The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1247
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Summary
In this episode of The Load Seaters, we discuss the murder of Irina Zarutska, the mass murder of a 23-year-old refugee on a train and the attempts to memory hole it. We also discuss how the establishment is doing everything that they can to contain Gammonzilla.
Transcript
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good afternoon ladies and gentlemen welcome to the podcast the load seaters for monday the 8th
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of september 2025 i'm joined by stelius and ferris and today we're going to be talking about
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how the establishment is doing everything that they can to memory hole the north carolina murder
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the bus murder that you've doubtless seen uh they are obviously we're going to be talking
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about the labor reshuffle because that's gone brilliantly
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and we're going to be talking about how uh the establishment is doing everything they can to
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contain gammonzilla including rolling out uh what has been called and i didn't coin this a house
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gammon um i didn't i didn't like i said i didn't coin that that's that's that's the way the people
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online are talking about it anyway after the podcast ferris will be doing a live realpolitik
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uh on the website so go and sign up to loses.com five pound a month help us keep the lights on
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he will of course take questions and answers from you so just leave a comment on the uh page and
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towards the end of the uh show he will address the comments that you've made um and also just a quick
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final thing i haven't got access to a thing so someone's gonna have to change it across for me
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uh islander 4 is going going gone there's not much of it left apparently so basically get it while you
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can so you don't have to get 500 pounds on e-mail uh but anyway right with that said let's uh let's move
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on to the first thing right so if there were no alternative media and alternative platforms
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very few people would know of the murder of irina zarutska a 23rd year old ukrainian refugee
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in the united states who was savagely murdered by the carlos brown jr a career criminal and a train
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but uh we are we were dealt with with two despicable actions here number one it's the murder itself
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yeah goes without saying it's a it's a horrific act for anyone the the video is on twitter obviously we
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can't show it yeah uh the video is on twitter like it was yesterday it just kept coming up in my feed
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repeatedly and it's a harrowing thing to watch uh i didn't get through the whole thing frankly
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um but uh so obviously we're not gonna we're not gonna play it but if you want to find it you can
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just find it on twitter yeah so um it was the entire weekend and um the mainstream media were
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absolutely disgusting in how they try to memory hole it what was that crickets not a goddamn thing
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no it's actually it's it's incredibly infuriating because they basically try to memory hole it
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entirely instantly do not talk about it and we have you wikipedia here trying to say trying to delete it
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basically they it has been flanked it says here an editor has nominated this article for deletion as if
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this isn't somehow noteworthy yes and uh it reminds me a lot of wikipedia's previous ceo who was saying
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that caring for the truth sometimes is an obstacle for achieving a helpful consensus this is not helpful
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the kind of consensus that is turning a blind eye to these ideas to these horrific crimes is not
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helpful at all it makes society worse for everyone except for for criminals the worst the worst part
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about this as well was genuinely her innocence in it like she she didn't even glance at the guy she was
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just walking onto the train sat down on her phone with her earbuds in and then this guy just stabs her
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in the neck like yeah abu as you said um we have the video here we are not going to show it it's
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incredibly distressing i'm i'm i'm boiling for for uh for two days now i'm i'm boiling yeah uh but i do
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have two captions here where he does take a knife out and here is the image where he is about to strike
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out of nowhere she just walks into the tube into the tube she sits down he's behind he takes a knife
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he stands up really fastly and he and he and he stabs her and then in the video you can see him
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trying to exit the uh that wagon and blood is dripping from the from the knife it's it's nightmarish
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another way of putting it and the thing is well sorry can we go back to that previously right so i
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saw a bunch of people saying see this is why we need guards on trains it's like okay a couple of
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things one we never used to need guards on trains right trains trains used to be perfectly safe
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as they they they always had been uh but secondly even if you had a guard on this train this happened
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way too quick yes there's like you wouldn't have known he was going to do something when he stands
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up i think that for for me the the worst thing was she doesn't notice him he seems to be sitting
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there peacefully enough just look at sort of no reason to interact to be concerned etc it comes
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completely out of the blue and then you discover that this guy's had 14 arrests yeah many of them
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for pretty serious crimes and he's always been let go and also if you look at the wikipedia page they
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want to delete they they point out that uh was it last year or the year before he he rang up the
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authority saying he felt that someone was trying to control him so he obviously is someone who has
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genuine mental health problems right right it's like okay well what do we do well we put him on the
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streets that's what we do and i'd say a sort of misplaced trust on her behalf because i never try i
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try always on trains and tubes to sit where i can see everyone yeah that may be me well we live in a
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multicultural society exactly it shouldn't be this way it really shouldn't be this way didn't used to
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be this way yeah right so here we have a really good post by frank mccormick who says the timeline
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if a cop had shot the carlos brown jr before he had boarded the subway with a knife this would be
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the timeline if a cop had somehow shot him before he managed to stab her in the neck but had the knife
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coming out yeah pretty much and i will say that the the reaction of the mainstream establishment
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the left-wing media left-wing politicians the way they have reacted here is absolutely appalling
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and uh remember that during during the the aftermath of the events that led to the death of george floyd
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they involved mass protests civil unrest vandalism why it disappeared yep yeah widespread looting
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economic fraud by some of the people who also were involved there we had performative kneeling
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sessions of people who who screamed i can't breathe in it was in dork where i was there yeah we had the
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police kneeling to the protesters during the covid lockdowns yeah so like if you'd gone out you've
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got absolutely bodied by the cops but the cops are there bending the knee to the blm protesters and two
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more things calls to defund the police and also the poisoning of relations among citizens by constantly
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making it all about race by constantly saying if you don't agree with this agenda you're a racist
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and i will say this defunding the police would not help her now okay she she she was murdered but i will
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say the the principle behind the philosophy that calls for the for defund the police is actually the
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the philosophy that led him to yes that allowed him to fail again and again and again and again
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and apparently 14 times being arrested wasn't enough for activist judges to say that he is unfit for
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society and it wasn't just that he was like stealing sweets from the shop or something a lot of these were
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violent assaults or um robberies with a weapon and things like this so obviously a dangerous career
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criminal just on the streets though this is why and schizophrenic convictions need to lead to a life
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sentence this is why three violent convictions must lead to a life life sentence uh we're not talking
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about parking tickets here we're talking about violent offenses exactly you can't have people like
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that running around the street it's just not feasible if they if they are demonstrating just you
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know schizophrenic tendencies because the guy was literally saying something like there's a man-made
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substance that's controlling me or something it's like okay lunatic why have we closed the asylums
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again but if these people genuinely have because a lot of people on one side want to say oh this is
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a race thing we've got no evidence as a race thing actually we've got no evidence that he he just hated
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white people we do have evidence he's a long-standing career criminal and probably mental so why haven't
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we got asylums exactly these people should be sequestered away from the main population obviously
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and let us see here the disgusting double standard yeah the democrats did this when george floyd overdosed
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and they had totally ignored irina zarutska being murdered it's crazy that she's like right the russians
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can't get me now yeah yep so yeah well you don't know where you've gone do you now let's do this um
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we have the associated press writing nothing about it um seven 17 74 000 plus ap articles about george
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zero articles about irina zarutska and i went in and you know if we do the search bar i did it before
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we don't have to do it again but i saw nothing on it there was nothing on it and many times you put and
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they do and results do come up but they're before the 22nd of august right where she was murdered and
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they weren't about her they are because their name irina is picked up yeah it shows up here
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they are so the new york times they have many results for daniel penny no an actual hero did nothing
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wrong who was an actual hero exactly hang on just say they're all gonna be negative about daniel
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pennies yes absolutely penny racist daniel penny the murderer daniel penny this oh daniel penny's
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a bad person exactly zero for irina zarutska wow why would the paper of record have anything to say
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about this if you know daniel penny had been there on that train and saw this guy he would have acted
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which is which is the reason that they hate him um so here liz willer tells us gives us extra data here
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about the new york times close to 6 000 articles about george floyd close to 20 1200 for trevor martin
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56 about kilmore abrigo garcia is that which one is the one who was deported who cartel people
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traffickers from venezuela oh no not not deportation daniel penny 100 irina zarutska zero you get an idea also
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cnn the peaceful but mostly fire but no fiery but mostly peaceful blm riots cnn has zero for
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irina zarutska they just put it now here yeah just one there yeah no but that wasn't there yeah today
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where i was fixing the links really that case they got shamed into saying that literally came up this
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small literally came up yeah now it's been two days and they were eventually like yeah that was rough and
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not just two days it's two days where they are called out yeah yeah yeah because the murder took
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place on in uh august the 22nd right right right here we have many other we what's yeah journal zero
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articles why would they write about this guardian nothing had to include it because of course right so
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the only thing that i could find was from fox so this is a local fox affiliate a local local fox
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affiliate where they're saying ukrainian woman who fled war stabbed to death at charlotte light rail
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station man man charged with murdering ukrainian woman irina zarutska at charlotte transit station as
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community raises for family expenses and here we have from and wokeness a post that went viral
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well sorry let's go back up he's got to correct that there's one cnn story now yeah there's one
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yeah yeah there we go so zero ap stories zero pbs zero new york times stories zero npr zero w
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wall street journal zero bbc zero cnn zero wapo zero reuters zero msnbc and unless i'm mistaken i think npr
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is the news outlet that the previous ceo of wikipedia went to be a ceo yes i i i make that with
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a pinch of salt but she was the ceo of wikipedia who said caring about the truth occasionally is an
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obstacle to yeah the racial justice must come first but in the framework of racial justice this kind of
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thing doesn't make sense racial justice means zero consequences for certain communities and all of the
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blame is shifted to others can we can we go back to that second stelios let's let's go back to that
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thing because i think that's that's worth um honing in on a second because there is literally no
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advantage to them reporting this story from the perspective of intersectional social justice yes
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what this shows is yes a black man can just turn out to be an insane schizophrenic murderer
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and you not having provoked him in any way having done nothing at all
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there is there is no way they can argue that she is in some way responsible for his oppression
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she's from ukraine exactly she is not an american she doesn't have a history tied to
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slavery jim crow civil rights segregation whatever it is she's just some girl who's fled a war
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she gets on the train she's done nothing wrong and he murders her for reasons that we're not
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entirely sure of yet so it there there is just nothing absolutely nothing in the oppressor oppressed
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victimology dynamic that they can report on to make the majority white population of america
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seem like bad people yes this just makes look him and his community and the power structures that
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allow him to operate in society to be the bad people which is why they're like yep zip absolutely nothing
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on this one guys now nothing see here this is not interesting to us at all it's it's exactly right
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right the daily mail had an article on the 26th of august we should commend them for this where they're
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talking about the appalling past of serial criminal accused of murdering ukrainian woman who fled
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for safety there and they say here's always mug shots 14 times arrested yeah and they are basically
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saying that he was convicted when he was he assaulted his sister in charlotte when he went
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out he was released that same month he was also arrested for injury to personal property and
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trespassing he's a career career criminal career criminal right so we have him several mug shots also
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it's weird they say that they have a mug shot of someone else who isn't him yeah and this goes out
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viral but you know this guy who just have the same name doesn't change things so what we have to say
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here about the there's a question here about what kind of failure must take place and what are the
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levels of failure that must take place in order for something like this to happen and i think some
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people are saying something sensible is that you know there's basically zero accountability for
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activist judges yes they can practice and apply the crt philosophy you just mentioned according to
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which the most oppressed people are always perennially victims of structures that override their agency
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thus leaving them with zero blame for their actions these people they're not held accountable by
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anyone but also okay let's take them at their word so it's the structures of society well is it not the
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people who occupy the power structures in society then that are responsible for this guy murdering
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by their own philosophy if that's the case if he is just a victim of the way that society is racist
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towards him then it's got to be the judges it's got to be the social workers it's got to be all of
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these people who are therefore held account for his behavior in society because otherwise follow-up
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questions that make this very uncomfortable exactly and so the the soros funded activist judges yeah they
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are responsible for this yes they yes they did this and the sad thing is that we are not talking about
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a failure of the judicial system alone we're talking about a total failure on all levels it's not just
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the judicial system it's also the political system it's the educational system and also the issue of
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administrating justice across the board and let me give you example an example the mayor of charlotte
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told people not to repose things for safety yep so safety for the she cares only about the
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appearance of safety not actual safety yeah so what she says i want to thank our media partners
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and community members who have chosen not to repost or share the footage thank you media partners i think
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your partner is just carrying a lot of uh pursuing a lot of heavy lifting i i think it's actually uh
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something of a big reveal isn't it yes the the media partners the the fourth estate who are there to
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hold the powerful to account yeah there are partners there are partners they should be your
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rivals they should be those people who are a real pain in the rear we were told about bob woodard and
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all of that stuff indeed and it was a narrative this is how the media found its legitimacy in the
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first place democracy dies in darkness but that's what i heard yeah and so here we are there's there's
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nothing being reported about this story they bury it and they're even criticizing people who do report
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it and look at how infuriating this is she says i've been thinking hard about what safety really
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looks like in our city i remain committed to doing all we can to protect our residents and ensure
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charlotte is a place where everyone feels safe total nonsense total nonsense and i'd say this is
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this this is to a degree this is malicious because not to a degree yeah this is malicious full stop
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100 uh look safety looks like her sitting on the train comfortably unbothered by the people around
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her complete lack of safety looks literally like that what she wants is the illusion of safety
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irina had yes exactly this is genuinely abominable because of course the mayor is going to be chauffeured
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around in a bulletproof car right she's going to be taken around to wherever she wants to go she
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never has to use public transport she's never in danger of the anarcho tyranny created by the
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sorrowful judges releasing career criminals and mentally ill vagrants uh who will just randomly
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stab you in the throat she's in no danger of that at all and so instead of saying we need to make
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sure our city is safe because of course the is safe would mean oh right well get the mentally ill
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vagrants off the streets that's becadely the lot of them it's one percent who are going to be
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responsible for all of the violent crimes yep let's just lock them up we need to get them off the
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streets fafo it's simple she doesn't yeah but hang on but but look at what she's look what she's done
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here right instead you feel safe when you are safe that's why you feel safe if you don't feel safe it's
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because you're not safe you can have the illusion of safety hang on that's the point that's exactly the
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point right when i'm when i go to some you know like tiny little village in england and i'm wandering
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around i am safe like there's no question of it you know where it's just like you know the average
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age is like 60 and i walk past a little deer and like good morning and you know i'm on the way to
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the shop or something i am safe so i don't need to worry about feeling safe it's just it would be
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irrational not to feel safe but she said no that's actually something we've decided is not social
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justice right yes you being safe is not social justice but i can't guarantee your safety however we can
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try and make sure you feel safe it's like okay well how are you gonna do that well i'm gonna do that
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by essentially censoring information and making sure that you aren't really aware the level of
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danger that you're in so it's the hyper narrative of safety over the reality of the danger that you're
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in is what she's trying to impose on you from the comfort and absolute safety of her guarded bulletproof
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car exactly i couldn't agree with you more it's so much and the issue is that the philosophy of
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punishment and blame and responsibility behind this is entirely a luxury belief it is the the
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it is the philosophy of people who are shielded from the consequences of the policy they advocate for
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it's not just luxury belief it's also punitive it is intended to punish certain groups of people
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yeah and and and that is not separable from it and it is intended to say that look you guys carry
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generational guilt a form of original sin and they don't and therefore you must put up with their
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misbehavior is it is that if it was a white guy who had been 14 times violent thug would he be let
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out repeatedly no and it wouldn't be it wouldn't be communicated as an isolated incident of someone with
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mental illness we would constantly be talking about be constantly being be bombarded with narratives of
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far-right extremist racist epidemics which is what happened with daniel penny which is exactly what
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happened to daniel penny yes and it still happened again he stopped this kind of thing from happening
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from the other side and he was the problem and he was the problem even though if you watch the video
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with daniel penny everyone in the carriage is on his side yeah because this guy is intimidating
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everyone he's in everyone's face it looks like he's about to do so it looks like he could play a
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knife and just stab someone in the neck and so every like in black and white whoever everyone
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in the carriage is on daniel penny's side for a reason yes sorry and the failure isn't just political
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and a failure of activist judges it's also educational here we have an excellent post by frank mccormick
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again i included two of his because he did an excellent job here he says i was a public school
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teacher in the hood for 11 years and i know this type of kid the type that would smack the kid sitting
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in front of him tell the teacher i don't give a f when corrected and ruin an entire years of worth
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of learning for the entire class his special education teachers would describe him as actually
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very smart with a lot of potential despite him failing every class and scoring a nine on the act
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there would be countless meetings with him and his mom and the social workers psychologist principal
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would speak in soft voices and nod and smile when the kid told me told them he wants to be a doctor
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they design all sorts of ridiculous accommodations that give him ample room to behave however he wanted
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and terrorize his teachers and peers with many more consequences teachers would spend the entire class
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trying to rein in his behavior and when they called security to remove him they have to evacuate the
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entire class first he'd rarely receive any consequences and so on and so on and so forth see if this kind of
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behavior was just met with the birch with a just with a whipping from the earliest years you know
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you're five years old you're acting out there's no you get thrashed across the back of your legs
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that'll put you in your place and you you will you will be on a completely different road where you
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know oh no actually i'll just get thrashed if i do this yeah so i'm not going to do it and it would be
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that simple that's how you prevent this kind of behavior i think we have the worst of both worlds
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because my phd is on moral responsibility it's precisely naughty kids exactly it's on the faa
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strong card of the fafo club yeah card carrying member but point is there is a philosophy of
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constantly trying to absorb people from blame and say that a justice system needs to be humane
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it needs to constantly absorb responsibility yes but we have what fira said before we have a left
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that says this for my friends and constant blame for my enemies ridiculous so friends everything for
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my enemies the law exactly exactly and i won't say by the sword of ronin that was a reply of his to me
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said and he perfectly captures this philosophy the underdog is always righteous justified and unable to do any
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wrong is one of the most damaging infantile assumptions that has been imposed in our society
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but democrats leftists and he puts within within parentheses especially women that's why exactly
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why criminals are deified and regular people are villainized i mean they society function floyd as a
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saint society appearing as a saint that that's exactly what they did society to thrive require and to
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basically function not just thrive to function society requires reliable citizens not people who are
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career criminals who are able to engage in conflict resolution that is peaceful without acting like in
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such ways in in cases even with the risen conflict yeah there's no conflict here and also it requires
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citizens and a political leadership that is able to enforce the laws by force if necessary yes that's
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it leftism is an attack an assault on this it's incredibly destructive and anti-civilization and i'll
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say never forget the people who called for the defunding of the police never forget them yeah and never forget
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irina uh mana says mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent adam smith i think about this quote
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a lot yeah uh because it's just true yeah it is obviously 100 true and i mean this is such a good
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example good such a being lenient on people like this is just a giant f you to law-abiding innocent citizens
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from the part of the establishment it's just a way of getting people killed it's it's how to get people
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murders is to be lenient to monsters no but we constantly listen to this narrative of risk
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showing respect and uh yeah and how people are positioned in society yeah that's exactly how a
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system tells you f you yeah that's true uh stelios forgot to mention that the picture of the democrats
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kneeling for blm the scarves they were wearing were the patterns of tribes which sold the slaves themselves
00:26:29.060
themselves which wouldn't surprise me at all because of course the slaves don't have native native
00:26:34.340
patterns she was killed uh by a product of the soros judicial system while fleeing the results of
00:26:39.300
soros foreign policy that's interesting what on yeah i can't really talk a little bit about that
00:26:45.780
afterwards yeah yeah yeah um we live outside of charlotte and refuse to take the train says nj brooks
00:26:50.660
they run it under the honor system and don't check for those who pay out of fear of being racist
00:26:55.540
yes well it's much like uh the the underground system here in fact uh michael says i feel like we
00:27:01.860
have more or less concluded that yes this is happening all over europe it's by design it is evil
00:27:05.780
what is left to answer is why is this happening who benefits and why there is a reason for sure
00:27:09.460
well i mean you saw the mayor right she's the one who benefits from this she gets because what
00:27:14.020
she's doing is saying to certain communities in diverse areas basically i'm not going to punish
00:27:19.700
you i'm not going to police you you keep voting for me to make sure i keep getting to uh
00:27:25.300
in enrich myself at the taxpayer expense and i will make the rules favor you and not them
00:27:32.340
and subconsciously this community knows what it does right this community knows what is from it
00:27:38.820
and what is not from it uh you know i'm i'm very tired of us pretending that these are just isolated
00:27:44.820
incidents um base tape says this won't stop until we start stripping judges right to practice law for
00:27:50.580
neglecting public safety irresponsible failure to act and abuse of power well again like if
00:27:55.460
if there's someone's been let out 14 times by judges someone's got to be held accountable
00:27:59.940
yes eventually uh strangely says greetings from the us bless the loosies well thank you very much
00:28:06.260
uh the problem with the american justice system is the criminal is considered the defendant
00:28:10.340
uh yeah well yeah indeed uh hesher just says uh sends ten dollars and thank you well thank you very
00:28:16.180
much and uh hacker says my mother is schizophrenic trying to force anyone away in meds is very difficult
00:28:21.540
my mother wandered the streets had to testify in court to get her on her meds well that's the
00:28:25.300
point that we in the modern modern mental health system now oh well if we give you these things
00:28:29.460
you'll just go away and take them it's like yeah but what if they don't yeah exactly what happens
00:28:32.900
what are our what are what's our recourse some people need to be supervised it's just absurd to
00:28:37.620
pretend otherwise yeah and and not only that it's bad for them you know they the the ones who are
00:28:42.900
like no i want to be better well they need help exactly i can't just let them roam free but anyway
00:28:49.300
let's let's carry on uh very good uh help me move on to the next segment where we are going to be
00:28:58.900
talking about the wonderful labor reshuffle the wonderful uh reshuffle of the cabinet that just
00:29:05.060
happened under prime minister keir starmer as you framed at the musical chairs on the titanic yes yes
00:29:11.700
it's it's it's very much a case of everybody can see that this is a sinking ship uh everybody can
00:29:17.300
see that this is crashing but uh nobody wants to admit it yet and nobody's calling for an early
00:29:23.860
election just yet um but what's up well far faraj is yes that's right uh labor know what's up they are
00:29:34.500
saying we know reform have been gaining momentum uh faraj has a clear target rolling back all the
00:29:41.060
progress this and every other labor government has made god okay i'll vote for him now yeah yes
00:29:46.740
okay fine i've got my criticisms niger france but if it's half as right-wing as they say i'll take it
00:29:52.500
exactly exactly we need as many labor party members as possible to make an urgent contribution to our
00:29:58.820
campaign fund oh i bet you do so the fact that they're saying that this is for the campaign fund
00:30:04.340
is a bit of a tell about what they really expect yeah we've got another four years or so so you should
00:30:11.700
be worrying about yeah so so you know they're they're quite worried now i would suggest and uh for
00:30:18.580
good reason they have a lot of reasons to worry uh firstly let's talk about rayner aside from the
00:30:23.860
personal criticisms of her her importance is that she was the most senior person connected to the labor
00:30:31.060
unions in government she was also um representative of the unitary nature of starmer's cabinet yes
00:30:38.020
because she was working class yes and that was one of the main defenses oh they just hate a working
00:30:42.660
class woman who makes yes she also had a libertarian hate of taxes for paying taxes
00:30:50.420
i am sympathetic to that but you know if she didn't hammer on about everyone else yeah yeah
00:30:55.060
dodging taxes maybe it wouldn't be such a big deal so the fact that she's gone means that something of
00:30:59.940
the connection between the labor unions and the labor party is also gone because the most senior
00:31:06.900
uh people now who are associated with the with with the union movement in britain which underpins
00:31:13.300
the labor party itself that this is an important point to make the labor party has two anchors the
00:31:17.700
fabian society and the labor unions uh one of these anchors is gone and the most senior people from
00:31:23.220
unions according to my research and i'm happy to be corrected are just assistant whips which is a
00:31:29.220
pretty junior role there are two assistant whips that are associated with the labor unions that's
00:31:34.180
pretty much it these are pretty junior roles so there's nobody now in cabinet speaking for them
00:31:40.340
and this is happening at a time when corbyn is working on his own party the so-called your party
00:31:47.060
not just corbyn but the greens as well very aggressive at the moment and the greens so there is a sort of
00:31:53.380
uh pulling a part of the labor party that is happening as and is accelerated by the resignation
00:32:01.620
of rayner so that's one important consequence we've seen the conservative party implode uh it look it's
00:32:08.340
probably not going to recover it's definitely not recovering under cammy and now we're seeing the
00:32:13.300
other day that the an election is very four years away or no no no she said if you don't like it
00:32:18.260
leave thank you which people are instantly which it's affecting to farage but it's just what a
00:32:25.300
ridiculous thing to say it was the laughable boomers who voted for her and now they're shifting towards
00:32:30.740
farage so this is going to be quite interesting um so a civil war is brewing within the labor party
00:32:38.580
thornberry is running it seems that uh starmer was emily thornberry is running to become a deputy
00:32:45.540
labor leader she has an axe to grind because she was um passed over as as attorney general and uh
00:32:52.740
we ended up with hermer instead uh who has been nothing but a disaster but probably more competent
00:32:58.740
than thornberry i mean i mean competent each way you know okay fine evil yes you know what i mean
00:33:05.540
fine anyway sorry um so corbyn is trying to get rayner on side this will be quite interesting why
00:33:12.340
why wouldn't he uh thornberry among others are running and we're going to talk about that a
00:33:16.900
little bit later um but you have to remember this is happening in a context where starmer has been told
00:33:24.420
by senior leaders within his party that he could be gone from the party by may depending on how they
00:33:31.700
perform in the local elections that are scheduled for may well how are they doing in the polls
00:33:37.380
surely starmer can be like yeah but look at my numbers yeah no last one i saw was starmer on 11
00:33:44.580
approval rating the labor party something like that 11 yeah yeah so some something something like that so
00:33:50.500
it's it's really quite pathetic and the person who's replacing uh rayner as deputy prime minister
00:33:56.980
is david lammy um so this is a guy i mean he's guinean firstly yeah um he's been calling for
00:34:08.500
reparations endlessly for very many many years 2018 yeah this is from 2018 exactly sorry can we just
00:34:14.740
pause this i love this david lammy i'm british quote we want reparations who do you want reparations
00:34:18.740
from who's the we here yeah what's the we exactly carrot and he says in this speech caribbean people
00:34:24.020
it's like right so they're not british got it understood thank you david he's he's he's pretty
00:34:28.020
open about it when it's convenient he's a famous moron there's to add to this there's a very famous
00:34:34.020
clip where people ask him who succeeded henry the eighth and he says i have that here thank you very
00:34:40.900
much yes i mean i have that this is an old one go i mean let's let's laugh um which american chat
00:34:49.540
show host has business ventures including harpo productions and oxygen media which operates a
00:34:54.740
24-hour cable television network for women opa weekly yes so he knows this stuff oh good this is
00:35:01.060
easy peasy he knows who acceded to the english throne at the age of nine on the death of his father henry
00:35:05.300
the eighth in 1547 henry the seventh edward the sixth that's not how that's not how numbers work
00:35:16.420
this is a guy he was cultural secretary at the time i think or had done before that he'd been
00:35:22.820
cultural secretary for two years uh he thought that black smoke and white smoke coming out of the vatican
00:35:29.620
were racial signals so when the bbc said will it be black smoke or white smoke he said oh now you're
00:35:36.900
just being racist yes and the bbc was kind enough to make sure that you couldn't read his tweet just
00:35:42.180
to hide the very kind yeah so basically someone allowed to fail upwards yeah pretty much oh his
00:35:47.700
entire life pretty much like he he got a scholarship um back when he was young because he was black and he
00:35:54.100
got sent to various um different law schools went to harvard harvard yeah went to harvard law school
00:35:58.580
not because he's a genius or even one of our best embrace but because he's black and he's been
00:36:04.500
affirmative action and then when you look at his constituency of tottenham well it's 22 english so
00:36:09.940
he's just literally an a diversity hire his entire career has been diversity hire and the thing is he
00:36:16.660
david lammy's um evident brain power has been something legendary i mean there were just so many
00:36:22.820
small clips like there's one where he's doing an interview with the the news and he's like look i just
00:36:26.980
don't see any policeman around and there's literally one standing behind him in shots
00:36:30.580
yes it's like no we haven't seen a policeman all day it's like like it's like diane abbott it's just
00:36:35.940
actual morons being pushed up exactly because of their race and we all have to pretend that they're not
00:36:40.580
morons yes and um i'm trying to imagine the situation at the dispatch box when it's him and kemi
00:36:47.220
when starmer isn't in the country i mean kemi is at least not a moron you know she she's uh you know
00:36:53.140
she's not stupid she's just she's not as stupid she's just she's not diane abbott stupid i don't
00:36:57.700
think she's stupid i think she's kind of unaware of what british culture is i think she's not
00:37:02.580
dull i think she's not genius yeah exactly she's not moron the fact that she couldn't
00:37:09.780
ever land a decent punch at the dispatch box given what an open goal the labor government provides
00:37:18.100
on a daily basis on a daily basis shows you that there is a level of dullness there
00:37:25.140
underpinning her lackluster performance the fact that she can't make it to anything on time
00:37:30.900
um is quite laughable um it's just she's just not very bright that's all um but a more interesting
00:37:40.980
person to look at is um the uh what's her first name mahmoud shabana shabana mahmoud shabana mahmoud
00:37:50.180
now she's being promoted by the guardian as someone who is tough on crime legal migration so anyone knows
00:37:56.500
uh so um it was it that cooper was the home secretary was the hero home secretary she was
00:38:02.980
given the uh foreign office now yes david lammy was the foreign secretary yes i'm sure uh david lammy
00:38:10.580
was the foreign secretary he's been made into the justice secretary and to the deputy uh prime minister
00:38:17.620
and shabana mahmoud was the justice secretary and now she's in the home office and it does she apparently
00:38:25.620
has said that she doesn't like um migrants committing crimes that she thinks that the
00:38:30.820
pakistani rape gang issue must be dealt with that she thinks that illegal migration should be dealt with
00:38:36.100
these are positive signs but i suspect that there is a uh little more to it that we need to consider
00:38:44.100
including some of her uh view views so we've seen the liberals sort of objecting here and saying
00:38:50.420
you know we shouldn't think about her skin color we shouldn't think about her religion we shouldn't
00:38:54.660
think about her sex this is desperately naive so just to be clear james james is a friend of the
00:39:00.900
show and he's a decent chat great guy um yeah very very good work very good work a very respectable
00:39:05.940
brave man however this is the last paradigm's opinion on the origins of peoples yes and i think it's not
00:39:15.540
correct exactly and this is what i'm arguing with him in this thread exactly saying that these things
00:39:20.020
aren't incidental uh mahmoud is she's many videos of her praising islam and saying how it informs
00:39:26.580
everything that she does yep and then of course yeah you get this as well oh attack her for our
00:39:30.500
politics not what she says not for who she is it's like well i'm sorry but you've been attacking us for
00:39:35.060
who we are exactly decades exactly and so you can't like well okay well let's just talk about politics
00:39:41.060
guys guys so no she's been saying talking about the importance of racial justice and things like
00:39:47.140
that forever and then she wants us to ignore that goes away does it yeah exactly when it suits her um
00:39:54.500
so shabana mahmoud has been quite supportive of of the palestinians endlessly uh she's been protesting
00:40:02.260
left and right uh she's signed letters to release a child rapist because he was being deported um we
00:40:10.820
we should consider that when she says that the labor party has lost muslim voters trust over gaza
00:40:18.580
well it sort of accepts the premise that these are different communities with different beliefs
00:40:26.420
different identities different values different operating principles it's and and therefore
00:40:32.340
different interests and it's embedded in that question but also we we we all come from a community
00:40:42.100
and she is talking and if i mean just like the the things she's like these are the product of these
00:40:49.700
positions this politics is the product of her coming from this community precisely i'm not saying that
00:40:54.900
shabana is some sort of radical jihadi or something like that obviously she's not but the the
00:41:02.660
i don't say prejudice because it seems like a hard word but like the the natural disposition towards
00:41:08.100
that community is favorable to give grace to that community and that means the natural disposition on
00:41:14.500
other sides if we're going to go for all implicit bias uh like we were told for so many years that
00:41:20.420
everyone had yep it's going to be against other communities yep but also sorry no i wanted to
00:41:28.340
say that she is she is now member of the government of england yes so presumably she would care about
00:41:37.780
english solving english problems instead of trying to do the thing that's a wonderful
00:41:42.900
poor greta where you know a palestinian liberation and climate emergency are the same thing but this
00:41:48.660
are connect it's all connected but this is this is trans liberation in in and queers in palestine
00:41:54.020
but this is the point though you know just because you're like right you're you're being put into the
00:41:58.580
government of great britain doesn't mean that the natural bias and sentiments towards the certain
00:42:04.420
community disappears this doesn't go away and it informs everything she does as she tells us
00:42:09.060
well here she is commenting about english flags people that you see um holding the english flag
00:42:15.460
most of the time down my neck in the woods will be the edl and they are white and they are male
00:42:20.340
and they're bad people and they want to divide our um our communities from one another
00:42:27.140
whoa i'm gonna say they're bad they're white they're english they're male and they want to divide
00:42:33.300
sorry sorry why did the edl exist or they exist because of the muslim rape gangs
00:42:38.340
that were operating for decades and the police as jess phillips admitted were involved that she
00:42:43.700
knew about and nobody did anything we're involved in the rapes themselves and and not not just the
00:42:48.820
cover-up not just the cover-up and shabana has got the temerity saying that the edl were the bad guys
00:42:55.940
they're the bad guys because they are white and male and english so the idea that you can separate
00:43:02.420
um her external appearance her identity her original nationality etc etc whatever you want to call it
00:43:10.660
the idea that you can separate this from her politics is belied by her own fucking words but also
00:43:18.980
she literally says it there's another question that if we take her rhetoric in its entirety
00:43:23.620
what percentage is anti-white and what other percentage is anti uh anti-grooming gangs well
00:43:34.180
has she ever said anything anti-islam let's see that's a great question carl um islam my own religion
00:43:43.860
um like a lot of practicing muslims my faith is the most important thing in my life it is the
00:43:53.300
absolute driver of everything that i do um i feel a very strong um calling of my own conscience and my
00:44:00.260
conscience calls me to god that is how okay well i mean that seems to settle that kind of settles
00:44:06.260
things yeah it kind of simplifies that i know where her loyalties lie now and it's not with britain
00:44:10.820
exactly with england it's not with the people here exactly okay and and the idea that these things are
00:44:15.620
completely separate that you can separate identity from politics is belied by the last 50 years of
00:44:23.620
effort to create a society that is blind to religion is blind to origin is blind to ethnicity and the
00:44:32.340
reaction that this effort has begotten and not only that that that that whole society presupposed
00:44:39.140
an overwhelming absolute majority of ethnic homogeneity and okay we've got five to ten
00:44:45.380
percent around the edges who we're not going to be mean to because of who they are right because
00:44:49.060
they will just never have the kind of institutional power and community power to do any damage with
00:44:54.740
their own intrinsic biases towards themselves and against what we want so we can exactly have the
00:44:58.980
fiction of the colorblind universal meritocratic society and they have no choice but to play in our
00:45:04.260
sandbox exactly that time is rapidly coming to a close now that that time is gone because of the
00:45:10.420
speed of of the demographic change that all of europe is experiencing um and so starmer is going to push
00:45:19.380
nice miss mahmoud to become the deputy party leader but to see off the left right you see off the left so
00:45:25.940
he's going to this is the kemi beynok strategy that there's a there's a beautiful line here which is
00:45:31.780
that the labor party has a huge number of muslim members and they will out all vote for here here it
00:45:37.940
is uh this is from a labor insider this is not from uh us racists at the lotus eaters uh there are huge
00:45:45.700
numbers of muslim members of the labor party and they would vote for shabana why in addition she won't
00:45:51.140
be a problem for the leadership why would they vote against along religious lines i i don't get it
00:45:56.020
they vote for angela rayner what are we talking about what's the difference when when labor insiders
00:46:02.900
say that muslims will vote for fellow muslims that's okay when the lotus eaters say that muslims will
00:46:10.900
support other muslims that's that's bigotry yeah somebody explain to me the rules here well the rules
00:46:18.260
are uh fu ah that's the rules that's you know that's it that simplifies it you know how this
00:46:24.340
works yep yep yep here's a nice picture of her she was um protesting outside of a sainsbury's shop
00:46:31.620
trying to shut them down because they had israeli products or she says products from illegal israeli
00:46:36.980
settlements which you know um look i i'm i'm not a big fan of what israel does no i don't particularly
00:46:44.740
like is um the fact that she is a partisan to this conflict reflects her broader world view
00:46:53.300
and to pretend otherwise is naive beyond belief i mean she literally tells us that the people who
00:47:01.220
defend english identity are the bad guys and islam informs everything she does and the labor party
00:47:06.260
then tell us yeah the muslims will vote for her on these grounds yes so why would i expect exactly
00:47:11.780
anything that didn't have the kind of implicit bias that she obviously demonstrates exactly and so just
00:47:17.780
to sort of try to close this with a couple of points it seems pretty obvious that starmer wants
00:47:23.540
to use mahmoud to try to help with some issues on illegal migration maybe oversee some kind of
00:47:32.100
milquetoast inquiry into the grooming gangs that doesn't expose anybody but it also seems very obvious
00:47:39.060
that what is going to happen is that the migration numbers the legal migration numbers will not come
00:47:46.420
down in any way there will be a focus on illegal migration which is five percent of the total
00:47:53.860
and she will be used to sort of bridge the divide with some of the muslim community help your starmer
00:48:00.500
electorally uh pretend that there's been some meaningful achievements when the actual bigger problem legal
00:48:08.260
migration gets completely unaddressed and we know that she will favor her core religionists
00:48:15.140
in migration policy and it is naive to pretend otherwise she's being put in charge of the
00:48:20.260
department that deals with legal migration which has a very large muslim network and that muslim network
00:48:26.740
has been sufficiently effective to deny refugee status to christians genuinely fleeing persecution remember
00:48:34.020
when rishi sunak was put in charge and he was like yeah 250 000 indians a year this has nothing to
00:48:39.700
do with me being indian not at all not at all absolutely nothing to do with it uh but this isn't
00:48:44.980
stellar's in charge 250 000 greeks a year well that's better it's an improvement yeah it's a massive improvement
00:48:52.180
frankly by the way it's an improvement i'll be the local chieftain yeah okay yeah but really what's
00:48:58.020
surprising about the reshuffle is that ed miliband survived meaning that starmer is fully committed to
00:49:04.900
the net zero lunacy meaning that the economy will continue to survive of all the people to survive
00:49:10.260
exactly and what's also surprising is that rachel reeve survived yeah and it's important because i think
00:49:18.660
starmer is getting ready to get rid of her but maybe after a different crisis maybe i mean um currently in
00:49:25.220
just a sort of rolling crisis at this point yeah exactly exactly it is literally a perma crisis yeah
00:49:30.740
so what's been happening is that he has been uh starmer has been strengthening his own economics team
00:49:38.100
including by taking reeve's own deputy and putting him in number 10 and by appointing a range of new
00:49:44.260
economic advisors and he's announced a super ministry that's going to focus on economic growth
00:49:50.740
and it isn't clear how that is going to work with the treasury meaning that uh reeves is being stripped
00:49:58.020
of her power and being prepared to be the next sacrificial lamb when the guilt markets act up once
00:50:06.980
more so this is what's kind of happening this this is a this is a sinking ship and starmer is trying to
00:50:13.940
figure out a way of staying on top of it for as long as he can um and sorry but to plug in my own
00:50:21.220
website i've written about the next financial crisis that's probably coming to britain and um the timing
00:50:28.260
of the next uh election the next local election in may is going to be an interesting starting point
00:50:33.460
for a lot of the stuff i mean farage is convinced there'll be next year end of next year after the
00:50:37.940
may elections at some point very possible and i i mean i would be shocked i remember having this
00:50:42.660
conversation last year with someone saying what do you think he's really going to fill out instead
00:50:45.620
and they're like well why wouldn't he it's like because he's not going to do a good job and here
00:50:49.700
we are a year in everyone hates him he's the country's going terribly yes there's no fixing the
00:50:54.820
system from within basically no uh and yeah no i i'd be shocked if he lost and i sadly can't see any
00:51:03.060
room for course correction no they can't go anywhere they're too ideological yeah they're too
00:51:07.380
ideological every time where you think maybe they're something's going to change with them
00:51:12.420
they end up making things worse you think rachel reeves is going to come in one day i found this
00:51:17.300
book by a guy called milton friedman i think he's making a lot of good points you know and they'll
00:51:21.460
sit around what who never heard of him which entirely possible they've never heard of him but
00:51:26.820
i don't think they're going to change i think they're too committed also not just milton friedman but
00:51:30.500
also the social democrats of denmark they are ultra right wing yeah yeah in comparison to them yeah
00:51:36.740
anyone at all that's you know not theirs um but uh but anyway um johnny says it's beginning to seem
00:51:42.900
that legal systems in western societies uh are failing regardless of the countries it's the same
00:51:47.620
problems across the board yeah from your segment but that's true basically um it is it's the same
00:51:52.260
attitude that permeates the entire west at this point uh homeworld says last friday's podcast i was
00:51:57.460
a little dismayed that harry promoted the anti-british nazi apologist zoomer historian
00:52:01.780
yeah me too um i didn't know he did that uh there are better based historians such as bode and tick
00:52:07.060
history yeah i think we've got a couple around uh yeah no zoomer historian his videos are actually
00:52:11.220
really funny he's like now i just want to say this is just for educational purposes but this is part
00:52:16.180
727 of a series on how hitler did nothing wrong uh and it's like look bro just come out and say it's
00:52:21.460
fine you know i'm not gonna judge you but come on this this hiding behind this is just for
00:52:25.780
neutral come on that's childish um uh reverend says i like this for us fellow that i like the
00:52:30.740
cut of his jib thank you and uh dreadnought says so what i hear is the siege is working and yeah
00:52:36.340
that's the point right and this this is why i'm going to the protest on the 13th and i will be
00:52:40.820
speaking there and this is why even though in the face of withering criticism from friends of ours online
00:52:47.460
uh yes it's still worth doing even though any individual protest is not going to do anything
00:52:53.540
it's straws on the camel's back it's making them feel surrounded it's making them feel under siege
00:52:58.020
it's making them feel that millions of people are against them because they are and they have to
00:53:02.420
and the more the more pressure you put on them the more they feel the need to act and the more that
00:53:06.820
they act the closer they are to making a mistake and so you've got to keep going yep andrew for 50
00:53:12.180
dollars thanks man uh you all dropped some gems i've discovered the communists don't cherish beauty
00:53:16.500
they sermonize from its ruins making mistaking ashes for progress don't let up uh when a brave man
00:53:22.180
takes a stand the spines of others are often stiffened well thank you very much pray that
00:53:25.380
that's true yeah uh cheers and uh nc thanks for covering this um i think we have another one as
00:53:31.380
well sorry i just need to get to it uh afternoon gents have you seen the video of our beloved shibana
00:53:36.100
talking about the whiteness and what it means to be english it's on the english labor network youtube
00:53:39.860
channel really interesting i'll check it out i haven't seen that i'll check it um and there was another
00:53:45.060
one here wasn't there like i'm not am i missing it it's the same one come up twice for some reason
00:53:52.580
all right but anyway thank you very much right so let's carry on so the flags are still going up uh all
00:53:59.060
over the country actually can we just play this in the background with no sound on um as you can see
00:54:03.540
this is uh in birmingham uh and i mean people are very much enjoying this but notice how now it's the
00:54:11.300
the national flags of the british isles the england flag the welsh flag the scotch flag and the irish
00:54:17.700
flag uh the and the northern irish flag down at the bottom there you can see uh people people feel
00:54:23.380
very strongly about this and i'm completely in support of this obviously because this is our
00:54:28.260
country this is our land that's what these flags mean these flags mean the native population of these
00:54:33.780
countries get to have the primary claim on the countries that's what it means and so if the country
00:54:39.060
is in some way being governed for the interests of foreign groups who can define themselves from
00:54:45.700
countries elsewhere then their interests have to come a distant second to ours and if they don't
00:54:51.300
like it they have somewhere they can go they can flee from the country after it's been ruined basically
00:54:56.900
is what we're saying we have nowhere else we have we we can go to and so this is pretty
00:55:01.700
uncontroversial i would say unless you're of course a left winger um many of the councils have taken
00:55:06.820
them down but certain councils such as in the northeast here this is from the daily express uh
00:55:11.940
the blackburn and darwin council has uh said that no we're going to leave the flags up we're not
00:55:16.500
going to go and put flags up ourselves because that would cost money and we're councils so we don't
00:55:20.340
have any money but if you put the flags up we're not going to spend money taking them down which is
00:55:24.180
great because why would you but then if you think about like the north uh east of britain sorry this was
00:55:31.060
um it's still quite homogenous uh it's it's really just this giant scar across the middle of england
00:55:38.980
uh but the southwest and the northeast are still majority english areas by a long way and so why
00:55:44.980
wouldn't they what would be the reason to take them down well we get told a lot of the time that flags
00:55:50.340
are really inclusive right now this uh i think this was in brighton um now the people in brighton yes the
00:55:58.180
the people in brighton are brain damaged i think i think hope is hove is the lesbian district i don't
00:56:05.700
doubt well someone put up an england flag and a union flag there
00:56:28.980
early 20s women yep cheering to take it down and then some guy who hopes he's going to get with
00:56:34.740
one of them later is doing it for them uh yeah these are the kind of people who are against
00:56:39.860
the flag because the and the question though is why are they doing this right they're doing this
00:56:46.260
because they know that the england flag in particular is not an inclusive symbol yes they are doing this
00:56:51.220
because they're well aware oh no this is a statement of the domination of the native people of this country
00:56:56.020
and i as an insane traitorous leftist hate the native people of this country the people to whom
00:57:00.900
i belong and i want to see a palestine flag so i mean if that was a palestine flag they would never
00:57:05.300
take it down exactly they take it down because it's an english flag and they cheer because they
00:57:10.420
hate this country and honestly it's a big test basically these people need to be imprisoned uh
00:57:14.900
anyway moving on uh that's the problem of the narrative that they have with all of this
00:57:20.980
now as you can see from the people organically doing these things they know why they're putting
00:57:26.580
these flags up yep the people who are dragging them down know why they're dragging them down
00:57:31.300
the flag is not a unifying symbol across ethnicities it is an ethnic symbol and a definition by
00:57:38.340
definition and that's why they do it and so you've got uh people on gb news and elsewhere it's not just
00:57:44.260
even you saying well look these flags matter because they're being used to divide us it's like
00:57:48.500
well sorry who started that who was the one waving their flags with hundreds of thousands of them
00:57:57.460
marching through london shouting all sorts of slogans who were the ones doing it with the pride flags
00:58:03.220
who are the ones doing with the ukraine flags you know pakistani flags pakistani flags like the albanian
00:58:09.060
flag on albanian independence day yeah lighting up the the birmingham uh towns city uh city hall
00:58:15.940
in the pakistani flag and the indian flag on their independence days from britain sorry who started
00:58:20.820
this division but did we come out and say oh well these flags are becoming weapons to divide us
00:58:26.340
yeah they were and we've taken a lot of bloody fire recently so you're getting it back but leftism
00:58:32.020
is division this is sinister because what he wants to say is natural there are going to be different
00:58:37.380
there there are going to be different rules and you're going to play by my rules and i'm not going
00:58:42.180
to play by yours yes that's what that's what he says if division wasn't natural we wouldn't have an
00:58:47.140
india and a pakistan and bangladesh good point you know and and they know this perfectly about
00:58:53.620
themselves there can be no non-exclusive identity yes the very identity is exclusive the very nature of
00:58:59.460
an identity is a declaration against something else i am not these other things i am this thing uh and so you
00:59:06.020
get this everywhere i mean like uh zach polanski the world's most uh it is just hilarious just the
00:59:14.420
world's most photogenic man uh suggests that um the flags are being used to intimidate i'm not going
00:59:19.460
to play the lbc clip because they'll copyright claim us uh but he says that the flags being used
00:59:23.300
to intimidate and uh well i mean if you feel intimidated by the english isn't the pakistan flag
00:59:29.300
intimidating well that's the point no no that's exactly the point if putting up a flag is a statement of
00:59:35.300
ethnic possession of a land is a form of intimidation to those people who don't belong to that group
00:59:40.020
what zach is saying is yes for this whole time you've been intimidated by the palestine flag by
00:59:44.100
the pakistan flag by the pride flag they're designed to intimidate you as we as leftists think when we
00:59:50.420
shove the trans flag in your face this is designed to intimidate you when you put a flag up well that's
00:59:55.220
intimidating so okay fine fine i'm in favor of intimidating you with our flag if that's the way
01:00:00.420
that you think of this uh because you've been doing it to us this whole time so no mercy from
01:00:04.740
me on that one uh ross kemp though was like well i think it's being hijacked for political means like
01:00:11.060
ross do you know what national flag is it's an intrinsically political thing isn't the origin of
01:00:16.340
the flag of the war banner yes isn't like yes it's literally a symbol of a military formation yes but then
01:00:23.060
sort of expanded to a national identity yes the the every flag of every nation is an intrinsically
01:00:30.580
political statement it couldn't be anything else it says when you put up the flag this nation this
01:00:35.780
group owns this territory and has jurisdiction sovereignty over this territory the idea that
01:00:41.700
you can say that a flag has been hijacked for political means but flags were not originally designed
01:00:46.900
for football yeah i don't know how to explain it to this guy thinking of restaurants and the eurovision
01:00:52.100
contest maybe he is but the point being it's like again and the thing is i don't want to go hard on
01:00:58.740
ross kemp for this because i don't think he's a bad chap or anything but like you can see how they're
01:01:03.300
like wow oh no they're just trying to be divisive about it it's like right okay anything to say about
01:01:07.380
the pakistan flags or the palestine flags or the trans flags no it's just when we fly our flag that
01:01:12.580
suddenly oh you're hijacking this political symbol because you're getting in the way
01:01:17.140
of the liberal agenda exactly that's the point that's what you're doing that's exactly you're
01:01:21.620
asserting that liberalism is over yep it won't be tolerated any longer it's failed multiculturalism
01:01:27.780
has failed all this insane experiment has gone to the dogs yep as anyone can see as anyone can see
01:01:35.060
and confronting us with this reality means that you're dividing us because you're forcing us to
01:01:39.780
think about whether or not the stupid assumptions that we've operated on for the last two generations are
01:01:44.500
in any way valid and also our entire project relied on you just shutting up and letting us
01:01:49.300
exactly exactly if you actually you don't even have to really do anything if you just put up a symbol
01:01:55.140
that is in opposition to us that's it we're we're panicking now oh god the whole thing's
01:01:59.300
going off the rails it's like look if that's all it takes then you had because they managed to do this
01:02:02.980
for so long without any opposition and they're not accustomed to to meeting resistance yep and in
01:02:08.340
the first segment we have a politician who said thank you for shutting up yes yeah that's exactly
01:02:13.460
exactly the point this only works as long as you just keep quiet and allow them to essentially funnel
01:02:19.700
you into the channels that they approve to remember that our god is a god of battle and he is the lord of
01:02:25.460
hosts and that that implies a willingness to fight when necessary yes so anyway speaking of a
01:02:32.260
willingness to fight when necessary this has become the flashpoint of the lib now i can see why they've
01:02:39.300
chosen this one uh because this is a a really bad target why why would you vandalize the chinese
01:02:48.020
takeaway guys what what are you doing right it's a bit silly but um obviously there a little bit more
01:02:58.420
to the story no not really as far as i can tell i think what was more to the story was that it turns
01:03:03.860
out that this restaurant had been uh changing the name of the company that owns it around a dozen times
01:03:09.940
yes to presumably avoid taxes or something to avoid taxes and things of that nature i kind of support
01:03:14.980
that now i'm joking like angela reina it's like look she's bad because she's a communist but
01:03:21.460
a tax avoidance i approve of yeah fair enough no i understand but there's doubtless some backstory to
01:03:28.660
it but i don't think that's why they did this right and i so i that that's a bit of an aside that i
01:03:34.500
don't want to get dragged down into yeah so basically chinese takeaways are pretty much a staple across
01:03:40.100
england they have been because frankly no one's like oh no the chinese grooming gangs
01:03:44.900
are raping my children or the chinese are creating vast colonies in our cities like
01:03:51.060
this hasn't really been the experience of the english with the chinese takeaways so this this
01:03:54.900
is obviously just really inappropriate right obviously quite stupid i think don't go and
01:03:59.220
vandalize anything obviously right we have to uh be responsible on this show don't go and vandalize
01:04:05.300
anything that's not how we're going to win in fact we i'm going to show you in a minute this is
01:04:09.300
this gives them a way of punching back at us on this line because this is really really stupid
01:04:15.460
but i mean look at what they've said is it cat and dog so as if this this is a racist joke that
01:04:20.420
chinese people eat cats and dogs i'm sure they don't serve cat and dog there uh england get up
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misspelled brilliant this is suspicious yeah well i mean i don't we don't know who did it and it's just
01:04:33.460
being assumed that it's gammonzilla has uh reached out and expressed himself in this way and they say
01:04:40.820
get up yes okay but but it may be that that i don't know maybe they're just not brilliantly well
01:04:49.460
educated um but the the point being we'll we'll we'll assume for now until proven otherwise that this
01:04:55.460
is an expression an organic expression of gammonzilla uh stirring and dis voicing his displeasure with the
01:05:02.500
current state of affairs right obviously the local chinese takeaway is not the right place to do this
01:05:07.940
uh this you know vandalizing anything is not the right way to do it uh but the point is it does show
01:05:15.380
us how they think now they uh they got this chap who was like look where is this takeaway i wouldn't
01:05:22.820
mind visiting show support uh well done to the window cleaning company to help out so this this is
01:05:27.620
a guy called uh big john the bosch father who uh is a social media influencer from the working class
01:05:34.820
of england and he says bosch a lot like tom skinner uh and so they got him on bbc news night to come and
01:05:43.140
explain why as a proud englishman you shouldn't do this now i can explain this for you i'm a proud
01:05:49.220
englishman you shouldn't go and vandalize anything obviously but this is what he said and it's not
01:05:54.180
actually terribly offensive i love my country i'm a proud englishman um and when you see
01:06:01.780
the flags going up i can see why people are doing it because a lot of institutions around the country
01:06:06.820
won't put up the flags so people are sort of taking it amongst their self and it's normal people that
01:06:12.340
are doing it but every now and again it blows over you get the isolated incident which isn't good
01:06:18.020
which is it is upsetting so did you see a picture of a chinese takeaway in york saying go home yeah i
01:06:27.140
saw that on online um and i think the lady had been running it for 15 years she's lived here she's worked
01:06:33.700
hard and i'm associated with chinese takeaways but i would have felt the same whether it had been an
01:06:39.300
indian caribbean mexican greek turkish you know people that are working here shouldn't be targeted like
01:06:45.940
that no one should be targeted like that and uh it just sort of hit and hit a nerve and i'm going
01:06:50.340
up to york in a couple of weeks i'm going to go into the takeaway and give them a bit of custom
01:06:54.260
so that that is enough like like i said a completely fair statement yeah no one obviously should just be
01:07:01.220
targeted because they are foreign in the country don't go and vandalize their shops blah blah blah that's
01:07:05.620
not how any of this gets resolved and this is in fact how they end up crushing the native resistance
01:07:12.340
right this is this gives them the justification so do not do this but the problem that a lot of
01:07:17.460
people had with this is that he does kind of skip over the i understand why they're doing this the
01:07:23.140
institutions might put the flags like yeah that's that's an excess of the problem that's one of the
01:07:28.420
sort of like you know outgrowths of the problem but the problem is a lot deeper and a lot more core to
01:07:33.540
the nature of the the protests and the issue with the country and so um a lot of people like well
01:07:39.700
you know i'm completely on his side obviously you've got uh people with pronouns on the bio
01:07:47.380
she her here uh being like oh the absolute all-timer from big john where on instagram someone's posted i
01:07:54.100
bet you put a bingling flags up hate anyone that isn't white and he's like no check out my latest
01:07:58.180
post of bbc newsnight mate educate yourself for typing and then john has replied with uh posted this
01:08:03.220
saying i'm sorry but these types of comments make me sick he's made this comment in my post on
01:08:07.540
cornwall about having a pint of doom bar i'm accused by far right people of not being patron
01:08:11.780
patriotic enough and this chap accuses me of being a racist i'm not a racist or far right i'm a normal
01:08:16.420
english bloke who loves england loves great britain and respects all the different backgrounds that live
01:08:20.260
in our country and make us great right okay so what makes england great feel that you're being made
01:08:28.340
great yes what makes england great is diversity he's literally saying here diversity is our strength
01:08:34.100
yeah pretty much right pretty much yeah i believe that you're not racist or far right john
01:08:39.780
but i also don't believe that you're not a leftist when you just parrot their leftist talking points
01:08:45.540
and i'm not saying that john of course is a political theorist who spent a lot of time
01:08:49.460
speculating on this but the thing is i actually think john probably needs to start thinking about
01:08:54.580
this so actually is it the nature of england in particular that it was great because of its
01:08:59.860
diversity or was it great prior to the diversity and what was the incentive of the diversity just
01:09:04.660
come here and like oh look look at england it's crap look your crap look your history look at the
01:09:09.380
accomplishments of england absolutely nothing until about 1948 when we decided you know what
01:09:15.380
we can't we can't allow england to be this useless pathetic benighted country that never
01:09:20.740
accomplished anything on the world stage you know no no we're not going to make like uganda great
01:09:24.980
or anything no no no screw uganda it's already brilliant here we're gonna have for no reason
01:09:30.820
at all our own kindness or heart completely altruistically move over to england and just
01:09:36.660
start listen you stupid english you can't look this is how you build up a country we're going to show
01:09:41.540
you just use you know all of our countries as the model was that how it was john or was it that
01:09:47.700
england had the largest empire in human history it was the richest country that had ever existed
01:09:53.460
until that point and these people thought i would like some of that and for some reason they're
01:09:58.500
going to let me in is that how that worked john anyway you can see uh how there are people calling
01:10:06.660
the house gammon over this which i think is a bit uncharitable because i'm sure he's not a bad chap
01:10:10.900
but the thing is buying into their narratives is not a good idea because it gets these kind of people
01:10:17.620
behind you yeah something i want to say is that um i know from my background in academia how
01:10:25.060
narratives uh are weaponized against people and it's very often the case that everyday people who
01:10:32.820
aren't that informed when it comes to political discourse and rhetoric they try to get some points
01:10:38.900
across and in trying to communicate these points across they end up picking bits and pieces from the
01:10:46.260
narrative of the establishment it may be completely unintentional but it happens it's like framing
01:10:52.900
works in debates 100 but the point of the narratives of the establishment is that they are logically
01:10:58.820
coherent whether they're true or not and so once you accept some of it then other bits of it fall in
01:11:04.740
and through process of inference you end up at their conclusion whether you like it or not
01:11:08.980
so basically john from your perspective of diversity is our strength what's the argument against mass
01:11:14.420
immigration why shouldn't we just have an infinite number of immigrants from around the world i mean
01:11:19.460
the people who want an infinite number of immigrants to swarm england are just coming out and being like
01:11:23.780
oh these look at that john fiesel leslie with the hammer and sickle there being like the people's
01:11:28.820
champion do you want communists supporting you do you want these people on your side so actually that
01:11:36.260
john's a normal open-minded guy who just believes that diversity is our strength it are you sure you want
01:11:41.220
these guys on your side mate because these people hate you if you just come around and said well
01:11:46.980
actually i do think maybe the english are the ones with the primary claim to england they would be
01:11:50.500
castigating you as a racist at the moment but we can all say don't go and vandalize a chinese shop
01:11:55.220
don't bully people for being foreign obviously but that doesn't mean that we want communism does it
01:12:02.420
anyway a lot of people are pointing out that this is kind of the british version of the hick
01:12:06.580
lib mean uh as in the sort of the house gammon as it's being called which is again uncharitable
01:12:12.180
but there are a lot of people saying it so it must have resonated with them in some way
01:12:17.140
and i mean look at this look at this right these people hated you out of just a pure resentment
01:12:24.420
against the english working class when i first saw bing john everywhere i cringed why does he cringe
01:12:29.700
because he sees a fat white man who's english a proud englishman that's why he cringed john
01:12:35.540
he's racist against you john but because you came out and said diversity is our strength
01:12:41.060
you're a genuinely lovely guy you can love your country and not be filled with hate for everyone
01:12:45.380
else great point great point phil can't hear there samson sorry um and then so people like well look
01:12:53.940
john's the perfect character for the regime to astroturf big fat working class gammon type they can
01:12:58.580
use to roll out and spout a bunch of regime approved nonsense that is contrary to every belief you'd
01:13:03.300
expect him to have which is precisely what these people are commenting on and i wonder who's lining
01:13:09.140
these pockets well he says no one's lining my pockets well okay that that means you're doing
01:13:12.820
it for free john it's called being proud of your country and the right way to behave and conduct
01:13:18.580
yourself now again and be proud of your country without being attached to your people i'm sorry the
01:13:23.380
two are completely what does it mean like what does it mean to be proud of your country if you're proud of
01:13:28.980
the multi-culti uk like what the two are fundamentally contradictory claims i'm proud of the globalist
01:13:36.100
order that is imposing itself on britain and destroying our country i mean john right i agree
01:13:42.660
we shouldn't be like offensive to people we shouldn't be going around bullying people should be polite in
01:13:47.140
all things but what does that mean for the people of luton where they're 31 english is that normal is that
01:13:53.460
the way that this should be going what about london where you can see there's hardly any look at these
01:13:58.100
wards 14 there was one i just went over there i knew them 14 this is a foreign colony mate right i agree
01:14:05.300
we shouldn't go around bullying chinese takeaway owners obviously but being proud of your country when
01:14:11.940
you're being genuinely demographically replaced in these areas and you can see that this is just
01:14:17.540
spreading outwards yeah i mean i live here and it's begun here too like this is not going to stop
01:14:24.260
unless we arrest immigration itself it just has to be the case and it seems that no practical argument
01:14:31.620
penetrates through the skulls of the people in charge they don't care how bad the quality of life
01:14:37.140
in this country is getting they don't care how overpopulated we are they don't care about any of
01:14:41.220
these things so we are going to have to assert a moral argument in order to make the case and that has to
01:14:47.060
be if we continue like this we lose england that's the moral argument england is for the english and
01:14:54.180
we get to decide who lives here and if that means closing the borders so the rest of the country
01:14:59.620
doesn't end up like birmingham or london then i'd say that's perfectly fair isn't it that's not me being
01:15:05.060
hateful that's not being being a racist that's not me saying that every chinese chip shop in the
01:15:10.900
country should be vandalized with the st george's cross which again i think is a terrible thing to do
01:15:15.060
that's me saying we have a right and we do have a right so just think about what you're playing
01:15:22.020
into when you stand on their side when you stand on their side they are in favor of this continuing
01:15:28.180
they're not on your side they hate you can be on their side but they will never be on your side and
01:15:32.660
intrinsically they cringe at you he has to be a bit more disagreeable i agree anyway dan also made the
01:15:40.980
point that i'm going to go out on a limb here and make the assertion that john isn't getting sexually
01:15:44.180
harassed by migrants on the way to school which uh again probably think about the people you're
01:15:48.660
actually defending here john like the the sort of the woke lib types who enjoy the dispossession of
01:15:55.140
the country chinese takeaway as a target is a bit too perfect it's very strange because they're
01:16:00.260
not exactly everyone likes chinese problem everyone likes chinese yeah exactly but like
01:16:05.540
it's such a this is what makes me sort of wonder about the authenticity of it but uh we don't have
01:16:11.620
any evidence to say that it wasn't what's being reported etc etc but one should wonder because like
01:16:19.220
we have we have lots of reasons to question the editorial framing though right because a bunch of
01:16:23.860
mosques was also vandalized and news night didn't be like did you see those mosques that got vandalized
01:16:28.900
because the people watching maybe not be so sympathetic to that but everyone likes their chinese
01:16:32.820
takeaway on a friday on saturday night and obviously the chinese community in britain has done nothing
01:16:37.700
wrong so why why why not use this as the sort of perfect victim of this but like i said don't go and
01:16:44.020
vandalize anything anyway because that doesn't help and that's just going to make us look bad
01:16:47.300
but john you've got to understand man these people kind of hate you and they they will literally
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tell you that they think that you're bad because of the way you look and it's only when you parrot
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the approved lines that they go oh no actually he's a good guy yeah anyway let's uh let's let's
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move on to the uh video comments um square black says we should bully other cultures out if they
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have bullied their way in if you come to my house to put the kettle on i expect to take i expect you
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to take your shoes off well a lot of them haven't bullied their way in as it were a lot of them were
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literally just letting buy our own government uh but we uh we definitely should make sure that we
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aren't just paying them to be here uh tony says hello my fellow ethel stanis oh hello uh diversity
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is our strength the sorry the diversity is our strength the anti-english narrative is the radical
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position and the reason why some zoomers are becoming more like right right it's totally true
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amoth says people of white caucasian descent are the global minority less than 10 percent of the
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global population i believe it's eight percent of the world is a european origin less than a single
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10th yeah and so i'm i'm very tired of us being treated like we're some sort of overwhelming my
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majority that uh basically imposes our will on people all over the world i don't think that's
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what's happening at all um paul patt says milton friedman didn't believe in borders so i mean the
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labor party might pick up a bit of freedom i i think he was basically um saying you can't have
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the welfare state and board and open borders yeah it's a famous famous formula of his still yeah i
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mean he's right obviously and ryan says i'd love you can get big john on the show i'd love to have
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big john on the show yeah more more than happy to talk to him because i mean like i said i'm not
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personally attacking him just think about what's happening uh anyway let's go to the video comments
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yes do not use copyrighted music folks about all of this comment
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so for anyone watching 15 minutes speed painting by sophie who's painting something
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too soon to tell it's not that the painting's bad or anything
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i have the impression that it's gammonzilla i don't think it's meant to be harry potter
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okay but if it is that's kind of based because harry potter really is the representative of kind of
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2000s middle class english person and those people are the ones who have led us to this point
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like the the sort of the the natural blairite constituency so uh yeah base gammonzilla uh let's
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get the next house griffindor is responsible yeah yeah not using food delivery services is absolutely
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the easiest way to push back and you don't need to shame people over it explain it this way just go
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pick it up yourself it's cheaper besides if you're too tired to cook food or don't have time
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then you definitely don't have time and are too tired to defend yourself when you invite an invader
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what i like about california refugees he's got that kind of soft californian accent
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and sort of quite a soft voice and then he comes out with really hard lines it's just like
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okay yeah yeah very based but it's also like it takes you by surprise um but uh but yeah no
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absolutely i i i do my best not to ever get takeaways just because they're bad for you but anyway let's
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it's karen gb news right in the center and then we have pan across to the bbc in the corner where they belong
01:20:53.540
and then times radio kind of in the corner also where they belong
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it's a beautiful sight well good for them that's good one more
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i believe there's one oh okay right that texas gal says ladies now is not the time to be scrolling
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your phone or wearing headphones in public please practice situational awareness and listen to learn
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and learn to listen to that voice in your gut the thing is like the ukrainian girl
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she doesn't have the mental frame of reference for this exactly this is not a problem that ever
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happens in ukraine right she doesn't have this community in ukraine and also just in some cases
01:21:35.620
there is little some people can do yeah even if you know it's not it's not up when you see the video
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he doesn't look like he's dangerous not at all he's just looking out the window why would you think
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anything like even if you were like you know noticing stuff you you still in that situation
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there's no reason she should have thought that she was in danger uh kevin says uh and meanwhile
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in canada people are being told they should not defend themselves their family or their home during
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an invasion yeah i should do a video on that at some point because that really really annoyed me
01:22:07.300
um there was an incident of a home invasion in canada and then was it the mayor or something the
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governor came out and was like um the easiest thing to do is to comply yeah just comply it's like
01:22:15.460
yeah but what if they murder you bro that's the thing that the idea that you can't defend your
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home is an absolute obscenity that's disgusting uh samson we can hear you by the way so can you
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keep it down a little bit please um uh baron von warhawk says don't defend the police fund insane
01:22:31.220
asylums yeah i really mean it like you know this the whole sort of lib attitude of oh well we can
01:22:37.380
just let them into the reincorporate in the society it's like no why would we want to you know if
01:22:43.060
someone's mental and dangerous why would we want that david says i'm a retired teacher the schools are full of
01:22:49.060
full of mummies who advocate for bad behavior yep maureen says uh fun fact in case you need to
01:22:55.060
raise your blood pressure ah yes well my blood pressure is clearly not never high enough uh
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there was a go fund me page set up for de carlos brown who's the guy who stabbed her uh i haven't
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seen it myself but it was taken down because of the backlash apparently it raised fifty thousand
01:23:07.780
dollars in 30 minutes i can't believe i don't know about this one it can be it could be the case so
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the other one yeah they made several trollish accounts yeah and it was fake but it's not
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beyond them think of luigi mangione was the name no no what's the other guy um who killed that white
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kid yeah the uh the one who stabbed him in the uh in the tent in the football field yep he ended up
01:23:31.940
half or something yeah yeah unbelievable so it is there you know so yeah i mean this guy
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and that whole community was sort of cheering the stabbing uh it's just insane yeah someone
01:23:46.420
online says never ever take public transport um just be aware just make sure that there's no one
01:23:51.460
sat behind you like you just how can you do it on public transport it's insane the the requirement of
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it is just crazy yeah michael says on the labor reshuffle corbyn borderline moron who wants to form
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his own english national socialist workers well no he wants to form an islamic national socialist
01:24:08.900
workers uh i i watched the your party uh event that he had the other day and it was just him and
01:24:15.060
muslims i was just like yeah that's why he's angela raider what do you think the natural constituency
01:24:21.140
for this is jeremy yeah we're gonna wait but but he will chew up labor's votes you know he will make
01:24:27.220
it more difficult for the labor party which honestly good like i'm in favor of him being like
01:24:31.540
the left-wing nigel farage like yeah go on go go get all the sort of like you know this sort of
01:24:36.020
20 fringe of the country and suck them up into an unelectable gross commo islamic mass and then we
01:24:44.660
can be done with you forever frankly um jimbo says i think the labor reshuffle is excellent if your goal
01:24:50.660
is to accelerate the replacement of the english look at those numbers uh well i mean this this i tweeted
01:24:55.780
the other day it's like look there's a picture of all the muslims who are in positions of high power in
01:25:00.740
the country it's like well if it was a conquest how would it look different that's the thing
01:25:04.740
genuinely yeah so if he says the edc of these people they could just do what the natives want
01:25:09.940
and they will get loyalty and win elections but no they are betting on the people the non-natives
01:25:14.980
it doesn't matter what you do if you give them everything they want they will still never be loyal
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their goal is to still uh i'm not going to finish that just in case but uh yes indeed and this is just
01:25:25.620
one of their problems and the thing is they get what they deserve because england is still 75 english
01:25:31.060
scotland is like 90 scottish you know wales is still 90 welsh so okay you've got concentrations
01:25:37.780
of foreign communities in fact get it up on the screen actually you've got like concentrations of
01:25:42.740
foreign communities and you can get you know a few dozen you know maybe a hundred not probably not
01:25:48.020
even a hundred like 50 uh you know non-native mps but look at the rest of it man like sorry all the
01:25:55.860
dark blue that's 90 plus percent england yeah 90 plus percent wales sorry what what do you think
01:26:01.940
you're doing here bros like you know that's all going to go to nigel farage and he will have the
01:26:07.380
cities have fallen is is a really big problem it is yeah it must be reversed yes you know even even
01:26:13.540
these areas are still overwhelmingly majority english you know there's a bit of diversity there but a lot
01:26:18.740
of this in this area in particular will be um the diversity that has made out well from england
01:26:25.300
uh so these are people in well-paying jobs uh you know professionals who themselves are like okay i'm
01:26:31.380
gonna buy a house that's half a million in this area because i earn you know 200k a year or something
01:26:35.860
like this these are not the inner city diversity you know if diversity was literally just the people
01:26:40.580
living in these areas no one would really notice or care because it wouldn't be offensive it wouldn't
01:26:45.300
it wouldn't be dangerous it would just be people who are just getting on with their lives but that's
01:26:50.100
not the case and everyone can see it's more like this so uh anyway uh jamie says every person that
01:26:58.500
intends to work in the civil service run as an mp or even a local council should work in a category b
01:27:03.060
prisoner above first especially segregation there are serious issues in these precious british isles
01:27:09.140
i work in a category b uh very few current mps would last a week well no doubt i mean this is
01:27:15.060
just one of those perennial problems second good luck on your good luck in your work
01:27:19.940
yeah god with you yeah god with you yeah um but the the excuse me the the problem of the
01:27:27.460
segregation in the prisons is just going to be something that will never resolve itself while
01:27:32.260
we are a multicultural country yes way forward and frankly the prisons will end up looking like a model
01:27:38.500
for society in at large i mean they will get the lebanese experience exactly it will just be
01:27:44.500
the country will represent what's happening in the prisons um kevin says so now mahmoud uh
01:27:50.260
mahmoud no shabana oh yeah no mahmoud is her name yeah it's so sexery we can safely see in the 600
01:27:56.820
scholarship students from gaza and no doubt the 2000 close relatives will only be the tip of the
01:28:00.900
iceberg yeah pretty much yeah of course she's and they'll make it in a legal way and say we've sold
01:28:05.060
illegal immigration yeah here is a few thousand gazans that we've got for you and by the way some of them
01:28:11.060
might have some training that you might not welcome yes um so sort of adding sprinkling the gazan
01:28:18.740
military experience over the islamic population in britain is a deeply destructive thing and it should
01:28:24.500
be focused on a lot more than it's being focused on it's being used oh the poor gazans there those
01:28:29.940
things are happening to them horrible things are happening to gaza this is absolutely true that
01:28:34.820
doesn't take away the fact that there are severe consequences to bringing in people from gaza here
01:28:41.780
literally just that simple and you don't have to you don't have to support israel to have this
01:28:45.860
opinion no no you you know if you dislike israel that's still a very true fact of the matter you
01:28:52.660
know it just it is not good for us to have these people here also i've been there are several videos of
01:28:58.580
lots of uh arabs who are telling to europeans just stop doing it yeah oh yeah especially saudi
01:29:06.580
yeah the saudis and the uae are going are losing their minds over this because they're worried that
01:29:10.740
they that it's the radicals in europe are more radical than the ones in the middle east because
01:29:16.660
the ones who are in the middle east go to jail yes um this isn't the early 2000s 1990s where they
01:29:22.740
were still funding this stuff uh and it was fully state sponsored this is a different era for the
01:29:27.700
middle east and and they're actually locking these people up and they they know what happens i mean
01:29:31.940
they've got literally the experience of isis running rampant if you just allow the radicals
01:29:36.420
to coalesce into a body and it isis was something like 40 000 people at its peak it was never big
01:29:43.220
and it almost took baghdad they almost about that they they genuinely were like conquering territory
01:29:49.940
so yeah i'm i'm completely with the harrahs when they're like what are you doing you know there's
01:29:54.900
there's a there's a reason that none of the arab countries take palestinian refugees they've had
01:29:58.180
the experience through the 20th century lebanon ended not just lebanon jordan egypt but they've
01:30:03.620
like they've ended up with the syrians have had to fight their own uh palestinian refugees yeah
01:30:07.940
exactly they've all had uprisings against the countries that they've come into so i don't really
01:30:12.660
want them here weirdly i mean i don't mean to sound like a bigger or anything but it's just this
01:30:17.620
repeated insurrectionist attitude how dare you learn from experience yeah there's something about that
01:30:23.140
yeah alex says uh it's funny how the left has spent decades associating patriotism and racism
01:30:28.900
only to have it backfire in their social taboos uh sorry backfire when their social taboos
01:30:33.700
wane and societal pressure collapses and people feel free to be honest and hang flags now they
01:30:38.580
have to trot out big john to try and recapture patriotism but left wing yeah that's basically the
01:30:43.780
issue and i don't think like i said i don't think john's a bad guy or anything i think he doesn't
01:30:49.300
realize what he's being used for yes because that's you know like they are genuinely using
01:30:54.100
you as the housegammon mate uh you don't and i i wouldn't want that danny says uh years ago the
01:30:59.540
left joked about how europeans conquered the world through the inventive use of flags they took that
01:31:03.540
joke literally and put the gay flags everywhere and now everyone's doing it back to them and they
01:31:06.900
lose their minds well that's the point take them seriously and they say it's a method of intimidation
01:31:11.140
so when they're flying their trans flag or their palestine flag or their paxton flag or whatever
01:31:15.060
they view it as a method of intimidation take them seriously um alex says who spells get
01:31:21.460
geet that's a great question and i am i am sympathetic to this are these native english speakers geet
01:31:29.860
i've never seen that like it seems deliberately spelled incorrectly to appear stupid yeah if you
01:31:38.020
asked a school teacher how common is it for people to spell get with two e's they'd probably say that it's
01:31:43.620
extremely unlikely which suggests something a little bit deliberate and it's just whenever
01:31:48.100
you phonetically say get is the truncated e sound so why would you put a double e but um but anyway
01:31:54.660
omar says the housegammon housegammon definitely has a better ring to it than football account
01:32:00.180
i bet the 77th brigade are giving powerpoint presentations on it as we speak um well the
01:32:04.820
thing is it's kind of true isn't it it's the housegammon you know you get to be the the hicklib for the
01:32:10.420
replacement of the english people in their own country uh i don't know why you would agree to
01:32:14.500
it uh hector says everything about that chinese thing feels like hoax it is really weird because i
01:32:20.580
can't like working class communities love chinese takeaways so it's like why why would you i've i've
01:32:29.140
i've never heard in all of my life having chinese takeaways of any problem with like you know social
01:32:34.980
problem with having chinese takeaways i've seen i've seen them everywhere you know i've used them
01:32:38.900
everywhere i i like like big john i i'm kind of associated with chinese takeaways my my you know
01:32:43.540
my family loves chinese takeaways like so like why would you do that to them that's a really weird
01:32:49.300
thing but uh but anyway i got no answer but we're over time and uh we have other things that we've got
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01:33:07.460
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01:33:15.540
about this was an unprovoked conflict yeah conflict guys come on let's be honest here everybody knew
01:33:21.700
that it was provoked how did you how did you get nato's borders up to russians borders it was not a
01:33:26.740
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