The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1497

00:00:00.000 good afternoon and welcome to the podcast of the lotus eaters episode 1497 on today the second of

00:00:06.380 september i'm your host harry joined today by pharez hello and connor hello there thank you

00:00:11.520 both for joining me and today we're going to be talking about restores new is it the re-migration

00:00:16.560 philosophy it's the national philosophy of nation interesting yes they do say re-migration there

00:00:23.640 you go do say re-migration and they do talk about such as approval withdrawals and things of that

00:00:29.480 nature well you can take us through all of that during the segment and then we're going to be

00:00:33.320 talking about reform's uh attempted based turn they've got the party conference in about two

00:00:39.360 days and they're anticipating a general election either later this year or early next year so

00:00:43.140 they're throwing out copious rants of red meat as is to be expected when the conservatives have

00:00:49.020 just overtaken them in some polls and i'll also be taking us whether through the multicultural 0.86

00:00:53.980 working class exists as a spoiler and to break the heart of ash sarkar and the rest of navara

00:00:59.040 media sadly it doesn't but before we get into that news i'd like to let everybody know that

00:01:04.160 after this podcast is done at three o'clock english british time we are going to be having

00:01:09.400 a round table talking about lindsey clancy where i'm sure carl is going to be taking us through 0.97

00:01:14.480 the many horrors that exist on lindsey clancy supporting women's tiktok it's uh five men

00:01:20.380 discussing the lindsey clancy case which would have been the only way that the jury could actually

00:01:23.960 reach a verdict. Yes, are they still in deadlock? Yep, they're still in deadlock. Great. So if you're

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00:01:34.120 If you don't have a subscription to the website, you can easily fix that. Yes, get one. And with

00:01:39.480 that, let's get into the news. All right, so the Restore Party issued their philosophy of national

00:01:48.900 belonging document, Restoring Our Identity. And I wanted to review it with you guys and

00:01:55.720 go over some of the best parts in it, what needs further development, and how to make

00:02:02.020 this more appealing to the public.

00:02:03.820 Can I just say, there has been a consistent criticism made of Restore, whether or not

00:02:10.380 you wait it is up to you, that there hasn't been a consistent, well-defined vision of

00:02:18.240 who British people are, what this means for citizenship policy,

00:02:21.880 what demographic security means as a goal for immigration policy,

00:02:24.800 and I think this does resolve that problem.

00:02:27.360 Well, I have been critical of the fact that depending on who is giving the messaging,

00:02:31.220 it can come across like there are multiple different parties operating under the same name,

00:02:34.800 whether they're over or above the age of 55.

00:02:38.040 Typically, yes, as we've seen from some of the more recent admissions.

00:02:41.900 Yes.

00:02:42.880 No, there is definitely a conflict at the heart of the party

00:02:46.360 between civic nationalism and ethnic nationalism. And what this document tries to do is to set out

00:02:52.740 some terms and some principles. And one of the key ones is that the Britons are a people.

00:02:59.180 And it uses the term Britons to describe those who are of English, Welsh, Scottish, or Northern

00:03:05.440 Irish descent, and clarifies that this is a unique group entitled to have very reasonable

00:03:13.040 concerns about its demographic security, about its ability to continue to perpetuate itself as a

00:03:20.380 group. And it admits pretty clearly that if this group becomes a minority, then Britain is no longer

00:03:26.800 Britain. And this is a pretty good starting point. It's sort of, well, it's self-evident, frankly. 0.85

00:03:35.080 Well, it differentiates its restore and its spokespeople who, you know, want to now stand

00:03:41.480 And by this, from the other parties who either cheerfully goad the native population

00:03:49.660 by denying our existence while celebrating our dispossession of our country

00:03:52.620 in the sort of Bob Villain sense, you know, 0.99

00:03:54.520 heard you want your country back, gammon shut the F up.

00:03:57.200 Or the parties who are indifferent about our demographic security

00:04:01.040 while also supporting said demographic security for other countries elsewhere.

00:04:05.520 Yes. Well, yes, that's a fair summary.

00:04:08.100 So to clarify, is this a policy paper?

00:04:11.060 this is not a policy paper it's a bit both actually because they do set forward some

00:04:14.480 policies in it so they they do say that you know demographic security should be the driving

00:04:19.400 principle of all for forthgoing immigration policy and then they restrict future citizenship

00:04:23.860 grants with certain conditions and say that they're they're willing to revisit recent

00:04:27.960 citizenship grants given out record rates and just take them away yeah i think the the most

00:04:32.800 important point is that a as you say it says that going forward citizenship will only be given by

00:04:39.240 marriage, which pretty good. And it says that a restored Britain government will conduct a mass

00:04:48.640 review of citizenships issued over the past few decades. And this is substantial. Now, we can talk

00:04:57.880 about the criteria of where does a citizenship get revoked and where it doesn't. But the fact that

00:05:04.160 it is going to be a mass review extending back decades I think is very new and setting it out

00:05:12.760 in black and white is pretty important especially as it's paired with the objective being restoring

00:05:18.980 demographic security and millions must go with the projection that in the first parliament of

00:05:26.060 a restored Britain government five million people plus will be leaving the UK through both enforced

00:05:33.100 returns and self-deportation through through a combination of of of these two policies yes

00:05:37.740 um it tries to navigate a balance between uh civic nationalism the realities of the modern state as

00:05:46.060 it is um equal equality before the law and reversing mass immigration which no other party

00:05:55.860 has even attempted to define as a problem let alone an issue to be solved so in that sense

00:06:01.780 it's a big improvement. It says that British citizenship must mean something. Britain is more

00:06:08.700 than an administrative database of passport holders, which is correct. I am paper British, 1.00

00:06:14.800 I'm not British, and this should be recognized. Britain is a historic national community built

00:06:20.580 over generations through family, place, language, culture, institutions, sacrifice, loyalty,

00:06:26.560 and shared experience i would have added religion to this and made a bigger issue of that but that's

00:06:33.620 just me there's been a bit of uproar whenever charlie has done that in the past so i can

00:06:38.520 understand they don't want to step on that landmine at the moment yeah yes but it's just

00:06:42.360 factually correct but it is if you if you just even if you want to go back to the work of alan

00:06:46.400 mcfarlane just saying okay the prohibition on cousin marriage by the first first archbishop

00:06:51.160 of canterbury and even though henry viii you know de facto overturned it it didn't it wasn't popular

00:06:55.720 except among the upper echelons of the royalty and society

00:06:58.520 shaped our small family farm holdings,

00:07:01.820 our markets, our manners, our morals. 1.00

00:07:03.520 So the church basically created the ethnic groups 0.89

00:07:06.420 of the British Isles in the way that they exist today. 0.86

00:07:09.160 So you can at least say our Christian heritage 0.99

00:07:10.940 is inextricable from our identity.

00:07:12.760 I think that's...

00:07:13.480 And it does say that the restored Britain government

00:07:16.800 will mount a muscular defense of Britain's Christian identity.

00:07:20.140 Yes.

00:07:20.640 So this is important.

00:07:23.400 It focuses a lot on demographic security.

00:07:25.720 and on the idea of maintaining demographic security for the British

00:07:29.480 so that their children would recognize the country that they live in as theirs

00:07:33.860 while accepting that if the country is overrun by Somalians, Afghans, Indians, Africans, 0.98

00:07:41.660 it would not be Britain anymore, 1.00

00:07:44.260 contrary to what, say, the Conservatives or Labour or even reform would tell you.

00:07:51.200 So this is substantial. This is quite important.

00:07:53.860 So there's nothing about recently arrived Afghans being equal inheritors of Alfred's history? 1.00

00:07:59.900 Funnily enough, no. 0.79

00:08:01.420 For some reason, they must have missed that detail.

00:08:03.720 Spicy.

00:08:04.440 Yes.

00:08:05.000 Yes, exactly.

00:08:06.800 It blames previous governments for this wreck.

00:08:10.300 It says all parties as well, which I found interesting. 0.83

00:08:12.240 And it says all parties have permitted extraordinary levels of immigration for decades

00:08:15.960 and granted citizenship on a scale that would once have been considered unthinkable.

00:08:20.900 I mean, Enoch Powell was saying tens of thousands a year was too much, and now people would be

00:08:28.620 extremely happy with just tens of thousands a year. And this has had a transformative effect

00:08:34.040 on Britain, and the paper recognizes that, look, there has been full-scale replacement,

00:08:40.640 and replacement is the correct word to use. There has been colonization, and colonization

00:08:45.980 is the correct word to use so that really throws a gauntlet in front of all other parties

00:08:52.080 to make them address the issue of whether or not they recognize reality and claiming that i don't

00:08:59.440 know birmingham isn't colonized and that the population of birmingham hasn't been replaced

00:09:03.820 or the population of london hasn't been replaced well your eyes tell you a completely different

00:09:08.640 story especially if restore britain aren't arguing for a drastic expansion of state power in order

00:09:17.600 to do this they can use the existing powers enjoyed by the home secretary yes to conduct

00:09:21.260 this review to revoke citizenships as we've seen with shemima begum or even the english guy who's

00:09:25.880 since been stranded in russia because he has a russian wife and he seems to be a bit of a russia

00:09:29.140 boo by shabana mahoud of all people so what happens then you're right to say gauntlet's

00:09:33.880 throne it puts the onus that the burden of proof on other parties to turn around and say okay

00:09:38.840 if we reject this multicultural settlement if we say that our towns and cities have been 0.93

00:09:43.420 demographically and culturally colonized and vandalized you have to make the positive case 0.98

00:09:47.700 of why we don't just press the fix everything button yes you have to justify now why we can't

00:09:51.940 just take these people's citizenships away and if you if you're really just going to say well

00:09:55.500 it's difficult or it's mean then sorry but that's not a good enough reason to persuade me why we

00:10:01.100 shouldn't do this absolutely absolutely um it makes a point of saying that saying that this

00:10:06.280 is not a racial policy which i'm sure will upset some people on the online right but frankly i

00:10:12.760 you know this is this is what the document says uh so also it would be illegal if it were

00:10:18.680 say again it would be illegal if it were i mean if you came out i'm not saying restore britain

00:10:22.420 plan to do so but restore britain came out and said we're gonna break out the family guy color

00:10:26.560 watch and deport everyone who isn't the the milkier shade then the electoral commission would be all 0.97

00:10:31.960 over their ass well that is also part of the reality um it says someone can acquire british 0.98

00:10:38.400 citizenship in law without instantly acquiring the same relationship with britain as somebody 0.99

00:10:42.640 whose entire life or whose family's life over generations has been rooted here this seems to

00:10:47.640 be a real statement of the obvious um i reject the two extremes i reject the proposition that

00:10:54.760 Britishness is exclusively racial. I also reject the proposition that Britain is merely an economic

00:10:59.720 zone, a hotel or a business, and that anyone in the world can become indistinguishable from

00:11:04.440 our historic national community simply through an administrative process. That to me sounds

00:11:10.860 fair-minded. That to me sounds balanced and fair-minded and in line with the political

00:11:16.120 realities as they currently exist, given that the state would love nothing more than to crush

00:11:21.480 restore Britain at any opportunity that that is given it's also when they say historic national

00:11:26.720 community you can substitute that out with extended family right you can have an adopted

00:11:30.420 family member but and you might love them but that doesn't mean that they are automatically

00:11:35.860 grafted into the lineage in the same way as if you are born to that family and in the contrary

00:11:41.400 civic nationalism says well anyone can show up to your home identify as a member of your family

00:11:45.060 write themselves into your will and then retroactively replace all the pictures on the

00:11:49.480 mantelpiece with voters of themselves and they are just as much as a member of your family as

00:11:54.060 as you are and they actually they should actually get your parents house actually yeah so it's it's

00:11:58.040 it recognizes right we might have an occasional adopted family member but you can't just annex

00:12:03.100 my family name to yours yes yes yes um and it says that we should be able to discuss the scale speed

00:12:10.940 and consequences of that transformation the demographic transformation of written openly

00:12:14.540 using the evidence because this is a real country not administrative units on a spreadsheet

00:12:20.300 they are real historic communities with real identities and connections to play stretching

00:12:26.580 back generations these ethnic identities scottish irish british sorry english welsh scottish northern

00:12:34.480 irish are real ethnic identities reflecting generations of connection to a particular part

00:12:41.660 these islands there's nothing shameful about that and ethnicity culture ancestry and belonging

00:12:48.460 describe different aspects of our identity fair enough fair enough it makes a distinction

00:12:54.700 between having citizenship and being part of the national identity yes it insists on

00:13:01.180 equality before the law but not on everybody getting the same exact privileges it makes a

00:13:07.180 a distinction between uh equal treatment and identical treatment and and also the belief is

00:13:12.420 if you have a disjunction from this civic understanding of britishness that everyone

00:13:17.540 is as british as you are because of having a passport if you apply the the modifier of

00:13:21.560 essentially you've got to be ruth the moabite by marrying into the tribe right if you apply that

00:13:24.780 modifier as the only way you get citizenship going forwards then that that means that subsequent

00:13:29.360 generations will actually be married in with british heritage at the request of the british

00:13:33.600 population so it brings back the sense of democratic consent and obligations imposed

00:13:38.080 on immigrant communities and then that means this will resolve this confusion within one or

00:13:41.400 two generations because people will have british heritage and they'll go no i'm british because

00:13:44.660 i have english scottish welsh and irish ancestry yeah well this does um with the with the marriage

00:13:50.520 thing um beg one question which is that if we are rejecting the purely obviously he says he's

00:13:58.700 rejecting both extremes purely racial and then purely economic zone of those populations say

00:14:05.200 are who have descended from the wind rush will they be entitled to maintain their own citizenship

00:14:11.720 at which point people who marry into those populations that have no ancestral

00:14:17.380 ethnic ties to england but have been still granted a kind of civic identity as part of this as part

00:14:25.780 of this country uh would they still be granted citizenship through that well they'll be on

00:14:30.380 red list countries so you won't get any new immigrants from there so they they well so would

00:14:35.840 this entirely reject um the commonwealth pretty much yeah yeah india's already banned india's 0.67

00:14:41.840 already in the immigration red list so it's pakistan so nigeria so basically the entire

00:14:45.760 third world it would be very similar similar to what the trump administration 93 countries ban

00:14:49.980 it's just plus the extra ones that we also don't like that they aren't going to do for

00:14:53.880 politically expedient reasons all right so a follow-up question off the back of that in that

00:14:57.380 case so we go with the berlusconi immigration policy hypothetically one the ali g uh immigration

00:15:04.820 policy a very attractive slavic woman comes over and moves to britain she marries in to britain

00:15:14.180 through getting with a descendant of the windrous generation this is this is a pure hypothetical

00:15:20.240 Would she then have citizenship under that? 0.94

00:15:23.500 I think legally she would.

00:15:24.760 Legally she would.

00:15:25.940 I just wanted to clarify that.

00:15:27.260 Yeah.

00:15:27.660 This is just my understanding, by the way,

00:15:29.440 because I didn't write this.

00:15:30.540 I can see this is written more as a 13-page long-form essay.

00:15:35.100 Yes.

00:15:35.640 This is what it is.

00:15:36.840 This is what it is.

00:15:40.800 And then there is the question of remigration and who would leave. 1.00

00:15:44.900 Those who are here illegally, 1.00

00:15:46.880 those who have arrived without permission 1.00

00:15:48.880 and yet fraudulently granted refugee status by a corrupt British state.

00:15:55.100 Fraudulently can mean a lot of things here.

00:15:57.180 For example, if you claim that you're a refugee when you're in France,

00:16:01.440 you're not a refugee when you enter England.

00:16:03.360 So that can be encompassing, but clarifying that is important.

00:16:08.560 Manifesto commitments to, say, bringing migration down to the tens of thousands

00:16:11.500 and then doing it in the millions would also be defrauding the electorate. 1.00

00:16:16.100 That is a very good point. 1.00

00:16:18.880 And those legal migrants who refuse to accept our culture, our way of life, our identity. 1.00

00:16:24.720 Now, that is a very broad thing. 0.97

00:16:28.440 And that applies to Muslims as well as it does to some Hindus, as well as it applies to, say, African animists, as well as it applies to all kinds of other people.

00:16:38.520 Given the terms of reference laid out in this policy document, if you're saying you would refuse to accept our identity, that would also apply to any migrant or any person who is eligible for citizenship elsewhere who denies that the distinct groups of the English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish exist.

00:16:54.740 this is a big part of the problem the part of the problem is that this is meant to address

00:17:01.940 vagueness but it is still vague and open to multiple interpretations and it reflects a

00:17:07.520 conflict within the party over which interpretation to use however as a starting point realistically

00:17:14.640 you are not getting a better one from anywhere plus existing citizenship power that stripping

00:17:21.600 citizenship power relies on the standard of it is conducive to the public good that you no longer

00:17:26.440 have british citizenship yes that's that's even more woolly than at least the criteria that's

00:17:30.140 out there well yes and if these two are paired together then five million becomes a bit of an 0.92

00:17:35.680 underestimate um so the this this is substantial uh those legal migrants who are those who fail 0.99

00:17:44.060 to contribute that's very broad that is very broad uh commit crime refuse to work or even 0.91

00:17:51.080 learn our language, okay? These aren't all threatened with citizenship revocation as I read

00:17:57.760 the policy, and there is a tension over whether or not they would be, and that should be resolved. 1.00

00:18:04.380 Because when it comes to citizenship revocations, it's a dual national who engages in terrorism,

00:18:11.500 espionage, murder, rape, treasonous activity, or similarly extreme conduct. Citizenship obtained 0.95

00:18:17.720 through fraud or deception will also be revoked a mass review of citizenships granted will therefore

00:18:22.760 be undertaken when an individual has renounced another nationality to frustrate justice

00:18:27.960 a restored government will seek agreements to send them back fair enough um there is something else

00:18:35.160 that is hinted at here which is basically from this paragraph uh when it comes to day-to-day

00:18:42.200 management of the nation's limited resources, we have no choice but to prioritize and deprioritize

00:18:47.860 in ways that take into account the differences in backgrounds between different groups of people,

00:18:53.620 those who have an ancestral claim and those who don't. In fact, our welfare educational

00:18:58.440 health systems already do so in certain respects. As far as we are concerned at Restore Britain,

00:19:03.920 to be treated equally before the law as every British citizen should be is not the same as

00:19:09.120 being treated identically as a matter of public policy. Who does the country belong to? Yes. The

00:19:13.740 question is settled. Yes. And what is hinted at here, essentially, is that if you are a foreign

00:19:19.760 extraction, fully foreign extraction, you don't get to claim access to benefits across the board

00:19:26.820 from healthcare to education to welfare from the British state. It's not what Danny Kruger

00:19:32.720 suggested upon the announcement of Robert Jenrick's otherwise pretty good policy on banning foreign 1.00

00:19:37.760 nationals from claiming social housing and benefits and he just suggested they should 0.99

00:19:41.340 have a gold rush to claiming british citizenship so you can continue sponging off the taxpayer

00:19:45.820 exactly and that contrast is pretty important um what is missing in terms of clarification i would

00:19:54.020 argue is whether or not dual nationals who are living on benefits get to maintain their citizenship

00:20:00.800 and their benefits this should be spelled out clearly that if you are a dual national and

00:20:06.660 your own benefits bye-bye yeah it's suggested elsewhere it's suggested it's hinted at it's not

00:20:13.840 said explicitly it is probably better to say it explicitly and to be honest about it as this issue

00:20:21.200 has to be resolved as far as i know and i don't want to tread on harrison's toes here but they

00:20:24.760 are working on a longer legal migration and citizenship policy document that will be replete

00:20:30.680 with footnotes and suggested bits of legislation to repeal but yes that needs to be the successor

00:20:36.180 to this yes it's just a statement of intent i think exactly exactly exactly uh what's also

00:20:42.120 missing is it's not just some crimes that should lead to deportation like murder and rape all

00:20:48.460 it is all at the end of the day david lammy is a criminal foreign underclass that has citizenship

00:20:55.660 and they shouldn't be tolerated this should be solved david lammy wrote the forward to a paper

00:21:03.300 i think it's 2019 about um the rates of incarceration for bame people or whatever acronym

00:21:08.220 he used and he said something very interesting which was like um 1.92 million people of foreign

00:21:13.960 heritage have a criminal record and so if you're going to say well i want to deport foreign

00:21:19.240 criminals then i mean that's a very large cohort of people you could strip citizenship from yeah 1.00

00:21:24.040 that that should definitely lead to you know waving them goodbye at the airport

00:21:30.340 it um it mentions religious conflict and islamic colonization but there are there is just as much

00:21:36.660 a conflict with hinduism and the cultural practices of hinduism which are entirely alien

00:21:42.560 welcome to south hall where they're just sort of spitting pan everywhere well yes well yes in the

00:21:48.580 same way as i said earlier there is a conflict with african animists every few years you hear 0.95

00:21:52.940 a story about some kind of child sacrifice, some kind of albino child getting murdered in rather

00:22:01.480 brutal ways. So this also should be included. There has to be an economic program because you

00:22:08.480 need to explain to the public the actual benefits of this policy. How does it impact you? And one

00:22:14.360 of the answers is, you know, if there are a million houses made available in the first parliamentary

00:22:21.740 term of a restored government, that is a pretty significant drop in housing costs for a lot of

00:22:27.220 people. That is a lot of used cars being sold. That is a lot of space that is opened up. That

00:22:36.440 is a huge drop in crime. That is a huge improvement in living standards. There has to be some tie-in

00:22:44.660 to the economic benefits to the public in order to convey the message to them as to how this is

00:22:51.320 of benefit. You've got to sell it to the public beyond just the cultural aspect. There is also

00:22:57.220 the drop in the welfare bill, the drop in taxation, etc. Now, Restore have come out with a policy

00:23:02.480 on the kinds of reductions in welfare that they will be making and the reductions in spending

00:23:08.220 and in taxes that they will be making. This should be roped into it. There has to be an

00:23:15.200 integrated program. This is a young party at the end of the day, six months old. But you're right

00:23:19.160 But setting up the ambition and communicating the message better are what all parties need to do all the time.

00:23:27.220 This is not exclusive to Restore.

00:23:29.280 Restore at least is honest about the nature of British identity and who this country actually belongs to.

00:23:34.560 What was interesting as well in their economics paper, I think it was on page 37 or something,

00:23:37.960 there was a footnote in there that said,

00:23:40.940 Reform UK have dedicated themselves to abolishing indefinite leave to remain.

00:23:44.780 Yes.

00:23:45.180 And this will save a significant amount on the benefits bill.

00:23:48.180 However, telegraphing your intent to abolish ILR will only lead to lots of people going and claiming citizenship, as Danny Kruger has suggested.

00:23:55.140 So, in their economics paper, they said, in order to save the British taxpayer money, our focus should be citizenship.

00:23:59.680 So, that does suggest that any foreigner who claims citizenship is a net tax recipient, claims welfare, will have their citizenship stripped, and they'll be sent home under restore. 0.50

00:24:10.200 Yes, yes. 0.99

00:24:11.520 All in all, I think this is a massive improvement on everything else.

00:24:15.760 I think it's good to resolve this debate. I think it needs follow-up, as do all government policies

00:24:22.900 that are proposed, as do all parties' policies and priorities. When you meet reality, you find

00:24:29.040 all kinds of new conflicts and new issues, and the more you define your position, the better.

00:24:35.400 But I can't think of any other party that's willing to even engage in the subject

00:24:38.680 and to be honest about it and to say that demographic security is actually a top priority

00:24:43.660 and that this demographic insecurity should be utterly rejected so all in all i rate this quite

00:24:50.540 highly yeah yeah all right then rude all right the one thing that does always cross across my

00:24:58.840 mind when we talk about um housing prices being reduced if we were to get rid of all of the people

00:25:05.420 is uh you would have to kind of get into some kind of knockout brawl with the banks

00:25:10.940 yes over that like because you're basically hitting the heart of the the usurious system

00:25:19.320 that we live under asset price inflation asset price inflation to ensure that people are having

00:25:25.000 to uh shill out 50 plus percent of their income every single month on debt payments and that is

00:25:33.900 what the system is built off both for financial reasons and also to create the surf underclass

00:25:38.880 that they want us all to be yes i i agree but that's that's just that's that's so that's so

00:25:44.640 difficult to even map out how you would do something like that and i think if you are

00:25:49.120 positioning yourself to convince the left delivering a major blow to the banking sector

00:25:55.380 is going to be pretty popular across the board especially if it comes with a bunch of legislation

00:26:00.660 that limits interest rates on credit cards that kills off things like clarna and borrowing money

00:26:06.940 to buy Deliveroo that sort of reduces

00:26:10.120 the amount of indebtedness that people are under,

00:26:12.320 that reduces student debts.

00:26:14.160 So a policy to tackle youth debts

00:26:18.100 can be an excellent addition to this.

00:26:21.960 And if you're going to do debt forgiveness, 1.00

00:26:24.360 why would you do it to foreigners? 0.99

00:26:26.340 You're doing it for your own people.

00:26:28.040 Point Caleb Hamm of the Treasury spokesperson.

00:26:31.200 So that's one thing.

00:26:33.340 And the second thing is that

00:26:34.980 um there's got to be i mean restore would do well to look at what um the social democratic party did

00:26:43.780 in terms of the investment state and the idea of transforming the economy through

00:26:49.700 investments that lead to a much better uh energy food and industrial output and that would be

00:26:57.940 massively massively helpful here because it would shift the political economy from

00:27:03.140 from the banks being in charge to the productive sectors being in charge and that is another part

00:27:08.760 of the debate if you want to convince the lefties i think with the lefties we can agree that usury

00:27:13.280 is evil and that the banks are a problem well okay give people productive jobs quite and don't forget

00:27:21.360 to join us in half an hour for the round table please not half an hour an hour and a half in an

00:27:26.580 hour unless we're going to have to speed run because you don't okay come on come on go to

00:27:30.980 opposite right now you've got 10 minutes connor we'll be all right so reform conference is tomorrow

00:27:37.680 at time of recording and it seems that ahead of this and ahead of the anticipated early election

00:27:44.120 that kemi badenok seems to say that she thinks is coming either at the end of this year or early

00:27:48.540 next year which is why she's reshuffled her shadow cabinet it's why she's demanding meetings with the

00:27:52.500 civil service because she thinks she's going to get to play at being prime minister it seems that 1.00

00:27:56.400 reform are throwing out red meat to their base. They realise that there is a gulf between many

00:28:01.080 of their voters who, when in polls by the IPPR or Raikou Darling's Dame Sarah Khan, say, yeah,

00:28:07.840 we don't like Islam very much, we think Britain is a nation of ethnic groups rather than civic

00:28:13.360 values, and also we think diversity has destroyed our national identity. And then some of the 1.00

00:28:17.800 leadership figures, especially the Tory defectors or the sort of boomer conservatives, who say

00:28:22.140 they're in different demographic change, that they are enthusiastic about foreign wars which

00:28:27.680 aren't going so well, and have previously said that mass deportations are a political impossibility

00:28:32.360 despite rowing back on that. And so they're trying to make up that deficit and credibility

00:28:36.780 with some of their own voters who have now drifted towards Restore, but also the broader electorate

00:28:41.660 because they're stagnating in the polls. Now, before we look at these polls, I do have to

00:28:45.340 direct your attention to the website because, again, at time of recording this afternoon,

00:28:48.400 We're doing a roundtable on the Lindsay Clancy case,

00:28:50.900 speaking of things that are going about

00:28:52.120 as well as Britain's electoral system.

00:28:54.600 They've got a deadlock on the jury.

00:28:56.800 The Foyds aren't recovering from this one.

00:28:58.060 And we've got a deadlock in our political system

00:28:59.420 because if you look at the recent polls from YouGov,

00:29:01.780 you've got the voting intention

00:29:02.540 and there's a reason why you can't see the Labour figure

00:29:06.420 right there towards the end

00:29:08.080 and the Conservative figure.

00:29:10.400 You can see the Conservative figure,

00:29:11.280 but not the Reform figure.

00:29:12.260 I know it's difficult to tell between teal and dark blue 1.00

00:29:14.220 because they're all neck and neck.

00:29:16.020 they're all in about 20 to 22 percent the burn and bumpers leveled out and now we're just in

00:29:21.680 stasis yeah and the chemi climb has been like everything chemi does late but now now they're

00:29:29.240 roughly equal and bear in mind this didn't need to be the case because well middle of last year

00:29:34.620 around the local elections reform were at 29 often 32 and that's an outright majority so reform have

00:29:41.220 lost their majority and so there are there are some reasons for this that people in reform will

00:29:44.960 give. They'll say that the depreciated salience of immigration is an issue for a time where crime 0.66

00:29:49.740 and economics was rising, but immigration is now back at the top of the agenda and reform haven't

00:29:53.420 regained their ground. And even those inside reform at the leadership level will admit that

00:29:58.440 some of the Tory defectors were a disaster. Because you can't say, we are the solution to

00:30:02.960 the Boris wave, and in order to fix that problem, we're going to appoint the people whose fault it

00:30:08.040 is to clear up the mess that they made. Especially the likes of Nadim Zahawi and Nadine Dorries.

00:30:13.040 what about giving the uh migrant citizenship so that they can claim benefits as much as they want 0.69

00:30:18.700 yeah or um the mass yeah the mass amnesty or saying somalis need to send home their their 0.75

00:30:24.280 taxpayer subsidies in remittances so we don't have to keep paying them in foreign aid or just you

00:30:29.840 know the disaster of him being vaccines czar during the covid lockdowns all of these things

00:30:34.280 dented reform's credibility and some in reform have recognized this i mean i think we can all

00:30:39.320 say, despite criticisms of Zia Yusuf, his hatred

00:30:41.320 of the Tories is sincere. Yes.

00:30:43.160 He's making that known, hence the short-lived

00:30:45.300 op by Tim Montgomery and Co. to

00:30:47.040 oust him from the party. But now

00:30:49.280 they've got more factual infighting than they needed

00:30:51.420 and they've lost about 8-10%

00:30:53.480 in the polling. And so they're not doing so great. So ahead

00:30:55.360 of their conference, they've put some feelers

00:30:57.320 out there in policy and in promises to

00:30:59.260 appoint other spokespeople. Because at the same

00:31:01.300 time, that Kimmy Baden-Ock has replaced

00:31:02.800 shepherd of the Boris wave Priti Patel

00:31:04.900 as shadow foreign secretary with

00:31:06.920 Bilderberg neocon,

00:31:09.080 Tom Tugendhat, maybe you watched your segment last week,

00:31:11.360 Firaz, and is anticipating the drums of war in Russia,

00:31:14.360 reform don't have a defence spokesman.

00:31:17.200 That's quite conspicuous, actually,

00:31:18.600 especially given that Farage himself is a bit of a military history autist.

00:31:22.180 You would have expected that.

00:31:23.540 Well, while he was campaigning down in Clacton

00:31:26.100 for the first of probably two by-elections,

00:31:29.360 he spoke to James Heal of The Spectator,

00:31:30.880 and they got the official scoop,

00:31:32.080 and they said that in September,

00:31:33.840 you've got the reform conference,

00:31:36.360 and I forget where it was in here,

00:31:37.520 But it essentially says that during the conference, they are going to make additional shadow cabinet appointments.

00:31:43.680 They call it a shadow cabinet, but they're still, you know, spokespeople because they're not the opposition.

00:31:46.840 And they said two or three more are going to come.

00:31:48.500 So the foreign and defense briefs are most likely to be filled.

00:31:51.000 I would say justice as well is pretty likely.

00:31:53.220 I'm shocked they didn't put Generic in justice.

00:31:54.780 But of course, Generic being a proxy for George Osborne and very ambitious, he wanted to be in the second command role.

00:32:02.580 it's also interesting that um so defense i would say someone probably like james glancy who is uh

00:32:07.720 ex-afghan military vet very well spoken and was a brexit party mep it's interesting for foreign

00:32:13.440 though i i happen to know that another member of reform's team wanted that brief and settled for

00:32:17.940 something else instead because they were told on non-certain terms the deal that saw nadim zahawi

00:32:24.060 defect to reform would have given him the foreign affairs brief which and firas for audio listeners

00:32:30.540 Firaz is sitting back in his chair here because Firaz and I have both covered before his connections

00:32:34.400 to the Iraqi Kurds, his business meetings in the Middle East, his

00:32:38.460 enthusiasm for the Iran War. So some of the counters that I've

00:32:42.640 heard from reform supporters

00:32:46.160 to the criticism of people like Nadim Zahawi being in the party

00:32:50.320 and Nadim Doris and others is that, oh well, they're kind of just

00:32:54.320 squirreled away in nothing positions or don't even have official positions outside

00:32:58.400 being members they're not causing any trouble they're not doing anything why do you even care

00:33:02.360 where your contending is actually unsurprisingly that there is jostling within the party by these

00:33:08.060 people to try and get themselves into important positions he came over things up he came over on

00:33:12.400 the condition that he would be the foreign affairs spokesman which is why they didn't announce it

00:33:15.160 when they announced the first round because they knew the membership would hate it that's not going

00:33:18.420 to be the case now i actually think instead and again i don't have the inside track on this but i

00:33:21.980 think alan mendoza is probably going to end up being the foreign affairs spokesman and again

00:33:24.840 whereas it's livid because alan mendoza former head of the henry jackson society hasn't seen

00:33:28.740 a stretch of land in the middle east that he hadn't wanted to invade alan mendoza is genuinely

00:33:33.040 unhinged alan mendoza is pro-iran war pro every intervention in the middle east pro escalation 0.50

00:33:41.740 with russia as a stop togana uh whatever his name is yeah these are people who are genuinely

00:33:48.120 dangerous when britain is falling apart at home you don't go seeking out foreign wars just as a

00:33:54.620 matter of simple strategy and when you have no ability to fight a war you don't go out looking

00:34:00.460 for wars let alone when you look at the state exactly what let alone when you look at the

00:34:04.300 state of the british navy the british aircraft carriers the missile systems the absence of a

00:34:09.900 missile defense system you don't go provoking russia and china and iran who are very capable

00:34:16.660 with their missiles when you don't have any missile defense so you're suggesting i can't

00:34:21.460 trust ahmed who got off of the boat yesterday to go back to the middle east and fight his cousins

00:34:26.180 well if you must know the eu and britain are trying to make ukrainian men go and fight

00:34:34.140 for ukraine but they would never say to a syrian or an afghan go back home and fight the jihadis

00:34:40.940 so uh make of that what you will george washington's still hiding out in the

00:34:46.760 foothills of Afghanistan somewhere. We'll find him eventually. Anyway, as they're also anticipating

00:34:51.580 the early election, speaking of administrations who have been embroiled in foreign conflicts,

00:34:56.620 which were unpopular with their base, they've been visiting America quite a lot. Zia Youssef

00:34:59.900 went over in June to sort of consolidate loyalties with aligned organizations like Heritage,

00:35:06.620 especially because there was a lot of chatter on Capitol Hill, the Restore Britain with the new

00:35:10.400 In Vogue party with many people in the Trump administration, particularly the Zoomers, our

00:35:14.900 guys and rob jenrich went out there for a recent round um because i'm gonna scroll down because my 1.00

00:35:19.120 mouse isn't working for some reason but speaking exclusively to gb news uh during the visit and of

00:35:24.080 course gb news america was generated by paul marshall to get more influence in the uh in the

00:35:28.320 trump orbit that's why they stationed bev turner on air force one jenrich said reform wanted to be

00:35:33.080 ready for the next election which could come much sooner than the expected 2029 date and i spoke to

00:35:36.880 someone senior in reform yesterday in preparation for this segment and i said do you put much stock

00:35:41.400 in kemi's kemi's claim and they said absolutely 100 they're planning for it to be mid-2027

00:35:48.120 which is why the purpose of their uh conference coming up is outlining the first hundred days of

00:35:55.220 reform uh administration where are those where's the idea of a that early an election coming from

00:36:01.440 they think that burnham doesn't like the 2024 manifesto they think that there isn't enough

00:36:06.920 fiscal headroom to borrow on current economic projections and that if he wants to break from

00:36:12.240 the manifesto he's going to have to revolt against his backbenchers which is going to be quite

00:36:15.540 difficult so he needs a new mandate that's their argument and he thinks also that this is um burnham

00:36:21.120 his psychology this is the time at which he's going to get his strongest polling and he might

00:36:25.200 be able to pull a slim more loyal majority out so it's sort of theresa may gambit that happened

00:36:31.320 with corbyn in 2017 um but i mean the bond market is exploding so just as a side note yes it's

00:36:37.760 basically like trying to snatch his hat like indiana jones out from under the closing door

00:36:40.640 right can we swap mouses quickly sorry because i can't even scroll down on the uh thank you sir

00:36:45.360 appreciated uh jenryk said it was very important the us and uk relations were strong given america

00:36:50.360 remains britain's primary defense security and trading partnership very conspicuous though that

00:36:53.880 jenryk was one of the only voices against the iran war in reform he wrote a very lengthy telegraph

00:36:59.520 piece against it. I think that was probably James Orr's influence because he's quite astute.

00:37:04.060 He said, under a reformed government, while we obviously want to put the interests of British

00:37:06.460 people in our own country first, we want to maintain and deepen the American and British

00:37:10.360 relationship. And he said, on migration, there's a lot we can learn from Donald Trump's approach.

00:37:14.840 And he said, I think 3,000 migrants are being removed from the United States every day at the

00:37:18.260 moment. We've been very clear we want to see every single illegal immigrant out of the UK, 0.99

00:37:22.020 that is millions of people. Now, that's not quite true because ICE hit a record level of almost 50,000

00:37:26.840 deportations in the month of july and so that means about thousand and something people a day

00:37:32.440 uh 1667 i've written in my script so it's not quite 3000 but nevertheless they're clearly saying

00:37:38.340 that they're flooding the zone with pro-mass deportation rhetoric to try and bury previous

00:37:43.060 instances where they said it was impossible they're also making more policy announcements

00:37:46.240 genric has met with vance and committed to meeting the previous uh nato and defense spending target

00:37:51.800 of 3% of GDP by 2030 and 3.5% by 2035.

00:37:57.640 He says he's already identified

00:37:58.920 £45 billion worth of savings

00:38:01.280 that could be dedicated instead

00:38:03.160 to spending on defence.

00:38:05.920 Some of those savings are going to come

00:38:07.040 from liquidating government departments.

00:38:09.260 So Danny Kruger's already set out

00:38:10.440 his new Restructuring the Government plan,

00:38:13.440 which is incredibly detailed.

00:38:14.200 I went over it on my channel

00:38:15.500 if you want to bore yourself

00:38:16.260 listening to me waffle on for an hour.

00:38:17.600 Basically, the idea is

00:38:18.400 abolish the Constitutional Reform and Governance Act,

00:38:20.380 bring all ministerial departments back under government control,

00:38:23.520 sack a bunch of civil servants, 0.99

00:38:25.360 shrink the quangos, 1.00

00:38:26.640 either bring them back into departments 1.00

00:38:28.160 or liquidate their budgets and abolish them.

00:38:30.260 And then he's now saying that he's identified

00:38:32.560 over 200 million pounds a year

00:38:34.180 spent on what he says are divisive civil service staff networks.

00:38:38.580 Again, I object to the premise

00:38:39.600 that I could ever be unified with these people at any point,

00:38:42.240 but there you go.

00:38:43.220 He named some of them in a Substack post

00:38:45.460 which is attached to this tweet.

00:38:46.880 in 2017 the civil service race forum published a strategy pledging to increase bame representation

00:38:54.100 in the senior civil service and to tackle institutional racism it stated critical

00:38:57.980 race theory was a core element of this project so you know three years before the summer of

00:39:01.640 george floyd they were doing this sort of subversive stuff there's also the home office

00:39:04.980 islamic network which has basically nullified monitoring of islamic terror at prevent which

00:39:09.540 allowed abby harby ali axa rudica barna and all sorts of other reprobates to to evade detection

00:39:14.080 But note that this was under the Conservative government. 0.93

00:39:16.120 Of course, yeah.

00:39:17.580 It's always under the Conservative government.

00:39:19.600 There is.

00:39:21.880 Every time.

00:39:22.480 And Danny Kruger has also said that he's got nothing against Islam,

00:39:25.040 that Nazshah is his best friend, 0.92

00:39:26.340 that he thinks Afghans are the equal inheritors

00:39:28.340 to the Anglo-Saxon kings and queens.

00:39:31.520 So Danny Kruger, again, is a liberal,

00:39:34.360 and he just thinks that the problem is the existence of these bodies

00:39:36.880 which are just artificial imposers of division

00:39:39.180 on an otherwise unified British populace.

00:39:41.960 If you didn't have critical race theory, 0.72

00:39:44.080 in the civil service, then all the black civil servants wouldn't hate white people.

00:39:47.380 And I just, I reject that. 0.76

00:39:48.760 Socio-economic factors, bro.

00:39:50.760 Yeah, yeah, that's why that happens.

00:39:52.100 Socio-economic factors forcing Brixton drill rappers to go out and murder one another at school. 0.99

00:39:58.040 Exactly, that's exactly why black millionaires have the same crime rate 0.95

00:40:03.020 as white guys earning about $36,000 in America. 0.97

00:40:06.180 Socio-economic factors, definitely.

00:40:07.800 Anyway, so he points out the Civil Service employs 767 full-time DEI employees,

00:40:14.800 costing, we taxpayers, £37.7 million a year,

00:40:18.660 and that all 550,000 civil servants go through two hours of mandatory DEI training a year,

00:40:25.560 costing another £36.3 million.

00:40:27.540 So, if reform gets elected tomorrow, I'd be glad to see that scrapped.

00:40:32.140 Let's at least say that.

00:40:33.220 Do I think it goes far enough?

00:40:34.460 No, but this is clearly why they're putting this out there.

00:40:36.580 Can't scrap it without scrapping the Equalities Act. 0.77

00:40:39.080 Which they are going to do.

00:40:40.420 But when Zia Yusuf was interviewed about it,

00:40:42.140 he said that he can keep all of the protections

00:40:43.620 that are in the Equalities Act.

00:40:44.620 And I followed up with Suella Braveman about that, actually.

00:40:45.760 That means that legally,

00:40:46.900 they have to do this training,

00:40:48.600 otherwise they would be in violation

00:40:49.900 of their own new regulation.

00:40:51.240 Well, it won't just be the new regulations.

00:40:52.820 I actually pressed Suella Braveman on this

00:40:54.060 at a conference a couple of months ago.

00:40:55.640 And I said, exactly.

00:40:57.120 Zia Yusuf, when pressed on Newsnight,

00:40:58.540 said that he'll keep all the protections,

00:41:00.420 but he'll just scrap it in name only.

00:41:01.720 And Suella Braveman said,

00:41:03.100 what we're going to do is we're going to default back

00:41:04.660 to things like the Sex Discrimination Act for pay.

00:41:06.800 Okay, fine, whatever. 0.78

00:41:08.520 And the Race Relations Act.

00:41:09.960 And I just put my head in my hands 0.86

00:41:11.040 because the Race Relations Act 0.73

00:41:12.240 was the reason this came about in the first place.

00:41:14.300 The Equality Act is just the Race Relations Act

00:41:17.060 and a bunch of other pieces of legislation

00:41:19.040 bundled together.

00:41:20.100 Exactly.

00:41:20.540 That's all it is.

00:41:21.280 Especially the 2000 update to the Race Relations Act

00:41:23.960 following the McPherson report,

00:41:25.120 which says police officers and public bodies

00:41:26.980 have a statutory obligation

00:41:28.200 to maintain positive race relations.

00:41:30.060 If you keep that on the books,

00:41:31.240 you've got the exact same problem.

00:41:32.400 And they still haven't committed

00:41:33.100 to abolishing the Race Relations Act.

00:41:34.180 One of the things that Rubleau actually got kicked out of reform for, by the way, was going on Harry Cole's show early 2025 and saying we need a great repeal bill, as David Starkey suggested.

00:41:43.520 And when asked which piece of legislation to get rid of, he named the Race Relations Act first.

00:41:47.300 Patriot.

00:41:48.000 Anyway, clearly policy they need to adopt.

00:41:50.460 They haven't done it yet.

00:41:51.400 They've also said they're going to ban foreign nationals from claiming benefits.

00:41:54.520 This is Rob Gemricks.

00:41:56.400 I'm very serious about the economy.

00:41:57.540 I put my glasses on.

00:41:58.700 Moment.

00:41:59.100 And he said that one in six universal credit claimants was not a British or Irish citizen

00:42:03.460 and claimed $55 billion over the last four years.

00:42:06.960 I think it's something like $15.1 billion in the last 18 months.

00:42:10.980 He says the British taxpayer is acting as the welfare state for the world.

00:42:13.800 That's unfair.

00:42:14.520 We all know it.

00:42:15.180 Okay, yeah, true.

00:42:16.580 Bit of a problem, though, when Danny Kruger then turns around and says apply for British

00:42:19.420 citizenship so you don't get your benefits taken away.

00:42:23.080 Not great.

00:42:24.680 I don't understand. 1.00

00:42:25.600 I mean, yes, Restore has some internal contention within it over the issue of FNAT and CivicNAT, but nobody is that retarded. 1.00

00:42:38.640 Like, nobody in the Restore camp will say, well, just become a paper citizen, bro. 1.00

00:42:43.140 Why would you want to encourage that?

00:42:44.400 Yeah.

00:42:45.160 And I can only assume there are, because I've spoken to good people at the top of reform,

00:42:48.980 there are people that as soon as Danny Kruger sits behind a microphone, they just put their head in their hands.

00:42:52.500 but that's also your problem

00:42:55.020 because you celebrated

00:42:55.740 his defection

00:42:56.240 you courted it

00:42:56.960 you allowed him to come over

00:42:57.700 you said that he is based

00:42:58.580 the brain trust of reform

00:42:59.740 restructuring the government

00:43:00.820 and then the moment

00:43:01.900 he runs his mouth

00:43:02.580 about anything about

00:43:03.380 identity

00:43:04.380 or citizenship

00:43:05.620 he just

00:43:06.440 posts so much coal

00:43:08.200 that you could abolish

00:43:08.780 net zero with it

00:43:09.400 I mean

00:43:09.640 if you want to create

00:43:13.220 a hostile environment 0.85

00:43:14.360 and have remigration 1.00

00:43:15.600 you can't have

00:43:17.720 some kind of

00:43:18.260 race relations act

00:43:19.060 sitting there

00:43:19.540 you can't have

00:43:20.720 some kind of

00:43:21.200 equalities act

00:43:21.880 You can't encourage people to claim welfare.

00:43:24.740 Let alone that.

00:43:26.160 Let alone that.

00:43:27.100 But you have to be able to say,

00:43:28.100 actually, I want to hire a British guy. 0.85

00:43:30.180 Sorry, mate. 1.00

00:43:31.860 I'd rather give it to the boy next door 1.00

00:43:34.440 than to the boy from Delhi. 1.00

00:43:36.680 No offence.

00:43:37.760 Right.

00:43:39.180 Even if your faked degree makes you technically more qualified. 0.99

00:43:43.340 Yeah, Indian degrees, okay. 0.99

00:43:45.440 I see the crayon you drew on this.

00:43:48.820 Anyway, so they say that only British citizens

00:43:51.220 will be entitled to benefits only the only people that will be eligible for best benefits are foreign

00:43:56.160 nationals who served in the armed services and also state pensions for people who have paid their

00:44:00.400 way as if the state pension is actually affordable especially when you commit to the triple lock but

00:44:03.880 nevertheless whatever they're also going to restrict pip payments which is going to make

00:44:07.300 max tempers very happy for mental health claims and allow employers to offset a disability and

00:44:12.720 out of work benefits from national insurance and if you've been on out of work benefits for more

00:44:15.960 than a year you're gonna have to go pick up litter or or work in a library or something

00:44:20.720 Also, they have said that they're going to abolish and definitely leave to remain,

00:44:23.940 which is important because as people that are in Reform's policy team,

00:44:27.660 and this is one of the things I have to praise Reform for,

00:44:30.500 since putting James Orr in charge of the policy unit,

00:44:32.700 they've made some fantastic hires like Sam Ashworth-Hayes,

00:44:35.480 who does great stuff on grooming gangs, definitely leave to remain, etc.

00:44:38.000 They're actually assembling a cadre of credible people.

00:44:41.620 Sam Ashworth-Hayes wrote this article in The Telegraph.

00:44:43.960 Unfortunately, it's in The Telegraph, but what are you going to do?

00:44:45.720 And he pointed out that the Boris wave,

00:44:47.640 which can be counted 2.5 million people of the 6 million we've seen in the last six years,

00:44:51.820 has been the largest spike in immigration in over 170 years of recorded data.

00:44:56.400 It is the largest cumulative change in Britain's population,

00:45:00.380 and that which happened between 2021 and 2024 was larger than in the 61 years between 1947 and 2007.

00:45:09.020 And we've also had more immigration than between 1066 and the Second World War.

00:45:13.420 As the Telegraph analysis has shown,

00:45:15.600 many of the skilled worker visas were, not skilled,

00:45:18.280 with more than 40% of businesses sponsoring visas in low-paying industries.

00:45:21.860 And Carl Williams, who now also works for James Orr at Reform,

00:45:26.000 found that 95% of all visas were given to people

00:45:28.960 who take out more in benefits than they contribute in taxes.

00:45:31.700 I mean, the idea that this should not be reversed is insane.

00:45:37.340 Yeah.

00:45:37.800 Regardless of your paper status.

00:45:39.500 Yes.

00:45:39.960 I became a citizen last year.

00:45:42.440 okay congratulations now you're not it's my one one year one good year one bad year that's life

00:45:48.560 yeah even the um former chair of the migration advisory committee has written a number of

00:45:54.540 essays and even included part of it in his book on migration uh what's his name alan manning was

00:46:00.420 that his name um he's written essays on how like the boris wave was just a complete mistake

00:46:06.220 the government took the uh mac's recommendations and just like ate them yeah in 2018 they said

00:46:11.880 do not create a health and social care visa it will just be flooded with dependents and they

00:46:15.840 were just like great idea ball it up chuck it behind you yeah and they were giving out money

00:46:20.260 to hospitals at the pop a pop of like seven seven thousand pounds or something per foreign nurse

00:46:27.460 hired over british nurses so so that just you are just saying only hire british nurses that is a

00:46:34.640 political rather than an economic decision so boris johnson literally purposefully his government

00:46:40.740 stabbed us all in the back there's there's no economic argument to be made for the benefit of

00:46:45.880 it as we see played out here but even at the time the government wasn't acting like there was they 0.91

00:46:50.580 were just like well here's some money to take on foreigners why we just want more foreigners the

00:46:56.680 most twisted irony and i've detailed my horrible experiences with the nhs recently on my twitter

00:47:01.700 is that we cap medical school placements in this country so we have a doctor's shortage and we have

00:47:07.760 thousands of doctors leave every year for the likes of australia and america because they pay

00:47:10.440 better but we cap medical school placements in this country to quote not devalue the profession

00:47:15.560 but we will accept those degrees from the university of the ganges as if they are equivalent

00:47:20.460 despite them being responsible for disproportionate levels of medical malpractice of even the actual

00:47:27.000 offenses against patients and so for some reason we just as you said we're like a grain silo 0.83

00:47:31.460 for foreigners and we'll also i mean the student visas were a big one as well i mean i was at a

00:47:37.160 over the weekend that was a university i won't name where but it felt so we've had liz on before

00:47:44.160 talking about this how some of these like universities that are tucked away in the 0.65

00:47:48.480 countryside or in little towns that nobody's ever heard of will like pack in as many migrants as 0.98

00:47:54.720 possible for the sake of well they just want to keep the doors open right they would they would 0.98

00:47:59.420 have no ability to keep the doors open if it weren't for the incredibly lax immigration and

00:48:04.380 visa policies right so i was at this university supposedly it was a good business school but i

00:48:09.680 got there and bear in mind we're in the summer um summer holiday or whatever but i um i got there

00:48:15.240 and i felt like i was driving through a fake town like it was a little university town and

00:48:21.800 there were no white people no british people whatsoever there was a football pitch next to

00:48:28.940 the university campus where there was a little football match going on and it was all like 1.00

00:48:33.620 nigerians and uh southeast a sorry south asians middle easterners and i realized like oh this is 1.00

00:48:42.460 this is one of those places that we've spoken about before nobody living in the university 1.00

00:48:47.260 houses around the place was english nobody was white it was all just foreigners it felt like

00:48:52.880 if you've ever watched true detective the character rust describes how a town felt like someone's 1.00

00:48:58.060 misremembered recollection of a town it was like it felt like it's backwards it felt like yeah

00:49:02.800 exactly and it felt like and i was going through there and on the drive up it was beautiful

00:49:07.720 countryside you know lovely little hamlets i was passing through and i thought to myself ah i'm in

00:49:13.200 england and i get there it's like this rural little town in the middle of nowhere it's like

00:49:17.140 just been completely occupied because the university has decided they would rather

00:49:20.940 you know keep their doors open selling fake degrees to foreigners uh than maybe take a

00:49:26.320 financial hit yeah it's gross took a wrong turn to ruta pradesh anyway so they calculate the net

00:49:31.960 cost of giving giving ilr to the boris wave all the people that you just mentioned will exceed

00:49:36.120 622.5 billion in real terms until 2085 and part of the reason is the more people that gain

00:49:43.360 citizenship the more people that will claim pensions and that's actually the largest cost

00:49:46.620 pensions in the nhs it's not just current welfare it's just taking away welfare from these people 0.96

00:49:50.540 won't stop them many of them from being here especially if they live in clannish networks 0.97

00:49:54.660 who can pool resources buy houses live tend to a man they'll just stay here exactly and they'll 0.94

00:49:59.500 to stay here until they can claim the unaffordable triple lock pensions which you've already committed

00:50:04.340 to and so there's a there's a piece here that details research conducted by Zia Yusuf James

00:50:10.440 Hall and Amar Johal who's one of the heads of reforms policy and they say in the new report

00:50:16.640 reforms say the cost of NHS care benefits and new infrastructure to cope with the Boris wave and

00:50:22.300 continuing levels of immigration would reach that 622.5 billion figure that is a 20,000 pound

00:50:29.060 liability for every household in the UK. Modify that. What's that for taxpaying households?

00:50:34.240 Because remember, 53.5%, I think, of all households in Britain take out more in tax

00:50:40.840 revenue than they contribute. So that is going to mean everyone in this room, everyone watching,

00:50:44.600 that's a Brit, is going to be paying thousands more just for the welfare of random Boris waivers.

00:50:51.800 Why? Send them home. And so when they've said, okay, we're going to commit to sending them home, 1.00

00:50:56.620 the problem they've got with this red meat policy is they're relying on shabana mahoud's 0.83

00:51:00.980 indefinite leave to remain extensions actually going through ahead of a reformed government

00:51:04.880 especially if because they've lost their lead they might not actually win the next election

00:51:09.840 so this might be a five years time policy and guy dampier who again excellent guy works for

00:51:15.120 prosperity institute um co-produced the documentary for gb news with charlie peters on the grooming

00:51:20.380 gangs he points out that 80 labor mps have already written to andy burnham and andy burnham i think

00:51:25.300 is meeting with all of them tonight for drinks so who knows if he's going to call that election

00:51:28.960 asking that he disregards shabana mahoud's immigration reforms like he's already on a

00:51:34.240 knife sandwich with his own back benches yeah he doesn't he clearly doesn't want to go through this

00:51:37.820 he wants to carpet bomb the countryside with our equitable dispersal of asylum seekers so why are

00:51:42.480 you relying on andy burnham's um upholding shabana mahoud's paper thin ilr uh extensions this this is

00:51:50.660 why it's so important to say

00:51:52.280 citizen revocations for anybody

00:51:54.560 who is claiming benefits. This is why 0.80

00:51:56.540 it's absolutely critical to say that.

00:51:58.720 And it has to be documented in

00:52:00.500 policy, by reform, by restored, by

00:52:02.400 whoever is on the right.

00:52:05.240 Okay, you're claiming 0.96

00:52:06.380 benefits, you're a dual national, 1.00

00:52:08.460 goodbye. And reform haven't proposed that yet.

00:52:10.440 And this is a huge weakness.

00:52:12.600 Yep, exactly. They have to do it.

00:52:15.020 Instead, as I mentioned earlier, Danny 0.93

00:52:16.420 Kruger encourages people to claim British

00:52:18.240 citizenship to get their benefits, the NHS.

00:52:20.240 pensions etc they just they just can't afford that whereas um restore britain if we uh if you can go

00:52:25.460 to page 31 actually it's 33 on the uh if you click that little box um there is a footnote down there

00:52:32.640 and they say that at restore britain we believe that indefinitely to remain is a serious problem

00:52:38.680 however it's just one stage on a conveyor belt that leads somewhere worse full citizenship status

00:52:42.420 the fact that many boris wave immigrants may be at the end of this decade uh recklessly showered 0.58

00:52:46.580 citizenship papers cannot be accepted as a fait accompli indefinitely if to remain in its present 0.95

00:52:50.760 form does untold damage to the british people that problem must be resolved but to zone in on

00:52:54.920 terms of uh indefinite residency as reform is done is short-sighted citizenship has to be our focus

00:52:59.460 and it's paired as we said in your segment with the fact that they're willing to strip citizenship

00:53:03.440 from net tax detriments reform should be doing the same they should be doing it for the entire

00:53:07.480 boris wave they weren't wanted it was uh against the democratic wishes of the public and so they

00:53:11.840 should just go home and someone who leans in that direction i think um maybe he's just following

00:53:17.200 incentives maybe it's sincere is zia yusuf and zia yusuf has come out and lifted another policy

00:53:22.200 straight from restore britain's mass deportations document so clearly he's paying a lot of attention

00:53:26.400 he wants to pass the quote deliveroo law which would imprison ceos and directors of corporations

00:53:31.760 like deliveroo uber just eats who use illegal migrant labor and then find them 10 of their

00:53:36.980 global revenue great i mean inarguably 100 yeah absolutely 100 he also says that he's going to

00:53:45.020 launch a turkish barber's tip line for members of the public to report illegal migrants and illicit

00:53:48.500 businesses and then the incentive to actually crack down on this by the local authorities or

00:53:51.900 the national crime agency trading standards is by rewarding them with the share of the fines

00:53:56.120 generated and proceeds seized yeah again great this is what harrison wrote in the mass deportations

00:54:01.520 So I can get money for dobbing in obvious criminal fronts in my high street?

00:54:06.320 I'm doing my part.

00:54:07.240 Yeah, there you go.

00:54:08.180 I mean, Zia needs you.

00:54:11.400 Restore Britain's strongest soldier, Zia Yusuf? 0.97

00:54:14.300 But look, you know, I'm not going to complain at this, 0.97

00:54:17.240 but I'll build to my conclusion in a moment.

00:54:19.260 He also proposed, and this is something that Nigel Farage has put on his substack,

00:54:22.560 or, you know, signed off for whoever wrote it.

00:54:25.280 He actually writes it.

00:54:26.880 Yeah, whatever.

00:54:27.960 At least he's putting his name to it, meaning that he probably endorses it, though.

00:54:30.500 you know he might call you a fascist the next day so who knows it's quoting your own substance it's

00:54:35.320 it's it's depressing but whatever um he starts off this this article by listing a series of

00:54:40.140 high-profile rapes murders and terror cells created by illegal migrants he also uh recreates

00:54:45.080 the similar graphic that he did during the brexit campaign of the long lines of foreigners breaking

00:54:50.100 into europe he says about the invasion of suta which we covered last time for your segment harry

00:54:54.080 when this flashpoint has faded from memory the invasion of suta specifically thousands will be

00:54:58.740 still making the journey across the mediterranean across europe to calais intent on reaching our

00:55:02.520 shores just because the visuals are less striking doesn't make the effect less real this is nothing

00:55:07.060 less than an invasion of europe and an invasion of britain again this is the kind of rhetoric

00:55:10.760 people want to hear whether or not they trust you to execute it is a different question and this is

00:55:15.280 the sort of conclusion i'm building to but what they're promising to do is to deploy the royal

00:55:19.020 navy in the channel to intercept the dinghies empty them and then ferry their occupants back

00:55:22.600 to france presuming that was their nation of origin because if you don't provide papers then

00:55:26.500 okay you must be from france then and there were people that were saying okay well the french

00:55:31.060 won't cooperate i mean first of all just to address farad's rhetoric um purely hypothetically

00:55:37.100 if this were an invasion fleet why would you intercept it and not sink it but whatever um

00:55:42.800 but he says okay you know people will criticize them saying will the french actually help you

00:55:47.820 out with this and he points out that the next government might be headed up by marine le pen

00:55:51.340 now um and jordan bardella with national rally and if you wanted to gauge whether or not national

00:55:56.000 rally would cooperate with reform uh jordan bardello is actually speaking at reform's

00:55:59.520 conference so there's they're clearly laying the groundwork for cooperation with the friends to

00:56:03.500 solve the illegal migrant issue and again danny kruger doing his jekyll and hyde routine has now 0.95

00:56:09.740 said he's going to ban commonwealth voting i know so so good yes now presumably if they all get 0.69

00:56:16.560 british citizenship they can just vote and i don't think their voting patterns are going to change

00:56:20.200 because in here he says that he also wants to ban um postal voting which don't have legitimate

00:56:26.600 uh reasons like you're a veteran he wants to ban family voting which is of course the canard they

00:56:31.540 blamed for matt goodwin's loss in gorton and denton otherwise rather than him just sounding 0.85

00:56:34.700 like alan partridge and being generally unlikable um the premise is what that all those muslim women

00:56:40.320 if they were british citizens and weren't being coerced by their husbands would have voted for 0.79

00:56:44.100 reform instead i mean that's not i'm again totally for abolishing commonwealth voting

00:56:48.320 apparently there's like 800,000 to a million Indians

00:56:50.840 currently in the country that can be eligible

00:56:53.020 for voting while they're not British citizens 1.00

00:56:54.880 completely demented 1.00

00:56:55.860 but if you just give them citizenship 0.97

00:56:59.160 you won't be against it

00:57:00.180 not just that

00:57:01.380 if you are going to allow

00:57:05.200 any immigration 0.95

00:57:06.120 only people of the third generation 1.00

00:57:09.520 should have any 1.00

00:57:11.180 political rights including the right to vote

00:57:13.180 the Aquinas solution

00:57:14.300 the Aquinas solution

00:57:15.200 exactly

00:57:16.680 Exactly. You have to have committed down three generations to a nation to be actually fully adopted into the tribe.

00:57:26.500 Yep.

00:57:28.020 I shouldn't be allowed to vote. Full stop. This is obscene.

00:57:32.200 This is why we keep you on, Firas.

00:57:34.720 Thanks.

00:57:36.340 You're Ossia Yusuf.

00:57:37.580 but this is like okay just showed up from the commonwealth here's my vote yeah you know oh

00:57:49.260 sure they behave the exact same way as they do in uter pradesh i wonder how we can change this

00:57:52.920 you can't like you just you genuinely can't also who did this guy vote oh the guy giving him money

00:57:56.660 okay yeah quite oh the guy that's importing more of his kin and countrymen not the party that says

00:58:00.440 i want to restrict entry from that country and also kruger then turns around and says okay well

00:58:05.100 we want all public documents, all electronic materials to be in English.

00:58:08.800 Okay, obviously, you know, we're in Britain,

00:58:10.860 other than if you're, you know, Welsh or Scottish and it's in Gaelic or Welsh, right?

00:58:15.060 But then he goes on Times Radio, and again, Danny Kruger, Jekyll and Hyde.

00:58:18.620 You know, you can't say, oh, we're base now,

00:58:20.380 and then have Danny Kruger do your interviews.

00:58:22.160 He said, and I'm not joking, quote,

00:58:25.220 but yes, if the council is issuing non-party political information

00:58:28.560 to explain any public service, then I understand the value of that.

00:58:31.840 What we're trying to ban here is party political campaigning in foreign languages.

00:58:34.660 so he still wants the council to do leaflets that tell you how to claim benefits in a foreign

00:58:39.660 language it's just the election materials he's annoyed with what the what look i'm going to

00:58:47.860 conclude here right the problem with reform and this is going to again friends in reform who i

00:58:54.040 like or even senior positions right and they're trying their best the problem with reform is not

00:58:58.820 that your policies are necessarily poor okay but there's some problems with them but most of the

00:59:04.480 policies I listed here are policies that I think are unalloyed goods, and I would be happy if they

00:59:08.520 passed. The problem you have is because of your personnel, which has caused you to slump in the

00:59:13.520 polls, you have a credibility deficit, and people don't trust them to execute them. Like, Zia Yusuf

00:59:18.560 can promise mass deportations till the cows come home, but if Danny Kruger is in charge of it,

00:59:22.060 it's not going to happen. James Orr can turn around and say that Britain should, of course,

00:59:27.360 continue to be majority English, Scottish, Welsh, and Irish, as he did to Stephen Edgington before 1.00

00:59:30.980 he joined reform but if layla cunningham is walking around the capital doing like arsehole

00:59:36.400 puckering cringe hype edits and asking bagel shops how many bagels do you produce and they say 4 000 1.00

00:59:42.180 when there's two employees and she actually takes it seriously and it's embarrassing

00:59:45.600 if you've got those people also in the party as your front men how are we meant to trust you to

00:59:49.800 execute this vision and this is a problem that reform are now in a race against the clock with

00:59:53.280 because if they think an early election is going to happen late this year early next year you've

00:59:56.800 got to sort out your personnel appointments quick so i guess we'll see who they end up appointing

01:00:00.720 as their spokespeople at the conference,

01:00:02.720 but that's their main problem.

01:00:04.360 It's not policy, it's personnel.

01:00:07.360 Yep.

01:00:08.260 We should put whichever Zoomer PA

01:00:10.560 wrote that tweet on Danny Kruger's account,

01:00:14.680 put him in charge of it instead.

01:00:16.060 Yeah, agreed.

01:00:16.540 Most of the Zoomer staff that I've met at Reform

01:00:19.220 are very good guys as well, I have to say that.

01:00:22.260 We've got one Rumble Rant.

01:00:24.160 That's a random name.

01:00:25.720 To be fair to the University of Ganges alums,

01:00:28.300 their understanding of diseases must be top-notch

01:00:30.260 considering their university is at the heart of noble's garden quite yeah well there's there's

01:00:34.360 one benefit can i have the mouse back please yes sorry sir there you go thank you very much

01:00:37.860 so i'm going to be taking a look into the black mirror and looking at the dark reflection that

01:00:44.180 is navara media and some of the work that they put out and addressing a trap that i find quite

01:00:50.400 a lot of the modern globalist left falls into that being the supposed existence of this 0.64

01:00:57.280 multi-racial working class that they love to appeal to in their eternal fight against

01:01:02.760 neoliberalism. Now the fight against neoliberalism, the banks, corruption in the financial sector,

01:01:07.840 pushing a lot of the policies that we all disagree with, I don't disagree with, but the 1.00

01:01:11.920 idea that they can appeal to this phantasm of the multicultural working class in doing so 0.51

01:01:19.620 is one contradictory because it was bankers, neoliberals and other such people who were the

01:01:25.780 ones who made it all multicultural in the first place, and two, just frankly doesn't hold up to

01:01:31.000 scrutiny. If you want to see something else that doesn't hold up to scrutiny, we're going to be

01:01:35.240 taking a look at the Lindsay Clancy defence and the support that she has been receiving from 0.93

01:01:42.540 TikTok insane women later on at three o'clock British time in just under an hour from when 0.73

01:01:48.600 we're recording this right now. It's going to be available as a roundtable to subscribers on the

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01:01:57.900 from as little as five pounds per month and it'll give you access not only to this but everything

01:02:02.320 else that we have on the website which is frankly a bargain anyway so i have addressed some of the

01:02:08.040 stuff that's been going on with navara media recently including their recent taste of woke

01:02:12.860 2.0 this was a video i put out on the daily channel which i've basically colonized in the

01:02:17.420 past few weeks and this was in response to the Jason Arday news story following Jason Arday's

01:02:23.860 decision to unalive himself and Navara Media whipping themselves, racking themselves over the

01:02:29.860 coals for their part or perceived part in doing that. You had a video from Aaron Bastani who

01:02:35.520 frankly is not a bad guy that I dislike, kind of prostrating for his audience after Jason Arday's

01:02:42.860 unfortunate end led to the audience saying oh you joined in on the witch hunt you decided to be

01:02:49.920 journalists and criticized him over his plagiarism his made-up backstory his taking advantage of the

01:02:57.080 DEI system and then Aaron Bastani said I'm very very sorry about this and then the gentleman in

01:03:02.780 the middle of that thumbnail who was one of the other Navara alum who were talking about this

01:03:08.280 actually cried, actually cried on camera in his apology for it. Now, you can criticise

01:03:14.900 the angle that the Jason Arday story took, particularly that being working off of Nathan

01:03:22.740 Kofnes rather than the original journalist with the, what was it, Times Education supplement,

01:03:29.220 who was the one who originally tried to break the story last year, who Jason Arday got arrested or

01:03:34.340 threatened with arrest from the police instead especially seeing as Nathan Coughness is not

01:03:38.880 somebody that I particularly trust I think he has his own agenda that he's trying to push

01:03:43.000 but Jason Arday still was in the wrong the only person who made the decision to unalive him

01:03:47.920 was him himself and so this was audience backfire and they are still raking themselves over the

01:03:55.600 coals for this this was a post from just a week or two ago where they just said oh you shouldn't

01:04:02.080 have you shouldn't have covered the story or you should have taken an anti-racist view of the story

01:04:07.160 but really you shouldn't have taken the story so this is like an almost old-fashioned woke

01:04:12.320 cancellation where they've done it to themselves they decided to follow a story that was important

01:04:17.820 uh that was relevant to the cultural situation that we find ourselves in the audience said no

01:04:23.420 we don't like that and presumably ash sarkar and other members of their own internal staff pushed

01:04:28.120 pack as well and aaron and some of the other members decided to backtrack on this and apologize

01:04:33.720 so this is actually uh very 2020 coded in my mind and they are still kind of on the apology tour

01:04:40.000 pushing a lot of the woke or woke 2.0 you could say talking points with this video from this

01:04:47.200 handsome chappy now there is the face of someone you can trust he looks like uh true geordie on

01:04:53.200 HRT does a little bit yes Jonas Patrick Marvin in this video where Ash Sarkar interviews him

01:04:59.720 titled multiculturalism will save the working class if you're wondering who this chap is he

01:05:06.120 is the author of a recent book called the breaking of the English working class what does English

01:05:11.600 mean in your mind where you can see the description says it's retelling the story of the working class

01:05:16.700 over the last 40 years from Thatcher's war against the unions to new labor neoliberalism he shows how

01:05:22.580 power and capital have combined to shatter

01:05:24.700 a radical identity

01:05:26.320 into many parts. White, male, northern,

01:05:28.640 a homeowner, immigrant, unemployed, 1.00

01:05:30.580 disabled. Now, a few of those are 1.00

01:05:32.600 not like the others, and it's

01:05:34.620 then, the fragments are then set

01:05:36.660 in conflict against each other, so you can see

01:05:38.480 this kind of

01:05:39.540 globalist attitude that

01:05:42.500 he's taking to it. When I

01:05:44.460 think of, well,

01:05:46.780 working class, we often

01:05:48.640 add the modifier white, which is

01:05:50.260 now that I'm thinking about it, sort of programmed 0.98

01:05:52.460 into us but um when i think about working class i i don't think brown's and bio leninism fondly 0.66

01:05:58.140 enough well here's just a few of the inherent contradictions of this idea of the multi-racial

01:06:02.920 working class which in in the next um clip i'm going to be showing you uh kind of what he's

01:06:08.080 talking about here um is that it makes no sense in its own terms the british class system is the

01:06:15.220 class system which created a working class it is a holdover from the industrial revolution

01:06:21.360 in many ways doesn't really apply anymore because of the heavily service-based economy that we find

01:06:27.580 ourselves in. Also, other cultures around the world do not have that same history and class-based

01:06:34.860 conflict that we have. For instance, if you're talking about people coming over from India,

01:06:39.980 can you say that the caste system is analogous to our class system? Where do a desi and a working 0.51

01:06:47.360 class man overlap in their cultural history and sympathy for one another that's just one of the

01:06:53.380 major issues to what you find is that class really is only a salient issue within ethnic groups in

01:07:00.560 homogeneous society yes i remember being told by a german one time that lebanese christian taxi

01:07:07.780 drivers and lebanese muslim taxi drivers have more in common with each other than they do with the

01:07:14.380 rich Lebanese politicians

01:07:16.420 of their respective sects.

01:07:20.700 I can't think of a sense.

01:07:21.680 How did that go over? 1.00

01:07:22.880 It was the dumbest thing 1.00

01:07:24.320 I've ever heard in my life. 0.99

01:07:26.860 From a smart person, 0.99

01:07:28.840 it was one of the dumbest things 0.99

01:07:29.960 I've heard in my life. 0.99

01:07:31.200 This is that kind of like...

01:07:32.860 This isn't how it works.

01:07:33.980 This isn't how any of this works.

01:07:35.740 Group identity is real

01:07:37.340 and it is completely different

01:07:38.500 to class identity.

01:07:39.280 What's that quote? 1.00

01:07:40.320 It's the something so stupid 1.00

01:07:42.060 only an intellectual could believe it. 1.00

01:07:43.940 Yes.

01:07:44.380 And here's the last problem, which is if you're going to go with the kind of class warfare look at neoliberalism and post-war state capitalism, you can use whatever term for it, the system of globalism that we currently live under.

01:07:59.700 I absolutely believe that there has been an attack on the working class through the destruction of industry, through asset price inflation, particularly with real estate and housing.

01:08:10.580 Through the destruction of family.

01:08:11.720 Yeah, through the destruction of family, through the introduction of people like, of things like credit cards, allowing people to get what they want right now without realising necessarily that it's going to indebt them in the future and reduce their ability to spend on things that are important to them.

01:08:26.000 Carpet bombing high streets with betting shops.

01:08:27.460 Yes, but one of the most major and most obvious attacks against the working class was mass immigration in the first place, diluting union power, diluting the working man's ability to bargain for a proper wage, diluting solidarity within the working class.

01:08:45.040 so the whole thing makes absolutely no sense you say we are going to fight against the oligarchs

01:08:51.500 that imposed this system on us how are we going to do that by folding ourselves directly into that

01:08:57.040 system that they've screwed us over with in the first place you have the politics of goldman

01:09:00.960 sacks like so there was there was an internal communications uh amazon that essentially said

01:09:05.680 our workers are unionizing in the factory so we need to increase the diversity in order to prevent

01:09:09.880 them from unionizing because if they have a fractured identity everybody knows that this

01:09:13.080 is how it works and then ironically what ends up happening is they've done so much diversity that

01:09:16.460 now there is complete unity because they're all indian and they're all hiring their cousins

01:09:19.900 so turns out that actually uh these uh immigrant groups that you'd like to graft into your 0.90

01:09:24.660 wholesome chungus working-class coalition are really tribal and they don't like white people

01:09:28.560 very much and this is why the the parallel conversation is currently happening on the right 0.53

01:09:32.240 which is we can get to uh post-racial economics-based uh working-class multiracial populism

01:09:40.160 no not going to happen because every time that you hear okay we'll set the culture war to one

01:09:44.640 side we'll set immigration identity to one side and we'll focus on health care and infrastructure

01:09:47.840 and affordability what that implies is we have to give up on demographic questions we have to

01:09:52.800 give up on drag queen story we have to give up on wanting our own religion and culture practiced in

01:09:58.140 our own country and sorry i'm just not willing to compartmentalize that yeah i mean this is this is

01:10:02.360 a trap that both sides fall into on on the populist side it's well they're here anyway

01:10:07.000 they all hate the same people that we do let's team up to fight them and it's like okay so

01:10:12.100 they've imposed them on us so let's let's team up with them and beat them and and then what i mean

01:10:18.000 you've teamed up with them are they just going to go like okay now i'm going to go home thanks

01:10:22.100 buddy we beat the bankers i'm going back to the ganges and that thank you very much back off to 0.99

01:10:27.440 the mountains of afghanistan for me no if you can't beat them join them is very stupid advice 0.96

01:10:32.740 yeah point a point two this point b this used to be very deeply understood by the left which is why 0.97

01:10:39.720 in the united states they're now canceling uh cesar chavez the uh mexican originally labor

01:10:46.980 organizer for farm workers who was rabidly anti-mexican immigrant because he understood

01:10:53.840 clearly that the bigger the labor supply the weaker labor is in the face of capital so even

01:11:00.040 on any basic marxist analysis this doesn't make any freaking sense and the idea that people are

01:11:05.800 just going to completely erase their historic identities because i don't like goldman sachs 0.67

01:11:10.900 how how long lived is that going to be well these people have clearly been entirely mind raped and

01:11:17.340 for an example of that let's take a look at one of the clips from this i apologize for what you're

01:11:23.120 about to see folks the world and the place that i live i have people from all over the world in

01:11:28.440 the place that i live and it's awesome even though we go through all sorts of adversity as a community

01:11:33.880 like we're basically abandoned and sectioned off by the state um we are you know constantly

01:11:39.600 subject to forms of consultation by the state and never go anywhere uh we have an oil refinery at

01:11:45.300 the bottom of the road as well which is uh both polluting the area but also means that we live

01:11:50.440 in a blast zone even though all sorts of horrible stuff right that's not even talking about the kind

01:11:54.860 of particulars and nitty-gritty of class.

01:11:57.340 But there's an amazing conviviality where I live.

01:12:01.040 This is in Stoke-on-Trent, a place where it's constantly labeled

01:12:02.980 as a white working class, right?

01:12:04.660 There's an amazing conviviality.

01:12:06.400 And by that, what do you mean?

01:12:07.540 I mean, people from all over the world live together in one place,

01:12:11.160 and it works, and it's good fun.

01:12:13.440 And people will go down to John's Bar,

01:12:15.380 which is a great West African Caribbean bar on a Friday night

01:12:18.120 after payday, and you have the time of your life, right?

01:12:20.820 And for me, that's something to be celebrated and to be cherished.

01:12:23.680 And I think for the left, it's really important to me that we take the kind of front foot on this, because we live in a moment where through questions of climate change, through questions of kind of war between different countries, migration threads through all of the major political questions of our moment, and it's becoming the animus of the right.

01:12:46.860 It's been the animus of the right for the last 40 to 50 years, right? Enoch Powell, it's all about numbers. We have to get the numbers down, right?

01:12:53.300 That kind of thread has existed through British politics

01:12:55.620 through our lifetimes and before.

01:12:57.720 But for me, I often think about David Starkey.

01:13:04.240 And you have this in your book.

01:13:05.360 You talk about this.

01:13:06.020 It's very central to your argument about the white working class. 0.99

01:13:09.300 The whites have become black. 0.87

01:13:11.440 And what is my response to that? 1.00

01:13:13.720 That's a good thing.

01:13:14.760 That's an example of a kind of cultural intermingling

01:13:17.740 that we should celebrate. 1.00

01:13:18.980 All right, piss off and live in Africa then. 1.00

01:13:20.740 No, no, because it's not a functioning civilization. 0.99

01:13:23.300 I'm sorry, that bit at the end is really what, like, more than anything else, shocked me the first time that I watched that little video, because you are celebrating the destruction of the traditional cultural practices of the actual white working class, and saying that you are defending them at the same time. 0.78

01:13:43.080 when really all that's happened is you have been mind raped by wokeness and you do not see that

01:13:50.600 you are celebrating the destruction of the people that you claim to be fighting on behalf of you are 0.99

01:13:55.640 in essence a retard that's what it comes down to you're a creature of the regime you're an 0.99

01:14:01.500 apologist for colonialism by your own admission for the depreciation of labor bargaining power 0.96

01:14:07.240 by international capital but also he made one big mistake which is he says he's from stoke

01:14:12.900 he lives in stoke and he's using stoke as the primary example uh of the kind of success stories

01:14:20.080 that he's talking about the mistake being through most of my life i have lived near stoke i'm sorry

01:14:26.760 spent many i've spent many days there i have visited plenty of times and i can say from my own

01:14:34.540 personal experience being near there and visiting there quite recently uh that's bollocks that's

01:14:41.240 absolute bollocks, mate. You are chatting out of your arse if you want to describe Stoke as a 0.99

01:14:47.940 multicultural success story. For one, shockingly, because Stoke would never have been the nicest 1.00

01:14:54.840 place in the first place, Stoke is actually still more white as of the 2021 census than most of the 0.99

01:15:02.600 rest of the country it is 83.5 percent white which was a decrease from 88.6 in 2011 but it's still

01:15:11.160 more white than most of the rest of the country also those who are of of non-english or british

01:15:19.460 or white backgrounds they poles uh no they are mainly asian south asian but but they are in

01:15:27.860 highly segregated areas as always happens they also have grooming gangs in stoke is well yes

01:15:34.980 we'll get get onto that uh it says in this article while white people remain the majority in all but

01:15:40.200 two of the city's 33 middle level super output areas what a mouthful that is which are statistical

01:15:45.580 divisions with roughly equal populations residents who define themselves as white makeup 44.7 of the 0.79

01:15:52.120 population in Florence and 43.4% in Hanley and Etruria. Hanley and Etruria being the town centre

01:15:59.920 as ever with most places the town centre has gone to complete hell because of the fact that it has 1.00

01:16:05.640 been taken over by primarily Pakistanis and other South Asians. Stoke-on-Trent's Asian and British 1.00

01:16:12.900 population went up from 18,000 to 25,000 since 2011, and they mainly exist in Florence, mentioned

01:16:23.360 before, where they are 43.7%, Hanlien and Etruria, 41.4%, Tunstall, 31%, and Cobridge and Central

01:16:32.820 Forest, 28.6%. Here you can see the map, obviously massively segregated. Here's where all the Asians

01:16:40.740 live and here's where all the whites live it's like they don't actually overlap with one another 0.99

01:16:47.000 because nobody asked for this and nobody wanted to live next to one another actually because it 0.77

01:16:52.320 leads to horrible things like obviously grooming gangs as you mentioned because it turns out that

01:16:57.760 working class solidarity doesn't actually count for much and there's a lot of crime in stoke-on-trent 0.86

01:17:03.840 even despite the fact that it's still mostly white it is actually still one of the most violent cities 0.97

01:17:09.560 in the entire country. Stoke-on-Trent is the most dangerous city in Staffordshire. It's also the 0.99

01:17:15.660 most diverse place in Staffordshire. The overall crime rate in Stoke-on-Trent on 2026 is 104 crimes

01:17:22.660 per 1,000 people. This compares poorly to Staffordshire's overall crime rate, coming in at

01:17:26.960 50% higher than the Staffordshire rate. For England, Wales, and Northern Ireland as a whole,

01:17:31.800 Stoke-on-Trent is among the top five most dangerous cities. This is a multicultural 1.00

01:17:38.680 working class success story because you can go to a west caribbean bar and have a good time on a

01:17:45.100 friday night after payday this really this is really starting to um like work out well in

01:17:50.720 statistics we've got more i've got more quick thing if that's the criteria for why a place is

01:17:54.900 good is his ability to access a caribbean bar okay that's your preference fine if we're just

01:18:00.400 going to get a war of preferences my preference is to be far away from all those people as possible 0.91

01:18:05.060 i want to go to the cotswolds and i want to be purely english pensioners running little cottage

01:18:08.680 shops and things like that okay so if i want that and you want that then it really is just a

01:18:13.920 competition between preferences and it comes down to who has more people who agrees with them and

01:18:19.120 you're going to be hard pressed if you feel that you're down the rear guard action for insisting

01:18:22.480 multiculturalism is good because you can go to an african bar you're going to be hard pressed to

01:18:25.240 argue that the majority of the white working class the working class british people want to go to an

01:18:30.520 African bar versus feel that they live in a familiar and safe neighbourhood.

01:18:34.840 And so you, and just a demographic and democratic game, 0.96

01:18:39.020 you're going to lose this battle, my friend.

01:18:40.780 Exactly.

01:18:41.500 And again, I've got more.

01:18:42.820 Stoke-on-Trent has a crime rate that is 118% higher than the national average.

01:18:47.980 In the postcode area, violent crimes,

01:18:51.400 I think we can all hopefully agree the worst crimes alongside sexual crimes,

01:18:56.760 account for almost 40% of all recorded offences.

01:19:00.520 that's bad that's bad not sounding too much like a success story to me cancelling my holiday with

01:19:05.600 12 000 offenses in 2021 sexual and violent crimes will make up the most uh the majority of crimes

01:19:12.640 in stoke-on-trent with a crime rate of 45 this is 116 percent more offenses than the almost 6 000

01:19:19.160 reported in 2020 so it's going up in proportion to diversity it might look that way it might look

01:19:25.420 But let's be fair, I've not broken it down yet.

01:19:28.100 Okay, so obviously Stoke is a massive s-hole,

01:19:31.700 but in fairness, it's been a massive s-hole for a while. 0.97

01:19:35.460 Maybe this is just a massive uptake in native white British crimes going on. 0.91

01:19:41.060 So how do I check that?

01:19:42.920 Well, I suppose I don't have an ethnic breakdown of it,

01:19:45.260 so the next best thing to do is to find out

01:19:46.860 where are all of these crimes being committed in Stoke.

01:19:49.660 And if we just quickly refer back to the map, 0.80

01:19:54.360 so we can see here that's where all of the foreigners are and as i mentioned uh it's mainly

01:20:00.100 the town center hanley and etruria where all of the asians live and florence and tunstall so

01:20:06.600 happily in 2023 there was an article written about this by the stoke sentinel what do they

01:20:12.040 have to say the worst neighborhoods and stoke-on-trent for crime have been revealed

01:20:16.280 stoke-on-trent live investigation shows that the residents in hanley and etruria are the most likely

01:20:23.080 to fall victim to criminals a total of 4531 separate offenses were recorded between april

01:20:29.900 2022 and april 2023 with 543 offenses for every 1000 residents more than 50 percent of them it

01:20:41.440 means the equivalent of one crime being committed in stoke town center hanley every 116 minutes

01:20:50.280 less than every two hours someone is probably being mugged or robbed or burgled the neighborhood

01:20:57.300 all uh shockingly violence and sexual offenses are the biggest problem there with 1 469 crimes

01:21:04.500 of that nature in the last year that being 2022 to 2023 just a borough full of rapists yes and

01:21:11.160 asians make your own conclusion uh the neighborhood also suffered from the highest rates of drug crime

01:21:17.400 weapons possession offenses criminal damage arson robbery and theft in staffordshire sadly shoppers

01:21:24.180 in hanley weren't surprised by the eye-opening statistics margaret adams told the uh stoke on

01:21:29.940 trent live it doesn't surprise me i've heard there have been issues with crime here for a while

01:21:33.360 there just needs to be put more police here especially at night and alan johnson said

01:21:36.740 it's definitely got worse over recent years wonder why you always hear in the news about

01:21:41.220 something that's happened in the city center we just need more police on patrol or maybe you need

01:21:45.640 less of certain people here and you can see here's the uh every stoke on trent neighborhood

01:21:50.280 ranked from most dangerous to safest also can use it as a proxy for how diverse these particular

01:21:56.520 neighbor neighborhoods are trentum east and other ones down the bottom they're not being

01:22:01.520 particularly diverse which might be why the success story that um that mr jonas was talking

01:22:08.040 about earlier is leading to current projections for stoke on trent north and other areas being

01:22:13.940 that they are going to have a reform wipe out

01:22:16.140 at the next general election.

01:22:18.120 So, this is how well they've 1.00

01:22:20.060 responded to this multicultural

01:22:21.980 working class success story

01:22:24.120 standing in solidarity with

01:22:26.140 one another in the working class 1.00

01:22:28.180 saying, can we get these foreigners out 1.00

01:22:30.160 please? 1.00

01:22:32.380 Yeah, I mean

01:22:33.100 damning.

01:22:35.600 Absolutely damning. 0.99

01:22:37.460 Got a few

01:22:38.940 rumble rants.

01:22:40.220 Rumble rants, one at the top there that I cannot

01:22:42.500 read from random name but let you know that that is quite amusing hapsification what he has one of

01:22:47.840 those ali g mle accents just like gary economics yeah weird given that he says he lives in stoke

01:22:53.320 i don't know if he's from stoke originally that's not a stoke accent he didn't say duck once um

01:22:59.260 there has to be he even said book but he didn't pronounce it book so yeah he's definitely just

01:23:03.840 like skin-suiting stokies there has to be a category of these types of white lefty brits 0.55

01:23:08.740 look guys, is white like 0.72

01:23:10.640 yous and cares about the foreigners 0.98

01:23:12.380 and bars. It's the same with the 0.92

01:23:14.600 Australian guys with the mullet and the tattoos 1.00

01:23:16.480 that were

01:23:18.580 chiefly concerned about racism. 0.92

01:23:20.880 Face Tape says the whites have become 0.96

01:23:22.480 black, so what? The gardens have become Jewish, 1.00

01:23:24.920 so what? The copts have become 1.00

01:23:26.500 Arab, so what? Excellent 1.00

01:23:28.480 point, I guess we're all just in the melting pot

01:23:30.620 now. Logan Pine,

01:23:32.360 Firaz, what are you talking about? Chavez wanted the

01:23:34.580 southwest to be part of Mexico again and was

01:23:36.520 massively anti-white. 0.82

01:23:37.720 oh no that's fair oh yeah that is also anti more mexicans coming in and competing with him for

01:23:43.340 wages i mean there's no contradiction between the two uh he he was a nationalist for his own people 0.65

01:23:49.640 and decided actually i have it very good here i don't want more of more that is true it's one of

01:23:54.860 the reasons they don't want to celebrate chavez so much anymore because of the fact he was anti

01:23:59.080 immigration even of his own people he was like listen i i've got the good mexicans around me 0.99

01:24:04.400 we don't want any more of those stinky mexicans blm founders lived in gated communities 0.98

01:24:09.280 it's true that's true exactly it's the same pattern there's no contradiction between the 1.00

01:24:14.240 two whatsoever anyway let's get on with the video comments oh that's nice

01:24:21.760 Where is this?

01:24:32.760 Is it Whitby?

01:24:34.760 Uh, looks like, yeah, Whitby.

01:24:37.760 I need to visit Whitby, one of my very close friends.

01:24:40.760 And I'm very jealous.

01:24:42.760 everybody i know who's been to whitby or lives in whitby just goes on about what an absolutely

01:24:54.860 gorgeous town it is and how you need to visit so it is just about as north or east as you can get

01:25:00.120 no no no something that deeply entertains me is seeing media accidentally advocate or promote

01:25:05.000 for something they never would intentionally for example spoilers for warhammer 40 000 rogue trader

01:25:09.080 if you wanted to play it. There are a few groups

01:25:11.120 that sound nice and reasonable, such as the Foreman clan

01:25:13.080 on Dargonus, your capital world, or the Infernus

01:25:15.320 Guild in your void ship. They come across as

01:25:17.200 hard-working, devoted to the point of zealotry, and

01:25:19.100 are welcoming to new people. It turns out that

01:25:21.100 they're gene-stealer cults, and you have to wipe them out because

01:25:23.020 they're dangerous aliens who subvert and spread.

01:25:25.180 What this means is that suppressing the workers and 0.77

01:25:27.020 strike-breaking is not only justified, but a moral

01:25:29.060 duty. Is that an allegory?

01:25:31.000 Who's to say?

01:25:32.720 Counterpoint, these people don't work.

01:25:34.500 Good point. Good point. Moving on.

01:25:39.080 another sinister thing about the ukrainians integrating women into their military at scale

01:25:45.320 is that they'll soon start subjecting women to conscription as well which means that 0.99

01:25:50.440 they will be getting deported from the eu just like their men folk i see dark things ahead for 0.53

01:25:56.740 the ukrainian people their women are likely going to be bullied into marrying foreigners in their 0.93

01:26:01.080 host countries simply to avoid being fed into the meat grinder dark times yeah it's uh not looking 0.96

01:26:09.200 great it's pretty evil you could say hello lotus eaters this is my final video comments uh from my

01:26:18.260 final day of freedom before tomorrow on wednesday i'm watching this uh enjoying your content today

01:26:24.580 as my final day of freedom i will be sentenced to likely two years in prison for tweets because

01:26:30.860 apparently the uk government sees me as a bigger threat than a violent criminal you have my

01:26:37.040 permission to tell my story i've sent all the details to pete and godspeed gentlemen it's been

01:26:42.620 a pleasure well right well let's have a look yeah i'm sorry obviously we've been following

01:26:48.040 everything that's been going on there um i feel for you um good luck i hope that you're out sooner

01:26:54.380 anyway um we've got a minute or two before we need to uh finish up so do you want to go through

01:27:02.320 some of the uh website comments go for it for us yeah sure uh jimbo g burnham may be a better

01:27:09.100 system man than starmer he genuinely believes that globalist statism is the solution to everything

01:27:14.380 he's just the perception manager yeah pretty much pretty much henry says the use of britain is quite

01:27:20.880 a useful term to help distinguish between a paper

01:27:22.920 British citizen and someone indigenous

01:27:24.780 to these isles, even if this distinction only 0.99

01:27:26.940 exists because the Uniparty wants

01:27:28.980 to apply a new world 1.00

01:27:30.640 Yankee nonsense to one of the 1.00

01:27:32.860 oldest old world nations 0.99

01:27:34.800 on earth. 0.98

01:27:35.820 It wasn't even American. I know they 1.00

01:27:38.860 imported the phrase melting pot, but the founding fathers

01:27:40.620 immediately restricted immigration

01:27:42.120 to freeborn

01:27:44.900 white men of good moral character. They wouldn't 0.73

01:27:46.720 recognize it as American either.

01:27:48.060 Do you want to go through two of yours now? Sure. 0.66

01:27:50.420 Are we on my bit?

01:27:51.620 Yes.

01:27:52.140 Excellent.

01:27:53.360 Thanks, Scottie, Swendon.

01:27:54.400 I've only just joined the podcast,

01:27:55.420 and the first thing I hear is Firaz saying, 0.82

01:27:57.060 no one is that retarded. 1.00

01:27:58.620 Welcome to the Insights of My Citizenship. 1.00

01:27:59.560 You'll always find someone that retarded. 1.00

01:28:01.040 Thank you for being a co-tier subscriber. 1.00

01:28:02.720 This is what you're subsidizing.

01:28:04.080 A California refugee who I haven't seen in the comments for ages,

01:28:06.220 but it's nice to see him again. 0.99

01:28:07.380 Whatever reform says they will keep from foreign nationals, 1.00

01:28:09.660 remember, they will gladly give it to foreigners 0.99

01:28:11.100 who are legal citizens on paper,

01:28:12.460 including the Boris way for about to all be made legal citizens.

01:28:14.940 Farad did in fact say that stripping citizenship

01:28:16.860 is not on the table last year.

01:28:18.800 So unless they change that policy,

01:28:20.420 We're all in for a big bill.

01:28:22.400 See, here, speak.

01:28:23.560 Jonas Patrick Marvin is to demographics and diversity

01:28:26.800 as Gary Stevenson is to economics.

01:28:28.660 They both know nothing on their subject of quote-unquote expertise.

01:28:32.300 And Henry Ashman, a key part of being working clash

01:28:34.520 is the working part of it.

01:28:36.640 We've now developed another permanent benefits class.

01:28:39.400 A fair day's work for a fair day's pay

01:28:41.360 seems to have been replaced with Gibbs for no work because identity.

01:28:44.420 So you have been to Stoke. Interesting.

01:28:46.640 um and with that i think that's where we're going to end it for everybody who's subscribed to the

01:28:52.500 website join us in half an hour so you can watch the round table where we will discuss

01:28:56.440 the madness of the lindsey clancy trial everybody else we'll see you again tomorrow take care

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - September 02, 2026

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