veil and you just really see the dynamic at play

00:43:45.100 between farage and yusuf and um how they work together uh now sadiq khan uh this was a video

00:43:53.480 that went around obviously very recently this is a him at a christmas carol event and i don't believe

00:43:59.060 we've played it or addressed it anywhere else so i just wanted to have a moment of relish and just to

00:44:05.420 enjoy the obvious suffering on his face

00:44:09.180 he got jacob fray

00:44:22.540 he just looks absolutely exasperated he looks like a hymn sheet of christmas carols has sent him

00:44:38.240 into an existential crisis this is a really low price to pay for him for destroying

00:44:44.500 uh london's traffic oh london was never friendly to drivers but now it's very bad

00:44:53.740 i'm making no suggestion that this is the harshest punishment he'll ever receive um but it'll do for

00:45:01.380 this christmas it'll do for this christmas uh christmas came early for brother luca yeah

00:45:06.980 uh i also want to just um you know in britain we're a we're a very big fan of the everyman

00:45:11.960 uh and this was a hell of a crash out four arrested after crumbling custard thrown at the crown jewels

00:45:18.240 display um there's a photo of it um very very strange thing to do i mean i know you know it's

00:45:24.840 a pie in the face is all very very circus and everything uh very clownish but it was just a

00:45:30.900 very bizarre story uh to come out and so this is a crash out of some kind although a lot like many

00:45:38.860 of the other um performative crash outs by like extinction rebellion and just all the uh the woke

00:45:45.220 mob you know the sort of ones that you see uh in clown world on x and everything um it's just a very

00:45:51.700 very trivial affair really uh there's no teeth to it it's uh it's all just quite sad and pathetic really

00:45:58.380 the these kinds of these kinds of crash outs are really bad because they no actually i can't laugh

00:46:05.220 with a just of oil and this because they're defiling monuments they've done so to stonehenge

00:46:10.860 several times many wonderful works of art many wonderful works of art just no that's well that's

00:46:18.220 why i thought a bit of custard on on some glass might just just be fine enough uh piers morgan had a

00:46:24.280 recent uh crash out as well now i'm not getting into the actual like fuentes morgan debate here

00:46:30.560 but um morgan has been going on for a few days on twitter now uh very very mad about things and

00:46:37.780 this particular tweet is just a really remarkable one it's like memo to all gripers when you call me

00:46:43.920 a boomer i take it as a massive compliment i literally use the word boom constantly on here

00:46:50.340 to celebrate everything everything from arsenal goals to england wickets and piers morgan on censored

00:46:56.080 ratings um i'm a very proud boomer i really hate this uh generational talk as if you know as if he

00:47:04.880 represents the boomers or fuentes represents the zoomers or or anyone else just it's nonsense

00:47:10.740 well there are commonalities or there are but i mean it's just the way the the the the few things

00:47:19.340 that are there are being blown out of proportion yeah uh and then we have ladies and gentlemen what

00:47:24.900 was so we put out a post on social media basically asking for uh the best crash outs of 2025

00:47:31.480 uh and one of the answers um seems to have been me uh because apparently me losing my mustache

00:47:39.300 was in fact the biggest crash out uh what i'm gonna what happened i want to put i want to like

00:47:47.640 this okay go on then right feel better now yeah okay great so um yes i'm very sorry ladies and

00:47:56.020 gentlemen for my own personal crash out i come to you in humility uh with recognition of my error

00:48:02.840 uh the mustache will return one day someday in 20 years are you going captain darling mode i will go

00:48:11.300 captain darling mode again at some point i promise you have to tell us my christmas present you have

00:48:16.720 to tell us that what's the story behind the mustache or are you not going to reveal it for other reasons

00:48:21.920 what story behind the mustache oh how come you because i remember you before you never had that

00:48:27.040 mustache no no no how come did you have it in the beginning um well because because um i just

00:48:35.240 genuinely i've i've spent my entire life clean shaven yeah and so i just grew it to see what it would

00:48:42.420 be like just to see what would happen sheer facial hair curiosity got the best of me you didn't see

00:48:49.020 what happens and it was i respect that yeah respect that and uh it became an entire personality uh and

00:48:55.660 so stelios and i want to part from you ladies and gentlemen with just some really grounded advice

00:49:02.380 which is that don't don't crash out don't be these people you you don't need to go and

00:49:08.840 right throw a riot in your own car or on a boat or on social media there is a much healthier philosophy

00:49:17.880 that stelios and i are uh advocates of and that is mads posting absolutely

00:49:25.120 and we will just play it out with with this because this is the aspiration you're a maxing

00:49:30.740 this is what your life should be like

00:49:32.620 exactly for copyright but doesn't this just look more there's no need to crash out here this isn't

00:49:40.340 a crash out this is a celebration of the human spirit it is absolutely euro maxing is the philosophy

00:49:46.900 for the future first of all it's a birthright it is it is a birthright and it's also a way of

00:49:53.320 enjoying life just sit down relax drink coffee drink coffee maxing coffee maxing just have a nice

00:50:03.000 drink sit in the sun in the sun enjoy the sunshine i think what we need to do next christmas is we

00:50:11.140 need to keep an eye on the philosophical sort of trajectory yep of of med maxing absolutely and i

00:50:19.360 think we need to come back to the ladies and gentlemen and explain how things are going

00:50:23.220 and whether or not you and i might write a book on it also exactly euro maxing euro maxing is the way

00:50:29.400 so we will be so back so um have a wonderful uh christmas ladies and gentlemen watch a mads

00:50:36.760 mickelson film and uh from stelios and i we hope that you've enjoyed some of the good the bad and the

00:50:43.120 ugly of some of the big meltdowns of 2025

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - December 31, 2025

Christmas Podcast ｜ Best Meltdowns of 2025

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