The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1513

00:00:00.000 Hi folks, welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for Thursday the 24th of September

00:00:03.900 2026. I'm John McFerris, Dan and Silla from Voice of Wales and today we're going to be

00:00:09.220 talking about the purpose of the system. It appears to be non-stop immigration no matter

00:00:14.000 what you do about it. We're going to be talking about how socialism is taking over Wales and

00:00:19.060 how Labour are creating, and I realise it's kind of gorsh to say this, but Labour are

00:00:24.460 actually creating a national ministry of truth for britain yes um we've like it's really kind of

00:00:31.360 passe to make orwell references at this point because of course they're all correct but we've

00:00:36.640 been making them for so many years there's just no point oh yeah yeah everyone knows it's orwellian

00:00:40.220 yeah we live in norwellian world but this is like weird rarefication of the orwellian nature of the

00:00:46.380 current political system so uh we'll be going through that as well so right let's let's begin

00:00:51.880 So the other day, Danny Tomo went to Dover and then he went to Portsmouth

00:00:57.780 and successfully blocked the RNLI, I can't remember what that stands for,

00:01:05.040 but the charity that picks up people who are lost at sea,

00:01:09.800 and that means illegals crossing the channel from France,

00:01:13.660 and prevented them from dumping them on British beaches, which is nice.

00:01:17.460 It was unusual.

00:01:18.380 And he did it without breaking the law.

00:01:20.580 He did it without causing any trouble, at least legal trouble, and it was peaceful and it was a very respectable protest.

00:01:27.920 Things have escalated somewhat and Danny Tomo has been arrested.

00:01:33.440 So as you can see from LBC here, he used a knife to slash a small boat in the channel with a rescue worker on board.

00:01:40.980 now this was in my opinion not exactly a wise thing to do because this will be construed

00:01:48.980 as all sorts of things that it probably wasn't and we actually have the video here which we'll

00:01:54.980 watch and get around it then there's no margins on it now go on it's english waters quick quick quick

00:02:00.900 all right we're in english territory this is england this is not france anymore okay

00:02:10.980 get off the boat get off the boat get off the boat you've got time to get off the boat

00:02:22.220 i don't know why that video is playing so poorly but anyway so as you can see this is danny tomo

00:02:32.060 taking an affirmative action to damage a piece of property and i think it will be construed

00:02:38.120 in the courts that he was trying to endanger the lives of the people on the boat um this which he

00:02:44.700 clearly wasn't because he was saying get off the boat yeah he yeah exactly whether whether you know

00:02:49.720 whether your own eyes tell you this or not is irrelevant it's what they're going to argue in

00:02:53.920 the courts and it's what the judge wants to accept in order to make an example of danny tomo

00:02:58.940 now this kind of endangerment can carry a life sentence in prison so it's pretty serious and

00:03:06.040 i gotta say not the wisest move um i thought his protest was very very effective when it was

00:03:12.640 neutral and uh not aggressive in this way because it made the point and it got the job done and they

00:03:21.200 prevented getting in trouble with the law um in fact there was a another protest they did where

00:03:25.360 they gave a dispersal order and danny tomo dispersed in line with the law um i think that

00:03:30.940 that was actually a good idea because of course we aren't in a position where you making um

00:03:38.960 protests outside of the law has any sympathy within the ruling class of britain they don't

00:03:44.620 care they will just use that to hammer you as much as they can which means you're taken out

00:03:50.100 of action for god only that's how long and you cannot carry on putting pressure on the regime

00:03:54.700 so there's no point being a martyr to these people because honestly in a way they're kind

00:03:59.300 of like the fascists in that the martyrs just disappear that's it they're gone there's no

00:04:04.420 martyrdom to be had really um anyway so yeah he was he was arrested according to the hampshire

00:04:09.120 police um they've arrested him and five other people following incidents in gosport because

00:04:14.980 that's where they thought the migrants were going to be arriving uh they've been arrested on

00:04:19.640 suspicion of aggravated trespass assaulting emergency workers and careless driving and

00:04:23.860 and they're investigating the footage that shows the damage.

00:04:28.520 The Guardian have a bit more information in,

00:04:31.500 where they say that the people were there under the mistaken belief

00:04:35.180 that a small boat was due to arrive.

00:04:37.220 Now, why would they believe that?

00:04:40.640 Why would they?

00:04:41.220 Well, Hampshire is quite far to the west, right?

00:04:44.380 And normally these crossings are at Dover.

00:04:46.140 So why would they believe that the migrants were being taken to Hampshire

00:04:49.960 and not Dover?

00:04:50.720 Well, the answer is there is actually a tracker that you can follow that Patrick Christie's has been doing a great job of showing everyone on his Twitter feed.

00:04:58.840 So you can see where the migrant boats are going, at least as long as the trackers are turned on.

00:05:07.480 And so this gave them the impression, well, these boats go to Hampshire.

00:05:10.220 Well, as Patrick Christie's pointed out, the authorities are actually turning off their trackers.

00:05:14.160 So here was, you see, they would say, and then the tracker just disappears

00:05:18.740 and they expect that they're coming over here.

00:05:22.640 Very interesting that they did that.

00:05:25.640 And it turned out they went to Eastbourne in East Sussex.

00:05:29.960 So they came out, made it look like they were going to Hampshire,

00:05:34.060 turned off the tracker and re-diverted.

00:05:36.420 So the British state is currently engaged in a game of cat and mouse

00:05:40.560 with its own population to make sure that the,

00:05:44.840 because I mean, Danny Tomo is just a guy.

00:05:47.320 He's not anyone important, but the British government,

00:05:50.020 the British state and the charity are engaged in this game of cat and mouse

00:05:53.500 so they can smuggle in these migrants without any civilian opposition.

00:05:59.940 By the way, turning off a boat tracker is a pretty serious thing.

00:06:03.840 Yes.

00:06:04.180 When the Iranians do it, they get into all kinds of trouble

00:06:07.740 because they're smuggling oil,

00:06:09.360 because they're sort of doing something to violate sanctions.

00:06:12.580 When the Russians do it,

00:06:13.980 the entirety of the shipping industry goes crazy

00:06:17.120 because, again, they're taking ships

00:06:19.200 that are not properly insured

00:06:20.500 or that are only insured in Russia or what have you

00:06:22.920 and using them to ferry goods.

00:06:25.620 Just to be clear, it's dangerous.

00:06:26.460 And it's done by the military.

00:06:27.540 Well, it endangers life, doesn't it?

00:06:28.960 It does, yeah.

00:06:29.680 The reason that these transponders are on ships

00:06:31.940 is precisely to prevent ship collisions.

00:06:34.660 Yes.

00:06:35.420 Because in the dark, if you're a small boat,

00:06:37.740 You could just die.

00:06:39.120 And the English Channel is one of the most trafficked waterways in the world.

00:06:42.880 Exactly.

00:06:43.360 So it's especially important to have them there

00:06:45.080 so other ships don't accidentally bulldoze through you.

00:06:47.720 Exactly.

00:06:48.240 If you look at that, I've actually looked at the tracker,

00:06:50.540 and you can select, so you can have emergency vehicles

00:06:52.480 or emergency boats, things like that, or you can have all.

00:06:55.320 And if you have all, that is full.

00:06:57.380 So the danger, it's ironic.

00:06:59.420 It is a real danger.

00:07:00.780 Real danger, yeah.

00:07:01.660 And Danny, obviously, is arrested,

00:07:03.040 and part of the charge is endangering life.

00:07:06.120 well if you turn your tracker off that's endangering the life of everybody on board isn't it

00:07:10.320 doesn't matter to them though because they're on the right side exactly yeah that's the the system

00:07:14.680 will forgive it um anyway as uh patrick pointed out yeah they actually went to eastbourne uh not

00:07:19.800 hampshire which is very interesting again the fact that they're now playing these games is what you

00:07:25.980 should be aware of because before if they were just like no we have a system to operate we're

00:07:31.640 going to go here and do this and okay we don't want you protesting but if you protest well

00:07:35.960 that's your prerogative because this is a free country that would be fine but what this shows

00:07:40.740 is an understanding and a will and a deliberate malice on the part of the establishment yes no

00:07:48.020 no we're going to sneak this past you now right it's not even that we think we should be doing

00:07:52.320 this we're going to sneak this past you so you can't object and people um noticed that my goodness

00:07:59.360 what had happened in hampshire well they had turned out with the cavalry

00:08:04.540 unbelievable look at that all emergency services that is the police force this is what we're

00:08:14.380 paying for we are paying for them to escort illegal people in coaches look at this i'm

00:08:24.440 Counting 17 or 18 in vehicles.

00:08:26.820 It's mad.

00:08:27.820 It's genuinely mad how many.

00:08:29.920 Yeah.

00:08:30.100 I mean, this is a huge mobilization for a place like Hampshire, right?

00:08:35.260 They must have drawn in resources from surrounding counties

00:08:37.980 because, of course, Hampshire still being mostly a normal English county,

00:08:42.060 nothing ever happens there.

00:08:43.500 There's no reason to have a mass police force there.

00:08:46.160 It's not London or Manchester or something.

00:08:49.460 And so, yeah, this was incredible to watch.

00:08:51.980 so not only had they turned off their trackers but they had said no bring everything down to

00:08:57.980 hampshire so the the protesters think that that's what we're doing then we're going to turn off the

00:09:03.020 trackers and just send them completely the other direction and so what this was were these massive

00:09:08.680 empty coaches that were being escorted

00:09:11.220 by a huge police...

00:09:16.040 This is all empty.

00:09:17.760 Wow.

00:09:19.180 Isn't that crazy?

00:09:21.160 The lengths the British state is going to,

00:09:22.940 to smuggle in illegal migrants.

00:09:25.700 It's almost as if they want them to be here

00:09:28.220 more than anything on this.

00:09:29.880 This is a lot of work.

00:09:30.860 It is, yeah.

00:09:31.540 A lot of effort and a lot of money

00:09:32.440 to put all of this and the plan together.

00:09:35.560 I mean, I don't know how else...

00:09:36.920 The fact that you're taking

00:09:37.800 all of these emergency resources

00:09:40.440 on a distraction campaign

00:09:43.000 rather than actually,

00:09:45.240 oh, there is somebody who's been stabbed.

00:09:47.660 There is somebody who needs to be taken to hospital.

00:09:49.760 There's somebody who needs help.

00:09:51.140 The fact that this would be dedicated to distraction

00:09:53.320 when nine times out of 10,

00:09:55.480 you can't get the police to show up.

00:09:58.200 I called the other day

00:09:59.420 because my neighbor's alarm was going off.

00:10:02.000 I was like, how long has it been going?

00:10:03.580 They were like, how long has it been going off?

00:10:05.100 I said, I don't know, maybe half an hour now.

00:10:07.220 Like, oh, they've probably gone now.

00:10:08.620 We're not going to send anyone.

00:10:09.700 okay

00:10:11.500 thank you

00:10:13.440 and that's the concern isn't it because what is

00:10:15.280 happening here the word

00:10:17.440 campaign is the right word

00:10:18.660 the British state is currently engaged in a campaign

00:10:21.740 against the British public

00:10:23.580 to import illegals

00:10:25.040 and they recognize that the forces that the British public

00:10:27.660 have mustered to resist

00:10:29.380 this campaign have been essentially

00:10:31.140 Danny Tomo and so okay

00:10:33.100 we can outmaneuver you because we

00:10:35.360 have access to the resources of

00:10:37.400 the entire country effectively the giant

00:10:39.300 british state and so yeah we can send down this massive convoy so you think that's where they're

00:10:44.900 going and we can just slip past you i mean like some sort of you know ancient military campaign

00:10:50.260 where you know the persians go around the goat path there's the inflatable tanks in it inflatable

00:10:55.240 tanks in the wall exactly that exactly that and so it's just it's insane and uh as um uh this

00:11:03.260 council i think he's a reform council yeah reform uk hampshire he's the leader of the council right

00:11:07.840 and he's just said

00:11:10.320 well this is unbelievable

00:11:11.260 coaches that were planned

00:11:12.580 for migrants to get on Gosport

00:11:13.660 were being escorted

00:11:14.280 from Hampshire

00:11:14.740 by a larger motorcade

00:11:16.380 than what the Prime Minister

00:11:17.560 or King would get

00:11:18.440 there was probably

00:11:19.060 a bigger motorcade

00:11:19.740 than Trump got

00:11:20.540 when he came and visited

00:11:21.540 but that is absolutely

00:11:23.360 mad

00:11:24.480 isn't it

00:11:25.120 and so it's just

00:11:26.360 okay well

00:11:26.880 what do they think

00:11:29.220 that they're doing

00:11:29.940 you know

00:11:30.820 what do all these police

00:11:31.920 think that they're doing

00:11:32.880 are they aware

00:11:33.620 that that's what they're doing

00:11:35.080 are they aware

00:11:35.660 there are no migrants

00:11:36.560 here actually

00:11:37.860 They must be aware.

00:11:38.680 They must be.

00:11:39.100 They must be.

00:11:39.880 Yeah, I mean, they've turned up.

00:11:41.700 No one's come off the boats.

00:11:42.960 There are no boats, in fact, at all.

00:11:44.760 What are we doing?

00:11:45.320 Now we've got to drive this empty motorcade

00:11:47.640 of police vehicles protecting empty coaches.

00:11:52.000 What are we doing?

00:11:52.460 They would have been sat in a meeting room

00:11:54.700 and briefed what they're going to do

00:11:56.100 before they set off.

00:11:57.300 They would have all been there

00:11:57.980 and they would have known exactly what's happening

00:11:59.320 and they would have known the operation

00:12:00.920 that they were on.

00:12:02.540 And how can you do that as a police officer?

00:12:05.840 You know, how can you play your part in this?

00:12:07.960 You're being sent as a diversion and as bait.

00:12:13.460 That's one way of using police resources.

00:12:16.660 It's actually mad when you think of what the scope of, like,

00:12:19.740 there must have been whoever the chief of police is

00:12:22.980 and whoever the government is facing come up with a plan

00:12:26.340 to drag the migrants into this country

00:12:29.780 against the will of the British people,

00:12:31.960 I mean, democratically or literally physically democratically,

00:12:35.320 on the spot on the on the place and they're i mean how committed do they have to be to this

00:12:41.480 yes right that that is a serious level of commitment like that's way more commitment

00:12:45.840 than i show when i'm like trying to hide the kids sweets from the kids or something right

00:12:49.260 like this this is a real level of commitment and you had uh lots of people commenting on it like

00:12:54.260 one one person who was present unnamed thankfully uh says i counted at least 13 uh police uh

00:13:01.260 vehicles in the motorcade and one of them was an ambulance uh and so they were like well you know

00:13:06.060 my dad had a stroke and we were told that an ambulance couldn't attend so we had to take him

00:13:09.220 in a car to the hospital uh and you see these people being escorted in it's just it's just

00:13:15.760 it reflects the hierarchy and it reflects the friend enemy distinction yes who's the friend

00:13:21.940 and who's the enemy here who is the government for who is the government for that's what it tells

00:13:26.060 you what what are the government's priorities yes the government's priorities to spend probably

00:13:30.420 millions of pounds getting the immigrants in okay brilliant so i mean how many are they getting in

00:13:36.420 well it turns out it's a lot right so in the last two days a thousand two hundred illegal immigrants

00:13:42.540 780 of them were yesterday which is the highest daily figure of the year so when andy burnham

00:13:47.140 goes on tv says oh we're getting small boat crossings down no you're not this is the highest

00:13:53.200 figure in one day of the entire year so each one of them is 40 000 pounds a year 50 000 pounds a

00:13:58.520 year exactly each one of these people yeah it's 40 to 50 000 pounds and they're never going to go

00:14:02.840 home they're never going to be sent back not unless you make them yeah the government isn't

00:14:07.220 going to make them go home um but that's the same number of illegals that they're going to dump in

00:14:12.160 piddington yeah that's just like what are we doing every two days you need to you need a new piddington

00:14:17.360 yes every two days you'll need a new piddington to house these people because remember they're

00:14:21.580 not going to do them in hotels because that's just economically inefficient as if any of this

00:14:27.240 as economic attention.

00:14:28.320 It's all slight to hand.

00:14:29.660 It's all pantomime, you know?

00:14:31.120 So we're not using hotels anymore.

00:14:32.960 No, because you're giving them houses.

00:14:34.020 Yeah, you put them in each amount.

00:14:34.920 You can easily say

00:14:35.480 we're not using hotels anymore.

00:14:36.820 No, because they've got a house.

00:14:38.380 You know, they've got their part of gold

00:14:40.020 at the end of the rainbow.

00:14:40.800 Yeah, which is kind of worse

00:14:41.740 because at least when they're in their hotels,

00:14:43.180 I mean, at least they're sort of corralled

00:14:44.480 in a visible area.

00:14:45.840 Absolutely.

00:14:46.480 But if they're just in random houses

00:14:48.040 in your street,

00:14:49.920 sorry, who are these men?

00:14:51.040 Oh, well, the government thinks

00:14:52.800 they're probably rapists.

00:14:54.440 The government literally is giving them

00:14:55.680 the pamphlet saying,

00:14:56.360 please don't rape people, by the way.

00:14:58.540 And Piddington's a great example of this

00:15:00.500 because Piddington, for like 60 years or so,

00:15:03.220 had like 1,500 military men serving there.

00:15:07.680 Just barracked there.

00:15:10.080 It was a military village.

00:15:11.720 Yeah, well, absolutely.

00:15:12.580 Were there any major problems?

00:15:14.580 No, there was no problems.

00:15:15.720 Did you live near Piddington?

00:15:16.560 I did.

00:15:17.320 So, yeah, weird that this suddenly became a problem.

00:15:20.680 Weirdly, Piddington never needed to secede

00:15:23.320 from the United Kingdom

00:15:24.340 until they decided 1,200 Third World illegals needed to be put there.

00:15:28.880 The number they're going to put in Pinnickton might be much higher.

00:15:31.200 It might be in the 3,000.

00:15:32.640 Oh, is it?

00:15:33.040 I didn't even hear about that.

00:15:34.000 Risk assessment is up to 3,000.

00:15:37.580 Ten migrants for every one person.

00:15:39.360 Just a pause on that.

00:15:40.320 What do you mean risk assessment?

00:15:41.640 They've done risk assessments on the MOD site

00:15:43.860 because it needs to be converted.

00:15:45.340 It's full of asbestos and was used as storage.

00:15:47.600 Yeah, not risk assessments for the public.

00:15:49.140 Risk assessments for the poor migrants.

00:15:51.060 Got to make sure they know it and make any harm.

00:15:53.000 a fool and not remembering that the British government

00:15:55.160 is dedicated to destroying us. And then you have to think

00:15:57.140 of the infrastructure and the buses that they'll be supplying

00:15:59.420 because they'll be busing the immigrants in

00:16:01.260 and out of towns. They're in a village.

00:16:03.420 There's nothing there. Just a church.

00:16:04.820 And they'll be sending them around to Bicester.

00:16:07.100 They'll probably be sending them around to Bicester.

00:16:09.500 Meaning that the entire tourism sector

00:16:11.340 in Bicester dies.

00:16:12.860 And it's a massive tourism hub. I know.

00:16:14.980 When you come into Bicester,

00:16:17.220 the announcements are all in Chinese because it's

00:16:19.200 such a Chinese tourist attraction.

00:16:21.000 really interesting

00:16:21.800 Chinese, Arabic

00:16:22.800 a bunch

00:16:23.580 it used to be Russian as well

00:16:24.920 that stopped

00:16:25.840 but

00:16:27.420 well speaking of Russian

00:16:29.920 Tommy Robinson has been arrested

00:16:31.640 by the counter-terror police again

00:16:33.380 because

00:16:34.540 so

00:16:34.920 what they

00:16:35.920 what they

00:16:36.560 understand

00:16:37.420 is that Danny Tomo

00:16:38.800 Tommy Robinson

00:16:39.420 and the sort of

00:16:40.580 the Patriots

00:16:41.380 are part of a network

00:16:42.260 right

00:16:42.660 and so they recognize

00:16:44.360 okay these people

00:16:45.040 are basically sort of

00:16:45.880 all on the same side

00:16:46.580 which of course they are

00:16:47.700 and the government

00:16:49.320 recognizes them

00:16:50.220 essentially the opposition the the the labor and conservative parties didn't do anything different

00:16:55.440 in this regard like tommy was getting arrested under the conservative government for terrorism

00:17:00.920 charges uh which of course never went anywhere because he's not a terrorist um and he's been

00:17:06.800 stopped again uh this happened back in june this has happened this is in fact as tommy points out

00:17:11.520 the fourth time that they've used the counter-terror powers uh to force him to give over

00:17:18.480 his phone and grill him about his opinions on things like Russia and things like this no right

00:17:23.740 to no comment as well you have to answer every question yes so you have to answer the questions

00:17:28.140 and then when they get your phone they download all of the data including everybody that you've

00:17:34.140 been speaking to all of your messages all of your everything it's fishing they do it often fishing

00:17:39.160 you know to collect they've got a room they go all online now where everybody's connected every

00:17:43.300 single pit we'd all be connected you know to it so so this is again the country that you live in

00:17:49.960 this is what they're doing this is their goal this is the purpose of the state is to suppress

00:17:56.460 any kind of and i'm going to say native defensive sentiment but tommy robinson is not some sort of

00:18:03.800 hardline national front guy or anything like this and no one's ever you know no no one who knows

00:18:09.180 anything about tommy robinson would ever accuse him of being so either and yet if this is the

00:18:12.580 kind of treatment that he gets well how are the rest of us going to get treated yeah so anyway i

00:18:18.460 guess we'll leave that there yeah can i just say really quickly on that point though on danny tomo

00:18:22.340 you know when you see in the length that the government the establishment are going through

00:18:27.100 to sneak these people in you can understand why a father any man who you know anybody who's got

00:18:33.080 children are scared now you know what's happening you know it's a horrible thought this is pushes

00:18:38.420 people to that. Danny has been pushed

00:18:40.580 at that point. It might not be the best

00:18:42.560 decision he's ever made

00:18:44.260 but when you see him what's going on, he's

00:18:46.600 being pushed to that. So they've got to accept responsibility.

00:18:48.780 Yeah, I saw an interview with a chap

00:18:50.440 in Pittington, actually, on

00:18:52.000 the BBC. Victoria

00:18:54.460 Derbyshire was interviewing him and she

00:18:56.400 was trying to get him to condemn Danny Tomo.

00:18:58.820 She was saying, well, you know, this Danny

00:19:00.420 Tomo type, he's turning up in dressed in black, isn't he

00:19:02.420 a bad person? And the man was

00:19:04.480 like, well, I'm not going to condemn him for trying to defend his country.

00:19:06.520 and I'm in exactly

00:19:07.560 the same position

00:19:08.140 I don't think it was wise

00:19:09.240 to slash a boat

00:19:11.080 in the middle

00:19:11.760 of the English channel

00:19:12.340 or whatever

00:19:12.640 but I'm not going to

00:19:13.920 condemn him for wanting

00:19:14.860 to do what I think

00:19:16.680 is the right thing

00:19:17.280 he may have taken

00:19:18.480 a wrong action

00:19:18.960 he may end up getting

00:19:19.860 smacked by the state

00:19:20.920 for it

00:19:21.240 which I obviously

00:19:21.980 don't want

00:19:22.380 but this is just

00:19:23.640 more reason

00:19:24.980 to make sure

00:19:25.700 that you don't

00:19:26.200 give them an excuse

00:19:26.900 there's no point

00:19:28.140 giving them an excuse

00:19:28.820 you will never be able

00:19:31.480 to be a martyr

00:19:32.180 to them

00:19:32.860 their heart strings

00:19:34.700 are not pulled

00:19:35.360 by it

00:19:35.900 like they're just

00:19:37.080 oh no

00:19:37.500 we got another racist

00:19:38.280 we got another racist

00:19:39.120 we got another racist

00:19:39.920 you know

00:19:40.560 we're fooling the racists

00:19:41.780 that's how they view it

00:19:42.680 and as far as they're concerned

00:19:43.700 you are literally Hitler

00:19:45.260 so

00:19:45.940 be smart

00:19:47.460 yeah

00:19:47.760 they may as well drag you

00:19:49.100 through the town backwards

00:19:49.920 by a horse

00:19:50.460 you know

00:19:50.940 to make an example of you

00:19:51.800 that way

00:19:52.160 and one thing

00:19:53.940 I forgot to mention

00:19:54.540 is

00:19:54.940 we're going to be talking

00:19:55.840 about the abolition

00:19:56.560 of English identity

00:19:57.600 this afternoon

00:19:58.340 on lowsees.com

00:19:59.380 so if you're watching

00:19:59.840 this on YouTube

00:20:00.300 it will be up

00:20:01.060 come and join us

00:20:02.200 because we are

00:20:02.840 as that's a random name

00:20:03.920 as mentioned

00:20:04.440 going to be talking about Jacob Rees-Mogg

00:20:07.060 calling us a mongrel race

00:20:08.660 and that it's our duty to die in a ditch in Ukraine.

00:20:11.740 In fact, what does English identity even mean?

00:20:13.520 Well, we're going to be discussing it in detail

00:20:15.400 and taking his position apart.

00:20:17.720 But on that note, let's move on.

00:20:24.120 Left?

00:20:24.520 Left.

00:20:25.540 More?

00:20:26.200 Yep.

00:20:29.640 Crack on.

00:20:30.360 Yeah, let's move on, please, Samson.

00:20:31.560 okay so obviously in wales we got we've we've said about it for quite a long time now we've

00:20:36.840 got a socialist government in wales we've had a socialist government for a long time under labour

00:20:39.880 exactly we've always had a socialist government since devolution has formed we've had labour

00:20:45.540 but obviously that wasn't bad enough we've now got a new government uh which is called plight

00:20:50.340 and they are the you know the more extreme the the nationalists they call themselves reality

00:20:55.520 internationalists um but we've got a reform opposition which is something we have now

00:21:00.560 because we've always had a Tory opposition.

00:21:03.340 Welsh Conservatives are more Liberal Green than anything else.

00:21:06.100 So we have had an echo chamber in the Senate since it's been formed.

00:21:11.040 But we've got an opposition now in reform.

00:21:13.320 And I've got to say Reform Wales are doing a fantastic job.

00:21:16.660 But obviously we have been going quite a while in Wales

00:21:19.680 and they know who we are and what we do.

00:21:21.920 And it took them, you know, 55 days, it took for them to,

00:21:25.080 this is the government of Plaid Cymru,

00:21:26.300 for them to call us out and have a pop with us.

00:21:28.720 Should we have a quick look at that?

00:21:29.620 Yeah, yeah.

00:21:29.940 Do I press it?

00:21:32.040 Circle is against it.

00:21:33.140 But even in our various workplaces, we have colleagues that are against it as well.

00:21:37.320 People who are otherwise good people, well-meaning people.

00:21:41.880 And are they the kind of people who are tub-thumping, Tommy Robinson-supporting racists or Voice of Wales subscribers?

00:21:49.360 No.

00:21:50.100 They're ordinary people, kind people, nice people, decent people, as are people in the reform ranks as well, I'm sure.

00:21:58.600 John Clarke.

00:21:59.940 so it doesn't take long just called out in the welsh parliament yeah by name by name yeah because

00:22:08.800 you are a tub thumping racist yeah apparently so okay yeah yeah i'm happy to meet you uh welcome

00:22:15.300 uh we love it this is amazing because this this goes right the way back to how you got the platform

00:22:21.860 from youtube absolutely because i as i mean when when i first discovered your channel you were

00:22:27.820 Literally like 10,000, 12,000 subscribers.

00:22:29.840 1,200.

00:22:30.760 Yeah, well, it was really small, yeah.

00:22:32.640 And it wasn't that you had created a particular effect.

00:22:37.860 It's that in their minds,

00:22:39.240 the potential for a particular effect has emerged.

00:22:41.760 And so they contacted YouTube and got you to plant them,

00:22:44.780 like the Welsh BBC or whatever it was.

00:22:46.320 Yeah, Mark Drakeford, the Welsh first minister at the time.

00:22:48.460 Yeah, because apparently we were a threat to modern-day Wales.

00:22:51.020 We coined ourselves at day one as the only opposition in Wales

00:22:53.600 because we genuinely are.

00:22:55.600 You know, well, yeah, because reform are doing a good job now.

00:22:58.420 But it was, you know, Mark Drakeford lobbied YouTube.

00:23:00.280 We're still banned for life.

00:23:01.320 You know, we're not allowed back on there.

00:23:03.100 But obviously they've done this because they want reform to publicly condemn us.

00:23:07.780 They want reform to stand up in the Senate and say, yeah, we disavow Voice of Wales.

00:23:11.380 Because then they know, you know, the base that we've got are heavily reformed voters.

00:23:16.640 So then that will cause a divide between them and us.

00:23:19.140 And they want to create that situation.

00:23:21.580 So they do see us as a threat.

00:23:23.700 And to be honest with you, they should.

00:23:25.180 but in the run-up

00:23:26.720 to the election

00:23:27.360 obviously independence

00:23:28.800 is one of the things

00:23:29.740 that Plaid Cymru

00:23:30.720 are known for

00:23:31.600 pushing for an independence

00:23:32.500 referendum

00:23:33.020 but because Ron Jones

00:23:34.880 we call his actual name

00:23:36.460 is Rune Ap Iowath

00:23:37.680 but his original name

00:23:39.560 that he's born with

00:23:40.180 is Ron Jones

00:23:40.840 obviously you don't sound

00:23:41.520 like a Welsh nationalist

00:23:42.220 as Ron Jones

00:23:42.800 so you had to change it

00:23:43.680 well I mean Jones

00:23:44.380 is a Welsh name

00:23:45.140 well yeah but it's not

00:23:46.280 quite Rune Ap Iowath

00:23:47.200 you know

00:23:48.020 it doesn't go hard enough

00:23:49.620 Carl

00:23:49.840 it doesn't go hard enough

00:23:51.000 it's probably didn't go

00:23:51.600 for Owen Glendower

00:23:52.500 well yeah

00:23:53.500 it got properly

00:23:54.400 into the LARP

00:23:55.100 Yeah. He's unfortunately nothing like that. You know, he's an internationalist. But he knew he'd be a vote loser within his own party as well. He was trying to entice people to come over from Labour. Labour voters aren't devolution or sorry, aren't independence voters. So he was saying all the way in the run up to the election. We're not interested. It's nothing to do with us. You know, we are we can look again more powers, but it's not in this term.

00:24:19.120 And, you know, within 100 days, you've got this, where he is obviously meeting with the other First Ministers from across the United Kingdom.

00:24:28.440 So you've got John Swinney from SNP, Sinn Féin IRA, Vice President Michelle O'Neill, President of Ireland Mary Lou Macdonald.

00:24:37.020 And their meeting was to discuss breaking up the union.

00:24:40.720 Now, they don't have a mandate for it.

00:24:43.160 The Senate itself, including Labour, obviously, is a pro-union government.

00:24:47.420 The people of Wales have voted not for independence,

00:24:51.100 but he's still just gone ahead and done it.

00:24:53.160 As I understand it, the latest polling has the Welsh

00:24:55.040 on about 25% in favour of independence and 56% against.

00:24:58.720 Yeah.

00:24:59.260 It couldn't be more crystal clear.

00:25:01.060 Way more clear than Brexit.

00:25:02.160 You'd think Wales Online, the media in Wales is something else

00:25:05.900 because they spin that as a positive.

00:25:08.020 It's amazing that one in three people in Wales support independence.

00:25:11.400 Yeah, but two in three don't.

00:25:12.780 Yeah.

00:25:13.940 Do we care about democracy as well?

00:25:16.100 Yeah, and they don't.

00:25:17.240 Which is what this is, you know, because even within the Senate, you know, if the Senate was pro-independence, then he might be able to say, well, you know, we're the representatives we can.

00:25:27.600 But even in the Senate, it's not pro-independence.

00:25:30.640 So just the other thing about this, these are all people who are in favor of infinity immigration.

00:25:37.120 Yeah.

00:25:37.720 But for some reason, it's the English who are the problem.

00:25:41.560 Yeah, you know, it's insane because they don't want to have the English coming into Wales because they don't want to dilute the Welsh culture.

00:25:47.740 The Pakistanis are fine.

00:25:48.360 Yeah, but the whole of Africa and the Middle East is fine, you know, bring them in, you know, but they don't understand that that's going to dilute the Welsh culture, which is why we've always called them internationalists.

00:25:57.520 You've got like the Free Wales Army from, you know, back in the day where it was, you know, England, cottage burning and all this stuff.

00:26:03.960 And the Free Wales Army would have been against the Islamification of Wales.

00:26:08.820 They were to preserve the Welsh culture.

00:26:11.200 You know, that is it.

00:26:12.120 But this is just like the IRA going pro-Palestine, right?

00:26:14.700 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:26:15.480 It's exactly the same.

00:26:16.680 They're like, no, actually, I have to become a third worldist.

00:26:19.560 With the IRA, Gaddafi was giving them money.

00:26:22.980 They were getting traded by the PLO.

00:26:24.860 You could sort of see a historic link with them.

00:26:27.200 Sure, yeah.

00:26:27.760 But with the Welsh and the Scotch, it just makes zero sense.

00:26:31.260 But even then, it was never on the table, yeah,

00:26:32.940 we're going to have infinite Libyans in Ireland.

00:26:35.400 Like, that was never on the table.

00:26:36.660 It was always just, okay, we want to break it.

00:26:38.380 break up the british empire yeah okay of course you do you know it's not we want to disestablish

00:26:42.360 ireland as an ethnic nation yeah you know it was literally the opposite yeah exactly it was

00:26:47.140 literally the opposite and i grew up on military bases because my dad was in the rf so like you

00:26:51.700 know my entire life it was i mean it wasn't for me the warning but like i would see warnings to

00:26:56.740 uh the military personnel don't walk the same way twice back from work make sure you check under your

00:27:01.040 car for a bum nothing ever happened but like it was one of those things where the ira were ethnic

00:27:07.280 nationalist terrorist

00:27:08.420 from the Irish

00:27:09.420 even though

00:27:10.560 the Northern Irish

00:27:11.160 had voted to stay

00:27:11.900 in the union

00:27:12.320 and therefore they had

00:27:12.900 a democratic mandate

00:27:13.820 to stay

00:27:14.640 these ethnic terrorists

00:27:16.560 were not going to take it

00:27:17.580 it's like

00:27:17.860 okay well we just

00:27:18.360 have to endure it

00:27:18.940 it's kind of insulting

00:27:20.240 frankly

00:27:20.780 watching the IRA

00:27:21.900 turn into these

00:27:23.080 weird gay internationalists

00:27:25.040 it's like no

00:27:25.820 well come on

00:27:26.620 you want to be

00:27:27.160 Irish aren't you

00:27:28.280 what's happened

00:27:29.920 to our enemy

00:27:30.480 they've fallen apart

00:27:32.860 you just need to look

00:27:33.540 at the frame

00:27:34.020 of the headline itself

00:27:36.400 Westminster's time

00:27:37.200 is coming to an end says first ministers now you know i don't know who they think they are because

00:27:40.400 they you know you have no mandate to do it they stand there like that as if you know they are

00:27:44.660 something important it's never you know it's never going to be palatable for the welsh people

00:27:49.080 to fall in line with these because it's going to destroy ways do you want these people in charge

00:27:54.580 of your country no no but then you've got like i said reform great you know we we've spoken to

00:27:59.940 quite a few of the reform um senate members in the run-up to the election you know we've had

00:28:04.540 interactions with them just, you know, online.

00:28:07.020 But this is Francesca O'Brien, the next video coming up.

00:28:11.120 She's a fantastic Senedd member.

00:28:13.520 And this is what she had to say in reply to this meeting.

00:28:15.920 The United Kingdom is the greatest nation in the history of the world.

00:28:19.440 We gave the parliamentary democracy, common law and the industrial age.

00:28:25.140 Glad you're laughing, it's not funny.

00:28:26.820 We defeated Napoleon.

00:28:28.780 We abolished the slave trade.

00:28:30.940 Soys are disappointing.

00:28:31.940 we stood against Hitler in 1940

00:28:35.820 when the rest of Europe had fallen.

00:28:38.620 And at every one of those moments, Wales was there.

00:28:42.880 Wales has been at the centre of British history for generations.

00:28:47.300 Interesting, because actually Plaid Cymru

00:28:49.120 wanted to side with the Nazis in the war.

00:28:50.900 They wanted to stay neutral.

00:28:52.760 I didn't know that.

00:28:54.040 Yeah, they wanted to side with them,

00:28:55.820 wanted to remain neutral,

00:28:56.660 and they would have allowed them to use Wales as a place to stay.

00:28:59.940 You know, they could make yourself home.

00:29:01.360 you know why not i mean everything she said there was completely true spot on and she's great and

00:29:05.040 this is you know for us in wales we've never had this sort of pushback it's always been the

00:29:09.560 conservators saying oh but i i disagree with that because i have to but yeah whatever actually i

00:29:13.820 kind of agree with it yeah and it is great to see and like you know the people in wales are

00:29:17.720 who have been watching politics are seeing reform in wales and they are oh thank you because you see

00:29:22.840 in rhetoric like the the next video so the nation of sanctuary before you go on there this this

00:29:27.380 touched on an interesting point i always wondered why the welsh and the scots don't actually have

00:29:32.540 nationalist parties like i i i do not you know i've visited wales i've met lots of welsh people

00:29:39.180 they didn't come off as like insane crazed leftist they came off just really normal just like okay

00:29:44.800 well they're just normal people living their lives why do that why are their politics so governed by

00:29:49.220 these fruitcakes yeah yeah why are they so well you know why they're communists you know empty

00:29:53.420 vessels make the most noise it's that isn't it yeah it's nice to see women coming up and speaking

00:29:58.500 up a lot more well especially in wales there's been a change of leadership isn't there so dan

00:30:02.820 thomas has stepped down and you've now got a two ladies so you've got helen jenner you know great

00:30:08.780 well speaking and lauren jones ex-conservative but she was one of the good ones who was actually

00:30:13.100 vocal in the senate about trans ideology in schools things like that and they're both leading

00:30:17.540 the charge now and then you've got francesco bright and and that takes so much ammunition

00:30:21.540 off the opposition from the Plaid Cymru

00:30:23.520 because they do go softer on the ladies, kind of.

00:30:27.280 But then you've got this guy, Joe Martin,

00:30:28.780 and Joe Martin is outstanding.

00:30:30.780 You know, he's talking about the Nation of Sanctuary here

00:30:32.320 and he's really ruffling the feathers

00:30:34.160 of the Plaid Cymru and Labour politicians.

00:30:37.100 Defenders of the Nation of Sanctuary scheme

00:30:39.000 will point to the fact that the primary recipients of aid

00:30:41.360 have been Ukrainian families fleeing Putin's invasion.

00:30:45.000 Whilst I don't know that it's necessary

00:30:46.160 to spend additional money over and above

00:30:48.040 what Westminster already spends to help Ukrainian families,

00:30:50.260 you won't find anyone seriously contending that they're the reason that the scheme should be

00:30:54.160 scrapped. But that's because so far there have been zero instances of Ukrainian refugees trying

00:30:59.140 to behead people in the streets. The same cannot be said for Sudanese asylum seekers. Simply ask

00:31:04.640 Stephen Ogilvie from Belfast or the family of Rhiannon White who was murdered or any of the 226

00:31:11.560 women who were raped by Sudanese men in 2024 alone. These being the same men your ministers

00:31:17.420 So Wales is a nation of sanctuary, where it is doors open.

00:31:31.600 You know, everyone says, oh, but you know, migration is not devolved.

00:31:35.780 Just a quick thing.

00:31:36.760 How long is it until Nigel Farage disavows these guys?

00:31:39.480 Because this is great rhetoric.

00:31:41.520 You know, the reform in Britain.

00:31:43.700 It needs to be said.

00:31:44.680 Yeah, exactly.

00:31:45.160 And I put in the notes, and you couldn't really hear it there, but maybe people listening could.

00:31:49.300 But in the background, all you hear is people saying, oh, are you racist?

00:31:52.420 Racist.

00:31:52.920 Oh, racist.

00:31:53.820 You know, that's all the murmurs of the background of the Senate.

00:31:57.620 He's speaking facts.

00:31:59.220 These things happened.

00:32:00.940 You know, and no one can argue that introducing loads of men who need to be told it's not okay to rape into your community is dangerous.

00:32:07.520 If you tell them it's not okay to rape

00:32:10.920 You're saying that it is okay

00:32:12.920 Because it is understood

00:32:14.500 That it's not okay to rape

00:32:15.720 And in their countries

00:32:17.020 That will be punished by death

00:32:18.320 And the fact that you're saying

00:32:20.540 Here's a leaflet

00:32:21.620 Is a sign of weakness

00:32:23.100 That actually invites more aggression

00:32:24.760 And the leaflet if you remember

00:32:26.440 It says things like

00:32:27.220 May get you in trouble

00:32:28.180 Could get you deported

00:32:29.220 No no no

00:32:29.740 If you're going to give them a leaflet

00:32:30.880 If you do something like this

00:32:31.800 You're going on the gallows

00:32:33.100 It's simple

00:32:34.000 Black and white does that

00:32:35.640 This is the Singapore policy.

00:32:37.640 If you bring drugs into Singapore, you're going to die.

00:32:40.060 Just don't do it.

00:32:40.820 Yeah, yeah.

00:32:41.760 And I agree with that, you know.

00:32:43.380 I totally agree with that.

00:32:44.440 Then you get more rhetoric.

00:32:46.640 This is a slightly bit longer, but it's definitely worth it.

00:32:48.640 But rhetoric like this, things that the Welsh people don't even know.

00:32:51.520 But this is coming up as well.

00:32:54.300 My thanks to Slayer Powell for submitting today's debate.

00:32:58.220 The good news is we found £9 million for your childcare idea.

00:33:02.840 The bad news is you are going to have to stop funding some of the most pointless schemes known to man.

00:33:07.980 You'll be familiar with these schemes, of course, because your party's made you defend them during the election campaign.

00:33:12.940 But I should say all of these are real uses of taxpayer money.

00:33:17.000 In one scheme, for example, in Peru, we fought climate change by providing the indigenous Wampi tribe with solar powered canoes.

00:33:24.080 In Uganda, we advanced gender equality with a beekeeping scheme somehow.

00:33:29.060 and obviously we send no and obviously we send Uganda money to plant trees as well

00:33:37.260 because we won that competition who can find the stupidest use of taxpayer money

00:33:41.440 we actually asked some Ugandan people what they thought about Wales's scheme to send them money

00:33:49.240 for trees and they said why are you sending us money for trees and we then asked the same question

00:33:54.000 to some Welsh students who'd been through our underfunded education system but we didn't get

00:33:58.880 to reply because we'd emailed them and they couldn't read um and then someone actually

00:34:05.680 shots up reassist have a look at illiteracy rates for students graduating and then finally we spend

00:34:12.580 five million pounds on mini embassies across the globe in India one of the functions of those mini

00:34:18.160 embassies is to recruit nurses to come and work in our NHS which is great because it means that

00:34:22.700 the Welsh people who would have otherwise become nurses can instead go on universal credit um I

00:34:27.860 I have inquired as to why we can't just have an enormous pit

00:34:29.980 where we burn all the money,

00:34:31.220 but apparently that's not compliant with net zero.

00:34:33.940 Not everyone thinks these are stupid ideas, of course.

00:34:37.200 I did actually receive an email from a constituent the other day

00:34:39.460 in favour of these schemes.

00:34:41.760 I'm joking.

00:34:42.740 I didn't.

00:34:43.140 I'm going to leave this because I don't accept any of it.

00:34:46.060 I don't want to.

00:34:46.880 I'll be leaving.

00:34:48.180 That is a great idea.

00:34:49.080 I don't know if you can even hear it.

00:34:51.220 But what she's saying is, I don't want any part of this.

00:34:52.960 I'm leaving.

00:34:53.720 Good.

00:34:54.120 Get out.

00:34:54.180 And she caused a mass walkout.

00:34:55.780 Great.

00:34:56.140 Get out.

00:34:56.460 They all walked out, all of the opposition.

00:34:58.200 So then it was, you know, in the debating chamber,

00:34:59.900 it was just reform and conservative sitting there.

00:35:01.860 Joe Martin comes out after it and says, you know,

00:35:04.180 oh, you know, debates in the debating chamber.

00:35:05.880 Oh, you know, you can't have that, you know,

00:35:08.220 that rhetoric in Wales, no chance.

00:35:10.320 But it's true what he said, and there's more.

00:35:12.040 So you've got, you know, the tree planting program in Uganda,

00:35:14.520 solar power canoe in Malawi, small grounds for Africa,

00:35:17.300 solar power bow holes and water projects in Kenya,

00:35:20.300 water and electricity for 420 houses in Uganda,

00:35:22.760 eye care partnership in Ghana,

00:35:24.480 facial reconstruction

00:35:25.720 medical partnership

00:35:26.560 in the Congo

00:35:27.120 some Wrexham thing

00:35:28.840 I don't know what that is

00:35:29.800 period

00:35:30.680 dignity

00:35:31.420 and reusable

00:35:32.040 sanitary wear

00:35:32.780 in Zimbabwe

00:35:33.560 we've got offices

00:35:34.300 in Canada

00:35:34.880 in Montreal

00:35:35.600 Beijing

00:35:36.180 Shanghai

00:35:36.840 New Delhi

00:35:38.520 Mumbai

00:35:39.160 Bengaluru

00:35:40.360 whatever that says

00:35:41.000 Tokyo

00:35:41.480 Dubai

00:35:42.080 Doha

00:35:42.740 you know

00:35:43.300 they're funding

00:35:43.780 charities then

00:35:44.680 to help

00:35:45.340 the destruction

00:35:46.840 of Wales

00:35:47.260 and bring in

00:35:47.880 as many migrants

00:35:48.740 as possible

00:35:49.320 like people like

00:35:50.260 the Welsh Refugee Council

00:35:51.600 British Red Cross

00:35:52.620 Asylum Justice

00:35:53.340 Displaced People

00:35:53.900 in Africa

00:35:54.240 or migrant integration in Wales.

00:35:55.460 I could go on and on and on.

00:35:57.340 You know, it's just to point it out to you guys.

00:36:00.420 Overseas, foreign aid, foreign spending is not devolved.

00:36:03.860 But the most annoying thing about this

00:36:05.460 is that Wales is one of the poorest regions

00:36:07.660 of the United Kingdom.

00:36:08.780 Yeah.

00:36:09.260 It doesn't have millions and millions of pounds

00:36:11.080 slushing around in its coffers

00:36:12.540 to start sending overseas.

00:36:14.280 Exactly.

00:36:14.980 And things like canoes,

00:36:16.380 you know, a solar-powered canoe for a won't be fine.

00:36:18.280 A solar-powered canoe killed me.

00:36:21.220 Aren't you meant to roll?

00:36:22.820 Yeah.

00:36:23.180 what do you do

00:36:24.360 just like a batman

00:36:25.560 what do you do

00:36:27.080 like I don't understand

00:36:28.360 what is a solar powered canoe

00:36:31.000 I don't get it

00:36:32.460 the concept escapes me

00:36:34.540 yeah

00:36:34.840 it is

00:36:35.780 it's insane

00:36:36.300 but it's just a complete mismanagement of money

00:36:37.960 and what he said there is

00:36:38.860 you know

00:36:39.120 NHS is devolved

00:36:40.280 and they are recruiting people

00:36:41.480 they're incentivizing people in these offices

00:36:43.240 to come to Wales

00:36:43.960 to work in our NHS

00:36:45.040 meanwhile

00:36:45.520 you know

00:36:46.020 you've got people in Wales

00:36:46.860 who have gone through the paramedic course

00:36:48.760 only to be told

00:36:49.760 there's no spaces

00:36:50.580 yeah you've got benefits instead

00:36:52.300 yeah

00:36:52.640 and that's what happens

00:36:53.840 they go on to benefits

00:36:54.620 or they leave the UK

00:36:55.800 and go work in some

00:36:56.580 America or Australia

00:36:57.880 and then you've got

00:36:59.880 obviously the reform

00:37:01.060 calling for a grooming

00:37:02.080 gang inquiry

00:37:02.780 an independent grooming

00:37:03.760 gang inquiry into Wales

00:37:04.900 because there's lots

00:37:06.360 of examples of it going on

00:37:07.400 but Wales is just

00:37:08.020 floated under the radar

00:37:08.780 because the last thing

00:37:10.300 that they want

00:37:11.040 is to show

00:37:12.100 what these people

00:37:13.040 are capable of

00:37:14.040 when you're trying to

00:37:14.660 entice them all

00:37:15.160 with the red carpet

00:37:15.840 so this is the chief whip

00:37:17.280 Cleo Powell

00:37:17.840 this is what he had to say

00:37:19.220 an inquiry

00:37:21.020 that is called

00:37:22.200 the England and Wales inquiry that doesn't currently look at anywhere in this nation.

00:37:30.400 Now, Minister, I understand you said you're going to make the case for it, but I don't

00:37:34.020 understand your amendment today. Can you imagine the power that we could have sent, that you could

00:37:38.460 have had a mandate from this very chamber uniting us, that you're not walking in there as a minister

00:37:43.660 of a minority government. You'd have walked into that door with a mandate from this centre that

00:37:48.600 says Wales should be included there should not be a policy here that we're going to learn from

00:37:55.240 what's happening over in England is this now the policy of Plaid Cymru on Monday we were you were

00:38:00.440 sitting with separatists today you're sitting here saying for Wales see England it's not right

00:38:06.540 voices must be heard and those victims have their own experiences so obviously they voted against

00:38:14.520 at Plaid Cymru and Labour voted against the Grooming Anquiry

00:38:18.360 because why would they want to expose what's going on under their watch?

00:38:23.460 Well, it's not just that.

00:38:24.720 They are ideologically committed to protecting migrants

00:38:28.420 from a negative reputation.

00:38:29.960 Correct, yeah.

00:38:30.520 That's what this is all about.

00:38:31.800 Yeah, yeah.

00:38:32.420 So Welsh girls, just like English girls, on the altar, I'm afraid.

00:38:35.420 Yeah.

00:38:35.660 This is what multiculturalism brings.

00:38:37.320 Yeah, absolutely.

00:38:38.440 But it hasn't all been plain sailing for reform

00:38:40.520 because there has been a defection.

00:38:42.660 Now, one of the people who voted against the inquiry, voted so it didn't happen in Wales, is this lady called Sarah Cooper Lessard.

00:38:50.720 And she was a reform, elected as reform, and she's decided that she wants to flip to Ply Cymru.

00:38:56.780 So I don't know, you know, how that happens.

00:38:59.720 I don't know.

00:39:00.520 Oops, I didn't mean to be heavily against migrants.

00:39:03.340 Actually, I'm totally for it.

00:39:04.620 Yeah, yeah.

00:39:05.300 And she moved because she wanted to protect women and children.

00:39:07.620 And the first thing she did is vote against the grooming gang inquiry.

00:39:09.760 So, you know, it's, but the worst thing, but this shows how they're willing to bend the rules because people may not know, but the voting system in the Senate changed at the last election. So it changed. So it was more politicians because we need more. It's divided the country even more, chopped it up a little bit, but the voting system itself has changed where you're not voting for the person, you're voting for the party and then the people go on a slate.

00:39:32.580 so it is you know if reform get whatever you know i won't boy war with the way it works but

00:39:37.980 reform gets three seats there the three seats in the slate go there you know and that's how it

00:39:42.780 works and the other parties battled out as well so the people of this area bridge end voted for

00:39:47.460 reform they didn't vote for play come read they didn't vote for her they voted for reform but

00:39:52.100 they are obviously going nah it's fine you know it's fine we'll take they ended up with a play

00:39:56.200 coming representative anyway yes so they should be kicking right off in bridge end to be honest

00:40:01.200 through they should be but you know they're not going to they just don't but it just shows how

00:40:06.800 they're willing they change the rules to make it easier for them to get into power and then when

00:40:12.220 they were when you know if they could bend it a little bit more and it benefits them they're more

00:40:16.740 than happy to do it in plain sight for everybody to see because they can just get through it but

00:40:21.560 you know it it's just it just goes to show the level of contempt that these people have

00:40:26.720 for the people of Wales.

00:40:30.380 Well, they're careerists, aren't they?

00:40:31.960 That's the thing, the whole point.

00:40:33.040 Like, this is why, oh, how can I go from reform to plague Cymru?

00:40:36.120 Well, because I have a career I have to think about.

00:40:38.500 That's the reason that I can do this.

00:40:40.220 The problem is she's, you know, must be a bit like that

00:40:43.400 because that is how to end your career, you know, in Wales

00:40:45.940 because she's not going to get, you know,

00:40:47.040 that's not done her any favours.

00:40:49.220 But then, you know, you've got the government,

00:40:50.620 you've got everybody else working with it,

00:40:52.720 the establishment, the police, everything's political.

00:40:54.220 And then you've got the media, which is also part of the socialist makeup of Wales.

00:41:00.020 Now, you've got to remember, the media in Wales is funded by the government.

00:41:02.780 So they give them the money to exist.

00:41:05.300 Like they do in Canada.

00:41:06.300 Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:41:07.660 So they come up with the picture, the first picture that was on the group's Facebook account is now one of the most active platforms for daily engagement.

00:41:16.460 So they're talking about us, which is why they hate us.

00:41:19.920 You know, simple as that, because we are.

00:41:21.600 and then it leads to headlines

00:41:23.380 like the next picture

00:41:24.540 investigation reform figures in Wales

00:41:27.220 linked to far-right social media networks

00:41:29.080 so you know

00:41:30.620 that sounds good

00:41:32.460 thank god about time

00:41:34.620 because like I said at the beginning

00:41:36.160 I watch Celtic politics from

00:41:37.840 you know remotely and I'm just like

00:41:39.940 thank god England is a right-wing country

00:41:42.640 it's like it is the right-wing part

00:41:44.680 of the United Kingdom thank god

00:41:46.280 now it's only about half of England

00:41:47.400 which is the right-wing part

00:41:48.380 it's like I can't even imagine being

00:41:50.500 a normal person

00:41:52.220 in Wales or Scotland

00:41:53.380 just being like

00:41:53.940 how is this our politics

00:41:55.040 I keep telling Dankula

00:41:56.780 look just start

00:41:57.360 the Braveheart Party man

00:41:58.520 that'll get votes

00:41:59.560 on the name alert

00:42:00.280 we spoke about that

00:42:00.820 a long time ago

00:42:01.480 just start the Braveheart Party

00:42:03.100 the Lionheart Party

00:42:04.720 whatever it is

00:42:05.340 just start these parties

00:42:07.040 just so they're somewhere

00:42:07.920 for the patriots

00:42:08.920 to actually go

00:42:09.920 so you know

00:42:10.940 reform in England is

00:42:12.580 everyone knows

00:42:14.660 but at least reform in Wales

00:42:16.000 have got some teeth

00:42:16.960 they have as well

00:42:17.940 they're really feisty

00:42:19.700 and that's the thing

00:42:20.320 you know the welsh and over being feisty if you do get a parliament government in or opposition

00:42:24.500 in where they've got a platform and a mandate and a job to do they will do it you know you see like

00:42:29.420 joe martin isn't weathered by anything that they say you know he's been hammered because of the

00:42:33.540 way he's speaking he doesn't care um but this article is really interesting because i'm going

00:42:38.200 to fly through this but because i just want to give you an idea of um the level that the media

00:42:43.500 will go to under instruction of the government to try and cause a wedge between us and reform

00:42:47.400 Go through it, because I think this is really instructive, because one thing I find fascinating about the nature of this kind of conflict is it's clear that the Welsh left have had a free hand decades, and they are genuinely shocked that there could be a right-wing opposition to them.

00:43:04.420 And so this is actually really instructive as to what they would actually be like if they were just given a fief of their own.

00:43:10.400 Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

00:43:11.900 But this article itself, what they've done is a forensic analysis on every reformed person.

00:43:17.380 It doesn't have to be a Senate member, could be the person that runs their branch, could be anything.

00:43:20.980 And all of the interactions that they've done on Facebook and social media, which links them to us.

00:43:25.420 So, you know, again, this is wordy, but it gives you an idea.

00:43:28.640 Please go.

00:43:29.080 So Reform Wales Deputy Leader Helen Jenner is among a number of party figures found to be following the Swansea-based anti-micro group Voice of Wales on Facebook.

00:43:35.720 the group is also followed

00:43:37.040 by Senate member

00:43:37.840 Ian McIntosh

00:43:38.580 Gareth Thomas

00:43:39.160 Laura Ann Jones

00:43:39.780 Joe Martin

00:43:40.260 and Catherine Cullen

00:43:40.900 reforms official

00:43:42.360 Blaina Gwent

00:43:42.920 Caffili Rumney branch

00:43:43.960 account

00:43:44.360 the South Swansea

00:43:45.640 West and Gower

00:43:46.420 reform branch

00:43:47.140 and the Allen

00:43:47.980 D-Site

00:43:48.620 and Rexham branch

00:43:49.500 are also following

00:43:50.340 the account

00:43:50.640 so they've gone

00:43:51.260 through them all

00:43:51.760 they follow them

00:43:52.380 they follow them

00:43:52.800 they follow them

00:43:53.300 everyone follows

00:43:54.100 Voice of Wales

00:43:54.640 well yeah

00:43:58.140 for how long

00:43:59.880 now innit

00:44:00.320 those are

00:44:00.800 sure but you've gotta

00:44:01.780 if they get law

00:44:02.520 we won't be around

00:44:03.140 much longer

00:44:03.640 Martin Roberts

00:44:05.380 the caseworker

00:44:05.860 of Pontypreeth

00:44:06.640 Conor Mertha

00:44:07.780 MS Jason O'Connell

00:44:08.880 has regularly interacted

00:44:09.880 with the Voice of Wales

00:44:10.520 through his official

00:44:11.080 Facebook account

00:44:11.840 as Reform's Mertha

00:44:12.900 and Pontypreeth

00:44:13.540 campaign coordinator

00:44:14.620 this week

00:44:15.700 he liked several posts

00:44:16.980 published by

00:44:17.820 Voice of Wales

00:44:18.420 it's insane

00:44:19.660 he liked the post

00:44:21.100 they're going through

00:44:21.860 your likes

00:44:22.900 everything

00:44:23.620 yeah

00:44:24.280 because they can't

00:44:25.220 go into their profile

00:44:25.880 to see what they've liked

00:44:26.700 they've got to go into

00:44:27.360 our posts

00:44:27.940 and go through

00:44:28.380 every post

00:44:29.100 and every like

00:44:29.820 last time you can see

00:44:31.140 and that's probably

00:44:31.160 sort of going through

00:44:31.820 thousands of likes

00:44:32.700 yeah

00:44:32.940 literally

00:44:33.800 just to identify

00:44:34.580 It's not serious a threat.

00:44:35.440 They consider you.

00:44:36.040 Exactly.

00:44:36.760 I guess it is an investigation.

00:44:38.540 Yeah.

00:44:39.660 They literally called it an investigation.

00:44:41.780 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:44:42.060 That's really serious.

00:44:43.080 Yeah.

00:44:43.980 Like several posts, including comments targeting Plague Cummings,

00:44:47.220 Leanne Wood.

00:44:47.780 One such comment describes a former party leader as a crackhead.

00:44:50.780 You know.

00:44:53.200 See, they've taken that out of the context.

00:44:55.060 Because Leanne Wood is the former Plague Cummings leader.

00:44:57.620 She was booted up because she was dreadful.

00:44:59.640 And now they've employed her as an advisor.

00:45:01.960 So I said, you know, taking advice from Leanne Wood on politics.

00:45:04.580 is like taking advice

00:45:05.400 on the economy

00:45:06.100 from a crackhead

00:45:06.840 so it's not even

00:45:07.880 saying she's a crackhead

00:45:09.140 it's an analogy

00:45:09.780 Mr Roberts also liked

00:45:12.760 the Voice of Wales video

00:45:13.440 which featured Dan Morgan

00:45:14.340 calling for the reversing

00:45:15.440 of Islamification

00:45:16.300 and the reintroduction

00:45:17.160 of the death penalty

00:45:17.880 I've heard of that Dan Morgan guy

00:45:19.860 it's us

00:45:20.780 awful guy

00:45:21.380 yeah yeah yeah

00:45:22.240 the same video was liked

00:45:23.400 by Reform Fincher

00:45:24.280 County Council

00:45:25.060 Christian Salked

00:45:26.600 Reforms UK

00:45:27.420 official

00:45:28.060 Brickin Yachtawi Neith

00:45:29.380 Facebook account

00:45:30.600 also interacted with

00:45:31.420 Voice of Wales

00:45:31.820 adding the thumbs up emoji

00:45:33.160 to a post which referred

00:45:34.480 to several played MSs

00:45:36.380 as the Goon Squad

00:45:37.240 and Leanne Wood

00:45:38.040 as a has-been.

00:45:39.520 You know,

00:45:39.840 these aren't horrible things.

00:45:41.920 These are great posts.

00:45:42.100 These are all bangers.

00:45:42.840 What are you talking about?

00:45:44.040 No, it's just better.

00:45:45.360 Martin Roberts also added

00:45:46.540 a laugh emoji to that post.

00:45:50.460 Top quality journalism.

00:45:52.580 This is what your tax money

00:45:54.140 is funding.

00:45:54.660 Exactly.

00:45:54.960 Trolling through

00:45:55.640 somebody's Facebook post

00:45:57.060 to look at likes

00:45:58.400 and laugh emojis.

00:45:59.580 Oh, dangerous.

00:46:01.540 Got one, got one.

00:46:02.380 Yeah, got one.

00:46:02.860 This is brilliant.

00:46:04.480 how many likes

00:46:05.360 have you counted today

00:46:06.460 some poor bastard

00:46:08.620 sleeving away

00:46:09.600 in an office somewhere

00:46:10.420 just going

00:46:10.900 I'm still counting

00:46:13.740 misery

00:46:15.500 Sifanwi Tovay

00:46:17.260 MS Laura and Jones

00:46:18.800 who's now the deputy leader

00:46:19.920 added a thumbs up emoji

00:46:21.020 to a post by Voice of Wales

00:46:22.180 claiming that

00:46:22.980 unless British voters wake up

00:46:24.380 it would be too late

00:46:25.440 for the UK

00:46:26.040 you know

00:46:27.000 is she not allowed

00:46:28.380 to like that

00:46:28.900 but I also completely endorse

00:46:30.300 absolutely every

00:46:30.940 one of these posts

00:46:31.800 they're amazing

00:46:32.320 and this one's a great one as well

00:46:33.700 the former Welsh Conservative

00:46:34.680 also liked the post

00:46:35.600 by the hate group

00:46:36.220 which referred to

00:46:36.720 the Green Party

00:46:37.220 as goblins

00:46:37.920 they are

00:46:40.780 like little goblins

00:46:41.560 running around

00:46:42.000 have you seen them

00:46:43.140 yeah exactly

00:46:44.280 I don't know how

00:46:45.140 they could say

00:46:45.540 any different

00:46:46.140 some of them look like

00:46:46.920 leprechauns

00:46:47.440 within themselves

00:46:48.000 let's not be racist

00:46:50.180 come on

00:46:50.920 Perkinio Octobie Neath

00:46:53.760 MS

00:46:54.120 Ian McIntosh

00:46:54.800 also engaged

00:46:55.460 with Voice of Wales

00:46:55.960 online

00:46:56.300 like in a post

00:46:56.900 which claimed

00:46:57.220 that Leanne Woods

00:46:57.780 that under Leanne Woods

00:46:59.580 advice

00:47:00.000 Plaid Cymru

00:47:00.520 would destroy Wales

00:47:01.320 performance

00:47:01.980 Plain the Grand

00:47:02.420 Cofilly

00:47:02.720 Romney Branch

00:47:03.300 official account

00:47:04.140 thumbs up emoji

00:47:04.920 to saying that

00:47:06.460 Irish women had

00:47:07.200 become prey to

00:47:08.400 migrants sent by

00:47:09.080 the European Union

00:47:09.740 and then this one

00:47:10.800 comes with its own

00:47:11.360 subheading and it's

00:47:12.620 disturbing so I've

00:47:13.720 got to warn you

00:47:14.220 I've got to brace

00:47:14.780 yourself right

00:47:15.360 so last week

00:47:16.620 Blaina Gwent

00:47:17.100 Kefili Romney

00:47:17.900 MS Catherine Cullen

00:47:19.040 shared a post

00:47:19.840 shared the post

00:47:20.740 she actually shared

00:47:21.440 one from the post

00:47:22.960 of Voice of Wales

00:47:23.540 to her official

00:47:24.720 Senate members

00:47:25.480 Facebook account

00:47:26.240 the post featured

00:47:28.300 a screenshot of a

00:47:29.200 separate post by

00:47:29.900 Reforms Leo Power

00:47:30.640 and included Voice

00:47:31.440 of Wales commentary

00:47:32.060 supporting its

00:47:33.000 message so we've screenshot one of their ms's and said this is great and she shared it yeah that's

00:47:39.940 it that's disturbing well it is to them to them because a right-wing network is forming in wales

00:47:44.460 that might actually threaten their hegemony yeah yeah yeah absolutely and you know that that's just

00:47:49.660 to go that's just one article if if an experiment for everybody at home type in nation comery voice

00:47:54.280 of wales there's two articles a week on us you know voice of wales must be making an impact if

00:48:00.560 you have politicians following you and if you look within your following within itself you must be

00:48:06.200 speaking um to the people and they must well yeah absolutely and that's what they're terrified of

00:48:13.560 they know that we are um they're trying to nip you in the bud because they can see that you're

00:48:19.500 already very influential effective we are effective but labels like far right but when you speak to

00:48:24.480 the everyday person they would say no i'm center right i'm not far right yeah well we're all far

00:48:28.500 right if you're not far left if you're not far left slightly right to far left you're far right

00:48:31.540 simple as that um i don't know if we have time starmer far right just to sort of put everything

00:48:36.140 in context let's not forget keir starmer was being called far right it's it's important to

00:48:41.240 remember that the last bit is a short video um and it's just to show you know if it's not the

00:48:46.640 politicians if it's not the police if it's not the media it's the brown shirts of the plied

00:48:51.400 the extremists and you know this is a this happened last saturday um there was about 30 people marching

00:48:59.380 in swansea against the city of sanctuary stop the boats and all that sort of thing but it was met

00:49:03.500 with 250 of these and and in wales the left are militant they are very active sorry just there

00:49:10.680 are literally dozens of articles about you yeah have you just done it i just went to the website

00:49:15.280 I mean, like, yeah.

00:49:16.220 Was that this week?

00:49:18.200 Literally, like, there are just dozens

00:49:20.400 of Voice of Wales homophobic rant

00:49:23.280 endorsed by UKIP cancer.

00:49:24.700 Voice of Wales making an impact.

00:49:25.860 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:49:26.740 Founder of Voice of Wales

00:49:27.720 get suspended jail sentence.

00:49:29.920 Oh, my God.

00:49:30.960 It's nonstop.

00:49:31.740 And honestly, if you've ever got a bit of time,

00:49:34.200 have a little look at them

00:49:34.980 and just, you understand them

00:49:36.240 because we can say it as much as we want,

00:49:37.680 but when people see it

00:49:38.560 and they're like, wow,

00:49:39.480 you know, they really don't like you.

00:49:41.480 You know?

00:49:41.900 Yes.

00:49:42.320 If we do anything, you know,

00:49:44.040 you see the brown shirts

00:49:45.380 you know

00:49:45.640 the Nazi brown shirts

00:49:46.500 they were the ones

00:49:47.040 that went off

00:49:47.440 and did the naughty stuff

00:49:48.180 that the politicians

00:49:48.680 couldn't do

00:49:49.340 because she's saying

00:49:54.900 how big just

00:49:55.660 had a pistol

00:49:56.120 she was arrested I think

00:49:58.980 so look

00:50:00.520 just to show the police

00:50:01.580 so this is the march

00:50:02.620 and the police

00:50:02.980 allowed the march

00:50:04.240 to stop them

00:50:05.020 going in front of the road

00:50:06.100 no barriers

00:50:07.000 let's turn the sound off

00:50:08.940 good

00:50:09.080 say that again

00:50:10.060 so there's no

00:50:10.720 you know

00:50:10.920 you see the police

00:50:11.500 have just allowed

00:50:12.180 the counter protest

00:50:13.020 to block the march

00:50:14.140 Now, that doesn't happen in England.

00:50:15.440 They're separate.

00:50:16.080 They got free reign.

00:50:17.060 You can see there's two cops.

00:50:18.600 Two cops for that event.

00:50:19.660 They know what's going to happen.

00:50:21.360 And, you know, obviously, fair play to the guy on the horse and cart.

00:50:23.940 He's not taking any messing around.

00:50:25.660 He's pushing his way through.

00:50:26.680 And if the people get in the way, unlucky.

00:50:28.720 Oh, this is proper ancient Britain stuff with the chariots, isn't it?

00:50:31.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:50:32.660 Returning to the roots.

00:50:34.260 I think I'm seeing that more and more now on protests

00:50:36.480 when they get a donkey out or a cart out.

00:50:39.560 But that woman, she was arrested.

00:50:41.260 the allegation is

00:50:42.760 that she filled up

00:50:43.540 a bottle of urine

00:50:44.380 and threw it

00:50:45.520 over these people

00:50:46.080 but this is really interesting

00:50:46.980 right because she wants

00:50:47.780 to get something

00:50:48.120 out of her pocket

00:50:49.020 yeah right

00:50:49.460 the police are saying

00:50:50.120 get out of her pocket

00:50:51.020 she's under arrest

00:50:52.080 right

00:50:52.760 they want her phone

00:50:54.220 right

00:50:54.840 which is what they should get

00:50:55.840 so again this guy

00:50:57.080 you might have seen this guy

00:50:57.960 he's the crying nurse

00:50:58.780 in Gaza

00:50:59.300 he went to Gaza

00:51:00.060 and

00:51:00.340 yeah I did see that guy

00:51:01.920 yeah he's a regular

00:51:02.640 in Wales

00:51:03.340 he's always there

00:51:04.060 so

00:51:05.180 this is the cop

00:51:06.840 is telling her

00:51:07.340 he's helping her up

00:51:08.100 and look

00:51:08.580 if you're watching now

00:51:09.380 she says get my phone

00:51:10.500 ready

00:51:10.780 and she's trying

00:51:12.180 to get his eye contact

00:51:13.280 get my phone

00:51:14.840 right

00:51:15.360 now that cop

00:51:17.000 was told him

00:51:17.600 you can see

00:51:18.580 yep

00:51:19.360 wow

00:51:22.340 now

00:51:23.760 you know

00:51:24.720 that woman was arrested

00:51:26.100 we've been told

00:51:27.100 that the police

00:51:28.360 were going to go

00:51:29.040 and arrest him as well

00:51:30.160 yep

00:51:30.660 because she's under arrest

00:51:31.780 at that point

00:51:32.300 so that is a criminal offence

00:51:33.660 because you know

00:51:34.540 it is

00:51:35.220 throwing piss on someone

00:51:36.300 yeah it's disgusting

00:51:36.860 throwing piss on

00:51:37.500 but also taking the phone

00:51:37.960 but also doing the phone

00:51:38.800 oh right yeah

00:51:39.380 because they wanted the phone

00:51:40.340 and obviously there she is.

00:51:41.180 She's been crying on the floor

00:51:42.340 but when she gets in

00:51:43.000 she's like,

00:51:43.400 oh, F the fascists,

00:51:44.480 F the police.

00:51:44.920 That's the thing.

00:51:45.440 These people are so cavalier

00:51:47.100 because they know

00:51:47.620 they've got the force

00:51:48.140 of the state behind them.

00:51:49.040 Yes.

00:51:49.340 The state is actually

00:51:50.180 completely in favour

00:51:51.000 of the things that they want

00:51:52.160 even if not necessarily

00:51:53.760 the actions.

00:51:54.680 Whereas someone like Danny Tombo

00:51:55.620 or Tommy Robinson,

00:51:56.320 they could never act.

00:51:56.980 Done.

00:51:57.320 You could never act.

00:51:57.940 No.

00:51:58.580 We've been arrested

00:51:59.300 a number of times, right?

00:52:00.200 And the first thing they say to us

00:52:01.240 is you are not allowed

00:52:02.060 to attend any protests.

00:52:03.300 They get arrested

00:52:03.980 every single week

00:52:04.900 and they're always

00:52:05.800 at the next protest.

00:52:06.940 So it just shows it out.

00:52:07.660 in Wales socialist government and this is what it leads to wow mad okay um yeah we got a few uh

00:52:16.260 few rumble rants from that because uh that was interesting um uh Wales being highlighted again

00:52:21.940 no one what a wonder what Ron Jones has done nothing well trying to bring Wales down and

00:52:26.080 he's a nationalist voice of Wales doing good work uh Wales AID don't know what that means

00:52:32.020 As in USAID?

00:52:33.600 Oh, yeah.

00:52:34.640 So basically they are funding all of that nonsense.

00:52:37.160 Yeah, of course, yeah, yeah.

00:52:38.120 That's part of the agenda.

00:52:39.440 Why did that woman leave when someone could have brought her box wine

00:52:41.820 and Midol to her chamber?

00:52:43.080 Yeah, good question.

00:52:44.280 And I love to watch what causes my enemies to flinch.

00:52:46.700 It tells me exactly where they're the weakest.

00:52:48.780 Yes, and that's why your platform has been such an important thing.

00:52:52.560 They responded to this hysterically from day one.

00:52:55.860 Yeah.

00:52:55.980 And I think it was the name, Voice of Wales.

00:52:58.180 I think they genuinely are worried that actually the Welsh people would be like,

00:53:00.860 oh no, that is what I feel

00:53:02.440 and these people are actually representing me

00:53:04.760 in a politics that I'm not represented in at all.

00:53:07.520 And so that's why I think

00:53:08.440 they try to crush you from the word go.

00:53:10.600 Yeah, and it's because we was highlighting

00:53:11.800 the nation of Sanctuary,

00:53:12.760 we were talking about it 10 years ago,

00:53:13.980 before anybody knew about it.

00:53:15.380 We was talking about Swansea,

00:53:16.400 everything that's happening now,

00:53:17.880 we were warning about

00:53:18.560 and that's why they wanted to stop us.

00:53:19.960 It's been an endless fight

00:53:20.920 to stay in the light as well.

00:53:23.960 Bulldog numbers being shut down

00:53:25.280 to bulldog numbers.

00:53:26.400 All the time.

00:53:27.700 I said this from the word go.

00:53:29.280 I remember the very first podcast, me and Callum covered you.

00:53:32.620 I was like, these guys are fine.

00:53:33.940 Why are they being attacked?

00:53:35.200 And the fact that you just got taken down

00:53:36.640 by the Welsh government, totally unjust.

00:53:40.600 Anyway, let's carry on.

00:53:42.540 Okay, so what Britain needs is a ministry of truth.

00:53:46.600 Ah, the official government position.

00:53:48.560 This is, in fact, the position of the prime minister

00:53:51.220 of the United Kingdom, who announced in the United Nations

00:53:55.940 that there is going to be a National Center for Information Defense.

00:54:01.420 Now, I won't bore you with the video because it's Andy Burnham,

00:54:04.640 but the summary is provided here by Christopher Hope of GB News.

00:54:09.860 This is in response to basically alleged Russian disinformation

00:54:15.540 and alleged Russian intervention in British politics.

00:54:21.020 Russian agencies have used every means at their disposal

00:54:23.780 to spread lies and disinformation

00:54:25.500 and prey on people's fears.

00:54:28.060 They've used bots and fake websites,

00:54:30.260 falsified newspaper articles.

00:54:32.200 Anyway, but what this centre is supposed to do

00:54:36.320 is to prevent distorted and untrue narratives about Britain,

00:54:40.700 such as what your own eyes can see.

00:54:45.080 These are the narratives that are not permitted.

00:54:47.260 I like that we're going to have an official truth

00:54:49.980 that comes from the state now.

00:54:51.680 This is precisely what it is.

00:54:55.300 It's truth, though.

00:54:56.320 Well, exactly.

00:54:57.580 Exactly.

00:54:58.760 And so this is cast as a national security issue, and this is something that we have consistently seen throughout the West.

00:55:08.920 And I just want to put this in context because I want to highlight a few other countries that have had this kind of campaign against Russian disinformation.

00:55:19.080 Oddly enough, the targets of these campaigns are invariably patriotic people who think that their country is actually theirs.

00:55:27.940 Not people who are Russian.

00:55:29.400 Not people who are Russians.

00:55:30.420 It's weird, isn't it?

00:55:31.240 It's really funny.

00:55:32.140 It's really funny how it goes.

00:55:34.280 So you have the New York Times, the Auguste New York Times, explaining how the AFD in Germany is too close to the Russians.

00:55:44.220 And as a result, the Germans, to preserve their democracy, are going to block the alternative for Germany, who won the government of Saxony-Anhalt.

00:55:53.980 We've covered that on the show a couple of times.

00:55:56.060 They will no longer be allowed to see intelligence regarding Russian subterfuge in Europe, but others will sort of still see it.

00:56:05.600 The Germans are going to change the rules governing interstate cooperation within Germany, which currently require unanimity between the 16 state governments to prevent AFD officials from paralyzing policing programs that cross state lines.

00:56:23.380 And they are going to prevent AFD in Saxony-Anhalt, which is under federal surveillance, from viewing intelligence files related to the party and investigations into far-right extremists.

00:56:34.740 This is how you know the AFD is not just a part of the establishment.

00:56:37.820 Exactly.

00:56:38.280 The entire establishment draws back and says, not you.

00:56:40.780 Using the intelligence services that are meant to be targeting Russians.

00:56:44.900 Yes.

00:56:45.300 But by targeting the AFD as being pro-Russian,

00:56:48.700 you can then turn the intelligence services against the domestic population

00:56:53.320 and their representatives.

00:56:55.580 Which is their actual aim.

00:56:57.160 Which is the actual aim.

00:56:58.500 It's the first time the Germans have done this, though, is it?

00:57:00.280 and they've been going on about this stuff for some time.

00:57:05.420 This is a lovely Canadian university here

00:57:08.660 that is coming up with a Canadian news website, whatever,

00:57:13.800 and they're explaining that really the far-right AFD

00:57:18.740 openly welcomes the Kremlin's anti-liberal,

00:57:21.900 anti-European, and homophobic ideas.

00:57:25.580 They're homophobic while being led by a lesbian

00:57:28.880 partnered with a Sri Lankan.

00:57:30.460 Yeah, but as if the main problem with Russia

00:57:32.700 is the ideological literature it produces.

00:57:36.340 I've never read anything by a Russian.

00:57:38.360 I don't care what the Russians think.

00:57:41.200 But here is how they cast this.

00:57:43.500 I want to sort of focus.

00:57:44.800 I won't bore you with the entirety of this article

00:57:47.440 because it's genuinely boring

00:57:48.880 and you've seen a bunch of them.

00:57:51.580 But Petra Retherman,

00:57:53.960 who is a professor in this benighted place,

00:57:58.880 explains that Russia's nativist stance against immigration, its national patriotism,

00:58:04.780 and its endorsement of Russian Orthodox values appeal to far-right movements other than the AFD,

00:58:12.520 including Marine Le Pen's National Front, Austria's Freedom Party, and Bulgarian President Ruben Radev.

00:58:19.800 In appealing to xenophobic ideas, it seeks to promote destabilization within a given political entity and country.

00:58:26.620 That's remarkable because it's the nativism that will bring stability to the country.

00:58:32.280 The countries are currently unstable because of the internationalism that has been forced upon them.

00:58:37.320 Well, Professor Redman disagrees because she says this is a Russian political strategy of hollowing democracy from the inside out.

00:58:46.980 Oh, you've done this to yourself.

00:58:48.340 Yeah.

00:58:48.700 You're giving the Russians way too much credit.

00:58:50.760 I know, but the whole point is to cast everybody as a Russian agent and then attack them.

00:58:56.620 And you see this way from time magazine, like in case you think that this is sort of just

00:59:04.380 that random 17. Exactly. I've been banging this drum. Exactly. And in the entire time magazine,

00:59:11.340 they go on about how the AFD are beneficiaries of Russian support and all of that stuff.

00:59:16.760 But obviously, you know, they go further than that. So when they talk about hollowing out

00:59:21.660 democracy what they mean is that they do things like this they literally barred the winner of the

00:59:30.780 first round of the romanian presidential election from standing after having annulling after having

00:59:37.460 annulled the results of the vote it was a court that annulled the vote wasn't it yeah and therefore

00:59:42.440 it was a typical european democracy in play no the wrong candidate won we can't have that so

00:59:47.740 that's not hollowing out democracy. Tony Blair today saying that Andy Burnham needs to commit

00:59:54.160 to returning to the European Union is not hollowing out democracy. The EU ignoring the

01:00:00.240 votes of the Irish and the Dutch and the French is not hollowing out democracy. However, winning

01:00:06.480 an election is hollowing out democracy. That's hollowing out democracy. You can't have that.

01:00:12.220 No, how dare you? So they cast him as far right and as being supportive of Russia. And they literally canceled the election because some guy paid $400,000 on ads. That was the premise. And then they leaked an intelligence report that contained no intelligence at all. Or sorry, they declassified an intelligence report that contained absolutely nothing of substance.

01:00:37.220 They used that to cancel the election,

01:00:39.400 and it turns out that it may have been the incumbent party

01:00:44.900 against which he was running that financed the 400,000

01:00:49.580 that were then accused of being Russian.

01:00:54.520 So this is, shall we call it Democracy Manifest?

01:00:58.840 Let's just call it Democracy Manifest.

01:01:00.840 I mean, this is what I expect democracy to look like in Europe, I suppose.

01:01:03.880 It's not their concept, really.

01:01:05.460 It's our concept.

01:01:06.480 I don't see why they'd want it.

01:01:08.940 I don't understand why Romania would want democracy.

01:01:11.260 It's much better off as a monarchy,

01:01:12.580 but that's a different conversation for another time.

01:01:14.860 And now he's under investigation for fraud,

01:01:17.360 and they're trying their best to throw him in jail.

01:01:21.460 I don't know anything about this guy at all.

01:01:24.560 I just know that when all the powers that be

01:01:26.380 are doing all this kind of stuff,

01:01:28.500 it's because he's popular.

01:01:29.500 Yeah, he's probably a good guy.

01:01:30.980 They've been accusing Marine Le Pen

01:01:32.860 of being an agent of the Russians forever.

01:01:35.480 because no bank would lend her money

01:01:38.640 to finance her campaign.

01:01:40.740 Eventually, she found a Russian bank

01:01:42.520 to lend her money.

01:01:43.520 Not the wisest thing to do, to be fair.

01:01:46.440 But they've been, even before that

01:01:50.060 and ever since that,

01:01:51.740 constantly saying,

01:01:52.940 no, no, no, she's a Russian agent.

01:01:54.900 Why?

01:01:55.300 Because she doesn't want to send French people

01:01:57.240 to die in Russia.

01:01:58.980 That's what makes you a Russian agent, you see.

01:02:01.660 Or to die in Ukraine, whatever.

01:02:05.480 So that means that Marine Le Pen is obviously tied to Vladimir Putin.

01:02:12.400 You see them talking about this since forever, 2022, et cetera.

01:02:18.760 Faraj has been accused of this endlessly.

01:02:21.280 He is parroting Kremlin lines because he said that sending British troops to Ukraine

01:02:28.340 might really lead to more escalation than is necessary.

01:02:31.760 um okay it absolutely would i mean well it would literally drag us into a war with russia

01:02:41.920 yeah yes i don't really want a war with russia if if germany was at risk of being overrun by

01:02:50.300 the russians i could understand britain saying we don't want russia controlling the danish straits

01:02:55.860 because then Russia becomes an Atlantic power

01:02:58.600 and that becomes a threat to Britain.

01:03:01.180 I'd get it.

01:03:02.540 Fair enough.

01:03:03.660 But over Ukraine?

01:03:05.120 A few Russian-speaking provinces in Ukraine,

01:03:08.360 I don't really care.

01:03:09.460 No.

01:03:10.240 I mean, why are these places even a part of Ukraine?

01:03:14.200 Because Stalin gave them to Ukraine.

01:03:16.500 Yeah, it was literally because Stalin

01:03:19.020 divided it up that way.

01:03:20.680 I don't care about any of this.

01:03:22.240 Exactly.

01:03:22.560 uh starmer calls out uh nigel farage over his failures to combat racism and pro-russian bribery

01:03:31.540 there was the reform uk wales leader who was uh nathan gill yeah yeah he had taken russian

01:03:36.500 prison now isn't he and he ended up in jail and they totally disavowed him yeah of course but

01:03:41.320 it's not surprising that russia would try to infiltrate any political party in britain use

01:03:46.240 any software that you could exactly that doesn't mean that the correct answer is to go to war with

01:03:51.260 Russia, though. I mean, we're so proud of our soft

01:03:53.300 power, and yet when Russia's using it,

01:03:55.140 they're like, oh God, you know. Yeah, exactly.

01:03:58.260 I'm not in favour

01:03:59.060 of any Russians over here, but like,

01:04:01.080 you know, there's a distinct hypocrisy about

01:04:03.060 all of this. And the reason they say

01:04:05.140 this kind of stuff is now they're attacking

01:04:07.100 Farage for saying

01:04:09.160 actually a Ministry of Truth

01:04:11.020 might not be a good idea.

01:04:13.840 Russian agent.

01:04:14.940 So that kind of proves that

01:04:16.980 if you don't

01:04:19.080 approve of a British Pravda,

01:04:20.900 Then obviously you're a Russian agent

01:04:22.820 The logic is completely circular

01:04:26.240 The logic is entirely circular

01:04:27.860 But people believe this stuff

01:04:29.540 This is the thing that always wrecks me

01:04:31.220 Is that people will read this and go

01:04:32.540 You know, as if it's fact

01:04:34.820 It does appear that they want to push us

01:04:36.760 Into a war with Russia though

01:04:38.080 And they're going from every angle

01:04:40.220 We've been covering this

01:04:41.840 We've been speaking about this

01:04:42.760 It's crazy

01:04:43.300 British researchers say

01:04:46.300 Russia may have tried to influence the Brexit vote

01:04:49.440 Imagine how, just how, think about how, like, flimsy that sentence is.

01:04:54.300 They may have tried to influence, or did they have voters?

01:04:59.800 If the answer's no, shut up.

01:05:01.320 Yeah.

01:05:01.700 Like, I'm sorry, God.

01:05:02.900 But these media work like that, don't they?

01:05:04.900 All they need to be is one person say to them,

01:05:07.100 oh, I think Russia may have tried to influence a Brexit vote.

01:05:09.380 Oh, we got our source.

01:05:10.440 You know, and then the headline.

01:05:11.960 And how did they do it?

01:05:12.800 They used thousands of Twitter accounts.

01:05:14.980 i mean with tradecraft like that how can how does democracy stand a chance really again i mean

01:05:22.720 there's some guy baying into the wilderness on x that is a fucking threat to democracy i really do

01:05:29.580 think they give the russians far too much credit if that was the plan you know what i mean i bet

01:05:33.680 putin's loving it yeah i'm doing all of this i didn't know yeah i didn't know this uh and it's

01:05:40.800 quite dangerous that they're doing this while they're

01:05:42.820 preparing for a war with Russia

01:05:44.120 and getting people on TV to say

01:05:46.760 if you don't want to go and die in Donbass

01:05:49.180 because you don't know where the Donbass is

01:05:51.060 you should be thrown in jail

01:05:52.240 This is insane

01:05:53.660 This was the Fabian, wasn't it?

01:05:57.200 This was the Fabian guy

01:05:58.380 who then came

01:06:00.000 There were photos of him, I don't want to talk about them

01:06:02.340 We're going to lock up tens of thousands of British patriots

01:06:04.640 because they don't want to be conscripted

01:06:06.140 You don't have the prison capacity for that

01:06:08.380 No, they're full of asylum seekers

01:06:10.280 Exactly.

01:06:11.040 And the amount of people

01:06:12.000 that would push back

01:06:12.880 against conscriptions

01:06:13.540 that they'd never be able to do that.

01:06:15.180 Exactly.

01:06:15.680 And I would be remiss

01:06:16.500 if I didn't mention

01:06:17.260 the Russia collusion hoax

01:06:18.460 with Trump

01:06:19.040 and all of that circus intended.

01:06:22.140 The pissed dossier

01:06:22.800 from Christopher Steele,

01:06:24.380 all of the lies.

01:06:25.820 Because Russia is such

01:06:26.860 a convenient boogeyman

01:06:27.660 because no one in the West

01:06:28.420 is actually sympathetic to Russia.

01:06:30.000 No.

01:06:30.360 Russia looks like a giant evil empire

01:06:31.940 and it had done

01:06:32.580 all through the 20th century.

01:06:33.980 So it's like,

01:06:34.500 oh, you don't know anything

01:06:35.280 about Russia.

01:06:35.820 Aren't they scary?

01:06:36.400 It's like,

01:06:36.900 yeah, they are kind of scary, I guess.

01:06:38.560 So they do look like

01:06:39.280 a giant opaque evil empire

01:06:40.880 from the outside.

01:06:41.520 I'm sure they are.

01:06:42.180 You know, who cares?

01:06:43.060 But they're miles away

01:06:43.780 and they're not coming over here.

01:06:45.660 Yeah.

01:06:46.020 Well, you see their military adverts.

01:06:48.460 Yeah, exactly.

01:06:49.480 And you see their military adverts

01:06:50.920 and, you know, they're tough men.

01:06:52.520 You see our military adverts

01:06:53.780 and it's protecting the Muslim prey

01:06:55.080 and, you know, in Afghanistan.

01:06:57.100 They've got pink hair, yeah.

01:06:57.640 Yeah, yeah.

01:06:58.500 So it is that optic boogeyman.

01:07:00.440 It's easy.

01:07:00.980 But, like, by the actual numbers,

01:07:02.720 like, the Russian military

01:07:03.600 has done terribly in Ukraine.

01:07:04.760 Yeah.

01:07:05.280 Everyone, you know,

01:07:05.880 something like 800,000 casualties.

01:07:07.500 They've taken a very small amount

01:07:09.000 of territory compared to actually the size of ukraine and russia is a country with a declining

01:07:13.380 population anyway countries with declining populations can't sustain long-term wars of

01:07:18.220 attrition which is all the russians have ever fought yes is wars of attrition so it's like

01:07:22.680 this i'm just not worried about the russians conquering anything frankly yeah not worried

01:07:27.280 about us conquering anything either but you know yeah different conversation and this is happening

01:07:32.840 all over the eu this clamp down on free speech all over the eu in australia in new zealand in

01:07:38.640 Canada. It's the same story. The EU now makes sure that they have a way of reading your messages

01:07:45.620 whenever you send them. That's kind of substantial. That's kind of dangerous.

01:07:51.520 They basically pretty much ended any kind of free speech. They're fining X left and right because

01:08:00.180 X is allowing stories that they don't approve of. And it's always under the rubric of, oh,

01:08:07.700 there's foreign interference, there's foreign interference.

01:08:10.200 It's the same story.

01:08:11.780 I mean, Russia is genuinely becoming Europe's Goldstein.

01:08:15.460 It's just that, no, here's the boogeyman figure.

01:08:17.860 You're not the boogeyman figure, are you?

01:08:20.000 And it's like, oh, yeah, no, I don't want that.

01:08:22.060 And every freedom, every liberty can be taken away.

01:08:24.900 Well, they've just sort of passed digital ID as well.

01:08:28.320 Let's not forget that.

01:08:29.580 You have to prove your age by verifying your identity

01:08:33.620 on all kinds of social media platforms,

01:08:37.680 gaming, AI tools, even Spotify.

01:08:40.900 You need to verify your age by showing your ID.

01:08:44.760 Okay.

01:08:46.200 Starmer was working-

01:08:47.420 Wasn't it Yeltsin who said that the Europeans

01:08:49.060 are recreating the Soviet Union?

01:08:50.580 Yes.

01:08:51.180 What a prophecy.

01:08:54.020 Anyway, sorry, go on.

01:08:55.280 Yeah.

01:08:56.880 Starmer was talking to the Canadians

01:08:58.660 and the Australians to ban X.

01:09:01.180 Let's not forget that.

01:09:03.620 Australia is doing the same exact thing.

01:09:06.880 You have to have your identity verified as in digital ID

01:09:10.880 because they don't want to allow any kind of online anonymity

01:09:15.040 because then people like you might actually speak the truth.

01:09:18.560 Yeah, yeah.

01:09:19.200 And we wouldn't want any of that around here.

01:09:21.860 But why are they all bringing in the digital ID then?

01:09:24.240 Because I thought we were bringing it in to stop the boats.

01:09:26.280 So why are they all bringing it in?

01:09:27.280 Yeah, great question.

01:09:28.200 Coincidence, it just happened, you know?

01:09:30.580 And remember that in the Epstein emails,

01:09:33.200 when he was communicating with the CEO of the World Economic Forum

01:09:38.980 who was speaking to Macron,

01:09:40.940 they were talking about the importance of censorship

01:09:43.960 and controlling the discussion and things like that from 2017

01:09:48.120 because it was that online discussion that allowed Trump to emerge

01:09:53.940 and that allowed Brexit to happen.

01:09:56.340 For anyone wondering, the reason they're doing this

01:09:58.840 is because the international managerial technocracy,

01:10:04.200 its lifeblood is information.

01:10:06.640 And so the more it knows about any individual person

01:10:09.040 and patterns of people and groups of people,

01:10:11.480 then the more decisions, the better informed

01:10:14.880 and quicker its decisions can be made.

01:10:16.660 That's the reason.

01:10:17.980 That's why they want total panoptical control

01:10:21.300 and observation over the entire society.

01:10:24.020 It's because everything they do is,

01:10:25.900 and then they've got, right, I've got my spreadsheets,

01:10:27.420 I've got my databases,

01:10:28.580 I can actually make decisions now.

01:10:30.100 Yeah, data is more valuable than money and cash.

01:10:32.760 Yeah, yeah, 100%.

01:10:34.060 And it's international.

01:10:36.720 You see it in South Korea.

01:10:37.860 You see it in Brazil under the communist Lula.

01:10:41.420 South Korea, this is after they got rid

01:10:43.360 of the right-wing government for having tried a coup,

01:10:46.200 which I had hoped would have succeeded,

01:10:47.860 but that's a different story for another time.

01:10:50.020 So this isn't by any means a Britain-only thing.

01:10:53.740 Problem is, Britain already has a wealth of various government entities that are exclusively dedicated to policing speech and to controlling what people say.

01:11:07.700 There is no need for another one by any means.

01:11:12.120 There is the National Security Online Information Team. There is the Government Communication Service. There is the Media Monitoring Unit, which there is the RICO, which is the nudge unit that when one of your family members gets raped or murdered by a migrant, they will show up to tell you not to look back in anger. That's their main job.

01:11:35.920 There is a Defending Democracy Task Force.

01:11:38.580 There is a Joint Election Security and Preparedness Unit.

01:11:42.000 There is a unit out of the FCDO.

01:11:44.320 There are the actual security agencies.

01:11:46.600 And then there's the Social Cohesion Task Force.

01:11:48.820 Now, just in a couple of minutes,

01:11:50.220 I'm going to give you very brief overviews of them.

01:11:53.060 The Counter Disinformation Unit,

01:11:54.420 these guys basically go through all of the media

01:11:59.920 and all of what is being said in public.

01:12:04.500 They then use AI and civil servants then decide how to rebut social media posts, flag posts to have them taken down, or promotion of public health campaigns.

01:12:16.980 That was the whole COVID thing.

01:12:18.820 So this is a ministry of truth with reach into the intelligence services and coordination with the intelligence services intended to tell you what to think and to manage how you think.

01:12:31.300 but it's failing. So you need more of them. Now there are more of them. This is the government

01:12:37.200 communications unit. It sets up meetings, say in Camden to talk about integration and things like

01:12:44.160 that, to talk about climate and transport, to talk about what have you. Then this whole stuff

01:12:50.440 gets collated and sent to the government and presented as policy. They select the panel,

01:12:56.540 they select the talking points, then they tell the government what to do. So this is already

01:13:01.980 underway. RICO, literally a propaganda unit inspired by the Cold War, except that it's

01:13:08.880 actually inspired by the Soviets. Oh yeah, inspired by the Cold War, not the Allies.

01:13:15.020 Exactly. It's inspired by the Soviets. Nevermind. Nevermind. These operations are aimed at Muslims,

01:13:23.120 supposedly both in britain and the middle east except that in reality uh the threshold that it

01:13:29.500 has for targeting uh british right-wingers is insanely lower than the threshold it has to

01:13:36.160 target muslims which is why they're obsessed with the british right wing which is why so few amounts

01:13:41.600 of like you know terror or real trouble come out of the british right there are loads of

01:13:46.180 terrorist attacks from the muslims what's the title there that is uh the propaganda unit behind

01:13:52.380 Labour's extremism report, because this was set up by a former MI6 officer to give consistently

01:13:59.060 clear and appropriate communications, but it appears anything but transparent, according to

01:14:03.480 The Telegraph. And here, what they show, basically, is that, firstly, nobody knows what it actually

01:14:11.480 does, but its job is to covertly engineer the thoughts of people. This is a very standard

01:14:18.480 doctrine within the managerial technocracy now yes because it became apparent that actually you

01:14:23.720 can just incentivize people to get most of them to do the thing that you want and all you need is

01:14:29.320 most people doing the thing that you want for the system to function it's actually okay to permit

01:14:33.740 like a small number of people who don't do what you want just ignore them they're not the majority

01:14:38.280 of the people they're not the the general flow of direction of travel so it doesn't really matter

01:14:42.740 they'll eventually get whittled down and filtered out as things go so the entire i mean this is what

01:14:47.420 will nudge units entire purposes. But this is the philosophy that pervades the managerial

01:14:51.460 technocracy. And it sort of sits in the idea that people have a false consciousness, which is a

01:14:56.920 fundamentally Marxist concept. And it basically, if we were to just control their flow of information,

01:15:03.020 they would have the right kind of consciousness, which would always support our policies of

01:15:09.200 apparently infinity immigration, because that's what the system does. A home office report

01:15:14.360 recommended that police, from RICU,

01:15:16.640 recommended that police should record

01:15:18.160 more non-crime hate incidents.

01:15:22.780 The review called a rapid sprint

01:15:24.900 was ordered by Yvette Cooper,

01:15:26.460 remember her, the home secretary at the time,

01:15:29.640 part of a new counter-extremist strategy,

01:15:32.720 but it was leaked to policy exchange.

01:15:35.680 And when it was reviewed, basically,

01:15:38.540 it was found that it just focuses on people

01:15:44.240 that it calls far-right, like our good guests here.

01:15:49.600 So you are the target, and I'm proud to be sitting next to you.

01:15:54.000 It's important to remember as well, though,

01:15:55.560 is that the immigrants are the way the system buttresses itself

01:15:58.620 and gives itself validation for the things that it does.

01:16:01.580 The far-right is the only threat to the system

01:16:03.260 because we're the people who disagree with it.

01:16:04.980 But the immigrants will never, ever bite the hands that feeds them.

01:16:08.560 So the more immigrants they have, the more justification they have

01:16:11.060 for more and more apparatus to swaddle the immigrants

01:16:15.060 through our own country.

01:16:16.500 They will when there's enough of them.

01:16:18.080 They will bite their hand when there's enough of them.

01:16:20.200 But as far as they're concerned, they'll never.

01:16:21.940 No, they don't believe it.

01:16:23.240 You have to think of the idea.

01:16:24.320 They want to dissolve the church.

01:16:26.280 They want to dissolve you as a nation, Wales, England,

01:16:29.140 because if there is no more identity of one...

01:16:33.920 Yeah, yeah, spot on.

01:16:36.160 What would you be objecting to them on the grounds of?

01:16:38.240 so basically there was an independent look at rico and the person who uh had a look at it said

01:16:45.960 he found the unit to be of particular concern identifying an inconsistency when it came to

01:16:52.100 the way it viewed islamism ideology and the extreme right the bar for what rico includes

01:16:57.680 on islamism looks to be relatively high whereas the bar for what is included on the extreme right

01:17:02.680 wing is comparably low like the voice of wales facebook post yeah yeah yep yep yep training for

01:17:09.860 staff in the unit had included an essay by the charity hope not hate which cited the work of

01:17:16.460 the late rod liddell melanie phillips and douglas murray as contributing to negative views about

01:17:21.840 islam and muslims via the pages of mainstream publications i mean like the quran true i suppose

01:17:27.620 anyway then there's the defending democracy task force this was set up by rishi sunak

01:17:34.180 and uh their job according to tom tuganat who was the security minister at the time

01:17:40.500 is to stop attempts by foreign states to influence elections like if a few twitter posts change the

01:17:47.060 election the whole system is so shaky it shouldn't even be there it's it discredits the system to

01:17:54.380 claim that a bunch of posts on x are going to completely undermine it yeah that's what's being

01:17:59.320 admitted it's all good for them mind in the run-up to the worst elections plague cymru it was they

01:18:04.240 were found to have thousands of indian bots working on their campaign of course you know

01:18:09.760 but so it's all right for them yes yes disinformation information operations cyber

01:18:14.420 attacks interference in political parties transnational repression conducted by foreign

01:18:19.500 governments within the UK. That should be a serious concern, but putting it on the same

01:18:24.200 footing as Twitter posts seems a bit crazy. And then it is going to focus also on harassment

01:18:32.460 and intimidation of candidates, threats against elected representatives, security at elections,

01:18:37.100 but also online abuse and democratic participation, calling MPs names. And you know which one is

01:18:44.780 going to be prioritized. Then there's the Joint Security Preparedness, Election Security Preparedness

01:18:50.220 Unit. I'm so screwed. I could just go on and on about this. There are so many of these bodies,

01:18:58.080 but I think the important thing here is what it does, because according to Baroness Taylor,

01:19:07.200 the Joint Election Security and Preparedness Unit remains active and continues to convene

01:19:13.080 Cross-government meetings attended by representatives from government departments, technical authorities, the UK intelligence community, devolved administrations, the police and the electoral commission.

01:19:27.540 So basically, the intelligence services are sitting down discussing domestic narratives because they accuse these narratives of being inspired by Russia.

01:19:38.260 That's what's admitted here.

01:19:39.940 I saw West Streeting yesterday going on, I think it was Sky News.

01:19:42.380 and he claimed

01:19:43.680 we are not interested

01:19:44.840 in domestic dissidents

01:19:46.900 so I don't believe that

01:19:48.280 for a second

01:19:49.080 nope

01:19:49.360 you've been nothing but

01:19:50.980 right up until this moment

01:19:52.580 is it Wes

01:19:53.220 yep

01:19:53.760 bollocks

01:19:54.580 yep

01:19:55.800 for the sake of time

01:19:56.340 we're going to have to

01:19:57.100 wrap it up

01:19:57.760 alright let's wrap it up

01:19:58.940 anyway

01:19:59.600 here is another one

01:20:00.760 information threats

01:20:01.720 and influence director

01:20:02.700 yep

01:20:03.020 this is a huge

01:20:06.140 government machinery

01:20:07.080 already

01:20:07.880 and Andy Burnham

01:20:09.040 I mean what's he doing

01:20:10.120 centralizing all of these

01:20:11.420 into one body

01:20:12.140 Just adding one word, it looks like, maybe centralizing it.

01:20:15.600 But what basically this does is all it does is provide an excuse for the state to target domestic dissidents by saying somebody tweeted a Russian talking point, which is something along the lines of Jacob Rees-Mogg is insane for wanting British people to die in Donbass.

01:20:36.140 Yes. That kind of criticism becomes an international threat. Therefore, the intelligence agencies that are meant to focus on foreign threats can be turned inwards.

01:20:49.360 If you say immigration is destroying society, or the church is the only solution for modern problems, or anything of those things, you are adopting Kremlin talking points that undermine our democracy.

01:21:05.600 You are therefore a target for the intelligence services.

01:21:08.000 And the intelligence services are sitting across the table from pretty much every government body, from local councils, and here they're complaining that they're not talking enough to local councils, from local councils all the way to devolved governments all the way to the national government.

01:21:26.940 And what this does is securitize everything because every single opinion is now a matter of national security.

01:21:34.140 If you don't agree with the state, you are a national security threat.

01:21:38.000 Therefore, like Tommy Robinson, like Danny Tomo,

01:21:42.080 you will be arrested and the full force of the law will be thrown at you.

01:21:46.160 Whereas whenever you complain, there are other government departments like RICU

01:21:50.260 who are there to nudge you to adopt the correct opinion

01:21:54.300 and not make a fuss about your family being murdered and raped.

01:21:58.760 Yeah, it's a thought umbrella.

01:22:00.660 And the thing is, even with the existing 10 bodies doing this,

01:22:06.840 The system is failing so miserably

01:22:09.060 that Andy Burnham is going to the United Nations

01:22:11.820 to announce that there's going to be

01:22:13.280 another organization doing the same thing.

01:22:16.840 So they already have a wealth of organizations doing it.

01:22:20.880 They're all failing.

01:22:22.580 And they're failing because people like you

01:22:24.720 are watching Voice of Wales

01:22:25.940 and watching the Lotus Eaters

01:22:27.340 and are trying to see,

01:22:29.820 okay, this country is going in a horrific direction.

01:22:32.480 Turns out the internet's a big place.

01:22:34.240 Yeah.

01:22:34.400 and you can't police it.

01:22:39.080 We'll leave that there.

01:22:40.600 Can we go to the video comments, please, Samson?

01:22:43.760 The Engage View says, if I can see that,

01:22:46.580 the British RICO is more like the American RICO.

01:22:48.780 It's a racket.

01:22:49.980 Yeah, no, I agree.

01:22:50.900 I agree.

01:22:51.220 I mean, all of this is ideological technocracy,

01:22:55.340 the ideological technocracy in securing

01:22:58.560 and solidifying its own power over the society

01:23:01.180 that is currently in the process of rejecting it,

01:23:03.340 Incidentally.

01:23:04.960 Migrants don't have to verify anything,

01:23:06.540 but what about when they become British?

01:23:07.820 Well, great question.

01:23:09.120 And J.M. Denton says,

01:23:10.340 fire a Russian agent.

01:23:11.480 I'd be pushing for the West to adopt green energy

01:23:13.460 and abandon manufacturing.

01:23:15.400 Yeah, that would be exactly what the Russians would ask for.

01:23:18.460 And what the Chinese would ask for.

01:23:19.900 Because you're paying them for the green energy.

01:23:21.640 Profoundly weak.

01:23:22.620 Yes.

01:23:23.080 Like our energy is insecure

01:23:24.860 and we don't have any manufacturing.

01:23:26.760 Yep.

01:23:27.940 Okay.

01:23:28.660 Well, that wasn't smart, was it?

01:23:30.240 Yeah.

01:23:30.960 Out of all of the people that say they are Russian agents,

01:23:33.120 the Bulgarians would be

01:23:34.340 everyone else

01:23:35.500 are too liberal

01:23:36.140 in the US

01:23:39.200 it seems like

01:23:39.700 even our libtards

01:23:40.440 think that Russian smears

01:23:41.360 are a bit hard to believe

01:23:42.220 how is this low IQ

01:23:43.540 smear still working

01:23:44.440 in Europe

01:23:44.780 I assume it's not

01:23:45.820 I assume it's proximity though

01:23:47.240 yeah

01:23:47.660 you're a lot closer

01:23:48.940 to the Russians

01:23:49.620 if you're in Germany

01:23:50.700 yeah

01:23:51.180 but yeah

01:23:51.920 I mean the fact

01:23:52.440 that they're trying it here

01:23:53.160 it's just embarrassing

01:23:54.520 frankly

01:23:55.260 yeah

01:23:55.920 and we know it

01:23:56.640 we know it's happening

01:23:57.240 Danny Tomo

01:23:57.900 Shabana Mahmood

01:23:58.680 came up

01:23:59.280 she said

01:23:59.700 he's going to feel

01:24:00.500 a full force of the law

01:24:01.300 at the point

01:24:01.860 he hadn't done anything wrong

01:24:02.660 yeah

01:24:03.120 So what law?

01:24:04.340 You know, what's he done wrong?

01:24:06.060 The anti-racism law, you see.

01:24:07.840 The anti-wrong opinions law.

01:24:09.180 Exactly, yeah.

01:24:10.200 But that also shows you that actually it is just the eye of Sauron.

01:24:13.240 Now, I don't apply the law where I'm not looking.

01:24:14.920 I only apply the law where there is a public conflagration.

01:24:18.700 Anyway, let's play the first video.

01:24:21.920 I think there's only one today.

01:24:23.880 We just got the pleasure and the privilege of getting a tour of the Pentagon.

01:24:26.800 And what a cool experience.

01:24:28.380 It's you guys who etch your names in history

01:24:31.240 as you fight for and allow us in this country

01:24:35.340 to have that freedom where we can prosper and be happy

01:24:39.020 and be the great nation that we are.

01:24:41.360 This is the greatest country in the world.

01:24:44.680 That's weird.

01:24:46.320 Is that real?

01:24:47.520 Yes.

01:24:47.960 It is.

01:24:48.760 I don't know why they took them to the White House.

01:24:52.220 I don't know what the intended effect was.

01:24:54.060 I think the Americans have a great army and a great respect.

01:24:57.580 Yeah.

01:24:58.500 Yes, but...

01:24:59.620 Why do you want Jake Paul on board?

01:25:00.940 Yeah.

01:25:01.500 Yes, thank you.

01:25:02.880 That was my question.

01:25:03.900 Yeah.

01:25:05.480 All right, where were we?

01:25:06.540 Here we go.

01:25:07.380 So Omar says,

01:25:08.960 the number of illegals in this country is a drop in the bucket.

01:25:11.900 So if it were just about having more foreigners in the country,

01:25:13.800 it doesn't make sense.

01:25:14.620 That's a great point.

01:25:15.700 The only conclusion I can draw is that someone is making so much money

01:25:18.320 from the asylum industrial complex,

01:25:19.720 but it's worth throwing millions in resources to perpetuate it.

01:25:22.860 I don't doubt that is the base upon which all of this is built.

01:25:27.360 but i do think there's a genuine sincere belief that they have to beat the racists

01:25:31.560 and save the immigrants i think genuinely the people involved are like oh god those evil racists

01:25:36.580 will prevent the rapists from getting into the country it's like well we've got to do something

01:25:39.960 about that like i genuinely like i genuinely think they are actually committed they are high

01:25:44.800 or are they just marxists like in wales you know that's what i mean yeah emotionally ideologically

01:25:49.580 they genuinely believe that they genuinely believe yeah um so slashing a boat after giving fair

01:25:55.880 warning is bad but stabbing a teenager at night well that it's just another news item i'm afraid

01:26:00.860 um look at the pure industry dedicated to the perverse paradigm of replacement from the ngos

01:26:06.360 to the lifeboats the police escorts it's almost like wartime levels of commitment why are they

01:26:11.180 doing this to us yes honestly it's a great question though so i'd love to be able to sit

01:26:16.120 down and actually have a conversation with someone who has orchestrated this yes it's like why did

01:26:20.960 you think you needed to do this what made you do it um michael says carl talking about the warnings

01:26:26.900 given servicemen i remember when we attended a nato wide training school the sas guys were

01:26:31.400 extremely wary of having their pictures taken because the americans had a reputation as being

01:26:35.160 ira supporters which is true i can say to a man none of us were but the fact that one sympathizer

01:26:40.020 mike docks fell a soldier was sadly a problem and well the ira was heavily funded by american money

01:26:44.260 so yeah

01:26:45.400 no one cares

01:26:46.500 about foreign interference

01:26:47.380 then

01:26:47.700 ZibbD says

01:26:50.280 your ancestors

01:26:50.940 were orcs

01:26:51.460 trust me bro

01:26:52.060 despite there being

01:26:52.780 seven ice ages

01:26:53.700 in the last two million years

01:26:54.740 when the Numenoreans

01:26:55.440 could have completely evolved

01:26:56.340 independently of orcs

01:26:57.480 and have lower IQs

01:26:58.260 and still lived in huts

01:26:58.960 when we found them

01:26:59.700 seriously

01:27:00.720 seriously bro

01:27:01.840 trust this mock-up

01:27:02.740 I made of cheddar orc

01:27:03.960 that is brilliant

01:27:07.800 yeah

01:27:08.260 Arizona Deserat said

01:27:10.140 Costa Rica

01:27:10.620 tried to play the

01:27:11.320 let's pay farmers

01:27:12.200 to plant new trees scheme

01:27:13.400 it colossally backfired

01:27:15.620 as farmers tore up

01:27:16.460 the old established rainforest

01:27:17.340 to make room for a new plant

01:27:18.440 a bunch of new trees

01:27:19.220 creating an arboreal

01:27:20.940 monocrop disaster

01:27:21.920 I'm surprised they even did that

01:27:23.260 I'm surprised they didn't

01:27:23.780 just take the money and run

01:27:24.720 yeah

01:27:25.140 you know

01:27:25.500 that's what I would have expected

01:27:26.520 Dreadnought Logan says

01:27:29.360 Carl unfortunately

01:27:29.980 the real reason

01:27:30.580 is far more mundane

01:27:31.380 it's meta

01:27:32.320 a leftist uncovered

01:27:33.600 well over 144

01:27:34.940 shell NGOs

01:27:36.200 that are tasked

01:27:37.360 with pushing

01:27:38.400 age reverification

01:27:40.260 right okay

01:27:41.880 I've not even seen that

01:27:42.640 but yeah

01:27:43.000 There are doubtless companies within companies to hide trails.

01:27:48.160 Hector says, all of Putin's people are getting bonuses

01:27:50.400 and they have no clue why they're getting credit.

01:27:55.860 Excellent.

01:27:57.920 Excellent.

01:27:58.800 Peter comes and slaps you on the back, you know,

01:28:00.560 well done, comrade.

01:28:02.860 Yeah, thanks.

01:28:05.540 Alex says, we should stress test their ministry of truth

01:28:08.220 by expressing hate facts about migrant crime.

01:28:10.020 It'll either force them to not enforce truth

01:28:12.200 or it will force them to actually produce the data

01:28:14.560 so they can prosecute people for misinformation.

01:28:16.640 That's the thing.

01:28:17.380 I had this in the segment, but for time purposes.

01:28:19.840 The biggest purveyor of false news is the government.

01:28:24.300 Yeah.

01:28:24.680 And they're going to court to prevent the release of data on migrant crime.

01:28:29.500 Imagine going to court for this and at the same time

01:28:33.060 saying we actually need a ministry of truth.

01:28:36.120 Yes.

01:28:37.880 And then they call us extremists.

01:28:40.460 Furious Dan has got a great comment here.

01:28:41.900 And it really does summarize, like, you know,

01:28:43.340 Tommy Robinson, he has been to Russia

01:28:46.020 because the Russians are like,

01:28:47.000 what's happening with the grooming gags?

01:28:48.480 And so he's given presentations saying, this happened.

01:28:52.660 Why is he not giving these presentations in England?

01:28:54.980 Great question, because he's constantly de-platformed

01:28:57.360 from, say, the Oxford Union

01:28:59.040 when he's trying to give a presentation there.

01:29:02.960 But Furious Dan's got a great point.

01:29:05.020 Wanting to resist an invasion as a Russian PSYOP

01:29:07.540 is an absolutely bonkers assertion.

01:29:09.660 and that's brilliant what it boils down to the base of it if you are not happy with the way

01:29:14.560 that your country is being run and the fact that they're bringing in millions of people but also

01:29:18.740 thousands of illegals you have somehow been psyoped by the russians this is xenophobic

01:29:23.560 nationalism that originates in the kremlin it's like are you mental are you mental like

01:29:28.460 god damn it man um yeah so that's just mad and uh zibidi again uh has posted a write-up by someone

01:29:36.660 who spent a summer with Putin in Paris

01:29:38.820 who's apparently training with a KGB.

01:29:41.380 Very interesting insight into him

01:29:42.760 and doesn't sound like a monster at all.

01:29:44.560 Well, I don't know.

01:29:45.420 I mean, he kills journalists,

01:29:47.960 so I'm not going to comment anymore on that.

01:29:49.920 But I don't know anything about Putin.

01:29:53.120 I don't care about Russia at all.

01:29:55.200 And I think they're just using Russia

01:29:57.080 as a boogeyman

01:29:58.240 to excuse everything they're doing to us.

01:30:01.340 That's genuinely my opinion.

01:30:03.060 Anyway, Voice of Wales,

01:30:04.640 where can people find more from you?

01:30:06.080 Yeah, so we're on X at VO Wales Official on Facebook, Voice of Wales 2026.

01:30:12.040 Scylla?

01:30:12.740 I'm Val Scylla.

01:30:13.580 You can find me on X under Val Scylla.

01:30:15.260 Okay.

01:30:16.040 And we will be back in half an hour to discuss Jacob Rees-Mogg's abolition of the English identity.

01:30:22.920 So we will see you there and see you then.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - September 24, 2026

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