The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1498

00:00:00.000 good afternoon folks welcome to the podcast the load ceases for thursday the 3rd of september

00:00:05.200 2026 i'm joined by luca and dan hello and we're going to be talking about whether nigel farage

00:00:10.800 has blown it or not the new right-wing party in italy that is causing a stir and the circo theory

00:00:18.320 of everything is everything just to enrich circo we're going to find out um nothing to announce so

00:00:24.480 no i do have something oh sorry okay yeah so i made a 40k video and put it up on the daily channel

00:00:28.800 yesterday it was a good video and some people think that my interpretation of the law is wrong

00:00:33.540 and if you are one of those people i want you to know that i am coming for you

00:00:37.440 i can't do it today because i've got a brokonomics to record after this but tomorrow i am making a

00:00:44.000 follow-up video and i i'm i'm i'm going to take you people apart right because i did not get

00:00:50.620 anything wrong i'm sure he's going to come with receipts okay well let's let's talk about uh

00:00:56.220 something slightly less important than warhammer law uh british politics have you seen this poll

00:01:01.140 guys i have i've noticed it interesting can we can we zamson can you make it big uh there we go

00:01:08.920 so labor 26 conservatives 23 in second place and reforming with 22 in third place that's not good

00:01:19.780 it's not good it is an outlier poll i'll give you that but you couldn't have got an outlier

00:01:28.220 poll like that a year ago yeah in fact in fact the outlier polls from a year ago all they all

00:01:34.960 that varied was how big the reform lead was oh yeah i mean what was it we were doing shows back

00:01:41.820 then on the political chats it was well a year ago it was like 30 percent yeah 31 cents something

00:01:47.000 there were polls where you you transfer it over and the conservatives were going to get something

00:01:51.100 like 20 seats so i remember looking at a public car where labor were predicted to get four seats

00:01:56.640 yeah yeah that would have been great and and look okay fine it is a it is an outlier poll so i you

00:02:04.840 know i've got to be fair about that let's have a look at the um a whole bunch of the averages there

00:02:10.240 so that that's the last sort of set of polls yeah um so where are we so yeah conservative so that

00:02:17.460 yeah the more in common one um and i think they're racked something like 12 out of 20

00:02:22.300 from the most accurate polls they're not they're not great to be honest um but yeah i mean like

00:02:27.540 but you can see the average has been going down over the last couple of weeks from uh the sort of

00:02:33.460 high to mid-twenties

00:02:35.700 to, well, the low

00:02:37.760 twenties. And

00:02:39.500 in this particular poll below

00:02:41.600 the Conservatives. But the

00:02:43.200 Conservative polling has barely risen

00:02:45.640 or fallen. It's just, Kemi Baden-Ock

00:02:47.660 has just stabilised the party.

00:02:50.540 At the end of the day, they're still

00:02:51.820 obviously going to lock down their

00:02:53.800 core voters, which is the boomers wanting

00:02:55.840 their triple locks.

00:02:58.300 And beyond that,

00:02:59.420 not a lot is going to... It's not just that. It's kind of like

00:03:01.440 shia tories as well who are concerned about farming and things like this you know like it's

00:03:06.540 it's not just boomers and then they saw kemi badenock put on a barber jacket exactly once

00:03:11.900 and thought that's our girl yeah she spent an afternoon at a farm once she looks naturally

00:03:16.380 english then you got a barber jacket on um but no i think it is important there is there is

00:03:21.400 signal even if this is an outlier um the fact that it is starting to crop up is significant

00:03:27.720 because first pass the post as much as anything is a party coordination mechanism um rather than

00:03:32.740 just a rather than just a straight measuring device because it can become self-reinforcing

00:03:37.180 because i mean put it this way if you're starting to get polls where where conservatives are ahead

00:03:41.900 of reform what does that do to defections not just a candidate owners activists but also when

00:03:50.620 the rubber has met the road in every by-election last year reform has not performed well so they

00:03:58.480 don't have like a string of victories no under their belt if they were like well you know whatever

00:04:02.380 the polls say we want here we want here we want here look at our court mcdenton mp that's real

00:04:06.720 data yeah exactly look at how we did in makefield you underperformed in everything well and the

00:04:11.560 other thing of course is that for the last two years now i think the argument because i mean we

00:04:16.980 get a lot of attack videos made about the content that we do sort of secondhand yeah i'd only

00:04:22.420 noticed the other day but apparently there's loads of them all right i didn't even notice

00:04:25.960 i'd like to respond some um you might have other things to do but you can if you want

00:04:34.440 um but the but um i did have a look at some of them and by far the central argument is

00:04:40.580 whichever right-wing party has the lead in the polls is the one that you have a responsibility

00:04:45.060 to back i suspect they might be rowing back there from that position pretty hard if this becomes a

00:04:53.080 thing but by that definition i only recognize one right-wing party in the country well and also

00:04:58.800 that they're all interchangeable exactly i mean conservatives and reform do not agree that

00:05:04.540 demographic security of the british people is a concern it's just literally not in them well i

00:05:09.020 mean that that's why anybody who's in reform is is in restore is in restore now because they don't

00:05:13.880 think that any right-wing party is interchangeable because i mean why would we have bothered giving

00:05:17.480 up with the tories in the first place well yeah exactly so i mean um actually i'll tell you what

00:05:23.200 is interesting is some of this um you gov um data where they kind of look at reform voters and sort

00:05:33.080 of dig into them i won't dig it out from here because there was so much data here but i pulled

00:05:38.280 out some of the key findings um so one of the key interesting things is of the reform voters

00:05:45.200 only 29 of them say that reform is the only party that they consider so put it another way

00:05:53.220 seven out of ten of reform voters are open to the idea of going somewhere else well this um this all

00:06:00.240 harkens back to what we were saying at the beginning which was a reform uk were ultimately

00:06:04.340 a protest vote it was a vote given to them because the vote had nowhere else to go it wasn't

00:06:09.980 necessarily out of any genuine robust confidence in reform uk or its you know senior leadership

00:06:16.900 do you want to know where um of those who um are reform voters but are open to going somewhere else

00:06:26.520 who they're considering well it's restore 43 percent and conservatives 40 percent

00:06:32.640 and then a whole string of there's some labour in there as well but if if reform does unwind

00:06:40.960 conservatives get a lot of those voters back well 3.2 whatever it is and restore get like 3.3 of

00:06:50.260 them but if it doesn't wind as well it could be very sudden yes well it could all happen

00:06:56.040 exceedingly quickly i've been saying this for a while i i'm the opinion that if they get down to

00:07:01.300 about 15 percent in the polls then farage leaves in the party pancakes that's that's the i've got

00:07:07.160 a juicy stat in here about that i mean i i come to it in a second because otherwise i'll lose my

00:07:12.600 place but um another thing that this sort of this sort of detailed analysis shows is that of the

00:07:19.900 conservatives who have gone over to reform 73 percent of them are basically content with going

00:07:27.740 back to the conservatives again and 31 of them are happy to go to restore if reform doesn't work

00:07:34.620 out i mean that's that's kind of disheartening yeah 70 of them are like yeah well i could just

00:07:40.800 get stabbed in the back again yeah you could you could absolutely just get stabbed in the back

00:07:45.700 again why wouldn't you that is very quick to forgive the worst betrayal in british politics

00:07:51.140 very quick worse than the labor betrayal well i mean to your point luca it's it's are

00:07:55.860 are they thinking um you know that i i can't vote tory again or are they thinking i am going to use

00:08:03.100 this vehicle to discipline and punish the tory party but in my heart i'm a tory vote yeah yeah

00:08:09.160 i mean they must be because you know voting for the tories is hardly disciplining and punishing

00:08:14.200 them and abandoning reform as the only mechanism that you saw that was something i could give the

00:08:20.740 are lashing with implies that you've given up on that anyway just well i guess i'm just gonna have

00:08:25.860 to go back to them then i found my killer point that connects to what you were saying so of the

00:08:30.580 people who vote reform apparently only 43 are doing so without any reservation about voting

00:08:39.360 reform and and here's the killer thing to your thing right of the reform voters 91 are mainly

00:08:49.080 doing it because they view farage favorably really interesting so that is a remarkably soft

00:08:54.400 commitment to the party and a remarkably strong commitment to the leader and and this is something

00:09:01.320 i've done a whole bunch of segments on before i think this is a party which is a cult of

00:09:05.940 personality built around one man and i mean the reason for that is fairly obvious not exactly

00:09:10.660 staggering insight well no it's not i mean the the evidence is legion yeah um such as

00:09:17.200 whenever it looks like somebody might be getting too popular um he makes up a reason to keep them

00:09:23.100 out the party oh yeah politically assassinate been down that road many times so it's it's not

00:09:28.200 that surprising to find that for 91 of reform voters it's about the man it's not about it's

00:09:34.360 not actually about the party yeah which is so and we saw this in clacton with farage fest

00:09:40.220 yes the embarrassing Farage

00:09:43.380 rest but to your point

00:09:45.160 if you're right if they do

00:09:47.360 get down to 15% in the poll and end up

00:09:49.400 regularly coming third and

00:09:51.300 Farage quits and

00:09:53.040 91% of the party are there

00:09:55.640 because of the man not the party

00:09:57.680 they'll disappear literally overnight

00:09:59.460 it may

00:10:01.780 also on the left

00:10:03.260 reconfigure things somewhat as well

00:10:05.620 because up until now

00:10:07.780 though the Green Party are very

00:10:09.520 very happy with their rise and obviously increasing the membership and getting more

00:10:14.680 messaging out there. They didn't want to harm Labour so much that they would hand victory over

00:10:22.240 to reform. But if they see reform dipping in the polls sufficiently in the way that they're not

00:10:27.460 going to be a threat, that might actually lead to the Green Party once again being very aggressive

00:10:32.340 against the Labour Party and starting to take from them, especially given that, you know,

00:10:38.820 parliament is opening up again and it's no doubt there's no doubt that burnham is not ready for

00:10:43.620 whatever challenges lay ahead he's not ready for the budget also considering that polanski has just

00:10:47.940 declared himself for holborn and st pancras right where kia starmer's constituency where he stood

00:10:52.640 down yep uh and he has a competitive chance of winning it oh yeah definitely foreigners yeah

00:10:58.120 well exactly uh but also for labor voters as well like ones who aren't foreigners are just

00:11:02.620 died normal labor right so and then lots of people have just been like oh well i was very

00:11:06.860 disappointed with labor party yeah well here's the radical alternative maybe you want him so so

00:11:12.500 actually in here i did have some numbers on that as well um the labor to reform switches are actually

00:11:19.420 the most solid ones yeah i bet they are so amongst the people who have gone from labor to reform

00:11:24.440 only 11 of them would consider returning to labor but of those who have already made the switch from

00:11:30.740 labor to reform um 20 percent would consider the conservatives and 41 percent would consider

00:11:39.120 restore right okay that's fairly remarkable because i mean the i mean the key thing about

00:11:44.680 a labor voter is they just hate the tories more than anything else that that's their guiding

00:11:48.760 you can always trust them on that yeah i think one of the reasons i think farage managed to get

00:11:54.580 a lot of Labour voters in the North is because he would never say it this way but his aesthetics

00:12:01.520 and impression is always we're going we're going to be a party that begins from the premise that

00:12:09.020 this is our country right so the Labour Party under Keir Starmer are a globalist party the

00:12:14.740 Conservatives under Boris Johnson are a globalist party I'm not a globalist and therefore that

00:12:19.520 implies that the British people have a direct claim of ownership over Britain right and I think

00:12:23.740 A lot of Northern Labour voters obviously think that,

00:12:26.300 and that's what the Labour Party used to be

00:12:28.080 before Tony Blair and the managerial lawyers captured it.

00:12:33.040 And so that's why I think that they went over to Farage.

00:12:35.280 But Farage himself is just wishy-washy.

00:12:38.460 Well, Farage's old Euroscepticism

00:12:40.860 was something they would have seen in a pre-Blair Labour Party

00:12:44.420 in the likes of people like Tony Benn.

00:12:46.460 Or been.

00:12:47.080 Yeah.

00:12:48.080 I've got one more supporting claim

00:12:50.100 before I do my clever maths stuff at the end.

00:12:52.160 but of the reform proper base so the people who actually voted for reform in 2024 yeah of those

00:12:59.360 49 would consider restore so out of was about four and a half million people yep uh we're so

00:13:07.560 we're looking at more than two and a half uh well almost two and a half million 2.25 yeah million

00:13:12.640 people if this unravels it is game changing for the store and in six months yes anecdotally as

00:13:20.040 Well, from my time up in Makerfield, where I was speaking to certain people who told me that they would be voting for Reform UK, not in all cases, but in many cases, what they would say is, we're going to vote for Reform UK this time, because it feels like the surest success in this by-election, but next time, come the general election, you can count on us.

00:13:42.700 and if we get to the place of the general election where reform uk are not even really contenders in

00:13:49.780 it then that's all going to inspire them more confidently to take the plunge yeah so anyway

00:13:55.720 my clever maths that i did um it doesn't directly say this within there but you can work it out from

00:14:01.280 the data so let's take that more in common poll yeah let's say that becomes a thing and then you

00:14:07.520 apply this layer to it of preferences what you get is of the 22 points reform got in that one

00:14:15.740 common poll um nine and a half points would consider restore okay so that that you could

00:14:24.560 potentially if if parade quits the party basically implodes yeah you could add that's nine and a

00:14:30.780 half points nine percentage points right just to yes nine percent right yeah yeah so so restore

00:14:36.040 would be looking at about 13-14%.

00:14:38.060 Yes.

00:14:39.640 8.8 points would

00:14:41.900 probably go back to the Conservatives.

00:14:44.060 So they're on nearly 30?

00:14:46.240 Yep. So the Conservatives

00:14:48.240 on this would go to... In fact, let's go

00:14:50.060 back to it. There is another aspect

00:14:52.160 that if all of this attention did

00:14:54.100 go back to the Conservative Party,

00:14:56.480 it would once again force people

00:14:58.220 into a position where you would

00:14:59.700 have to listen to the Conservative Party

00:15:02.140 and then you would realise, oh, they haven't

00:15:04.300 learnt a damn thing actually.

00:15:06.040 um because right now the reason why they've been able to stabilize is actually just because no

00:15:11.060 one's listening to them but if you actually have to listen to them again yeah this is the point

00:15:15.940 dominic cummings has been making for a long time yes i just don't even care about the conservatives

00:15:19.340 so yeah well we forget to mention them most of the time when we talk about politics it just and

00:15:24.160 at the end it's like oh we forgot to mention the tories yeah but it might be that we have to start

00:15:28.340 talking about them again i would hate that as well because i really i i really thought we were

00:15:32.680 going to be able to credit farage with the the one thing we could credit him with is breaking

00:15:36.760 the two-party paradigm yeah i i mean i'm sort of spent on disappointment when it comes to farage

00:15:42.680 well yeah but i i should be really annoyed with him because look you've got a once not even a

00:15:47.420 generation you've got once in a hundred year opportunity to destroy the uni party and you

00:15:53.340 blew it you absorbed a lot of it well yeah you either but you you killed the insurgency

00:16:00.600 by expelling your right wing

00:16:02.860 and taking a bunch of Tories.

00:16:06.100 And moderating

00:16:07.340 and watering down

00:16:08.720 and not having a plan either.

00:16:11.800 If you'd come out with just a solid plan

00:16:13.720 and stuck to it,

00:16:15.740 people would have been like,

00:16:16.420 okay, what do you say?

00:16:16.820 An unapologetic,

00:16:17.760 we're going to do this, this.

00:16:18.740 But instead,

00:16:19.700 it's this phrase that I've heard

00:16:22.020 gets repeated within Reform HQ,

00:16:24.420 which is we've got to carry this Ming vase

00:16:26.180 across the ice rink.

00:16:27.960 You know, as in,

00:16:28.860 we started on day one of this parliament

00:16:30.580 with a poll lead we've got to be extremely careful and extremely moderate and and pussyfoot around

00:16:36.960 in order to get to the other side to preserve it like no you you had to bring the energy

00:16:41.720 that got you that in the first place and he wasn't aggressively attacking Labour and the

00:16:46.820 Conservatives on the weak points either right like he he could be saying to the Northerners

00:16:52.420 look everything that Labour has failed you on we're gonna we're gonna restore everything the

00:16:57.080 conservatives have failed you on speak to the south we're gonna we're gonna fix this you know

00:17:00.620 so you're gonna get free marketeers you're gonna get government investment you're gonna get fewer

00:17:05.020 immigrants which both sides of blah thank god we can deport five million people the entire boris

00:17:09.540 wave gone free marketeering for the south you know the city of london guys you getting no

00:17:14.580 transaction taxes anything like that the northerners yeah well we're gonna need to build

00:17:17.900 data centers we're gonna have to build industrial hubs to protect britain in a world that is

00:17:22.300 currently undergoing massive upheaval you can say to the welsh you guys obviously love mining

00:17:27.960 you can have bitcoin mining or coal mines back again you know whatever it is you know you could

00:17:33.820 have just told them what they wanted to hear yes literally just do it so yeah so using this poll

00:17:39.540 as a basis if if if your scenario holds true which is you know nigel walks out on this or

00:17:46.180 whatever he does uh you can add um 9.5 to this so yeah 13 and a half yeah you can add 31 for the

00:17:55.340 nine to that yeah so 31 here so yeah actually points for labor so actually the tories would

00:18:01.300 probably be in the lead yes um and 6.4 points say no it's reform only and if if reform isn't an

00:18:11.500 option i'm not voting so and then that'll probably end up just whittling itself down anyway yeah

00:18:17.120 because they probably won't hold to that position so there's all of that right um and then the other

00:18:22.920 thing that i wanted to talk about is you know as it says here mel stride pretty patel sacked in

00:18:28.700 shadow cabinet reshuffle kemi bade not puts tories on a war footing for an early general election

00:18:34.000 that's good good thinking i mean this there is a whole bunch of articles i mean i'll show you a

00:18:39.440 whole bunch of mainstream articles um and in order to give you a little bit of a palette cleanser

00:18:44.880 yeah um because the rumor going around is that people think andy burnham will call the general

00:18:49.700 election uh he was being particularly friendly with the lib dems in parliament implying that he

00:18:53.840 wants coalition with them or something like that exactly but i don't want to i don't want to show

00:18:57.780 you a whole bunch of mainstream media links without giving you something for your soul

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00:19:23.420 zoom call and if ever there's if ever there's like a zombie apocalypse we'd be we'd be turning

00:19:28.700 up at the gold core house first with our shotguns absolutely so so but then so anyway back to back

00:19:34.240 back to the articles um yeah conservative home uh what are they saying deeper and wider the

00:19:39.080 reshuffle uh that says burnham's going to go early so for whatever reason and and bear in mind the

00:19:44.660 tories and the labor party i mean they they work in the same building um you know i've worked in

00:19:49.500 that building that they're all pally they all know each other they all hang out at the bar

00:19:53.500 if anyone in labor and i don't think that anyone apart from andy burnham and his core team actually

00:19:59.840 knows but nevertheless there were a whole bunch of ducks you want to get in a row before you call

00:20:06.000 an election and people have been in politics their whole life they can see oh hang on a minute

00:20:10.480 we're being asked to do this this and this why does that make any sense unless there's an election

00:20:15.720 on the way and they're talking to their Labour friends in the bar yeah so they're Tory friends

00:20:20.760 in the bar because it's basically a unit party people are starting to put together the pieces

00:20:24.700 oh there might actually be an early general election I mean I wouldn't be surprised if

00:20:28.980 Labour deliberately informed the Tories in advance because Labour and Conservatives

00:20:35.400 are both, they've both got big wounds because of Farage and reform.

00:20:39.900 And the Greens.

00:20:40.900 And the Greens, yeah.

00:20:42.100 So if they can kill the insurgents.

00:20:43.780 Exactly.

00:20:44.340 And so they recognise, look, this is our chance to recapture British politics because

00:20:48.620 otherwise we're going to get eaten alive.

00:20:49.860 Get the duopoly back.

00:20:50.980 Exactly.

00:20:51.660 Yes.

00:20:51.920 And so I would not be surprised if they were, you know, run this over to so-and-so's office.

00:20:57.180 Just let him know.

00:20:58.980 so so i mean i was gonna i was gonna come to this later but blair understands this explicitly you

00:21:03.700 can go back and watch an interview after the 1997 general election he didn't want to destroy the

00:21:08.100 tories yes he understands the game because the way that politics in this works is that the

00:21:12.900 countryside votes tory well at least back in 1997 the countryside voted tory and the cities voted

00:21:18.180 labor which means when you have an election if you're in a city you get those results first

00:21:23.540 because the votes have much less distance to travel and the infrastructure to count the votes

00:21:28.600 is better and therefore you tend to get the Labour results first and Blair hadn't quite appreciated

00:21:34.580 this so on the night of the 1997 general election Blair was looking at the results coming in and it

00:21:39.740 was something like 200 Labour seats and like one Tory seat and he was bricking it and he admitted

00:21:45.860 this in an interview afterwards he was bricking it because he was like oh shit I've killed the

00:21:51.000 Tory party and it's and it's and and and Peter Hitchens who is now wrong about everything but

00:21:56.580 used to be right about everything he was quite correct that the Labour and the Tory party they're

00:22:00.900 two corpses leaning on each other propping each other up and Blair understood that mechanism and

00:22:06.500 what you're quite correctly saying is and we know right and we know the fact that he could recognize

00:22:11.720 even back in the 90s that these were corpses yes as well I mean he he he still insists you vote for

00:22:18.160 one of the corpses um after spending a career too much about pts yes but anyway point is um

00:22:24.980 you're right to bring up the blair stuff because uh of burnham's team there's a whole bunch of

00:22:31.120 i've got it in my in my note somewhere right was it old yeah um pernell yeah yeah james pernell

00:22:37.880 so he's a former blair advisor burnham oh and well and burn himself yes former blair advisor

00:22:43.820 Yes, yes, absolutely right.

00:22:44.920 Or he was a minor minister of some sort.

00:22:48.040 I can't remember.

00:22:48.400 He was a minor minister for Blair,

00:22:49.800 and he got promoted heavily under Brown.

00:22:51.660 Yes.

00:22:52.040 And Pernell was a top advisor to both Blair and Brown.

00:22:56.320 Okay.

00:22:56.800 So basically, because Blair's influence kind of receded a bit with Starmer.

00:23:02.620 Yeah.

00:23:03.300 Because Starmer writes them.

00:23:05.240 Literally there, Blair rebukes Starmer for not backing Trump.

00:23:07.820 Yes, okay, well, there we go, yeah.

00:23:09.080 Yeah, Blair's been publicly critical many times, actually,

00:23:11.540 because Starmer's too thick.

00:23:12.580 Starmer and Blair were not close.

00:23:14.820 Yeah, not close at all.

00:23:16.220 But Burnham and Blair, much, much closer.

00:23:19.220 So this kind of thinking is,

00:23:21.340 and it kind of leads you to the question of,

00:23:23.740 okay, what is an early election going to achieve?

00:23:26.900 Is it going to maximise his number of seats?

00:23:29.380 Well, against what he's currently got, probably not.

00:23:31.720 Definitely not.

00:23:32.440 But does it restore a political system

00:23:35.640 where elections don't change anything?

00:23:39.040 Yeah.

00:23:39.180 So they're very happy with the third party

00:23:40.860 being the Liberal Democrats.

00:23:41.880 because the liberal democrats are a perfect compromise between the labor and conservative

00:23:46.240 party yes they want to do nothing and they want to morally grandstand yes like the labor party do

00:23:51.000 so it's like okay great they're a perfect non-entity foil we don't want reform who are

00:23:58.020 constantly being dogged by restore we don't want the greens yeah who are constantly screaming

00:24:02.580 we most definitely don't want the store yeah because they will properly change things exactly

00:24:07.420 anything outside of the duopoly is terrifying and no i'd i mean i've even seen them say i want the

00:24:13.200 respectable conservatives back as in the ones that agreed with us and would let us do whatever we

00:24:17.180 wanted you know the ones who got us to this mess yeah exactly yeah i mean oh yeah ultimately is

00:24:23.020 they want elections that don't change anything yes they want to be able to put in place a political

00:24:27.940 settlement and then call a general election safe in the knowledge that win or lose that settlement

00:24:33.200 remains in place if we um also as well if there is a general election sometime soon that pushes

00:24:38.900 obviously the date back significantly by a number of years for when the next one will be and then

00:24:44.860 people like farage have to make the calculation do i want to spend an extra two years

00:24:49.440 and the calculation that he will make is do i want to spend five years doing this getting

00:24:55.380 hostile interviews people turning up at my house and all of the stuff that he absolutely hates

00:25:00.420 or do i want to go to america and get a tv show i earn 10 million dollars a year 20 million dollars

00:25:07.000 a year i mean you or me you might think okay well country first but for for farage he's all about

00:25:13.480 the gibbs wouldn't be the first time yeah um i mean i've got some other i i i was going to make

00:25:19.100 some other points but i will skim them incredibly quickly um just to say that the financial clock

00:25:25.380 is running down i mean i'll cover this more in the brokonomics which i'm going to film later and

00:25:29.380 will go out i think next tuesday uh but the city is awash with the talk as it says here of an early

00:25:35.100 general election for the very simple reason is if you if you're looking at the finances

00:25:40.340 you can see that some very hard choices are coming well the budget's in october isn't it

00:25:45.960 yeah so it's one month until we get well yeah but what i mean it's not beyond the realm of

00:25:52.400 possibility to do a to do a holding pattern budget in october yeah and make sure you have

00:25:59.420 the election done and dusted by the next budget because that's the one where it's like okay well

00:26:04.940 at this point you either need to suddenly find a new way to tax people that they're not resistant

00:26:09.840 to or you need to start cutting spending quite hard or you need to start printing money which

00:26:18.220 will result in a tidal wave of inflation and people getting pissed off so so the financial

00:26:24.240 choices are only getting really really bad for burnham an early general election i mean the

00:26:29.880 calculate spending like a beast as well yes because because because the because the calculation

00:26:35.100 doesn't need to be um am i going to win more seats than i've currently got the calculation

00:26:41.780 needs to be is am i ever going to get a better opportunity than the next six months yeah and

00:26:46.440 for burnham and the answer is definitely no no definitely yeah so i'll leave that there okay

00:26:52.400 sigil stone says i can't believe carl died it's too soon almost like i can still hear his voice

00:26:57.720 glad thomas is back to fill his seat maybe samson will start presenting again too yeah

00:27:01.460 uh yeah thanks john wong for making everyone think i died as you can see he is not dead

00:27:06.460 my death been greatly exaggerated so let's move on all right then ladies and gentlemen so italy

00:27:13.400 like any other country in the west is trying to escape the doom loop of infinity foreigners

00:27:18.440 uh they tried this a few years ago by electing georgia maloney um as their prime minister and

00:27:25.940 you know what you know in terms of the election you can't fault them because her rhetoric was

00:27:30.860 much stronger uh much more uncompromising leading up to all of this but then once she got into power

00:27:37.040 like so many things we found that actually she's a colossal traitor and for all of the

00:27:42.540 hoo-ha from the Italian press and from the bureaucrats in the EU as well, you know, who

00:27:48.380 were comparing it to Mussolini and talking about how this is the most right-wing government that

00:27:53.140 Italy has had since the days of, you know, the mid 20th century. Well, you know, it seemed from

00:27:58.900 all sides that she represented a genuine insurgency against them. However, what has become obvious is

00:28:06.320 not just the fact that actually the rest of the eu and the member states have tempered the the

00:28:14.160 more radical excesses of her politics but have kind of like with a nail file shorn it all away

00:28:20.160 until there's nothing radical left at all about her i know how they do this right what they do

00:28:25.680 is the treasury they bring her in they sit down and they show her the graph yeah what the graph

00:28:32.080 fears is birth rates and pensions and they just say look this crosses over you know if you do this

00:28:39.900 then within your tenure or whenever this happens you're responsible for it and therefore and she's

00:28:45.360 like wow good point you want to be the the prime minister or president who takes away boomers

00:28:50.080 pensions or do you want to open the tap to migration and she's like oh okay yeah migration

00:28:55.420 then exactly i mean italy's birth rate is one so right italy's population is due to half in the

00:29:01.260 next like 30 years or something yeah it's um creaky it's absolutely dreadful but it also leads

00:29:06.960 because you've reneged on all of that you now find uh outfits like politico that we're calling

00:29:12.320 you a nazi just you know five minutes now writing just puff pieces for you just talking about how

00:29:17.560 you're basically captured and you no longer present any sort of threat and it's very easy

00:29:22.240 to see why that might be uh because if we go to the number of uh immigrants who've arrived by sea

00:29:28.660 during the illegal crisis across the Mediterranean coast.

00:29:32.380 Well, in the time whilst Maloney has been prime minister now,

00:29:36.700 it's well into the hundreds and hundreds of thousands.

00:29:40.280 And this obviously represents, and even here,

00:29:43.360 where you can see it's diminished in the past few years by half.

00:29:47.220 I'm sorry, but nearly 70,000 is still a ridiculous number.

00:29:51.880 And they're the ones breaking into the country.

00:29:53.820 Yes.

00:29:54.320 There are loads of legal migrants in Italy.

00:29:56.260 Right. Well, absolutely.

00:29:57.300 in fact i was just going to talk about that now uh which is to say that ah sorry if there we go

00:30:02.920 translated uh maloney what a welcome never before have there been so many resident permits for

00:30:08.040 foreigners africans and asians lead the way and it's kind of asians well it's genuinely remarkable

00:30:14.180 because as opposed to the sorts of immigration that they were getting pre-maloney what we've

00:30:19.840 actually found within um her tenure as prime minister that we're now getting more and more

00:30:25.980 third world immigration and less internal european immigration so for example a the whole of asia

00:30:32.200 immigration from asia general has gone up by 18.6 percent from the year 24 to 25 for bangladesh

00:30:40.520 specifically it's gone up by 22 percent uh morocco 48 percent because where would italy be without

00:30:48.060 uh moroccan migrants pakistan 20 india 22 percent and of course just the same everywhere

00:30:55.080 Modi recently visited

00:30:56.700 India, sorry, Italy

00:30:58.760 So Asian means

00:31:01.260 Indian, Pakistani and Bangladesh

00:31:03.220 Subcontinental, yeah

00:31:04.240 It doesn't mean South Koreans and Japanese people

00:31:06.280 It means, yes, it means all of the

00:31:08.200 Do we even have a word for whatever they are now?

00:31:11.440 Oriental? Bring that back

00:31:13.160 Yeah, definitely good word

00:31:14.880 I remember when I was a young man

00:31:16.760 Oriental was considered racist and we had to get rid of it

00:31:19.360 and start calling them Asians

00:31:20.320 I know, but it's a cool word

00:31:21.660 because it sounds classic and it sounds it's it sounds like there's a kind of high high period

00:31:27.940 of civilization that the word oriental is but i distinctly remember being i remember from the

00:31:33.120 early 2000s dignity to those civilizations i agree i think just calling them asian as if they're just

00:31:37.440 this homogenous mass is actually degraded yes fair enough um and of course the the worst thing

00:31:43.100 about all of this is not just the sheer numbers of it but of course the fact that now this

00:31:47.940 demographic transformation is baked in yeah uh to the youth itself and as this article says here

00:31:55.220 italia is undergoing a profound demographic shift with its young population increasingly made up of

00:32:00.860 people of foreign origin whilst the birth rates among native italians continue to fall sharply

00:32:06.400 well they're not there but young people no there's somebody else's young people who are living in

00:32:11.140 your country yes of course yeah yes i'll tell you what was weird is that last year i went on holiday

00:32:14.920 to Italy with my missus and we went to uh Sicily and Italy and I just didn't see that many kids

00:32:21.340 around just weren't that many around it was a bit bizarre frankly it's it's tragic yeah and it's so

00:32:27.880 striking because I mentioned on the video last night I went to was it Philippines and there's

00:32:32.320 just young people everywhere and you notice the contrast that it just feels so different so much

00:32:37.560 energy and vitality of young people going around doing stuff and being young as opposed to going

00:32:42.780 somewhere and everyone's just shuffling along and in just doing in just doing that in seeing a

00:32:47.880 civilization of young people it will orientate your mind more to the future yeah because you're

00:32:54.180 you're literally seeing the future all around you what choice do you have right um so all of this is

00:33:00.600 quite terrible and but it does just lead me into something that i wanted to pull from my literature

00:33:05.360 series chronicles and you can get access to all of the wonderful premium work we do for as little

00:33:10.140 as five pounds a month on the website but in canto four of child harold's pilgrimage byron himself

00:33:16.140 spent a lot of time going around florence and venice and rome and particularly you know just

00:33:21.940 meditating almost in a spen proto-spenglarian sense on you know the shift of civilizations

00:33:28.160 the decline from the roman empire and but also as well the great flourishing that italy has

00:33:33.320 managed to continue to have in all of the time since then with great poets like dante with its

00:33:38.920 genuine vitality during the renaissance period all of the wonderful artists who came from

00:33:44.500 from italy and also the the veneration that italy has had uniquely as a country partly because it's

00:33:50.540 obviously the center of catholicism with vatican but also as well that it has always represented

00:33:56.940 a very spiritually important place for european peoples especially those obviously who are

00:34:02.560 uh mediterranean and come from the greco-roman tradition those who are catholic those who are

00:34:07.700 catholic yes not not like us but uh enough said um so all of this is to say that it's not perhaps

00:34:14.040 surprising when you have uh maloney being voted in on expressly uh anti-migration sympathies

00:34:22.580 and finding yourself rug pulled and betrayed once more that every single time that this happens

00:34:29.140 in our own case when it comes to the tory party you get then reform shipping out saying there's

00:34:35.160 a window here and we need to give more robust rhetoric to the right then you find them flopping

00:34:40.980 then you get restore britain saying well we're actually going to hold your feet to the fire

00:34:45.380 and on and on it goes there's always a more based fish just out it's the russian nesting dolls of

00:34:51.200 right wing and at some point the public is going to be ready for the true message which is you can

00:34:56.600 either have old age pensions and immigrants or neither of those things yeah yeah and they will

00:35:03.180 or you can have children and low taxes yes but you might have to bring your um elderly relatives

00:35:09.240 to come and live with you in this bedroom bedroom just like we did throughout history forever yes

00:35:13.420 sorry my mouse is broken would someone just pass me this thank you

00:35:16.840 shake it won't work there we go thank you um and so as we can see this is now happening and now so

00:35:24.840 i would like to introduce you to one MEP himself Roberto Vanacci uh who actually only founded this

00:35:32.800 new party uh futuro nazionale so a national future in february of this year they're very

00:35:40.240 similar to a restore britain almost very similar in terms of membership numbers as well in fact

00:35:45.860 about 130 to 150 000 people voting for it and we can see it already overtaking uh forza italia

00:35:54.420 to now become the fourth highest ranking party within the polls it's on about 7.5 percent at

00:36:01.640 this point and just for a bit of background on uh venacci himself well he originally split from

00:36:07.960 matteo salvini's league party uh towards the beginning of 2026 and also as well he was a

00:36:14.600 former paratrooper and he's also a retired general right okay um so serious chap this is a man who

00:36:21.620 has uh been in north africa during the arab spring he's a man who's been in afghanistan he's

00:36:27.660 worked very very closely with geopolitical allies record of serving his country yes and he's

00:36:34.520 promoting and he's presumably saying that he wants to put his country first can i take a wild guess

00:36:39.620 are they calling him a nazi no they're calling him a fascist oh okay it's italy isn't it well okay

00:36:45.140 yeah you actually they were there first yeah they were yeah they were yeah i'm calling it quite

00:36:49.380 bloody cool um and also as well so in 2023 he released a best uh bestseller which is il mondo

00:36:56.320 al contrario which is the world upside down uh where he just went through all of the pillars

00:37:02.440 of civilization and how we've inverted them and turn them you know back well back to front as

00:37:07.500 the title says and so i suppose we should just start talking about something of the manifesto

00:37:12.940 and what's being said in this now if i go down there's a word here that you're a particular fan

00:37:17.620 of it is and not when we see much in british politics which is virtue and it says for national

00:37:22.580 future uh politics is first and foremost character courage duty discipline spirit of sacrifice

00:37:29.520 without virtue there is no solid community freedom without responsibility becomes fragility

00:37:35.260 right without duty becomes pretension pride without discipline becomes vanity virtue also

00:37:41.440 means respect for institutions your word and the common good now i'm not going yeah also one thing

00:37:48.180 right i would love to be able to aspire to that myself i will say as well um as someone who

00:37:53.380 particularly enjoys language i know this is translated from italian but um there is a way

00:37:59.740 that this is written that really speaks to a confidence within the way it explains itself

00:38:05.420 philosophical confidence right i mean just go to identity for instance it's not an accessory

00:38:10.400 it is what keeps us standing italy is history language culture memory territories it belongs

00:38:16.700 it is belonging and continuity defending our identity means defending democratic sovereignty

00:38:22.440 the right to decide the ability to protect communities and borders identity also means

00:38:28.300 pride in made in italy and protection of what italy makes italy recognizable and respected across the

00:38:35.680 world i mean how could you disagree with this well you could be a communist oh yeah you'd have

00:38:41.840 to be a communist but yeah and this this could you could just pick this up as a template and

00:38:46.020 apply to any european country you could you could and then there's just one more i'll read from which

00:38:51.060 is traditions which he says traditions are roots not chains they are a guiding force and a heritage

00:38:56.380 to be cherished true integration means clear rules respecting reciprocity those who enter a home

00:39:02.680 respect it where there is no reciprocity there is no integration effective instruments and clear

00:39:08.480 cut choices are needed to defend order and security traditions also mean defending local

00:39:14.000 communities civil rights interestingly spelt r-i-t-e-s as opposed to possibly a translation

00:39:20.560 possibly uh or not who knows uh festivals and the territorial cultures that make up italy so

00:39:28.480 from the very beginning uh encouraging stuff but we also get to the fact now of the actual

00:39:33.700 ideological program um of the base of the party itself and this is why it's so important because

00:39:40.260 without doing the philosophical work to ground your party to explain why it is so important that

00:39:47.780 you exist and what it is that you're defending and what it is you're actually up against other

00:39:53.000 than just being like reform uk in this country of just one man yeah but also uh the system's just

00:39:59.940 being generally mismanaged right it's not really looking at how it has got to this point and why

00:40:06.820 certain ideologies have taken it to such conclusions but we see here from this the

00:40:12.500 time has come that the divine right that is within us in sleep of which pierre paolo pasolini

00:40:19.560 an intellectual who was not at all right wing but capable of great intuitions about the historical

00:40:25.420 conditions of the nation after the second world war was finally awakened may sleep and dreams

00:40:31.720 finally become the dawn of a new adventure,

00:40:34.660 that of an identitarian, pure, and vital right.

00:40:38.800 Futuro Nazionale was therefore born from the desire

00:40:44.020 to bring Italy back to its roots,

00:40:46.540 positioning it again on the path of its great history.

00:40:49.700 General Roberto Venacci, founder and president of the movement,

00:40:53.240 indicates the heart of the mission is to take the path

00:40:55.920 of returning to being quickly and without moderation,

00:40:59.040 an identity-based sovereign safe free and prosperous country now one thing that's so

00:41:05.180 important about this as well is the fact that wherever you go in the west these days whether

00:41:10.320 it's britain or australia or italy you just get the globalist package in the same way that the

00:41:16.960 left and the communists is kind of this one-size-fits-all mentality to it which is just

00:41:22.260 that actually anything idiosyncratic and therefore homely about a nation is actually just in the way

00:41:30.220 of true progress and actually what they're saying is no that is our very reason for being

00:41:36.960 those idiosyncrasies are sorry to interrupt yeah the the the idea that you need to ground a

00:41:44.220 political program in identity would have been alien to anyone for most of the 20th century and

00:41:49.560 before right no one even thought about it obviously we are the british and we are going to

00:41:55.140 have our conservative party our labor party or whatever parties and we're going to expect them

00:41:59.420 to do things that they say they're going to do but the the entire thing is predicated on the idea

00:42:05.900 that there is a shared national identity in this and it's only in the post-blare era for us and

00:42:11.580 you know in the this sort of time in italy that you would even need to articulate yes we're going

00:42:16.760 to have an italian identity for us as italians to recapture our own politics and it's the same

00:42:22.440 thing with restore britain it's the same thing probably with you know isn't there a like right

00:42:26.580 wing party in germany that's to the right of the afd that's doing the same thing it's obviously all

00:42:31.860 a part of the same symptom the same problem that is manifesting across the west and this is

00:42:36.520 obviously the the the symptom of the global managerial paradigm that just encompasses us

00:42:42.160 the great octopus in fact we'll get into octopuses in a bit um that is these are the same problems

00:42:47.840 we're all experiencing absolutely but also something that i do find quite optimistic about

00:42:52.680 this because at the end of the day obviously i don't know i've only just discovered this party

00:42:56.700 very recently but one thing that i do find about it uh which is very encouraging to me is the fact

00:43:03.760 that even though it can be incredibly dispiriting to constantly find yourself rug pulled and betrayed

00:43:09.480 time and time again there is becoming more and more of a habit on with continental politics

00:43:15.700 where it's like okay you betrayed us oh you were just more of the same are you well you're in the

00:43:20.100 dustbin too and on and on it goes and it's like we don't care how many parties micro parties pop-ups

00:43:26.600 we have to go through we are we will just clear you out until we get this thing that we keep

00:43:32.880 telling you to give us and which you keep refusing us and it doesn't matter how many political careers

00:43:38.240 are destroyed on it we will get this we will get remigration and you can see with how quickly this

00:43:43.980 party has risen in merely six months that energy that maloney presumably came in had a little word

00:43:51.640 with it's exactly i can contain it i can contain it don't want to contain it you weren't elected

00:43:57.780 to contain it you were elected to rebel against it and until they can understand this this will

00:44:04.880 keep happening until you until you understand you are a rebel against the global order in favor of

00:44:11.940 the national order then no as you say we're just going to keep going through party and party and

00:44:16.160 party on the right until eventually someone gets it and is prepared to just hold the hold the line

00:44:21.440 on that but also this is the other thing as well for every single time that this keeps happening

00:44:26.420 a one i mean a cynic might say that it's purity spiling another person might say what you're

00:44:33.060 actually getting is more and more of a refinement yes of the ideas itself it's not even purity

00:44:39.420 because the problem with the center right is that they are they they end on the same principle as

00:44:46.660 the left fundamentally they agree that actually we're all interchangeable and actually anyone

00:44:52.060 can become from anywhere if we just administratively make it so which is its own form of purity test

00:44:59.040 And it's also a form of globalism.

00:45:01.220 It's just, okay, well, you know, Nigel Farage,

00:45:04.000 oh, you've got to live in Wales for five to ten years

00:45:06.280 and pay taxes to be a Welshman.

00:45:07.840 It's like, no, no, that's just not true, Nigel.

00:45:11.480 But also on your point of refinement,

00:45:14.520 I mean, that's also on something like people like us.

00:45:18.520 And the phrasing that Carl just came up with is so on point there.

00:45:23.320 It was, you know, you've got to be for the national order

00:45:25.500 as opposed to the globalist order.

00:45:26.800 because what i think is happening in election after election in european

00:45:30.000 countries in this country included is people are voting against but they they

00:45:34.120 know something is wrong but they can't articulate exactly what it is

00:45:37.780 and they voted for brexit and they voted um you know the way they did it in the

00:45:42.200 previous elections and the by elections now

00:45:43.880 if they could have a succinct clear understanding

00:45:47.440 of what it is they're asking for yes and what it is they're against

00:45:51.320 then that makes that process so much easier i mean we did it was called

00:45:54.620 brexit like brexit was genuinely a parochial national insurrection against an international

00:46:02.060 but they were voting in a referendum they didn't necessarily they weren't necessarily okay these

00:46:07.640 are the key principles that i want to see happen and and i think what i liked about your phrasing

00:46:12.220 so much is if we can instill that in people they understand what that key things are then it makes

00:46:17.860 getting to this and restore and whatever else so much easier yeah i quite agree uh it goes on saying

00:46:23.540 it's a very long page so I'll just read from here

00:46:26.200 it says

00:46:53.540 the end of history prophesied by fukuyama turned out to be a great illusion does this guy watch

00:47:00.240 my channel or something like with italian sum yeah yeah this is everything i've been saying

00:47:05.820 yeah that's like five years the demographic crisis and migration migratory flows generate

00:47:12.500 tensions and uh and define a state of serious crisis for the existence of our society through

00:47:18.340 time is gk chesterton who's and this is one of the other things as well i love the fact that

00:47:23.480 all the writing it draws from the wellspring of western tradition and canon and philosophy and

00:47:28.000 thinkers you can sell that this is something uh being written by people who have a genuine love

00:47:33.360 for the things they profess to be defending as opposed to just seeing a political market

00:47:39.560 and saying i'm now going to skin suit that thing for my own expediency uh but as chesterson says

00:47:46.220 tradition may be defined as an extension of political law tradition means giving the vote

00:47:50.980 to the darkest of all classes, that of our ancestors.

00:47:54.800 Still keeping them in mind when we consider how we vote in the present,

00:47:59.920 because actually you didn't go through the Roman Empire,

00:48:03.780 you didn't go through all of the Italian republics,

00:48:06.520 you didn't go through the Grand Renaissance,

00:48:09.280 and you didn't go through the unification of Italy

00:48:12.080 just to hand Italy away to the Third World in the 21st century.

00:48:17.880 but also like the the the sort of chestertonian point of the democracy of the dead um you are the

00:48:25.120 inheritor of all of the accomplishments of the people who came before you yes that's why they

00:48:29.880 should get a say you live with the benefits they provided to you so you really should be thinking

00:48:35.680 about hey how can i preserve those and what benefits am i going to be providing to future

00:48:40.140 generations of my own absolutely i mean it's just so self-evident when you think about it like that

00:48:44.960 isn't it i mean you know i feel almost trite saying it but it's just not in the political

00:48:51.100 zeitgeist at the moment but but honestly it's not trite to say when so much of our

00:48:57.640 politics has been governed by the opposite inclination and this is why it's very important

00:49:03.220 actually for right-wing parties to just reassert it even if it sounds condescending to reassert

00:49:09.260 these basic truths you are you are not a self-authoring atomic individual who appeared

00:49:15.680 out of time and space in nowhere and just puffed into being that's just not how without obligations

00:49:21.100 to your fellow man and and the past that came before you um and so i suppose everyone wants

00:49:26.040 to know what uh they're thinking of re-migration great idea uh when it comes to this party so uh

00:49:32.440 for one thing from their actual website they just say absolute firmness against illegal immigration

00:49:37.280 mass immigration even if legal and the immigration of subjects characterized by cultures incompatible

00:49:43.800 with italian society and look at maloney oh actually this is a left-wing operation against

00:49:49.980 me no you are the left-wing operation yes you it's exactly the same argument farage is making

00:49:55.580 reform people are making against restore but exactly the same he's going to split the vote

00:50:00.580 by continuing to support all of these um incompatible demographics who have come into

00:50:09.740 to italy and protecting them being there even though the italian people didn't ask for them

00:50:15.140 you are doing the bidding of the left yes because the left want them there you are cementing

00:50:20.780 the victory of the left of your country exactly um so once again you see there's no genuine uh

00:50:27.720 principle in it anyway so all of this to say uh there's a really good set of policies in here as

00:50:33.240 well and for one of those things it's the fact that they say they want to have tax incentives

00:50:37.320 for the return of italians of productive age abroad and it's also envisioned as a document

00:50:43.420 that underlines how many italian citizens are now out in venezuela brazil argentina the same way

00:50:49.720 brits are in australia right and so it's also a system not just dedicated to um pushing out

00:50:57.140 repatriating those foreign inhabitants as i say are just simply incompatible but also bringing

00:51:03.120 italians italian diaspora back into italy in order that they might be able to revitalize

00:51:09.580 themselves and start their families again um and this is all very commendable i think this is a

00:51:14.600 good initiative and again i don't i mean they're invoking just sanguinius right once again it's

00:51:21.320 sanguineous the right of the blood so rather than oh yeah birthright um yeah lineage heritage

00:51:28.980 my mind went elsewhere rather than birthright citizenship so basically uh kemi baden or cat

00:51:33.380 on her ear okay um and it also uh goes on to point out as well that well uh no to the crime

00:51:41.700 of femicide yes to mediterranean patriarchy okay and here is finacci's program it says it wants

00:51:50.820 Futuro Nazionale

00:51:53.000 reiterates its

00:51:54.460 no to the autonomous figure

00:51:56.340 of the crime of femicide

00:51:58.140 now this was actually brought in

00:51:59.940 as a category just last year

00:52:02.860 oh okay

00:52:03.560 under Maloney

00:52:04.720 and it launches the

00:52:07.820 Mediterranean patriarchy

00:52:10.260 more generally he emphasizes

00:52:12.720 the quote

00:52:13.680 to stop the Gramscian reformulation

00:52:16.980 of law and the rhetoric

00:52:18.680 of the categories naturally

00:52:20.360 continuing to punish those who kill a woman with penalties up to a life imprisonment as we have

00:52:26.260 also done that is for murder anyone who kills a person whether male or female must be punished

00:52:31.880 without the need to distinguish between vericide and femicide reports the ideological and

00:52:38.640 programmatic basis of national future with a plan that they have for 27 to 37 because one of the

00:52:46.360 things it is obviously reacting to here is the Gramscian method of changing and reshaping

00:52:51.280 language. And you see this now, particularly with the, when the Mediterranean crisis first began,

00:52:59.440 everyone in power, though they used it seldom, would still use the words illegal. That word

00:53:05.500 has now become irregular. This is a word they have all used. This is the Gramscian transformation

00:53:10.300 of the language so that things can be framed in a way more palatable to those who want to set out

00:53:16.340 the terms and obviously therefore to their interest but actually they're not irregular

00:53:20.580 they are illegal they have always been illegal well i mean if you if you say irregular it

00:53:25.400 implies that they didn't actually do anything wrong but if you say illegal that is obviously

00:53:30.220 categorically incorrect it's like oh well they've got irregular there's something irregular about

00:53:35.220 their paperwork but other than that exactly it's like anything and it really is about

00:53:41.060 mind control that's why they did it but i love the fact that he's clearly been really paying

00:53:44.960 attention yeah to invoke all of this stuff it's like okay this guy has really been paying attention

00:53:50.100 to the this the fundamental issues with the substrate of the west he looks like he should

00:53:55.380 be in charge retired general yes yeah ex-paratrooper he goes on uh finally the educational

00:54:03.860 model of the left back patriarchy mediterranean patriarchy uh the educational model of the left

00:54:10.520 based on the ideology of the constant fight against patriarchy

00:54:14.040 is evidently a failure.

00:54:16.520 And where every trace of patriarchal society disappears,

00:54:21.200 a worrying increase in violence against women is spreading.

00:54:24.260 Totally true. It's so totally true.

00:54:26.440 All the numbers support this.

00:54:28.420 I covered, it was on the podcast the other day,

00:54:31.180 no, it was in the chat we had, wasn't it?

00:54:33.480 Where, if you go back 100 years,

00:54:35.960 the number of rapes in Britain is 500 rapes a year.

00:54:38.380 now it's 75 yeah you showed the chart the chart was flat flat flat flat like that barely it barely

00:54:44.660 registers because when when it's patriarchy fathers protect their daughters yes that's what it comes

00:54:49.720 down to because patriarchy for any ladies listening just means would you want your dad to be in charge

00:54:54.220 that's what that means patriarchy means rule of the father the dads are in charge way that's the

00:54:59.100 essential i i think the essential difference between left-wing women and right-wing women

00:55:02.620 is that left-wing women hate their father right-wing women like their father that's it

00:55:07.220 and he just concludes with

00:55:10.000 proof that we should protect and not criminalise

00:55:12.360 our model, that is, the Mediterranean

00:55:14.520 patriarchy aimed at

00:55:16.280 emphasising specificities

00:55:18.140 and training strong males

00:55:19.720 capable of dominating emotions

00:55:21.780 and passions, protecting women

00:55:23.780 and offering themselves for the construction

00:55:25.960 and defence of society

00:55:27.440 if this segment goes on any longer

00:55:29.760 I'm going to book a plane ticket to Italy and help him

00:55:31.960 campaign. Well, I do have

00:55:33.980 a little bit more left in the tank. He does have

00:55:36.000 my vote go easy luca now i just want to say everything we're about to watch now is not

00:55:42.000 official party uh they've taken the restored britain approach of this is what our enemies

00:55:47.300 say about us yes uh so what we seem to have here now this is an account that is obviously for one

00:55:52.300 of their way to put just a shit posting account which is great i am i'm a fan of such a thing

00:55:56.540 um and obviously for a for one that says we want to actually re-establish patriarchy

00:56:02.560 so that we can protect women perhaps these ads are not perhaps perfectly optical however

00:56:09.880 they're bloody hilarious and they caught my attention and as i say i'm i'm normally i try

00:56:15.740 to rise above i i really want to explain this i try to rise above ai slop it is not my cup of tea

00:56:22.500 i avoid it at all at all instances however sometimes it's good however the only the

00:56:28.640 anytime AI is good is for political commentary

00:56:30.840 that's it

00:56:31.180 che ben ragazzo

00:56:33.400 basta i ferga mia

00:56:35.740 you know what's so funny about this

00:56:50.580 there were so many of these

00:56:51.760 you know what's so funny about that in particular right

00:56:53.520 there was a democrat ad

00:56:55.740 attack ad on the republicans

00:56:57.280 you remember this republican congressman is going to be in your bedroom no masturbating right but

00:57:01.060 this guy's like yeah that's me get off that app i like to say they've said that they're not

00:57:07.500 connected to these campaigns at all but ultimately these these are things that people are just

00:57:12.380 creating they're like right i've read your policies yeah and if i were to visualize your

00:57:16.620 policy now in my head it looks like this especially when you've got talk of um reinstituting christian

00:57:24.020 values in Italy.

00:57:25.020 Non vedo l'ora che sia nostro.

00:57:31.020 Hai diritto ad una mamma e ad un papà.

00:57:42.020 There are like ten of these ladies and gentlemen.

00:57:46.020 Can we watch all ten?

00:57:48.020 I tell you what, we have this one, which one is this again?

00:57:53.020 All right, well apparently I just can't watch that one. How about this one? Just stop feminizing boys.

00:58:23.020 love it love it so um this is uh like i say i have no idea like what the action i don't know

00:58:34.200 if this is a leftist trying to trying to damage them i don't know if i think this must be their

00:58:38.540 fans i gotta tell you this is great energy from the italians i am the moment this podcast ends

00:58:45.360 i'm watching the other seven i'll send them your way please do uh but yeah there's about uh 10 of

00:58:50.180 them anyway all of this is really encouraging to me because it goes to show that there is

00:58:55.200 constant pressure uh forcing against right-wing pressure against the italian establishment

00:59:01.200 and even if people put their hopes in maloney and she turned out to be a colossal traitor well

00:59:07.100 don't forget there's always a more based general a retired general just around the corner to make

00:59:13.500 sure that things are actually done properly amazing anyway let's uh let's move on uh so

00:59:20.360 i wanted to talk about the circo theory of everything so chap on twitter called anglo

00:59:25.760 futurist party uh posted this and i thought it was really funny but also it is strangely revealing

00:59:32.880 about the infrastructure of globalism and how uh you are being taxed to pay for the global order

00:59:41.860 to literally replace you in your country

00:59:43.900 and make everything,

00:59:46.100 I don't like the word,

00:59:47.840 but to inshittify everything.

00:59:50.820 This is how this works.

00:59:52.980 And so he says,

00:59:54.440 well, you know,

00:59:55.480 the reason we're giving away the Chagos Islands

00:59:57.200 is to protect Serco.

00:59:58.360 Well, not quite,

00:59:59.680 but we'll come to that in a minute.

01:00:00.700 The reason why we're allowing

01:00:01.840 unlimited numbers of asylum seekers

01:00:03.260 is to enrich Serco.

01:00:04.520 The reason why the prison system

01:00:05.840 is completely messed up

01:00:06.760 is to enrich Serco.

01:00:08.760 The reason why PIP and disability claims

01:00:10.720 have been skyrocketing

01:00:11.500 is because of circo the reason the military is in crisis is because of circo uh the nhs sucks

01:00:18.080 because it's run by circo um well kind of right it's it's not that these things are being done

01:00:25.940 for circuit it's that circo is part of a network of private companies that are service providing

01:00:32.380 companies the government's just okay we'll allow you to bid for contracts and we will outsource

01:00:38.140 this all to you because it i mean literally like having uh a massive network of butlers

01:00:44.780 who will work for you and so the government just is like okay great yeah do all the stupid stuff

01:00:49.320 we want done but that creates this massive infrastructure of private corporation yes

01:00:54.600 that is uh destroying our country funded by the taxpayer what what it sounds like to me is in

01:01:00.760 in cromwell's time he had to defeat the king's army in order to take power do we need to defeat

01:01:05.960 circo well are they effectively the the bureaucratic states army at this point they're not an army

01:01:11.700 obviously because they're a private company no but fulfilling the same function no not quite

01:01:15.620 they're fulfilling the function that the um actual governments would themselves have done

01:01:21.460 in previous years right and that naturally if the government has to manually organize prisons

01:01:27.160 you know bureaucracy all this sort of stuff um yeah then the number of services the government

01:01:31.680 is going to provide are going to be far smaller because the government is just

01:01:34.260 okay we've got to get it done ourselves how much of it do you really want to do well i'd rather

01:01:38.280 just pay someone else to do it well and there was a strain of political thought which is um

01:01:42.680 big state and big corporations working together in unity yes and that is very definitely happening

01:01:48.880 in this case um anyway but before we carry on uh if you want more uh realpolitik as in

01:01:55.120 do you want to know more about the way that the actual infrastructure of globalism and the world

01:01:59.380 works go and watch for as a show realpolitik is one of my personal favorites because he covers

01:02:04.160 things that I just don't have time to go and research myself.

01:02:07.900 So sign up for £5 a month, go watch that.

01:02:09.780 So, what is Serco?

01:02:11.800 So, Serco was founded in 1929

01:02:14.260 when the American electronics giant Radio Corporation of America

01:02:18.440 established a limited company in Britain.

01:02:21.120 During the Second World War,

01:02:22.840 the company's expertise was brought in

01:02:25.300 to supply the British military

01:02:27.420 with various kinds of radio equipment, electronics.

01:02:29.700 and a contract came with raf flying filling dales in yorkshire where they actually became

01:02:38.860 responsible for maintaining and supporting the facility that the raf had there and this changed

01:02:44.080 the character of the business so instead of just providing material it started providing services

01:02:49.220 and it became apparent that oh well if the government if you're a company that provides

01:02:53.860 services to a government and governments change over time but there's always going to be with

01:02:59.180 government you are on to a winner forever why be a politician who can be voted out when you can be

01:03:05.600 an executive at circo well it's not so much about control it's about money making right as far as i

01:03:11.140 can tell circo i mean circo itself is owned by blackrock vanguard all of those uh in financial

01:03:19.140 international capital organizations right i didn't actually get the list up but it's just every

01:03:23.640 single one you can name has like a three or four percent stake in circle with blackrock being the

01:03:29.600 largest at about nine percent right so but it's it's it's so it's it's not strictly about control

01:03:35.060 it's about making sure that globalism can work and what's really good for circle but bad for

01:03:42.200 everyone else is that okay when a government changes instead of having a government institution

01:03:48.080 that you are in control of what you have are contracts with private companies and there are

01:03:53.320 And Serco just usually wins the contract.

01:03:55.400 Well, not even that they usually win the contract.

01:03:57.300 There are other bigger ones that we'll get to in a bit.

01:04:01.340 But the point is, A, you've got a contract with that company,

01:04:05.200 so you have to then cancel the contract

01:04:06.940 and go through all the legal clauses on cancelling the contract.

01:04:09.620 Oh, it costs extra money.

01:04:10.700 Oh, right, locking it in then.

01:04:12.000 But also, yeah, okay, why would you want to bother?

01:04:16.120 What's happening?

01:04:16.960 Well, Serco deals with that, this company deals with that,

01:04:20.120 Serco deals with these, and they make sure,

01:04:22.180 and they've got certain, you know, service delivery standards

01:04:25.140 they have to appeal to and satisfy.

01:04:28.580 And yeah, in the last quarter, they satisfied these.

01:04:31.340 So, okay, why do anything?

01:04:34.000 Why would you bother messing around with the infrastructure?

01:04:36.400 Could they run a deportation camp for us?

01:04:38.180 They absolutely could and would if we were to pay them.

01:04:40.800 They don't care.

01:04:42.000 They are not, as far as I can find, an ideological organization at all.

01:04:48.160 Anyway, in the 1970s and 80s,

01:04:50.560 the company realized that the real money-making capacity

01:04:54.020 was not actually in providing and designing equipment for them,

01:04:57.580 but just providing services surrounding complicated government operations.

01:05:01.560 And, of course, during the 80s, you had Margaret Thatcher,

01:05:05.340 who was like, yes, no, I want the private sector to do everything.

01:05:09.180 It's like, okay, but if you get in the private sector

01:05:10.440 to do everything with government money,

01:05:11.920 in what sense is it the private sector?

01:05:14.340 Like, if it was earning its own money, sure,

01:05:17.460 but you're just working for the government

01:05:19.040 with a middleman in the middle you may as well have a national government doing that thing

01:05:24.660 rather than paying someone else oh well i i know the answer to that go on it's because

01:05:29.500 as a share of gdp the british state is already like almost 50 percent if you add in all of these

01:05:37.240 contract type companies as well you would actually realize that the british state is something like

01:05:41.760 60 to 70 percent of gdp in this quite quite possibly versus china which is a communist

01:05:47.620 country at 26 but that's what happens when the the government has to do the things itself

01:05:55.460 yeah it's just it's just i mean again you get what you incentivize so i'm going to pay you to

01:06:00.700 do things oh suddenly i've got a lot of people want me to pay them to do things and i've got

01:06:03.940 british taxpayer money so why do i care there is also and has been for a while now a natural

01:06:08.240 inclination amongst politicians to obviously distance accountability away from themselves

01:06:13.060 this is why of course i love the eu so much as well because we're able to say oh well that's

01:06:17.640 a brussels thing it's nothing to do with me yeah and and you're exactly right it takes the

01:06:21.520 responsibility out of the hands of the politicians well this is a contract we inherited what was i

01:06:25.180 supposed to do if i cancel this contract then that nhs exactly hospital goes down and you know what

01:06:29.720 what do i do i've got to go sounds good to me well well yeah but you're not the person in the

01:06:35.500 a Labour or Conservative politician in government.

01:06:37.840 But also, it means that they can say,

01:06:40.200 oh, Serco did something wrong, right,

01:06:41.580 you'll find 15 million or you'll find 10 million here and there.

01:06:44.680 But what does that actually change?

01:06:45.960 Serco's, okay, well, it's your money you're giving me to do.

01:06:48.260 Right.

01:06:48.700 So I'll just give you that money back.

01:06:50.500 You know, I don't care.

01:06:52.700 Like, what does it make to them?

01:06:54.340 I'll be here longer than you will.

01:06:56.260 Exactly.

01:06:56.840 I will outlast all of these governments.

01:06:58.360 And like something, originally, the company was founded in 1929,

01:07:02.180 um but it was bought in the mid 1980s and then renamed uh circo just means services company

01:07:09.040 by the way it's an abbreviation of services company uh and of course the thatcher government

01:07:14.080 loved the idea because they were like great okay yeah we'll just farm all of this out to you uh

01:07:19.440 they began with their initial revenue about 47 million but that's grown to about 5 billion now

01:07:24.980 of course and they are like i said one of many uh new labor continually substantially expanded

01:07:31.620 it continued and substantially expanded the use of private sector contractors which is one of the

01:07:36.060 left's complaints is oh the nhs is privately owned it's not it just spends a lot of money on these

01:07:41.940 service companies like the nhs is still actually nationally owned it's just easier because these

01:07:48.200 guys are like hey we'll do that for you and so they're just okay whatever they pay through the

01:07:52.460 nose for these companies oh yeah but they're just too incompetent to do it themselves yeah if you

01:07:57.900 had a very experienced and disciplined team of people who understood how hospitals worked how

01:08:05.300 the nhs infrastructure worked then you could doubtless do this for like a third of the price

01:08:10.560 right oh yeah i mean there's another company like this called um synergy healthcare it was a former

01:08:16.300 surgeon who basically left the nhs and set up a business that does two things it does the laundry

01:08:22.620 coming out of surgeries and the um you the the scalpel cleaning and all the equipment cleaning

01:08:28.040 and stuff and yeah i mean he makes an enormous profit just by basically undercutting what the

01:08:33.680 nhs cost to do it themselves um but doing it more efficiently and opening up like a 40 profit margin

01:08:39.840 thank you yeah so you like you know the nhs doesn't have to cost that much but we're useless

01:08:44.900 anyway in the early 2010s uh it became apparent the circle was deeply embedded in british

01:08:49.480 administration and was quipped as being called the company the biggest company you've never heard of

01:08:54.380 they're particularly prominent in justice and immigration and they are an unusually government

01:08:59.240 dependent multinational corporation because they don't just operate in britain why would you why

01:09:04.260 would you just serve the british government no they're uk europe north america asia pacific and

01:09:09.540 the middle east but the headquarters are in hampshire so i suppose that's a british success

01:09:14.220 story um and i mean it was run for the last decade until very recently until 2025 by winston

01:09:22.320 churchill's grandfather grandson tory wet yeah yeah uh rupert soames so you you can see exactly

01:09:30.160 the sort of intertwining of these things why wouldn't you have a tory wet running the company

01:09:36.580 that provides the globalist infrastructure for all the projects that the british state now feels

01:09:41.140 as to accomplish right um so yeah the numbers uh they're quite public i mean it's all very public

01:09:47.740 stuff right so they um last year they had a revenue of uh 4.876 billion pounds or slightly

01:09:55.840 more depending on various how you count it um and their core sectors are of course defense justice

01:10:00.420 and immigration transport health and other facilities and citizen services contributing

01:10:05.840 to the well-being of citizens and communities oh god i feel so contributing to replacing citizens

01:10:10.680 well yes actually i mean that's what the justice and immigration is all about

01:10:14.460 but the point is that circo starts taking on the feeling the aspect of the company in the movie

01:10:21.580 alien aliens so the company has said this okay or like the sort of east india company sort of style

01:10:28.120 uh or like the the corporation in robocop right it's that kind of capitalism that we're dealing

01:10:34.160 with is the reason why the corporation in aliens trying to get the alien back is because they're

01:10:39.240 paid per visa uh there's another one well they they want to study it and make profit out of it

01:10:46.760 obviously um we've got the uh the profits for the first half year which is on page five here

01:10:51.680 um it's a stronger year than previously um they're uh they're up 2.5 billion so they'll be

01:10:57.960 over 5 billion this year so they're doing better than before so good for them and like i said there

01:11:02.860 are loads of companies like this right so there's bae systems sodexo balfour betty bt atkins realist

01:11:11.260 kbr sopris terra miti babcock international kia is another one and they're all uh multi-billion

01:11:18.900 pound companies that work with the government and bid with the government for contracts to provide

01:11:24.920 infrastructure and services for britain and other countries because there's no reason they need to

01:11:29.340 be uh locked into britain so getting back to anglo futurists uh thing um are we giving away

01:11:36.920 the chagos islands to protect the contract i mean purportedly not but we are giving away the chagos

01:11:45.700 islands and they do have a substantial contract that they won there from the americans um and i

01:11:52.940 don't know whether that's going to protect it or not i have no idea but i mean i assume that they

01:11:56.300 going to lose it um but they'll be performing space observation including operating telescopes

01:12:00.860 maintaining and supporting the systems and logging reporting findings in the combined space

01:12:04.940 operations center whilst we're dismantling ours in our own country yeah and that's because we can't

01:12:10.860 afford to give them two million a year yeah i mean yeah it was exactly correct um but i mean this

01:12:16.860 this was money they uh got from the american government so that's something uh then you've

01:12:20.780 got the uh home office asylum accommodation contracts and yeah it's on page 14 they they

01:12:27.660 just give us a breakdown in fact um can we make that a bit bigger please samson just so it's easy

01:12:31.820 to see um i'll move that cross because i'm useless right there we go um there's a there is a there we

01:12:42.060 go right so you can see uh how they break it down so in 2019 the home office was like oh we've got

01:12:49.340 got all of these foreigners coming over uh we'll put aside 4.5 billion and dole out to clear springs

01:12:55.280 circo and mears circo got 2.1 billion out of this which is a hell of good but in 2025 this was

01:13:02.240 re-estimated at 15.3 billion so you can see how that's costing you and circo's share has gone up

01:13:08.840 to about five and a half billion out of that uh you can see clear springs is making seven billion

01:13:13.860 in the south uh and in the northeast you've got mears which is getting at 1.5 billion so about two

01:13:18.960 and a half billion there um so you can see this is just this is the way it is i used to invest in

01:13:26.180 meers 20 years ago i should have held that position maybe you should i mean for example

01:13:30.560 uh for the annual estimate spend on immigration asylum contracts and all the supports so you know

01:13:37.140 when those guys are breaking into the or walk not breaking just walking into the asylum hotels

01:13:40.720 you see all the food that's been laid out and stuff like that well that's these contracts right

01:13:44.760 that's this money this so they they were like yeah we've got 1.67 million a billion that we're

01:13:48.800 spending so i remember having a conversation with the guys who ran mears whether it was 20 25 years

01:13:54.040 ago um and and they were saying yeah it's great because basically what happens is that is is i

01:13:59.660 mean back then there weren't that many migrants but there were still some and what they were doing

01:14:03.860 is they say okay well we set up this this house for them we put them in and you can pretty much

01:14:08.920 guarantee that the boiler gets ripped out and all the copper wiring and our contract says we have

01:14:14.220 to replace it so we replace it charges government that gets ripped out we replace it again just

01:14:19.580 keeps doing that all the time yeah and very similar to the sort of process they had during

01:14:24.060 the iraq war do you remember when the the military equipment destroyed they had uh the cost of it

01:14:28.460 plus a certain percentage that they would give the military so the military was just burning

01:14:33.040 tankers in bloody iraq so i'm like yeah no let's get a new one from the the government and they'll

01:14:37.460 right like you know they'll just pay us that and some of the cost on top of it anyway so as you

01:14:41.740 see for just 24 to 25 this is 1.6 billion and out of that circo got about half a billion you know

01:14:49.120 this is just and this is paying for all of these people this is how this money is getting there

01:14:52.640 the government is just pissing this money away and so actually this would all be very easy to

01:14:57.700 clear up because you say okay circo we're not renewing any of these contracts you're not getting

01:15:01.400 any of this money and they'd be like okay we'll just stop working on it then you know with no

01:15:05.600 more money of other countries out there well exactly it would just be okay well that's just

01:15:09.820 a contract that's ended and we don't we haven't had renewed and of course we you know we've got

01:15:13.040 hundreds still arriving every day although i guess the weather has been brilliant recently

01:15:17.240 because only 600 this week only 600 small mercies yeah i saw uh andy burnham on twitter bragging

01:15:23.080 yeah i've got it down guys it's like well one i think most of it's due to the weather and two

01:15:27.160 it's still happening so shut up uh anyway point three um the prison system is wrecked and we

01:15:32.960 import offices to enrich circo yet circo does run a bunch of private prisons and uh we do

01:15:38.660 award loads of contracts to them uh i mean in fact they tell us this they could they operate

01:15:44.780 five private prisons across britain uh ashfield fossway thameside doncaster and dovegate they

01:15:51.840 also manage four of the largest prisons in australia and new zealand uh where they have

01:15:55.660 4 000 prisoners uh i think i might be in total actually 4 000 prisoners but um but the point

01:16:01.800 is yes we we spend billions on private prisons done by circo because the government like oh we

01:16:06.820 need prisons well then just pay circo more oh no we've got to the point now we've decided that's

01:16:11.680 too much we're just gonna let a bunch of prisons out it's like can't we just build our own prisons

01:16:15.360 anyway so this is the one bit of circo revenue i want to see go up yeah it's the one bit that

01:16:20.540 would actually make a bit of sense right like okay fine you know if we've got a bunch and it

01:16:26.120 goes to show you how easy it would be as well all they need to do is rotate some money out of

01:16:30.040 something else and say okay we're building 12 new prisons circo you're running them get on with it

01:16:34.300 Serco, you're running deportation camps.

01:16:36.300 Yeah.

01:16:37.420 That's your job.

01:16:38.920 Here's the process.

01:16:40.040 Make it happen.

01:16:40.640 It's like, well, take the money.

01:16:41.780 20-year contract.

01:16:43.040 Yeah.

01:16:44.200 Exactly, right?

01:16:45.500 You get a tiny fee for each one you're processing

01:16:47.860 and a huge bonus for each one that actually leaves.

01:16:50.620 Exactly.

01:16:51.380 And you absolutely could incentivize them that way,

01:16:53.760 and that's how this would be done.

01:16:55.480 The next one is a PIP.

01:16:58.660 Disability claims are skyrocketing.

01:17:00.200 Yep, because Serco is delivering the health assessment

01:17:04.000 advisory service service for pip and various other work capability assessments and specialist

01:17:10.360 benefits in the southwest and south central england there are other companies who do it in

01:17:14.840 the midlands and the north and scotland and wales right so it it is it is technically not true

01:17:20.840 that it's because only of serco the pip claims are exploding but they are being paid to help

01:17:27.180 people get those pip claims right in the southwest and south central england other regions use

01:17:33.340 companies like capital or igneous ingeous i think i don't know how it's pronounced but the point is

01:17:38.700 yes there are private contracting companies the government is paying to help people claim

01:17:42.880 disabilities and benefits that is true that is actually happening it's a free market bro and

01:17:48.380 and the profit maximizing function would be to make sure that as many people as possible did

01:17:52.920 literally no reason not to you're justifying your own existence if like hardly anyone signs up

01:17:58.880 through your service why am i using this service why would i continue this contract you only had

01:18:04.160 like you know out of all the of all the people you spoke to only seven percent of them went on

01:18:07.900 to claim what was the waste what a waste of money that would be you know but if like 40 i don't know

01:18:12.160 what the actual numbers are go on to claim oh there's a real issue here that this company's

01:18:15.880 doing a good service for us of course we're going to use it so uh the next one is the military is

01:18:20.660 in crisis because of circle now i don't know i don't think that's true um i i don't i'm sure

01:18:26.620 But the thing is, right, I'm sure Serco is doing the job that they're paid to do.

01:18:31.020 Because as we saw from the guys who walked into the asylum hotels,

01:18:36.300 they were great.

01:18:37.640 They were getting great food.

01:18:39.060 You know, literally buffets and pancakes.

01:18:40.240 Yeah, they were.

01:18:41.080 The hotels were clean.

01:18:42.480 You know, it's like, I don't think there's anything wrong with the labor that Serco is supporting.

01:18:45.880 I did spend a day on a MOD barracks, an army barracks.

01:18:50.420 Oh, yeah.

01:18:50.680 And I ate in their canteen.

01:18:52.160 The food was bloody horrific.

01:18:53.420 Well, yeah, but that's military food.

01:18:55.320 Always been horrific.

01:18:56.620 i think we should be feeding our soldiers at least as well as our immigrants i would i would

01:19:02.480 say better but yes i but yeah but you are right the the food is not brilliant on a military basis

01:19:07.080 but anyway yeah so um it's unclear how much exactly circo is getting but as i say could be worth up

01:19:14.220 to 1.5 billion in military contracts that circo has um they do lots of different stuff uh like

01:19:20.620 the army's holistic health and fitness training system uh they repair and maintain our fleet

01:19:27.380 of apparently 512 marine vessels there's not ships right well yeah just any vessel so they're

01:19:34.240 running a bit thin these days yeah exactly um uh they get money from the u.s army as well they do

01:19:39.460 the same thing with the canadian air force and the australian navy although these contracts are not

01:19:43.760 that big you know 90 million dollars 80 million pounds pocket change well compared to the amount

01:19:49.500 that's being spent no no quite you know you know uh and then finally uh the nhs sucks because of

01:19:55.900 circo well circo circo has seven and a half thousand contracts for services worth 29.1

01:20:03.660 billion uh with the nhs so i don't know how it's calculated because i would have thought okay well

01:20:09.220 the turnover is five billion but i think it's through subsidiary companies right so like i said

01:20:15.860 i'm not sure but according to weownit.org.uk uh oh no sorry i know it is right so the the 29.1

01:20:23.440 billion is not just circo it's all of the service companies the nhs is spending nearly 30 billion

01:20:30.360 farming out a load of um operations and circo is one of those companies because of course

01:20:35.940 it's a free market bro um these include uh hospital particularly for circo it's large

01:20:43.140 hospital facilities um so uh they have it's they they estimate three to five um but it's not clear

01:20:51.320 um but anyway uh they have the 270 million 10-year contract renewal for the norfolk norwich

01:20:58.180 university hospital nhs foundation trust and hold a 128 million pound catering and

01:21:04.020 cleanering contract with university hospital southampton nhs foundation trust they've got

01:21:09.160 various other networks and things like this but um so yeah they are embedded in the nhs that is

01:21:15.980 true i don't think that's the reason the nhs is bad though i think the reason the nhs is bad is

01:21:21.340 because of insane top heavy administration that is wasting a gargantuan amount of money that should

01:21:27.600 be going on actually the resources and actual doctors and nurses rather than and of course um

01:21:35.280 you know being um sandwiched as well by the just excessive pressure from the bottom as well of the

01:21:40.820 demand of yes uh the migrants so my my mother was a nurse i mean she's retired now but years ago she

01:21:46.460 used to tell me so many insane stories about working in a hospital like when she tried to

01:21:50.280 change a light bulb but got stopped because they had to call out a man from circo to change the

01:21:54.240 light bulb and he would charge a 50 pound call out fee yeah it's mad isn't it that's insane it's all

01:21:59.760 yeah but it's all regulatory uh because that's the system that the blairite administration brought

01:22:06.560 in everything regulated everything and that's why these companies they don't you know they're

01:22:12.240 they're paid to follow the regulations but that's their job so they follow the regulations to the

01:22:17.540 letter even if the regulations are stupid who cares you know what what this is doing is it you

01:22:24.520 know making sure there's only a certain number of companies that could really reasonably win any of

01:22:28.820 these contracts because they've got to fill this thing so the whole thing is kind of sewn up and

01:22:32.960 this is the infrastructure of globalism and so the the claim at the end circo is the british state

01:22:38.320 well the the who benefits of it is a real question and in a in a kind of uh in a tangible and serious

01:22:47.540 way this private infrastructure is the british state in operation right when when someone in

01:22:54.600 westminster says right okay i'd like that done well put a contract out that they can bid for and

01:22:59.160 then they'll do it um that that is true that is the infrastructure of the british state it's the

01:23:03.680 east india company of the day the facilitator it is yeah um and but to say the purpose of the

01:23:11.400 british state is circo i don't think that's correct it's just circo just happens to pop up

01:23:17.020 under everything the british state is doing and i'm using circo again as the as a representative

01:23:21.300 of the entire network of this octopus of organizations um but i think that actually

01:23:27.940 the power still resides in westminster it's just the politicians are actually just really lazy like

01:23:33.220 i was saying earlier well i've inherited this really this web of really complex contracts that

01:23:36.960 i don't oh god just just let them do their thing you know so let them do their thing why why would

01:23:41.840 you want to get involved in that but if you did want to get involved you just get right contract

01:23:46.420 for deportation camps the contract for this contract for that yeah you know so it's not that

01:23:51.280 the ability to move is not there it's the will is not there so anyway that's what circo is

01:23:58.780 um let's uh we've got video comments today samson

01:24:02.040 uh amandine says too many people are making bank by allowing migrants to flood the country and they

01:24:08.640 will try to protect their income stream that's it's true and i'm sure that circo's um you know

01:24:14.300 ceos and directors and whatnot all have close ties with government ministers and the civil service

01:24:21.340 because obviously they all work together so i'm sure this is all intermeshed but it's it's not

01:24:26.140 something i can see from the outside just by google searching so i can only provide you with

01:24:30.860 what i can see here really um logan says hey thank you take a look california newsom just launched

01:24:35.800 new healthcare that paid him five million dollars and raised the budget by 400 million million so

01:24:40.380 400 billion is that i don't know what's happened there but uh i haven't seen it yeah we're thinking

01:24:46.880 anyway michael says uh if frage isn't a guaranteed 10 uh he will ditch reform like a crashing

01:24:52.920 aircraft yeah well he's done it before like well not not just the airplane but just a bailing when

01:25:00.800 uh right you know job done i don't i don't need to do these things anymore um he seems like a

01:25:06.040 self-serving lazy coward well i didn't say that uh and he also says this just proves that english

01:25:10.440 politics is far more fun than us politics like an advanced chess game with multiple layers

01:25:14.920 compared to the us where ours is just a retarded check that's actually a really good point because

01:25:18.440 because the republicans versus democrats i mean you know it's going to be one of them

01:25:22.580 you know it's going to be them for the next 40 50 years but with our one it's this shifting

01:25:27.260 network of alliances hasn't it been the republicans and the democrats since the civil war

01:25:32.140 yes so since like 1867 they've had the same two parties he's right actually that's a really good

01:25:41.020 point i never thought of it like that that's horrific and also as well seems to be nowhere

01:25:45.700 near breaking anytime soon either no cost says restore needs to get his ground game and message

01:25:51.280 sorted out howard cox needs to go and we have to have a consistent message for our branches to

01:25:55.300 propagate i was at the inaugural northampton branch meeting and it was clear in the room

01:25:59.600 that the vision was all over the place

01:26:01.240 and Charlie Downs is rapidly becoming our natural leader

01:26:03.460 yeah it definitely needs to

01:26:05.520 be able to thread a series

01:26:07.640 of complex needles which is

01:26:09.460 difficult to do but needs to be

01:26:11.480 done as soon as possible

01:26:13.060 Charlie is doing well though he is doing great job

01:26:15.220 and actually going back to your point Luca

01:26:17.160 about how the Republicans and Democrats doesn't show

01:26:19.480 any sign of changing we just put that

01:26:21.420 inspected right Elon Musk

01:26:23.000 he spent that year flirting with an

01:26:25.320 American first party and he

01:26:27.480 decided it was easier to land on the

01:26:29.260 land on mars instead i mean when you put it like that it really does yeah present itself pretty

01:26:36.760 stark uh the tories are on the rise largely because they've adopted the lib dem shut the

01:26:41.280 f up and just exist in the shires uh is exactly the same approach starmer took in the run-up to

01:26:45.520 2024 we seem to be approaching a point where we've become a country of voting against the losers

01:26:49.640 instead of voting for the winners totally true totally true justin says it was considered racist

01:26:57.920 particularly in america uh but i never oh the word oriental but i never stopped calling them

01:27:02.780 orientals i prefer a different way to differentiate them from the south asians since they've co-opted

01:27:06.720 the name yeah i mean i never i know i always viewed the term oriental in to the the the

01:27:14.080 the implications of the term oriental are like high chinese culture you know and high japanese

01:27:20.260 culture where it's about beauty and specificity it's about like you know high education well i

01:27:26.880 standards. I never doubted that, but there was definitely

01:27:28.900 a push to make it super racist

01:27:30.920 at one point. Absolutely, but I just didn't understand it.

01:27:33.020 And I remember being quite young and not understanding

01:27:34.920 why. Because whenever someone says that it's

01:27:36.820 Oriental, you think, you know, beautiful

01:27:38.600 painting of a Chinese dragon. Yeah, absolutely.

01:27:41.300 Something worth venerating. Yeah, exactly.

01:27:43.200 How is that bad?

01:27:44.760 But also as well, we're Occidental,

01:27:47.000 aren't we? Yes, we are, yeah.

01:27:48.280 Just the Westerns and the Easterns.

01:27:50.580 Yes. And Occident, again,

01:27:52.520 is a nice sounding word. It makes it sound

01:27:53.980 interesting in the series. Saying Eastern in

01:27:56.140 it's not particularly an offensive thing to say when you're in the east yeah and and like i said

01:28:02.260 i i always liked the word and i always thought it had positive um intonations omar says you can

01:28:07.400 see how children affect the mentality of the community by spreading spreading pictures of

01:28:11.220 lindsey clancy's kids around her supporters like some kind of natural hag bane when holding a baby

01:28:16.740 hits a feminist factory reset removing proximity to children has done incalculable damage to the

01:28:21.660 modern world yeah that's so totally true i saw um someone uh saying look there there is

01:28:27.240 there is um a memetic judo flip we can do here on the lindsey clancy stuff we can say that she's a

01:28:35.460 babe we can say she's hot we can say that we like her and then all of her hag-like supporters were

01:28:42.320 like oh god men like that i'm ashamed to admit the idea has merit i know i don't like it either

01:28:49.800 the idea has merit i mean she's not but like it's it's darkly true i think they would if they

01:28:57.600 thought men were lusting over her i mean the other thing that occurs right is that they obviously

01:29:02.740 don't believe that her husband killed those kids otherwise because sending him love letters yeah

01:29:07.400 right yeah yeah yeah henry says i feel like mediterranean patriarchy is another way of

01:29:13.120 saying rule in a way that would make my nana proud uh yeah well again it's it's the rule of

01:29:17.880 your grandfather or your father that's all that means maloney is just boris johnson she's just

01:29:22.880 more pleasant to look at as opposed to looking like the mutant offspring of a cave troll and

01:29:26.820 an orangutan yeah that's totally true it's not all that i i i don't know if she saw it

01:29:32.480 maria's still next to mertz in germany sure stood next to rachel reeves i know which one i'll go for

01:29:39.340 well yeah obviously rachel reeves but like

01:29:41.600 anyway maria says circo it's patriotism what are you talking about

01:29:50.940 you know you can criticize rachel so many things but she's one of ours uh circo and capta are the

01:29:57.580 worst and have been for decades uh fatty so maze should have been kicked out of parliament decades

01:30:02.440 ago getting the only one in the contractor's pockets yeah i mean it's obviously it's going

01:30:06.520 to be an incestuous thing but the point is there are companies that we can pay them to do things

01:30:10.560 so i mean at the moment it is being used the infrastructure of globalism but it could be used

01:30:15.060 the infrastructure of nationalism uh richard says you would think with such a low birth rate

01:30:20.000 governments would do everything to increase the people's willingness to have children

01:30:22.440 well it's actually way easier just to import foreigners it's way easier like literally just

01:30:27.320 just come in we'll give you money it's just so much easier for them they start in their 20s

01:30:32.040 you don't have to educate them in anything yeah and alex says luca loved your chronicles on

01:30:36.280 perilandra it was everything i'd hoped for albeit i left a comment about one point you missed i'm

01:30:41.760 nearing the end of that hideous strength and i hope many more will read it as the message is so

01:30:45.480 very very relevant to our times and the confusion of language seems to permeate academia media

01:30:50.180 right okay oh well thank you alex it's very kind really glad you enjoyed it and yes uh that hideous

01:30:54.700 strength won't be too far away either i haven't actually read it so it's fantastic i've heard this

01:31:00.320 yeah really uh anyway we are out of time there folks so thank you for joining us if you want

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - September 03, 2026

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1498

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