The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - July 20, 2026


The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1465


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00:00:00.000 Hello everyone, welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Seaters. Today is Monday the 20th of July
00:00:06.380 2026 and this is episode number 1465. I'm pleased to be joined by Brother Fras and Brother Nate
00:00:13.960 and we're going to discuss how Odyssey was utter crap, the police's deceptions to deflect from 0.95
00:00:21.540 Anne Whittacombe's murder and David Lamy's effort to cover up migrant crime. But before we begin, 0.96
00:00:27.180 We do have a Realpolitik episode at 3 p.m. today, live with Firas.
00:00:35.060 Firas, briefly, what are you going to talk about?
00:00:37.960 Iran's strategy in the war and why the Americans are more stuck, oil prices blowing up, and maybe if we have time, J.D. Vance's panic.
00:00:48.560 Okay, be there, 3 p.m., watch Firas's Realpolitik.
00:00:52.960 Please.
00:00:53.560 Right, so should we start? I suppose we should.
00:00:57.180 yeah okay sorry okay so i ended up watching nolan's odyssey the movie and it was worse
00:01:08.720 than i thought i thought that wokeness was going to be the issue and it ended up being much much
00:01:15.400 much worse than i thought it would be it was an absolute disaster and i have bad news for you if
00:01:22.720 you are listening to so-called conservative figures, a lot of them don't understand when
00:01:28.140 they're fed a radically egalitarian slop. And that was what this movie was. Before we say more about
00:01:34.760 this movie, we have new copy of Islander. This is issue number six. Definitely buy it. I really
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00:02:03.640 Okay. So The Odyssey is a movie that was going to be controversial, and there has been some
00:02:10.600 controversy surrounding it for about a year now yeah about that yeah and we were only
00:02:19.400 aware of how the movie was being marketed and the marketing was atrocious but and that created a
00:02:27.500 negativity bubble not a negativity bubble a negativity fatigue because for a long time
00:02:34.580 myself included, were talking about Helen of Troy wasn't black. And there is only so many times you
00:02:40.880 can say this. And that led to a negativity fatigue, which now led to several people jump ship and say
00:02:49.780 there's a new trend, a trend that's going to be positive about the movie. Let's jump on it. That's
00:02:55.520 what several people did. We had Tom Holland, who was praising the Odyssey and trashing critics of
00:03:03.820 it, who is sharing here an article by The Guardian saying, an absolute triumph. First
00:03:11.300 reactions to Christopher Nolan's odyssey are ecstatic. Now, when The Guardian praises
00:03:20.100 something, I tend to be negatively disposed towards it. I don't know if that's just me,
00:03:26.280 but yeah. Why wouldn't you trust The Guardian? Yep. That's so bigoted. And it wasn't just
00:03:31.860 Tom Holland. It was people like Ben Shapiro who started lambasting right-wing critics of the movie
00:03:38.900 saying that it is a masterpiece. I hear he is a Christopher Nolan fan, but he said several things
00:03:47.180 that I take issue with. Let's look here what he said. If you want to make the case everybody needs
00:03:55.060 to be Greek to be authentic, I think you can make that case. If you want to make the case everybody 0.92
00:03:58.380 has to be white. I think that that is a lesser case because white people and Greek are not quite 0.56
00:04:02.580 the same thing. Right. So, yeah. It doesn't take me out of the film. Brother, Stelios. I'm the
00:04:09.600 certified Kang. Stelios is an ethnic. What's going on? All of us Mediterranean, Ben. Right. Okay. So 1.00
00:04:19.560 he said that he's okay with the woke casting. But one thing is that Ben Shapiro is supposed to be
00:04:24.920 against wokeness. And people who are against wokeness, I think, are supposed to be against
00:04:30.560 casting that is meant just to represent people, which means that the movie is becoming a tool for
00:04:38.760 activism and propaganda instead of being a portrayal or depiction of the epic. And also,
00:04:47.480 yeah, okay, I'm just not going to comment about the other thing. I'm only going to say that I'm
00:04:52.540 sure he wouldn't be happy with a Black Moses. I wouldn't be happy with a Black Moses or a Korean 1.00
00:04:58.620 Moses either. Schindler's List featuring only Indians? I wouldn't be happy with that either. 1.00
00:05:05.780 And I wouldn't be out saying that I'm okay with the diversity casting of a potential movie of 0.99
00:05:14.940 that sort. Ben Shapiro wasn't the only one. Dave Rubin was one of the many ones who started saying
00:05:21.420 the Odyssey was an absolute masterpiece. Claire Lehman is saying if the Odyssey was actually
00:05:27.340 woke, Penelope would not have remained faithful to Odysseus for 20 years, and Odysseus would have
00:05:33.100 been welcomed home into a polycule. She is constantly saying that all the critics of the
00:05:41.100 movie are very negative and they don't know what they're talking about. When I watched the movie,
00:05:45.920 I really wanted to make peace with it and say, fine, okay, most of my negativity bit,
00:05:53.460 most of my negative disposition was owing to the, to X. That ends up X was correct.
00:06:01.240 Let me just give you also here a perspective from someone who I do respect in, in several ways. I
00:06:08.520 don't, I'm not trying to trash her, Melissa Chen. She says something interesting here,
00:06:13.700 and I do have a good response and I hope she takes it into consideration. She's talking about
00:06:20.480 how there was a woke puritanism in the movies, which led to some very boring and stale scenario 1.00
00:06:29.360 and movies, which I think is correct. And she says here, however, the rights reflexive boycotts
00:06:37.380 now punish perceived deviations from correct representation. Even when they come from
00:06:43.320 directors who largely stayed outside, progressive orthodoxy, the result is a narrowing of the
00:06:49.260 imaginative space in which ambitious, large-scale work can even be attempted without immediate
00:06:54.680 partisan judgment. The classics are not static relics, sealed in amber. Homer, yeah, and she's
00:07:00.420 saying essentially that they're plastic. Here she says, mythic archetypes possessed a remarkable
00:07:06.600 elasticity. I will say that, no, they don't represent, they don't possess infinite elasticity.
00:07:18.520 And they certainly don't possess an elasticity that changes the meaning of the myth,
00:07:26.160 the meaning of the epic. And also, one thing is that conservatives, or those who call themselves
00:07:33.260 conservatives, are so much focused on the color and the race thing and base superficial level
00:07:44.120 wokeness that they ended up now being fine with a little bit of wokeness. And that's a problem
00:07:50.160 with conservatism, because if conservatism is the attitude of resisting fast changes,
00:07:56.540 then that means that they're okay with slow changes. And then it's one of those people who
00:08:01.340 are saying, hey, an occasional cheat meal here or there, and eventually down the line, you wake up,
00:08:06.780 you're precious from the movie, and you don't know who you are and how you got there. Because you
00:08:11.340 were okay with slow changes, they didn't seem radical enough. And that's the problem with
00:08:16.280 so-called conservatism. So I'll just be very brief with the woke bits. We've talked about
00:08:23.840 Helen of Troy not being black, and we've talked about Greeks not being represented.
00:08:30.260 i want to tell you three things and i'll start from you know the i'll move i'll ascend the
00:08:39.260 cheeseometer so nate you have watched the movie haven't you yeah how do you think uh was the scene
00:08:46.500 with um charlie's throne playing calypso and her being in the early ozempic stage
00:08:52.760 yeah well yeah i mean it was it was kind of a throwaway scene largely to be honest i mean
00:08:59.900 And not a great depiction of what actually happened in the original material, for sure.
00:09:07.740 Completely unfaithful depiction.
00:09:09.900 Feroz, have you watched the movie?
00:09:11.260 I haven't watched it.
00:09:12.060 You haven't, so you're redeemable in the eyes of the audience, unlikely?
00:09:15.220 I'm not interested.
00:09:17.620 I'm just not interested.
00:09:18.700 So let me just tell you what the epic says about Odysseus and the island of Calypso
00:09:24.860 and what the movie depicted Odysseus and Calypso as being
00:09:28.580 and the relationship between them.
00:09:30.380 So Odysseus was stranded on her island.
00:09:32.560 She was a goddess nymph 0.85
00:09:33.980 who was essentially abusing him sexually for seven years. 0.87
00:09:38.600 And for seven years, he wanted to return home.
00:09:41.020 He never forgot home and she wouldn't let him go.
00:09:44.200 So Zeus ordered her to let her go
00:09:46.600 because Zeus thought that Odysseus was essentially a heroic man
00:09:51.120 and someone who was praiseworthy.
00:09:53.160 Nothing of the sort was there in the movie.
00:09:55.580 Instead, we have rom-com sleazeball types of Calypso being in love with Odysseus,
00:10:02.540 feeding him lotuses so he would forget, which didn't happen in the epic,
00:10:07.980 because it's very important for Odysseus to remember his home.
00:10:12.980 Hence, the whole Gnostos of Odysseus being the theme of the epic was absent from the movie.
00:10:19.260 He was just a guy who wanted to go home, but there are all the other emotional aspects of his thinking about home or completely absent.
00:10:28.900 And at some point down the line, she was so interested in authenticity and so interested in genuine love, L-O-V-E, that she understood that because he forgot who he was, she fell in love with the shade and she didn't want to be in love with the shade.
00:10:48.120 so she made him remember and she essentially let him go and she told him i may have misheard here
00:10:54.460 because the sound here was atrocious maybe that was in the in the screening i i was present
00:11:01.060 nolan has a massive issue with sound mixing it's one of his common issues that he's never corrected
00:11:06.940 ever his sound mixing is just terrible it was atrocious so i think she told him take that with
00:11:14.980 pinch of salt. Zeus hates you. Try and go back to Ithaca. And that was another major distortion 0.94
00:11:22.120 of the epic because the movie was unheroic, radically egalitarian, leveling down, slop.
00:11:29.720 It didn't portray Odysseus as a hero. It didn't portray his homecoming as a heroic homecoming.
00:11:36.720 It elevated his crew constantly. It brought him down constantly. It inserted things that were
00:11:45.980 fabricated by Nolan to make him look worse. He inserted elements from Virgil's Aeneid to make
00:11:53.920 Odysseus look as the fraudster. And at the end of the day, I was asking, well, if he's such a bad
00:11:59.320 person, why did he get home? Or why wasn't he slain at home by his wife like Agamemnon was,
00:12:07.560 according to the basic, the fundamental aspects of the Greek lore? None of that was in the movie.
00:12:15.560 In the movie, he was punished for the Trojan horse, and it just so happened that he was
00:12:20.520 less guilty, just a tiny bit less guilty than the suitors. And when he slayed the suitors,
00:12:26.140 it was just an issue of him being a bit less guilty. So it wasn't so much a heroic thing.
00:12:32.220 We will get more into that. Another woke thing, Cersei. Cersei in the epic is a very powerful
00:12:39.140 sorceress goddess. She's essentially turning everyone into swine. Here she was portrayed 0.97
00:12:44.440 as a poor little woman who was scared of being sexually abused. 0.80
00:12:47.680 and the movie tried to portray her in a very uh sympathetic way right yeah she did turn his man 0.56
00:12:59.120 into swine but she did this because she was a scared little woman living alone being afraid
00:13:05.100 of marauders and she did have a sister though yeah what happened with her a crow oh yeah she
00:13:11.280 turned her sister into a crow because they get on better that way okay that's dialogue from the
00:13:16.540 movie that's a start they got they get along better that way i missed that well that's brilliant
00:13:22.540 she wanted to be she was she appreciated the quiet maybe she was a she was a gossip and she
00:13:28.280 didn't want to hear it but yeah also the the dialogue was in several respects atrocious i'm
00:13:33.880 not just going to talk about the supposedly uh if you are a feminist you would want cersei to be 0.99
00:13:41.760 a very powerful woman capable of acting on her own rather than being a sort of terrified broken 0.99
00:13:49.480 woman who's simply out there to protect herself but that is simply erased she's turned into this
00:13:56.440 broken shell of what she actually was in in the epic yeah i think pretty much pretty much fair
00:14:01.800 enough um to be honest on the woke aspect of it was the least bad thing about it right right and
00:14:09.260 And on Calypso, so Odysseus doesn't consume of the lotuses in the epic, right?
00:14:16.420 He doesn't partake.
00:14:17.400 Yes.
00:14:17.760 But he is made to partake in Nolan's rendition.
00:14:22.100 Yes.
00:14:22.540 And he's made to sort of forget the purpose of his journey.
00:14:26.920 Absolutely.
00:14:27.600 Which is a return.
00:14:28.620 And it's only the favor of Calypso that allows him to return.
00:14:32.640 Yes.
00:14:32.840 Whereas in the epic, in reality, he's loved by Zeus and that is why he's saved.
00:14:37.780 Yes.
00:14:38.520 So a total inversion of the philosophy.
00:14:41.400 Total inversion, yes.
00:14:43.360 Right, let's move on.
00:14:44.640 So I have several reasons why I think this is egalitarian slop.
00:14:49.880 I will tell you why I think that is.
00:14:52.480 So in the epic, Odysseus is the hero.
00:14:55.720 He is loved by the gods except Poseidon.
00:14:59.340 And because he's loved by the gods, he gets to return home.
00:15:02.700 And when he gets to return home, he's an instrument of divine justice.
00:15:05.780 so it's a hero's home coming and a hero who never forgot his mission sorry may i interrupt you just 0.77
00:15:13.620 like one more time when he returns home he cleanses yes his home yes of the foreign interlopers
00:15:20.700 yes who had been there not just for him it's local interlopers who didn't belong there
00:15:26.380 essentially and restores order and justice and this is the right and heroic thing to do
00:15:32.900 and he is in a position to do so
00:15:35.120 because he is a hero loved by the gods
00:15:38.140 who has done justice in the eyes of the gods.
00:15:40.940 Yes.
00:15:42.000 And this again is erased.
00:15:44.280 Okay, just to clarify,
00:15:46.660 the extent of philosophical vandalism,
00:15:50.240 not just visual vandalism.
00:15:52.200 Yes, we are definitely going to talk again about this movie
00:15:55.320 and others are going to do this,
00:15:56.440 but I'm going to talk about the philosophical vandalism of it.
00:15:58.840 So in the epic, Odysseus' homecoming
00:16:02.840 is postponed because primarily for two reasons. First of all, because his crew is constantly
00:16:11.300 getting in the way and his crew is offending the gods and his collateral damage. And then because
00:16:18.160 of he angers Poseidon by blinding Polyphemus. Now, several parts of the epic that show this
00:16:24.900 are omitted. For instance, the bag of the winds. Aeolus, the god of the wind, gives him the bag
00:16:31.420 of the winds. Here is a beautiful depiction of this. And when they are just miles away from
00:16:39.460 Ithaca, Odysseus is asleep, and his crew thinks it's gold, and they try to scam him to steal gold.
00:16:45.000 And then all the winds open, and then there's a resulting hurricane that blows the ship,
00:16:50.520 of course. And he misses seven years, essentially. Nothing of the sort is there. In fact, there were
00:17:00.080 many insertions in the movie that changed completely the character of Odysseus and his
00:17:07.500 moral status. And they presented him as constantly dishonoring his crew and his men and his soldiers.
00:17:15.140 Essentially, they portrayed him as someone who was a trickster for the love of the game.
00:17:20.920 Very brief, very brief mention of the distinction between the epic and the movie.
00:17:28.140 When in the epic they land on the land of the Cyclops, Odysseus and some of his men go on a reconnaissance mission, and Homer writes there, Odysseus wants to see if the inhabitants of that land are God-fearing people, or they are savages without respect for right or wrong.
00:17:52.440 Homer puts this in order to draw a distinction between Odysseus and the Cyclops.
00:17:57.740 What Nolan did, because he tries to level everything down, that's the spirit of radical
00:18:03.700 leveling down egalitarianism of this movie, he is portraying Odysseus as someone who refuses
00:18:09.920 to bury his men, who were devoured in the epic, there was no corpse left, who refuses
00:18:15.700 to bury them, and his men tell him in the movie, we have to honor our men, we have to
00:18:21.000 bury them. And he says in the movie, well, we'll honor them by leaving them.
00:18:26.480 This was a complete fabrication from Nolan's mind, which functioned as a means of leveling down,
00:18:35.580 leveling down the playing field, morally speaking. And instead of presenting the Cyclops as the
00:18:43.160 violator of divine justice and the law of Zeus, and Odysseus as the virtuous one. He was presented
00:18:50.540 as essentially someone who was a bit less guilty than Polyphemus. And another one, the scene with
00:19:00.380 Sinon came out on essentially Virgil, Virgil's Aeneid. Aeneid was the poem that Augustus told
00:19:07.000 Virgil to write in order to say, hey, listen, we need to rival the Greeks in culture. I need a 0.94
00:19:12.920 Homeric epic. And instead of writing a completely different one with Remus and Romulus, Virgil
00:19:21.080 portrayed the Romans as descending from the Trojans. That's why in this movie, we have
00:19:26.460 a very simplistic, you know, portrayal, Achaeans, bad Trojans, good. No context, just a conman who
00:19:36.160 just completely destroyed them, conned them, and led to them being massacred. There was no context
00:19:41.580 behind it. And it was just tricking people and frauding people and killing them for the love of 0.99
00:19:46.880 the game. So there is the scene with Paige playing Sinon, a character who was defrauded multiple
00:19:55.360 times by Odysseus, and that led to his death. So that came there again in order to bring down
00:20:01.960 Odysseus and make everyone else as the victim of Odysseus's cunning. And the issue is here,
00:20:12.520 and again, I will say this because a lot of people are talking about the movie without
00:20:15.680 knowing about it. His cunning is not that of an amoral Machiavellian. He does have the element
00:20:23.540 of cunning in it, and in some respects represents modern warfare and a departure from the ideal of
00:20:32.600 Achilles, let's say. But he always stays reverent in the epic, whereas in the movie,
00:20:39.420 he's just essentially portrayed as an immoral Machiavellian. I will just focus on some things
00:20:46.820 that Jonathan Pajot has said, because I think that for a long time, he has shared some good
00:20:52.440 insights about symbolism. But here I completely disagree with him, and I depart completely with
00:20:58.420 his assessment of the situation. Let me just tell you some of the things he said. He says,
00:21:05.220 there's only one person in Nolan's Odyssey speaking Greek, and he is held captive by the
00:21:13.000 men of Odysseus. And he's asking them in Greek, who are you? Are you the Sea Peoples? And an
00:21:19.720 indian replies in english we are greeks now um i think that this is essentially leaving greeks
00:21:28.540 out of it or trying to to take them why is it supposed that lupita nyong'o has to be represented
00:21:35.480 um uh an indian has to be represented as member of you know the the crew a korean has to be
00:21:46.040 represented as a member of a crew but a greek must not shouldn't there was a korean yes
00:21:52.700 i sort of turned up like midway through the movie as well seriously just sort of was like
00:21:59.160 yes not that at least a rooftop korean who he thought the sirens were k-pop and he just
00:22:04.580 swam through the sirens and he was devoured right so when i saw this i said that this is 0.87
00:22:11.240 this is atrocious, and this is absolutely horrendous and disgusting. But Jonathan Peugeot
00:22:17.040 was very happy with it, and he called it the masterpiece, because he also said that, as he
00:22:22.620 says here, most of us in Europe, the Italian, British, French, and even Scandinavians, have
00:22:27.520 identified with Troy for thousands to more than 2,000 years, but everyone's shocked that Agamemnon's
00:22:33.140 army is seen in a negative light for the movie. I wasn't aware this was a football match.
00:22:39.040 i i'm i'm not aware that anyone is reading the iliad and suddenly starts standing for agamemnon
00:22:48.440 um i'm not aware of any greek who i'm not aware of any passage in homer that presents
00:22:58.120 the trojans in a sort of you know these are the filthy trojans it's if you're if you see it as a
00:23:09.040 the meaning of the epic. But okay, it's the World Cup here. 0.64
00:23:12.080 The Achaeans.
00:23:13.680 Yeah, the Achaeans, yes. And here, Jonathan Peugeot has a video where he is saying essentially,
00:23:21.280 that he got initially, he was a member of the criticism of the movie, but he saw it,
00:23:27.040 it was a Trojan horse, but go watch it. And it ends up sort of being a double trickster thing,
00:23:35.120 where Odysseus is a trickster
00:23:36.960 and it looks as if it's promoting wokeness,
00:23:40.700 but it actually isn't.
00:23:42.340 And it's sort of Elliot Page
00:23:45.000 who's presented as a strong and brave man in the marketing,
00:23:48.940 but ends up being someone who dies in a really memey way.
00:23:52.840 And the weirdest thing is how Page agreed to the role.
00:23:57.440 It's all the very meta thing.
00:24:00.160 But at the end of the day,
00:24:02.880 Odysseus was not just a trickster.
00:24:05.120 that's a key aspect of it. And that's where all the theological aspect is being lost by several
00:24:11.660 of the people who rushed to portray this as a sort of, hey, yeah, they were actually the bad guys.
00:24:19.380 That's where they do want moral clarity. But when it comes to everything else,
00:24:23.520 they don't want moral clarity. It's all a egalitarian graciousness. So you can't understand
00:24:29.460 the Greek lore without understanding Hesiod's Theogony and the myth of the construction of the
00:24:35.200 world. And you can't understand the lore of the Greek world without understanding
00:24:42.120 the importance of Metis. So when Zeus, I'll be very brief, when Zeus won the Titanomachy against
00:24:50.240 Kronos, who was an unjust ruler by all means, who was devouring his own children, Zeus married
00:24:59.720 Metis. He was his first wife. And Metis represents cunning and wisdom. And that is what allowed Zeus 0.85
00:25:07.220 to differ from Kronos. He swallowed her. She was pregnant with Athena. Athena grew out of his head.
00:25:18.280 and Athena is representing the combination of might and wisdom. And by swallowing her,
00:25:24.040 that wasn't a form of killing her. It was an issue of making her traits his own. Zeus forever will
00:25:29.520 embody the wise, supreme, authoritative figure after doing this. And the purpose is not there to
00:25:41.580 the meaning there is not that you should be a con man or that Zeus is a con man.
00:25:48.280 The meaning there is that in some respects where there is chaos and when it comes to humans like
00:25:53.740 Odysseus, you find yourself in a chaotic, war-like situation. You're caught in the crossfire.
00:25:59.980 What you should do is try to restore order as fast as possible and get to go back home.
00:26:07.440 that's the meaning of metis and i'll be very brief in addressing a few lines of criticism
00:26:14.340 i hear about this because i heard well i addressed but i'll just find i'll just end with this i hear
00:26:21.700 someone who i consider a friend and i didn't want to quote post him or something because
00:26:26.560 he'll get all the negativity of all this and stuff he said well listen i'm a christian
00:26:31.820 I'm not gonna go to cultural wars for a pagan epic why should I I don't care I just want to
00:26:39.080 watch a movie it's not just you shouldn't look at it in terms of it's the subversion of a pagan
00:26:45.760 epic so I don't care that's not it for a long for a first of all lots of the themes in the
00:26:52.060 Iliad and the Odyssey are also there in Christianity if you if you care to actually
00:26:57.980 read the greek lore more importantly christ christianity cannot be understood without
00:27:04.940 greece and rome it's it's the union between jerusalem athens and rome that gives us christianity
00:27:11.940 and so if you undermine one of them you do undermine christianity yes and let's not and
00:27:19.040 the importance of bringing order and not being a trickster is a pretty high up their christian
00:27:24.520 value at the end of the day right it's not and also pretty bad defense to begin with
00:27:29.300 exactly and also let's bear in mind that a lot of the theological debates that were fundamental to
00:27:35.180 the identity of christianity were using the language of aristotle for instance you can't
00:27:40.560 have the debates in the in nice and christianity without uh without talking about without referring
00:27:47.720 to the notion of substance that Aristotle coined. You can't even formulate the question
00:27:55.120 of whether the son has the same substance with the father without referring to the notion
00:28:02.080 of the substance. But also, it's not about that. It's for another thing, and I'll be
00:28:07.860 very brief, is that for the next 20, 25 years until the next adaptation, the next generation
00:28:14.960 who isn't going to read as much as the previous ones did, sadly, the more time goes by, people
00:28:22.220 tend to read less, will have an idea of Odysseus and the Odyssey based on that movie, because it's
00:28:29.720 low effort. They won't be bothering to reading the epic. And the more this happens, and the more
00:28:35.040 you're okay with it, because you don't want to fight the culture war, because you say that
00:28:40.640 because you're a Christian, this is a pagan epic. The more you do this, the more you're okay with
00:28:47.840 a whole culture that is communicating radically egalitarian sloppy propaganda that functions as
00:28:56.680 a sabotage for people to get in contact with any aspect of Western tradition. And I'd say also the
00:29:04.220 human canon, any aspect of the human canon that tries to inspire them to be virtuous, instead of
00:29:11.340 starting by saying, it's all grayish, do not aspire to virtue. That's why. And last thing, I'll end the 0.88
00:29:19.500 segment with the following. If they did want to represent black people, they could have done
00:29:24.260 easily. They could have inserted scenes from the lore of the ancient Greek mythology, referring to 0.77
00:29:30.380 the Ethiopians, and for instance, King Memnon, who was an ally of the Trojans, and Achilles killed
00:29:36.080 him, they could easily have somehow involved that. Nolan wasn't an enemy of inserting things
00:29:46.240 from other traditions. He could have inserted something from this tradition, let alone
00:29:52.800 fabrications that he did. If it were about representation, we would have a very different
00:30:01.600 movie. The conservatives who are okay with it, they don't have an understanding of the epic.
00:30:07.860 They don't understand that they're being spoon-fed, radically egalitarian slop.
00:30:14.780 And I'd say that they should be a bit more cultured. And two things were missing here
00:30:21.280 that would have been cinematic gold and i'll end with these number one a scene where odysseus tries
00:30:28.080 to hug the ghost of his mother in the underworld who had died waiting for him and they tried to
00:30:34.060 embrace each other and they just couldn't because uh she was a ghost i think that would have been
00:30:39.100 cinematic gold and also well it would if they'd crafted a character of odysseus that you actually
00:30:46.480 connected with on an emotional level rather than have him be yeah guilty of stuff so that's yeah
00:30:52.920 correct and the scene with Odysseus is absolutely with Achilles is absolutely pivotal Achilles is
00:31:00.160 just present in one scene where he tells Odysseus as a ghost essentially that he's the king of the
00:31:07.200 underworld and he would trade all the eternal glory he conquered for a for a day a peaceful day
00:31:14.580 as a laborer in the land of the living.
00:31:17.940 And this is crucial because in the Odyssey,
00:31:21.100 the goal of life, and that's the meaning,
00:31:23.340 the meaning isn't go and slay people for glory,
00:31:26.020 it's the exact opposite.
00:31:27.060 The meaning of life in the Odyssey
00:31:28.580 is not to wage war in order to win glory.
00:31:32.580 It is to find your rightful place.
00:31:35.340 And if you fall from it, or if you deviate from it,
00:31:38.880 or if you're thrown away from it by any sort of,
00:31:41.980 by the forces of chaos, to combine the traits of Athena, Metis, and power, ingenuity, wisdom,
00:31:50.680 force, in order to establish order as fast as possible and return home. That was the meaning
00:31:57.400 of the Odyssey. That was the meaning that any sort of adaptation that could have toyed, of course
00:32:03.140 they could have, they wouldn't be, you know, to the letter, faithful to the text. That was the
00:32:08.220 spirit that they had to respect and they didn't thanks for that brother stellios much appreciated
00:32:15.680 um so should i briefly read the comments yeah okay one or two quickly okay quickly uh that's
00:32:25.800 that's around the name says reminder that ben shapiro wants the uh is fine with a brown uh
00:32:31.720 Browning of America. And he says, truly our greatest ally. And Orchigdor says, many of the 0.75
00:32:38.860 YouTubers I watch also bring up the breaking of Zeus's law in the movie. Your thoughts, Stelios?
00:32:43.260 I think I really did touch upon it. It's the suitors and polyphemers who are breaking
00:32:50.140 the law. So let's go to the next segment. Okay. So let's talk about a few things.
00:32:58.420 Well, I'm sure you remember, but right after the Anne Whittacombe murder, a story came out discussing the arrests of 12 individuals, 13 individuals, who were going to conduct a terrible terrorist attack against an Ahmadiyya Muslim gathering.
00:33:18.820 Lives were saved.
00:33:19.660 Yes, lives were saved, apparently, from utter horror.
00:33:24.020 The head of state, in fact, said.
00:33:26.280 Well, yes, the head of government, the head of state is the king.
00:33:29.480 Yeah, sorry, sorry, yeah, yeah.
00:33:30.620 And also the Shabana Mahmood, Mahmood, sorry.
00:33:36.380 Mahmood, don't worry about it.
00:33:38.280 I prefer mine, but all right.
00:33:39.140 It's, don't worry. 1.00
00:33:41.540 Like the ha-ha thing is a mix-up that the Ashkenazi Jews get into 0.97
00:33:46.380 because the Sephardi Jews still have the ha, 0.96
00:33:49.640 and they can pronounce the Arabic ha, the Ashkenazis don't,
00:33:52.180 so they get it with a ha, and hence you get Mahmood instead of Mahmood.
00:33:55.980 Long story. You know, now we're getting a few more details about Anne Whittacombe's murderer.
00:34:03.860 And it seems that he was a bit obsessed with Nigel Farage and he was a bit obsessed with
00:34:09.960 presumably the far right. And that kind of explains what the police did and how they lied.
00:34:18.020 I mean, just to remind you here, on the 13th of July, Ms. Whittacombe was discovered on the 9th.
00:34:29.000 The police came out and said that they were investigating something related to extreme right-wing terrorism.
00:34:37.620 And that they had arrested 12 people who were planning an attack.
00:34:43.600 Excuse me.
00:34:44.480 And they recommended that the event, that the Islamic event be canceled.
00:34:50.740 And this seemed very, very, very serious.
00:34:54.700 The commander of the counterterrorism policing in London said,
00:34:59.120 after becoming aware of a potential serious threat towards the Islamic event in Suffolk,
00:35:03.800 we have moved extremely quickly to make a number of arrests in various locations across the country.
00:35:09.180 she thanked her colleagues and declared a major incident in response to this threat
00:35:16.120 forceful isn't it pretty forceful indeed i know this news may be concerning to the public and
00:35:21.720 particularly those in the muslim community given that we believe the intended target was an islamic
00:35:26.900 event we will not hesitate to act if there is a potential threat wonderful stuff wonderful stuff 1.00
00:35:34.060 Very serious by the look of it.
00:35:38.040 And Keir Starmer jumped in saying that this was shocking news the day the police were investigating a credible, serious threat targeted at an Islamic event in Suffolk.
00:35:50.740 Thank you for the quick action.
00:35:52.160 I will not tolerate any attacks on our Muslim communities or any form of anti-Muslim hatred.
00:36:00.860 Thank you for that.
00:36:01.480 uh shabana mahmoud in parliament spoke and let's maybe listen to her i'm having trouble with this
00:36:10.020 uh can we play this video samson
00:36:15.020 with audio
00:36:18.200 age unresponsive oh well no problem but she spoke to parliament explaining that there was a
00:36:27.100 terrible threat and that she had acted against it in her capacity as Home Secretary.
00:36:33.100 And she said that terrorism police are leading an investigation into a credible threat.
00:36:40.300 This is deeply concerning for British Muslims. We must stand against hatred and we must unite
00:36:46.380 around our shared belief in a country that is open, generous, and tolerant to all our communities.
00:36:52.020 lives were undoubtedly saved that sounds a lot like speculation doesn't it i mean that sounds 0.90
00:37:00.840 like these individuals who are arrested we're going to definitely kill people
00:37:06.800 and we're plotting a mass murder i mean you can't take anything else from that really
00:37:11.260 say again can't take anything else from that really can i mean their swift and effective
00:37:16.380 response that undoubtedly saved lives. We can't doubt it. Nope. That means murder was being
00:37:23.220 planned. Trust me, bro. Then, after the news of Anne Whittacombe's murder had somehow faded a
00:37:32.740 little bit from the public eye, and while everybody was a bit distracted with the World Cup
00:37:37.920 finals oh there's an update from counterterrorism policing it's a pretty serious update and it says
00:37:47.940 that pretty much everybody was released oh oh
00:37:53.180 so most of the people involved were released without charges and there wasn't enough evidence
00:38:00.800 to bring in new charges so did the moon make them crazy and they went on a rampage the rampage was
00:38:07.460 sort of stopped and now they're okay well it was there was one guy who was definitely arrested and
00:38:14.260 charged what was he charged for having extendable batons and having a stun gun where in his home
00:38:24.140 after it was searched so we went from there was a credible terrorist threat and undoubtedly lives
00:38:32.300 were saved by swift and effective police action to we search somebody's home and it turns out that
00:38:38.880 he had a couple of sticks and a taser brilliant there is um so i i know someone actually knows
00:38:46.720 one of these people right that was arrested um and there's potentially some miscommunication
00:38:54.360 going on maybe it's true maybe it's not i don't know but there is a sort of a thought that uh
00:39:00.360 homes were bugged right believe it or not really yeah there's a strong there's a strong suspicion
00:39:06.440 okay people's homes were bugged i mean just speaking about the kinds of people who are
00:39:11.640 arrested here an 82 year old man yeah and a 60 year old man
00:39:18.820 do we maybe he feels young young at heart or maybe nearing the end of his life he was considering
00:39:26.320 becoming a suicide bomber using what two batons like what what exactly what exactly was the plan
00:39:33.980 here what were the what were these people arrested for and uh it seemed that you know sorry let's go
00:39:41.360 back we missed a couple of links um it seems that these individuals were uh completely not planning
00:39:52.220 a terrorist attack of any kind. And it seems that the lady involved in their arrest, the head of
00:39:58.060 counterterrorism policing, she has a point, she has a post on LinkedIn with the title
00:40:03.040 Retaining Talented Women Benefits Everyone.
00:40:08.860 And she goes on about her wonderful career and how she was promoted very quickly and so on and so
00:40:13.920 forth. And how important it is to promote women. You know what, I'm a superhero at night. You know
00:40:20.920 how many villains I've slain?
00:40:22.820 It's just that I never get the credit for it.
00:40:25.080 You know how many villains I've slain.
00:40:27.300 That is definitely getting clipped.
00:40:31.620 That is going to be a beautiful clip.
00:40:34.940 And she's just there celebrating
00:40:36.960 the usual woke nonsense, 0.95
00:40:38.120 and we've covered the woke nonsense 0.53
00:40:39.640 of the police in the past.
00:40:41.220 Now, why would the police want to
00:40:44.140 drum up a new terrorist incident
00:40:47.980 by the far right,
00:40:49.300 right after Anne Whittacombe's murder.
00:40:52.360 Well, because some of the favorite arms of the state
00:40:56.060 were pretty busy in demonizing Anne Whittacombe,
00:41:00.900 I would say.
00:41:01.960 Hope Not Hate deleted a page from their website
00:41:04.460 that was attacking Anne Whittacombe,
00:41:06.320 but the internet never forgets. 0.89
00:41:09.460 And the things that they say about her 0.94
00:41:12.020 are a bit silly, frankly. 0.90
00:41:14.440 um basically she is accused of being a homophobe which is kind of she said things that were 0.96
00:41:23.180 the standard position of pretty much every catholic who was in james martin it was all
00:41:30.080 in line with her religion yeah uh i do not think that homosexuality can be promoted as an equally 0.81
00:41:35.740 valid lifestyle to marriage well obviously marriage is fecund and productive homosexuality
00:41:42.360 isn't you end up buying babies and we see the horrors that come with that uh she told somebody
00:41:48.840 not to be disgusting because they were basically being a bit too romantic on live television 0.69
00:41:53.100 yeah fair enough stop fornicating in front of in my presence it's it's it's not that big of a deal 0.93
00:42:01.100 uh they quote her saying that you know some people are surprised that i have gay friends
00:42:07.960 yeah of course i have friends that i disagree with otherwise i wouldn't have any friends i
00:42:12.100 disagree with everybody on something. That seems pretty tolerant of her, but they somehow managed
00:42:18.480 to cast that as a big example of intolerance. I've never understood why intelligent interviewers
00:42:25.180 express surprise that I have gay male friends. As I point out, if I chose my friends on the basis
00:42:30.200 that I must first agree with all of their views, I would have to exclude not only homosexuals, 1.00
00:42:35.460 all those who are divorced, living in sin, having children out of wedlock, having abortions, 1.00
00:42:40.340 known to have taken drugs holding uh strong left-wing views and certainly unbelievers 0.92
00:42:45.240 yes i oppose gay marriage but do plenty but so do plenty of gays so do they take this down
00:42:51.520 that they took that website down but they had used that example of i would argue a lot of
00:42:59.400 tolerance had a lot of generosity to cast her as a homophobe uh and then she's accused of being 1.00
00:43:09.080 sexist 1.00
00:43:09.880 because she 1.00
00:43:11.420 thinks that
00:43:12.060 yeah it's the
00:43:12.740 standard
00:43:13.140 accusations
00:43:13.820 can I ask
00:43:14.620 you something
00:43:15.020 has there
00:43:16.740 been any
00:43:17.480 sort of
00:43:18.180 link
00:43:18.660 that the
00:43:19.460 police has
00:43:19.880 found
00:43:20.280 between the
00:43:21.320 suspect
00:43:23.420 yes
00:43:23.880 I'll say
00:43:24.600 that for
00:43:24.920 legal reasons
00:43:25.540 and literature
00:43:27.100 by hope
00:43:28.140 not hate
00:43:28.600 or not
00:43:29.640 yet
00:43:29.940 not yet
00:43:30.580 but the
00:43:31.100 police aren't
00:43:31.600 saying very
00:43:32.280 much
00:43:32.620 these kinds
00:43:33.740 of accusations
00:43:34.440 are pretty
00:43:34.940 standard
00:43:35.440 homophobe 0.96
00:43:36.960 sexist 0.99
00:43:37.560 blah blah 0.96
00:43:37.900 blah
00:43:38.040 it's pretty
00:43:38.600 standard
00:43:39.040 Why would they delete this?
00:43:41.240 Yep.
00:43:41.880 We don't know why would they delete this,
00:43:45.060 but I think because it really looks terrible
00:43:46.800 and actually it makes her look pretty good
00:43:49.060 if you have any kind of sense.
00:43:53.900 And she explains why she became a Catholic
00:43:56.380 and they use that as a huge attack against her. 0.66
00:44:00.540 Like becoming a Catholic is something that you should attack.
00:44:03.400 uh she appeared with somebody who has questioned the narrative uh the jewish chronicle said that
00:44:13.100 she appeared on something that is anti-semitic okay everything's anti-semitic according to
00:44:19.120 someone and she's terrible because she defended the death penalty most of the country wants the
00:44:25.860 death penalty yes yes and somebody tony here makes the observation that you know we know about
00:44:33.420 the murder the police got the murder at his home address and now it's being leaked that he had
00:44:41.080 uh newspaper clippings of nigel farage pinned to the wall meaning that they knew at the time
00:44:48.600 of the arrest that there was a political connection but the police said initially
00:44:53.780 The Devon police said it was not political and it was not terrorism related and there's nothing to see here.
00:44:59.280 And they went even as far as to tell Nigel Farage that it was a burglary gone wrong.
00:45:03.520 Was it the job of prevent, to prevent it or not exactly?
00:45:09.180 Yeah, but see, he's not a right winger, so he's not a subject of it.
00:45:16.180 He couldn't be a problem.
00:45:17.260 He couldn't be a problem.
00:45:18.240 It's just that they annoyed him.
00:45:20.040 Yes.
00:45:20.840 Yes, basically.
00:45:23.780 So why did the police make that lie?
00:45:27.540 I, you know, good question.
00:45:31.840 Faraj says that this is a hard-left advocate,
00:45:34.740 a hard-left activist who expressed hatred for him many, many times.
00:45:39.440 An intolerant individual obsessed with Soviet communism.
00:45:43.700 And it seems that he was a Reddit moderator.
00:45:47.840 Eh.
00:45:49.020 He was a Reddit moderator.
00:45:51.760 That physiognomy is Lincoln.
00:45:53.400 yeah yeah checking out anti-british pro-palestine content anti-police posts uh okay
00:46:03.580 so he's seen it seems that he was a moderator on a subreddit called green and pleasant
00:46:12.120 and the lefties say the people on there are left-wing nutters it shocked me and i'm not
00:46:18.860 easily shocked. And you see that these guys are still going on with more attacks on Whittacombe,
00:46:27.680 calling her ugly, making fun of the fact that she maintained her chastity,
00:46:34.680 and laughing about her murder, essentially.
00:46:38.500 this is the view of reddit
00:46:44.440 this is the world according to reddit and it's reddit really is just an awful place yeah exactly
00:46:53.060 and it's really important to remember that you know hope not hate who commissioned a hit piece
00:46:59.120 on miss witticom have always been a part of the government under labor they were there under
00:47:06.120 Starmer and now they're back under Burnham. Is there one member of Hope Not Hate who has been
00:47:12.320 essentially gone to the government, accepted in the government with an important role?
00:47:18.800 More than one. More than one. So Alison Phillips, board member of Hope Not Hate and formerly of
00:47:26.360 The Mirror, she basically is very proud of supporting Hope Not Hate and she is now Andy
00:47:34.500 Burnham's director of transition so she's managing the transition between Burnham and Starmer
00:47:40.660 she wants more diversity and she thinks that the media isn't doing enough diversity maybe
00:47:51.920 she can have a word with Christopher Nolan he you know maybe we can look at that remember the
00:48:00.700 police said it wasn't political now we know that it is and burnham hired another person from hope
00:48:08.780 not hate matthew mcgregor and he's going to be his director of political strategy now remember
00:48:16.100 remember morgan mcsweeney was involved with hope not hate back in 20 2008 to 2010 this is why i
00:48:24.360 find the the current argument that people are making burnham's going to be way worse look at
00:48:28.780 these it's like this has already happened this has already happened people associated with hope not
00:48:32.560 hate were always just a continuation come on yeah yeah exactly exactly uh and they were basically
00:48:40.420 always a part of the uh of the government there's a couple of posts here alison phillips
00:48:46.660 ceo of labor together labor together morgan maxweeney yeah yeah so that's they were always a
00:48:55.760 big part of it. John Crudas also tied to Morgan McSweeney. So they've been a part of the government
00:49:04.980 for quite some time. And this hasn't changed. They commissioned a hit piece on Anne Whittacombe.
00:49:12.640 She ended up getting murdered. They're still in government. And I'm a big fan of when there's an
00:49:18.940 Islamic terrorist attack questioning Muslims about what are your views on this? And what are your 1.00
00:49:24.480 views on these interpretations of Islamic scripture or these verses of Islamic scripture
00:49:29.220 that advocate for killing and murder and things of that sort. I'm a big fan of that. I don't see 1.00
00:49:35.680 anybody in the media. You can't really do that with left-wingers, can you? Asking the left-wingers
00:49:40.600 about this kind of stuff. Because that would be quite revealing, wouldn't it? You can't do it.
00:49:48.680 But also everything's political, but now this wasn't. But this wasn't. Everything's political
00:49:53.280 except for the stuff that I say isn't political.
00:49:55.500 Don't politicize a murder unless it's Joe Cox.
00:49:59.120 Don't politicize David Ames' murder.
00:50:01.520 Don't politicize Anne Whittacombe's murder,
00:50:04.140 but do indeed by all means politicize Joe Cox's murder.
00:50:09.020 Yeah.
00:50:09.880 And the fact that the police would go as far as to basically
00:50:13.380 apparently severely inflate this supposed right-wing plot
00:50:19.300 that ended so far with no charges related to terrorism
00:50:23.020 so far it might change but if they had had evidence that there was going to be a mass
00:50:29.080 casualty event ah well yeah they wouldn't they wouldn't have released them yeah they wouldn't
00:50:33.120 have released them right they they definitely wouldn't have released them and also they'd be
00:50:38.140 so quick to to release that information but yeah they were going to do this this this that no no
00:50:43.760 contrast this with the slowness of releasing any details about Whittacombe's murder why is that
00:50:51.600 why is that now zia had a correct take and when he's right he's right she misled parliament
00:51:01.420 yeah yeah shabana mahmoud misled parliament she stood in parliament and said that there was a
00:51:07.620 serious and credible threat and she said that people were going to die and the police say that
00:51:14.280 there was no evidence to support anybody being charged with any offenses linked to the alleged
00:51:18.580 threat. That's a bit of a climb down. And that's a bit of a huge lie told to Parliament by Shabana
00:51:28.260 Mahmoud. Are there going to be consequences? Faraj on X hasn't said anything about this, by the way.
00:51:37.120 As usual, Zia is to the right of Faraj. Fair enough, whatever. But this is a resigning offense. 0.65
00:51:43.820 inflating a terrorist threat to spin a narrative
00:51:48.580 and to deflect from Whittacombe's murder,
00:51:51.360 which seems to be what has happened here,
00:51:54.940 is definitely a resigning offence.
00:51:57.400 The conservatives should be calling for Mahmoud's resignation.
00:52:00.660 She can't become chancellor 0.96
00:52:01.960 because if she's willing to do this on a security issue, 1.00
00:52:06.140 she'll do this over economic questions.
00:52:07.940 Oh yeah, 100%. 1.00
00:52:08.700 And it will have even bigger implications
00:52:12.960 for the British economy.
00:52:14.940 But that means that, you know,
00:52:17.140 anybody who's a bit right-wing
00:52:19.320 might get arrested
00:52:21.620 and have their whole lives upended
00:52:25.880 and become a spectacle for the media
00:52:30.720 just to help the narrative along.
00:52:34.180 We should never forget
00:52:36.100 that when it comes to the narrative,
00:52:38.860 it isn't just quality,
00:52:39.960 it's also quantity.
00:52:41.100 Yes.
00:52:41.480 That's why extra narratives that are being circulated when something is inconvenient, something inconvenient is discussed.
00:52:49.320 It's just that people's attention will gravitate also to quantity.
00:52:53.820 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:52:54.640 And they are essentially flooding the zone with allegations of far-right terrorism threats to cover up the actual threats that are in this country.
00:53:03.080 and the bbc is obviously playing its big part in this because when the arrests happened
00:53:12.200 it was plastered all over the bbc but uh when the police said that no charges
00:53:19.920 it didn't even make it on the suffolk regional page
00:53:24.940 nada well it doesn't fit the narrative does it it doesn't fit the narrative and that's all
00:53:28.860 these people care about. This is a level of dishonesty that is genuinely worrying.
00:53:35.100 And it just means that everybody, anybody can be arrested for some imagined offense,
00:53:40.680 if it helps the politicians spin their narrative. And it's really important to understand who said
00:53:48.460 what to whom when. Like, when did the police discover these 12 individuals? What did they
00:53:54.940 actually suspect them of? What did they communicate to the home office? What did the home office
00:54:02.240 communicate to number 10? How did Starmer and Mahmoud end up with these coordinated statements?
00:54:09.380 And who organized all of this? Because this is pretty serious. This is as serious as it gets.
00:54:19.160 and there should be a record of these communications there definitely is
00:54:24.360 people have the right to see it i won't be conducive to the public good no they won't
00:54:30.600 release it you see but this is something that is conducive to the public good oh smooth
00:54:35.520 islander will tell you what should be done in our current times and how should we address
00:54:43.440 the mess that uh that we're in and we have the sixth issue here it's 14.99 excellent work
00:54:50.860 excellent it's not expensive it's worth every penny you should buy it now right do you want
00:54:59.000 to read uh yeah i have one comment here uh hapsification how surprising someone that looks
00:55:04.760 like a reddit moderator turns out to be a reddit moderator i am shocked shocked well not that
00:55:11.260 shocked okay i don't know if i can read the next one but i'd like to it's okay oh let's go to you
00:55:17.800 let's go oh come on that's a random name deserves it i'll read it for you when athena portrayed by 0.85
00:55:23.720 zendaya burst out of zeus's head her first words of wisdom were yo we was olympians and shit 0.90
00:55:30.760 not my same 1.00
00:55:32.020 then she started 1.00
00:55:34.720 twerking 1.00
00:55:35.320 oh dear
00:55:45.860 I'm going to pose
00:55:46.660 myself a little bit
00:55:47.300 that was funny
00:55:47.780 right so we need
00:55:50.380 to talk about
00:55:50.920 the migrant 1.00
00:55:51.960 crime
00:55:52.960 cover-up
00:55:53.700 that is going on
00:55:54.780 fun fun fun
00:55:58.140 plus ça change
00:55:58.940 yeah
00:56:00.000 Well, yeah, it's going to be an interesting one, this. 0.95
00:56:02.040 So, migrant crime cover-up. 0.95
00:56:04.320 Something that's not covered up.
00:56:06.960 Oh.
00:56:07.400 Islander 6.
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00:56:09.940 Grab it if you want.
00:56:10.940 I've heard it's very, very good.
00:56:12.900 It's very cheap.
00:56:13.940 £14.99.
00:56:14.920 There's also some merch there.
00:56:16.680 Grab it.
00:56:17.060 Look at that.
00:56:17.420 That's cool, isn't it?
00:56:18.920 Brilliant.
00:56:20.200 Anyway, there you go. 0.69
00:56:21.160 So, let's talk about the migrant crime cover-up that is currently happening. 0.66
00:56:26.400 Or, I mean, it is currently happening. 0.81
00:56:28.200 They're trying to cover it up.
00:56:30.000 So this sort of popped up recently.
00:56:33.140 Lammy fighting to cover up foreigners' crimes.
00:56:36.660 Why would Lammy do this?
00:56:38.140 He's a British patriot, isn't he?
00:56:40.240 Well, yeah, I guess if you remove his cries for...
00:56:45.220 Reparations.
00:56:46.120 Reparations and sort of a focus on ethnicity that only benefits him.
00:56:51.100 Would he look at Haiti and say, hey, I want to be left alone.
00:56:56.080 Just add more money.
00:56:58.000 Maybe, maybe, maybe.
00:57:00.000 so basically yeah ministry of justice via david lammy of course is taking legal action to avoid
00:57:07.420 publishing conviction data broken down by nationality which is a truly fascinating thing
00:57:13.340 it's i mean the action itself betrays the outcome or betrays what they're trying to hide right i mean
00:57:20.680 the headline and the story that's that yeah i mean that is it isn't it really yes segment over
00:57:26.700 Sorry to interrupt you there for a second, but I think it's worth it.
00:57:34.620 I think something like 5% of crime ends up with a charge.
00:57:40.140 Yeah, I think it is.
00:57:42.480 So the conviction rate will still hide the sheer magnitude of the crisis.
00:57:50.940 Well, and that's also only crimes that are actually reported, remember?
00:57:55.560 Yes.
00:57:55.700 So, yeah, I mean...
00:57:57.480 So 5% of reported crime leads to a charge.
00:58:00.680 We have no idea how much crime goes unreported
00:58:03.080 because it's ever so slightly pointless
00:58:04.580 to talk to the police.
00:58:05.880 Yeah, yeah, that is the feeling.
00:58:07.060 Except to get a police report for insurance purposes.
00:58:11.340 And so...
00:58:14.020 Yeah, underlying all of this is obviously,
00:58:16.180 it's far worse.
00:58:18.060 There's an iceberg.
00:58:19.060 It's that sort of iceberg image
00:58:20.240 of a little bit that you see,
00:58:21.560 and under it is absolutely massive.
00:58:23.300 That's basically what it's about.
00:58:23.740 And he's trying to hide just the tip of the iceberg.
00:58:26.560 Yep.
00:58:27.900 Yeah.
00:58:28.460 So we'll just read a little bit of this article.
00:58:31.300 So the Ministry of Justice is seeking to overturn a ruling
00:58:34.080 by the Information Commissioner, right?
00:58:36.800 So there's already a ruling that, yeah, we're going to release this.
00:58:39.660 And the Ministry of Justice is like, not on my watch. 1.00
00:58:44.240 No foreigners.
00:58:46.720 That's basically what they're trying to say. 1.00
00:58:47.720 Foreign criminals. 1.00
00:58:49.660 So you're right, brilliant. 1.00
00:58:50.560 um and so obviously the information commissioner um ruled that the data uh for for nationality of
00:58:59.540 of offenders was was to be released right and that was in england and wales from 2018 to 2024
00:59:05.120 so it's not even actually a massive sort of you know spectrum of data i mean you you could go
00:59:12.820 back significantly further than that and yes good lord would they try and hide that i'm sure
00:59:17.580 um but yeah so the center for migration control which is a think tank asked the ministry of
00:59:23.740 justice to reveal the total number of convictions broken down by nationality and offenses for the
00:59:31.360 seven years under a freedom of information uh request now that's all what's also important to
00:59:37.940 note is that though there'll be substantial amount of people within that data again we talk about the
00:59:43.460 tip of the iceberg but there'll be a substantial amount of people within that uh that are considered
00:59:48.240 british because they have a piece of paper well yeah obviously you're not that i'll be on crime
00:59:54.120 data thankfully sure about that um it's that name uh but again so it's even worse than
01:00:01.980 or it would be even worse if you were to calculate it down to uh nationality of birth yes like
01:00:11.520 birthplace location um so this is really when we're talking about the tip of the iceberg i mean
01:00:17.060 it really is just the tip of the iceberg the data it's going to show is it's actually not
01:00:21.260 i mean if it's bad enough that they're trying to hide it i mean it's way worse in reality it just
01:00:27.560 really is so what's happening is and the pushback is the ministry of justice claims that the cost
01:00:33.780 of providing the information would be disproportionate and that some of the data
01:00:39.360 could lead to the identification of individuals
01:00:41.740 in a breach of their rights to privacy if it was published.
01:00:45.280 But that doesn't make any sense.
01:00:46.980 I mean, that is utter nonsense.
01:00:48.820 It doesn't make any sense.
01:00:49.700 Given the numbers, there's no way to identify an individual.
01:00:52.500 Yeah, absolutely.
01:00:53.280 I mean, you're literally just saying...
01:00:54.560 And also, it's seven years' worth of data,
01:00:57.040 and they're just saying the nationality.
01:00:58.500 So that's just not true, is it?
01:01:01.940 No.
01:01:02.220 Obviously.
01:01:03.140 You can identify the average man or the average member of the group,
01:01:08.000 but that's a statistical entity, not a physical entity.
01:01:12.440 But just imagine if the data were actually showing,
01:01:18.880 if they were showing that migrant groups
01:01:21.680 or several of the MENA groups that we are talking about a lot
01:01:25.240 are underrepresented in crime,
01:01:28.380 they would be so held on publishing and say,
01:01:31.060 hey, look, this was the wrong narrative.
01:01:34.200 Data is showing you how wrong you are.
01:01:37.040 Yeah.
01:01:37.160 well that's the thing isn't it you know if it was the other way around you couldn't stop them
01:01:43.940 from publishing it uh so and this is hot off the press you know we're filming this segment on
01:01:49.320 monday so on sunday night uh obviously lots of people have come out and been like what are you
01:01:54.000 doing what is going on there hold up well you are definitely covering this up now uh and that
01:02:02.060 extends to nick timothy for instance the shadow justice secretary he's like look labor have
01:02:06.140 consistently refused to publish sex crime data by nationality even though we know migrants from
01:02:10.860 some countries are obviously more likely to be convicted um and yeah they say why are they still
01:02:18.420 trying to appeal uh against releasing the data do labor just want to cover up the truth about
01:02:22.900 foreign national offenders yes i mean the answer obviously is yes nick come on now behave why are
01:02:28.360 we even asking this question yes um and so the the the place doing this is the center for migration
01:02:35.960 control um and we'll just watch a little bit of this uh video because they are the ones that are
01:02:40.860 actually um sort of fighting this they're the ones which should take all the credit and they do really
01:02:45.520 really good work is going to court to block the publication of migrant crime statistics we need
01:02:53.520 your help to stop this cover-up we can all see with our own eyes that open borders have made
01:02:59.020 Britain less safe. The murder of a dog walker by an Afghan illegal migrant. The scenes of barbarism
01:03:06.020 on the streets of Belfast. The near daily attacks on women and girls. But how many more murders?
01:03:13.700 How many more sexual assaults have gone unreported? Politicians and journalists refuse to accept the
01:03:20.760 link between migration and crime. They would rather keep us in the dark. This is why it was a huge
01:03:28.100 victory last month when the Information Commissioner's Office ruled that the Ministry of
01:03:32.760 Justice must publish a detailed breakdown of convictions by nationality. This would have
01:03:39.080 allowed the public to see the truth. Other countries regularly publish this data. Our own
01:03:45.280 government collects it, but they have chosen to hide it from us. Why? Because releasing this
01:03:51.900 information would require them to take action. It would require them to dramatically increase
01:03:57.720 the deportation of foreign criminals. It would require them to introduce visa bans on certain
01:04:03.660 nationalities. It would require them to introduce more stringent checks on legal migrants coming to 0.68
01:04:10.200 the UK. But Labour wants to do none of this, which is why they are currently taking the ICO's ruling
01:04:16.460 to the courts. If we want things to change in our country, we need to give politicians
01:04:21.380 no choice but to act. This is why Labour's migrant crime cover-up must not be allowed to succeed. 0.97
01:04:29.400 Supporting the Centre for Migration Control would allow us to take every available legal step
01:04:34.080 to challenge this attack on transparency. It would allow us to tell the public the extent to which
01:04:39.820 its own government is attempting to conceal from them the simple fact of what is going on in their
01:04:45.420 country. And when we defeat the government in the courts, it will allow us to ensure the whole
01:04:50.860 world knows exactly what uncontrolled migration has done to Britain, the effects it has had on
01:04:57.800 our society, the danger it has posed to people in their own communities. It is only when we bring
01:05:03.040 enough pressure onto this government that we can force action. Ensuring migrant crime statistics 1.00
01:05:09.400 are published regularly is the only way we can make our streets safer and end the scourge, 1.00
01:05:15.960 the spike of migrant crime so a bit long-winded but i did want to play that because they are the 1.00
01:05:22.620 ones that are actually bringing a legal challenge you know they they genuinely do uh deserve that 0.94
01:05:28.820 and it's a very succinct um video and and just a small plug you know they do actually need uh
01:05:35.180 funding they need help with that and it's a it's a worthwhile cause so definitely if you can go and
01:05:41.780 support it because this is information that they are well they had a legal ruling for it to be
01:05:48.220 released and Labour have gone no but just to pause you here for a second Lammy wouldn't have done
01:05:54.800 this on his own oh no no it's late Lammy would have consulted with number 10 with the cabinet
01:05:59.740 office all civil servants yeah they would have all collectively decided we don't want to publish
01:06:06.320 this data yeah so in the same way that they decided to inflate the alleged far-right threat
01:06:11.720 in the same way that they keep on drumming on about,
01:06:14.740 oh no, it's British people who are dangerous
01:06:16.560 when the data obviously shows the opposite 0.54
01:06:19.160 of their narrative,
01:06:20.820 but they insist on not allowing any transparency
01:06:24.020 because that would undermine their narrative.
01:06:26.480 So this is a point that I'm finding myself
01:06:30.900 constantly harping on about these days.
01:06:33.100 These are not accidents.
01:06:34.840 These are not bad and misguided policies.
01:06:37.220 This is deliberate.
01:06:38.640 They know what they're doing.
01:06:40.380 Yeah, yeah.
01:06:41.320 Oh, yeah, absolutely.
01:06:42.620 And I would like to go off into another rant
01:06:44.420 about Boris Johnson defending his record on the Boris wave.
01:06:47.760 I should have included some of that.
01:06:49.120 I think that's a segment all done to itself.
01:06:51.420 Yeah, I mean.
01:06:52.500 I mean, the thing is, it's indisputable now, right?
01:06:56.100 The evidence is there.
01:06:57.540 It's daily.
01:06:58.740 It's like, I mean, it's absurd.
01:07:00.540 It's something like 250 a day attacks.
01:07:05.040 Like, I mean, it's obscene.
01:07:07.440 And we only end up seeing the very tip of the iceberg.
01:07:10.080 Yeah.
01:07:10.240 yeah those are ones which are just reported and that you you sort of see in the press um so it's
01:07:15.400 really important i mean again this their labor's quick attempt to jump in front of the courts and
01:07:21.840 be like no no no we have to we have to try and cover this up um betrays the fact that they are
01:07:29.460 trying to cover it up i mean it is clearly absolutely horrendous and this is something
01:07:33.720 which you know people have been trying to get a hold of for a really long time even members of
01:07:40.300 parliament you know Rupert Lowe for instance this is back when he was part of reform and you know
01:07:46.440 he this is a this is Hansard and says you know to ask the Secretary of State for Justice what the
01:07:52.780 re-offending rate of foreign national offenders was in each of the last five years so he's been
01:07:57.460 trying to sort of accumulate loads of different bits of information and I mean even this you know
01:08:02.960 on a statistical basis was pretty crazy um so the response was the requested data on the re-offending
01:08:09.400 rate of foreign national offenders can be found in the attached table proven re-offending rate for
01:08:14.360 all adult offenders released from custody or starting a court order in april 21st to march
01:08:20.440 22nd annual cohort was 32.5 percent prison prison just does doesn't work really yeah i guess is the
01:08:29.060 take home from that uh foreign national offenders who commit crime should be in no doubt that the 0.99
01:08:34.140 law will be enforced yeah yeah well not really though is it let's let's i mean such a pile of 1.00
01:08:40.920 lies right yeah yeah and the 32 re-offending rate that's proven re-offending yep that's assuming
01:08:47.620 they don't go to prison again learn better skills from other prisoners and then go out and recommit 0.95
01:08:54.160 crime and don't actually get caught and it's also only the ones is the retard rate essentially well 0.92
01:08:59.240 it's 32 percent of the five percent that reported so again at every point always imagine that you're 0.93
01:09:06.000 dealing with something which is just exponentially worse i mean not even tenfold like 20 fold 35 i
01:09:10.680 mean it's just yeah it's on a biblical scale basically what we're dealing with here um and
01:09:18.180 you can see stuff like this as well so this is the migration observatory again who also do really
01:09:21.860 good work um and you know this is data which people have been trying to get a hold of for ages
01:09:28.180 right the information people have been trying to get a hold of for so so so long how do conviction
01:09:34.520 rates and prison populations differ between british which again still could be you know
01:09:40.220 pakistanis for instance and foreign nationals and you sort of scroll through some of this here
01:09:45.360 there's obviously some bits of information here we scroll through what data are available on
01:09:50.660 criminal offences and citizenship uh the highest quality data we currently have on non-citizens
01:09:55.940 in the criminal justice system is on the prison population so these are official statistics
01:10:02.020 that have been through quality assurance before publication they provide data on uk and non-uk
01:10:07.600 nationals held in prison for criminal offences with a small share of people around 0.4 percent
01:10:12.640 in june 2025 whose nationality was not recorded so i don't even know how you could not record a
01:10:17.940 nationality i mean you what you don't even know who the individual is that's what it means it
01:10:21.460 doesn't matter where you come from it matters where you're going is that the prison prison
01:10:27.000 motto that's the opposite of the story of odysseus it matters where you come from that's where you're
01:10:31.720 going back to fix it it's the electric chair oh yeah that'll be good uh how do rates of criminal
01:10:41.640 convictions and incarceration compare for uk and non-uk citizens so in june 2025 12.4 percent of 0.96
01:10:48.280 the prison population were non-uk nationals to people they didn't even have to be here
01:10:55.160 people are just here languishing at my expense brilliant great uh excluding people with no
01:11:02.440 recorded nationality so there's still more obviously around 13 of cautions and convictions
01:11:08.460 in 2024 were given to non-citizens including five percent where no national nationality was
01:11:14.700 recorded excluding sorry five percent what what we do it but you can see right you can start to
01:11:22.260 gleam from all this other data that has been sort of found tangentially around that what they're
01:11:29.160 trying to block is so bad it's going to be just absolutely atrocious and you see this
01:11:38.420 here you know foreign uh foreign national share of the prison population compared to the wider 0.94
01:11:44.260 population see this here um i mean it's just awful you know how do convictions and incarceration 0.98
01:11:50.140 vary by offense type yeah yeah not great not great the um the kind of offenses that foreign 0.73
01:11:58.780 nationals perpetrate are not your average or i just i i don't know stole a yorkie down the local 0.52
01:12:08.120 shop or something like that is that's not an arrestable offense anymore well yeah i don't know
01:12:13.240 i'm not i mean depends who's but the number also hides is that so many crimes are now
01:12:17.940 no longer crimes that is true and so many things that are not crimes like having an opinion are
01:12:23.180 now crimes but also depends who steals it yes that is true but the thing yeah yeah that's fair
01:12:29.740 um but the thing is as well is is the crimes from foreigners are foreign nationals whatever 0.99
01:12:34.100 however you want to phrase it are the the most violent depraved vile types of crimes you know 1.00
01:12:41.980 they're not the they're not the type of crimes that if you look at from a societal level most
01:12:46.480 people would go you know he got into a fight because he was a bit drunk yeah you know we're
01:12:53.600 talking your your barbarism effectively like actual barbaric individuals so yeah i guess just
01:13:02.660 to really reiterate this and get back to it is this is awful uh the fact that they are trying
01:13:08.960 to hide it the fact that they fought ages uh to get this uh foi request which we know from
01:13:16.680 lewis brackpool friend of the show they take ages and ages and ages and ages and they try and
01:13:22.100 slow it filibuster yeah yeah and and and to get any information out of it is is just like pulling
01:13:30.060 teeth like getting blood from a stone and to finally get it to finally get it they're like
01:13:35.200 nope we're gonna go to court over this we're gonna actively waste taxpayers money because
01:13:40.700 that's what they're gonna do they're gonna actively waste taxpayers money and i'd love
01:13:44.620 to see a freedom of information request on how much this is going to cost them on the back end
01:13:48.860 of it eventually anyway we're gonna actively waste taxpayers money in hiding information
01:13:53.860 from the taxpayer that would otherwise benefit them in not only their safety because they can
01:14:00.460 obviously uh act accordingly in their day-to-day activities by uh yeah unfortunately being a little
01:14:08.180 bit prejudicial uh in their sort of actions because that stuff can keep you alive right
01:14:12.980 pattern recognition is a thing it keeps you alive part of evolutionary psychology um but yeah no
01:14:19.200 we're gonna we're gonna waste money on basically hiding all that but because it will obviously
01:14:22.700 obviously it's horrendous obviously it's awful and obviously it'll just destroy their entire 0.97
01:14:28.080 globo homo project we know that much yeah 1.00
01:14:32.600 all right that's sorry it's a bit of a quick no that's good
01:14:39.080 let's uh read the comments here and then go to the comments on the website um i don't think that's
01:14:48.220 This is true.
01:14:50.240 No, it's true, it's true.
01:14:51.220 It's 100% true.
01:14:52.240 Yeah, it is.
01:14:54.460 Okay, so that's a random name says,
01:14:56.400 reminder that they insinuate,
01:14:58.100 okay, yeah, I didn't read properly,
01:15:00.220 that Louis Brackville is a terrorist
01:15:01.780 in one of their woke TV shows.
01:15:04.240 Yeah. 0.73
01:15:04.600 Mad. 0.91
01:15:05.740 Hapsification says nationality
01:15:08.020 should not be the only data point.
01:15:10.280 It should also include ethnicity,
01:15:12.200 tribe, and religion
01:15:13.020 to get a more full picture of the group.
01:15:14.960 Yep, and that's data
01:15:16.580 that they would have as well.
01:15:17.880 Yep.
01:15:19.120 Now, maybe I'm naive, but in what world would the government allow itself to lose a court battle considering they control the courts?
01:15:28.280 And I'll read some of the, before we play the, Samson, before we play the videos, I'll read some of it.
01:15:33.740 We do have time.
01:15:35.060 I'll read some of the comments here that we didn't get managed to read before.
01:15:39.000 So, Orchik Dürer says, so this movie, hiding the tip of the iceberg, leads to the Titanic sinking.
01:15:45.580 Yep.
01:15:46.220 Yep.
01:15:46.420 hapsification says
01:15:48.880 oh how
01:15:49.500 you read that
01:15:50.480 okay
01:15:50.840 oh PHEK
01:15:53.560 also why limit
01:15:54.560 ourselves 0.99
01:15:55.140 I want Claudia
01:15:56.240 Cardial 0.58
01:15:56.940 circa
01:15:58.920 circa
01:15:59.480 1960s
01:16:00.300 Penelope 0.78
01:16:00.760 young Monica
01:16:01.480 Bellucci has
01:16:02.200 Briseis and
01:16:02.960 Elliot Page
01:16:03.620 as Carabdis
01:16:04.420 okay
01:16:06.200 and again
01:16:07.320 he says
01:16:07.800 this is why
01:16:08.400 what AI
01:16:09.300 was made for
01:16:10.160 we can just
01:16:10.640 fix the movie
01:16:11.280 by replacing
01:16:11.980 that black 1.00
01:16:13.420 chick with 1.00
01:16:13.900 Sydney Sweeney
01:16:14.720 clothing optional
01:16:15.720 nice yeah um okay uh that's around skip that one okay that's around the name says wait wait wait
01:16:26.880 the main character is a trickster for the love of the game who keeps betraying his own crew
01:16:32.640 no wonder um he says shapiro and rubin love that movie uh that's a random name says here
01:16:40.920 my favorite part was when that black rapper told us the story of the face that launched a thousand
01:16:46.120 drive-bys okay let's play let's play the let's play the samson are you alive okay
01:16:56.420 hey loadseaters i'm here with you today at harlet castle
01:17:01.860 absolute monster you can see why this location was chosen for the castle it absolutely dominates
01:17:09.880 landscape. Parlech was part of Edward I's Ring of Iron, which sounds like a euphemism more
01:17:15.560 appropriate for his son. A common feature with Edward I's castles is that they were on the sea,
01:17:20.840 but as you can see here it's rather far away. That's because the sea has receded.
01:17:28.280 I thought it was rising.
01:17:32.440 Stop that. Let's go to the next one.
01:17:39.880 I'll load seaters, I'm here at EMF 26 and it's full of trannies 1.00
01:18:07.880 Brilliant 1.00
01:18:08.880 okay let's go the next one
01:18:38.880 nice what are you seeing i don't know what i'm i don't know but it's interesting to notice how
01:18:51.440 yellow the grass has turned yeah yeah it's dry summer let's go next one mecca monday it's actually
01:19:00.540 on monday the mr blobby nationalism segment on thursday may be more important than it appears
01:19:06.040 If even the establishment is pining for the good old days of wholesome quirk-chungus politics,
01:19:11.800 they're admitting their previous modus operandi wasn't working. 0.96
01:19:14.920 This could have major consequences in the future. 0.96
01:19:17.380 Or maybe there isn't that much hope, and it's only a fool's hope. 0.96
01:19:21.560 That's a nice robot you have there. 0.95
01:19:25.960 Why are you laughing so funny?
01:19:28.340 It's just, every time we have the video, some of them are completely disconnected.
01:19:34.060 Oh, right, yeah.
01:19:36.040 Mr. Blobby was a light-hearted creation of a really rather base broadcaster, Noel Edmonds,
01:19:42.840 who rose to prominence bringing joy to the British people through extolling the lost virtue of
01:19:46.800 doing things for others. Noel went on to create a programme decrying the then-falling state of
01:19:51.440 the UK that presaged exactly where we are now. The Mr. Blobby patriotism article was worthy of 0.90
01:19:56.640 derision because the younger generation of today seem to have forgotten what charity truly is and
01:20:00.880 the smile that needs to go with it. Sorry, Carl, Harry, but unless you're willing to be charitable
01:20:06.000 and encourage it in others then you've got your analysis wrong mr blobby isn't the problem people
01:20:10.700 not understanding what he means is bin face is the antithesis of mr blobby
01:20:15.320 thanks yep let's play the next one an rg politician was just demanding the falkland
01:20:26.600 islands back again after the world cup and he described the english living there as an
01:20:32.000 Artificially transplanted population, very interesting term, maybe worth normalizing.
01:20:38.740 And honestly, could be used to describe a lot of other communities around the West, honestly.
01:20:44.900 And I think that's probably why the Labour Party was pushing back so hard against them,
01:20:50.240 because they're basically going, you don't know what you're putting on the table right now.
01:20:56.580 Oh, that's good.
01:20:59.320 Right.
01:20:59.940 Let's go to the website comments.
01:21:02.000 Sophie Liv says, the hilarious thing is that YouTubers have actually been busy adapting the whole thing way more accurately for the last five years.
01:21:09.620 Once again, YouTube just trounced Hollywood already.
01:21:13.280 They mugged them.
01:21:15.740 Derek Power says...
01:21:16.640 This is maxing.
01:21:21.220 Derek Power, Lord and Master of Chippies.
01:21:24.080 All hail the Lord and Master of Chippies.
01:21:26.880 Hot take. 0.99
01:21:27.480 I actually like the Odyssey.
01:21:28.720 I didn't read it as this woke hellfire that others have been making it to be.
01:21:32.960 I understand if you don't like Nolan in general, but it's not some, dare I say, ideological Trojan horse.
01:21:39.300 I don't expect anyone to agree with me on this, and I'm not one to tell you what to think.
01:21:45.380 I appreciate the same courtesy.
01:21:47.560 Furthermore, this shouldn't be taken as a sign that I'm a civilizational traitor.
01:21:51.700 I will only entertain good faith discussions, not validation of knee-jerk emotional responses.
01:21:57.420 Yeah, that's fair. I do say that it is propagandist, just it's not so much the woke, hey, let's change so much this. It's egalitarian thing. And if you read the epic, I think you will see that the character of Odysseus is presented as much more virtues than in the movie, and others are presented in a worse light.
01:22:22.180 So there is definitely some, there's definitely some, you know, egalitarian propaganda there.
01:22:29.900 Right. 0.97
01:22:30.940 Lars Peter Simonson, isn't the Aeneid just the Romans saying we was Greeks and shit? 0.98
01:22:36.540 I think they're trying to say that they are the descendants of the Romans. 0.93
01:22:40.880 It's not exactly clear in the Aeneid where the Trojans descend from in an ethnical sense,
01:22:48.260 because their lineage comes from the gods just like in this lore wherever you have you know
01:22:55.380 heroes and kings they always descend from deities right lord inquisitor hector x has a question for
01:23:02.480 you nate yeah nate are you safe with those two black men in the studio you feel safe do you feel
01:23:12.580 safe okay uh again man he's built like a tank what are you talking about are we safe with him 0.95
01:23:19.080 okay lord in crystal hector x says again so if the movie actually does well doesn't it kill the
01:23:27.020 idea the representation matters since there were no greeks well there was a greek there who
01:23:35.840 or someone who spoke Greek and was told by an Indian
01:23:39.940 that we're Greeks, we're not the sea people.
01:23:43.700 Just on the topic of financials for that movie,
01:23:47.580 there's lots of people praising its opening weekend,
01:23:49.840 which is very big.
01:23:50.780 It's a big opening weekend, absolutely.
01:23:53.060 But what's really important to note is actually
01:23:54.980 total football traffic for that film
01:23:56.880 is significantly less than even Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight.
01:24:02.220 So the total sum of money is high
01:24:04.800 because of premium format screens like imax it's like double the price right it's absolutely
01:24:10.100 staggeringly high so total foot full traffic is actually substantially less so i did a video not
01:24:16.260 to promote it but just to discuss like how do we measure the metrics of quality and success because
01:24:22.620 lots of people are saying well it's a success and i actually i mean i just disagree that it's a
01:24:26.800 success by how do you measure that right because at this point you know you can get into the granular
01:24:31.520 detail and be like yeah not not quite actually yeah geordie swordsman says most interesting
01:24:36.940 take i've heard on the odyssey was little platoons on efap it's a generic vietnam war film
01:24:42.220 odysseus's ptsd antennas being a draft dodger as examples with a superficial odyssey skin suit
01:24:48.740 draped over the top um i will say this you can definitely make the case and there are some
01:24:54.280 great books by i think it was jonathan shea or someone it's odysseus in america and achilles
01:25:00.480 in Vietnam who is talking about this, but I mean, there is, you can play along that theme
01:25:07.580 without making him forget Ithaca and without also trying to present him as way more vicious 0.92
01:25:17.600 than he was. Colin P says, I've noticed over the last few years, a number of films, TV shows,
01:25:23.200 which while they go against the IP, they're supposedly representing may have been okay
01:25:29.220 or even good without that IP link.
01:25:31.860 Obvious race swapping aside,
01:25:33.440 could Nolan's film have been good
01:25:35.060 if it had been a historical movie
01:25:37.560 about another Greek trying to get home
01:25:39.860 rather than, as I saw in the stream recently,
01:25:42.760 another Vietnam War allegory?
01:25:45.520 One of the things that this author has said
01:25:48.060 was that in some respects,
01:25:49.740 these epics did function in a therapeutic manner
01:25:54.060 because they were written for societies
01:25:56.780 that engaged in warfare much more often.
01:26:00.260 So they did have that aspect.
01:26:02.900 But I think we could definitely not have all the other issues.
01:26:10.180 George Happ, for his crimes against culture,
01:26:12.220 Nolan would never be allowed to return home to the British Isles. 0.92
01:26:16.240 May he endlessly wander in the sea of slop he created. 0.98
01:26:20.420 And that's around the name says, damn, Odysseus got ghosted even by his own mom. 0.98
01:26:25.560 it's rough in them streets 0.98
01:26:27.760 right do you want to read
01:26:29.600 do you want me to read them I'll read a couple
01:26:31.940 of them
01:26:32.460 Omar Awad says
01:26:35.800 you could probably significantly and immediately
01:26:37.740 improve society
01:26:38.860 by bukeling everybody
01:26:41.740 based on our reddit physiognomy
01:26:43.420 hit the gym and learn to shower if you
01:26:45.800 don't want to end up in jail
01:26:47.660 yeah fair enough
01:26:49.100 the starmer's
01:26:51.640 fiery but mostly peaceful
01:26:53.380 back door.
01:26:56.360 What I hate about the obfuscation
01:26:57.780 about Whittacombe's murder
01:26:59.680 is how by withholding the details
01:27:01.520 they keep referring to it
01:27:04.100 in the abstract, like she just
01:27:05.880 died. They conceal the
01:27:07.920 horror of what that
01:27:09.760 actually means, which is that a 78-year-old
01:27:11.980 woman getting brutally
01:27:13.700 beaten to death while she was alone and powerless
01:27:15.880 to defend herself. She wasn't
01:27:17.800 just some random person. We've all
01:27:19.800 grown to know her a bit over the years. She was on
01:27:21.640 Strictly, the fact that MPs would cover this up
01:27:26.540 about one of their own actually sickens me,
01:27:29.640 like few things have recently in politics.
01:27:31.860 She wasn't one of their own. 1.00
01:27:33.820 She was always a discipline. 1.00
01:27:35.080 She opposed the agenda,
01:27:38.480 even when she was a conservative MP.
01:27:40.940 From the Climate Change Act onwards,
01:27:43.720 she always stood apart. 0.90
01:27:45.940 That's why they're fine with her being murdered,
01:27:47.800 because that's their view on disagreement.
01:27:50.860 Yeah.
01:27:51.640 uh also it's an assassination i think i think it quantifies is that it's an assassination right
01:27:57.060 uh grant gibson everyone is tied to morgan mcsweeney you have to ask how are they connected
01:28:02.500 uh very often perhaps through mandelson lancelot says funny how leftists are against the death
01:28:08.960 penalty until it's their political opponents being killed then they celebrate no it's not funny but
01:28:14.400 yes that's a good observation we got um i read one of them already that was on yours but there's
01:28:21.220 one anyway omar awad says most people don't look at the statistics but they've noticed the decline
01:28:25.840 anyway they can refuse to publish the data but feelings don't care if you hide the facts
01:28:30.280 also if if it were in the case they would definitely publish it and say
01:28:35.220 look all of you people they would publish in your face your yeah yeah it's just
01:28:40.560 right so thank you very much for today thank you brother for us thank you brother nate
01:28:47.760 thank you and we have islander number six issue number six definitely get a copy of it
01:28:56.980 it has great articles inside i know luca was writing the article here about samwise gamji for
01:29:04.520 for weeks he was really into it it's all there is also the interview of an economist called
01:29:11.980 Michael Hudson. Definitely buy it. So Islander number six, only $40.99. 3 p.m. today, we will
01:29:20.880 have Realpolitik. Firas is going to talk about Iran and the larger geopolitical setting. So
01:29:29.160 don't miss that. See you then. Goodbye.