The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1465
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Summary
In Episode 1465, the Lotus Seaters discuss how Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey was a complete disaster, the police cover-up of Anne Whittacombe's murder, and David Lamy's attempt to cover up the murder of migrant crime.
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Hello everyone, welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Seaters. Today is Monday the 20th of July
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2026 and this is episode number 1465. I'm pleased to be joined by Brother Fras and Brother Nate
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and we're going to discuss how Odyssey was utter crap, the police's deceptions to deflect from
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Anne Whittacombe's murder and David Lamy's effort to cover up migrant crime. But before we begin,
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We do have a Realpolitik episode at 3 p.m. today, live with Firas.
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Firas, briefly, what are you going to talk about?
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Iran's strategy in the war and why the Americans are more stuck, oil prices blowing up, and maybe if we have time, J.D. Vance's panic.
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Okay, be there, 3 p.m., watch Firas's Realpolitik.
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Right, so should we start? I suppose we should.
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yeah okay sorry okay so i ended up watching nolan's odyssey the movie and it was worse
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than i thought i thought that wokeness was going to be the issue and it ended up being much much
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much worse than i thought it would be it was an absolute disaster and i have bad news for you if
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you are listening to so-called conservative figures, a lot of them don't understand when
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they're fed a radically egalitarian slop. And that was what this movie was. Before we say more about
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Okay. So The Odyssey is a movie that was going to be controversial, and there has been some
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controversy surrounding it for about a year now yeah about that yeah and we were only
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aware of how the movie was being marketed and the marketing was atrocious but and that created a
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negativity bubble not a negativity bubble a negativity fatigue because for a long time
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myself included, were talking about Helen of Troy wasn't black. And there is only so many times you
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can say this. And that led to a negativity fatigue, which now led to several people jump ship and say
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there's a new trend, a trend that's going to be positive about the movie. Let's jump on it. That's
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what several people did. We had Tom Holland, who was praising the Odyssey and trashing critics of
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it, who is sharing here an article by The Guardian saying, an absolute triumph. First
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reactions to Christopher Nolan's odyssey are ecstatic. Now, when The Guardian praises
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something, I tend to be negatively disposed towards it. I don't know if that's just me,
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but yeah. Why wouldn't you trust The Guardian? Yep. That's so bigoted. And it wasn't just
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Tom Holland. It was people like Ben Shapiro who started lambasting right-wing critics of the movie
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saying that it is a masterpiece. I hear he is a Christopher Nolan fan, but he said several things
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that I take issue with. Let's look here what he said. If you want to make the case everybody needs
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to be Greek to be authentic, I think you can make that case. If you want to make the case everybody
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has to be white. I think that that is a lesser case because white people and Greek are not quite
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the same thing. Right. So, yeah. It doesn't take me out of the film. Brother, Stelios. I'm the
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certified Kang. Stelios is an ethnic. What's going on? All of us Mediterranean, Ben. Right. Okay. So
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he said that he's okay with the woke casting. But one thing is that Ben Shapiro is supposed to be
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against wokeness. And people who are against wokeness, I think, are supposed to be against
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casting that is meant just to represent people, which means that the movie is becoming a tool for
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activism and propaganda instead of being a portrayal or depiction of the epic. And also,
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yeah, okay, I'm just not going to comment about the other thing. I'm only going to say that I'm
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sure he wouldn't be happy with a Black Moses. I wouldn't be happy with a Black Moses or a Korean
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Moses either. Schindler's List featuring only Indians? I wouldn't be happy with that either.
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And I wouldn't be out saying that I'm okay with the diversity casting of a potential movie of
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that sort. Ben Shapiro wasn't the only one. Dave Rubin was one of the many ones who started saying
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the Odyssey was an absolute masterpiece. Claire Lehman is saying if the Odyssey was actually
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woke, Penelope would not have remained faithful to Odysseus for 20 years, and Odysseus would have
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been welcomed home into a polycule. She is constantly saying that all the critics of the
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movie are very negative and they don't know what they're talking about. When I watched the movie,
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I really wanted to make peace with it and say, fine, okay, most of my negativity bit,
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most of my negative disposition was owing to the, to X. That ends up X was correct.
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Let me just give you also here a perspective from someone who I do respect in, in several ways. I
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don't, I'm not trying to trash her, Melissa Chen. She says something interesting here,
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and I do have a good response and I hope she takes it into consideration. She's talking about
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how there was a woke puritanism in the movies, which led to some very boring and stale scenario
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and movies, which I think is correct. And she says here, however, the rights reflexive boycotts
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now punish perceived deviations from correct representation. Even when they come from
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directors who largely stayed outside, progressive orthodoxy, the result is a narrowing of the
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imaginative space in which ambitious, large-scale work can even be attempted without immediate
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partisan judgment. The classics are not static relics, sealed in amber. Homer, yeah, and she's
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saying essentially that they're plastic. Here she says, mythic archetypes possessed a remarkable
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elasticity. I will say that, no, they don't represent, they don't possess infinite elasticity.
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And they certainly don't possess an elasticity that changes the meaning of the myth,
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the meaning of the epic. And also, one thing is that conservatives, or those who call themselves
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conservatives, are so much focused on the color and the race thing and base superficial level
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wokeness that they ended up now being fine with a little bit of wokeness. And that's a problem
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with conservatism, because if conservatism is the attitude of resisting fast changes,
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then that means that they're okay with slow changes. And then it's one of those people who
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are saying, hey, an occasional cheat meal here or there, and eventually down the line, you wake up,
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you're precious from the movie, and you don't know who you are and how you got there. Because you
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were okay with slow changes, they didn't seem radical enough. And that's the problem with
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so-called conservatism. So I'll just be very brief with the woke bits. We've talked about
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Helen of Troy not being black, and we've talked about Greeks not being represented.
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i want to tell you three things and i'll start from you know the i'll move i'll ascend the
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cheeseometer so nate you have watched the movie haven't you yeah how do you think uh was the scene
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with um charlie's throne playing calypso and her being in the early ozempic stage
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yeah well yeah i mean it was it was kind of a throwaway scene largely to be honest i mean
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And not a great depiction of what actually happened in the original material, for sure.
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You haven't, so you're redeemable in the eyes of the audience, unlikely?
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So let me just tell you what the epic says about Odysseus and the island of Calypso
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and what the movie depicted Odysseus and Calypso as being
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who was essentially abusing him sexually for seven years.
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He never forgot home and she wouldn't let him go.
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because Zeus thought that Odysseus was essentially a heroic man
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Instead, we have rom-com sleazeball types of Calypso being in love with Odysseus,
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feeding him lotuses so he would forget, which didn't happen in the epic,
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because it's very important for Odysseus to remember his home.
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Hence, the whole Gnostos of Odysseus being the theme of the epic was absent from the movie.
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He was just a guy who wanted to go home, but there are all the other emotional aspects of his thinking about home or completely absent.
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And at some point down the line, she was so interested in authenticity and so interested in genuine love, L-O-V-E, that she understood that because he forgot who he was, she fell in love with the shade and she didn't want to be in love with the shade.
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so she made him remember and she essentially let him go and she told him i may have misheard here
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because the sound here was atrocious maybe that was in the in the screening i i was present
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nolan has a massive issue with sound mixing it's one of his common issues that he's never corrected
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ever his sound mixing is just terrible it was atrocious so i think she told him take that with
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pinch of salt. Zeus hates you. Try and go back to Ithaca. And that was another major distortion
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of the epic because the movie was unheroic, radically egalitarian, leveling down, slop.
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It didn't portray Odysseus as a hero. It didn't portray his homecoming as a heroic homecoming.
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It elevated his crew constantly. It brought him down constantly. It inserted things that were
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fabricated by Nolan to make him look worse. He inserted elements from Virgil's Aeneid to make
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Odysseus look as the fraudster. And at the end of the day, I was asking, well, if he's such a bad
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person, why did he get home? Or why wasn't he slain at home by his wife like Agamemnon was,
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according to the basic, the fundamental aspects of the Greek lore? None of that was in the movie.
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In the movie, he was punished for the Trojan horse, and it just so happened that he was
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less guilty, just a tiny bit less guilty than the suitors. And when he slayed the suitors,
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it was just an issue of him being a bit less guilty. So it wasn't so much a heroic thing.
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We will get more into that. Another woke thing, Cersei. Cersei in the epic is a very powerful
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sorceress goddess. She's essentially turning everyone into swine. Here she was portrayed
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as a poor little woman who was scared of being sexually abused.
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and the movie tried to portray her in a very uh sympathetic way right yeah she did turn his man
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into swine but she did this because she was a scared little woman living alone being afraid
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of marauders and she did have a sister though yeah what happened with her a crow oh yeah she
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turned her sister into a crow because they get on better that way okay that's dialogue from the
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movie that's a start they got they get along better that way i missed that well that's brilliant
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she wanted to be she was she appreciated the quiet maybe she was a she was a gossip and she
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didn't want to hear it but yeah also the the dialogue was in several respects atrocious i'm
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not just going to talk about the supposedly uh if you are a feminist you would want cersei to be
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a very powerful woman capable of acting on her own rather than being a sort of terrified broken
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woman who's simply out there to protect herself but that is simply erased she's turned into this
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broken shell of what she actually was in in the epic yeah i think pretty much pretty much fair
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enough um to be honest on the woke aspect of it was the least bad thing about it right right and
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And on Calypso, so Odysseus doesn't consume of the lotuses in the epic, right?
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But he is made to partake in Nolan's rendition.
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And he's made to sort of forget the purpose of his journey.
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And it's only the favor of Calypso that allows him to return.
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Whereas in the epic, in reality, he's loved by Zeus and that is why he's saved.
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So I have several reasons why I think this is egalitarian slop.
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And because he's loved by the gods, he gets to return home.
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And when he gets to return home, he's an instrument of divine justice.
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so it's a hero's home coming and a hero who never forgot his mission sorry may i interrupt you just
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like one more time when he returns home he cleanses yes his home yes of the foreign interlopers
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yes who had been there not just for him it's local interlopers who didn't belong there
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essentially and restores order and justice and this is the right and heroic thing to do
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Yes, we are definitely going to talk again about this movie
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but I'm going to talk about the philosophical vandalism of it.
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is postponed because primarily for two reasons. First of all, because his crew is constantly
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getting in the way and his crew is offending the gods and his collateral damage. And then because
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of he angers Poseidon by blinding Polyphemus. Now, several parts of the epic that show this
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are omitted. For instance, the bag of the winds. Aeolus, the god of the wind, gives him the bag
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of the winds. Here is a beautiful depiction of this. And when they are just miles away from
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Ithaca, Odysseus is asleep, and his crew thinks it's gold, and they try to scam him to steal gold.
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And then all the winds open, and then there's a resulting hurricane that blows the ship,
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of course. And he misses seven years, essentially. Nothing of the sort is there. In fact, there were
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many insertions in the movie that changed completely the character of Odysseus and his
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moral status. And they presented him as constantly dishonoring his crew and his men and his soldiers.
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Essentially, they portrayed him as someone who was a trickster for the love of the game.
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Very brief, very brief mention of the distinction between the epic and the movie.
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When in the epic they land on the land of the Cyclops, Odysseus and some of his men go on a reconnaissance mission, and Homer writes there, Odysseus wants to see if the inhabitants of that land are God-fearing people, or they are savages without respect for right or wrong.
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Homer puts this in order to draw a distinction between Odysseus and the Cyclops.
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What Nolan did, because he tries to level everything down, that's the spirit of radical
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leveling down egalitarianism of this movie, he is portraying Odysseus as someone who refuses
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to bury his men, who were devoured in the epic, there was no corpse left, who refuses
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to bury them, and his men tell him in the movie, we have to honor our men, we have to
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bury them. And he says in the movie, well, we'll honor them by leaving them.
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This was a complete fabrication from Nolan's mind, which functioned as a means of leveling down,
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leveling down the playing field, morally speaking. And instead of presenting the Cyclops as the
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violator of divine justice and the law of Zeus, and Odysseus as the virtuous one. He was presented
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as essentially someone who was a bit less guilty than Polyphemus. And another one, the scene with
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Sinon came out on essentially Virgil, Virgil's Aeneid. Aeneid was the poem that Augustus told
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Virgil to write in order to say, hey, listen, we need to rival the Greeks in culture. I need a
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Homeric epic. And instead of writing a completely different one with Remus and Romulus, Virgil
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portrayed the Romans as descending from the Trojans. That's why in this movie, we have
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a very simplistic, you know, portrayal, Achaeans, bad Trojans, good. No context, just a conman who
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just completely destroyed them, conned them, and led to them being massacred. There was no context
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behind it. And it was just tricking people and frauding people and killing them for the love of
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the game. So there is the scene with Paige playing Sinon, a character who was defrauded multiple
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times by Odysseus, and that led to his death. So that came there again in order to bring down
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Odysseus and make everyone else as the victim of Odysseus's cunning. And the issue is here,
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and again, I will say this because a lot of people are talking about the movie without
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knowing about it. His cunning is not that of an amoral Machiavellian. He does have the element
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of cunning in it, and in some respects represents modern warfare and a departure from the ideal of
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Achilles, let's say. But he always stays reverent in the epic, whereas in the movie,
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he's just essentially portrayed as an immoral Machiavellian. I will just focus on some things
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that Jonathan Pajot has said, because I think that for a long time, he has shared some good
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insights about symbolism. But here I completely disagree with him, and I depart completely with
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his assessment of the situation. Let me just tell you some of the things he said. He says,
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there's only one person in Nolan's Odyssey speaking Greek, and he is held captive by the
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men of Odysseus. And he's asking them in Greek, who are you? Are you the Sea Peoples? And an
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indian replies in english we are greeks now um i think that this is essentially leaving greeks
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out of it or trying to to take them why is it supposed that lupita nyong'o has to be represented
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um uh an indian has to be represented as member of you know the the crew a korean has to be
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represented as a member of a crew but a greek must not shouldn't there was a korean yes
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i sort of turned up like midway through the movie as well seriously just sort of was like
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yes not that at least a rooftop korean who he thought the sirens were k-pop and he just
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swam through the sirens and he was devoured right so when i saw this i said that this is
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this is atrocious, and this is absolutely horrendous and disgusting. But Jonathan Peugeot
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was very happy with it, and he called it the masterpiece, because he also said that, as he
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says here, most of us in Europe, the Italian, British, French, and even Scandinavians, have
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identified with Troy for thousands to more than 2,000 years, but everyone's shocked that Agamemnon's
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army is seen in a negative light for the movie. I wasn't aware this was a football match.
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i i'm i'm not aware that anyone is reading the iliad and suddenly starts standing for agamemnon
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um i'm not aware of any greek who i'm not aware of any passage in homer that presents
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the trojans in a sort of you know these are the filthy trojans it's if you're if you see it as a
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the meaning of the epic. But okay, it's the World Cup here.
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Yeah, the Achaeans, yes. And here, Jonathan Peugeot has a video where he is saying essentially,
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that he got initially, he was a member of the criticism of the movie, but he saw it,
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it was a Trojan horse, but go watch it. And it ends up sort of being a double trickster thing,
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who's presented as a strong and brave man in the marketing,
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but ends up being someone who dies in a really memey way.
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And the weirdest thing is how Page agreed to the role.
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that's a key aspect of it. And that's where all the theological aspect is being lost by several
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of the people who rushed to portray this as a sort of, hey, yeah, they were actually the bad guys.
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That's where they do want moral clarity. But when it comes to everything else,
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they don't want moral clarity. It's all a egalitarian graciousness. So you can't understand
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the Greek lore without understanding Hesiod's Theogony and the myth of the construction of the
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world. And you can't understand the lore of the Greek world without understanding
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the importance of Metis. So when Zeus, I'll be very brief, when Zeus won the Titanomachy against
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Kronos, who was an unjust ruler by all means, who was devouring his own children, Zeus married
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Metis. He was his first wife. And Metis represents cunning and wisdom. And that is what allowed Zeus
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to differ from Kronos. He swallowed her. She was pregnant with Athena. Athena grew out of his head.
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and Athena is representing the combination of might and wisdom. And by swallowing her,
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that wasn't a form of killing her. It was an issue of making her traits his own. Zeus forever will
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embody the wise, supreme, authoritative figure after doing this. And the purpose is not there to
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the meaning there is not that you should be a con man or that Zeus is a con man.
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The meaning there is that in some respects where there is chaos and when it comes to humans like
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Odysseus, you find yourself in a chaotic, war-like situation. You're caught in the crossfire.
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What you should do is try to restore order as fast as possible and get to go back home.
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that's the meaning of metis and i'll be very brief in addressing a few lines of criticism
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i hear about this because i heard well i addressed but i'll just find i'll just end with this i hear
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someone who i consider a friend and i didn't want to quote post him or something because
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he'll get all the negativity of all this and stuff he said well listen i'm a christian
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I'm not gonna go to cultural wars for a pagan epic why should I I don't care I just want to
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watch a movie it's not just you shouldn't look at it in terms of it's the subversion of a pagan
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epic so I don't care that's not it for a long for a first of all lots of the themes in the
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Iliad and the Odyssey are also there in Christianity if you if you care to actually
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read the greek lore more importantly christ christianity cannot be understood without
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greece and rome it's it's the union between jerusalem athens and rome that gives us christianity
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and so if you undermine one of them you do undermine christianity yes and let's not and
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the importance of bringing order and not being a trickster is a pretty high up their christian
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value at the end of the day right it's not and also pretty bad defense to begin with
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exactly and also let's bear in mind that a lot of the theological debates that were fundamental to
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the identity of christianity were using the language of aristotle for instance you can't
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have the debates in the in nice and christianity without uh without talking about without referring
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to the notion of substance that Aristotle coined. You can't even formulate the question
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of whether the son has the same substance with the father without referring to the notion
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of the substance. But also, it's not about that. It's for another thing, and I'll be
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very brief, is that for the next 20, 25 years until the next adaptation, the next generation
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who isn't going to read as much as the previous ones did, sadly, the more time goes by, people
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tend to read less, will have an idea of Odysseus and the Odyssey based on that movie, because it's
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low effort. They won't be bothering to reading the epic. And the more this happens, and the more
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you're okay with it, because you don't want to fight the culture war, because you say that
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because you're a Christian, this is a pagan epic. The more you do this, the more you're okay with
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a whole culture that is communicating radically egalitarian sloppy propaganda that functions as
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a sabotage for people to get in contact with any aspect of Western tradition. And I'd say also the
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human canon, any aspect of the human canon that tries to inspire them to be virtuous, instead of
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starting by saying, it's all grayish, do not aspire to virtue. That's why. And last thing, I'll end the
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segment with the following. If they did want to represent black people, they could have done
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easily. They could have inserted scenes from the lore of the ancient Greek mythology, referring to
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the Ethiopians, and for instance, King Memnon, who was an ally of the Trojans, and Achilles killed
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him, they could easily have somehow involved that. Nolan wasn't an enemy of inserting things
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from other traditions. He could have inserted something from this tradition, let alone
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fabrications that he did. If it were about representation, we would have a very different
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movie. The conservatives who are okay with it, they don't have an understanding of the epic.
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They don't understand that they're being spoon-fed, radically egalitarian slop.
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And I'd say that they should be a bit more cultured. And two things were missing here
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that would have been cinematic gold and i'll end with these number one a scene where odysseus tries
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to hug the ghost of his mother in the underworld who had died waiting for him and they tried to
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embrace each other and they just couldn't because uh she was a ghost i think that would have been
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cinematic gold and also well it would if they'd crafted a character of odysseus that you actually
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connected with on an emotional level rather than have him be yeah guilty of stuff so that's yeah
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correct and the scene with Odysseus is absolutely with Achilles is absolutely pivotal Achilles is
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just present in one scene where he tells Odysseus as a ghost essentially that he's the king of the
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underworld and he would trade all the eternal glory he conquered for a for a day a peaceful day
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the meaning isn't go and slay people for glory,
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And if you fall from it, or if you deviate from it,
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or if you're thrown away from it by any sort of,
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by the forces of chaos, to combine the traits of Athena, Metis, and power, ingenuity, wisdom,
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force, in order to establish order as fast as possible and return home. That was the meaning
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of the Odyssey. That was the meaning that any sort of adaptation that could have toyed, of course
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they could have, they wouldn't be, you know, to the letter, faithful to the text. That was the
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spirit that they had to respect and they didn't thanks for that brother stellios much appreciated
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um so should i briefly read the comments yeah okay one or two quickly okay quickly uh that's
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that's around the name says reminder that ben shapiro wants the uh is fine with a brown uh
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Browning of America. And he says, truly our greatest ally. And Orchigdor says, many of the
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YouTubers I watch also bring up the breaking of Zeus's law in the movie. Your thoughts, Stelios?
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I think I really did touch upon it. It's the suitors and polyphemers who are breaking
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the law. So let's go to the next segment. Okay. So let's talk about a few things.
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Well, I'm sure you remember, but right after the Anne Whittacombe murder, a story came out discussing the arrests of 12 individuals, 13 individuals, who were going to conduct a terrible terrorist attack against an Ahmadiyya Muslim gathering.
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Yes, lives were saved, apparently, from utter horror.
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Well, yes, the head of government, the head of state is the king.
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Like the ha-ha thing is a mix-up that the Ashkenazi Jews get into
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because the Sephardi Jews still have the ha,
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and they can pronounce the Arabic ha, the Ashkenazis don't,
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so they get it with a ha, and hence you get Mahmood instead of Mahmood.
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Long story. You know, now we're getting a few more details about Anne Whittacombe's murderer.
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And it seems that he was a bit obsessed with Nigel Farage and he was a bit obsessed with
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presumably the far right. And that kind of explains what the police did and how they lied.
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I mean, just to remind you here, on the 13th of July, Ms. Whittacombe was discovered on the 9th.
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The police came out and said that they were investigating something related to extreme right-wing terrorism.
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And that they had arrested 12 people who were planning an attack.
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And they recommended that the event, that the Islamic event be canceled.
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The commander of the counterterrorism policing in London said,
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after becoming aware of a potential serious threat towards the Islamic event in Suffolk,
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we have moved extremely quickly to make a number of arrests in various locations across the country.
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she thanked her colleagues and declared a major incident in response to this threat
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forceful isn't it pretty forceful indeed i know this news may be concerning to the public and
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particularly those in the muslim community given that we believe the intended target was an islamic
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event we will not hesitate to act if there is a potential threat wonderful stuff wonderful stuff
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And Keir Starmer jumped in saying that this was shocking news the day the police were investigating a credible, serious threat targeted at an Islamic event in Suffolk.
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I will not tolerate any attacks on our Muslim communities or any form of anti-Muslim hatred.
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uh shabana mahmoud in parliament spoke and let's maybe listen to her i'm having trouble with this
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age unresponsive oh well no problem but she spoke to parliament explaining that there was a
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terrible threat and that she had acted against it in her capacity as Home Secretary.
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And she said that terrorism police are leading an investigation into a credible threat.
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This is deeply concerning for British Muslims. We must stand against hatred and we must unite
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around our shared belief in a country that is open, generous, and tolerant to all our communities.
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lives were undoubtedly saved that sounds a lot like speculation doesn't it i mean that sounds
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like these individuals who are arrested we're going to definitely kill people
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and we're plotting a mass murder i mean you can't take anything else from that really
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say again can't take anything else from that really can i mean their swift and effective
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response that undoubtedly saved lives. We can't doubt it. Nope. That means murder was being
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planned. Trust me, bro. Then, after the news of Anne Whittacombe's murder had somehow faded a
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little bit from the public eye, and while everybody was a bit distracted with the World Cup
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finals oh there's an update from counterterrorism policing it's a pretty serious update and it says
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so most of the people involved were released without charges and there wasn't enough evidence
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to bring in new charges so did the moon make them crazy and they went on a rampage the rampage was
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sort of stopped and now they're okay well it was there was one guy who was definitely arrested and
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charged what was he charged for having extendable batons and having a stun gun where in his home
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after it was searched so we went from there was a credible terrorist threat and undoubtedly lives
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were saved by swift and effective police action to we search somebody's home and it turns out that
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he had a couple of sticks and a taser brilliant there is um so i i know someone actually knows
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one of these people right that was arrested um and there's potentially some miscommunication
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going on maybe it's true maybe it's not i don't know but there is a sort of a thought that uh
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homes were bugged right believe it or not really yeah there's a strong there's a strong suspicion
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okay people's homes were bugged i mean just speaking about the kinds of people who are
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arrested here an 82 year old man yeah and a 60 year old man
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do we maybe he feels young young at heart or maybe nearing the end of his life he was considering
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becoming a suicide bomber using what two batons like what what exactly what exactly was the plan
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here what were the what were these people arrested for and uh it seemed that you know sorry let's go
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back we missed a couple of links um it seems that these individuals were uh completely not planning
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a terrorist attack of any kind. And it seems that the lady involved in their arrest, the head of
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counterterrorism policing, she has a point, she has a post on LinkedIn with the title
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And she goes on about her wonderful career and how she was promoted very quickly and so on and so
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forth. And how important it is to promote women. You know what, I'm a superhero at night. You know
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Well, because some of the favorite arms of the state
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were pretty busy in demonizing Anne Whittacombe,
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Hope Not Hate deleted a page from their website
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um basically she is accused of being a homophobe which is kind of she said things that were
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the standard position of pretty much every catholic who was in james martin it was all
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in line with her religion yeah uh i do not think that homosexuality can be promoted as an equally
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valid lifestyle to marriage well obviously marriage is fecund and productive homosexuality
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isn't you end up buying babies and we see the horrors that come with that uh she told somebody
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not to be disgusting because they were basically being a bit too romantic on live television
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yeah fair enough stop fornicating in front of in my presence it's it's it's not that big of a deal
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uh they quote her saying that you know some people are surprised that i have gay friends
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yeah of course i have friends that i disagree with otherwise i wouldn't have any friends i
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disagree with everybody on something. That seems pretty tolerant of her, but they somehow managed
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to cast that as a big example of intolerance. I've never understood why intelligent interviewers
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express surprise that I have gay male friends. As I point out, if I chose my friends on the basis
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that I must first agree with all of their views, I would have to exclude not only homosexuals,
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all those who are divorced, living in sin, having children out of wedlock, having abortions,
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known to have taken drugs holding uh strong left-wing views and certainly unbelievers
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yes i oppose gay marriage but do plenty but so do plenty of gays so do they take this down
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that they took that website down but they had used that example of i would argue a lot of
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tolerance had a lot of generosity to cast her as a homophobe uh and then she's accused of being
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and they use that as a huge attack against her.
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Like becoming a Catholic is something that you should attack.
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uh she appeared with somebody who has questioned the narrative uh the jewish chronicle said that
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she appeared on something that is anti-semitic okay everything's anti-semitic according to
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someone and she's terrible because she defended the death penalty most of the country wants the
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death penalty yes yes and somebody tony here makes the observation that you know we know about
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the murder the police got the murder at his home address and now it's being leaked that he had
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uh newspaper clippings of nigel farage pinned to the wall meaning that they knew at the time
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of the arrest that there was a political connection but the police said initially
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The Devon police said it was not political and it was not terrorism related and there's nothing to see here.
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And they went even as far as to tell Nigel Farage that it was a burglary gone wrong.
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Was it the job of prevent, to prevent it or not exactly?
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Yeah, but see, he's not a right winger, so he's not a subject of it.
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a hard-left activist who expressed hatred for him many, many times.
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An intolerant individual obsessed with Soviet communism.
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yeah yeah checking out anti-british pro-palestine content anti-police posts uh okay
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so he's seen it seems that he was a moderator on a subreddit called green and pleasant
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and the lefties say the people on there are left-wing nutters it shocked me and i'm not
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easily shocked. And you see that these guys are still going on with more attacks on Whittacombe,
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calling her ugly, making fun of the fact that she maintained her chastity,
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this is the world according to reddit and it's reddit really is just an awful place yeah exactly
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and it's really important to remember that you know hope not hate who commissioned a hit piece
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on miss witticom have always been a part of the government under labor they were there under
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Starmer and now they're back under Burnham. Is there one member of Hope Not Hate who has been
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essentially gone to the government, accepted in the government with an important role?
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More than one. More than one. So Alison Phillips, board member of Hope Not Hate and formerly of
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The Mirror, she basically is very proud of supporting Hope Not Hate and she is now Andy
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Burnham's director of transition so she's managing the transition between Burnham and Starmer
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she wants more diversity and she thinks that the media isn't doing enough diversity maybe
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she can have a word with Christopher Nolan he you know maybe we can look at that remember the
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police said it wasn't political now we know that it is and burnham hired another person from hope
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not hate matthew mcgregor and he's going to be his director of political strategy now remember
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remember morgan mcsweeney was involved with hope not hate back in 20 2008 to 2010 this is why i
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find the the current argument that people are making burnham's going to be way worse look at
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these it's like this has already happened this has already happened people associated with hope not
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hate were always just a continuation come on yeah yeah exactly exactly uh and they were basically
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always a part of the uh of the government there's a couple of posts here alison phillips
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ceo of labor together labor together morgan maxweeney yeah yeah so that's they were always a
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big part of it. John Crudas also tied to Morgan McSweeney. So they've been a part of the government
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for quite some time. And this hasn't changed. They commissioned a hit piece on Anne Whittacombe.
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She ended up getting murdered. They're still in government. And I'm a big fan of when there's an
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Islamic terrorist attack questioning Muslims about what are your views on this? And what are your
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views on these interpretations of Islamic scripture or these verses of Islamic scripture
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that advocate for killing and murder and things of that sort. I'm a big fan of that. I don't see
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anybody in the media. You can't really do that with left-wingers, can you? Asking the left-wingers
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about this kind of stuff. Because that would be quite revealing, wouldn't it? You can't do it.
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But also everything's political, but now this wasn't. But this wasn't. Everything's political
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except for the stuff that I say isn't political.
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but do indeed by all means politicize Joe Cox's murder.
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And the fact that the police would go as far as to basically
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apparently severely inflate this supposed right-wing plot
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that ended so far with no charges related to terrorism
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so far it might change but if they had had evidence that there was going to be a mass
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casualty event ah well yeah they wouldn't they wouldn't have released them yeah they wouldn't
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have released them right they they definitely wouldn't have released them and also they'd be
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so quick to to release that information but yeah they were going to do this this this that no no
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contrast this with the slowness of releasing any details about Whittacombe's murder why is that
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why is that now zia had a correct take and when he's right he's right she misled parliament
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yeah yeah shabana mahmoud misled parliament she stood in parliament and said that there was a
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serious and credible threat and she said that people were going to die and the police say that
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there was no evidence to support anybody being charged with any offenses linked to the alleged
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threat. That's a bit of a climb down. And that's a bit of a huge lie told to Parliament by Shabana
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Mahmoud. Are there going to be consequences? Faraj on X hasn't said anything about this, by the way.
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As usual, Zia is to the right of Faraj. Fair enough, whatever. But this is a resigning offense.
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inflating a terrorist threat to spin a narrative
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The conservatives should be calling for Mahmoud's resignation.
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because if she's willing to do this on a security issue,
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That's why extra narratives that are being circulated when something is inconvenient, something inconvenient is discussed.
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It's just that people's attention will gravitate also to quantity.
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And they are essentially flooding the zone with allegations of far-right terrorism threats to cover up the actual threats that are in this country.
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and the bbc is obviously playing its big part in this because when the arrests happened
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it was plastered all over the bbc but uh when the police said that no charges
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it didn't even make it on the suffolk regional page
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nada well it doesn't fit the narrative does it it doesn't fit the narrative and that's all
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these people care about. This is a level of dishonesty that is genuinely worrying.
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And it just means that everybody, anybody can be arrested for some imagined offense,
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if it helps the politicians spin their narrative. And it's really important to understand who said
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what to whom when. Like, when did the police discover these 12 individuals? What did they
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actually suspect them of? What did they communicate to the home office? What did the home office
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communicate to number 10? How did Starmer and Mahmoud end up with these coordinated statements?
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And who organized all of this? Because this is pretty serious. This is as serious as it gets.
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and there should be a record of these communications there definitely is
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people have the right to see it i won't be conducive to the public good no they won't
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release it you see but this is something that is conducive to the public good oh smooth
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islander will tell you what should be done in our current times and how should we address
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the mess that uh that we're in and we have the sixth issue here it's 14.99 excellent work
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excellent it's not expensive it's worth every penny you should buy it now right do you want
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to read uh yeah i have one comment here uh hapsification how surprising someone that looks
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like a reddit moderator turns out to be a reddit moderator i am shocked shocked well not that
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shocked okay i don't know if i can read the next one but i'd like to it's okay oh let's go to you
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let's go oh come on that's a random name deserves it i'll read it for you when athena portrayed by
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zendaya burst out of zeus's head her first words of wisdom were yo we was olympians and shit
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Well, yeah, it's going to be an interesting one, this.
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So, let's talk about the migrant crime cover-up that is currently happening.
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Well, yeah, I guess if you remove his cries for...
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Reparations and sort of a focus on ethnicity that only benefits him.
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Would he look at Haiti and say, hey, I want to be left alone.
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so basically yeah ministry of justice via david lammy of course is taking legal action to avoid
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publishing conviction data broken down by nationality which is a truly fascinating thing
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it's i mean the action itself betrays the outcome or betrays what they're trying to hide right i mean
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the headline and the story that's that yeah i mean that is it isn't it really yes segment over
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Sorry to interrupt you there for a second, but I think it's worth it.
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I think something like 5% of crime ends up with a charge.
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So the conviction rate will still hide the sheer magnitude of the crisis.
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Well, and that's also only crimes that are actually reported, remember?
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Except to get a police report for insurance purposes.
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And he's trying to hide just the tip of the iceberg.
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So we'll just read a little bit of this article.
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So the Ministry of Justice is seeking to overturn a ruling
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So there's already a ruling that, yeah, we're going to release this.
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And the Ministry of Justice is like, not on my watch.
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That's basically what they're trying to say.
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um and so obviously the information commissioner um ruled that the data uh for for nationality of
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of offenders was was to be released right and that was in england and wales from 2018 to 2024
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so it's not even actually a massive sort of you know spectrum of data i mean you you could go
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back significantly further than that and yes good lord would they try and hide that i'm sure
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um but yeah so the center for migration control which is a think tank asked the ministry of
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justice to reveal the total number of convictions broken down by nationality and offenses for the
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seven years under a freedom of information uh request now that's all what's also important to
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note is that though there'll be substantial amount of people within that data again we talk about the
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tip of the iceberg but there'll be a substantial amount of people within that uh that are considered
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british because they have a piece of paper well yeah obviously you're not that i'll be on crime
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data thankfully sure about that um it's that name uh but again so it's even worse than
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or it would be even worse if you were to calculate it down to uh nationality of birth yes like
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birthplace location um so this is really when we're talking about the tip of the iceberg i mean
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it really is just the tip of the iceberg the data it's going to show is it's actually not
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i mean if it's bad enough that they're trying to hide it i mean it's way worse in reality it just
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really is so what's happening is and the pushback is the ministry of justice claims that the cost
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of providing the information would be disproportionate and that some of the data
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could lead to the identification of individuals
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in a breach of their rights to privacy if it was published.
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Given the numbers, there's no way to identify an individual.
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You can identify the average man or the average member of the group,
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but that's a statistical entity, not a physical entity.
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But just imagine if the data were actually showing,
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or several of the MENA groups that we are talking about a lot
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well that's the thing isn't it you know if it was the other way around you couldn't stop them
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from publishing it uh so and this is hot off the press you know we're filming this segment on
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monday so on sunday night uh obviously lots of people have come out and been like what are you
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doing what is going on there hold up well you are definitely covering this up now uh and that
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extends to nick timothy for instance the shadow justice secretary he's like look labor have
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consistently refused to publish sex crime data by nationality even though we know migrants from
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some countries are obviously more likely to be convicted um and yeah they say why are they still
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trying to appeal uh against releasing the data do labor just want to cover up the truth about
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foreign national offenders yes i mean the answer obviously is yes nick come on now behave why are
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we even asking this question yes um and so the the the place doing this is the center for migration
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control um and we'll just watch a little bit of this uh video because they are the ones that are
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actually um sort of fighting this they're the ones which should take all the credit and they do really
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really good work is going to court to block the publication of migrant crime statistics we need
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your help to stop this cover-up we can all see with our own eyes that open borders have made
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Britain less safe. The murder of a dog walker by an Afghan illegal migrant. The scenes of barbarism
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on the streets of Belfast. The near daily attacks on women and girls. But how many more murders?
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How many more sexual assaults have gone unreported? Politicians and journalists refuse to accept the
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link between migration and crime. They would rather keep us in the dark. This is why it was a huge
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victory last month when the Information Commissioner's Office ruled that the Ministry of
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Justice must publish a detailed breakdown of convictions by nationality. This would have
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allowed the public to see the truth. Other countries regularly publish this data. Our own
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government collects it, but they have chosen to hide it from us. Why? Because releasing this
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information would require them to take action. It would require them to dramatically increase
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the deportation of foreign criminals. It would require them to introduce visa bans on certain
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nationalities. It would require them to introduce more stringent checks on legal migrants coming to
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the UK. But Labour wants to do none of this, which is why they are currently taking the ICO's ruling
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to the courts. If we want things to change in our country, we need to give politicians
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no choice but to act. This is why Labour's migrant crime cover-up must not be allowed to succeed.
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Supporting the Centre for Migration Control would allow us to take every available legal step
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to challenge this attack on transparency. It would allow us to tell the public the extent to which
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its own government is attempting to conceal from them the simple fact of what is going on in their
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country. And when we defeat the government in the courts, it will allow us to ensure the whole
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world knows exactly what uncontrolled migration has done to Britain, the effects it has had on
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our society, the danger it has posed to people in their own communities. It is only when we bring
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enough pressure onto this government that we can force action. Ensuring migrant crime statistics
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are published regularly is the only way we can make our streets safer and end the scourge,
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the spike of migrant crime so a bit long-winded but i did want to play that because they are the
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ones that are actually bringing a legal challenge you know they they genuinely do uh deserve that
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and it's a very succinct um video and and just a small plug you know they do actually need uh
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funding they need help with that and it's a it's a worthwhile cause so definitely if you can go and
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support it because this is information that they are well they had a legal ruling for it to be
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released and Labour have gone no but just to pause you here for a second Lammy wouldn't have done
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this on his own oh no no it's late Lammy would have consulted with number 10 with the cabinet
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office all civil servants yeah they would have all collectively decided we don't want to publish
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this data yeah so in the same way that they decided to inflate the alleged far-right threat
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in the same way that they keep on drumming on about,
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when the data obviously shows the opposite
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but they insist on not allowing any transparency
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about Boris Johnson defending his record on the Boris wave.
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I mean, the thing is, it's indisputable now, right?
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And we only end up seeing the very tip of the iceberg.
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yeah those are ones which are just reported and that you you sort of see in the press um so it's
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really important i mean again this their labor's quick attempt to jump in front of the courts and
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be like no no no we have to we have to try and cover this up um betrays the fact that they are
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trying to cover it up i mean it is clearly absolutely horrendous and this is something
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which you know people have been trying to get a hold of for a really long time even members of
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parliament you know Rupert Lowe for instance this is back when he was part of reform and you know
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he this is a this is Hansard and says you know to ask the Secretary of State for Justice what the
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re-offending rate of foreign national offenders was in each of the last five years so he's been
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trying to sort of accumulate loads of different bits of information and I mean even this you know
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on a statistical basis was pretty crazy um so the response was the requested data on the re-offending
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rate of foreign national offenders can be found in the attached table proven re-offending rate for
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all adult offenders released from custody or starting a court order in april 21st to march
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22nd annual cohort was 32.5 percent prison prison just does doesn't work really yeah i guess is the
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take home from that uh foreign national offenders who commit crime should be in no doubt that the
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law will be enforced yeah yeah well not really though is it let's let's i mean such a pile of
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lies right yeah yeah and the 32 re-offending rate that's proven re-offending yep that's assuming
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they don't go to prison again learn better skills from other prisoners and then go out and recommit
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crime and don't actually get caught and it's also only the ones is the retard rate essentially well
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it's 32 percent of the five percent that reported so again at every point always imagine that you're
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dealing with something which is just exponentially worse i mean not even tenfold like 20 fold 35 i
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mean it's just yeah it's on a biblical scale basically what we're dealing with here um and
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you can see stuff like this as well so this is the migration observatory again who also do really
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good work um and you know this is data which people have been trying to get a hold of for ages
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right the information people have been trying to get a hold of for so so so long how do conviction
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rates and prison populations differ between british which again still could be you know
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pakistanis for instance and foreign nationals and you sort of scroll through some of this here
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there's obviously some bits of information here we scroll through what data are available on
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criminal offences and citizenship uh the highest quality data we currently have on non-citizens
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in the criminal justice system is on the prison population so these are official statistics
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that have been through quality assurance before publication they provide data on uk and non-uk
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nationals held in prison for criminal offences with a small share of people around 0.4 percent
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in june 2025 whose nationality was not recorded so i don't even know how you could not record a
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nationality i mean you what you don't even know who the individual is that's what it means it
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doesn't matter where you come from it matters where you're going is that the prison prison
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motto that's the opposite of the story of odysseus it matters where you come from that's where you're
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going back to fix it it's the electric chair oh yeah that'll be good uh how do rates of criminal
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convictions and incarceration compare for uk and non-uk citizens so in june 2025 12.4 percent of
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the prison population were non-uk nationals to people they didn't even have to be here
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people are just here languishing at my expense brilliant great uh excluding people with no
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recorded nationality so there's still more obviously around 13 of cautions and convictions
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in 2024 were given to non-citizens including five percent where no national nationality was
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recorded excluding sorry five percent what what we do it but you can see right you can start to
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gleam from all this other data that has been sort of found tangentially around that what they're
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trying to block is so bad it's going to be just absolutely atrocious and you see this
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here you know foreign uh foreign national share of the prison population compared to the wider
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population see this here um i mean it's just awful you know how do convictions and incarceration
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vary by offense type yeah yeah not great not great the um the kind of offenses that foreign
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nationals perpetrate are not your average or i just i i don't know stole a yorkie down the local
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shop or something like that is that's not an arrestable offense anymore well yeah i don't know
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i'm not i mean depends who's but the number also hides is that so many crimes are now
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no longer crimes that is true and so many things that are not crimes like having an opinion are
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now crimes but also depends who steals it yes that is true but the thing yeah yeah that's fair
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um but the thing is as well is is the crimes from foreigners are foreign nationals whatever
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however you want to phrase it are the the most violent depraved vile types of crimes you know
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they're not the they're not the type of crimes that if you look at from a societal level most
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people would go you know he got into a fight because he was a bit drunk yeah you know we're
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talking your your barbarism effectively like actual barbaric individuals so yeah i guess just
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to really reiterate this and get back to it is this is awful uh the fact that they are trying
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to hide it the fact that they fought ages uh to get this uh foi request which we know from
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lewis brackpool friend of the show they take ages and ages and ages and ages and they try and
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slow it filibuster yeah yeah and and and to get any information out of it is is just like pulling
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teeth like getting blood from a stone and to finally get it to finally get it they're like
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nope we're gonna go to court over this we're gonna actively waste taxpayers money because
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that's what they're gonna do they're gonna actively waste taxpayers money and i'd love
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to see a freedom of information request on how much this is going to cost them on the back end
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of it eventually anyway we're gonna actively waste taxpayers money in hiding information
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from the taxpayer that would otherwise benefit them in not only their safety because they can
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obviously uh act accordingly in their day-to-day activities by uh yeah unfortunately being a little
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bit prejudicial uh in their sort of actions because that stuff can keep you alive right
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pattern recognition is a thing it keeps you alive part of evolutionary psychology um but yeah no
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we're gonna we're gonna waste money on basically hiding all that but because it will obviously
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obviously it's horrendous obviously it's awful and obviously it'll just destroy their entire
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all right that's sorry it's a bit of a quick no that's good
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let's uh read the comments here and then go to the comments on the website um i don't think that's
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Now, maybe I'm naive, but in what world would the government allow itself to lose a court battle considering they control the courts?
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And I'll read some of the, before we play the, Samson, before we play the videos, I'll read some of it.
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I'll read some of the comments here that we didn't get managed to read before.
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So, Orchik Dürer says, so this movie, hiding the tip of the iceberg, leads to the Titanic sinking.
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nice yeah um okay uh that's around skip that one okay that's around the name says wait wait wait
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the main character is a trickster for the love of the game who keeps betraying his own crew
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no wonder um he says shapiro and rubin love that movie uh that's a random name says here
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my favorite part was when that black rapper told us the story of the face that launched a thousand
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drive-bys okay let's play let's play the let's play the samson are you alive okay
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hey loadseaters i'm here with you today at harlet castle
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absolute monster you can see why this location was chosen for the castle it absolutely dominates
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landscape. Parlech was part of Edward I's Ring of Iron, which sounds like a euphemism more
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appropriate for his son. A common feature with Edward I's castles is that they were on the sea,
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but as you can see here it's rather far away. That's because the sea has receded.
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I'll load seaters, I'm here at EMF 26 and it's full of trannies
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nice what are you seeing i don't know what i'm i don't know but it's interesting to notice how
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yellow the grass has turned yeah yeah it's dry summer let's go next one mecca monday it's actually
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on monday the mr blobby nationalism segment on thursday may be more important than it appears
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If even the establishment is pining for the good old days of wholesome quirk-chungus politics,
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they're admitting their previous modus operandi wasn't working.
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This could have major consequences in the future.
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Or maybe there isn't that much hope, and it's only a fool's hope.
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It's just, every time we have the video, some of them are completely disconnected.
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Mr. Blobby was a light-hearted creation of a really rather base broadcaster, Noel Edmonds,
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who rose to prominence bringing joy to the British people through extolling the lost virtue of
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doing things for others. Noel went on to create a programme decrying the then-falling state of
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the UK that presaged exactly where we are now. The Mr. Blobby patriotism article was worthy of
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derision because the younger generation of today seem to have forgotten what charity truly is and
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the smile that needs to go with it. Sorry, Carl, Harry, but unless you're willing to be charitable
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and encourage it in others then you've got your analysis wrong mr blobby isn't the problem people
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not understanding what he means is bin face is the antithesis of mr blobby
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thanks yep let's play the next one an rg politician was just demanding the falkland
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islands back again after the world cup and he described the english living there as an
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Artificially transplanted population, very interesting term, maybe worth normalizing.
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And honestly, could be used to describe a lot of other communities around the West, honestly.
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And I think that's probably why the Labour Party was pushing back so hard against them,
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because they're basically going, you don't know what you're putting on the table right now.
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Sophie Liv says, the hilarious thing is that YouTubers have actually been busy adapting the whole thing way more accurately for the last five years.
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Once again, YouTube just trounced Hollywood already.
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I didn't read it as this woke hellfire that others have been making it to be.
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I understand if you don't like Nolan in general, but it's not some, dare I say, ideological Trojan horse.
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I don't expect anyone to agree with me on this, and I'm not one to tell you what to think.
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Furthermore, this shouldn't be taken as a sign that I'm a civilizational traitor.
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I will only entertain good faith discussions, not validation of knee-jerk emotional responses.
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Yeah, that's fair. I do say that it is propagandist, just it's not so much the woke, hey, let's change so much this. It's egalitarian thing. And if you read the epic, I think you will see that the character of Odysseus is presented as much more virtues than in the movie, and others are presented in a worse light.
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So there is definitely some, there's definitely some, you know, egalitarian propaganda there.
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Lars Peter Simonson, isn't the Aeneid just the Romans saying we was Greeks and shit?
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I think they're trying to say that they are the descendants of the Romans.
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It's not exactly clear in the Aeneid where the Trojans descend from in an ethnical sense,
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because their lineage comes from the gods just like in this lore wherever you have you know
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heroes and kings they always descend from deities right lord inquisitor hector x has a question for
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you nate yeah nate are you safe with those two black men in the studio you feel safe do you feel
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safe okay uh again man he's built like a tank what are you talking about are we safe with him
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okay lord in crystal hector x says again so if the movie actually does well doesn't it kill the
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idea the representation matters since there were no greeks well there was a greek there who
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or someone who spoke Greek and was told by an Indian
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Just on the topic of financials for that movie,
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there's lots of people praising its opening weekend,
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But what's really important to note is actually
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is significantly less than even Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight.
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because of premium format screens like imax it's like double the price right it's absolutely
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staggeringly high so total foot full traffic is actually substantially less so i did a video not
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to promote it but just to discuss like how do we measure the metrics of quality and success because
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lots of people are saying well it's a success and i actually i mean i just disagree that it's a
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success by how do you measure that right because at this point you know you can get into the granular
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detail and be like yeah not not quite actually yeah geordie swordsman says most interesting
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take i've heard on the odyssey was little platoons on efap it's a generic vietnam war film
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odysseus's ptsd antennas being a draft dodger as examples with a superficial odyssey skin suit
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draped over the top um i will say this you can definitely make the case and there are some
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great books by i think it was jonathan shea or someone it's odysseus in america and achilles
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in Vietnam who is talking about this, but I mean, there is, you can play along that theme
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without making him forget Ithaca and without also trying to present him as way more vicious
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than he was. Colin P says, I've noticed over the last few years, a number of films, TV shows,
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which while they go against the IP, they're supposedly representing may have been okay
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these epics did function in a therapeutic manner
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But I think we could definitely not have all the other issues.
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Nolan would never be allowed to return home to the British Isles.
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May he endlessly wander in the sea of slop he created.
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And that's around the name says, damn, Odysseus got ghosted even by his own mom.
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you could probably significantly and immediately
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beaten to death while she was alone and powerless
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grown to know her a bit over the years. She was on
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Strictly, the fact that MPs would cover this up
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That's why they're fine with her being murdered,
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uh also it's an assassination i think i think it quantifies is that it's an assassination right
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uh grant gibson everyone is tied to morgan mcsweeney you have to ask how are they connected
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uh very often perhaps through mandelson lancelot says funny how leftists are against the death
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penalty until it's their political opponents being killed then they celebrate no it's not funny but
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yes that's a good observation we got um i read one of them already that was on yours but there's
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one anyway omar awad says most people don't look at the statistics but they've noticed the decline
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anyway they can refuse to publish the data but feelings don't care if you hide the facts
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also if if it were in the case they would definitely publish it and say
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look all of you people they would publish in your face your yeah yeah it's just
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right so thank you very much for today thank you brother for us thank you brother nate
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thank you and we have islander number six issue number six definitely get a copy of it
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it has great articles inside i know luca was writing the article here about samwise gamji for
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for weeks he was really into it it's all there is also the interview of an economist called
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Michael Hudson. Definitely buy it. So Islander number six, only $40.99. 3 p.m. today, we will
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have Realpolitik. Firas is going to talk about Iran and the larger geopolitical setting. So