00:09:53.160Nothing of the sort was there in the movie.
00:09:55.580Instead, we have rom-com sleazeball types of Calypso being in love with Odysseus,
00:10:02.540feeding him lotuses so he would forget, which didn't happen in the epic,
00:10:07.980because it's very important for Odysseus to remember his home.
00:10:12.980Hence, the whole Gnostos of Odysseus being the theme of the epic was absent from the movie.
00:10:19.260He was just a guy who wanted to go home, but there are all the other emotional aspects of his thinking about home or completely absent.
00:10:28.900And at some point down the line, she was so interested in authenticity and so interested in genuine love, L-O-V-E, that she understood that because he forgot who he was, she fell in love with the shade and she didn't want to be in love with the shade.
00:10:48.120so she made him remember and she essentially let him go and she told him i may have misheard here
00:10:54.460because the sound here was atrocious maybe that was in the in the screening i i was present
00:11:01.060nolan has a massive issue with sound mixing it's one of his common issues that he's never corrected
00:11:06.940ever his sound mixing is just terrible it was atrocious so i think she told him take that with
00:11:14.980pinch of salt. Zeus hates you. Try and go back to Ithaca. And that was another major distortion0.94
00:11:22.120of the epic because the movie was unheroic, radically egalitarian, leveling down, slop.
00:11:29.720It didn't portray Odysseus as a hero. It didn't portray his homecoming as a heroic homecoming.
00:11:36.720It elevated his crew constantly. It brought him down constantly. It inserted things that were
00:11:45.980fabricated by Nolan to make him look worse. He inserted elements from Virgil's Aeneid to make
00:11:53.920Odysseus look as the fraudster. And at the end of the day, I was asking, well, if he's such a bad
00:11:59.320person, why did he get home? Or why wasn't he slain at home by his wife like Agamemnon was,
00:12:07.560according to the basic, the fundamental aspects of the Greek lore? None of that was in the movie.
00:12:15.560In the movie, he was punished for the Trojan horse, and it just so happened that he was
00:12:20.520less guilty, just a tiny bit less guilty than the suitors. And when he slayed the suitors,
00:12:26.140it was just an issue of him being a bit less guilty. So it wasn't so much a heroic thing.
00:12:32.220We will get more into that. Another woke thing, Cersei. Cersei in the epic is a very powerful
00:12:39.140sorceress goddess. She's essentially turning everyone into swine. Here she was portrayed0.97
00:12:44.440as a poor little woman who was scared of being sexually abused.0.80
00:12:47.680and the movie tried to portray her in a very uh sympathetic way right yeah she did turn his man0.56
00:12:59.120into swine but she did this because she was a scared little woman living alone being afraid
00:13:05.100of marauders and she did have a sister though yeah what happened with her a crow oh yeah she
00:13:11.280turned her sister into a crow because they get on better that way okay that's dialogue from the
00:13:16.540movie that's a start they got they get along better that way i missed that well that's brilliant
00:13:22.540she wanted to be she was she appreciated the quiet maybe she was a she was a gossip and she
00:13:28.280didn't want to hear it but yeah also the the dialogue was in several respects atrocious i'm
00:13:33.880not just going to talk about the supposedly uh if you are a feminist you would want cersei to be0.99
00:13:41.760a very powerful woman capable of acting on her own rather than being a sort of terrified broken0.99
00:13:49.480woman who's simply out there to protect herself but that is simply erased she's turned into this
00:13:56.440broken shell of what she actually was in in the epic yeah i think pretty much pretty much fair
00:14:01.800enough um to be honest on the woke aspect of it was the least bad thing about it right right and
00:14:09.260And on Calypso, so Odysseus doesn't consume of the lotuses in the epic, right?
00:16:02.840is postponed because primarily for two reasons. First of all, because his crew is constantly
00:16:11.300getting in the way and his crew is offending the gods and his collateral damage. And then because
00:16:18.160of he angers Poseidon by blinding Polyphemus. Now, several parts of the epic that show this
00:16:24.900are omitted. For instance, the bag of the winds. Aeolus, the god of the wind, gives him the bag
00:16:31.420of the winds. Here is a beautiful depiction of this. And when they are just miles away from
00:16:39.460Ithaca, Odysseus is asleep, and his crew thinks it's gold, and they try to scam him to steal gold.
00:16:45.000And then all the winds open, and then there's a resulting hurricane that blows the ship,
00:16:50.520of course. And he misses seven years, essentially. Nothing of the sort is there. In fact, there were
00:17:00.080many insertions in the movie that changed completely the character of Odysseus and his
00:17:07.500moral status. And they presented him as constantly dishonoring his crew and his men and his soldiers.
00:17:15.140Essentially, they portrayed him as someone who was a trickster for the love of the game.
00:17:20.920Very brief, very brief mention of the distinction between the epic and the movie.
00:17:28.140When in the epic they land on the land of the Cyclops, Odysseus and some of his men go on a reconnaissance mission, and Homer writes there, Odysseus wants to see if the inhabitants of that land are God-fearing people, or they are savages without respect for right or wrong.
00:17:52.440Homer puts this in order to draw a distinction between Odysseus and the Cyclops.
00:17:57.740What Nolan did, because he tries to level everything down, that's the spirit of radical
00:18:03.700leveling down egalitarianism of this movie, he is portraying Odysseus as someone who refuses
00:18:09.920to bury his men, who were devoured in the epic, there was no corpse left, who refuses
00:18:15.700to bury them, and his men tell him in the movie, we have to honor our men, we have to
00:18:21.000bury them. And he says in the movie, well, we'll honor them by leaving them.
00:18:26.480This was a complete fabrication from Nolan's mind, which functioned as a means of leveling down,
00:18:35.580leveling down the playing field, morally speaking. And instead of presenting the Cyclops as the
00:18:43.160violator of divine justice and the law of Zeus, and Odysseus as the virtuous one. He was presented
00:18:50.540as essentially someone who was a bit less guilty than Polyphemus. And another one, the scene with
00:19:00.380Sinon came out on essentially Virgil, Virgil's Aeneid. Aeneid was the poem that Augustus told
00:19:07.000Virgil to write in order to say, hey, listen, we need to rival the Greeks in culture. I need a0.94
00:19:12.920Homeric epic. And instead of writing a completely different one with Remus and Romulus, Virgil
00:19:21.080portrayed the Romans as descending from the Trojans. That's why in this movie, we have
00:19:26.460a very simplistic, you know, portrayal, Achaeans, bad Trojans, good. No context, just a conman who
00:19:36.160just completely destroyed them, conned them, and led to them being massacred. There was no context
00:19:41.580behind it. And it was just tricking people and frauding people and killing them for the love of0.99
00:19:46.880the game. So there is the scene with Paige playing Sinon, a character who was defrauded multiple
00:19:55.360times by Odysseus, and that led to his death. So that came there again in order to bring down
00:20:01.960Odysseus and make everyone else as the victim of Odysseus's cunning. And the issue is here,
00:20:12.520and again, I will say this because a lot of people are talking about the movie without
00:20:15.680knowing about it. His cunning is not that of an amoral Machiavellian. He does have the element
00:20:23.540of cunning in it, and in some respects represents modern warfare and a departure from the ideal of
00:20:32.600Achilles, let's say. But he always stays reverent in the epic, whereas in the movie,
00:20:39.420he's just essentially portrayed as an immoral Machiavellian. I will just focus on some things
00:20:46.820that Jonathan Pajot has said, because I think that for a long time, he has shared some good
00:20:52.440insights about symbolism. But here I completely disagree with him, and I depart completely with
00:20:58.420his assessment of the situation. Let me just tell you some of the things he said. He says,
00:21:05.220there's only one person in Nolan's Odyssey speaking Greek, and he is held captive by the
00:21:13.000men of Odysseus. And he's asking them in Greek, who are you? Are you the Sea Peoples? And an
00:21:19.720indian replies in english we are greeks now um i think that this is essentially leaving greeks
00:21:28.540out of it or trying to to take them why is it supposed that lupita nyong'o has to be represented
00:21:35.480um uh an indian has to be represented as member of you know the the crew a korean has to be
00:21:46.040represented as a member of a crew but a greek must not shouldn't there was a korean yes
00:21:52.700i sort of turned up like midway through the movie as well seriously just sort of was like
00:21:59.160yes not that at least a rooftop korean who he thought the sirens were k-pop and he just
00:22:04.580swam through the sirens and he was devoured right so when i saw this i said that this is0.87
00:22:11.240this is atrocious, and this is absolutely horrendous and disgusting. But Jonathan Peugeot
00:22:17.040was very happy with it, and he called it the masterpiece, because he also said that, as he
00:22:22.620says here, most of us in Europe, the Italian, British, French, and even Scandinavians, have
00:22:27.520identified with Troy for thousands to more than 2,000 years, but everyone's shocked that Agamemnon's
00:22:33.140army is seen in a negative light for the movie. I wasn't aware this was a football match.
00:22:39.040i i'm i'm not aware that anyone is reading the iliad and suddenly starts standing for agamemnon
00:22:48.440um i'm not aware of any greek who i'm not aware of any passage in homer that presents
00:22:58.120the trojans in a sort of you know these are the filthy trojans it's if you're if you see it as a
00:23:09.040the meaning of the epic. But okay, it's the World Cup here.0.64
00:31:35.340And if you fall from it, or if you deviate from it,
00:31:38.880or if you're thrown away from it by any sort of,
00:31:41.980by the forces of chaos, to combine the traits of Athena, Metis, and power, ingenuity, wisdom,
00:31:50.680force, in order to establish order as fast as possible and return home. That was the meaning
00:31:57.400of the Odyssey. That was the meaning that any sort of adaptation that could have toyed, of course
00:32:03.140they could have, they wouldn't be, you know, to the letter, faithful to the text. That was the
00:32:08.220spirit that they had to respect and they didn't thanks for that brother stellios much appreciated
00:32:15.680um so should i briefly read the comments yeah okay one or two quickly okay quickly uh that's
00:32:25.800that's around the name says reminder that ben shapiro wants the uh is fine with a brown uh
00:32:31.720Browning of America. And he says, truly our greatest ally. And Orchigdor says, many of the0.75
00:32:38.860YouTubers I watch also bring up the breaking of Zeus's law in the movie. Your thoughts, Stelios?
00:32:43.260I think I really did touch upon it. It's the suitors and polyphemers who are breaking
00:32:50.140the law. So let's go to the next segment. Okay. So let's talk about a few things.
00:32:58.420Well, I'm sure you remember, but right after the Anne Whittacombe murder, a story came out discussing the arrests of 12 individuals, 13 individuals, who were going to conduct a terrible terrorist attack against an Ahmadiyya Muslim gathering.
00:35:38.040And Keir Starmer jumped in saying that this was shocking news the day the police were investigating a credible, serious threat targeted at an Islamic event in Suffolk.
00:52:54.640And they are essentially flooding the zone with allegations of far-right terrorism threats to cover up the actual threats that are in this country.
00:53:03.080and the bbc is obviously playing its big part in this because when the arrests happened
00:53:12.200it was plastered all over the bbc but uh when the police said that no charges
00:53:19.920it didn't even make it on the suffolk regional page
00:53:24.940nada well it doesn't fit the narrative does it it doesn't fit the narrative and that's all
00:53:28.860these people care about. This is a level of dishonesty that is genuinely worrying.
00:53:35.100And it just means that everybody, anybody can be arrested for some imagined offense,
00:53:40.680if it helps the politicians spin their narrative. And it's really important to understand who said
00:53:48.460what to whom when. Like, when did the police discover these 12 individuals? What did they
00:53:54.940actually suspect them of? What did they communicate to the home office? What did the home office
00:54:02.240communicate to number 10? How did Starmer and Mahmoud end up with these coordinated statements?
00:54:09.380And who organized all of this? Because this is pretty serious. This is as serious as it gets.
00:54:19.160and there should be a record of these communications there definitely is
00:54:24.360people have the right to see it i won't be conducive to the public good no they won't
00:54:30.600release it you see but this is something that is conducive to the public good oh smooth
00:54:35.520islander will tell you what should be done in our current times and how should we address
00:54:43.440the mess that uh that we're in and we have the sixth issue here it's 14.99 excellent work
00:54:50.860excellent it's not expensive it's worth every penny you should buy it now right do you want
00:54:59.000to read uh yeah i have one comment here uh hapsification how surprising someone that looks
00:55:04.760like a reddit moderator turns out to be a reddit moderator i am shocked shocked well not that
00:55:11.260shocked okay i don't know if i can read the next one but i'd like to it's okay oh let's go to you
00:55:17.800let's go oh come on that's a random name deserves it i'll read it for you when athena portrayed by0.85
00:55:23.720zendaya burst out of zeus's head her first words of wisdom were yo we was olympians and shit0.90
01:21:02.000Sophie Liv says, the hilarious thing is that YouTubers have actually been busy adapting the whole thing way more accurately for the last five years.
01:21:09.620Once again, YouTube just trounced Hollywood already.
01:21:47.560Furthermore, this shouldn't be taken as a sign that I'm a civilizational traitor.
01:21:51.700I will only entertain good faith discussions, not validation of knee-jerk emotional responses.
01:21:57.420Yeah, that's fair. I do say that it is propagandist, just it's not so much the woke, hey, let's change so much this. It's egalitarian thing. And if you read the epic, I think you will see that the character of Odysseus is presented as much more virtues than in the movie, and others are presented in a worse light.
01:22:22.180So there is definitely some, there's definitely some, you know, egalitarian propaganda there.