The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1549

00:00:00 Hello and welcome to the podcast Lotus Seaters episode 1549. I'm your host Harry, joined today

00:00:06 by The Stelios and The Nate, otherwise known as Mr. H Reviews. Thank you very much for coming on

00:00:12 today. Also known as Brother Nate. Also known as Brother Nate and Cousin Stelios. And today we're

00:00:19 going to be talking about the EU on the brink. We're going to be talking about NVIDIA being on

00:00:24 the brink and dc and james gunn being on the brink but before i get into any of that we've got

00:00:32 lads hour later on today where dan is going to be taking us on a trip through memory lane

00:00:37 and making us all retake our gcse's that's right me nate and luca will all be forced to see how

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00:00:49 i'm very bored this is an actual accurate representation of me sat in further maths in

00:00:53 year 11 uh nate's enjoying himself i assume he's planning on uh throwing things at the back of my

00:00:59 head uh but that should be a really really fun one so tune in for that if you are subscribed to

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00:01:27 the box is not working is my box working let me see i'm just gonna have to use the mouse

00:01:35 okay my box worked is the box working now

00:01:39 right okay editors

00:01:45 youtube sign it's funny is that the youtube sign the youtube sign well they're just gonna

00:01:52 you're giving them a lot of editing material to work with their stellios mate right okay so the

00:01:58 eu is a very confusing organization occasionally they're gonna say something i'm in complete

00:02:05 agreement with but then they're gonna contradict it in either rhetoric or action here's an example

00:02:11 ursula von der leyen said that mass migration is a problem when it comes from the border

00:02:19 separating poland from belarus and that putin's russia is weaponizing migration flows in order

00:02:25 to destabilize europe should get a handle on that then yeah destabilizing europe yes so personally

00:02:33 i think one faced like millions and millions in fines from the eu for refusing to have a refugee

00:02:38 scheme we'll get there and hungary eventually right so she said this and i think that she is

00:02:48 a far-right extremist basically because this is the same rhetoric we are using essentially

00:02:54 and we're called we are uh you know these accusations are directed towards us for saying

00:03:00 the same thing about other borders not just the borders separating poland from belarus but we are

00:03:08 saying this for other borders such as the borders separating spain from morocco in seuto the spanish

00:03:15 exclave in north africa and it's the same thing when we're saying this with other sides such as

00:03:23 countries from the middle east that want to weaponize migration flows in order to destabilize

00:03:28 europe and not just europe so for some reason in ursula von der leyen's mind the same rhetoric

00:03:37 when it has to do with the Poland-Belarus border

00:03:40 is common sense centrism.

00:03:43 But when it comes to any other borders of the EU

00:03:46 and any other side,

00:03:48 any side other than Putin's Russia,

00:03:50 that's again far-right extremism.

00:03:52 The same rhetoric.

00:03:54 Right, so...

00:03:55 We call them CCs, convenient contradictions.

00:03:59 Yeah, how very convenient.

00:04:04 Here we have this article by Operator.

00:04:07 didn't realize i was the audience to a duo act right now we're allowed to have some fun right

00:04:13 we're gonna go mad within years no right this is operation migrant right inside the russian

00:04:20 smuggling scheme moving middle easterners and africans into the eu question why would they do

00:04:27 so only from that border why would they not do it from any other border why would it be far-right 0.77

00:04:34 extremism to say that they could do this very thing from other borders right routes for the

00:04:42 illegal movement of people across the belarusian border continue to operate with migrant flows

00:04:47 coordinated by russia's fsd wait stop for a moment still yes i'm really really confused for a moment

00:04:52 right that um why wouldn't russia just keep them all to themselves it was the they're doctors and

00:04:58 engineers yeah i mean surely thank you russia this is a great enrichment of the european union

00:05:06 yeah russia's being very very generous and giving us all of these migrants uh instead of keeping

00:05:11 them all to themselves if we could put the cricket sounds effect that would be particularly pertinent

00:05:16 right here we have this my act apparently does not stand up to natan stelios

00:05:23 no it's just that i don't think there's a good answer yeah nothing to do with something bad you

00:05:29 said right here we have reuters talking about an eu report about russian disinformation networks

00:05:37 spewing propaganda regarding the french riots that is not publicly accessible but reuters

00:05:43 had access to it and they're saying covert russian network exploited french riots on social media

00:05:49 according to eu report let's say so they exploited them but they did happen though

00:05:55 they did happen and as they are saying here they um they did happen and they weren't caused by the

00:06:02 russians which is so which is a step forward for the eu so they're saying that the russians just

00:06:08 looked at it and went well we can comment on that how bad that is then yes but also it gets even 0.83

00:06:14 better it gets even better wouldn't this also imply that having a massive foreign population 0.96

00:06:20 in your country is a national security risk because it can be weaponized by russia yes

00:06:25 yes but the borders separating the uk from france only one matters are on the borders 0.69

00:06:35 separating poland from belarus russia could never access those borders um apparently not for the eu

00:06:42 even though we all need to stock up because the threat of russia yeah so here we have

00:06:48 anthony slodkowski and john irish talking about covert russian network exploited friend exploiting

00:06:55 french rights on social media now why am i saying this i'm saying this because very often almost

00:07:01 100 of the times when you hear eu officials talk about russia they do this in order to say the

00:07:09 exact opposite of what the Russians allegedly are saying so here if the

00:07:14 Russians are gonna say something about the French riots being caused by mass

00:07:19 migration the EU has to take a hundred and eighty degrees turn and say that it 0.55

00:07:24 wasn't about mass migration right so let's read here because it's gonna be a

00:07:29 bit amusing right we have summary in bullet points with bullet points

00:07:34 accounts sprayed fake media posts according to internal eu assessment did we actually need a

00:07:43 committee from the eu to establish this sorry moscow has denied french allegations of spreading

00:07:51 disinformation israeli linked and mega accounts also pushed hostile narratives according to the

00:07:57 french report that that's anti-semitic we'll get there expert sees narrative competition to shape

00:08:06 views of european democracies that's how democracy works um you just get a whole a whole host of

00:08:13 information and you just decide what one you want yes but have you heard of operation overload

00:08:20 yeah it has a weird name no i haven't isn't it catchy kind of dystopian sounds kind of like a

00:08:28 arnold schwarzenegger movie right so the european union analysis found that a covert russian network

00:08:34 knows that operation overload spread videos impersonating western media outlets to target

00:08:40 french audiences some falsely claiming migrants had raped protesters or terrorists where terrorist

00:08:47 attacks were imminent the russian foreign ministry did not respond to the request for comment and

00:08:54 they are saying here to their credit writing no actually not to their credit rioting erupted in

00:09:00 cities across france last month as demonstrations against rising living costs and declining public

00:09:07 services spiraled out of control in some of the worst violence the country has witnessed for

00:09:12 decades so when i said before to the credit at least they're acknowledging that riots happened

00:09:19 and that they were violent at least they're acknowledging this but nate i see you are giving

00:09:25 me the suspicious look may i inquire the causes of such suspicion it's my um china man this is

00:09:32 also tiresome look that's what that is but like talking about oh it's the cost of living and

00:09:38 declining public service oh well i wonder why that could be mate i wonder what could be causing 0.63

00:09:43 again it's those ccs convenient contradictions so do you think that uh guys um the way macron

00:09:52 handled the riots was particularly competent it was primo yeah it was bellissimo right italian

00:09:58 isn't it so you have to say this because the russians say otherwise according to man of course

00:10:03 this analysis which covers the period from the 7th to the 21st of october russia sought to depict

00:10:11 the french leadership as weak and increasingly authoritarian i mean i wish it was a bit more

00:10:17 authoritarian it was such a bit terribly such events offer opportunities to undermine national

00:10:23 governments fuel fear and division and shape public perceptions ahead of elections said the

00:10:30 restricted circulation EU document prepared by disinformation experts and the bloc's diplomatic

00:10:37 service but crucially it found no evidence that Moscow or other actors had instigated or escalated

00:10:44 the protests describing the activity as the opportunistic exploitation of unrest so they're

00:10:52 not saying that russians caused them they are saying that russian disinformation networks

00:10:59 took advantage of the situation to present macron as weak and point towards mass migration as being

00:11:06 the cause he was objectively weak and all of the palestinian flags denotes the fact that

00:11:14 mass migration has a factor and i i think you're correct and here we have something even more

00:11:21 interesting the extent of this propagandistic network the french foreign ministry's assessment

00:11:29 found that the 10 most viewed x-posts of the unrest from pro-russian spheres got 2.8 million

00:11:37 views from october 16 to 18 but when it came from the mega sphere sorry sorry it was 49 million views

00:11:45 right from the for the same period and when it came to the um israeli uh sphere on x the 10 most

00:11:54 viewed posts amounted to 35 million views i was going to say the initial numbers you presented

00:12:00 were rookie like russia needs to have their game didn't they right so but we do have um people in

00:12:07 the eu and eu outlets such as france 24 saying russian network use social media to blame french

00:12:15 rights on migration russia tries to turn france's violent protests into a disinformation weapon

00:12:22 russian linked network exploited france french riots with fake content russian networks this is

00:12:29 from info migrants russian network use social media to blame french rights on immigration

00:12:36 info migrants yeah what is that it's an outlet informative immigrants

00:12:42 right kind of like when you go up to um an npc in oblivion ask them for rumors

00:12:47 so the thing is that now the eu is going to do on 180 degree turn various meps have already done so

00:12:57 and they aren't blaming mass migration uh for the riots in france or at least they're saying that

00:13:05 had nothing to do with them. This definitely applies for the leftists. In a recent voting

00:13:12 in the EU Parliament, the EU Parliament voted overwhelmingly in favor of devising a strategy

00:13:20 against Islamist entryism and toughening up measures against the Muslim Brotherhood. Two-thirds

00:13:30 voted in favor of this strategy one-third voted against it who was that which political side which

00:13:39 side of the political spectrum voted overwhelmingly to not have a strategy for islamist for countering

00:13:46 islamist entrism was it the left yes it was the left but the russian said it was about mass

00:13:56 migration so the EU can't have their line because the Russians said this so they have to say the

00:14:00 opposite. Now I want to say something very obvious here because occasionally it's good to state the

00:14:06 obvious. If the modus operandi of the EU is to say and act contrary to what Russian authorities say

00:14:15 then the Russian authorities have a very powerful weapon against the EU. They're going to say

00:14:22 that the EU should do the exact opposite of what they want them to do, the EU will say the Russians

00:14:29 said this, we're going to do the opposite, and the EU will finally end up doing what the Russians

00:14:34 want them to do. So they should be a bit more autonomous in thought, rhetoric, and actions.

00:14:40 Sometimes for Europe, when we can actually control our borders, it doesn't matter what the Russians

00:14:45 say, right? Here we had this argument, who is to blame about the French riots? And I want to say 0.61

00:14:51 that here it's crystal clear first of all I had this idea and I used it in a

00:14:56 post did really well you can see here you you rarely see a French flag according

00:15:02 to several estimates about three percent three quarters of those who

00:15:09 participated in the riots were not French well we have to explain what being

00:15:18 French is. That's why we're going to talk about Jean-Luc Mélenchon. Now, why is this

00:15:23 interesting? Because in less than half a year, in less than six months, the French are going 1.00

00:15:29 to vote for the presidential election, the first round of it. And the two major names,

00:15:36 the two major candidates are Marine Le Pen and Jean-Luc Mélenchon. It looks like Marine

00:15:42 Le Pen isn't going to secure the 50% needed to win in the first round, so both of them

00:15:48 because those were the two most popular candidates

00:15:52 that are going to go for the second round.

00:15:54 So it's not exactly weird to suggest

00:15:58 that in pre-election period,

00:16:02 perhaps the second most popular candidate

00:16:04 sort of invited what happened.

00:16:09 Let me tell you why.

00:16:12 Here we have him being crystal clear about his intentions.

00:16:16 And this has nothing to do with Russians, right?

00:16:19 If the Russians say that he said what he actually said, it doesn't mean that the EU should ignore what Jean-Luc Mélenchon said, because the Russians said that he said it. 0.71

00:16:30 According to Jean-Luc Mélenchon, if you're counting on white Christian workers to bring about socialism in France, it won't happen. 0.98

00:16:37 But the Muslim brothers and sisters will. 0.88

00:16:41 He is crystal clear about what he wants to do.

00:16:43 He's part of the left that has turned its back on the working class and thinks that it is the so-called third world that has revolutionary potential and that they have to form an alliance with the so-called third world in order to overthrow capitalism and establish socialism.

00:17:01 He is crystal clear about his intentions.

00:17:04 I've said before, believe these people when they tell you what they want to do.

00:17:08 They're open and honest and they're consistently open and honest about it.

00:17:13 They will say they hate you, they hate your way of life, they either want you dead or they want to completely upend your entire civilization.

00:17:21 We have to start taking them seriously.

00:17:23 I respect this more than Pedro Sanchez's stance.

00:17:27 Pedro Sanchez wants the same outcome, he's just too afraid to say it.

00:17:31 At least Melanchon has always been consistent here. 0.96

00:17:34 right here he says about the French and about whether they exist that they don't

00:17:44 exist they only exist as a political construction I know that constructivism

00:17:49 has been a trend in French philosophy but I want to ask you the following

00:17:54 question would he dare to say the same thing about Palestinians would he dare

00:17:59 to say that the Palestinians are a construction. No. So what he wants to do is to say that

00:18:06 the French exist only when it comes to paying taxes. The French exist only when it comes

00:18:13 to him identifying who he wants to tax into oblivion in order to fund his political allies, 0.97

00:18:22 he has been clear when it comes to identifying, right? He wants to form an alliance, and I'm

00:18:31 talking about the second most popular presidential candidate for the next French presidential

00:18:37 elections in less than half a year. He will go to the second round. So he is crystal clear

00:18:42 about this. And his manifesto was circulated, and his policies became visible. I'll just

00:18:51 mentioned some of them that vesegrad24 did as the courtesy of summarizing he wants to lower

00:18:58 retirement age from 64 to 60. right let's be very honest the french and french friends who are

00:19:07 watching this here you haven't been exactly uh good at containing this 64 is a bit low right

00:19:15 I know I'd like to live in my chateau, everyone funding me and me just living the good life

00:19:23 and the high life and Euromaxing all the time, but it's not going to happen.

00:19:29 What is he going to do when he says, I'm bringing down the retirement age from 64 to 60?

00:19:37 Is he going to mention labor shortages?

00:19:40 If he mentions labor shortages, who will he want to cover them with?

00:19:45 with the people he said that he wants to form an alliance with to overthrow capitalism and

00:19:51 establish socialism. He wants increased pensions. So people are going to work less. Fewer younger

00:20:00 people are going to be born because of a below replacement rate birth rate. And people are 0.80

00:20:07 going to live longer due to the demographic. So the young generation will have to vote to pay 0.90

00:20:14 even more taxes for sustaining this for paying pensions and for paying the benefits

00:20:21 for jean-lique malenchon's allies is there any stated like a plan for how all of this is going

00:20:28 to work out is this all based off of the idea of voluntarism it's voluntarism it's the system is

00:20:35 at fault the system is lying to you every voice that says that this plan is unworkable is a voice

00:20:41 of the system trying to completely eradicate you because you are well well my against it my my

00:20:47 question is is is this based off of the idea that we're going to have the sort of ai automation that

00:20:53 some people in silicon valley are selling i don't think he uh that that this is what he's opted for

00:20:58 because that that's kind of what this this sort of plan needs um for increased productivity to

00:21:05 make up for the productivity that would be lost in some ways in which case if you want to kind

00:21:10 of independent france as i'm sure a lot of people like melanchon would do or at least one that's

00:21:16 stepped away big question mark there what one that stepped away from american influence so much

00:21:21 if you're going to bank it off of the kind of things that you need to do for this which would

00:21:25 be ai automation you would be pegging your country really closely to um

00:21:33 you child you'd be tying them very closely to silicon valley you would need to be incredibly

00:21:40 reliant on silicon valley unless france has its own sovereign ai or if you're not going with

00:21:45 silicon valley then china right the reason why i think that this doesn't apply in malinchen's case

00:21:51 is because he wants to fill labor shortages that he's going to mention not with ai but with

00:21:58 with hands from but also fundamentally the entire plan which you can see ends with banning nuclear

00:22:04 power is complete nonsense anyway yeah he or none of this again convenient contradictions yeah this

00:22:11 can only happen if we do this but you're removing that so you can't actually do this

00:22:17 yeah so it's all the same that's also one of the reasons why i don't think he wants a particularly

00:22:22 independent France, or at least a independent France as we know it, because who in their

00:22:28 right minds would want to ban nuclear power? Is Germany better for, is Germany better having

00:22:37 banned nuclear power and having destroyed its nuclear reactions? And the EU can't say

00:22:43 that it is better, because they constantly mention Putin's Russia, and the fact that 0.98

00:22:49 Germany's nuclear program was destroyed by green lunatics, or by people listening to green lunatics, 0.92

00:22:59 made Germany even more reliant on Putin's Russia. 0.92

00:23:04 Why would they want the same thing for France?

00:23:06 Well, we're currently reliant on France's nuclear power.

00:23:10 Yes. So is this another way of him signaling, of Jean-Luc Mélenchon signaling to his allies in the Middle East,

00:23:19 and in North Africa that hey I want to make my country

00:23:24 more reliant on your oil. Send me people 0.99

00:23:28 and I do want a second Arab Spring on European soil. 0.92

00:23:31 So it's crystal clear 0.98

00:23:34 the French riots absolutely had

00:23:38 something to do with mass migration. 0.91

00:23:40 And the fact that the Russians

00:23:44 said or that they had to do with mass migration

00:23:49 that occasionally they may have you know engaged in disinformation propaganda

00:23:56 with respect to this it doesn't mean that the EU should say just because the

00:24:01 Russians said so I'm gonna ignore it they should ignore what Russian networks

00:24:06 say about this and apply the same rhetoric that they apply for the border

00:24:12 separating Poland from Belarus to all the borders to every other border of the

00:24:17 all right then try to go through the oh you keep hitting something under here this keeps turning

00:24:24 on and off just letting you know i like the mention my legs are around the wires pegging

00:24:29 a country i did not mean for it to come out that way but uh we've got old eagle 1787 remember

00:24:36 don't your lying eyes he clarifies in the next one that he said don't believe don't

00:24:42 believe you're lying guys right um all your eyes do is spread misinformation just believe what the

00:24:50 system tells you nod nod like a good dog the hapsification banning nuclear power literally 0.98

00:24:57 france's energy mostly comes from nuclear power he's completely retardedly malicious and evil 0.91

00:25:03 yep all right then now we're going to talk about the exciting world of international corporate 0.95

00:25:10 espionage and i don't know if we've actually spoken about the um tech race that's going on

00:25:16 at the moment between china and america in any great detail so i'm going to just fill everybody

00:25:20 in on some context before we get into the primary story which is um the uh the fall of nvidia it's

00:25:29 not gone away as a company but it's taken some big hits recently mainly because jensen huang

00:25:34 who is in charge of it couldn't keep it in his pants um as is much the case with many of these

00:25:40 sorts of tech guys uh but so this is an article just from the bbc giving some context it's called

00:25:45 china is winning one ai race the u.s another but either might pull ahead so i'll go through some

00:25:49 info just to catch everybody up who may not have been keeping up with this uh so according to a

00:25:54 senior u.s official uh the key to america's strategic advantage in ai because that is the

00:26:00 tech race it's between who is going to control the ai market within the next 10 to 20 years

00:26:04 the america's strategic advantage lies in hardware driving immense computing power in particular

00:26:11 microchips so the chinese have an advantage in actual robotics technology you see a lot of

00:26:19 robotics technology being developed by china but america has the advantage in computing power

00:26:25 put simply most of the world's high-end powerful computer chips the ones used by silicon valley

00:26:29 firms to fuel the creation of LLMs are controlled by America. Most of them are designed purely by

00:26:37 NVIDIA. In October, NVIDIA became the first country in the world to be valued at $5 trillion.

00:26:43 So you could see that it would be quite the high-profile target if you wanted to do some

00:26:47 good old-fashioned corporate espionage. Washington uses a strict network of export controls to

00:26:53 prevent China from getting its hands on those powerful chips. It was sharply strengthened in

00:26:58 2022 by president joe biden as the ai race heated up most of the chips aren't manufactured in the

00:27:03 u.s a lot of them are made in taiwan by the taiwan semiconductor manufacturing corporation

00:27:08 and america ensures that very few of these taiwanese built high-end chips end up in china

00:27:14 does that via its foreign direct products rule which forces foreign companies to align with u.s

00:27:20 rules if the goods are they're exporting contain u.s parts so if you're wondering why the chinese

00:27:26 factories don't start making these chips themselves they go on to explain that you need

00:27:30 an ultraviolet printing machine and only one company in the world makes those machines it is

00:27:36 a company called aslm uh sorry asml based in a small town in the netherlands america uses the

00:27:44 same tactics the foreign product direct rule to block the dutch company from sending those machines

00:27:49 to china so they've tried to develop a monopoly for themselves in january the same january 2025

00:27:56 the same week Donald Trump was inaugurated for the second time, surrounded by billionaire tech

00:28:01 guys. China launched its own AI-powered chatbot called DeepSeek, which I've, frankly, I've never

00:28:09 really used any of these. I'm not a tech guy that uses much of this sort of stuff myself. Just

00:28:15 getting some context from here. For a user, apparently it feels broadly similar to ChatGPT.

00:28:20 It can answer questions, write code, and it's free to use. Crucially, DeepSeek is estimated to have

00:28:25 cost a fraction of the amount it took to create American LLMs like ChatGPT and Claude, and I would

00:28:31 assume Grok as well. On the 27th of January 2025, because of this launch, NVIDIA suffered the largest

00:28:38 single day market value loss in US stock market history, around $600 billion. For all of us

00:28:47 Englishmen out there, that translates to roughly about £450 billion. And there is a lot of

00:28:52 difference between the way that China and the U.S. are approaching the development of this

00:28:56 technology. For instance, in America, a lot of the AI companies want to keep all of their

00:29:00 technology in-house. They want it to be guarded by intellectual property rights laws, and they

00:29:06 want it to be a closed system. Kind of imagine how Apple designed their product. So it's a closed

00:29:11 system. You need specialists within Apple to be able to actually open them up and change around

00:29:17 the technology and develop it for you. Whereas China, they're adopting an open source approach.

00:29:22 In an effort to accelerate uptake and innovation,

00:29:25 Chinese firms publish their code online

00:29:27 so developers from other companies can look at it,

00:29:29 and it appears to be trying to take a rising tide lifts all ships kind of thing.

00:29:34 If we publish it online, somebody else gets a hold of it,

00:29:37 develops a little bit more, makes some improvements,

00:29:40 then everybody gets access to that.

00:29:41 We develop our technology quicker than a lot of these American companies

00:29:45 that are in competition with one another

00:29:46 and trying to keep certain developments away from one another.

00:29:49 appears to be the kind of strategy that they're taking but it carries on to say that with the

00:29:55 chinese advantage in technology and the technological advantage when it comes to the

00:30:00 robotics seems to be one of the things that a lot of these tech guys are pushing for elon musk for

00:30:05 instance recently has been speaking at a lot of conferences where he's been saying that the big

00:30:09 development for ai that will post pushes into a super abundance age a post scarcity age will be

00:30:16 the development of humanoid robotics that will allow us to automate away almost any and all

00:30:21 manual labor, as well as LLMs making it so that we can automate away white collar work. And what

00:30:27 the idea seems to be is that this will free up human labor to do more important things,

00:30:33 to be more creative, more productive, or just allow people, I don't know if there's some kind

00:30:39 of UBI proposal to go into this to make sure that all of the people who would lose their jobs as a

00:30:43 result are actually supported in some way if there's no work available for them but it seems

00:30:49 to be that everybody will be able to just do whatever they want in this post-scarcity super

00:30:53 abundance age china having the keys to a lot of the robotics technology could be the gateway to

00:31:00 that but they point out here for a robot to carry out lots of very complex tasks it needs an

00:31:06 intelligent brain powered by different form of ai agentic ai this is an ai program that behaves

00:31:11 more like an independent actor working through assignments containing multiple steps. So when it

00:31:15 comes to those high-powered brains, America still has the edge because of its monopoly on the super

00:31:21 advanced microchips. The United States, they say, is definitely still in the lead when it comes to

00:31:26 robot brains, which is one of the things that marks out Jensen Huang and NVIDIA from the rest

00:31:33 of the administration that they'd aligned themselves with and a lot of these other American

00:31:37 AI tech companies, because Huang has been very open about the fact that he wants American AI

00:31:43 products to be open source as well. He says he wants some to be closed source, but to allow for

00:31:48 the expansion of innovation and make it more efficient and a faster process of developing this

00:31:54 technology. He wants it to be open as well. And he's even warned in the past that China is going

00:31:59 to win the AI race and said that he is open to working alongside Chinese AI. Now, what I see from

00:32:08 what I've read about this is that his tactic should be that China needs to be entirely reliant

00:32:13 on NVIDIA chips. This would be very beneficial to his company, obviously, but also NVIDIA is based

00:32:21 in the US. US controls the supply of NVIDIA chips and all the technology related to it.

00:32:25 therefore it's a way of bringing china under the american dominated ai umbrella as well you're just

00:32:32 forcing them to have to depend entirely on your supply of these chips so he takes a slightly 0.68

00:32:37 different approach to the current approach by the americans which is to just prevent china from

00:32:42 getting access to all of the high high-end stuff anyway through export controls and that's where

00:32:47 we get to now which is that huang has is not in charge of um nvidia anymore um because he's had

00:32:54 a few scandals rock him uh which might also explain some of his positive attitudes towards

00:32:59 china as well because china what was china known for in the corporate espionage world what if you

00:33:06 were imagining that china wanted to target you specifically nate and get something from you

00:33:11 how would they do it they would try and take advantage of a presupposed yellow fever exactly

00:33:20 and being in being taiwanese he's already well predisposed to it himself

00:33:26 i honestly this is new to me this is the first i've seen this is mad yeah he stepped down he

00:33:32 stepped down because he had an affair with an alleged not confirmed but alleged chinese spy

00:33:39 and most of them are though this is the thing is that it yeah yeah so so huang has been in charge

00:33:46 of the company as one of the co-founders ever since 1993 and it says you know he's been there

00:33:52 since the beginning uh it went public in 1999 as a one billion dollar firm now it's worth trillions

00:33:58 of dollars uh but then it turned out he had an extramarital affair with a woman that u.s officials

00:34:03 believe to be a chinese spy managing to wipe more than 600 billion dollars overnight from the

00:34:09 company's valuation pain for china has denied the accusations that it had tapped a woman called

00:34:15 alice huang no relation no relation it's just a common surname in china um as a um that it tapped

00:34:23 her the woman in question and a top executive at a data center center company called mega speed to

00:34:29 be an intelligent asset and called it a smear but the u.s officials reportedly already started to

00:34:34 monitor Megaspeed executive, which is Alice Huang, after suspecting the firm was diverting

00:34:39 powerful NVIDIA AI chips to Chinese firms in potential violation of export restrictions.

00:34:44 So they've got a full timeline here. And what it seems is back in 2023, Megaspeed is a Chinese

00:34:50 data center firm spun out from a Chinese video game company. At this time, Megaspeed was controlled

00:34:55 by a firm called Huangli Limited, and Alice Li's actual name is Huangli. Alice Li is just kind of

00:35:01 the westernized version of it an entity affiliated with Alice Wong according to Bloomberg and then

00:35:08 in November of 2023 Megaspeed is sold to a Singaporean shell company and becomes an

00:35:13 Nvidia cloud partner so they're very closely tied together and Megaspeed itself given a lot of the

00:35:19 corporate and governmental control of large corporations in China seem to have strong ties

00:35:24 to the Chinese government as well it's part of their law isn't it that the Chinese government

00:35:28 well they're a they're a they're a socialist slash state capitalist kind of government

00:35:34 as as they're branded most of the time so people started to notice that uh hey jensen

00:35:41 you seem to be hanging out a lot in public with a woman who isn't your wife

00:35:46 and there'd been a lot of public gatherings and uh meetings that they'd been to where they'd uh

00:35:51 they'd been spotted together and look at the look at those eyes business consultant look at those

00:35:56 look at those eyes she loves him she's definitely chinese that's not what i meant today 0.61

00:36:03 she could well i mean she's a she's a business executive who was one of the executives in charge

00:36:10 of this mega speed company that was closely tied as a cloud partner with nvidia now in june 2024

00:36:17 they're seen together in tepai in taiwan here you see them together uh jensen huang is seen with her

00:36:24 at a bar in Taipei, where several AI industry executives had gathered.

00:36:31 The person who introduced them to each other was Alice Huang's husband.

00:36:36 Good job there, mate.

00:36:38 Kang Wei, who had worked with her.

00:36:42 Maybe he's a telegraph reader.

00:36:44 Ah, fair.

00:36:45 Yeah, yeah.

00:36:46 In May 2025, he's seen again with her in public

00:36:49 when they attend an industry conference in Taiwan.

00:36:52 the new york times also reports that alice huang visited the nvidia headquarters in santa clara

00:36:58 california two months earlier october of 2025 trump is reportedly briefed on the relationship

00:37:04 between the two of them um new york times reports in october 2025 that intelligence officials had

00:37:09 told him the two had a relationship and already were alleging that she was a chinese spy trump

00:37:15 chose not to take action uh and trump has since said at the white house press conference that he

00:37:20 didn't remember being briefed on this whoopsie daisy just forgot uh december of 2025 trump

00:37:26 approves the sale of more advanced nvidia chips to china which is something that as mentioned before

00:37:32 huang had been pushing for for a long while his reasoning being that well if we're in control of

00:37:38 the supply that gives us the advantage internationally from another article i got here

00:37:43 um nvidia have been largely locked out of the world's most lucrative market being the chinese

00:37:50 market. Huang once said that NVIDIA's share of the Chinese market had gone from around

00:37:54 95% to zero. And he had been engaging in shuttle diplomacy between Washington and Beijing,

00:38:01 hoping to find a US-approved way back in and shaping US policy on China along the way. And

00:38:07 it says the revelations may explain why Huang has failed to bring home the biggest prize of

00:38:11 all to NVIDIA, the Trump administration's blessing to sell all but its most advanced chips to China.

00:38:16 so the you know it might just be that he genuinely saw a business and international

00:38:20 advantage from that it might also be because he was sleeping with an alleged chinese spy

00:38:24 he's definitely got an affinity for china in some way isn't he well he's taiwanese so

00:38:31 kind of chinese but you know uh separatist and whatnot um may 2026 rubio reportedly drafts a

00:38:39 memo for trump about huang and alice well jensen and alice uh yes the huangs but not the actual

00:38:47 married huangs um the memo warns that huang has become close to an alleged chinese spy trump still

00:38:52 invites huang on his trip to china saying on social media posts that he's honored to have

00:38:56 the great jensen huang on his trip and then in october all of this breaks all over again with

00:39:02 the new york times report and then just a few days ago just about a week ago now jensen huang

00:39:08 admitted to having the affair in a letter to employees, said that the board still has confidence

00:39:14 and he said he was going to stick around and he was more dedicated than ever, more dedicated than

00:39:19 ever to the company, despite the fact that this did hit their stock a little bit. Silicon Valley

00:39:24 leaders reportedly rallied behind him and, you know, it seemed like he was always going to be

00:39:30 well, you know, bit of a hit, but he was going to stick around, okay? And then it turns out he had

00:39:37 another affair what a second affair has hit the timeline another huang uh no this one was with

00:39:45 the nvidia vice president of health care so he's keeping that one in-house they do we know what

00:39:51 they look like um i can't see their eyes the name has but the name has been released uh but i didn't

00:39:58 look at the pictures personally i didn't want to like judge for myself it was like what what are

00:40:03 looking at here jensen nothing like that uh and then and then he decided to step down as the ceo

00:40:09 on the 12th just yesterday um and shares and the company continue to plummet there was a graph here

00:40:15 can we take the um dark mode off so we can see the graph please samson i will say this hopefully

00:40:22 where cards go down in uh in price maybe maybe samson can finally afford ram because that's quite

00:40:29 steep whoa that's quite a steep drop so you can see the major drop begins on the 29th of october

00:40:36 when the new york times report revealing the alleged affair uh came out obviously it'd been

00:40:41 rumored beforehand but this was like all confirming it and then he confirmed it himself um the most

00:40:46 funny thing about this is like as soon as all of this came out uh forbes then said actually he had

00:40:52 a third affair as well so this guy was getting around okay this guy uh you know player player

00:41:02 although it helps when you've got hundreds of billions of dollars in the bank account

00:41:05 there are reports what do we know about alice wang because of course it is alleged at this

00:41:10 point that she's a chinese spy u.s intelligence seems to believe that she was uh but what do we

00:41:14 know so u.s customs and border patrol records um correspond with alice wang social media posts in

00:41:21 in the U.S. identifier as a 43-year-old Chinese citizen by the name of Huang Li. According to

00:41:25 Chinese social media and databases tracking her career, she worked as a journalist for Chinese

00:41:30 state television before pivoting to a career in finance. A report from the New York Times

00:41:35 described her as a fluent English speaker who frequented industry conferences and executive

00:41:40 dinners with connections to the highest levels of the AI industry. One Chinese private equity fund

00:41:45 website said Huang had four years of experience in the media and eight in the securities industry,

00:41:49 including at HSBC and CITIC Securities.

00:41:53 From March to November 2023,

00:41:55 she was a director at Megaspeed International.

00:41:59 But in three years since Huang became director,

00:42:02 the company changed its name.

00:42:03 Megaspeed has become one of the largest buyers

00:42:05 of NVIDIA chips in Asia,

00:42:06 purchasing more than $4 billion worth

00:42:08 of its semiconductors by some analyst estimates.

00:42:13 Corporate records also indicate

00:42:14 that they were receiving funding

00:42:15 from Chinese tech giant Alibaba,

00:42:18 and the company has come in under investigation before for potentially providing chinese companies

00:42:23 with unauthorized access to u.s chips so he took that company down a peg so it it seems like what

00:42:29 has been happening it seems like what has been happening if all of this comes together to create

00:42:36 the story that it seems to is that he gets with her the companies connect towards one another

00:42:42 and he at the same time is trying to get actual official u.s approval to be able to sell china

00:42:49 more of these chips more of the high-end ones he's been using mega speed as a back door to get

00:42:55 them into china i i sit on a i sit on a panel with a bank him as a player i i sit on a panel

00:43:05 with absolute infants right now look at this look at this they probably won't they leave so much

00:43:11 i am a professional thank you very much mega speed denied any wrongdoing alice huang's current

00:43:20 whereabouts are unclear and she's no made no public statement or appearance since last year

00:43:25 so presumably since around the time of the first new york times report alleging that he might have

00:43:30 been seeing her might have been targeted by chinese spies she's gone off the radar and no journalists

00:43:35 can find her um the funny thing is all of this was actually kind of already known three years ago

00:43:44 and in fact it was a youtube channel called gamers nexus in 2023 who released an a documentary like

00:43:52 a two and a half hour documentary alleging that nvidia had an ai gpu black market and they were

00:43:59 selling black market gpus through singapore so they got the location right into china and how

00:44:06 a lot of these black market chinese uh buyers were saying about how gpu rich they were and

00:44:12 interestingly as well at the time um bloomberg tried to get gamers nexus shut down for reporting

00:44:19 on this whereas games and gamers nexus actually seemed to have been what like right on the money

00:44:24 with this they're good they're trying to shut down yeah why how what i don't know the exact

00:44:32 details samson made me aware of this before we came on but gamers nexus by the sounds of it

00:44:36 actually did a really good job and from the clips that i saw of the documentary they were in singapore

00:44:41 and they were in the places that they were alleging where a lot of these transfers of

00:44:45 this technology was going through you mean you mean to say someone did actual journalism

00:44:49 and then the alleged journalist didn't like it and tried to shut him down yep so so shocking i

00:44:55 couldn't even drink my drink properly just spin it all over yourself man what a what a shock so

00:45:00 this uh again this has this has been known for a while but all of this just seems to be confirming

00:45:05 that gamers nexus were right on the money uh with all of this so who's going to replace him

00:45:10 we don't know exactly yet but right now we have an interim ceo colette kress who was the um

00:45:17 uh what was it where was she um she was the cfo for the company she's going to be looking after

00:45:25 them in the interim and i'm sure there's going to be a lot of jockeying and vying for the position

00:45:29 now that huang is out but there is other discussion going on because this seems to have

00:45:34 happened quite fortuitously at the exact same time that sam altman and um i forget the anthropic

00:45:42 guy's name, this incredibly eugenic-looking fellow right here who's in charge of Anthropic.

00:45:48 OpenAI and Anthropic immediately at the same time decided that they wanted to back Congress's

00:45:54 attempt to ban AI chip exports to China, which is obviously the exact opposite of what Huang

00:46:03 wanted with a more open market towards there. So while there is a lot of the corporate espionage

00:46:08 going on as well some people are suspicious if the other big tech companies at the same time

00:46:13 had something to do with taking quang down a peg

00:46:16 by perhaps cooperating so that they could ensure a larger market share take nvidia down as the top

00:46:27 provider of these chips and perhaps pursue a monopoly so that's another element to this story

00:46:33 we can't be certain this is speculation but the timing of it is suspicious that as soon as quang

00:46:38 gets ousted from an nvidia these guys start to back more congressional uh initiatives to ban the

00:46:44 export of these chips to china which would benefit them monopoly by the back door

00:46:48 and on that rather low note i'm going to move over to the rumble rants which we got plenty

00:46:56 of them so thank you very much everybody for your generosity uh habsification um

00:47:05 playing out some of the dirty talk uh of the two of them which i'm not going to read aloud but 0.51

00:47:15 thank you very much for your donation anyway uh based ape i hope america wins the ai race if 0.81

00:47:20 china is in charge of that kind of global technology the western nations are pegged 0.88

00:47:25 bald eagle 1787 funny how it's 100% outrageous for a ceo to sleep with a spy so they fire them 0.82

00:47:31 yet congressional members who sleep with the spy and marry spies get to keep their jobs

00:47:34 in huang's defense there he chose to step down and there are reports coming from uh from private

00:47:41 that he's really beating himself up over in the first place to which i would just have to respond

00:47:46 that you know you didn't have to sleep with the probable spy you would you didn't have to sleep

00:47:52 with your vice president of health care and you didn't have to sleep with one of your other

00:47:56 employees as well they had pegs benedict for breakfast

00:47:59 habsification sends a another little uh racy role play down there which again i'm not going 0.97

00:48:08 to read out habs has sent a few more uh kimberly powell jensen is the billionaire ceo werewolf 0.94

00:48:15 six point no i can't read that one either uh kimberly powell is the second affair woman 1.00

00:48:20 she's a white american woman that's worked with jensen for 18 years they've been screwing for 1.00

00:48:24 around a year the guy you know power goes to a man's head logan pine china's been using honey

00:48:29 pots for years now yeah i mean since the 19th century at least and you can find them everywhere

00:48:34 in oddly uk and eu canada and the dems they send twins for others i mean let's let's be honest like 0.99

00:48:40 silicon valley is probably crawling with chinese spies we're getting diminishing returns now mate

00:48:48 you can't even get them out come on jdk moody sends to injustice department concluded that 0.99

00:48:53 Alice wasn't a sply.

00:48:55 Jensen being ousted is a disgrace.

00:48:57 He wants AI to be open source.

00:48:58 He controls the spies, controls the universe,

00:49:00 and it was in good hands.

00:49:01 Now it's going to be Altman and Dario.

00:49:02 That's his name.

00:49:03 Dario, the most dysgenic man in Silicon Valley,

00:49:07 which is saying something.

00:49:08 You said eugenic in the video.

00:49:10 That might have been a little bit of sarcasm.

00:49:13 On the front line, the whole thing is an effective altruist coup.

00:49:16 I hadn't seen any reports that Alice had been concluded as not being a spy.

00:49:22 That hadn't been updated anything,

00:49:23 so if you could send me anything related to that

00:49:25 I'd be very grateful. Bald Eagle

00:49:27 again, any executive of a Chinese spy company 0.95

00:49:29 is a member of the CCP

00:49:31 she was a spy, period. So we've got some

00:49:33 conflicting reports there. Random

00:49:35 Name says, when they go low, we get high

00:49:37 Absolutely we do

00:49:39 Take us out now, Nate

00:49:41 Please, take me out. Just end it all

00:49:43 You didn't allow me to finish

00:49:45 when I said

00:49:47 when I talked about them. Maybe I can get you

00:49:49 in charge of, in touch with a girl called Alice

00:49:51 she can help you finish

00:49:52 This is solo

00:49:54 I mean these guys had

00:49:57 Heads that were peg shaped

00:49:59 Right okay

00:50:01 So

00:50:02 You know it's Friday

00:50:05 I can just hear a Samson

00:50:07 Actually we haven't had so much fun in a while

00:50:09 I always call some 0.68

00:50:11 Blackpilling 0.97

00:50:12 You're welcome

00:50:14 Don't say I never do anything for anybody

00:50:17 Okay so

00:50:21 James Gunn

00:50:22 He's been fired.

00:50:23 We know he's actually been fired now.

00:50:26 So I know this has already been covered on the podcast,

00:50:30 but there's been a lot more information that's sort of come out.

00:50:33 It's well worth taking a look at.

00:50:34 It's just interesting.

00:50:36 It's what I do day to day on my main channel.

00:50:40 So I try to bring a white pill when I come here.

00:50:42 I try to bring fun stuff.

00:50:44 And this to me was fun.

00:50:46 It's interesting.

00:50:47 The fallout for it is just fascinating.

00:50:49 and bearing in mind hopefully this will go out today on the day of recording this

00:50:54 which is the 13th there will be so much more stuff which comes out moving forwards over the

00:51:00 next couple of weeks slash months as more and more people feel uh emboldened to say things

00:51:06 so is this all insider drama coming from how it was working with james gunn well so yes and no

00:51:12 uh loads loads of stuff has kind of been revealed insider stuff uh rumors uh cancellations blockings

00:51:22 potentials for things moving forwards how they're gonna it's all over the show it is fascinating

00:51:27 so i think the first thing which i wanted to sort of cover was this now the the main reason why i

00:51:33 wanted to cover this is it's just an article from the hollywood reporter if you're only listening

00:51:37 we'll sort of read some bits and pieces out of here uh but it goes to show the sort of two-faced

00:51:42 nature of you know mainstream media right you know they'll come out and sort of glaze uh directors

00:51:50 and actors and they'll run defense for them no one is is going to be surprised and shocked

00:51:57 under you know learning it's not a revelation to anyone that mainstream mainstream media outlets

00:52:02 are in in bed with uh you know movie studios right people yeah obviously they run defense

00:52:10 for one another it's called payola yeah it's at least the 50s yeah they they work together

00:52:15 so it's it's it's fascinating when they then decide to throw each other under the bus

00:52:20 right that's what becomes interesting so this hollywood reporter article does reveal some

00:52:26 interesting bits and pieces um you know it talks about uh the fact oh you know they they thought

00:52:33 they were going to be uh super yeah super clear fine no worries all this kind of stuff uh and

00:52:40 then they're just like oh yeah well actually um they were fired like in their in their own office

00:52:45 basically just just on the hollywood lot that's quite unusual well connor talked us through on

00:52:53 wednesday some of the projects that they had lined up that they were filming honestly they

00:52:58 just sounded like tax write-offs or money laundering what was it what like the people

00:53:02 versus grog the gorilla or something yeah so that that is if i don't know if he showed any

00:53:08 videos of that he showed us some screenshots of it okay so there's some videos and it's truly

00:53:13 shot like actually shocking i think that it got greenlit it's it's fascinating i think dc needed

00:53:20 to really realize that the marvel being able to make something of b-tier characters like iron man

00:53:27 was kind of a lightning in a bottle situation nobody really cared about thor before or captain

00:53:33 america but even then it had been seeded in the popular culture through the 90s old tv shows the

00:53:38 cartoon shows where it was like iron man and thor showed up every so often but like nobody cares

00:53:44 about a gorilla they're just going with quirk chungus oh if it's quirk chungus people will

00:53:49 show up because it's quirk's youngest because it worked for guardians of the galaxy well not really

00:53:54 so that's kind of i mean that's that's kind of the mantra i guess that gunner's had um i don't

00:53:59 know like instilled in him from working on guardians i don't know emboldened by working

00:54:04 on guardians who knows i think he thinks that if he just sticks his name on anything it'll turn to

00:54:08 gold he's got the midas touch yeah yeah yeah maybe maybe um so interestingly there's this kind of

00:54:15 commentary here about their their contracts this is gun and saffron uh their contracts stipulating

00:54:20 that they would maintain direct reporting to the ceo of warner brothers and that basically david

00:54:28 ellison was like i just don't want to deal with them like i don't want them reporting to me i'm

00:54:32 not interested like don't talk to me and and this is off the back of them quite literally going to

00:54:39 uh ellison and pitching the future of the dc slate and he's like

00:54:44 we're gonna we're gonna go some we're gonna go a different direction what were we looking forward

00:54:51 to oh well so they well they haven't even revealed it to be honest so this is well yeah to be a fly

00:54:58 on the wall eh yeah well so they they say that there's more points of tension basically dc heads

00:55:04 were not forthcoming and they were slow in sharing their plans slash slate details and also current

00:55:11 footage that doesn't sound like they had much confidence in it it's not great is it it's not

00:55:16 great but they also uh didn't want or ellison god damn hollywood reporter this is hollywood 0.96

00:55:22 reporter's website it's dog shit anyway um they didn't want uh james gunn to have final say 0.97

00:55:28 uh on anything which you can see here so they had final word on movies tv shows and animations 0.92

00:55:32 so they were the arbiters of everything that got made and it's part of their contracts and ellison

00:55:38 obviously you got to build a picture here they had everything pitched to them ellison and they

00:55:45 reviewed the contracts and was like this no like absolutely not this cannot continue you know you

00:55:53 can't have final say on any of this nonsense uh and as it says here ellison never wanted dc to

00:55:59 report directly to him in the first place did not have time for studio politics such as posturing

00:56:04 so he's just like just get rid just fire just root and some people say it's ruthless it's not

00:56:09 really this is typical merger um stuff but another interesting uh quote from this article is quote

00:56:18 and then there was the matter of dc's financials the movies released were not great for business

00:56:23 while supergirl was just a disaster in the eyes of the new regime even superman which grossed 618

00:56:31 million worldwide and was profitable that's debatable did not net out so it wasn't profitable

00:56:37 what kind of budget did superman have quite a lot but if it was only just profitable at 600 million

00:56:44 well they say did not net out so it didn't net a profit i mean it says was profitable but did not

00:56:50 net out so that's a contradiction right there exactly yeah yeah exactly uh or have the kind

00:56:56 of pop culture impact in the way that kind of movie should skydance is thinking wet and and

00:57:01 so this is the interesting thing man yeah i did watch it yeah then in that case you are the only

00:57:05 person i've met in person who watched it well i have maybe connor as well but he showed me a clip

00:57:10 from it it looked dreadful yeah but that's the interesting thing right so you got stuff like

00:57:14 this so behind supergirls bomb competing cuts creative differences so this was released back

00:57:19 in july and you really do begin to build a picture up of just how terrible james gunn was for dc i

00:57:27 mean outside of everything that we can you know explicitly see behind the scenes stuff is huge

00:57:33 so this uh this article from the hollywood reporter just says some information about what

00:57:39 happened basically um and i'll read a bit out says gunn and gillespie had creative differences over

00:57:44 the direction of the movie if you didn't know supergirl is a terrible film don't go and watch

00:57:48 it uh numerous sources tell the hollywood reporter and the film never found its footing in the

00:57:53 post-production process which is james gunn's area because he gets final say right uh the test scores

00:57:59 which are counted on a scale of 100 points never escaped the 60s according to multiple insiders

00:58:04 another insider said the movie's top score was 70 quote they were not creatively aligned is the

00:58:10 polite way of describing things said one insider and you'll see in a minute we'll build a picture

00:58:15 up of james gunn not being able to work with other creatives he has an inability to work with anyone

00:58:22 uh other insiders dispute this characterization so fair to say the counter narrative saying gunn

00:58:28 saffron gillespie had the normal amount of healthy friction any filmmaker in the studio have as part

00:58:33 of the process of making a movie better i mean you made the movie better and that's what we got

00:58:41 really come on uh multiple sources say the duo respect the filmmaking chops of gillespie known

00:58:46 for guiding margot robbie to an oscar nomination for i tanya uh but it was a terrible movie and

00:58:52 james gunn is clearly part of that and that's the uh the conversation is is basically all about james

00:58:58 gunn and his inability to work with people so tell from the what connor was telling me on wednesday

00:59:04 all of the people who were involved in these films are not looking to go back and seem very

00:59:09 glad that they're not part of this whole mess anymore so well so we don't act so that that's

00:59:14 premature so this is why it's worthwhile doing an update video here and there so the the main one

00:59:20 so far has been millie alcock right millie alcock uh a couple of weeks back basically deleted

00:59:26 everything from her instagram uh which was quite interesting that was like a huh that's that's

00:59:32 weird sometimes that's the normal process uh you know they are mandated by contracts part of their

00:59:38 pr you know for movies they're mandated they must have a certain amount of social media presence

00:59:43 uh surrounding the movie specifically um and then once that's up they're free to delete it if they

00:59:48 want but that's that's the key if they want and she chose to nuke it instantly so that's quite

00:59:54 that is quite telling um and she's made no comment since james guns firing whereas uh david corn sweat

01:00:01 i don't have it in here but i believe he has actually made a comment um and some other actors

01:00:06 have also made some commentary backing James Gunn up.

01:00:09 So it's not entirely, again, that's just the premature element

01:00:13 of trying to cover something straight away.

01:00:14 Am I right in saying Corrin Sweat's contract

01:00:16 is already up for a three-picture deal or something?

01:00:19 I don't know what his contract is, to be fair.

01:00:22 And it's difficult to, I don't think that's really made public,

01:00:25 but we do know that he's got,

01:00:27 that he has already done the three films.

01:00:30 If it was a three-picture deal, he's already,

01:00:33 he's hit that, basically.

01:00:34 yeah but he's still in somewhat defensive mode for james gunn it is amazing that after everybody

01:00:40 you know crapped all over zach snyder for so long and you know he had his he had his faults

01:00:45 uh the the snyder verse wasn't perfect or anything after that going so poorly and everybody

01:00:51 celebrating when james gunn came into the picture as the new steward of dc how quickly this version

01:00:57 crashed and burned as well yeah well so i mean are we are we i don't know what was covered in that

01:01:03 um piece with connor you could go right the way back through the announcement video

01:01:07 uh of him announcing loads of stuff you know this gods and monsters slate loads of things

01:01:13 and basically nothing has actually happened but there's so little from what was announced

01:01:19 to you know that has actually come to fruition um but one thing which was announced pre james

01:01:25 gun takeover was a constantine 2 movie with keanu reeves and the original director all back

01:01:35 even peter storm mayor was going to come back as lucifer which i look i i don't actually mind the

01:01:42 idea of that i love it i've quite liked i love that i love that idea and so does everyone else

01:01:47 destroyed well that was announced pre-james gun and everyone was like okay so that's still

01:01:52 happening then you'd have to be a moron to cancel that wouldn't you yeah james gunn blocked that 0.63

01:01:57 james gunn personally blocked it yep yep so here's the direct so the director's like oh thank god 0.87

01:02:04 now we can make it no we are well yeah almost quite literally um so it says that his quote

01:02:10 well i'll tell you this not that i want anybody to lose their jobs so this is not like a schaden

01:02:15 freud kind of thing definitely i will say definitely that we've been trying to make

01:02:19 constantine 2 for 20 something years we have an idea we have a script and we've wanted to make it

01:02:25 and the people that were at dc were an impediment to us making it so that is james gurn and peter

01:02:32 saffron but you've got keanu reeves you've got the the reeves surgeons the rick the reeves

01:02:38 naissance john them puns they're pretty good aren't they yeah yeah anyway uh you know whether

01:02:45 you think keanu reeves is a good john constantine or not it doesn't matter it's a good business move

01:02:51 to make a constantine 2 with keanu reeves whether he is a good canonical john constantine because it

01:02:58 would have made money it would have been good it would have been profitable it would have it would

01:03:02 have brought eyes to the brand and james gunn was like no no now we need a gorilla movie yeah no

01:03:09 that's a tv series even worse oh sorry we need a yes we need a gorilla tv series and a green

01:03:15 lanterns tv series where we kill off the most popular character in the first episode yeah

01:03:23 oh it's brilliant isn't it it's really yeah the you again the more stuff that comes out surrounding

01:03:29 how dc had been handled it's it's fascinating to me i love this i live for this kind of stuff

01:03:34 so interesting i think this is what happens when you take frankly a very mid-tier director

01:03:41 at best a mid-tier director who made one really really popular film in guardians of the galaxy

01:03:48 yeah and then after that one film comes out tell him he shits gold because all he had for years

01:03:57 after guardians of the galaxy was nothing but praise yeah no i completely agree um so this

01:04:03 director did say a little bit further and says so we are now more hopeful as of yesterday's news

01:04:08 at the time it was yesterday that was announced uh that maybe now there will be another opportunity

01:04:14 but again we've been trying to make this for 20 something years there's always been obstacles

01:04:18 in the road to making it and it's not me it's not Keanu it's not Akiva JJ Abrams is on it as well

01:04:24 we all want to do it so it's really going to be people at Paramount, Warners, whoever's running

01:04:29 DC now getting everybody on board to say like hey we can do a sequel of our version of Constantine

01:04:35 which again whether you think he's a good constantine or not doesn't actually matter

01:04:40 it's a good business move to get keanu reeves in that movie it's that it's just that it just

01:04:48 makes sense keanu reeves as well is like hollywood's nice guy he's a likeable dude if you

01:04:52 were like hey keanu we can't pay you that your normal fee would you do it for less he probably

01:04:57 would he's not exactly hard up for cash i think the reason he was in the first constantine to

01:05:03 begin with is because he's a huge fan of the character in comic books yeah so if you said

01:05:07 to Keanu we'll give you another chance to play Constantine one of your favorite characters

01:05:10 but maybe you get half like half of your normal wage he'd probably do it yeah yeah I honestly

01:05:17 of all the actors that that you know you you could say that as a suggestion to that's the

01:05:22 most believable that would be fine with doing something you get actors doing that sort of

01:05:26 stuff all the time like uh when Jonah Hill was in Wolf of Wall Street he he got a massive pay cut

01:05:32 just so he could work with Martin Scorsese.

01:05:34 Yeah, no, that is true.

01:05:34 That is true.

01:05:35 And again, whatever you think of Constantine,

01:05:37 not that Rotten Tomatoes is the arbiter,

01:05:39 72% is not bad.

01:05:40 250,000 plus ratings, you know, it's not bad.

01:05:43 It's not bad at all.

01:05:44 I remember it getting savaged by critics at the time,

01:05:46 but when I went back to re-watch it a few years ago,

01:05:49 it's not perfect, but it's got some really cool parts in it.

01:05:52 Honestly, it's not a bad film.

01:05:53 It's clearly Peter Stormare showing up as the devil.

01:05:56 Outside of Curry's legend,

01:06:02 um the you know the devil in legend oh yeah he like peter stormer is a very very very very good

01:06:09 lucifer he makes a very good lucifer and he's still around again like there's actors that are

01:06:13 willing to do this stuff they sit around and just just for argument's sake to discuss constantine

01:06:18 it was a great movie it wasn't exactly pegged for oscar wins but it was a great movie

01:06:22 you know uh so the production budget was 70 million dollars and it did uh 230 point 231

01:06:30 million worldwide not bad this was in 2005 which means there would have been aftermarket tv sales

01:06:36 vhs yeah uh dvd rentals blu-rays eventually it doesn't just go on on like streaming to

01:06:42 after the cinema release you've got uh secondary and third uh revenue streams for that so it was

01:06:49 a profitable film and now you could you could yeah you technology's better you could do it for

01:06:54 a little bit cheaper based on what they were doing back then um and so now we get to some

01:06:59 interesting bits and pieces all right these are just rumors okay okay but just let's just let's

01:07:05 just entertain them for white pilling comedic sake right currently man of tomorrow plot has

01:07:13 been leaked uh apparently he's a simp and wonder woman's a lesbian this is an actual leak so well

01:07:22 i mean it's a rumor it's a room all right all right i'm just saying that these are all rumors

01:07:26 but i will say this so this website which uh cosmic book news some people don't rate but i

01:07:31 will say this these this website here leaked accurately and had copyright dmca takedowns

01:07:39 of how jordan being killed in the first episode of lanterns oh i will say that they do have some

01:07:44 track record that there is there is an air of credibility and legitimacy uh behind a rumor

01:07:51 with respect to dc from this website i'm not going to say it's 100 legit obviously only time will

01:07:57 tell but there are corroborating sources for the information that man of tomorrow is so bad

01:08:05 that they just want to like chuck it on streaming or cancel it or do deep reshoots

01:08:11 yeah so just as a headline pretty pretty damn bad so there's a little bit here man of tomorrow is

01:08:19 dog doo doo bunch of random nobody's cameo without rhyme or reason i mean that just sounds like the

01:08:25 first superman to be fair i was i was gonna say isn't this the exact thing that they complained

01:08:29 about batman v superman for yeah you just threw a wonder woman for no reason oh look like she

01:08:35 breaks into bruce wayne's database and finds oh look there's a trailer for aquaman there's a

01:08:39 trailer for the flash that was bad wasn't it i forgot about that yeah everybody was bad 10 years

01:08:45 ago everybody was complaining about that the film's just an advertisement for more films and 0.69

01:08:49 that's that's what this sounds like it's true yeah uh apparently wonder woman uh is a lesbian and

01:08:54 gets it off of hot girl as well so there's that i won't read too much into that but basically

01:08:59 apparently um they they have no idea what to do with the movie they don't know what to do with

01:09:04 the movie they're like well should we should put on streaming should we sell it like what we there's

01:09:09 a lot of money sunk into this what do we do with it and you've got to think as well right so there's

01:09:14 a few things to consider before immediately discounting this as a rumor although i still

01:09:18 say yes it's a rumor james gunn uh fired with basically with immediate effect right it was

01:09:26 announced in november he's fired december 1st right there's a lot running in there like that

01:09:32 as a timeline is is quite huge jeremy latchum who is his uh his he's gonna be taking over uh from

01:09:40 james gunn that there's no handover there like a month isn't a handover right if you're thinking

01:09:46 about normal um ceos running companies and things like that especially in the film business how they

01:09:52 do crossovers they'll do crossovers for like six months maybe even a year there's a hell of a such

01:09:58 a long drawn out process to hand the creative controls over but they have literally gone no

01:10:03 you're gone like get out of the go be gone we don't need you there's no handover necessary so

01:10:09 there are that where there's a smoke there's definitely a fire when it comes to um the film

01:10:15 industry like this so it's again rumor but there's something clearly going on with man of tomorrow

01:10:22 that isn't good um and you can see there's more rumors that apparently there's not been screaming

01:10:27 matches over man of tomorrow like this is so terrible we don't know what to do with it what

01:10:30 are you doing um and you've got to remember the hollywood trades which we've already covered so

01:10:35 the official hollywood trades um said yeah they were fired after they had shown david ellison a

01:10:44 bunch of footage and and the pitch for the future slate i just i wish i was in the room when that

01:10:49 happened yeah so you sort of build a picture of a guy that can't work with create can't work with

01:10:55 other creatives is cancelling projects that objectively would have made them you know would

01:11:00 have made some good money blocking yeah yeah yeah yeah blocking constantine too and then

01:11:05 the last of his movies coming out is is basically rumored to be absolute doo-doo and and also let's

01:11:13 be honest he's just he's just coasting on goodwill from his marvel years at this point yeah no yeah

01:11:17 of course he is and so you've got this so again not just it's not just that website build a picture

01:11:22 from a lot of other people uh here man of tomorrow might just get dumped on the new hbo max paramount

01:11:28 plus streaming platform and i think that could be the case because again you see this funny that

01:11:34 the superman sequel is presumably still coming out should be a fun promotional cycle i mean how is

01:11:39 that going to work you know and again more commentary here it's becoming very obvious

01:11:43 that david ellison is wiping the slate kit clean which you should do you should do right i i don't

01:11:49 actually think you should do wiping a slate clean with dc i think it's gone too far i think you need

01:11:54 to just stop for a very long period of time before you go reboot but that is there's other rumors

01:12:00 that and i don't buy into this but it's worth mentioning just to create a well-rounded segment

01:12:05 that david ellison is contemplating selling dc as a brand just getting rid of it but the reason why

01:12:13 i don't buy into that as a rumor uh is because you wouldn't sell something whilst it's at all-time

01:12:19 low and it is at it's all-time low at the moment right as a brand its value will be i mean terrible

01:12:26 like genuinely terrible it'll be in in the dirt so you know i'd be very surprised if it does but

01:12:33 strange things have happened um so who knows um and yeah gun and saffron were basically uh sacked

01:12:41 before man of tomorrow opens so they could try to get a handle on it and get final say on the movie

01:12:48 what do you reckon they get joss whedon in no because he got me too no i know i know

01:12:53 oh yeah it would be funny though it would be funny to be fair it would be funny uh

01:12:58 this is the second chance joss don't let us down this time yeah so keep an eye on this this is like

01:13:05 a developing story the man of tomorrow stuff you will actually know whether those rumors are true

01:13:09 come the movie because there will be there'll either be hard cuts and edits or it will be

01:13:16 announce that there's reshoots if there's reshoots they're reshooting it and changing things so these

01:13:21 rumors have you know an even more higher a chance of being true uh truthful nature behind it or if

01:13:29 there's hard cuts and weird disjointed elements that just don't really make too much sense in the

01:13:33 film this will be because they did hard cuts just to edit out um these things always get out in the

01:13:38 wash you can always kind of tell uh realistically when you watch these films so there you go

01:13:43 developing story but keep an eye on it because it's it'll be interesting but the question in

01:13:49 everybody's mind what about lantern series 2 oh yeah they said that so yeah um the showrunner

01:13:56 for that has basically come out and said um i've got no idea just cancel it yeah oh i mean i didn't

01:14:03 watch it i wasn't gonna watch that crap didn't gonna also do an hbo max peacemaker series yeah

01:14:08 so he did peacemaker season two um that opened strong and then bombed in the ratings and then 0.65

01:14:15 uh he wanted to god what else did he want to do he wanted to do like an amanda waller tv show no

01:14:23 one why no one wants to watch that um just all manner of nonsense the guy just high on his own

01:14:29 supply stelios mental like you're our control here stelios would an amanda waller tv series

01:14:36 get you to subscribe to an HBO Max

01:14:38 streaming service.

01:14:41 He doesn't even know you. 1.00

01:14:42 She's a fat black woman. 1.00

01:14:45 Who is 1.00

01:14:46 kind of a troll of the Suicide Squad?

01:14:49 No, I haven't.

01:14:51 I've watched the first one.

01:14:52 I liked Margot Robbie in it.

01:14:54 Oh, I'm sure you did.

01:14:56 Did she die in one of the

01:14:58 Suicide Squad films? I've only seen

01:15:00 James Gunn's one. 0.99

01:15:02 She's in Peacemaker, so she can't...

01:15:03 Yeah, I suppose so.

01:15:04 Yeah, I don't know James Gunn suicide squad. I think it was the suicide squad which has one of inventive name one of

01:15:10 The worst action scenes I've ever seen in my life in it the one where they're sneaking through the little camp on the island and

01:15:18 It's all tried to do they try and do it in a one-take. Yeah, I remember that

01:15:23 Forget probably best stuff for you, but now we've got some rumble rants and video comments

01:15:28 Can we get the room the video comments up? Do you want to go through a couple of the rumble rants while we do so?

01:15:32 oh yeah i guess so um what's this what got him uh habs uh go up go up habsification says i want

01:15:42 a proper john constantine movie that's actually from liverpool with a proper scouse accent

01:15:46 uh where asks for chicken and a can of coke um that's a random name says so dc replaced

01:15:53 hal jordan with a black guy and then they're trying to release a series about a gorilla

01:15:57 what would they

01:15:58 mean by this

01:15:59 bold eagle

01:16:03 says sounds

01:16:04 like the DCU

01:16:04 under gun

01:16:05 wasn't pegged

01:16:06 for greatness

01:16:06 bold eagle

01:16:11 getting the

01:16:11 jokes in

01:16:12 for

01:16:12 I wish

01:16:13 I'd

01:16:14 never

01:16:14 that's your

01:16:15 random name

01:16:16 that's your

01:16:18 random name

01:16:18 says if I

01:16:19 was forced

01:16:19 to take

01:16:20 orders from

01:16:20 someone of

01:16:21 Amanda

01:16:21 Waller's

01:16:22 demographics

01:16:22 I too

01:16:23 would

01:16:24 sewer slide

01:16:25 basically

01:16:26 just says peggers all right and with that let's get on to the bloody video comments

01:16:36 this is part of my daily commute sometimes going down to san diego

01:16:44 yeah i get that nice ocean view well it's a nice trip especially in the morning

01:16:53 I'm about to see it. Water's cold as hell, especially nowadays, but hey, it's better now because it's not boiling.

01:17:03 Beautiful view. Happy Friday to you.

01:17:07 Of course, Birmingham has changed out of all recognition. It's raining.

01:17:12 They've also erected a mighty statue, hand-carved from plastic.

01:17:18 And today, of course, visitors are able to choose from a wide and varied selection of restaurants.

01:17:23 there's even a drive-through

01:17:28 balty house these days to nourish people

01:17:30 who were lost on the ring road

01:17:32 chicken chicken masala place

01:17:36 is that a real old clip from the 90s

01:17:41 I think that's Top Gear

01:17:42 sounds like Clarkson

01:17:44 that's definitely the real Clarkson

01:17:46 that's bad isn't it

01:17:47 yeah and that was even in the 90s

01:17:49 alright let's go through a couple of the website comments

01:17:52 Right, okay. Michael Drebbelby says that Melanchon wants to shut down French nuclear power.

01:17:59 Effing brilliant. So throw energy independence at the window, then become dependent on foreign 1.00

01:18:04 gas and oil, like from Russia. Lord Inquisitor Hector X says, but did the French riots have

01:18:10 to do with paternity tests? That's right, they were going to start legalizing paternity 0.98

01:18:15 tests and they all went crazy. Also, he says, does the EU know that Russia breathes air?

01:18:21 and sam fletcher says here facetosis says pegging a harry i suppose they are french and he says

01:18:29 sam fletcher that they'd probably enjoy it they probably would any french in the audience please

01:18:34 uh confirm for us alex ogle china is not ahead in the race for robotics it is ahead in the number

01:18:41 of robots but these robots are largely useless useless uh see the china show on youtube yeah i

01:18:46 was thinking that when i was reading through it i assumed that it was the uh the number of them but

01:18:50 still if they were able to get better technology to actually power them that could make a big

01:18:55 difference but i have seen those videos where they're just sort of like trying to do backflips

01:18:59 and they just fall over turtles on their backs i can't remember what where it's cool but one of

01:19:05 the largest train stations in in in china or even in the world was effectively built entirely by

01:19:12 um chinese drones like they did all the well oh really like that yeah so actually i you know okay

01:19:18 i think it's a common misconception that they're that they're bad to be far is some chinese name

01:19:24 obviously um i'd have to look into it again and and you know she sends you the link but it's

01:19:30 fascinating yeah yeah it's huge it's like an airport so it's big as an airport um and it was

01:19:36 done in record time again because they don't have terrible planning laws but um mainly because of

01:19:43 the use of like drones and like welding robots and stuff like that they're not actually they're 0.99

01:19:48 Walking ones are shit, yeah. 0.99

01:19:50 Yeah. 1.00

01:19:50 But the drone ones are pretty decent, apparently.

01:19:52 Carrying on with Alex's comment, he says,

01:19:55 other countries dominate for real robotics, which is automation.

01:19:57 I can say that having traveled to Taiwan, 1.00

01:19:59 extensively Taiwanese people are nothing if not unfaithful, 1.00

01:20:03 much worse than the French. 1.00

01:20:05 Now, that is something I did not know about the Taiwanese. 1.00

01:20:08 So I'm surprised the honeypot trap worked to unseat Huang, 1.00

01:20:12 pronounced Wong.

01:20:14 It's not, is it?

01:20:16 It's not, is it?

01:20:16 It's not pronounced Wong, is it? 0.97

01:20:18 Well, either way, China works almost solely by thieving IP from other countries, 0.94

01:20:22 so it will never be at the forefront. 0.80

01:20:24 Well, you can thieve IP from other countries, but, like,

01:20:27 I mean, the development of technology across a lot of Europe

01:20:29 was a lot of European countries thieving ideas from one another

01:20:33 and then just developing them.

01:20:34 So just because you don't come up with the initial idea

01:20:36 doesn't mean that you can't, you know,

01:20:38 blossom it into the best version of that idea.

01:20:41 So, yeah, it can be advantageous.

01:20:43 That's why they do corporate espionage in the first place.

01:20:46 Michael Drybelbus, 0.56

01:20:47 jensen's wife is going to end up like bezos and gates's ex-wives uh richest woman in the world 1.00

01:20:52 most expensive that's that's that's rather that's rather nasty to say about a woman who had just 0.84

01:20:58 been cheated on so i won't read it's not her fault yeah yeah uh dirty belter uh gamers nexus are

01:21:05 great for tech journalism if you want people that specialize on their area of news i would highly

01:21:09 recommend them there you go starmer's fiery but mostly peaceful backdoor uh correction for harry

01:21:14 segment in britain we call them computer crisps not computer chips thank you i'd forgotten

01:21:18 how unpatriotic of me mermaid on 2010 these people know they're dealing with spies and they don't

01:21:25 care as it um inflates their sense of importance and strokes their ego in this case the stroking

01:21:30 yeah yeah yeah lord inquisitor hexa rex not sure how many pegs down uh huang can go george hap if

01:21:39 nothing else at least the huang memes have been fire especially the ai generated ones people

01:21:45 needed a reminder that china is an enemy guess they forgot the whole covid situation you and 0.76

01:21:50 baker ostina powers the spy who pegged me thawing simon peg and intrinsic pursuit two huangs don't 0.61

01:21:58 make a right do you want to go through yours yeah michael drabel was says uh so the gun has

01:22:03 been fired so he's now smoking gun boom boom dirty belter says always remember that actors

01:22:13 writers and directors almost never speak poorly of those they've worked with because that's a

01:22:17 quick road to getting blacklisted it speaks wonders that we're hearing what we are about him

01:22:22 yeah exactly uh there have been some really snide comments sent guns way i can only wonder how

01:22:29 unpleasant he is behind closed doors yep well one of the great clips that connor showed us on

01:22:33 wednesday was of um corin sweat interacting with gun on the set of the first superman film i know

01:22:40 what you're talking about yeah when he's giving the big climactic speech and he comes over to

01:22:45 james gun and he's like hold up i've just realized this isn't a character arc that you've given me

01:22:51 this is like a fake character arc why is superman acting like this and james gun's just like don't

01:22:56 ask me any questions and starts walking away from him yeah mad you have to be way more professional

01:23:02 on set i either either be the george lucas on set where it's just i would just chill whatever or be

01:23:08 a psychopath like stanley gubrick don't just be like i can't deal with this right now i need to 0.96

01:23:13 go have a mental health moment and he definitely looks like that type super feminine uh dirty 0.99

01:23:19 belter says if james gunn is fired how is he going to get his wife to cuck him maybe we should put 0.99

01:23:25 him in contact with jensen huang yeah his wife said everything literally everything that's why

01:23:30 when he when he announced that he was going in the i don't know uh whether whether it was in

01:23:36 the approved one or his instagram one his commentary about i can spend more time with

01:23:40 my wife now it's like shut up mate and a boyfriend yeah you put your wife in everything 1.00

01:23:46 bloody loser shut up uh dirty better says now gun can set up a real life team of misfits and 1.00

01:23:53 failures at the job center um lord inquisitor says nate why did gun always cast his wife to 1.00

01:24:01 be with other men in his movies why i just i don't know cuck fantasy i guess great question

01:24:05 who knows um derek power uh lesson learned stop making dc into marvel and hiring marvel will not

01:24:13 turn you into marvel well they they have hired marvel that's the thing that's what people forget

01:24:17 is that jeremy lacham um it was a kevin feige protege so it'll be really interesting to see

01:24:24 what direction they go in though because kevin feige the rumor is that he was held kept in check

01:24:31 by those that had initially worked alongside him and then when he got creative freedom it then all

01:24:37 went downhill so if jeremy lacham is a protege of kevin feige but was on the better side he may

01:24:43 he may be beneficial who knows i don't have massive hope i i think much in the same way with

01:24:49 star wars when an ip is milked to death it just has to be rested for quite a while and that's why

01:24:56 disney will have no success with any star wars well the interesting thing with latchum was that

01:25:01 he worked on the first iron man iron man 2 a few of those earlier ones and the clips that i've seen

01:25:06 of him of him speaking to like christian networks saying that oh yeah my big focus in those earlier

01:25:12 marvel films was will my grandma like it yeah which is terrible wording because most people 0.74

01:25:19 in the audience will go i don't give a shit what my grandma thinks but if you zoom out and go

01:25:25 what he's what he's really saying is it needs to be accessible to a wide audience and it needs to 0.96

01:25:31 be four quadrant movie that's a fair that's a fair point and no trend no pointlessly transgressive

01:25:37 political messaging as well yeah yeah so we'll see i mean with these things it'll come out in

01:25:43 the wash and you you will you will see um you know the the truth behind it all uh eventually

01:25:50 all right then and that's all we've got time for so thank you very much for joining us today folks

01:25:57 uh thank you stelios and thank you nate uh if you subscribe to the website join us in about

01:26:02 half an hour where you'll see dan put us through our gcses all over again i hope you've got your

01:26:07 pens and pencils out folks anyway until then take care

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - November 13, 2026

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1549

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