The Roseanne Barr Podcast - August 07, 2026


Cathy O'Brien On The MKULTRA hearings | The Roseanne Barr Podcast #146


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00:00:00.400 Greetings, earthlings, and humans, and animals, and, you know, everybody else who's here.
00:00:07.640 Greetings, I'm glad you're here.
00:00:09.420 I'd like to address this whole show to MKUltra mind slaves in America and across the world
00:00:16.460 because we're going to try to deprogram you and set you free from slavery today, so it's great.
00:00:25.640 Welcome to the Roseanne Barr podcast. 0.98
00:00:30.000 All right, well, you know that I love to interview geniuses,
00:00:37.600 and boy, have I got a humdinger of a genius today.
00:00:42.180 I've known her for 300 or more years,
00:00:46.140 but in this lifetime, I met her in, was it 2008?
00:00:50.740 Yeah.
00:00:51.220 2008, and I found a kindred spirit and a genius and a warrior and a leader
00:00:58.840 and a very good friend, a soulmate.
00:01:03.740 And this is her third time on the show,
00:01:06.440 and she's here to talk about MKUltra Mind Control,
00:01:09.920 which is now just breaking thanks to, is she Representative Luna?
00:01:15.540 What's her name?
00:01:16.920 Yeah, Representative Luna, the MKUltra hearings that went out on June 30th,
00:01:22.240 you know, opened people's eyes all around the world to it.
00:01:25.380 Well, it's time.
00:01:26.280 And my guest is Kathy O'Brien.
00:01:28.920 Hi, Kathy.
00:01:30.680 It's so good to be here.
00:01:32.720 So great to be with you.
00:01:33.880 Thank you for giving me voice today.
00:01:35.340 And I'll tell you what, it's always good seeing you and having time with you.
00:01:39.980 And this has just been pure luxury getting to talk to the depth and the magnitude of all we can express on not only MKUltra Mind Control,
00:01:53.720 but above all healing from it the wisdom gained along the way it's something isn't it yeah i can't
00:02:01.640 talk to anybody else on earth about any of this stuff i know you can talk to a lot of people
00:02:06.340 because you know a lot of people and you've kind of built an infrastructure of survivors
00:02:10.960 and you're part of it and uh you've been uh testifying for 30 or more years including your
00:02:20.900 testimony to Congress. In what year was that? 1995, Bill Clinton was president. So that testimony
00:02:28.360 was censored under national security. And it's time for this truth to come out.
00:02:36.260 Hopefully, you know, we're going to have, survivors are going to have voice in these MK
00:02:40.540 Ultra hearings. But right now they finally opened people's minds to the reality of it and opened a
00:02:48.340 lot of doors into the far-reaching effects of it, so much so that people all around the world now
00:02:54.480 are reaching out for more information on MKUltra and, above all, healing from it.
00:03:00.260 Isn't it amazing that Americans are so heavily under MKUltra mind control and nobody seems to
00:03:06.820 know it? Yeah, it's like that really worldwide. There's a great awakening happening, and there's
00:03:14.360 so many people now who are awake and aware that MKUltra mind control, you know, when I began
00:03:21.280 speaking out about it over 35 years ago, nobody had a point of reference for the information,
00:03:27.260 but I needed to get the information out there trying to help my daughter, Kelly,
00:03:31.040 who was born into MKUltra and then thrust in to the corrupt child protective services
00:03:40.380 system, which is no more than a perpetuation of child sex trafficking and, you know, the horrors
00:03:49.200 of that. So I needed to raise awareness on her behalf. And it was hard doing it in those years.
00:03:54.980 But now, you know, people are not only ready to embrace the information, but they're asking
00:04:00.700 intelligent questions. They're wanting solutions. They're wanting to know what we all can do to
00:04:07.420 reclaim our free thought because they're seeing the far-reaching effects of it on their societies
00:04:12.820 too, you know, just like it is here. The education system has been affected. The media, of course,
00:04:21.340 horrible. The media really is the main vehicle for MKUltra Mind Control, isn't it?
00:04:27.660 It's significant. It's the main vehicle for it on a mass scale. Anytime trauma occurs and people
00:04:39.180 are glued to their screens, whether it's a TV screen or their computer screen or anything else,
00:04:45.740 they're getting a repetitive media narrative. And that's what we need to understand is our
00:04:51.640 own mind-brain function, that when trauma occurs, the conscious mind freezes in fright
00:04:56.700 and it leaves the subconscious wide open to being easily led and manipulated.
00:05:01.840 Without a conscious mind filter, we just take information in, especially if it's repetitive.
00:05:08.700 Repetition is the most basic form of mind control.
00:05:11.800 Well, we were talking today about how we, and the last couple of days,
00:05:15.300 about how we would get into the subject because it's so pervasive.
00:05:20.240 People think it's reality and they don't even know it exists, right?
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00:06:33.120 Yeah, I think everybody got a taste of mind control with mind control masked as a virus 2020
00:06:39.300 when that was unleashed on the global population to further this global agenda that's been in place
00:06:50.180 now. It's a 100-year plan. It began with Project Paperclip. When we imported the Nazi and Fascia
00:06:56.980 scientists into the U.S., with them came the formula for mind control. And that formula is 0.94
00:07:02.360 the same, whether it's of an individual, a nation, a classroom, or the world. Trauma is the basis of
00:07:07.800 it. They take advantage of our own mind-brain function that we have forgotten about. Knowledge
00:07:14.280 is our defense against mind control. So censorship is real pervasive. And the media is the strongest
00:07:22.680 at censoring information and also using a repetitive narrative to program people. You know,
00:07:31.100 you think about the mind control mask is a virus. And it's like, how many times did you hear mask
00:07:38.980 up, social distance, get the injection? Everybody did. It programmed them while their conscious
00:07:44.480 mind was, you know, looking at the ticker tapes of the people that were supposedly dying. They
00:07:50.980 were being traumatized. Their conscious mind was frozen in fright and they were just taking that
00:07:56.100 repetitive narrative in. That's something we need to be aware of when we realize that that's how
00:08:02.180 we're being manipulated. We see how easy it is to manipulate the minds of the population
00:08:06.900 on a global scale, especially considering it's been going on for three generations.
00:08:13.500 And that's very deliberate by design. And it's supposed to be a culmination of manipulating that
00:08:21.800 many generations by agenda 2030. So, you know, we're at a pivotal point right now. People are
00:08:29.600 waking up and we just need more and more of them to wake up and realize what in the world is going
00:08:34.820 on now. When did it start? It started with Project Paperclip, bringing the Nazis over to run our
00:08:40.340 space program, our medical program, and our universities, right? And science, right? 0.78
00:08:45.980 Right. And then look at Walt Disney was involved in Project Paperclip too. He was part of
00:08:50.760 of all that. And, um, what is, what is a children's cartoon have to do with, um,
00:08:58.980 with NASA scientists, mind control, MK ultra mind control. And it was something that Disney's been
00:09:08.940 involved in from the get go conditioning people to accept pedophilia, the subliminals and the 0.65
00:09:15.040 cartoons were right there from the get go because it was found in Hitler Himmler research. There's 0.70
00:09:19.900 no trauma more horrific on the human mind than sexual abuse of a child prior to age five while 0.88
00:09:27.180 the brain is still forming so this uh this pedophile agenda is a mind control agenda
00:09:33.980 and it came in with project paperclip disney was part of it from the get-go people realize it now
00:09:40.660 you know they know disney's kind of synonymous with pedophilia so um what they need to realize
00:09:46.740 is that pedophilia is really about mind control,
00:09:49.840 and it's been a deliberate mind manipulation through the media for generations.
00:09:55.060 Well, for centuries, because this whole pedophile agenda is as old as Babylon and even older.
00:10:07.080 Yeah, it is, and you look at all the way back with the Vatican's involvement in this
00:10:13.960 through the, and the Spanish Inquisition and the Crusades, you know, that was like war to get
00:10:19.940 people into the church, which, you know, that seems pretty backwards, all in all. But the spoils 0.62
00:10:25.640 of the war were the children, and then the Catholic orphanages were born. And so they found
00:10:31.860 out that these traumatized children are highly suggestible, easily led, and could be programmed
00:10:37.940 to perpetuate the church further and to perpetuate the abuse through pedophilia.
00:10:45.900 So that's been just going on for so long now that many generations have been affected by it. 0.61
00:10:53.540 We need to understand what happens in the brain of a child that's being sexually abused
00:10:59.280 and realize that it's absolutely undermining human evolution.
00:11:04.920 It is, totally.
00:11:06.780 Because they want to create an assassin, pretty much. 0.98
00:11:12.040 I mean, that is what MKUltra does to children. 0.55
00:11:15.140 It wants a docile assassin, a soldier, a perfect soldier who will never question. 0.85
00:11:23.720 And that's what Germany was trying to create with the Nazi youth. 0.84
00:11:28.740 yeah well the the violence perpetuates more violence you know and that's how um they keep 0.60
00:11:38.000 people traumatized you know so when we understand that aspect of it we see how these assassins have
00:11:45.640 been programmed it's mk ultra um whether it's a school shooting or you know an a major assassination
00:11:53.340 whatever it's um it'll traumatize the nation it'll traumatize communities and that's the time
00:12:00.780 when we need to be mindful of protecting our free thought how many people what percentage
00:12:08.760 of people do you think in the united states in fact have free thought well it's a sliding scale
00:12:15.780 you know because mind controls um a sliding scale from the torturous robotic mk ultra mind
00:12:23.100 control that I experienced on a White House Pentagon level to information control, because
00:12:28.860 we all formulate our thoughts, opinions, and actions based on what we know. We need to know
00:12:33.660 our knowledge base has been deliberately altered for a long, long time, you know, and that mind
00:12:39.660 control extends into the school system. Look at how our children are being indoctrinated. They're
00:12:45.820 being taught what to think rather than how to think. Well, how to reason, how to access information
00:12:56.640 and then, you know, absorb it and think it through and come to a conclusion. Yeah, they're not
00:13:03.480 critically analyzing information. They're not researching it. They just take information in
00:13:08.680 And, um, and, and that's what they use as a basis for knowledge. So by teaching them, um, everything
00:13:16.720 that not teaching them anything about the U S constitution and our, our freedoms, um, and making
00:13:25.040 sure they don't know how to write in cursive or read in cursive. So they can't read that
00:13:29.120 constitution. They have been indoctrinated with a globalist agenda instead. And nations really all
00:13:35.740 over the world have been um usurped by this globalist um indoctrination so um we've we've
00:13:44.240 got to get truth back in education but above all we need to get critical analysis back in um which
00:13:51.760 would be quite simple the very act of moving a pen activates the critical analysis logic part
00:13:58.000 of the brain that's why they took writing by hand out of the school system you know
00:14:02.760 Yeah, you say that.
00:14:03.900 Yeah, when you said that last time, it's fascinating.
00:14:06.500 Because you said the act of writing does something, right?
00:14:09.080 Yeah, it activates the logic-critical analysis part of the brain.
00:14:14.460 So it takes traumatic information, shifts it over to logic, where it's seen on paper,
00:14:21.480 and then you get your brain firing.
00:14:23.920 You can heal psychiatrically, psychologically, emotionally, spiritually, everything all at once just by moving a pen.
00:14:34.060 So anyone who's been traumatized can use that journaling as a healing tool.
00:14:40.340 Kids can use it in the school system to process information instead of just be programmed with it.
00:14:47.840 And it's a part of our mind-brain function that we need to reclaim.
00:14:54.800 It's a simple little brain hack that we can do because typing on a keyboard does not do
00:15:00.960 the same thing.
00:15:02.280 And twiddling thumbs on a cell phone certainly doesn't do the same thing.
00:15:07.320 Now, these globalists, you're very, very familiar with globalism, the globalist agenda,
00:15:12.340 because you were, I mean, the MKUltra mind control program is just the globalist program, isn't it?
00:15:22.480 Right, right. And it's to create a compliant society. It's been run by a DARPA-generated plan
00:15:29.000 that has always been intended to align us with artificial intelligence. Well, artificial
00:15:35.100 intelligence, you know, I mean, that right there is, you know, kind of oxymoronic, but
00:15:40.380 People gravitate to it. So instead of researching anything, if they just ask artificial intelligence
00:15:48.240 that's been programmed by these self-appointed, self-anointed global leaders to indoctrinate
00:15:56.100 people, then they're getting the answer and having their perceptions formed very deliberately by
00:16:03.440 this low vibration frequency that is ultimately creating a compliant society. They have to dumb 0.99
00:16:14.160 us down to align us with artificial intelligence. That should tell us everything we need to know.
00:16:21.420 Mind control shuts down neuron pathways in the brain. It keeps our brilliant brains from firing
00:16:27.980 the way that it should. And that's a very deliberate plan that undermines humanity and
00:16:37.200 brings us down to this low vibration level to not only align us with artificial intelligence,
00:16:44.960 but to make us compliant with a criminal, dark, evil agenda. In my lifetime, I mean,
00:16:54.940 look, in my lifetime, child sex trafficking, I was trafficked as a child born into it in
00:17:00.940 Muskegon, Michigan in 1957. I was trafficked as a child. And in my lifetime, child sex trafficking
00:17:08.140 has become one of most lucrative businesses on the planet. It's number one. It's the funding
00:17:14.820 mechanism of this globalist agenda. It is the result of MK Ultra Mind Control. It's part of
00:17:23.300 their blackmail operation, you know, it's the whole thing they use to perpetuate it. So, you
00:17:31.140 know, we've got to be aware of that and realize we've been in condition for generations now
00:17:36.180 to accept pedophilia, to accept our own demise, to accept the undermining of humanity that is
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00:19:33.260 feel helpless to fight it. Only because we don't understand knowledge is our defense against it.
00:19:39.940 And this is why it's so important that truth comes to light.
00:19:44.080 It's so important that people understand that we share this planet with a dark negative energy force that's a low vibration.
00:19:53.660 They feed off of low vibration.
00:19:56.180 They feed off of hatred.
00:19:57.680 Well, is that because they're sadists?
00:20:00.840 Yeah, and because it's just what they feed off. 0.92
00:20:05.200 And they're literally harvesting our children. 0.54
00:20:07.760 we got the adrenochrome, they literally feed off it. But above all, they need us at that
00:20:14.480 vibrational level so they can control us. Their greatest fear, because I've been deep in the
00:20:20.000 swamp among these perpetrators, their greatest fear is the strength of the human spirit and
00:20:25.700 the infinite power of love. That is such a high vibration, they can't reach it. They can't touch
00:20:31.820 it. The only thing they can do is use trauma after trauma to mind control us, to cause our
00:20:39.880 conscious mind to freeze in fright so they can manipulate our subconscious. Our subconscious
00:20:46.540 is what drives our consciousness, drives our thoughts, and ultimately our actions.
00:20:53.900 So they're undermining our basic humanity.
00:21:00.480 And in so many ways, that's where mind control is a spiritual warfare on us because they know that's where we have our victory.
00:21:10.840 That's our saving grace.
00:21:12.360 That's our ultimate victory.
00:21:14.960 We have the capacity of resiliency, a body, mind, and spirit right there.
00:21:19.520 We've been born that way.
00:21:20.620 We've been divinely created with the victory within us, and they fear that.
00:21:28.300 So they're using everything they can on mind control to dumb us down to their low vibration level.
00:21:34.340 Well, and also to dishearten us.
00:21:36.760 Absolutely.
00:21:38.080 Because if we can't think to go within and align with that divine within and gather that strength of spirit and the infinite power of love,
00:21:47.660 it leaves us compliant with their dark agenda and everybody's you know it's so traumatizing
00:21:55.220 um so dehumanizing so um horrific that um we've got to face the reality of it in order to start
00:22:05.600 rising above it i just love hearing you talk because i know and a lot of people that are
00:22:11.100 watching you right now know also but a lot of people don't that you were a victim of torture
00:22:19.340 uh and every sadistic thing that they could throw at you all through your childhood
00:22:24.680 and uh you had no thoughts you you talk about remembering your last free thought where you
00:22:34.100 hoped that there was a place on earth where people didn't hurt each other
00:22:38.420 and then you remember just going to sleep and having no thoughts for years and then uh you
00:22:45.480 were rescued by everybody on earth's hero that they don't know about yet who was a white hat
00:22:52.700 in the uh uh government that knew about mind control and knew how to break it because he knew
00:23:00.960 how our prisoners of war are deprogrammed from torture and mind control.
00:23:09.800 And he used that to save your life and give you back your mind.
00:23:17.740 Yeah, Mark's a hero to us all.
00:23:19.580 Mark Phillips was working the highest levels of intelligence mind sciences
00:23:24.020 to preserve the sanctity of free thought.
00:23:27.320 he found our birthright information on mind-brain function had been buried under national security
00:23:34.900 because with Project Paperclip, when we imported the Nazi and fascist scientists into the U.S.,
00:23:41.300 right after that, they put the 1947 National Security Act into place to keep their agenda
00:23:48.560 a secret and also put the CIA in place to carry it out. So with that, they needed secrecy. They
00:23:58.900 operated through the secret societies and secret meetings and secrecy as their absolute key.
00:24:05.640 So they took our birthright information on mind-brain function, our defense against mind
00:24:13.280 control, our ability to heal from trauma, and buried that under national security, withholding
00:24:19.900 it from mental health for generations. Mark saw that that had been buried that way. He was
00:24:26.680 absolutely livid. He couldn't release the information back to the people because
00:24:31.880 he was bound by laws of sedition. But he could do something about it. He could take action.
00:24:39.360 And because Mark could be wearing a hat, CIA, FBI, NSA, Secret Service, whatever, he was in high places where he saw what was being done to humanity.
00:24:53.020 He saw how the blackmail operations were compromising judges and people in Congress.
00:24:58.820 He saw how people like myself were innocent citizens were being targeted for MKUltra mind control to work on the highest levels of government like I did to carry out their bidding and their dark agenda.
00:25:15.640 He saw little children being taken in and out of the White House and how that pedophile agenda was such a huge blackmail operation and a funding mechanism of this.
00:25:26.740 And he decided to do something about it and rescued my daughter, Kelly, and me right out of the Washington, D.C. human trafficking swamp.
00:25:39.480 I mean, how lucky for us that he chose us to lift out of there and hand us keys to our birthright information for healing from within.
00:25:51.080 It's within us all to heal.
00:25:53.400 We have been blessed with that.
00:25:54.600 We got to remember that we have that within us.
00:25:58.040 People everywhere need to remember that.
00:26:00.500 And they need to remember who they are, why they're here.
00:26:03.800 Didn't you find all that out by, in fact, journaling?
00:26:07.960 Yes.
00:26:08.660 Yes, by writing out memory.
00:26:10.320 That was the easiest way.
00:26:13.960 Because once my brain knew I was safe and the memories started coming forward,
00:26:20.000 the repressed memories, the neuron pathways in my brain were opening up. I began writing out
00:26:26.780 those memories and that took the repressed trauma, the repressed memory, shifted it over to logic
00:26:35.120 written out on paper. And that's so open the neuron pathways in the brain. Mind control shuts
00:26:41.440 down neuron pathways. Trauma shuts down neuron pathways. We need our brains firing. We need
00:26:48.140 those neuron pathways opening. And writing it out was a good way to do it. That was one way
00:26:54.660 that I was able to start this healing process. And because I healed from within myself
00:27:02.660 and opened those neuron pathways, I couldn't be triggered back in.
00:27:07.800 Hey, I'm Ruby Carr, the host of the podcast Encore. Check out our brand new episodes featuring
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00:27:35.400 you get your podcasts. And I am living proof that it is within us all to heal. We don't need
00:27:43.500 any outside input. We've had enough of that. We need to heal from within. And I'm just so fortunate
00:27:51.100 to have been able to heal that way and be speaking out all these years now and sharing this
00:27:56.940 information. Well, you shared Mark's information that he couldn't release because of laws of
00:28:02.300 sedition but that you weren't bound by those and so you released it in your book time to heal
00:28:09.220 which has helped so many people because i know i've given it to so many people especially to
00:28:15.860 uh military with ptsd it's really helped them a lot it's helpful to anyone um who's who's been
00:28:24.640 traumatized and this is a traumatic planet so you know ultimately it helps us all remember how to
00:28:30.240 reclaim and retain our free thought and expand our thinking. It's crucial information
00:28:39.260 that people need to remember. And what I was able to remember through my healing process
00:28:45.400 is detailed in my 1995 testimony for Congress, Transformation of America. And that information
00:28:54.080 is pertinent facts that people need to know to fully understand what in the world is going on
00:29:04.900 today. National security is still invoked on that testimony. And anybody who tries to get
00:29:14.140 any freedom of information on me receives a letter back, access denied for reasons of national
00:29:21.620 security. Why is national security on me? They fear that people are going to be able to heal
00:29:27.420 like I have. They also fear what you have to say because you know where all the skeletons are
00:29:37.000 buried, don't you? Yeah, I do. And they've been revealed, but there is more people ready to
00:29:45.040 listen to that now than there was 35 years ago. When you started. Everyone said you were out of
00:29:51.460 your mind and making it up, right? A lot of people were beginning to see aspects of it because
00:29:58.440 global education, Common Core, had already gone into the school system and they were seeing the
00:30:03.820 indoctrination of their children. They were seeing the proliferation of pedophilia, the corruption
00:30:09.740 of our justice system to allow for it. Because all the way back in 1960, national security was
00:30:17.540 invoked on, um, my father's, uh, case. He was caught sending child pornography of me through
00:30:24.700 the U S males and given immunity from prosecution. If he would sell me into the project, national
00:30:31.100 security was invoked on the case. And, you know, that was happening all the way back then.
00:30:36.060 Our justice system is 1960. So we look at what's happening now with our justice system and how
00:30:44.380 corrupted it is. People everywhere are seeing that. So, um, the people really were beginning
00:30:52.660 to see it, but now they see it full on. They see the gross injustice that's going on. They see
00:31:00.400 child protective services is no more than a, uh, a child trafficking pipeline that continues and
00:31:07.100 perpetuates. Yeah. Those kids were sent to, uh, from Chicago were sent to Diddy's parties.
00:31:12.340 Yeah. Oh, there's so much information that's come out now. So I think in May 13th of this year, we were supposed to have had the MKUltra hearings opened up. And that morning, the threats to the people who are going to be testifying were so severe, they postponed those hearings.
00:31:37.140 um that evening our director of national intelligence telsey gabbard's office was
00:31:43.680 raided by the cia to confiscate boxes of of mk ultra documents that president trump had said was
00:31:53.040 to be declassified under presidential order of declassification the cia still went in and
00:32:01.300 confiscated those records. They're so scared that people are going to know their complicity
00:32:07.220 in MKUltra mind control and how far reaching it has become that they confiscated those records.
00:32:15.720 So when all that happened, I received a request for documentation on MKUltra because of the far
00:32:25.220 reaching aspects of it that I'm aware of. And, um, I was getting those, those documents ready.
00:32:33.800 So apparently, you know, there's still fear in the CIA. There's still fear among all these
00:32:41.240 complicit perpetrators in government that people are going to gain knowledge that their defense
00:32:47.680 against mind control going forward and um that those documents have been turned in but that was
00:32:57.560 a heck of a process in itself to get them turned in um and the mk ultra hearings finally went
00:33:05.960 forward june 30th and opened minds and open doors into it but we've got a long way to go
00:33:13.960 people need to hear from survivors. Representative Paulina Luna, right? Yeah. Yes. She was the head of
00:33:22.160 the committee that's at the Intelligence Oversight Committee that's looking into
00:33:27.920 these MKUltra hearings. And I trust they're going to move into giving voice to survivors. There's
00:33:34.720 so many MKUltra survivors now with major pieces of this puzzle who are very coherent and healed
00:33:42.120 because that information that Mark gave me that I was able to release and share with others
00:33:48.880 has empowered so many survivors now to heal.
00:33:54.480 And when you're able to heal, you're able to connect dots, right?
00:33:59.360 Because that's really what mind control does to you is disrupt your ability to connect dots.
00:34:05.140 It does, and it brings that into focus again.
00:34:10.900 But the healing, when we heal from within ourselves, we can't be triggered anymore because those neuron pathways are open.
00:34:18.160 And it allows for strength of the human spirit to align with that divine within and gather that and stand strong with the conviction of purpose and why we're here.
00:34:32.840 And there's a lot of survivors ready to bring that information forward.
00:34:37.680 Well, when you say triggered, what do you mean?
00:34:40.140 I want you to define that so people know.
00:34:42.960 Well, when memory is compartmentalized, the trauma can be triggered back open.
00:34:50.840 Like my father's sexual abuse that began in infancy, before I could even think to know it was wrong,
00:34:56.940 the neuron pathways in the brain shut down around it and repressed it deep into the subconscious
00:35:02.600 so the rest of the mind could develop and function normally.
00:35:06.280 This is a sane defense to trauma too horrible to comprehend.
00:35:12.360 Then when my father would come in to sexually abuse me again, the part of my brain that
00:35:17.460 knew how to deal with that abuse would trigger open and deal with that abuse again.
00:35:24.180 So the compartmentalized memory has the trigger of what caused that.
00:35:29.380 In MKUltra Mind Control, that trigger can be replaced with a hand signal, with a harmonic tone, with a verbal word.
00:35:40.820 You know, it can be replaced.
00:35:42.060 Code words.
00:35:42.840 And then because the brain photographically records events surrounding trauma, then programming can go in instead.
00:35:52.320 And in my case, I was used to deliver messages to and from government leaders, people in the drug and human trafficking business and everything else.
00:36:04.500 And they would be handed the trigger, the code to access the information.
00:36:09.760 And then I would spew the program verbatim using the voice inflections of my programmers because that's how the brain photographically records.
00:36:20.040 So you were just parroting what you were programmed to say?
00:36:24.200 Yes, and it could be triggered open at key times.
00:36:26.840 So those triggers need to be diffused.
00:36:30.300 And the way to do that is by writing out that memory, opening the neuron pathways,
00:36:35.000 so it's no longer compartmentalized memory.
00:36:38.160 It can't be triggered anymore.
00:36:39.580 It diffuses the triggers and allows for free thought.
00:36:44.180 And that's within us all to heal.
00:36:47.180 So there's so many survivors now that are able to heal from within themselves using that method.
00:36:55.180 They experimented on people for centuries to figure these things out, didn't they?
00:37:02.160 Mentally tortured and physically tortured people and studied it.
00:37:07.260 Kept notes of what works and what doesn't work to create the perfect slave.
00:37:17.180 Yeah, absolutely. And then in addition to that, they were able to take the knowledge gained and expand it into vast areas of like through their media voice, you know, and there's a handful of puppet masters at the top of this, these self-appointed, self-anointed global leaders that keep us looking outside ourselves to big government, big pharma, big tech, big cult to cult religion to tell us how to live our lives.
00:37:47.100 anything that distracts us from going within, aligning with that divine, and living our life's
00:37:54.820 purpose. So the media- Yeah, that's called colonization.
00:38:01.380 Yeah? Well, their media voice has colonized people then to be a herd mentality and bring
00:38:09.860 people into compliance with what they want them to to do and well I mean that really happened in
00:38:17.760 COVID because I just saw somebody piece together all the news folk like Don Lemon everybody on CNN
00:38:25.600 saying the enemy is the unvaccinated right you know and they did it night after night on all
00:38:32.780 the channels if you're not vaccinated you're risking other people's lives as people are dying
00:38:38.380 from the vax. And now Fauci is finally called on the carpet. I don't know what's going to happen.
00:38:44.480 But yeah, that was mind control for the purpose of genocide and stealing an election. Am I right?
00:38:56.380 Absolutely. And if national security hadn't been invoked on my testimony,
00:39:01.040 people would have known that. They would have read Transformation of America
00:39:04.460 and understood that the vaccines were being used as a depopulation agenda.
00:39:10.060 And that was the one that I was exposed to was the AIDS vaccines.
00:39:17.060 Originally, AIDS was spread through the so-called vaccines.
00:39:21.780 So that began in Haiti and the operation that I was used in there. 0.54
00:39:27.820 And I was at Bohemia Grove and George Bush was talking about annihilating people to reduce our numbers to a more manageable size using these vaccines and how AIDS would be the way that they originally did it.
00:39:45.680 this was like around 1984 86 they were moving into this and he was talking with um this little
00:39:54.580 guy whose name i didn't know but who i've seen and recognize now as fauci talking about the aids
00:40:03.560 virus the aids vaccine and how they could start a depopulation agenda then so you know this is
00:40:11.440 Didn't they say, I know, but I just want you to say it, but don't say the word they used.
00:40:17.700 But wasn't it a racist agenda to depopulate black people?
00:40:23.540 Yes, it was. 0.92
00:40:25.760 And to, that's why Haiti was targeted as an epicenter for, you know, launching it.
00:40:35.500 And didn't they say the N-word?
00:40:38.260 Yes.
00:40:38.360 Just like it was nothing?
00:40:39.660 Yes. 0.99
00:40:40.020 to annihilate them at their source. And that was the, that was what, um, what Bush and Fauci were 0.98
00:40:49.120 talking about at that time with that AIDS virus. So, um, that was going on then seeing Fauci still
00:40:56.160 skating, you know, and, and hopefully we're going to see some kind of justice to me, you know,
00:41:02.300 always the ultimate justice is positive change through public awareness. And, um, you know,
00:41:09.420 even with these MKUltra hearings, the documents that I have submitted, I was compiling documents,
00:41:19.600 pertinent information of the far-reaching aspects of MKUltra that I'm aware of, MKUltra,
00:41:30.220 how it's manipulated Congress and the presidency and global leaders and everything else.
00:41:37.800 Yes, too, right? The Supreme Court, too.
00:41:40.220 Absolutely the Supreme Court. We've got to understand all that. So I was compiling
00:41:45.780 30 years of White House Pentagon level MKUltra mind control, 35 years of whistleblowing on
00:41:55.580 these high level perpetrators like the Bushes and the Clintons and being able to survive that,
00:42:02.980 what that's taken and put it all into bullet points, you know, so that it's just bam, bam,
00:42:08.140 you know, this information that, so the week in order to cover more, I was compiling that
00:42:13.620 information, um, sitting for about five hours. I'd been working on it real hard and in my office
00:42:20.260 and was suddenly out of the blue. Well, hadn't we just talked about you coming here to visit me?
00:42:27.820 Yeah, that, yes, we were going to get together and, um, yeah, yep. And I was looking forward
00:42:34.720 to it. And then wham slam right out of the blue, literally out of the blue, um, a tornado
00:42:41.660 hit my house, slam that office, 38 trees piled on my house, no tornado warning, no, uh, pressure
00:42:50.900 changed like usually what happened with a tornado. I was the only house affected. My neighbors right
00:42:58.460 down the driveway didn't even have a leaf blown out of place. But the devastation to my house was
00:43:05.660 extensive. No one was hurt. My daughter Kelly and I were safe. We're okay. The house is still
00:43:15.680 standing despite the uh the destruction to it but you know being right in the middle of those
00:43:23.780 mk ultra documents what a coincidence that that happened that way and that you're the only house
00:43:30.440 destroyed right and that it slammed my office where i was working um i was able to complete
00:43:38.500 those documents anyway. And, um, I went and spoke. Um, I made sure that it was known my voice was not
00:43:47.900 going to be silenced. I will not be silenced. Nothing is going to stop me from bringing this
00:43:53.740 truth to light. And I got those documents submitted exactly where they were requested. So, um, this
00:44:01.160 information needs to come out because this is pertinent facts that people need to know that are
00:44:07.640 crucial to understanding what in the world is going on today well you said when you were a
00:44:15.240 penthouse penthouse pentagon level uh that too uh
00:44:21.720 messenger that part of your thing in haiti was to uh tell papa doc and baby doc how to get out
00:44:34.760 of there and go to france because uh they sold their people out to the aids virus right well yes 0.88
00:44:42.380 baby doc at that time and um because of the uh clintons taking such strong hold in haiti back 0.94
00:44:53.040 then um and the the child not only the child trafficking but the harvesting that was going
00:45:03.000 on was absolutely extensive and mass genocide in Haiti. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely horrific
00:45:15.000 what was being done, um, to them. And that was also, um, feeding right into Madeleine Albright
00:45:23.260 at the time. Uh, she had of the organization of American States in, um, the Virgin islands,
00:45:31.020 setting up what was Epstein Island and all that was going on there with not only the
00:45:39.300 sexual assault to the children, but the harvesting of them too. So those Haitian operations were 0.91
00:45:48.000 expanding and Hillary Clinton was just right there tied in with it all with who she referred
00:45:53.940 to as her mentor, Madeleine Albright. Absolutely horrific people. We're finally hearing about 0.63
00:46:00.520 Epstein Island, and that is just the tip of the iceberg. People want that information, say,
00:46:06.380 well, we want to know who this was, and we need to know more than that, because that is a thread
00:46:12.580 that can unravel this whole globalist agenda, and that thread needs to be slowly pulled so that
00:46:20.480 people understand what in the world has been going on. If they got all the information at once,
00:46:26.320 That would be like drinking from a fire hose, way too much information to digest.
00:46:32.260 It needs to come out so people see what's going on, so we can all get through this mental and spiritual evolution with knowledge that's our defense against mind control so that this never happens again.
00:46:47.800 Yeah, so we can wake up from hell.
00:46:50.000 Yes.
00:46:50.440 But you were used on the original Epstein Island, which is Mackinac Island in Michigan, right?
00:46:58.820 Absolutely. 0.92
00:47:00.000 That was the Epstein Island of its time.
00:47:03.540 It's where these global leaders would meet in secret and discuss how they were going to manipulate humanity from the education system through harmonics in the music, how they could infiltrate religion. 0.75
00:47:17.780 And it was especially discussed because at that time, George Romney was governor of Michigan, Mitt Romney, his son, they were moving what the Jesuits knew about the effects of trauma on the human mind and the sexual assault of children into the Mormon church.
00:47:39.040 They were combining that information with what the CIA knew about the harmonic technological advancements and were bringing that into the Mormon church.
00:47:49.920 So that was heavily discussed.
00:47:51.460 And the Mormon church peopled the CIA and the FBI. 0.73
00:47:56.180 Right. 0.98
00:47:56.780 Right.
00:47:57.120 Right.
00:47:57.400 It was a primary.
00:48:00.180 Many of the FBI agents were taken directly from the Mormon church after they completed their mission. 0.70
00:48:07.580 And, you know, as soon as they got off their bicycles, they were recruited by the FBI. 0.65
00:48:11.760 You know, you look at those Mormon missionaries and you look at FBI and they look exactly the same. 0.85
00:48:16.460 Yeah, they do. 0.95
00:48:17.160 I never thought about that.
00:48:18.040 But that's part of the Romney mind control out of Penn State, right?
00:48:22.820 That's Mitt Romney and George Romney.
00:48:28.040 And yeah, what they knew about the Jesuits and everything else.
00:48:31.900 At that time, they were using the Osmond family.
00:48:35.780 They were given the harmonics in the music so that they could be the pied pipers to lead
00:48:41.760 people into the Mormon church.
00:48:43.780 So they used the harmonics very heavily then.
00:48:47.680 The harmonics were really infiltrating music back in the 60s, all the peace and love and
00:48:57.800 hippie movement and all that.
00:48:59.620 They needed to put an end to that.
00:49:01.540 That was too much free thought.
00:49:02.860 So they use the harmonics in the music to start promoting cocaine and everything else by the early 70s and everything else.
00:49:12.500 Yeah, disco.
00:49:13.360 But don't you think, when I look back now, I'm thinking even the hippies were a MKUltra deal too.
00:49:20.580 Because they introduced drugs to pretty much privileged middle class kids.
00:49:27.540 And there you got the 60s love and peace stuff.
00:49:31.340 I think there was a genuine movement of freedom and free thought that was happening, and it definitely became infiltrated.
00:49:41.220 What was the free thought from LSD and their other drugs they put out there to kids?
00:49:46.600 Primarily, I think marijuana. It's been long since known by the government the effects of marijuana on the mind. It's been demonized because cannabis opens neuron pathways in the brain.
00:50:05.160 Again, mind control shuts down neuron pathways.
00:50:08.400 They don't want our brains firing properly.
00:50:11.660 And medical cannabis opens neuron pathways in the brain, you know, like the, well, man,
00:50:20.300 you know, the expanded thought and all that.
00:50:23.480 It's a reality.
00:50:24.860 It opens neuron pathways.
00:50:26.320 So they couldn't maintain people under mind control.
00:50:28.900 They needed to switch them over to cocaine and get them away from LSD.
00:50:36.640 The MKUltra is synonymous with LSD because they wanted to blur that line deliberately
00:50:44.600 when in fact their efforts to use LSD to enhance trauma for mind control failed
00:50:52.900 because they found that they couldn't program anybody and have that program stick
00:50:57.700 because the neuron pathways would open back up. So they had to hurry up and demonize
00:51:02.860 LSD2 and did that through the Frank Olson murder, which they said, you know, it'll make you fly out
00:51:16.340 windows or, you know, whatever. It was just, they put out a lot of misinformation to demonize that
00:51:24.420 and to demonize marijuana and get people into the cocaine.
00:51:29.600 So they went with the disco and the hyper
00:51:32.260 and everything just went the other direction from there.
00:51:35.500 And they use harmonics to lead people into it
00:51:38.960 as well as the information that's carried on those harmonics,
00:51:43.860 both audible and sub-audible.
00:51:46.280 What is the information carried in harmonics?
00:51:50.320 To take people away from the free thought
00:51:52.600 and whip them back into compliance.
00:51:54.420 what did they do when they changed the frequency of music remember people into compliance
00:52:01.200 yeah because it used to lift people right right and be thrilling and then all of a sudden it
00:52:09.980 depressed people right and made them feel like it's help i'm hopeless yeah it's a matter of
00:52:17.620 understanding how, you know, frequency works and how they manipulate the frequency of our brain,
00:52:25.580 the amazing capacities that our brains have when we're thinking free. We have so much,
00:52:31.780 so much capacity. That's why I wrote the book, Align with the Divine, to remind people of these
00:52:37.980 extra senses that we have, how the frequency, the high vibration frequencies of our brain,
00:52:45.420 what we're capable of is, is amazing. And they wanted to dumb us down, you know, and shut those
00:52:51.900 down and bring us down to the level of their level of manipulation where they can get us compliant
00:53:00.620 and align us with artificial intelligence. And they use that, the music and they use audible
00:53:06.580 and subaudible frequencies in television and computerization, cell phones, all of it,
00:53:17.540 they're able to use those frequencies. Those frequencies are around us. When we understand
00:53:22.480 that and that our brain operates on frequency, we're able to safeguard our brains going forward.
00:53:28.620 Now, what did President Kennedy know about all this? And is that when it started with
00:53:34.780 the Kennedy assassination? Absolutely. That was the turning point when this globalist agenda took
00:53:40.860 over. The politician that thrust me into CIAMK Ultra Mind Control was Gerald Ford. And Gerald
00:53:50.960 Ford was a local politician at my grandfather's Blue Masonic Lodge at the time that I'd been
00:53:56.720 trafficked to as a little toddler. He's the one who gave my father immunity from prosecution
00:54:02.220 if he'd sell me into CIA MKUltra mind control.
00:54:07.000 Well, as Ford's political career escalated,
00:54:10.600 so too did my victimization in MKUltra.
00:54:13.200 And we look at Ford, he was the one who headed the Warren Commission
00:54:17.280 that covered up the Kennedy assassination.
00:54:20.780 So in my MKUltra experience, 0.67
00:54:24.660 I witnessed, uh, the way that they were taking over, uh, the nation in the wake of the Kennedy 0.63
00:54:33.920 assassination while everyone's traumatized. Um, they put out the, um, repetitive narrative
00:54:42.180 and really just squashed all that Kennedy had been standing for trying to, uh, let the people
00:54:51.960 know that there was a shadow government, that there was this globalist agenda, that these
00:54:59.880 perpetrators creeping in, and he wanted to scatter the CIA into a thousand pieces.
00:55:05.720 Yeah, he said that just before he got killed.
00:55:08.160 Yes, he knew the CIA was perpetuating the MKUltra that was brought in through Project
00:55:14.060 Paperclip, and he was going to scatter them into a thousand pieces, and the FBI, and other
00:55:21.040 aspects, you know, because it was starting to creep in so heavily into our system. And now,
00:55:28.340 you know, scattering the C, if we scatter the CIN to a thousand pieces, we're going to have to
00:55:33.400 scatter the CPS, the so-called Child Protective Services, the FBI, the Supreme Court, you know,
00:55:41.400 we've got to go into so many levels that have been infiltrated by this agenda now. Kennedy tried to
00:55:49.600 tell us. They silenced that message, and they took over at that time. That's when the electronic
00:55:59.520 voting machines came into being so that they could place key people in positions of power
00:56:06.020 and influence and start eroding our constitutional values of freedom and justice for all.
00:56:12.720 and you said that what year was it when they started warning you about trump
00:56:20.800 uh that would have been in around 1986 um and it's in my 1995 testimony for congress
00:56:31.380 that i had a meeting with um phil habib regarding iran contra i'd been programmed to deliver a
00:56:41.400 message on that in Atlantic City, New Jersey. And at that time, all this information was censored
00:56:52.560 from Transformation of America, from my testimony, that that casino was Trump's casino. And at that
00:57:01.980 time, George Bush Sr. had told my handler that Trump is not one of us. And that went into my
00:57:12.580 programming. And that meant if I saw him and spoke with him, that I would be killed. A death program 0.96
00:57:18.740 would kick in and I was not allowed to talk to him. And Bush said it was because he knew
00:57:25.700 about MKUltra. He adamantly opposed MKUltra slaves like myself being used by the State
00:57:33.560 Department. And they couldn't control him because he knew about mind control. So knowledge is our
00:57:41.280 defense against mind control. Trump had that knowledge. He opposed what the shadow government
00:57:49.160 was doing. He opposed their funding mechanism of drug and human trafficking across open borders.
00:57:55.980 And they feared they couldn't manipulate him or blackmail him because he already publicly opposed
00:58:03.780 the pedophile agenda that was being pushed so hard. So they couldn't blackmail him. They couldn't
00:58:13.100 mind control him. They couldn't buy him off. He had his own money. And they said they couldn't
00:58:18.480 breaches security because it was so tight. So they feared him and, uh, Bush and the Clintons
00:58:25.100 bird all feared him openly so much so that they did everything they could to destroy him with the,
00:58:33.640 um, with that, um, wall street, um, collapse that they had in the late eighties at that time,
00:58:46.480 They thought they could maybe destroy Trump's empire through the stock market collapse at that time.
00:58:55.400 And they were trying everything back then.
00:58:58.840 These are things that I was privy to.
00:59:01.120 When the mind photographically records surrounding trauma and they use that for me to deliver messages to and from government leaders, 1.00
00:59:11.580 These people are so stupid, so arrogant that they would just talk about all these things 1.00
00:59:18.140 right in front of me. 1.00
00:59:19.720 And I was photographically recording all this information, but they thought, well, I would
00:59:25.220 be killed with that information and never be able to talk about it.
00:59:28.560 They're wrong.
00:59:29.420 I'm talking about it and they're not going to silence me.
00:59:31.840 I'm still bringing this information out.
00:59:33.940 And it's important, I think, for everyone to know how much they feared Trump all the
00:59:39.060 way back in the mid 80s.
00:59:41.580 Well, weren't you programmed to die at age 30? 0.95
00:59:46.360 I was going to be killed at Bohemian Grove.
00:59:49.380 The sacrifices that they have at Bohemian Grove are actually how they were eliminating MKUltra slaves like myself who had been exposed to all these government secrets.
01:00:01.480 And that's why high-level global perpetrators would meet at Bohemian Grove.
01:00:06.920 it was to watch their secrets die with whatever MK Ultra Slave was being eliminated. Many were
01:00:15.820 eliminated. And I was scheduled to be eliminated at age 30 to die with these secrets. And it was
01:00:24.100 at that time that Mark Phillips intercepted and instead saved my life, saved my mind,
01:00:32.540 and was able to, you know, help me heal and remember everything.
01:00:40.120 It's so amazing.
01:00:42.740 Yeah.
01:00:43.860 It's a lot of information that I was exposed to.
01:00:45.940 There's a lot of women that we've been talking to and men
01:00:49.020 who survived and got clear also and healed, right?
01:00:54.400 Yeah, there's so many that are healing now because mental health has totally failed us.
01:00:59.780 And I'm so thrilled to have seen in the MKUltra hearings on June 30th that Representative Luna and the rest were able to bring out the fact that Jolly West, UCLA psychiatrist, had been part of MKUltra all along and citing things like Charlie Manson and the Kennedy assassination and everything else.
01:01:26.920 how Jolly West was brought in on all of that, anybody who was MKUltra programmed. Jolly West
01:01:33.140 was sent in on my case, my daughter's case, and that's in Transformation of America and
01:01:42.360 Access Denied for reasons of national security. And people need to understand that MKUltra doctor
01:01:49.020 like that has strong influence on our mental health system and has undermined it. And Margaret
01:01:58.660 Singer, his associate, major part of that as well. Dr. Ewan Camera, head of the APAs, the American
01:02:07.020 Psychiatric Psychological Associations, was an MKUltra doctor, absolutely caught for his involvement
01:02:16.620 in mk ultra so we're seeing how the influence on the mental health community has been so extensive
01:02:23.940 very deliberately to perpetuate a victim mentality which is just more mind control
01:02:30.800 in order to keep people from healing to keep people from going within and remembering who
01:02:37.700 they are and why they're here from accessing that birthright to the resilience well from being in
01:02:43.820 touch with their own humanity. Pardon me? From being in touch with their own humanity. Absolutely.
01:02:51.120 Just by becoming a parrot for a corporation. Yeah. Telling them to use hypnosis to help people
01:02:59.100 heal from trauma when that's counterproductive because the brain, you know, like I talked about
01:03:05.160 in infancy, how my brain shut down neuron pathways from the abuse. The brain knows more than we do
01:03:12.920 when it's being intruded on and, and hypnosis is intrusive. And so using that shuts down,
01:03:21.360 keeps the neuron pathway shut down. It does not allow for healing. You know, people would ask
01:03:26.320 Mark, they'd say, well, you must have hypnotized Kathy. And, and he said, that would be like
01:03:32.160 drowning a fish. She needed to be de-hypnotized. Hypnosis only perpetuates the, the, the trauma
01:03:39.860 the abuse, but that's what mental health has been taught to do. So we're at a point where mental
01:03:46.260 health has failed so miserably and the survivors have only become worse or gone into suicide and
01:03:55.340 death programs that now survivors know they need to go within and heal themselves. They need to
01:04:03.260 journal. The information on healing has spread so far now. The voice that I have on healing is
01:04:13.860 extensive and respected and recognized on a global scale. So it's reached a lot of people and
01:04:21.020 so happy to see so many survivors using what Mark taught me. And you also instruct. You really do a
01:04:30.300 great job of instructing instructors because very few of them have any idea of what they're doing
01:04:37.000 because they were instructed by the globalists right and they're wanting to help people and they
01:04:45.260 see that I've healed and they want to know how they want to be able to do that to help others
01:04:50.620 heal like I have and so I've been educating a lot of mental health professionals and above all you
01:04:59.480 You know, just people who are opening safe houses for the children
01:05:03.820 and the people who have been trafficked that are being rescued in vast numbers
01:05:09.480 and they're wanting to be able to effectively help them.
01:05:12.760 And it's good to have voice those directions
01:05:16.060 and to be able to share the healing information.
01:05:20.260 I'm trying to think of what else I want. 0.60
01:05:22.100 What, what, why is, why are they all pedos? 1.00
01:05:27.460 When did they start that shit? 1.00
01:05:29.680 When did they start that when you said your town when you grew up, it was just normal. 1.00
01:05:37.540 The police were all in on it, the judges.
01:05:42.440 The school system, everything else because of the Mackinac Island, Epstein Island of its time, you know, where they were all meeting and using Michigan as a testing ground.
01:05:55.840 We were, quote, number one in education, and all it was was parroting the indoctrination back. 0.85
01:06:02.660 So the saturation of MKUltra in Michigan was extensive, and it came through the Jesuits,
01:06:10.500 the Catholic Church there, which was very, very strong, and also the CIA influence.
01:06:16.860 So the pedophile agenda had been perpetuated.
01:06:21.720 There's no justice against pedophilia in any way.
01:06:25.220 It was being allowed to go on, encouraged, the Disney indoctrination of that, and then
01:06:33.560 bringing it into the school system, because that's where they put it in first, was to
01:06:38.940 start conditioning people to accept pedophilia, which undermines our humanity.
01:06:46.680 So yeah, my whole world was saturated in it.
01:06:49.260 I thought that's how things were, and like you mentioned before, I wished there was some place in the world where people didn't hurt each other because this pedophile agenda perpetuates itself, creates a dissociation, and they're looking for their memory, and they perpetuate it, and it becomes a multi-generational chain of abuse.
01:07:15.460 it's kind of like that movie they live you know it's like an invasion of the vampires or something
01:07:21.860 and once bitten you're a vampire the odds are you're gonna go drink human blood too right it's
01:07:29.200 just like that exactly same thing and it's like we it's up to us to break the genetic chain
01:07:34.820 because no matter how many generations have been affected um hitler himmler research said that
01:07:40.960 after three generations, any knowledge base, abuse base, or belief system becomes autogenic
01:07:48.220 in the brain. That's why this MKUltra program is a hundred year plan that's supposed to culminate 0.85
01:07:55.980 with Agenda 2030. They figured they'd have over three generations conditioned by then to accept 0.85
01:08:02.400 this pedophilia and this de-evolution of humanity. But there are so many of us now who have broke
01:08:11.320 that genetic chain. Soul is stronger than genetics. And even though it's been passed
01:08:16.780 down genetically, we can still break that chain just by remembering who we are, why we're here,
01:08:24.420 aligning with that divine within and living our sole purpose of being here. We are here to break
01:08:31.500 that genetic chain. We are here to be part of this mental and spiritual evolution that we're
01:08:40.460 in right now. What an exciting time to be alive. Well, I was thinking about almost all leaders
01:08:49.640 in the world. There's no way to become a leader in the world without being a pedophile, I don't 0.83
01:08:58.960 think. Do you? It's been that way for a long time. And the perpetuation of that aspect, the takeover 0.97
01:09:11.140 of national leaders to turn it into a globalist agenda has been extensive and been ongoing.
01:09:21.140 The United States isn't the only country affected. This is a global agenda. It's happened around the
01:09:27.540 world. And right now we're seeing where the people are waking up and demanding change.
01:09:35.740 And the thing is, even if I were to testify in the MKUltra hearings, I would be so happy to do
01:09:45.820 that just to reach more people and educate them as to what in the world is going on to remind them
01:09:53.180 that they have all the power. They're the ones. We need to be the change that we need to see in
01:09:59.740 the world. Because even if there's an act of Congress passed against this, it's going to
01:10:08.760 take a lot more than an act of Congress to undo this mess. It's going to take each and every one
01:10:14.880 of us. It's going to take humanity on a global scale waking up. The great awakening is real.
01:10:20.520 it's up to us we can't wait on government to fix it for us government's been doing it to us for so
01:10:27.700 long and if we have a good leader in place in government right now they're bogged down in a
01:10:35.400 system saturated in this corruption and the children can't wait for the system to clean up
01:10:42.120 so it's up to us all to wake up and be that change that we need to see in the world
01:10:49.120 And it requires going within, remembering who we are, why we're here, and aligning with the divine.
01:10:55.560 I've got a healing trilogy out now that's helping people everywhere to reclaim their birthright resiliency of body, mind, and spirit to claim the victory that we're born with.
01:11:12.460 because we've been, by divine design, we have the victory within us.
01:11:19.960 We just got to remember that, claim it, and start living it.
01:11:23.480 So it's happening, and hopefully that's going to change how government is run
01:11:31.980 so that it's not the government running the people anymore,
01:11:36.640 but that it's people running the government the way that it was intended to.
01:11:41.300 Yeah, that's kind of the way it was set up for this country to be.
01:11:45.200 Yeah.
01:11:45.680 But let's talk about mind control because we were talking about that too.
01:11:51.360 Let's talk about Trump derangement syndrome as a classic mind control program.
01:11:58.180 Well, I know that because it's up to the people,
01:12:04.280 that the effort to wake people up is a very deliberate effort, is a very important
01:12:12.600 aspect of things. And when Mark Phillips and I began speaking out on mind control
01:12:19.800 and healing from it, we saw that people were waking up all across the nation. And if you look
01:12:30.020 at my testimony, how the presidency, they were going to keep it in the Bush Clinton dynasties
01:12:35.940 until Hillary Clinton ushered in this new world order, the agenda 2030. That was the plan.
01:12:45.780 That's how it was supposed to go. But people started waking up and they were waking up
01:12:50.300 so much, but the media wasn't telling anybody that was happening, but they were waking up
01:12:57.360 enough that the globalist agenda started spinning out of control and they had to pull Obama out of
01:13:07.160 the shadows and out of the recesses and out of his hole to further divide the people under the
01:13:15.660 illusion of uniting humanity. He absolutely devastated humanity on so many ways. So that
01:13:27.080 was an indicator to me okay that their agenda is spinning out of control they had to pull out the
01:13:32.700 reserves they couldn't put hillary in it wasn't working so by uh 2016 so many of us were waking
01:13:40.560 aware that we overrode the rigged electronic algorithm in the voting machine to elect a
01:13:47.860 president who was not hillary clinton and who knew her new world order that was a signal it was
01:13:56.060 a measure to the whole global effort to wake humanity up to the whole spiritual mental evolution
01:14:04.320 that people were ready they did it we had reached critical mass there were that many of us well
01:14:12.000 the media didn't have a clue about it and they didn't even warn these globalists that it was
01:14:19.400 happening remember hillary's face when when trump won oh my god she didn't show up no she
01:14:26.000 went in the woods for like a year probably ate some babies or something really i loved it when
01:14:31.520 bill was in the thing and he goes because they were sure they were when they were counting
01:14:38.000 they were so surprised they had no idea well um they knew that that trump had always had good
01:14:48.360 media coverage you know all through the 80s and everything else he was just one of those
01:14:53.100 dynamic figures who always had voice in the media yeah followed them everywhere well these
01:14:58.980 perpetrators these globalist perpetrators own the media yeah so through the big pharma right
01:15:07.240 so they needed to because that's everything sponsored by drug yes it is right right so
01:15:12.700 follow the money and it goes to the same handful of self-appointed self-anointed global leaders and
01:15:18.860 So they used their media voice immediately to attack Trump.
01:15:26.620 They couldn't stop him any other way.
01:15:28.980 He was in, so they needed to do a character assassination.
01:15:33.800 And that character assassination was mind control of the population to divide them further. 0.99
01:15:43.000 Yeah, he's a racist. 0.97
01:15:44.620 That came from Obama, of course. 0.99
01:15:46.620 And Hillary Clinton. 1.00
01:15:47.260 Russian ass, you name it, everything. 1.00
01:15:49.420 We saw it happen. 1.00
01:15:51.480 And then they cheated in 2020.
01:15:53.120 They thought they got it back.
01:15:54.800 Yeah, they did.
01:15:56.660 And they overplayed it, I think.
01:15:59.200 They went all in. 1.00
01:16:00.220 I mean, their cheating was off the fucking charts. 1.00
01:16:02.820 81 million for Biden. 1.00
01:16:04.940 81 million votes in 16 counties. 1.00
01:16:08.340 They're so stupid. 1.00
01:16:09.460 They didn't cover their tracks, 1.00
01:16:10.800 but they did put people in prison who said,
01:16:13.720 this ain't right.
01:16:14.880 They were desperate. 0.99
01:16:15.880 it they're so desperate i told you they're stupid anyway yeah i mean they're they're like down there 1.00
01:16:20.760 with artificial intelligence so you know they they lack wisdom the end and the they have no 1.00
01:16:27.100 humanity intuitions and and all those other aspects that we can bring into an equation to
01:16:33.220 think it through they lack all that so they make big mistakes and um and once president trump got
01:16:40.400 in he showed us that there's a globalist agenda he showed us the swamp he showed us their funding
01:16:48.000 mechanism of drug and human trafficking he showed us child sex trafficking he showed us their 0.99
01:16:54.060 pedophile mind control so they stole the election so they could open the border and get more sex 1.00
01:16:58.660 child sex slaves so many and america's like it they if you america is so stupid i can hardly 1.00
01:17:07.980 take it sometime there's this it's the the trump derangement syndrome it's the mind control 1.00
01:17:13.560 of the masses to um try to pull them back under control but you know go back to when trump first
01:17:20.700 got in and and when president trump was was going around the world he would go into like india we
01:17:26.840 were talking about that earlier all the people that all the all the people that loved him and
01:17:32.240 then they went in with this um trump derangement syndrome it affected the global population
01:17:38.620 to start questioning and doubting you know the the first thing they talked about was impeachment
01:17:45.640 impeach impeach impeach impeach whether you believed it or didn't believe it if you supported
01:17:51.840 it didn't support it if they're like america's like well there must be a reason if they're
01:17:56.880 talking about impeaching him they must have a reason achy on the press every day whether they
01:18:03.680 thought that or not the repetitive narrative went into their subconscious yeah impeach impeach
01:18:09.760 impeach then then subconsciously then there's a reason and then the subconscious drives thoughts
01:18:15.900 and actions and such began trump derangement syndrome yeah that is mk ultra mind control
01:18:26.360 of the masses and now they're dividing trump and his followers and maga well they're trying to do
01:18:33.260 using derangement i won't get into i don't want to piss everyone off israel derangement syndrome 0.51
01:18:37.400 seems like another mk ultra plan to it is yeah it's obvious but what is 20 what is agenda 20 yeah
01:18:43.600 that was my question we want to talk about that it's supposed to be where we're um totally
01:18:49.180 compliant and aligned with artificial intelligence you know whatever the world economic forum and the
01:18:55.640 and all what wherever these the they're still meeting in secret at davos and all that whatever
01:19:02.460 their plan is for us um the world health organization that will own nothing and be
01:19:07.900 happy right right right they're just a slave society agenda and they need to dumb us down
01:19:13.680 to align us with artificial intelligence and you know i i know from being in the swamp that
01:19:20.500 they're not like us and do not like us they're low vibration frequency and they need us at that
01:19:28.220 low vibration in order to control us and align us with their agenda and well is their agenda
01:19:34.860 just to eat all our kids i don't doubt it you know it just don't they crave blood they obviously 0.99
01:19:44.100 and adrenochrome yeah absolutely i think it's they want to have sex with them too 1.00
01:19:51.300 or they want to rape them that's absolutely horrific and we got to stop it we can't wait 0.96
01:19:56.560 on government to clean that up we need to start protecting our children ourselves
01:20:01.040 yeah we know what need to know what to protect them from we need to know to protect them from
01:20:08.440 indoctrination in the school system get writing by hand back in the school system parents ever
01:20:14.080 everywhere can just go get out in society, you know, shut off the devices, talk to each other,
01:20:20.280 eye to eye, heart to heart, soul to soul, get out in your community, local action has national
01:20:26.940 impact. They need to get rid of the teachers union too, because that harbors millions of
01:20:33.040 thousands of pedophiles that are protected. Didn't President Trump say he was going to
01:20:39.700 stop the department of education it needs to happen because that is what they do that pedophiles
01:20:47.260 get jobs in and then are protected in the teachers unions right and uh they under biden were real
01:20:55.580 proud of it like just so proud that they were teaching kids about pornography in grade three
01:21:02.180 yeah that's we got it and the city councils were you know the city councils were defending that
01:21:09.280 scatter the Department of Education into a thousand pieces too. It's got to go. It's mind
01:21:15.840 control, you know, and knowledge is our defense against it. We've got to evolve with that
01:21:21.360 knowledge. I'm living proof that no matter what happens, you know, we can still live our purpose.
01:21:28.740 We can learn to think free. We can understand that. I've got knowledge that's my defense
01:21:34.840 against mind control and i see it where i recognize it around like when mind control
01:21:42.560 masked as a virus was unleashed 2020 they were so frantic to reclaim control over the people
01:21:49.060 i recognized it immediately yeah i didn't comply with one bit of it no way yeah uh real quick
01:21:55.640 question journaling is something you talk about is there another tangible thing you can tell our
01:22:00.560 audience because we know we have a lot of people that are suffering with ptsd that listen to the
01:22:03.940 show i see the comments uh anything other than journaling that you could give them and then
01:22:08.640 obviously i want you to send your book absolutely yeah one um is a concept of time a concept of
01:22:15.380 time is a concept of awareness so you know i'm wearing my watch i watch my watch mark taught me
01:22:22.160 that right away because um by staying aware i was able to stop disassociation intrusion on my brain
01:22:32.560 So we need to stop ourselves from dissociating into cell phones forever.
01:22:41.280 And a cell phone's got a clock on it, but it's not the same as being consciously aware of time.
01:22:48.340 That's a good key.
01:22:50.500 Another one, and I think one of the most important things we can do is what Align with the Divine,
01:22:56.220 the third book in my healing trilogy is all about, is that animals still have their senses.
01:23:02.560 They have telepathic capability.
01:23:05.760 They know who's good.
01:23:07.220 They recognize who's bad.
01:23:08.840 They have discernment of truth.
01:23:10.680 They know all that aspect.
01:23:12.800 Animals have their senses.
01:23:14.840 And when we connect with animals, they'll bring us back to our senses.
01:23:19.820 And it's an important part of healing to reground in the earth.
01:23:26.480 And nature is our nature.
01:23:29.520 We need to get out in it and take that back.
01:23:31.960 feel the sun on our skin and the wind in our hair, pet our dogs, learn unconditional love,
01:23:40.420 learn what that is all about again, connect with horses. Animals are so amazing. It's animals.
01:23:49.880 Growing food and growing plants is a good thing too.
01:23:53.120 well mind control shuts down neuron pathways so um the components are trauma sleep food and water
01:24:04.000 deprivation and when we understand that we know why our food has been bioengineered and genetically
01:24:11.100 altered to starve our brains why we work nine to five five to nine to put food on the table
01:24:17.000 that is genetically bioengineered, why our water is tainted, when our brains are 95% water.
01:24:27.640 These are other things that we can do for ourselves, make sure we get good nutrition,
01:24:32.360 plenty of rest. And that's just real key, having clean water. All those are
01:24:42.740 important for keeping our brain firing too but yeah i was starting to talk about the animals
01:24:49.700 when mark rescued kelly and me um the farm we were being kept on
01:24:56.540 mark knew that people who abuse children abuse animals and vice versa so um when he came to
01:25:04.520 rescue us he also rescued our cows and horses and guineas and chickens and dogs and cats and
01:25:11.260 all these animals that we'd so traumatically seen being abused by my handler. And my horse,
01:25:19.100 I had this horse that I was telepathically connected with. If I needed to go anywhere
01:25:25.280 on the farm, she would just walk up to me, stand there, and I would jump on no saddle,
01:25:30.700 no bridle, no words. She would take me where I needed to go, bring me back. That was our
01:25:37.060 connection if my handler was around she would run the other way because she was afraid of him 0.74
01:25:42.280 so when mark came to rescue us she walked up to mark and looked him in the eye and loaded herself
01:25:49.420 on the trailer and i knew then without being able to think to trust mark to even think to know there
01:25:59.100 were even good people in this world anymore um to even no capacity to think that through at all
01:26:05.800 I could sense. And when I saw my horse trusted him, I sensed that I could. And that was my first step towards being able to heal. The animal showed me the way to my senses.
01:26:21.360 you really are a miracle that you're walking around i mean you're my idol
01:26:30.060 and queen and uh example and proof and i just love you so much i love you too i love you so
01:26:40.080 much and you're so the strength of your spirit just shines so bright and i'm i'm so glad that
01:26:47.400 we're here at this at this point where we can make our voices heard and people finally get it
01:26:53.580 you think they do we've been waiting a long time I'm so busy now I'm just overwhelmed with the
01:27:00.540 the amount of people who are awake and aware and being able to positively empower them with
01:27:09.900 information empower them with this truth that makes us free and the knowledge that's our defense
01:27:17.080 against mind control so many people are realizing now that child sex trafficking is real that the
01:27:24.240 drug and human trafficking across open borders is real and they're so overwhelmed by it but they
01:27:29.780 need to realize it's within us all to heal and everyone can heal just like i have these children
01:27:36.260 can heal they just need a safe place to be they need to be able to reground with nature and it's
01:27:42.860 up to us to know, remember who we are, why we're here, live the love we are and show them the way
01:27:49.460 back to being able to live, love themselves. Well, we always talk about what can we do to
01:27:56.480 wake people up and we're always struggling with it, right? Like, what can we do? It's not happening
01:28:01.420 fast enough. It seems like it's not, but it is. It's growing real fast. We can't wake up for other
01:28:08.720 people. That's the thing. Because ultimately, it's a spiritual journey. It's a mental and
01:28:16.660 spiritual journey. They have to take themselves. They have to save themselves. We can't save other
01:28:23.260 people. How come they don't arrest anybody? I think that would go a long way to waking up a
01:28:30.760 whole hell of a lot of people. Why don't we see the Clintons or the Bush? Why don't we see somebody
01:28:37.400 arrested ever or Obama for his fake uh FISA things to spy on that you know to uh sabotage a president
01:28:48.480 of the United States he's never been held accountable for any of their treason I mean
01:28:54.380 that's treason plus stealing an election no where's Comey none of them are arrested I wonder
01:29:01.300 why. It's so difficult not seeing justice in that regard, but the system has been corrupted and
01:29:08.500 they run it. We got a long way to go to clean it up. And in the meantime, you know, we need to be
01:29:16.880 the change. It's up to us to start governing ourselves and reclaiming peace and love to our
01:29:25.400 lives, effectively protecting our children. It's going to take a long time before we see any
01:29:31.820 justice. In the meantime, we need to make some harsh penalties. We've got the death penalty for
01:29:40.740 people who rape and traffic children going into place all across the nation through the individual
01:29:46.760 states. And, you know, it's given power back to the states to carry that out.
01:29:54.540 Well, I'd like to see that law go across all 50 states.
01:29:58.680 It should happen nationally. Maybe it will as more and more people are aware of MKUltra's
01:30:06.300 far-reaching effect and how it's manipulated and caused the erosion of our justice system 0.74
01:30:12.620 to the degree that it has. Let's hope these MKUltra hearings continue and that the vastness 0.79
01:30:20.740 of the information that needs to come out comes out so we can effectively clean up this system. 0.78
01:30:27.480 Well, everybody needs to bring Kathy O'Brien to speak to them. And I love the way you instruct
01:30:35.540 instructors, particularly the way you instruct religious instructors, because they're so far
01:30:42.440 off. They don't know how to help kids. They just re-traumatize them all together again with that
01:30:49.720 cult thinking. Yeah. And we've got to get, um, you know, PTSD time to heal should be taught in
01:30:59.380 education. It should be taught in religion, aligned with the divine, definitely. It needs
01:31:08.440 to reach people everywhere so that they can start making the difference in their churches,
01:31:15.040 their communities, their schools, and wherever else they need to be making that difference.
01:31:21.140 But again, it begins within each and every one of us.
01:31:25.300 well doesn't it begin within each and every one of us to demand that people who are in
01:31:31.080 positions of authority do the right thing rather than the wrong thing right because because we're
01:31:37.760 the ones um we the people that's what our constitution says this is uh we're the ones
01:31:44.060 who tell government what to do instead government has been uh manipulating us into compliance it's
01:31:51.280 it's time that they listen to us. And I always say when people lead, leaders follow.
01:31:58.660 Where can people go to get your trilogy books or where can we send them?
01:32:02.540 All my books are secured on my website at trance-formation.com, T-R-A-N-C-E hyphen
01:32:11.040 formation.com. All my blog posts are there. A lot of information that applies to today.
01:32:18.940 my books are also secured on audible i read them all myself to preserve the integrity of
01:32:25.300 information um yeah i encourage people be mindful where um they get their information and then
01:32:33.400 research further um free ebooks are all over the internet of of my testimony that they have been
01:32:41.540 altered. Um, they're pirated and, um, and posted that way. So, you know, go to the source for
01:32:48.360 information, um, and then research further because the more, you know, the more you see
01:32:53.880 it's absolutely inexcusable that we allow these dark negative energy force to manipulate our
01:33:02.140 brilliant minds and lives anymore. PTSD time to heal secured on my website right there. Anybody
01:33:09.180 can have it it's an ebook form um with a pay what you can if you can options so anybody who can't
01:33:16.840 afford it or can't have a money trail to their healing just you know zero out the cost and take
01:33:22.720 it it's right there for everyone and it's having a profound effect on waking people up so all of it
01:33:29.060 right there on trance-formation.com and if people want to help with helping rebuild your house
01:33:34.340 because you were telling me the insurance wasn't helping
01:33:36.200 after the mysterious tornado.
01:33:38.740 They can help you there or then go there?
01:33:41.480 Yes, thank you for that.
01:33:43.200 Of course.
01:33:43.380 I deeply appreciate that.
01:33:45.700 People helping people is what's making the difference in the world,
01:33:49.000 and I really appreciate the help that people are giving me.
01:33:54.940 I certainly need it.
01:33:56.320 My daughter Kelly and I need help to rebuild our house
01:34:00.520 and get the roof back on it.
01:34:04.340 Well, I just want everyone to know that I'm contributing,
01:34:07.500 and I'd ask anybody who likes me to join me in contributing, too.
01:34:12.080 Absolutely.
01:34:12.500 You know, I love Kathy, and, you know, she's a very bright light in this world.
01:34:20.420 She helped me through my firing time and all that happened with that
01:34:29.460 and a whole bunch of other stuff.
01:34:31.220 She's a dear friend and a bright light that I look to and love so much.
01:34:36.360 And plus, she's very fun.
01:34:39.360 She's a fun friend, too.
01:34:41.540 Aren't you?
01:34:42.200 We have fun.
01:34:43.280 We have a lot of fun, yeah.
01:34:44.600 Yeah, you guys had like a girls weekend this weekend.
01:34:46.280 We did.
01:34:47.000 I'm glad you finally came to our house, our mom's house.
01:34:49.700 We were so happy to have you come.
01:34:51.120 Wanted to be here for a long time.
01:34:52.220 I'm going to her house next and stay in there.
01:34:54.520 All right. 0.98
01:34:54.840 But they better not try any fucking tournade do's while I'm there. 0.95
01:34:59.840 all right thank you for joining us today and uh so you see my patience is running thin 0.94
01:35:10.060 in this synthetic world we're living in love you kathy love you too thank you
01:35:18.520 Oh, you see, my patience is growing thin
01:35:29.520 With this synthetic world
01:35:34.520 We're living in