We finally got Ryan Long!!!! | The Roseanne Barr Podcast #048
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2 hours and 12 minutes
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Summary
Ryan Long is a comedian, writer, podcaster, and all-around hilarious human being. In this episode of The Roseanne Bar Podcast, Ryan talks about his life growing up in the late 80s and early 90s, how he got his start in comedy, and what it was like growing up on the set of Roseanne. He also shares some of his favorite memories of working on the hit sitcom, Roseanne, and reminisces about the early days of his time on the show. He also talks about how he and Roseanne's father, Norm Macdonald, were the first couple to get married and have kids, and how it changed the way he looked at life. And, of course, there's a little bit about his favorite TV show, The Office. This episode was brought to you by BetMGM and GameSense. If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you, please contact Connects Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor. Free of charge. BetmGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Light up Black Friday with Freedom Mobile and get 50 gigs to use in Canada, the US, the U.S., and Mexico for just $35 a month for 18 months. Plus, get a one-time gift of 5 gigs of Rome Beyond Data. Only to wager Ontario only. Please play responsibly! -BetMGMGM Casino - BetMEGMGM Casino BetmoGMGOLD - the king of online casinos. Betonline - $19.99, 19+ to Wager Ontario - $99.99 plus $5,99 + $99,99.00 + $25,99,19 + $50,99 BetOnline - $20,99 plus + $35,99 & $50 + $150,99 (plus + $100,99). BetOnline Casino - $19,99! BetMOGM - BetOnline, & GameSense, the King of Online Betmovers, $24.99 + + $20 + $95,99 Plus + $75,99 and $150 + $521,99 - $25 + $200 + $24,99 ! BetOnline Betonline, $24 + $55 + $85 + $45 + $56 + $76 + $48 + $81 + $74 + $79 + $83 + $87 +
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Hi, Livia. I got to do an intro for the Roseanne Bar Podcast. Are you wearing, is she naked?
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Okay. Let's get out of the line of the camera then because we don't, we don't want,
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some of the people that listen to this show I don't really trust. You know, let's be honest.
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Anyway, welcome to the Roseanne Bar Podcast. This is Jake Pentland. I just want to tell you this
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episode that follows with Ryan Long is an excellent episode. However, there were some audio complications.
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I won't get into the technical specifics. I will just say this. I had a professional audio guy
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three months ago come and tell me what to do because I wanted to give you the best audio
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and everything he told me was wrong and I'm never using him again and I'm not blaming him,
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but it's all 100% completely his fault. He told me to use a compressor on this recording equipment
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and all it does is lift everybody's mic up. So sometimes when I talk, you can hear me
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and my mother's mic. When Ryan talks, you can hear mom and it's just not good sound.
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I have fixed the problem. Everything going forward will be fine. I just want you to know
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we did our best to clean up the audio on this. I actually had a friend of mine who's a professional
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audio engineer go in and edit it. It will sound hollow and weird at times. I don't think it's
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a big deal, but I just want to put that out because I want to bring you the best technical
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product every week and my mom and I love this show and we love it. Could you be quiet, Livia Pearl?
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So excited for the Roseanne Bar podcast today because this is going to be a journey. A journey
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in the mind of a genius and a giant and a, uh, just a freaking absolute talent whom I just love
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so much. Thank you. Ryan Long. We are out here. What a treat to be here. You know, you know what?
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I always, uh, I always kind of think one of my like favorite times being entertainment was I think
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about it when I took a, I was taking a plane to Austin and we, we got sat beside each other and I'd,
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I, I seen you the night before and you were kind of telling me all the stories about the sitcom era.
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And, but the one thing he said that I like actually 12 people doesn't, I think about it a lot when
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you were, cause I grew up in the nineties. I watched it all. And then you're saying in the
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writing room, uh, where people would bring the scripts that got all sad at the end and you got,
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you and Norm Macdonald would be like, someone's trying to win an enemy. That to me is like the funniest
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story. I remember that era where all, everything was just getting, you know, every, it was the,
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Will Smith, the lights out at the end and we're all doing sad stuff to win Emmys.
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Yeah. I just said, don't be trying to fucking win an Emmy on my show. That's one of the greetings I
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did for the writing staff. Dude, I remember cause you, as a viewer, you sort of like, you noticed the
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trend, but like, you don't never noticed the behind the curtain where you're like, Oh right.
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Like they're all trying to seem profound. Oh my God. They had no life experience. They had
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no kids. Yeah. They was married to somebody they hate and never want to go home. So they live there
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on my diamond, you know, in, you know, cause I'm paying for that building they're living in
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and everything they're eating and doing over there. That's coming out of my check and, uh, they should
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just go home cause they certainly ain't working. They's all like playing games, bullshitting
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around, taking drugs, taking naps. Just like a writer's room. Like this podcast.
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And then I hate me. Yeah. Except for I'm living in. But, uh, yeah. And I just couldn't stand
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it because I go, these fat cat motherfuckers, they got in their contract, they got 25 K a week.
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Woo. And they're bitching about the janitors the whole time. Like, well, there's your uppity,
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the janitors there. I mean, I'm telling you, I saw too much. It was too fucking fucked.
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People's head get blown up really quick. Hey, like day one, they're like, Oh, should I even be
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your day two? They're throwing stuff on the far, like you're going to clean that up or what is this
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guy even doing? I didn't. I was always like this and recording. My thing was like, I need to record
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this for future shows and, you know, uh, material because it was unreal. The shit I saw you could
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not write it. You could not write it. Interesting. You know, Dan Schneider's doing his thing in your
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writer's room. Probably. No, he was not one of my writers. I'm really proud that he wasn't one of my
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writers. Yeah. What did you think of that whole thing?
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Well, I knew a ton about it for since I got out there to Hollywood and saw what was going on,
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you know, and I was a, an activist for children's rights. So I knew and found out a whole bunch of
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shit. And so it's the, it's a lot of the kids shows that basically, I guess any job that has a
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lot of kids. You know what it is? It's a fucking rotten, it's a goddamn satanic corporation. A
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corporation is a monument to Satan. I'm telling you what. You look mind blown there a little
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bit. Well, just every corporation or you're saying Hollywood? Just the corporate structure
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itself. It is the least democratic thing on fucking earth. You get fired. Do you think that's good or
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bad? Uh, it's terrible. Do you think corporations should be democratic? Uh, I don't think they
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should be able to impose their elitist will on captive populations once they force them to
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fucking get jabbed in the eye 18 times by law. No. Hell yeah. And then get kicked off because
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you're going, what's going on? You insurrectionist, you're going to fucking prison while I burn this
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whole goddamn town down and get away with it. It's just fucking Nazisville. It ain't nothing
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Do you think Hollywood's the worst? Do you think Hollywood's worse than, you know, Silicon Valley
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or DC? Well, they're all part of the same deal and they all play a different role, but they're all
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in the snake. It always makes me laugh that people always talk about how DC has these kind
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of elite sex cults, you know, and then you kind of look at the politicians and you're like, I mean,
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I hope not. I hope you don't, you, you make it to the top of DC. They bring you into a room. It's
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just like Nancy Pelosi, Ted Cruz and Mitch McConnell. And you're like, this is what you do. And they're
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like, you, you earned this. And you're like, I'm actually good. Uh, I'm probably good on that.
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Nancy Pelosi with her legs behind her head. You know how, um, no, they get the sex,
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servants. They get like the young children. They still all have to be in the room together.
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Like even if you, even if you got two prostitutes, even if they're smoking. I don't even know what
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you're talking about now. Well, they say DC has sex cults. Oh yeah. Like that one page
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that photographed him, not Pizzagate, the guy that just photographed himself on all fours
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ass up, taking it in the hooter right there in the Congress. Didn't you see that?
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No, there was more than one. There was like another guy recently too, that, uh, he, he
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was like, uh, I think this might've been in like the UK, but it was another guy.
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There used to, Hey, do you know how, um, they used like, there used to be a lot, like the
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member of the Republican Senator that was kind of like against gay stuff. And then he
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caught like in the bathroom blowing. I was actually the guy who busted them. I, uh, they
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came in and I was like, we got him. So I, I wasn't part of that.
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The James O'Keefe style sting. Yeah. I did that. Do you know what I mean? I should cut
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that out. I shouldn't have said that. It's all just a fucking, it's all just chronic
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masturbation and getting paid for it. Sure. I guess a lot of that they say is power really.
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Right. But do you think, okay, do you know how they're like, there would kind of used
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to be like against gay marriage and then they'd get caught with dudes. Do you think that's
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now, do you know, like it's not in America, but a lot of like the UK and Canada has this
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a bit, like a lot of places, they're like memes, sexist memes are banned and stuff like
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that. Do you think there's any super liberal politicians that are really against memes and
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they get home and they're just like, Oh yeah, my fucking memes. When she nutted, but she's
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still sucking. Like just love sexist memes. Of course. You have to go to the Senate floor
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and be like, these memes are terrible. And he gets home. He's like, women should be in
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the kitchen. Yeah. Basically the hundred percent. You mean that they, you mean that people are
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obsessed with what they loathe? Yes. Yeah. I see that.
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Projection they call it. Yeah. And they can never admit it. Hey, one thing that really would
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help people if I could offer this as an old woman. Okay. Just stop fucking around and say
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you're sorry. That is like ends a lot of pain. You're talking about keep going with
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it. Cause you're afraid to say, I did it. You're right. And I'm sorry.
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We'll be an example of someone, right? There's someone that you think that would
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help it. All the Jews in the, uh, that are going out and saying they love the Nazi Palestinians
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for the street cred. I'm not going to take it. Right. You see what I'm saying? Well, from
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the river to the sea, Palestine will be Jew free. You sons of a bitch. They've already
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ethnically cleansed every Jew out of 57 Arab States, which the Muslim Brotherhood run media,
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which all the Jews worked for, for Obama. They won't let nobody know that. So that's why
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I just said it. So suck it. Yeah. We've been doing it every week. We've been, we've been
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a trans man. I'm going to tell you that. Oh, you're saying what you've been doing every
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week. You said I've been riding for Hollywood or for riding for Israel every week. Is that
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what you meant? We've been talking about, we've been talking about the Muslim Brotherhood's
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role in media. Cause everyone, you can say Jews run the media. We say this every week. Like
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everyone says the Jews run the media and they do. A lot of Jews do run the media. A lot
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of Jews work in the media, but you can't say the Muslim Brotherhood does what the Muslim
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Brotherhood tells them to say. Okay. You're saying that they have their
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marching orders, which they get at 4am from the CIA, which is the Muslim Brotherhood of
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the State Department. New York's are the hub of this right now. Well, New York's the hub of
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all the protests right now. No shit. Let's talk about the protests. Well, I was just saying
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like, to me, this is like a, just to me it's funny cause it's all the, the protesters. Tom,
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just picture this right now. There is a, like a college kid explaining to his Jewish landlord
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why he can't make rent while he's wearing a fuck Zionism shirt. Oh God, is that hilarious?
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Oh my God. It's so horrible. He's just, he's like, I mean, listen, I couldn't work at the
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coffee shop. There's a lot of protest. My protesting schedule is very aggressive right now.
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Have you seen it? I mean, it's hard to talk reality when you see these Jews that are like
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with the long side locks and they're dressed like, you know, the Amish. Yeah. They basically
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look just like the Amish with side curls and they're holding that Palestine flags for fuck's
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sake. Hey, I've got another gripe if you want to tell your people. So the main camera store
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in New York, B&H, because I used to go there all the time. It's great. They run the place
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and it's run by, uh, I think Orthodox or Ascidics or something like that. Christopher, um, what's
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his name? Marcos. Yeah. Marcos. He took me back. It's closed. So it's the, they have like
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Monopoly on cameras, but then it's closed on, I guess it would be the Saturday. So it's closed
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every Friday. You also can't even go on the website on Fridays. You can't order stuff on
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Fridays. So it's like, why can't they just find non-Jews to run it on the Fridays? Why does
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the whole place have to be closed down? You know what I love? I think that's common
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sense. That's common sense. But they're not supposed to make anything work on the, on
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Shabbat. You're not supposed to. But the Jews are about loopholes, right? Well, that's
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what I think too. Well, no, that's what they do. And I did go through so many loopholes.
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Let me tell you, you know how many lawsuits I have financed in my life. Many of them are
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against the Jewish people. You did? And I've won. Yes. What's your biggest win?
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Well, I can't, I'm under NDA. Oh, they're all NDAs. Nice. Seven figures though.
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Woo! Publications, you can say, right? I don't think I'm allowed to say. Oh, you sued
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publications that. I did sue publications under the RICO Act and I won. With the RICO Act, like
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saying that they're a gang? Yeah, they're a gang of organized criminals in every state.
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Oh! That turns in shit on famous people and I won. And you won? Yeah, but I don't know
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why nobody's ever using that. I won that case in the Supreme Court. That's sick. I went,
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I don't care how much it costs me. I'm a rich fucking Jew, bitch. You better watch out.
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Watch out what you allow. And didn't you sue them for- Watch out what you allow.
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Didn't you sue them for telling the truth? That's what you told me once. That was what you,
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was this the same lawsuit? Oh, yeah. I said they printed something false and you said,
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no, they printed something true. That's why I was able to sue them. But is that,
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is that true? Is that the same RICO case? Yeah, kind of. I broke that all down too.
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Because they have to surround it with lies so that you won't figure out who in your household is
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selling the stories. It's a publication where people sell stories.
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On the autism spectrum, I could always figure out who the guilty one was. Like I said,
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because I always fucking won in Clue. And it was always Tom Arnold.
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And I watched the ID channel. So I know how the criminal mind works, you see.
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She's a profiler. Because my grandpa and both my grandpas had criminal minds.
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Well, they're Jews. Of course they did. Yeah. Well, they had to or they wouldn't have got no money.
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Dude, that's wild. Jews may have to make their money on the black market,
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just like in the following ages. So did the African-Americans and the Hispanics.
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And the Kennedys. And the Kennedys. Everybody's got to make their money on the black market in
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America. That's how you do it. I mean, my mind's blown by the fact that you sued the
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media basically saying they operate like a gang. Because they do, obviously.
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Yeah. Even worse now. Because one guy calls another guy,
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because they was turning in stories about me wherever I was going across the country.
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What's that? Yeah, because they can all. They was fucking turning in what I was eating in what
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hotel at what time. And then they just got to. Did you have a mall? Huh? Did you have a mall?
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Well, of course. There was always a mall. There's malls everywhere. Drake has a mall in OVO right now.
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You're basically the same thing. What's this rap thing? Drake, yeah. Drake, man.
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Oh, they came hard for Drake. He's a Jewish brethren, right? Oh, he had the six. In the six, yeah.
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That's my city. Is that your city? That's my city.
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I love performing there. People are so smart. Yeah. And they have the best reserve store
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that's ever been for a Jewish woman with large breasts. Really?
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Right there in Toronto, which is why I always accepted the invitations to perform there.
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Yeah. For like the Jewish woman. It was like handmade for the Jewish woman.
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I actually know because in Toronto, it also has the best store for underwear for men with
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Wait, I usually have to go twice a week because I wear out the other ones.
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Well, when you're a Jew, you have very large breasts. And also, you have a lot of bat fat.
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Yes. So, you've got to balance that all out with the proper foundation.
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Think about it, yeah. It's pretty true, actually.
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The proper foundation must be had. They've got to have the high sides. Now, none of these
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bitches always have the high sides because they always are really skinny.
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I guess you're saying that like big ribs or like Japanese girls that have no bat fat.
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The duplex. There's your butt and then you have the one above it. You're talking about that one?
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Your back top butt. Yeah, that's a high side. It looks like a four pack of buns is what I'm saying.
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Oh, we all talk about it every time behind your back.
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Yeah, well, anyway, we can't talk about that lawsuit apparently much more. But can you
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guys tell me what this rap beef is? Because I don't know about it.
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Just like trying to make you look bad so we can break up with you and he seems like
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He was selling stories before you got rich with him.
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Well, when you're on coke, that's a good amount of money.
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But even worse than that, because most drunk, most drug addicts have the decency to overdose
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and die, but when they get sober, the damage they begin to inflict on their victims is un-fucking
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Because their self-righteous gene kicks in, because they're like, sober 30 days, I didn't
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Oh, it's like narcissism to the millionth degree of nastiness.
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I'm the king of morality, because I haven't had a drink in a week.
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Yeah, I haven't fucked nobody over, because I wasn't drunk enough.
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Yeah, I didn't steal from my mother for eight days.
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They never paid the price for their transition.
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I was, that was the first time I noticed when they, people was talking about transitioning.
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He's transitioning from a drug addict to an asshole?
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Then they get all self-righteous with the God shit, too.
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Oh, the Lord, as the Lord hath saith, he forgives me for what I did to you, and if you have decency
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And you're thinking, can you please just do some heroin and go back to stealing from me?
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I liked it better when you were leaking stories.
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That would be less gaslighting involved with the saved shit.
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They can never recover that they were a fucking asshole who stole from all their friends.
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And fucking did a million other nasty things that they think, because they got sober, that
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You owe money to all those kids you left behind and their mothers when you was drunk and running
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Go pay your fucking fines and then come back and talk about self-righteousness.
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And in the meantime, so why don't you kiss my fucking drunken ass?
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Selling secrets from a, like your wife is pretty low on the scale-
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Well, I did a lot of that in my family, actually.
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Yeah, two uncles, I mean, they're dead now and they would steal from my grandma and it
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was kind of like a whole debacle that went on forever and no one knew what to do about
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You know, they always forgive them, especially when it's your kids, right?
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And then, you know, then two weeks later, they drained your, you know, social security kind
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Like when she died, it was like all the money was drained.
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When he died, like they couldn't even do the funerals because like she had no money.
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So it was like, yeah, just, and then they'd like kind of break up, break in and like sell
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like Elvis memorabilia, you know, just like my mom went there and she was like, the walls
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Just like, yeah, classic, like drug addict stuff.
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I guess the good answer is then they become righteous, but that didn't happen in this
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Well, that's why I'm not opposed to that Fioranol coming across the board.
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And then after my uncles died, I said, I'm going to stop putting it in my product that
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But I mean, really, it's going to clear out drug addicts.
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The problem with fentanyl is that kids can like touch a doorknob and die.
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Well, also just like a cool guy can be partying, you know?
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Dude, it's like crazy the amount of, whereas like before, I don't think you knew a ton of
00:24:00.920
Dude, in LA comedy, there was, I forget that girl's name, Kate Quigley or something.
00:24:15.200
And yet in comedy, there's, I think everyone knows someone that, you know, did that.
00:24:20.860
When we were at Skank Fest, remember, they tested that guy's coke and he had fentanyl.
00:24:25.240
And remember when we were in Skank Fest on stage, someone had coke.
00:24:30.180
They tested it right there and had fucking fentanyl at Skank Fest and they stopped it.
00:24:38.340
No, it's really scary because it just, it takes, I mean, I mean, George Floyd died of
00:24:59.460
And then it just, it takes so little to kill you.
00:25:04.520
I know the lady in Texas that she's on the PTA.
00:25:12.880
I think the idea is you just, if you, you can sell way less coke if you put fentanyl in,
00:25:17.980
It's like baby powder used to be or something, but it gets you high.
00:25:29.580
It's getting so as you can't even take illegal drugs anymore.
00:25:33.840
Well, that's like, to be honest, that a lot of people do kind of think that, like, I
00:25:38.240
think there's a lot of people that nowadays like would be at a party and they're like,
00:25:42.200
yo, I'm not going to just take like random coke.
00:25:52.580
As long as you don't fucking sell a story to the Enquirer, I don't really give a shit.
00:25:57.740
I've seen a few times when I was Tom Arnold's girlfriend or, you know, comedy partner, we
00:26:13.780
It does give you the worst headache, especially in the morning.
00:26:29.120
Yeah, you're probably already like kind of a high person, too, right?
00:26:31.600
Like, I think a lot of people, I think a lot of my friends that are like the most into
00:26:35.380
it, it's like they're almost like low socially.
00:26:39.060
And then, you know, that turns them into the person they want to be a little bit, you
00:26:48.040
I've watched a lot of comics do that because they're, but it's not, it's, they're so tired
00:26:57.800
They're so burnt out and tired and used up that they think they got to amp it all up
00:27:06.760
When, if they just rested for six months, it'd come naturally, you know.
00:27:12.320
And also you put it into your, like with creativity, with anything, with, you know, touring,
00:27:17.180
like if you bake, you know, being on drugs into your system, then all your brain pathways
00:27:26.380
And then you're like, well, I don't know how to do it without that.
00:27:28.680
So many people have that where it's like, you know, I can only write when I smoke weed.
00:27:33.520
Like, and then you're just like, you do it without, they're like, well, that'd be like
00:27:41.400
I think that for a lot of people, it's like how at some point, especially when you're
00:27:45.900
like in the thick of like being popular, it's just like, boom, boom, boom.
00:27:54.520
So it's hard to change your system once it's, you almost have to just like start not doing
00:27:58.900
I think that's like the, the, whenever you see like new comics, they're just like, oh yeah,
00:28:03.700
Like I drink four or five beers a night before every show.
00:28:05.800
And you're just like, this is going to be like bad for you.
00:28:11.820
Like that's not the normal, but you're, you're in, you're like, now you're just into the art
00:28:20.620
I think there's a big difference between like learning something drunk and then learning
00:28:30.380
But it's almost like the learnings where your brain pathways get shaped, you know?
00:28:35.800
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I mean, that, like, what's-his-face really came for Drake, didn't he?
00:33:02.980
Well, it depends on, but if not, because they're 19.
00:33:05.600
No, he was texting the girl from Stranger Things years ago.
00:33:08.600
A child of legal, under the legal age, that's a child.
00:33:14.600
Yeah, I mean, this is always one of those things where you don't want to be the guy, like, arguing.
00:33:22.740
But I said Drake was a pedophile six years ago.
00:33:28.660
He was texting that girl that played 11 on Stranger Things when she was, I think, 11 or 12.
00:33:33.900
Well, his side of that is like, yeah, we're friends.
00:33:38.200
It is obviously, you're just like, yes, my buddy.
00:33:45.760
But then, also, he's a child actor, so he was obviously molested and raped on the set.
00:34:14.560
It was like one of the biggest Canadian shows that ever kind of became popular in America.
00:34:30.900
And then I remember he got interviewed when he was like 19 after Degrassi ended or whatever
00:34:36.700
And they were basically doing that thing where they parade like, look at this fucking loser
00:34:41.380
And then it becomes like one of the biggest rappers in the world.
00:34:45.180
Well, that's obviously the diss battles become like essentially like a gossip fest now.
00:34:48.400
I mean, kind of all of the internet is like a gossip fest.
00:34:55.980
I mean, no masculine guy gives a two fucking shits about it.
00:34:58.920
I just don't understand why everyone's surprised about Pete Degrassi.
00:35:04.120
Just so you know, like we all have been saying this about you.
00:35:08.920
Can I just say one thing and I'll let you talk.
00:35:13.540
It's guys like, I'm going to like to act hard, but you're singing, you're writing poetry.
00:35:20.980
I always look at, no, I know you were in a band, but at least you were.
00:35:25.820
Listen, I don't, I moved to New York to be an artist.
00:35:29.400
I'm not ever claiming I'm the most pinnacle of masculinity.
00:35:37.160
Being an artist is not the most masculine thing in the world.
00:35:55.120
So several nights ago, Jimmy said we should try to get a new kind of dishwasher.
00:36:07.380
I mean, creativity is inherently somewhat feminine.
00:36:15.460
Well, that was a manifestation of the creativity in my opinion.
00:36:21.720
The creativity part is, you know, the alchemy and that part of it is like, you know, it's
00:36:27.320
kind of even like politically, like create, you know, like a kind of more conservative
00:36:33.200
So you solve it and this is we're going to do this.
00:36:34.700
And, you know, and I think the feminine portion is a little more, whereas the out of
00:36:38.080
the box component, you know, and it's kind of one of those things where, in my opinion,
00:36:47.400
So if I'm, if I'm thinking of things like most of the time, you're kind of, you know, putting
00:36:54.120
But then once in a while, you're coming up with a great connection.
00:36:56.340
I think that if you are just too hyper masculine, you actually remove the creative parts because
00:37:04.660
And you're like, most of the time you're right.
00:37:06.220
But when you're not right, that's like the creative.
00:37:11.440
I'll tell you what, no, none of you, very few men, you're, you guys are the exceptions.
00:37:24.620
They're not here to develop their feminine, feminine side for fuck's sake.
00:37:35.800
And so that's what they need to stick to is the, you know.
00:37:40.320
Generally speaking, because there are creatives.
00:37:42.260
Well, a lot of us, they make it, there's manly ways to sell things.
00:37:48.860
Like that's like a tech version of like how to describe that thinking in a masculine way.
00:37:55.960
Because, you know, the whole computer is based on the way women think.
00:38:15.680
It's in a circular rather than a linear thought form.
00:38:29.700
So I'm sure that comedically you've probably been in, you know, when you're hiring writers
00:38:34.900
or the, you know, I'm sure you've run this type of thing millions of times in your life.
00:38:38.180
There's probably, I bet you 95% of the people you're like, give me all your ideas.
00:38:42.820
And you're like, I thought of all of that in the first second of thinking of this problem.
00:38:46.860
And then there's other people that they're in, they're very rare where they say something
00:38:54.480
Most people that you hire, you're like everything you just told me.
00:39:07.740
You're just like, you're, it's so, and then there's very few people that you call and
00:39:11.600
you're kind of like looking for out of box solutions.
00:39:17.900
And how much of politics when they're talking about, you know, you hear Democrats and Republicans
00:39:22.600
arguing, you're like, yes, I know all of these things.
00:39:31.360
And, and I, that's why I think I'm always like leaning towards execution is so much more
00:39:38.440
How many times have you been like, I always think in art, it's like such the perfect way to look
00:39:43.580
at it is you're always kind of the industry, which is very like binary thinking.
00:39:49.740
They're always kind of like pitches ideas and it'll be kind of like, okay, what about
00:39:53.840
the, they're janitors and they work at this place.
00:39:56.800
And they're like, no, like as if the idea matters and that, like what matters is the
00:40:00.220
person who's making it, their execution, their perspective, who they can hire.
00:40:02.820
I think it always reminds me, imagine if you were doing music and you were like a musician
00:40:06.560
going to like a label boss and they're like, okay, what's the new song going to about you?
00:40:10.140
They're like, I think I'm going to write this song about love.
00:40:13.060
And the guy's like, okay, it's about killing someone.
00:40:22.960
People talk too much about like idea versus idea and there are ideas that are bad, but
00:40:26.680
what would really be better is like the best executor will do a better job of the country
00:40:31.520
and it'll actually help your problems better too.
00:40:33.520
But when the whole thing's corrupt, this is kind of relevant.
00:40:36.000
You just like, if you have a bad TV show and all the writers are bad, all the staff's
00:40:42.540
It really doesn't matter when you're too arguing over these two ideas.
00:40:46.280
You're like, this is going to suck no matter who wins this little idea battle.
00:40:49.540
And I think a lot of the world kind of lacks execution and too many ideas.
00:40:57.140
And like I always said to my writers whom I forced to wear numbers, you know.
00:41:07.280
No, they didn't do anything like that, but they had to wear numbers.
00:41:12.240
Because I had this suspicion because they'd come down to the run through and I'd hear
00:41:20.000
And I figured out, they're only laughing at the ones they wrote around me to like, you
00:41:42.600
I used to really like his old show, The Jamie Kennedy Experiment.
00:41:45.140
I remember, but he had one thing where he did exactly that.
00:41:47.460
He was in a room where they were doing, um, uh, he made these really bad, like, segments
00:42:02.960
And you gave them numbers and then if their joke was good, you go, hey, seven and eight,
00:42:11.640
I'd be like, well, number 19 left at such and such, so he wrote them.
00:42:22.020
So I was making these systems for myself to figure shit out.
00:42:24.120
Part of it was also so they wouldn't get a big head, I assume.
00:42:32.000
I did try to work at, like, a factory and, um...
00:42:48.460
So that kind of a factory, you know, Warhol stuff.
00:42:54.080
There's some of those things where if you kind of run a thing, everyone's going to kind
00:43:03.140
The internet right now, if you were the first to come up with, like, a really good way of,
00:43:06.660
like, synthesizing ideas and explaining to someone, you're like, if that was really
00:43:09.800
good, by nature of it being good, there's going to be a lot of people doing it in a
00:43:21.520
Yeah, I think it's really short-sighted thinking to be kind of like, these guys all...
00:43:25.840
And I think that when people are on the internet, you're kind of just like, yeah, that's going
00:43:31.740
I just like that I can originate a thought that waves through consciousness.
00:43:44.700
And if you do that, like, 10 times in your career, you're like, that was good.
00:43:51.240
Well, I'm just saying, like, I'm saying that would be like, if someone did that 10 times,
00:43:54.700
If you did it 80 times or 150 times, you're like, well, now I'm... or 2,000 times, you're like,
00:44:00.480
Because I just feel like, oh, it's such a beautiful connection between me and the zeitgeist.
00:44:19.360
You know what else that I was kind of thinking about that?
00:44:22.860
Some of it comes down to, like, a lot of times, like, knowing what your actual place in the
00:44:28.440
Because there's some people that are really good at, you know, kind of, like, synthesizing
00:44:33.720
ideas and, like, you know, like, a lot of the best... a lot of the best writers are really
00:44:38.920
good at just, like, really flushing out an idea.
00:44:41.740
And then a really good comedian's really good at taking all that and making this into a sentence
00:44:50.660
And some people are really good at, like, almost, like, evangelizing for ideas.
00:44:54.880
They're almost less good at maybe coming up with original stuff.
00:44:59.320
I always use those people, those kind of writers, as, like, writing the through line,
00:45:04.660
making sure a through line, you know, making sure they brought that through line because
00:45:12.160
Those bones, because I looked at it like a skeleton we're putting together.
00:45:17.880
So those bones they brought, and it was very much a part of it.
00:45:23.120
Yeah, like, there's certain people where they're, like...
00:45:25.480
You know, adding the context and the tense to a story.
00:45:30.080
And then there's some people that are more, like, you know, kind of creative geniuses that
00:45:33.700
they need one of those people to sort of, like, house this shit and, like, sell it.
00:45:40.940
Yeah, and it's cool to see the synthesis of those various kind of artists working together
00:45:53.160
I liked about Andy Warhol's work that he did with, you know, people at the factory.
00:46:00.360
You need one crazy genius and one make-it-happen guy.
00:46:05.000
To sometimes tell the crazy genius, okay, take, like, no, not that, move on, like, you
00:46:10.600
know, keep him going, and then just be like, oh, we can do that.
00:46:13.300
And then someone to just be kind of, like, and I think those are the best pairings a lot
00:46:23.280
But I think of you as being, like, I mean, I want to, I always wanted to, you know, well,
00:46:31.280
anyway, do you know, I'm trying to come up with how to say it.
00:46:37.440
Well, you know, I started my career in Denver, Colorado in a mosh pit.
00:46:45.520
Because I couldn't get on the regular white people stage there at the comedy clubs.
00:47:03.840
Yeah, it's a harder path to be the person that's going to do it differently, you know.
00:47:07.760
So I had to go to, like, biker bars and jazz clubs, and, I mean, I'm happy now because
00:47:17.180
But, yeah, I actually used to be in a mosh pit doing my act with no microphone.
00:47:29.060
I've done comedy every last little place you can do it.
00:47:36.320
I mean, I've done it outside like a street performer as well.
00:47:39.280
Do you think it's pre-war Berlin and we're doing that?
00:47:42.760
I wasn't there, so I have a hard time comparing.
00:47:45.800
No, but I mean, it's just like there's no law, there's no order, and we're trying to make
00:47:54.820
Yeah, that's when you get, when you start to do better at comedy, you're like, the one
00:47:57.960
good thing is I don't have to convince them to stay.
00:48:02.480
Like, at least they're here in their seats, and there are bills coming that they have
00:48:06.400
to pay at some point, whereas like, you know, you're in these other places, people are trying
00:48:09.780
to watch the, you know, they're trying to watch the game.
00:48:11.980
They're, most, most, my first probably three years of doing comedy was doing comedy for
00:48:16.180
people that like were kind of pissed off that we started doing this.
00:48:19.280
They're like at a bar, and we start doing comedy, and they're like, Jesus, fuck it up.
00:48:22.360
And you're like, no, no, I promise, like, give us two people, we'll be like, you know.
00:48:26.620
But I want always to be in a punk rock band, because I did sing, I did sing in a punk rock
00:48:32.580
band for a while, I fucking loved it, and I played at CBGB, it was a dream come true.
00:48:44.020
No, this was when she was, this is like Andy Kaufman, she was famous, and then did it.
00:48:52.360
People would show up, and they're like, oh, Roseanne Parr's in a band, and then she was
00:48:56.300
It was so fucking cool, because I just love punk rock, and that's why, you know, I know
00:49:07.820
It's like a, it's kind of like Southern Ontario, there's like kind of this big scene of a lot
00:49:12.200
of, like, there's, punk was big, Ska was big, a lot of, like, a huge reggae influence
00:49:16.680
and all that, but it was all guys that kind of grew up listening to Beastie Boys and stuff,
00:49:21.380
So you started, I just want to do a little bio thing real quick, if you don't mind.
00:49:25.040
So you started doing Ska Punk in Canada, right?
00:49:30.280
Yeah, I was in, like, kind of different bands, but that was the biggest one, yeah.
00:49:34.820
So I've just been doing music my whole life, and then...
00:49:37.780
So it was kind of always music and videos, like I was a big...
00:49:42.380
Music, you know, since I was seven or whatever, forced to...
00:49:46.080
Against my will to play piano and stuff, you know?
00:49:48.420
Why were you forced against your will to play piano?
00:49:54.080
You play hockey, and you play piano, and then you can go do your other stuff.
00:49:58.400
Dude, it was legitimately growing up, it was like, no, you go in the basement,
00:50:01.380
you have to play piano for half an hour, and then you have to do, you know,
00:50:09.600
Like, that was our, like, Asian family make you do an extra math.
00:50:13.020
That was, we had to play piano on hockey shots.
00:50:16.240
Legitimately, yeah, the amount of hockey I was forced to do against my will, but...
00:50:22.020
I remember some of my least favorite moments of my life was sitting at that piano bench.
00:50:29.020
I put the timer there, and I just remember, like, on the bench, being seven years old,
00:50:36.580
Me and my sister, we had this teacher, Mr. Marcroft, and he had the worst B.O. in breath
00:50:44.400
ever, and he'd come to our house because we had to take piano, too.
00:50:50.780
But then I started playing guitar and drums, and then I, you know, whatever, I'm glad I
00:50:59.760
I think there is some benefit of, you know, piano is good for the brain and all that sort
00:51:07.040
So, I'm, like, you know, probably I spend a huge amount of my time editing, and I have
00:51:11.540
my whole life, you know, making videos and editing.
00:51:17.240
We'll finish that one sentence, is that I've hired a million editors, and I've never met
00:51:37.820
What the fuck is all this shit about frequency?
00:51:45.640
I really do think of, like, editing a video like that.
00:51:48.240
It's like you have, you know, your kind of audio is like the drums, and then, you
00:51:51.660
know, the talking becomes sort of like the rhythmic components, and then you sort
00:51:55.900
of, you know, you have to have a pacing, and if you break your pacing, that has
00:52:02.180
There's a reason why a lot of the best comedians, like, not even comedians, comedians
00:52:06.020
that do, like, video stuff, like, on the street stuff, comedians that do, like, sketches,
00:52:12.700
So many of the best shows, the head editor that, you know, there's a lot of these big
00:52:16.200
comedy shows, like, that you look in the editor.
00:52:20.260
And the sitcom's a little different, because, you know, those things operate a little different.
00:52:24.220
I'm talking about, like, sketch, especially when there's, like, a music, you know, cue
00:52:28.020
You look at, like, the five biggest ones, and, like, all of it, you go look at the guy
00:52:31.600
that was in charge of editing that, and he was, like, a big musician.
00:52:36.440
I wish people could watch my Saturday night special.
00:52:40.660
I think I had 11 episodes before Fox took me down.
00:52:47.320
Saturday night live, and Lorne Michaels, the shit he did to me was un-fucking-believable.
00:52:54.120
I'm going to write about it in my new book coming out.
00:53:02.160
No, it's gaslighting, putting clones in places.
00:53:13.400
He was taking out his competition, which you've got to respect, you know.
00:53:21.540
The game's the game, and I was, you know, I was just-
00:53:26.000
My thing was just excellence, and of course, that failed.
00:53:39.180
I need to get a lawyer that won't charge me $900,000 to make $20,000.
00:53:48.160
Lawyers, I mean, my rabbi that taught me a lot of Kabbalah, he was a lovely man, and he
00:53:57.100
Like he would say, love is the answer to everything.
00:54:00.520
We've got to love, you know, love, love, the power of love, blah, blah.
00:54:18.720
That's why it never works, because no one can do that.
00:54:28.020
I can't love someone that I, like a fucking, that I disagree with.
00:54:35.900
I think there's a, like a, a way to do that where it's not, you kind of, you raise above
00:54:41.880
it where it's like, I mean, even think about, we're talking about the rap piece of your
00:54:54.660
Well, then you're never going to say you're sorry.
00:55:10.640
So my rabbi said, which one was it that he said?
00:55:32.840
I just want to say, Shmuli is the worst thing that happened to you.
00:55:42.280
He goes, a bus goes off the side of a cliff with 29 lawyers on it.
00:55:56.020
Well, that, you know, 20, 29 souls have been lost.
00:56:09.820
But yeah, the lawyer thing, that's some shit, ain't it?
00:56:19.440
I mean, one thing that, probably the one thing about it that I'm conflicted about is,
00:56:25.160
it's just like crazy to me to some degree where you're like, you could be like a normal
00:56:29.100
person and worked your whole life and you have like, you know, maybe like 800 grand
00:56:33.340
And then someone just like sues you for all your money and then you're just like broken.
00:56:36.180
It's like, I'm kind of messed up because you like said something.
00:56:39.540
Like that to me is just like, I don't know, it's just like messed up.
00:56:43.540
Yeah, it's just like, that shit kind of like keeps you on edge, you know?
00:56:50.720
Yeah, and even if you're right, they can just like tie you up in court, you know?
00:56:58.960
Like, don't you think that, like, what about all these protesters?
00:57:02.280
What do you, what's your thoughts on these fucking Nazi motherfuckers?
00:57:07.640
Well, I think there's like, in this specific one, I mean, a lot of them, but there's so
00:57:12.200
many different people on the same sides, you know what I mean?
00:57:16.800
The gays with the Jews, with the Arabs, with the anti-Semites.
00:57:19.460
Yeah, and there's people that are there for different reasons.
00:57:21.640
There's people that have been like, this has been their whole deal forever, and you know
00:57:26.320
And then there's, you know, just a college kid hopping on the newest thing called, we're
00:57:32.280
Then there's just people that it's like, you know, whatever, whatever's the least, whatever's the
00:57:37.720
Like, there's just kind of, so it's hard to like cast it all together.
00:57:41.280
There's so many, which is why, to be honest, sometimes it's like hard to parse this out
00:57:45.620
because there's so many different people that are on the same side.
00:57:49.240
So to be honest, this sort of like broke up the whole structure of how society was sort
00:57:55.160
of operating for the last six years in a lot of ways.
00:57:58.740
It's a cross-faction because there's people on the right and left now that agree that
00:58:04.980
Well, a lot of these people are just libertarian.
00:58:10.480
The libertarians, I mean, I don't really want to offend them because when I ran as the candidate
00:58:15.700
of the Green Party, which I should have won, but Jill Stein cheated me out of the nomination.
00:58:24.780
They rigged their fucking election because they didn't want a working class woman.
00:58:31.040
They wanted, yeah, they wanted sort of, they're sort of like an elitist party.
00:58:44.280
They signed up for the Green Party and then they screwed them and me.
00:58:50.060
Well, why is that like an elite, the environment an elitist cause?
00:58:54.180
Because it would seem like it would be the opposite.
00:59:12.060
But they, they're the ones that are pro-environment, at least on the surface, which is a weird fancy
00:59:20.920
I think it's hard to get, I mean, it's easier to get like a working class person on board
00:59:28.120
You know, your, your race is being, uh, you know, fucked over than it is to be like the
00:59:35.060
Like it's just a more like ethereal, you know, sort of, uh, topic.
00:59:39.340
I mean, that's, that's like, you know, you're in college and I don't know.
00:59:43.060
I think it's also, uh, it's a more, it's hard to get dudes to care so much about that.
00:59:49.260
I mean, and also I think there is this other part where it's like the, the solutions a lot
00:59:53.880
of times are like, you're like, this is going to cause so much damage for what you're trying
00:59:58.000
And I think that it's hard to get people that have like real problems on board with
01:00:05.700
But I mean, it's also, it's just like the, I could see that if you're just like, you know,
01:00:14.660
You're like, that's like a sexy cause to be like, I care about the environment.
01:00:21.220
And it's also like, you're not really like getting in the muck of anything.
01:00:25.120
You're not talking about, you're just like, we need to save the tree.
01:00:28.640
It's like a sexier kind of Congo where they chop off children's arms.
01:00:33.500
Cause they don't bring up the diamonds fast enough.
01:00:37.700
This Palestine thing where there's 57 fucking Arab States, none of them, which will take
01:00:48.900
I've never seen an actual picture of the border wall of Egypt.
01:00:53.600
All those Palestinians are almost all about 90% Egyptian with Egyptian passports and Jordanian
01:01:05.620
And that's what the wall is to force them there to have a cudgel against Israel.
01:01:11.160
Do you know what I find that like when I'm talking about the Nazi world order, what you
01:01:23.700
How did, how are you, how'd you like your gig the other night, last night?
01:01:37.000
So I've been on tour for like eight months straight almost.
01:01:38.800
And now I'm like going to New York for three months and I'm just going to like work
01:01:48.840
I mean, New York is the fucking hob of comedy and always was.
01:01:54.980
So it'd be cool to have them both like, you know, commiserate.
01:02:02.140
I think that is, it's kind of a, they're funneling to each other, but I try to, it sounds like
01:02:06.560
whimsical, but like, I kind of feel like to some degree I go with my gut.
01:02:12.460
Like I've considered moving to LA and Austin or whatever.
01:02:15.020
And like, for some reason I just feel like New York's where I should be.
01:02:30.640
I love, you know, Williamsburg comedy club, the stand, uh, New York comedy club.
01:02:35.960
I told, can I tell you one more thing that there's, I've always not, the smaller the
01:02:45.560
And so, you know, the same reason why if you look, you know, you go to a place like Portland,
01:02:50.100
it's like the most one thing more than New York, even though, even though people say New
01:02:53.860
York, you know, talk about New York, like it's all just like, you know, hippie activists,
01:02:58.020
Um, so I like places that are big enough to have multiple things because thing, because
01:03:03.640
it doesn't start being too like doctrine oriented.
01:03:07.080
It doesn't mean like, we all think this, like, I feel like when it's too small, it starts to
01:03:12.460
So I think I like like the biggest place for that reason.
01:03:15.360
I would say New York is, I mean, just from my observation, much more high of mine.
01:03:23.060
Um, but I will also argue you with, uh, on that too, because I was impressed by the
01:03:27.540
comedy scene with you because I would love, you were so fun that night.
01:03:36.840
Cause you're like, you're such not a stereotype of a Jewish woman.
01:03:43.140
And then she's like, talk, like I just come outside.
01:03:45.040
You're just like talking to all these homeless people, like getting a cigarette.
01:03:47.380
That's the least Jewish woman shit I've ever seen in my life.
01:03:57.160
Do you remember when she fell asleep at the bar and you're like sitting there and you're
01:04:31.060
Getting a bow and arrow and aiming right to the heart of the fucking beast.
01:04:37.440
Well, here's where I would, here's where maybe to me it's like a little less punk rock is
01:04:41.740
because I think he represents like what half the country feels and to me, punk rock would
01:04:49.660
be more like representing, you know, more of like a 10th of the people and then convincing
01:05:00.460
I think, I think he spoke, told, I think those, I think the people existed and he just
01:05:06.180
So maybe that would be like punk once it like, once it has its culmination of like where Blink-Way
01:05:12.400
And now there's, now that's the mainstream for a second.
01:05:14.260
But I don't see him as like being completely counterculture.
01:05:18.320
I mean, you know, he was a big, I, I see him as more really good at speaking, you know,
01:05:25.480
he's really good at taking shots at the enemy and he's decided that he's going to take their
01:05:31.320
But I don't know if I totally see that as punk rock.
01:05:33.540
I see that maybe more as like, I don't know, maybe the positive version of it is you're
01:05:38.940
like, he's a good like soldier if he chooses to be your soldier.
01:05:42.280
And then the other, the bad part of it, it would be, you'd say it's opportunist.
01:05:46.240
Those would be probably the two sides of it, in my opinion.
01:05:48.820
That's why I thought you're, you're, well, I just mean that it really, really upsets the
01:05:54.980
establishment, you know, punk rock in that way.
01:06:01.280
You know, where you've got three chords on a fucking electric guitar and you're wailing
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So, you see Trump as sort of, like, you know, fighting the power.
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I see him more as, like, market-based, where it's, like, to him, he's like, hey, there's
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I found out for myself, I need a little bit more.
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You realize that everything is a spiritual journey, right?
01:12:29.980
I think I am, but maybe I just use different words for it, if that makes sense.
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Spiritual is like you're girling it up, and I don't really want that title.
01:12:45.940
I do think of things a lot of times, especially when I'm trying to do, like, my things I do.
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You know, Kanye West, a long time ago, kind of talked about how he, like, you know, he
01:13:03.680
And it's like, you look at things in energy, and there's energy pockets, right?
01:13:08.700
But then, I think that is, you know, you can think of it as, like, spiritual.
01:13:13.580
You know, even, like, a lot of times, what people say is spiritual.
01:13:16.020
It's like, you know when people say, like, the secret, where they're kind of talking about
01:13:19.580
it, like, you know, you manifest something, it's like, well, yeah, that's, like, a whimsical
01:13:25.200
But the other way to look at it is, like, if you think about something nonstop, and that's
01:13:28.840
your goal, and everything in your life serves you getting there, you're going to be more
01:13:32.240
likely to get there, which, of course, is true.
01:13:34.840
So, it doesn't have to be, like, a whimsical thing.
01:13:40.340
Yeah, it's about focus, and then all of, every decision you make, everything you read,
01:13:44.820
every person you're around, every, you know, everything in your life starts to service this
01:13:50.380
goal, and then you become more likely to achieve it, and I think that's, like, obvious, and
01:13:56.080
Because I think that's the biggest part about, when people start talking about that, you're
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like, this is what I want to accomplish, and then you go, what about this?
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So much of, like, especially once things start going well, or once your company's doing
01:14:05.700
well, or your business, or people are listening to you, it's like, how do I kill the
01:14:09.120
noise, because it becomes so much noise, and then the real thing is, so if you're
01:14:13.240
like, hey, my goal is to, you know, have a really great wife, and a family, and this
01:14:17.620
and that, it's like, everything will start to service that, you know, so I think it's
01:14:22.280
If you're living that way, and putting your focus into it, then it'll manifest.
01:14:25.660
And then it becomes the energy, because you can't intellectually do all of that, it has
01:14:29.040
to, at some point, be like, there's so much energy.
01:14:30.880
On stage, it's all energy, you're like, okay, this, that, but you're kind of like, you
01:14:34.820
know, I'm sure a lot of, like, fighters feel this way, right?
01:14:37.940
Yeah, that's a manly way to look at it, for, like, boxers.
01:14:43.060
Like, I used to take a box, I used to ask Tyson, Mike Tyson, to show me boxing shit, and he
01:14:50.500
I bet you he thinks about it somewhat the same way, you know?
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Martial arts is the most spiritual thing in the world.
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I think that, yeah, I think of what I do, it's more like energy.
01:15:03.600
I remember my first energy lesson, that was from an African woman there in San Francisco
01:15:19.560
I think so many people talk about, like, whether someone's, like, you know, they use the word,
01:15:24.580
like, grifter, and, you know, those kind of things.
01:15:26.640
And I've always think of it, the best way to describe whether, like, what would be, like,
01:15:30.840
a good, you know, artist or commentator is, like, do they replace the energy that they
01:15:37.440
Like, so many people, there's people that take energy, they're like, oh, that's energy,
01:15:41.740
And then there's people that, like, take energy, but then they also give more than they took,
01:15:45.140
which may be in the, like, what you're saying, like, in new ideas or, you know, in new ways
01:15:50.240
of thinking about it or, you know, cracking a new way for people to, you know, let's say
01:15:55.460
they're trying to solve a problem in business, like, an easier way to, you know, do banking,
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And I think the people that take, put more back in than they take a lot of times are not
01:16:03.880
allowed to show you, just like, I hope I, you know, gave these people more energy
01:16:08.460
That's, then you're like, okay, then everyone wins.
01:16:10.740
Yeah, because you got that, you have that feeling of karmic responsibility and debt both.
01:16:17.800
Like, because you know that, you know, you're, you kind of know you're gifted, don't you?
01:16:23.440
And then you're kind of grateful that you're gifted and creative is the better way.
01:16:28.940
I think you're more gifted than I am, because when I, and I don't even necessarily mean that
01:16:35.660
But I think there's kind of two, there's different types of people.
01:16:38.280
Cause like kind of the same where I was saying where there's different types of writers.
01:16:41.500
I think there's certain people that just have like such a, like you have that I now like
01:16:46.700
being around you, you have probably like a magnetism and like a star power that I think
01:16:51.040
that people probably don't always know when you're just on TV or on podcasts.
01:16:54.380
I'm sure it comes across, but like, it's like, it's pretty obvious.
01:16:59.720
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like fairly good at everything.
01:17:03.440
And I think that comes together to be like what I am as a, you know, I think there's
01:17:07.880
some people that maybe I probably would have been maybe equally as good at, like, if I
01:17:12.380
And I think there's certain people that just have like a certain, like, just like a specific
01:17:17.500
star power that's so like important in this, where I think I'm maybe have like a high level
01:17:24.220
of that, but not like an exceptional level of that.
01:17:27.060
Probably more than your average person, but I don't think I have, you know, there's certain,
01:17:30.320
like even there's certain people on stage where you're like that person jokes have to
01:17:34.040
And that person's jokes can be worse and that he'll still do better.
01:17:41.720
I mean, I, I kind of think that's how I see myself.
01:17:45.640
But I think a lot of times, I think it's exciting for you to think about like getting in there
01:17:50.700
in New York and creating some new kind of energy.
01:17:55.240
Well, I think that this, the energy thing, in my opinion, is such a good way to look at
01:18:00.000
that question, because I think that, I think it's a, it's a, it's like a, maybe in my
01:18:09.000
Look at my, my wife just gave birth like six days ago.
01:18:32.960
You better not blow it with your fucking bullshit.
01:18:44.340
I think that's really fascinating how you look at yourself.
01:18:46.060
I happen to think you're brilliant and exceedingly talented because I have a video pulled up.
01:18:51.160
I'm not going to play it now, but I just want you guys to know, I still, to this day,
01:18:55.460
think this is the most brilliant thing I've ever seen.
01:18:59.480
It's just one of your, it's only one of your geniuses.
01:19:07.660
Yeah, he has a lot of good theories and he was kind of sort of talking about, you know,
01:19:11.280
there's certain, like, there's a, like, I might be, you know, if you're like in the,
01:19:17.820
you know, first percentile or 99, however you look at it, like, percentile of guys who
01:19:22.860
can make videos and then you're like one of the best at, you know, kind of understanding
01:19:26.840
culture and then you're one of the funniest people that all manifests to, you can do that
01:19:31.180
So you actually can be the best at something without being the best at one thing.
01:19:40.720
Well, that's where, can we talk about this video just so people know or just.
01:19:43.440
Well, I want to ask him first what he wants to do.
01:19:45.900
Well, I think that, I think that probably about 10 years ago, I realized that the, what
01:19:51.920
do you want to do question should be more for me as anyone nowadays, especially it should
01:19:59.060
be sort of like a direction, you know, what, where you want to go and what feels right.
01:20:03.140
But as soon as they start putting like things to that, I think you make bad decisions.
01:20:06.900
Like there was a point in my life where at like, all I wanted to do was do like a on the
01:20:13.760
So that's like all I want to do, I wanted to have my, like, you know, bigger than the
01:20:21.160
And then, but I was obsessed with that at a time when like TV was like not mattering.
01:20:28.100
Guys like me weren't even like in the conversation like that, where I was.
01:20:30.880
So you, you start like chaining yourselves to these like things that are just real world
01:20:43.760
He made some of the funniest shit in the world.
01:20:46.300
But Tom Green, Tom Green was the guy who started all of this.
01:20:53.460
I always promised to go on his show, but I never found it workable.
01:20:56.840
Yeah, I'm sure you and him would be great together.
01:21:00.360
So, but it's just like that, that type of satire.
01:21:02.560
I think I'm like, I really love that like version of satire.
01:21:07.960
Do you just get these crazy fucking ideas or do you, how does that, how does your process
01:21:21.000
I was going to say, what's the difference between American and Canadian audience?
01:21:29.800
Like, even if you think about America, like all the biggest people that did like men on the
01:21:33.120
street or kind of messing with people, they all aren't American.
01:21:35.840
Cause I don't think Americans do satire the same way.
01:21:38.580
So I think that art form, which will never be the biggest thing in the world, but I think
01:21:41.860
it's like, even like fake news shows, you know, like even the SNL news desk, Lauren Michaels
01:21:47.480
It's like, so all of the American versions of like satire kind of, they're not American,
01:21:57.000
I feel like sometimes people don't care about this cause Americans don't care about this topic,
01:22:00.580
but like I think about a lot of someone that moved here, but.
01:22:06.660
So if Americans do a joke, you kind of know their opinion.
01:22:09.200
If Americans use satire, whereas I think that opinion, that type of satire, you can't
01:22:16.560
Like you can't be like, I know what the guy who wrote this thought.
01:22:18.960
And I think that that's more of, uh, Americans have a more like importance, which the good
01:22:23.880
part of that, in my opinion, which I have a bit of too, and I like America for that reason.
01:22:27.080
It's like, that's why you create the greatest things.
01:22:28.840
Like you need a self importance and you need to think that you matter to do the greatest
01:22:33.500
I really think that America is going through that shit right now.
01:22:37.440
So I, that's why I want to come to New York and hang out because it's like trying to
01:22:43.520
create the new normal and you know, it has to come out of New York.
01:22:51.300
Because the new normal coming from the West coast on is fucking.
01:23:09.820
And then also that's like opportunistic is what it is.
01:23:14.280
It's like, we're okay with having homeless people shit on the streets.
01:23:18.240
It's that we're okay with having that in front of our fanciest hotels.
01:23:34.080
No, that's what I got in a war with that goddamn manager at that place where I broke my knee
01:23:39.880
and I had to live in San Francisco for three months.
01:23:45.880
I go get somebody to clean this shit up when I'm trying to get in my fucking, get my car.
01:23:53.880
I always think of that when like there's that notorious PAG song where he dedicates it to
01:23:57.340
all the, you know, the, the teachers that told him he couldn't do it and all that.
01:24:00.420
And then one of the things he's like, all the people that called the cops on me when
01:24:03.200
I was just trying to, when I was like selling crack inside their building.
01:24:09.880
I mean, if I, if I was doing, you know, I've been doing illegal stuff lots of times in my
01:24:15.220
You're like, you don't like it at the time, but a few days later, you're like, fair.
01:24:18.580
I was filming and causing shit at that Walmart.
01:24:28.260
It's like, well, break the law or uphold the law.
01:24:36.620
Well, I always think, you know, it's funny because I feel like we have to have
01:24:39.800
so many conversations about like, where do you stand politically or where are you on
01:24:44.840
But I think that no one ever talks about the fact that, but also you could have a different
01:24:48.580
thing that you want versus what would be better for the world.
01:24:54.240
Like, well, I moved to America because it's more free.
01:24:57.100
And you can, but that might, I might not think that they shouldn't have like a safety net
01:25:02.020
But like, so it's kind of like for everyone, it's like, what do I want?
01:25:07.920
And that doesn't always align with what would be the best for everyone.
01:25:10.360
And then you kind of try to find a medium between those, but we never separate those
01:25:20.700
That's why it's like a lot of times when people have like pirate lifestyles, like comedians,
01:25:23.960
like you're like, I think that we should be able to do this like crazy life.
01:25:27.340
You should be able to tell your parents, I'm going to go do this insane thing, you know,
01:25:32.940
So there's always, we never separate those two things of like, what's best for you versus
01:25:36.920
like, what's actually probably the best normal morals to have for like your average person.
01:25:44.360
When you turn 18, you get a free year of total freedom to go live amongst the English and
01:25:54.520
Yeah, and then a lot of them don't go back, right?
01:25:57.700
They have the option to go out and experience it.
01:25:59.320
And if they come back, then they're there for life.
01:26:00.860
And if they don't, it's like, if you lose the people that were too pirate for this lifestyle.
01:26:10.360
If you're going to go all the way communist, I'm sorry, but you can't be a Jew anymore
01:26:30.560
You're getting shipped out to the fucking Ukraine.
01:26:35.660
All you motherfucking Antifa BLM commie bastards that have been trained by the Obama and Bush
01:26:46.140
Y'all are just getting ready to get drafted to the Ukraine.
01:26:54.520
Congrats for voting Democrat, you stupid motherfuckers.
01:27:02.340
I want to make sure we plug before you leave because-
01:27:12.860
I said to Jimmy Carter, you're the only one I ever voted for.
01:27:18.740
I never voted for another president in my life.
01:27:25.380
Well, at the time, I liked that he kind of seemed like a simple man that had some ethics.
01:27:48.700
Yeah, he's building homes for fucking homeless people.
01:27:56.280
Well, I like that he told Americans, put on a sweater, turn the heater down.
01:27:59.580
You don't tell Americans to turn your thermostat down and put on a sweater.
01:28:02.660
You're in the wrong country, you fucking commie.
01:28:05.860
I say, blow up the whole fucking weather system.
01:28:14.380
I mean, what are you thinking of when you're watching all this shit on campus?
01:28:24.540
Yeah, there's definitely a whole faction of that protest that are like, they're getting
01:28:28.180
But I mean, I think of when you're watching this stuff, and if you look at culture for
01:28:34.520
the last six years, you just see how easy people are to be like, you think this now,
01:28:39.380
I mean, I kind of think of it myself where I'm like, you know, I've probably been with
01:28:44.820
girls where I'm like, I could have made this girl think anything.
01:28:48.220
Like, I could be fairly, you know, influential on people's thinking sometimes.
01:28:54.000
So I maybe, I try to look at things the way they are.
01:28:59.520
And if you go, okay, so if everyone's very influential, and these people are all kind of
01:29:03.220
just, you know, hearts and minds that can be shaped one way or the other, it's hard
01:29:09.840
So I understand the, the people, but I try not to, you're like, this is just a person,
01:29:16.000
you know, they could have went the other way too.
01:29:17.480
And that their hearts and minds got shaped in people.
01:29:20.900
If you're losing the hearts and minds battle, that sucks.
01:29:26.860
America has a free, like, like, even think about all the canceling stuff, right?
01:29:32.240
You know, we all, everyone wanted, you know, a lot of, there's a lot of people that wanted
01:29:36.920
the government to solve it and get involved in this, but like, in my opinion, the markets
01:29:44.160
And what happened was the industry went this really way it, it, it sort of, you know, started
01:29:50.160
All of these other industries emerged, all these comedians started podcasts, all these comedians
01:29:56.520
If you look right now, the 10 biggest, you know, comics or, you know, commentators, they all
01:30:05.120
Like in a lot of ways, I think we all still have, you know, and you obviously went through
01:30:08.060
like a huge thing that I think we all have, like, almost like, uh, you know, when you
01:30:12.480
were like beat, you have, uh, like, you know, someone that was like bit by a dog, you're
01:30:15.820
like a little scared of a dog, but it's like now, like, think about what happened with
01:30:18.720
like Huberman, like a month ago, like he got, you know, people were like the big expose
01:30:22.760
that he's, you know, got a roster of girls, which if anything makes him better at time
01:30:30.220
And I think that, well, cause what are you going to take away?
01:30:33.920
You lost the people doing that stuff, lost the hearts and minds.
01:30:37.460
So, I mean, it's up for you to be right and then have the free market and then get the
01:30:43.900
And I think that's what you put things so well.
01:30:47.780
Well, I, yeah, I, so I'm trying to be like optimistic too, cause I am sort of optimistic
01:30:51.520
that like when people are kind of like comedy get ruined, I'm like, comedy didn't get
01:30:57.880
Yeah. And what'd you think of Jerry Seinfeld going the left killed comedy?
01:31:02.320
I love Jerry Seinfeld going back on interviews and talking about comedy.
01:31:06.840
Cause him, there's certain guys like Jimmy Carr's like this, they're like these statesmen
01:31:11.340
of comedy that just think about comedy so much that I think it's when you're really
01:31:15.580
in it every day, like this is your whole life. I'm doing comedy. It's like you have less
01:31:19.180
little, I think you have a little less time to like pontificate over the, uh, the little
01:31:24.380
intricacies like you, you do more doing and less thinking about it, you know? But I think
01:31:29.120
that there's some of the people that they have really good at comedy opinions. So I actually
01:31:32.420
like that they're out there talking about them. Cause I like, I like listening to like
01:31:38.520
But what did you say? What did he do that you don't like? Or is there, are you talking
01:31:49.440
What did he say? He said, I've never seen a career destroyed in one tweet. That was his whole comment
01:31:53.680
on her cancellation. And now he's like, the left is ruined comedy. Well, fuck you. We've
01:31:57.260
been telling you this for years. You didn't stand up. Now he's acting like Johnny come
01:32:06.060
He's, I mean, he's the most like elitist smug upper West side New Yorker, right?
01:32:10.940
But that doesn't mean they're, you know, don't have like smart opinions about certain things.
01:32:17.120
The struggle to be Jewish for 3000 years. I thought that was very cool that he did that.
01:32:22.720
There's a lot of cool things about Seinfeld, but it's again, like, why are you coming? Like
01:32:25.880
to say now, I think, uh, leftists have ruined comedy. That's not edgy.
01:32:30.120
They all let me, they all let me swing by the nook.
01:32:33.020
Yeah. Fuck you. Where were you when we needed you?
01:32:37.780
When Iran attacks Israel, which was the subject of my tweet that I got fired for by anti-Semite
01:32:45.580
Disney and Sarah Gilbert. And, uh, what's her name that went to Epstein Island? What's
01:32:55.940
Allegedly. The manifest is, uh, there's arguments about whether.
01:33:00.080
She's on one of the internet manifests. We don't know if it's the legit manifest.
01:33:16.060
No, he makes a good point. Seinfeld backed Michael Richards, who actually said the N hard
01:33:23.680
That when, after he, I saw this the other day, I saw this the other day. Kramer went
01:33:28.840
on, I don't, it might've been like Fallon or Kramer.
01:33:46.120
So he went on a show to apologize and he was like real broken up by this.
01:33:54.920
And then he was like, maybe I shouldn't be doing this here.
01:33:58.020
And the audience kept laughing and no one knew what to do.
01:34:01.440
And the host was like, can everyone stop laughing?
01:34:18.240
You can't, you can't tell me you haven't seen this.
01:34:25.380
You really don't know the Michael Richards thing?
01:34:35.740
Were you there when he was doing his like standup before Seinfeld?
01:34:42.220
And he was on that show Fridays with Julia Louise Seinfeld.
01:34:46.300
And he made that movie that was like really cute.
01:34:50.180
But he would do this bit where he'd be like a weight trainer and the weights were going everywhere.
01:34:58.500
Anyways, he had like the original like biggest cancellation of all time, I would say.
01:35:06.920
I'm like my mind's blown right now that you don't know this one.
01:35:10.760
I do know it was a bunch of black kids taunting him.
01:35:29.260
Paul Mooney, the greatest comic that ever fucking lived.
01:35:39.880
I bet you people love the, like, inter-family squabbles between you on the podcast.
01:36:36.940
In his mind, he was doing, like, an edgy thing.
01:36:43.380
He's edgy as fuck, but the thing was, it was way over the people's heads.
01:36:55.760
Can we please promote your fucking YouTube channel?
01:37:00.620
So, I've been on tour for eight months, and I just...
01:37:05.060
Like, ten days a month, like, you know, being in New York for two, three days at a time.
01:37:16.020
I've been doing that for, like, eight months, and now I'm just going to go, like,
01:37:19.840
every day, just work on, like, videos and stand up and writing.
01:37:25.020
That's kind of where I'm getting to, where I know I have to do that same thing.
01:37:32.020
I had a week the other day, and I was, like, walking around, just, like, thinking, and
01:37:54.140
All I do is I think, and I go, what about this?
01:37:56.900
And then, at the end of the day, you're, like, all...
01:38:02.580
I go do three shows at night, and then I look over it all, and you're, like, oh, there's
01:38:14.320
But eight hours to come up with three things, the whole time, you feel like you're doing
01:38:30.220
It's when you're actually, like, hey, I'm writing for a week.
01:38:34.260
Yeah, but then you're, like, and I've got to turn in this script, and I have...
01:38:40.940
Yeah, that always happens to me, and I go, berserk and blow up.
01:38:46.020
Deadlines are definitely the, like, can be the...
01:38:49.140
They can be the killer of creativity, for sure.
01:39:01.300
I did that because I thought I could get there faster.
01:39:14.480
Isn't it great, though, that we're living in a time where we can at least attempt to be
01:39:21.200
artistically free and say what we really think and feel?
01:39:27.880
I was thinking about that when I was walking home two nights ago, that I was just like,
01:39:34.260
I'm happier that I'm doing this now than 15 years ago.
01:39:44.440
The internet made it so the industry can't lie about who's the best.
01:39:49.860
You know, the people pick, but the people will pick bad people and, you know, that's
01:39:53.580
There's always going to be bad people that are, you know, at the top.
01:39:57.580
There's always going to be people that beat the system, but they can't keep someone out
01:40:22.000
I know your old life was, you know, the top, the top, the top.
01:40:26.680
But I've seen you come to a festival of the, you know, 500 of the top comedians in the world.
01:40:34.860
Like, you walk into a venue and it's like, oh my God.
01:40:38.260
And these are the people that make the culture, you know?
01:40:41.780
These are the people that make the culture, not those people that maybe are holding you
01:40:46.160
But I think the people that make the culture...
01:40:48.080
I've watched when you walk in a room and it's like a big deal and everyone's like pumped
01:40:51.700
And so, in that sense, the people that you're talking about, in my opinion, I could care
01:41:05.600
I just worry for the young people being used and abused and gaslighted.
01:41:13.160
Like you said, well, it's not even their own fault because they've just been so brutalized.
01:41:19.400
You know what the purpose of comedians in my...
01:41:22.780
People talk a lot about what's the purpose of comedy, right?
01:41:27.300
So, in the stock market, people go, what's the purpose of day traders?
01:41:32.320
And people say they're just rent seekers and there's no purpose, right?
01:41:37.040
Like, if it's priced too high, well, people sell it and then they find the price.
01:41:41.720
And I think the comedians, a lot of times, the purpose is to find...
01:41:49.500
The purpose of the comedians is to find the truth.
01:41:52.000
Like, you know, a lot of times in life, someone will be like, this guy...
01:41:55.440
Someone's average and someone will be like, he's amazing.
01:42:03.760
Like, the purpose of the comedian is to find the right values.
01:42:08.520
I love that because you're talking about an actual value for value system, which is
01:42:19.640
So I think when everyone's saying this is how it is and you're like, no, you guys are
01:42:26.180
And the people that are good at this say, no, everyone's wrong about this.
01:42:32.720
And I think that, I think that's, you could, we feel like we've watched that happen a little
01:42:39.100
So whether it be like something small, like, you know, Kim Kardashian's the worst.
01:42:44.300
And then there's a while where everyone's saying, oh, this, and then everyone, then
01:42:47.540
the comedy instincts are like, she's not as bad as that.
01:42:50.840
Do you think it's true that she forced Justin Bieber to have sex with her?
01:43:04.200
It goes right back to Diddy and Drake and this whole thing that's going on.
01:43:08.800
It was Usher that forced Bieber to have sex with her.
01:43:10.360
I mean, for real, it does go back for real, for real.
01:43:13.260
It was Usher, by the way, that had forced Bieber to have sex with her.
01:43:36.620
I know everything about the big, fat, 260-pound lesbian mentoring.
01:43:41.480
Does the lesbian mentoring also involve you having to go to her bed?
01:43:49.460
How do you think Oprah got, how do you think Gail got a TV show?
01:43:53.740
You think Oprah, a lesbian, slept her way to the top?
01:44:11.100
Oh, you're saying she heterosexually slept her way to the top?
01:44:18.640
She actually made it, and then she raped women.
01:44:26.140
And when they found out my show had a higher percentage of working class black audience,
01:44:32.880
where she had the upper middle class white girl audience, she was furious.
01:44:47.140
All the black socialists knew it, but they all pussed out like they always would to Jesse
01:45:03.940
Al Roker probably is the head of the Muslim Brotherhood, now that I think about it.
01:45:07.320
Al Roker is the head of the Muslim Brotherhood.
01:45:11.540
But I mean, it couldn't be more fucking obvious what they put my ass through, girl, boy, honey,
01:45:26.100
But I mean, you're right, especially at that level.
01:45:33.800
Well, you know what they hate more than that is someone they can't get rid of.
01:45:44.420
They keep thinking they've canceled you and you keep showing up.
01:45:47.260
They keep trying to shut me up, but it never does work.
01:45:48.180
Yeah, that's what they hate the most is when it doesn't work.
01:45:58.360
They did pretty much kill me by killing my character and my show.
01:46:03.120
Everybody comes here week and again because they're full of shit.
01:46:05.880
I think it's that we have the – you have the –
01:46:08.100
You know that chess thing where like when people are –
01:46:12.700
the biggest mistake people make in chess is your opponent gets an advantage
01:46:16.820
and you keep playing like you still have the advantage because you had it before?
01:46:20.640
I think a lot of times you still play like the games like it was there,
01:46:30.400
I'm not saying – yeah, I'm not like accusing you of having that situation.
01:46:35.980
She still thinks it's like this old world model and the cancellation stuff.
01:46:38.520
Who's the biggest like people right now in your opinion?
01:46:41.760
Like who would be the biggest like powerful comedians in the world?
01:46:48.000
You know, I just know who I like and I don't know a lot.
01:46:54.420
But name like – who's the person that's like the biggest right now that like the industries made it?
01:47:10.640
Well, yeah, but I mean he's not anybody that people would say – people would – if they said that, even if they mean it or not, it sounds old.
01:47:25.440
Well, there's different classes of comedians, right?
01:47:32.820
He's definitely – you know, the benefit of being a legend is –
01:47:35.640
I'll tell you what, Dave Chappelle is a legend, but I have to say the following.
01:47:47.900
Well, plus Richard Pryor, plus Paul Mooney, I mean –
01:47:56.120
Oh, I always think of Robin Harris here in Texas.
01:47:58.100
He would be making a million dollars per show right now when he's going, the electric chair, fuck that.
01:48:07.080
For me, I think it goes Bernie Mac second, hamburgers first.
01:48:25.060
Drake, do you know why they're coming to Drake?
01:48:33.080
But I'll tell you what, that is why Drake will come back strong.
01:48:39.660
Watch your mouth when you talk about the six like that.
01:48:47.860
You don't get in the rap game until you get right by a ditty.
01:48:52.040
I don't think a pedophile is a 14, 15-year-old child.
01:49:00.780
I think by definition it's prepubescent as pedophile, so usually 12.
01:49:06.400
This guy's like the media throwing out the pedophile accusation real quick.
01:49:09.320
I don't have a problem with it because I know I'm right.
01:49:17.700
like how people look at politics like a sports team where it doesn't matter.
01:49:26.240
To get in the rap game, she never lets me talk.
01:49:33.820
If you're in the rap game, just like Hollywood, there are certain things you have to –
01:49:38.080
But I don't know why they're coming after Drake just because he's a Jew.
01:49:43.680
I'm telling you what, with this Palestine whole issue.
01:49:52.420
I promise you this isn't helping his street cred.
01:49:55.140
No, Drake, you've got to do it for the Jews, Drake.
01:49:59.420
You've got to come back and say what you know you've got to say.
01:50:01.440
It's only because he's a Jew you're defending him.
01:50:06.200
Many Jews have a smaller penis, which drives them to do immortal things, and it's not good.
01:50:12.940
I'm just saying, to get into hip-hop, you have to be jumped in, and jumped in is to be raped.
01:50:21.520
You've got to get F'd in the A to get in the club.
01:50:27.980
It's the same with the Freemasons and the Jesuits.
01:50:50.200
Anybody who has an initial as their first name is a pedo.
01:51:41.560
To act like that only happened on Epstein Island is naive.
01:52:02.120
I mean, I'm telling you, all these Babylonian motherfuckers,
01:52:14.900
No, but a crazy story is one of my closest friends growing up
01:52:38.060
One of my closest friends, like in our little squad of six people,
01:52:40.980
his brother went on to be a rap producer and he made-
01:52:55.220
his brother is Drake's producer on like tons of these songs.
01:53:05.940
He just likes them young like, you know, some of them do.
01:53:13.060
He is, but being a great rapper is like being a great juggler.
01:53:21.920
I'll just go right now and have sex with Drake.
01:53:24.600
because you said you don't have sexual feelings,
01:53:37.960
I know there are rappers that they're not funny.
01:54:07.960
His shit was brilliant, how he took it to Drake.
01:54:20.320
I thought it was brilliant pros, but I thought it was all for setting up Drake to come back
01:54:28.740
because he is a Jew, and he's like, you know, they don't like the Jews, but Drake is going
01:54:37.040
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good of a husband and father i don't know if that's true but how do you know as i can tell
01:55:13.900
on the video you guys know rap feuds are bullshit like marketing some some white jewish girl in a
01:55:18.800
marketing job is like you guys need to fight for three months they do a contract it's like a
01:55:22.360
fucking uh what's his name marriage when you call a guy a pedophile leonardo dicaprio relationship
01:55:27.660
it's a contract well i know more than this than you guys called drake a pedophile he is a pedophile
01:55:33.820
good for kendra pedophile isn't 16 and 15 you think the whole thing's fake i think every rap is 9 10 11
01:55:42.140
and 12 it's 12 and below it's prepubescent and below but it's still from puberty till 18 it's
01:55:49.500
like joe biden with the babies that's a pedophile when joe biden goes up and like bites children
01:55:55.840
have you seen him bite babies he tries to gum the baby's cheeks yeah it's not good he likes the
01:56:03.200
taste and smell the babies have you seen that yeah obviously there's compilations of like 20 of
01:56:08.720
them in a row they've been pulled a lot of a lot of them been pulled off the internet which is the
01:56:11.880
scariest fucking thing remember when he told that one girl he's like i wish i were 13 can't find that
01:56:16.800
anywhere do you think drake's can't repeat it is that what you're kind of proposing what i'm trying
01:56:20.080
to say i'm sure they're all involved what i'm just saying yeah what's your perspective on this
01:56:26.040
whole thing i'm sure you have to ask rap no because because he real recognizes real rap is
01:56:32.840
not i hate it's gonna make people mad it's not really that hard it's like juggling now there's
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good rappers and bad rappers it's wrestling but hold on it's not it's not singing it's not playing
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an instrument you're great things yeah no there are good singers that rap i'm just saying rap in
01:56:48.840
itself is a real if people hustle to get in there go oh this is an easy shit i can make a lot of money i
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don't even have to be talented all married they don't even rap i mean they don't even run a lot
01:56:57.320
of them don't run nice jewish boy so anyway ryan to answer your question if i could get a sentence
01:57:01.840
out is that the rap game is a hustle game there's things you have to do to get in which is be raped
01:57:07.540
on tape pretty much and to get to the top it's a marketing and then the the fucking rapper fights
01:57:14.560
that's all some jewish girl that's like you need to fight with him for three months and that's how you
01:57:18.080
get up there it's it's for people that aren't talented enough to sing the lesbian publicist
01:57:22.560
thank you control hollywood that's what it's about and holly acting is a talent rap is not
01:57:31.300
well all right well that's my you made it less fun but
01:57:36.380
i'm just saying why are we out here for the eye from drake's song came out
01:57:41.260
why is rap a part of music we're all like yo new song came out let's watch this it's like you
01:57:48.100
do you want to watch it let's watch drake let's watch we will but ryan needs to go and we need to
01:57:54.080
promote his page we haven't done it yet please promote your fucking page i'm gonna ask you to
01:57:57.700
but you know what i remember the last time you brought that up is when i said i finished my tour
01:58:01.340
but so i'm not i'm i'm kind of not promoting anything but i do a podcast every friday which
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is called the boys cast and we do a sketch at the beginning of everything and i do videos at
01:58:10.020
youtube.com slash ryan long comedy and i release like a video every week and uh or sometimes more
01:58:15.100
this one i showed had nine million views i just went to the trump i just did one where i went to
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the trump uh trial and that was pretty funny i missed the guy who lit himself on fire by one
01:58:22.280
day damn that would have been so good wild that would have been the best interview i want to do
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a video with you would you have been i want to go like to the guy that sets himself on fire and go
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just pour gas on him squeeze a gas bottle on his hand well it's funny that guy was like his if you
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read his thing it wasn't even that aggressive like the original guy was like you know for uh
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to protest like vietnam or whatever wasn't it and then and then the second guy was like the
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palestine the third guy was like crypto the next guy is going to be like because arby's is closing
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earlier like the things that people are lighting some on fire these days doesn't take much it's true
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i wish more people would do it because i really think it helps
01:59:06.800
it really helps the palestinians that's true do more the babies of the world it's common now there's
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like three guys in the last month did you see that guy when he started on fire like you wonder what
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they're thinking they must be on so many fentanyls oh that's an interesting thing do they take a lot
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of fucking pills before antidepressants right they're on a lot of because he was just sitting
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here like this he's on fire how would you not be screaming but then at the end his face goes like
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this oh right at the very end so he's like on fentanyls or something wild because why would you do
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that i mean it don't make any sense that you'd set yourself on fire i read the latest one and it
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was seemed kind of like didn't make it seemed like a little bit of like i've seen friends that are
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like you're starting to fucking really get like uh schizo it kind of felt like that type of stuff
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no you you're definitely mentally ill if you're lighting yourself on fire there's no cause where
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you read it and you go oh maybe back in the day well then that guy that didn't want to go to
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vietnam light himself on fire that was pretty cool i mean the warm ones those are the good old days
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yeah that was actually after all these cambodian uh that was cool set themselves on fire in
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cambodian vietnam and they just sat there like this because it's a a kind of a communist mind
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lighting yourself on fire i had more i mean you know who really was good at setting themselves on
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comedy is kind of self-immolation you think you just put stuff online so everyone could tell you
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you know shit talk you yeah do you think comedy is a calling from god no i like that i don't know
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please do you think it's a mental illness i'm not religious okay but do you think it's i think there's
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different ways that people do it and if you did comedy in any scene starting out i think it's hard
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to argue that mental illness is not a big part of that scene uh but there's different reasons that
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people do it i think you know um but like i mean there is part of it that's like just a you know
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certain people where it was very not no like a natural progression for them i think uh for some
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people there's something more inside of you that you're like i need to do this and i think that i mean
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there's got to be something a little unwell about like i just anyone who's like everyone needs to hear
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what i have to say you know but i think there's a craft i try to i think there's the other part of
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it where you just look at like a craft like some people are like craftsmen like you're just like
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it's like a job you're just like wake up write your stuff do it go do three things like it's not
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glamorous in that sense right it's almost like working like it's almost like it's just a job you
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know so it doesn't have to be glamorous in that sense i don't know you know taking the subway to
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calling from god i don't think well what's your reason for do for making a fool of yourself for no
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reason bill burr had a had a i love him he had a good kind of point that i think was like a version
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of how i think of it is a lot of people talking i think it's true that you kind of look at like how
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know where am i the most useful and everyone's different and i do think like the collection of
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skills and things i have i actually do think this might be the best thing in the world that i'd be
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the best at so then i feel like a lot of times i'm like i'm probably the best suited to be doing this
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so for me i think that's why so i don't think that's a calling from god i think that's a calling
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from like who i am as a person which i guess you could say is from god but i think that's fate
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no i think that everyone has to find it you know for you is it fate no i don't i don't think so
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because i think a lot of people don't find it and a lot of people don't necessarily have one you know
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it doesn't it doesn't always exist but there are certain people where it's like how many you know
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some people the talents might be misplaced in the belly though well you got the fire in the belly for
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saying the truth as you see it though i think so but or and you might be right or maybe i have the fire
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in the belly for being the best and what i've chosen to be the best at is saying the truth
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so maybe my fire comes from like a pursuit of greatness and i happen to be pursuing truth
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as that thing well you can juxtapose like a motherfucker you think i'm like dodging it
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no i think you're i think you get it no i think you're really deep you juxtapose it like a
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we think you're really deep so much for being oh yeah you're the best i'm honestly i'm not i'm not
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kidding i i think that one of the coolest things in being in this industry and stuff is the times
02:09:10.460
that we like hung out it's very cool i want to come to new york and work i'm i'm serious good you
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should well Dave Chappelle does that he comes for like two weeks and just does like five yeah a lot
02:09:21.080
of people that kind of live somewhere random you know it seems like very often especially if there's
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someone like you that has like status they come to new york and kind of you know fuck around like
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and they really you know you can find clubs that'll be like whatever you want however long you want to
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do i'm sure you've tons of places would do that you know that's what i'm gonna do because i want my
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new 20 because i have a new i got a new come do that twice a night for two weeks i'm sure you do
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that in austin too but i want to go to new york yeah go do it go to the cellar go to the stand
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you should do all of it mom there's a talk about a vegas resident like i'm gonna do 20 minutes a
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night twice a night i want to go to the microphone i know they got good shit in the bronx too right
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i don't cross i don't cross 30th street elitist people are telling me to do that but anyway long
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live comedy oh yeah yeah of course that'd be awesome i think it'd be you'd love that and then
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you know do it every few months yeah it'd be awesome ryan i want to say thank you so much we've
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been trying to get you on this fucking show for almost a year i know i'm sorry that i got sick
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but oh no don't be sorry it's been we've been moving and traveling but feeling better i think
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you're brilliant and i think you're we love you so much thanks guys no i love hanging out with you
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guys so appreciate it we'll come back or we'll go to new york or we'll come to you she keeps trying
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to ditch me will you take my mom new york and i'll stay here with my baby i think she'd have more
02:10:40.560
fun with you than i want to get it that's why just take her you're her handler i am but could you be
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her handler i need a break he's my elder abuser i want to get an airbnb in new york you should go
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no the cellar was cool as shit i'd go see plays and such you know we were just there well you know
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no we'll go dude i keep trying to fucking tell you this you can do whatever the fuck you want you
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have the means you have the time you can do whatever you want you just have to get you have
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to put the q videos down off your laptop and go outside that's all you have to do is get off the
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q videos and go outside just when they're happening drip drip all right uh close this up he's he does
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have to go no i'm i'm in a big area but yeah that's fine love you love you love you tell hannah
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