The Shadoe Davis Show - August 27, 2024


Aug. 26th⧸2024- Guest: Common Sense Pickering, ON city councilor Lisa Robinson


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00:04:29.980 Welcome to Shadow at Night. This is Monday, August 26, 2024. On the show tonight, Pickering City
00:04:36.560 Councilor Lisa Robinson, who has, well, she's been through a lot these last couple of years
00:04:41.860 since she's been elected. She's going to tell us all about it tonight. But she gave an absolutely
00:04:46.080 blistering speech in Ottawa, I believe it was last week. We'll have her tell us more about that. I'm
00:04:50.780 going to play a couple of minutes of it for you. I played it twice last week. I was absolutely
00:04:55.480 enthralled and excited about it because it comes from her heart and it's something we need to hear
00:05:00.880 from politicians of all stripes at any level all across our country so we're going to play that
00:05:06.680 speech at least a little bit of it and then we'll bring you the real thing counselor lisa robinson
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00:06:42.960 linda watching in durham ontario marge is watching in gull lake alberta and steven is watching in
00:06:48.880 belleville among the many other folks who are here with us live tonight if you are watching on
00:06:53.200 facebook or x or youtube or twitch or what else rumble telegram by the way pavel durov who is
00:07:03.120 the founder of telegram was arrested and charged with 12 counts of something or other in france
00:07:09.120 this past weekend just about a day and a half ago we've got that story coming up a little bit later
00:07:13.420 on in the show tonight in the extension for the all-access members at shadowdavis.com i find it
00:07:19.040 absolutely amazing that these world leaders these let's call them what they are they are neo-marxists
00:07:26.620 and they're arresting people based upon the fact that they're defending free speech which is
00:07:33.620 absolutely criminal in and of itself and i think that's probably one of the messages that lisa
00:07:38.980 was trying to get up with her speech last weekend you know what let's i stopped it at such a great
00:07:45.380 spot here in the speech so let's bring it up and you guys go ahead and watch this in case you missed
00:07:50.500 it last wednesday and thursday i played the whole thing wednesday and part of it on thursday uh
00:07:56.020 watch this we deserve better we deserve leaders who are willing to fight for the common good
00:08:03.140 who are guided by common sense and who understand the struggles and the
00:08:10.820 hopes of the everyday common people. I'm here today not just as a politician
00:08:18.200 but as one of you. A member of this community who knows what it's like to
00:08:23.900 worry about paying the bills, finding a safe place for her child to play and
00:08:30.200 making sure that there is enough food on the table I know the frustration of 0.99
00:08:36.980 seeing our tax dollars wasted on projects that benefit a few while their
00:08:41.240 schools hospitals and public services have to suffer but I also know the
00:08:47.320 strength and resilience of this community I've seen it in our neighbors
00:08:51.980 helping neighbors and our local businesses lifting up each other and in
00:08:56.720 the voices that refuse to be silenced in the face of injustice.
00:09:02.720 And no matter our differences, we are united under one banner, the Canadian flag.
00:09:12.940 So that, you know, watching that for the very first time, I became emotional and I know
00:09:21.460 a lot of you did.
00:09:22.460 Lisa is here with us right now.
00:09:23.800 Lisa, that speech was absolutely amazing.
00:09:26.640 you tell us a little bit about that like why you delivered that was that for a press gallery or
00:09:31.440 was that for a gathering of some of your constituents how did that go down exactly
00:09:35.420 you're on mute by the way just so you know we got to turn your microphone on
00:09:42.680 there we go can you hear me okay gotcha gotcha great hello hello hello hello welcome to the show
00:09:50.720 Thank you so much. Yeah. Um, that speech that I gave, no, it was actually over at CPAC. Um,
00:09:57.660 I was at, uh, I was in Ottawa for the AMO convention, which is the association of
00:10:04.180 municipals, Ontario. And, um, I thought that would be a great use of my time would be to
00:10:11.040 go over and, uh, you know, deliver a speech up from CPAC. So I wrote the speech and, uh,
00:10:17.240 I decided to go ahead and give that to the people.
00:10:21.960 It was on short notice, but it was something that I felt that I had to do
00:10:28.540 because of everything that has been happening around the world and in politics,
00:10:32.280 and especially here in Pickering at the time.
00:10:35.100 And you said that you felt emotion while I was reading that speech.
00:10:40.260 I, too, had a lot of emotion.
00:10:41.860 At the very beginning, I had stuttered for a second because I was going to start crying.
00:10:47.240 And then at the end as well, because I do feel very, very passionate about what it is that I say and what's happening.
00:10:54.840 You have been beaten up relentlessly in the past couple of years since you were first elected.
00:11:01.500 Did people know who you were when you were running, when you were campaigning for the job of city councillor?
00:11:07.880 And did the other councillors and the mayor know exactly what you stood for?
00:11:12.920 Oh, yeah. Everybody knew exactly what I was standing for.
00:11:15.800 absolutely no question because i mean i did actually run in an election another election
00:11:21.380 with the ontario party who is all about faith freedom friends you know faith and um i ran
00:11:29.400 with that party so everybody knew exactly who i was what i was about um going and knocking on
00:11:34.880 doors i knocked on thousands of doors so you know everybody knew exactly what i was about
00:11:39.680 yeah no question you're basically a far right extreme knuckle dragger then according to the
00:11:45.960 media well according to the media um just a second here one second is that tarzan you've got there
00:11:55.100 what's that you got tarzan in the background i have a son who has headphones on and uh he's
00:12:05.860 online playing with his friends so you might hear a couple of little outbursts like that yes
00:12:10.640 so like somebody was swinging from a bike right so yes so no everybody knew exactly who I was
00:12:19.820 when I was out there knocking on doors um I was quite open and honest about you know not being
00:12:26.700 your typical politician and like you know fighting for what is right but I mean you said the words
00:12:31.620 far right. And I don't think I'm far right at all. I don't think I'm alt right. Like, you know,
00:12:37.120 these are just, you know, gaslighting terms that, you know, other people have started saying to try
00:12:43.340 and stop people from speaking or, you know, making them afraid to speak out because we are going to
00:12:48.580 be called like names like that, plus, you know, racist, transphobic, homophobic, like, you know,
00:12:54.360 any words that they can throw at you. I am a true conservative through and through. And I just think
00:13:00.600 that the pendulum has just swung so far in the opposite direction it seems like we're far right
00:13:06.720 but i'm not i'm just like maybe just a little bit right of center because i am just a true
00:13:12.320 conservative with conservative news yeah you know it's interesting everybody watching this right now
00:13:18.640 is exactly in the same boat right so we totally understand everything that you've been facing
00:13:24.560 you've been facing it on a very public level though and you've received a lot of uh
00:13:31.760 let's just call it what it is abuse from the mayor of your city and from the other counselors
00:13:36.960 you know i've got a photo of the entire council of the city of pickering here i want to bring up
00:13:42.480 and show people and i was amazed because after reading the stories and hearing about the abuse 0.58
00:13:48.560 that you faced at the hands of these people i thought i was going to see a bunch of wokey
00:13:55.360 trans looking people on the council here there's your mayor kevin ash uh counselor maurice brenner
00:14:01.600 he doesn't look like your typical uh wokey does he maybe counselor linda cook does a little bit but
00:14:08.560 david pickles doesn't there's you there's lisa counselor mara nagy maybe a little bit of a woke
00:14:15.360 and Councillor Shaheen Butt doesn't look woke at all.
00:14:18.360 And yet, it's pretty much them against you all the time, isn't it?
00:14:23.300 Well, you know, you just can't go by looking at their photos there
00:14:26.800 because, like, we were to dress a certain way
00:14:29.300 because that is our council photos, right?
00:14:33.120 Normally, you know, Mara and Aggie will come to council meetings,
00:14:37.740 like, you know, pink hair, purple hair, green hair, blue hair,
00:14:40.520 whatever color hair it is of the month, you know,
00:14:43.440 with the earrings and the noses and, you know, Linda also, you know,
00:14:48.420 Maranaghi also seems to, well, she has made the comments like, you know,
00:14:53.520 that roads are racist. And you know what?
00:14:56.740 Linda has also said that her coffee maker is non-binary and not to mention,
00:15:01.840 you know, both of the other girls on council with me, you know,
00:15:04.700 they just, the flags that they have on their doors is like, you know,
00:15:08.800 they put the flag, the pride flag on their doors,
00:15:11.820 whereas mine has the the canadian flag on my door so that there enough should tell you yes they are
00:15:18.380 lisa when they're running for positions like counselor or school trustee or whatever election
00:15:27.720 happens to be going on these kinds of people the ones with the nose rings and the colored hair and
00:15:32.560 all of that stuff do they run based on their beliefs or do they try and hide that from the
00:15:38.780 people whose doors they're knocking on oh no they definitely hide their their beliefs yes no they
00:15:46.180 ran the same kind of campaign that i did you know saying like you know they're for the environment
00:15:52.160 they're against like you know a lot of building and you know against developers you know um it
00:16:00.360 was a lot of the same things uh that i ran for they were also saying but then you know it was a
00:16:06.120 big turn of events once they get on to council right because all of a sudden you know you have
00:16:12.900 people you have career politicians let's say mentoring them and when you have situations
00:16:19.640 like that you're now being groomed to think a certain way act a certain way when I first became
00:16:26.760 a counselor one of the first things they said to me was like you know okay Lisa now you've won the
00:16:30.820 election keep your head down because they know that I'm controversial they're like keep your
00:16:35.820 head down and start thinking about you know your re-election in four years and of course
00:16:41.900 wait a minute hold on who who said that to you councillor brenner and the other councillors yeah
00:16:48.000 so that's all they care about they care about just getting re-elected they don't really care
00:16:52.600 too much about what they're supposed to be doing which is serving the people that that's exactly it
00:16:58.280 that is exactly it and you know what you know you see it you see it in a lot i mean people say that
00:17:04.620 politicians lie and I mean they're exactly right they do because when you are knocking on the
00:17:09.000 doors for the campaign you could say one thing at one house and if the the neighbor says something
00:17:14.680 completely different usually that politician is going to be like oh yeah you're right you know
00:17:19.020 I'm I side with you on that as well so I mean they're constantly lying to the people I myself
00:17:23.880 have always said that I would stay true to to what I believe and to what I say and I mean that is what
00:17:29.940 i have done no matter what one of the first conversations i ever had with the cao um when i
00:17:36.040 walked in there i said you know i said as an outsider looking in it seems to me like the city
00:17:43.660 of pickering cares more about the developers than they do the people and the response i got from the
00:17:48.860 cao which is our chief administrator officer for those who don't know what a cao is um it was with
00:17:55.420 all due respect, Councillor Robinson, you are no longer an outsider looking in. So it was like,
00:18:01.960 hmm, that's what you took out of everything I just said, is that I'm no longer an outsider
00:18:06.940 looking in. So then I rephrased my question. And I said, okay, well, let me rephrase that.
00:18:13.220 As a newly elected official, it seems to me that the city of Pickering cares more about
00:18:20.640 developers and they do actually the people and of course then i got crickets so i mean that there
00:18:26.800 tells you right there how much power because this is something i've been talking about a lot lately
00:18:33.220 especially in my area of the country which is winnipeg manitoba we've been fighting this
00:18:37.760 complete city plan that they've been trying to bring in under the cover of darkness it seems
00:18:42.320 like just in the past month all of a sudden this new plan came out of the middle of nowhere and
00:18:46.360 want it implemented by january 1st of next year and so people are quite rightly freaking out
00:18:51.480 wanting to know what's in it and of course it's all of the un mumbo jumbo agenda 2030 stuff
00:18:56.680 sustainability diversity climate change and all of that nonsense and the caos of many of the
00:19:04.680 communities because this encompasses 18 municipalities and the city of winnipeg
00:19:09.720 many of the ceos have been the ones doing the talking on behalf of these municipalities
00:19:14.760 and these cities and towns around the city how much power do these appointed or sorry hired
00:19:22.120 officials have exactly oh the caos have so much power i mean it's them and the mayors
00:19:28.360 right that's that's exactly what it is and it's crazy because ever since i became a politician
00:19:36.440 We've been relinquishing our powers little by little more to the CAO to, you know, be able to take over, you know, more of the financing,
00:19:47.920 to be able to just start spending money without having to come to council and approve it.
00:19:56.660 And it's just, it's insane what's happening right now.
00:20:00.720 They keep on bringing these reports.
00:20:02.400 Like, for example, they brought reports to the city of Pickering saying a few things to stifle people's voices.
00:20:12.280 And a couple of them were, was that delegates used to be able to speak for 10 minutes if they came to our council chambers.
00:20:21.400 That has been now dropped down to five minutes.
00:20:24.700 Then they also decided to get rid of the prayer that we used to speak before every council meeting.
00:20:30.660 And that was just based on a couple of emails.
00:20:32.960 When I say a couple of emails, I mean a couple of emails.
00:20:36.700 That's all it took.
00:20:38.140 And they were basically almost two years ago, like 20 and 21.
00:20:42.680 And then what they decided to do was they decided that they were going to get rid of recordings in our chambers.
00:20:48.780 So no longer in our public chambers is anyone allowed to record.
00:20:54.160 and I find that very very concerning because going through some of the videos with some other people
00:21:00.220 that I know who have been playing paying very very close attention we've been seeing time jumps in
00:21:06.180 the videos that have been posted online we've been seeing a lot of white noise that has been posted
00:21:11.420 online and we also have been seeing what seems to be noise manipulation in some of the videos
00:21:19.040 also on top of that also happening they no longer allow any member of the press into our council
00:21:27.400 meetings as well unless we have a mover and a seconder to say it's okay for them to stay
00:21:34.160 and then even after that you have to have two-thirds of a vote to actually let the press
00:21:41.020 stay so if you don't like the press so let's say you know it's somebody who thinks a little bit
00:21:46.380 right of center, let's say, well, they're not going to allow them to come in and record our
00:21:53.720 meetings. On top of that, because I have been quite controversial, there has been a lot of
00:22:02.240 people speaking out. And sometimes there are people that don't live in Pickering, but they
00:22:07.500 live in Durham. Now, on our Pickering Council, we do have four members of our council, that's
00:22:13.380 including the mayor, who actually sit at the region level as well, and the region would
00:22:19.400 encompass Durham. So we have Durham residents coming to speak at our chambers. Well, they didn't
00:22:24.120 like it because there's been an uproar in the community that don't like all the draconian
00:22:31.180 measures that are taking place. So of course, they want to stifle the voices. So now they've
00:22:36.080 made a rule that nobody from outside of Pickering can come and delegate at our council meetings
00:22:42.460 either unless, of course, they get a two-thirds vote, which is not going to happen. And then for
00:22:48.020 our very own Pickering residents, if they want to come and speak to something that is not on the
00:22:53.920 agenda, before that was no problem as long as they gave 10 days notice. Now, they're not even allowed
00:23:01.120 to come and speak to anything that is not on the agenda, notice or not, unless, of course, they get
00:23:06.480 a mover, a seconder. They have to tell the clerk's office exactly what it is that they want to speak
00:23:12.320 about and then the councillors will decide on whether or not that person can come and speak
00:23:19.380 it's it's it's absolutely draconian measures that are happening over here it's like a little
00:23:25.240 mini dictatorship alicia have these rules been just taken arbitrarily by the mayor and and the
00:23:31.240 majority of council just like that just they decide oh what no more media and they just make
00:23:36.140 it up as they go along yeah absolutely over the last six months or so or even less than that
00:23:41.060 probably about the last six months every meeting that we have it just seems to be more rules are
00:23:46.480 being enforced like this and also there's a new trespass bylaw which I like to call the hurt
00:23:53.960 feelings bylaw because if somebody says something on let's say social media that the mayor or a
00:24:02.100 council or staff doesn't like they will actually trespass you from coming on city property
00:24:08.140 and that's all city property that means like you know use of the parks the libraries you know the
00:24:14.900 recreation center like not just city council property right city hall about these audio
00:24:21.840 manipulations you were talking about a couple of minutes ago do they always seem to favor
00:24:26.220 one side of the argument i would think so because a lot of the white noise is when i start get
00:24:34.120 getting up and speaking about these really tough questions like you know where's all the money
00:24:39.500 being spent when I'm talking about millions and millions of taxpayers dollars and all of a sudden
00:24:45.960 there's white noise and normally they're supposed to pick that up right away and they would put a
00:24:50.520 pause on the meeting take a recess until they fix it but they let it go right through my whole
00:24:55.640 entire speech about four or five minutes of white noise so nobody will ever know what it is that I
00:25:01.360 had to speak about unless they were sitting there in chambers that day and the ones that were they're
00:25:05.820 completely disgusted at what happened are you seeing more and more people from the community
00:25:11.540 turning up at meetings special meetings regular meetings well that's exactly it and that's why
00:25:17.560 they're stifling the voices right that's exactly what they're doing so they don't want people to
00:25:23.520 speak at the meetings they also stop question and answer period as well with another rule that they
00:25:28.840 enforced now i think it was back in june last year we we opened up question and answer period
00:25:35.080 so before a council meeting we used the first 15 minutes that if anybody had a question they could
00:25:40.800 ask a question of the mayor and if the mayor couldn't find the answer then he would delegate
00:25:44.260 it to a member staff or whomever he chose well it wasn't being utilized because like you know
00:25:50.080 after that june we had our summer vacation that it was christmas you know it wasn't really getting
00:25:55.820 utilized and then a few months ago about 20 people showed up and they wanted to ask questions of the
00:26:02.020 mayor and what did they do they decided to bring a quick motion to have um to have a motion brought
00:26:11.940 to the beginning of the meeting to stop question and answer period from ever happening again
00:26:18.800 under the guise that it had never been used but if it had never been used before then why did we
00:26:25.320 have to get rid of it because that means it wasn't taking up any more time it was just sitting there
00:26:30.220 not being used but they did that when there were over 20 people in the council chambers who wanted
00:26:36.420 to speak to a meeting and that is a dirty trick that they played it was absolutely disgusting in
00:26:42.200 my opinion i say is this your first time being an elected official it is yes let me ask you
00:26:48.700 how it's been learning the ropes in in terms of conduct and protocol and uh are they able to take
00:26:57.260 it i guess maybe at the very beginning they may have been able to take advantage of your lack of
00:27:01.740 knowledge in terms of procedure right some of the things that you didn't know that you quickly
00:27:05.880 picked up on um but do they do like when they do these dirty tricks do they do them because
00:27:12.240 she won't know she's a rookie have they played that card quite a bit oh yeah they played that
00:27:17.240 card an awful lot. Absolutely. And I mean, they don't teach you what to do and what to say at
00:27:21.720 all, right? So yeah, no, they play that card a lot. And then of course, like, you know what,
00:27:26.600 they push the limits, right? Like, for example, here's one that I didn't know. So out of the
00:27:33.660 goodness of our hearts, we have a casino in Pickering. And with the casino, we give about
00:27:46.300 four million dollars a year to the region out of the goodness of our hearts not for any reason at
00:27:52.400 all just for the goodness of our hearts and what i didn't know was that i tried to put a stop to
00:27:59.060 this because like you know we could give that money back to the people we could keep our taxes
00:28:02.720 lower we could open up like you know snow removal program for everybody in this city you know there's
00:28:08.440 a lot of things we could do with that four million dollars but instead the council before me decided
00:28:14.360 they wanted to give four million dollars to the region like i said out of the car so i wanted to
00:28:20.800 wait hold on wait when you say the region like what do you mean the region like just like they
00:28:24.420 run yeah but then what do they do drive around in a car throwing bills out the window or like
00:28:30.000 do they write checks to different community centers and that kind of yeah no they'll just
00:28:33.440 write it to to the region of durham so like you know the olg gives us money from from like you
00:28:40.460 know a percentage of that comes in from the casino and then from the money that we get we decided we
00:28:46.700 were going to give the region some money which comes out to be about four million dollars a year
00:28:51.320 and one level of government just gives another level of government money and then they can do
00:28:57.780 whatever they want with it what what how does that make any sense i don't know i mean i think it would
00:29:03.280 be better spent giving it back to the people of pickering like you know where the casino is that
00:29:07.680 would just make sense to me but see the trick of all of that is is that like i said before we have
00:29:14.240 four members that sit at durham region on our council so it's a mayor and then three regional
00:29:19.700 councillors when they brought this i guess this was a motion that came in to be able to give that
00:29:26.240 money to durham region how is that not a conflict of interest because if there's seven people
00:29:33.960 sitting at our council and four of them are all going to say yes you know what let's give this
00:29:39.520 money away to you know the other party that they're affiliated with the other level of
00:29:46.140 government that they're affiliated with how is that not a conflict of interest and then one of
00:29:51.260 the rules is is that i can't know exactly how to word it but basically that if it if if you vote
00:29:59.280 on something, and if it hasn't been acted upon, and if you want to change those rules, you can
00:30:05.600 only do so if it hasn't been acted upon. Well, when I was running for the election, I was saying
00:30:11.660 like, you know, that, you know, I want to spend the casino funds, like, you know, to do the snow
00:30:15.760 removal program and lower property taxes for the people of Pickering. No money had been given to
00:30:21.900 Durham region as of yet. Even in my inauguration speech, I spoke about this, but I did not know
00:30:29.080 that the regent hadn't received any monies yet which means we could have put a stop to it right
00:30:35.140 then and there but nobody told me that that was something that i could do or i could have brought
00:30:40.280 a motion forward so these are just like little tricks that they wouldn't tell us and then when
00:30:45.560 i tried to bring this motion forward um a few months ago um to say like you know when i'm no
00:30:53.520 longer a council or like you know when this when this motion that they have this agreement that
00:30:59.120 they have is up in 2026 when this comes forward again like you know whoever is on the council to
00:31:06.980 sit there and stop and maybe think about taking that money away from the Durham region and giving
00:31:13.220 it back to the people of Pickering but I tried to bring that forward and I had someone second
00:31:18.800 the motion for me and it was all ready to hit the agenda but then we're they were we're in the
00:31:24.240 council meeting and all of a sudden the mayor says um and it was supposed to come up next on
00:31:29.240 the agenda and the mayor says nope you know what i think this is moot so we're not even going to
00:31:34.140 listen to it today and that was it it was gone gone because the mayor said that he thought that
00:31:40.560 there was that he thought that it was moot so like you know these are still tricks that they're
00:31:45.320 playing that I know nothing about right and how they could just go ahead and just arbitrarily
00:31:51.000 like you know make up these rules as they go along or maybe they are rules and I just don't know
00:31:55.380 but just because the mayor thinks that something is moot that I'm trying to do
00:31:59.440 um I don't think he should have that right and now with the strong mayor's powers you know it's
00:32:04.660 it's even worse because to ask you guys have strong mayor powers uh who were you before all
00:32:10.220 of this I mean why did you decide you wanted to do this I mean you must have known that there was
00:32:14.800 going to be abuse heaped on you almost every single day while you were in this job just based
00:32:19.900 upon your common sense values and yet you still went after it and you you mentioned before you
00:32:25.400 ran for the ontario party but in our conversation on the phone last week and by the way happy belated
00:32:30.260 birthday lisa had a birthday this past weekend you guys um we talked about your trip to ottawa
00:32:35.940 during the the freedom convoy because you said you needed to see for yourself so you've been
00:32:41.580 on to the game for a while haven't you i have you know i really really have you know i actually ran
00:32:48.820 in the election in 2018 as a city councilor and i lost by 174 votes and at that time um it was
00:32:59.340 the first time that pickering had used dominion voting systems well it just so happens that the
00:33:06.220 day of the actual vote the system went down so a lot of people lost their democratic right to vote
00:33:12.640 so when that happened I lost my 174 votes as I said um I wanted to recount so I called up the
00:33:19.400 city clerk and I said you know what I'd like to get a recount because it was so close and she said
00:33:24.960 well you know what Lisa too bad she goes because all I'm going to do is I'm going to push a button
00:33:29.000 you're going to get the exact same result so that election there was zero paper ballot backup so
00:33:35.480 the system went down it went down there was no recording there was nothing everything was done
00:33:42.440 over the phone lines and the internet so there's no record of that election ever happening because
00:33:49.320 the system went down they just had to go with what what they had on whatever record was left
00:33:55.480 yep whatever was record whatever was logged into the machines that's with what they went with so
00:34:00.440 So there was absolutely no way to challenge the results of the Dominion voting system machines.
00:34:09.280 So at that point, myself and a couple of other people that were running in the election in other areas of Pickering and whatnot, we decided that we were going to challenge this and we were going to take the city of Pickering to court.
00:34:20.480 so we filed the application and the next thing you know their heavy-hitting lawyers came after
00:34:27.460 us and they said hey you know what at least if you don't drop this application you're going to
00:34:31.820 end up losing your house because it's going to cost you over two hundred thousand dollars in
00:34:35.320 legal fees um so i suggest you drop the application well everyone else was on the application with me
00:34:42.520 they they took their names off one by one and i was left holding the application it was like
00:34:47.640 this wasn't my hill to die on. So I, too, I could not fight. I could not fight them at all. So.
00:34:55.280 So that many people have been through so many of these types of deals over the past few years 0.99
00:35:03.980 based upon participation in the convoy or or coots or whatever, you know, even stupid mask bylaws.
00:35:11.340 And, you know, I want to ask you about how it was during, how long have you been counselor? 0.84
00:35:17.440 Two years now?
00:35:19.480 Yeah, two years.
00:35:21.160 Okay, so you weren't counselor through all of the heavy-handed mask bylaws and all of that vaccine nonsense, yeah?
00:35:30.160 No, I was not at that time, but I did have a lot of people reaching out to me.
00:35:35.240 So just to finish off with, once I dropped the application, I ended up going back to school and I went to go get my paralegal because I thought if I had my paralegal, the next time I had to face the city in court, I would be a little bit better equipped.
00:35:51.880 Well, I graduated with honors just as COVID hit.
00:35:57.120 Congratulations on graduating with honors, by the way.
00:36:00.100 Thank you.
00:36:00.880 So just as COVID hit, I graduated and I actually had to do my following courses where you have to go in with a lawyer or whatnot.
00:36:12.340 I was with a criminal lawyer and I couldn't step foot in a courtroom because of COVID shutting everything down.
00:36:19.920 So that was a horrible thing.
00:36:21.880 But it was because of all that that I started seeing exactly what was happening.
00:36:29.740 And then I realized, too, at that time that even the courts were being unfair to people because they had changed the procedures that anyone who was going to be sitting in a courtroom or, you know, the jury, the jury had to be vaccinated at the time.
00:36:48.540 So here I am now, just a fresh paralegal thinking, well, how does that work then?
00:36:54.100 Because if you're supposed to be fair and, you know, be judged by your peers, but if you have to be vaccinated, what about if somebody's standing up in front of them and they're unvaccinated, which they're going to know about, then how could you possibly, you know, have a fair trial?
00:37:09.920 And it was at that point there I realized that something was seriously wrong with the system.
00:37:14.260 was it that moment where i ask everybody this because i know that you've been aware of
00:37:21.160 all of this nonsense now for several years uh like many of the people who are watching this
00:37:25.800 myself i mean i i became really tuned into this about four years ago too um and my moment you
00:37:32.660 know when i went what i remember a friend of mine just calling me up and saying here look at this
00:37:38.220 and I looked at it and it had to do with uh Freemasonry a lot of it and some kind of
00:37:46.040 let's call it deep state and I went no this is not right and then they sent me more and more
00:37:51.580 and more information and I at that point I just went right down a rabbit hole and then the show
00:37:55.940 started and and boom here we are did you have your moment in the last few years or have you
00:38:01.940 always been keenly aware of you all you seem like an inquisitive person to me like you've always
00:38:05.640 asked questions when most other people would just sit down and shut up and take it yeah we'll see
00:38:10.580 we'll see that's the thing without becoming a paralegal and learning in class because my my
00:38:16.780 my my teachers were fantastic they said you know what this is a safe space anything you say here
00:38:23.580 feel that this is a safe space you can say whatever you want so i i learned very very
00:38:30.000 quickly how to, and I'm going to say a quote that I always say is that leaders are people who can
00:38:37.420 see what everybody else can see, but they can think differently. And because I took the paralegal
00:38:42.780 course, I feel I really fell into that category. So when COVID first hit, you know, I've got CP24
00:38:51.400 on religiously, and I'm terrified. I mean, I was one of those terrified people. I was
00:38:58.100 Lysol wiping down all of my groceries.
00:39:02.060 They were sitting outside my front door for like two hours.
00:39:06.300 I had my groceries being delivered.
00:39:08.220 And even my mom was getting my groceries for me because she was not afraid and she didn't believe in any of this.
00:39:14.920 And then I went to my-
00:39:17.920 Hold on, hold on.
00:39:18.720 I want you to continue on with that.
00:39:20.140 But that must have been an interesting dynamic. 0.98
00:39:22.460 Your mom didn't believe any of this crap and you were wiping everything down. 0.89
00:39:26.740 What kinds of things did she say to you? 0.99
00:39:29.040 She didn't say anything to me. 1.00
00:39:31.180 She literally, she didn't say anything to me.
00:39:33.560 She just let me go because I was actually a hypochondriac at the time as well, which
00:39:38.320 I am clearly, I am no longer a hypochondriac.
00:39:41.240 And I'll tell you the story.
00:39:42.340 Why is because I went to my doctor's office and he was still seeing patients at the time
00:39:48.740 and I walked in, I didn't have a mask on.
00:39:50.580 He came in the room and he was not wearing a mask and he said, okay, Lisa, what's wrong?
00:39:56.440 And I said, well, I said, this COVID thing, I said, I think I'm going to die. He goes,
00:40:02.060 have you been Googling this? And I said, yes. And he's always told me stop Googling stuff,
00:40:07.600 Lisa, because you're going to every, every symptom that you have, you're going to see
00:40:11.100 that you're going to die. Right? So he goes, okay, let's just do it. So he opened up his laptop in
00:40:16.840 front of me and he started typing and stuff. And he said, okay, Lisa, he goes, do you smoke? And
00:40:21.400 I'm like, no. He goes, do you have diabetes? I'm like, no. Are you obese? No. Do you drink alcohol
00:40:29.080 excessively or anything? I'm like, no. He goes, do you have heart problems in your family? I'm like,
00:40:34.280 no. Diabetes? No. And he goes, well, right there, he goes, you have a 98.7% chance that if you get
00:40:41.580 COVID, you're going to live. And I was like, really? He's like, yes. And I said, what about
00:40:46.260 my son. He goes, your son has a hundred percent chance. And I walked out of there, you know,
00:40:50.880 my chest is out. Like I'm the best there is. And you know what? I'm feeling good. I'm happy,
00:40:57.420 but I got still got CP24 on. Two weeks later, I fall right back into it again. I call my doctor
00:41:05.380 up and I wanted to speak to him again to get the reassurance. And this time it was going to be a
00:41:11.900 phone visit. I'm like, what the hell is that? So then he gets on the phone and he's like,
00:41:18.340 have you had your shots yet, Lisa? And I'm like, no. And he goes, well, go out and get your shot.
00:41:24.840 And I said, well, do I still have a 98.7% chance of surviving if I get COVID? And is my son still
00:41:33.640 100%? He goes, yes. He goes, but stop being so selfish. Think of your mom, think of your friends,
00:41:40.760 think of your family and go get the damn shot well basically he hung up on me and I sat there 0.99
00:41:46.900 and I started bawling my eyes out I called my mom I'm like mom I don't think I have a doctor anymore 1.00
00:41:52.840 she came over to my house right away and she looked at me and I looked at her and I told her
00:42:00.200 about the conversation that's when the light bulb went off and I went wait a minute he said I still
00:42:06.520 had a 98.7% chance of surviving I said mom I said what the hell is going on here I said
00:42:12.140 she goes well she goes you're going to be fine Lisa and it was at that moment I said to her I
00:42:17.980 said mom I said I feel like I've been lied to my whole entire life and she goes you have been
00:42:22.780 and it was that was it then all of a sudden I was like nope I'm not wearing a mask I'm not doing
00:42:29.100 anything and then I started researching things like Pfizer because being a paralegal now now
00:42:36.180 i'm going on to canley and i'm researching wait a minute wait a minute before you go on with this
00:42:41.000 yeah this is what was your mom's reaction when you finally woke up did she like have
00:42:46.920 tears of joy streaming down her face or was there an i told you so look on her face i mean
00:42:51.700 how was that yeah no she's never done the i told you so but you could just see that she was happy
00:42:58.700 like you know gave me a hug and you know there's my daughter back kind of type thing right and
00:43:04.960 Yeah. So then after that happened, I started researching Pfizer. There was one thing that
00:43:09.280 really got me, which really solidified it for me was I was researching Pfizer. What I didn't know
00:43:14.300 is, and I'm sure a lot of your viewers out there don't know, is that whenever there is a,
00:43:19.400 there is like a new vaccine, if that's what you want to call it, anytime they want to test it,
00:43:27.020 a lot of times they will go to a third world country where their laws are a little bit more
00:43:31.940 relaxed, let's say. And what they'll do is they'll go to the third world countries and they will 0.96
00:43:38.480 offer, let's say, a big bag of rice that would feed their family for a year if they're allowed
00:43:44.480 to experiment on, let's say, a child. Well, I came across this one case where Pfizer, I believe it
00:43:50.500 was Pfizer, that wanted to do experiments. They gave the rice to the family. They experiment
00:43:58.520 the vaccine on a child and the child had a very poor outcome like you know the very beginning it
00:44:06.340 was a frozen eye it was like half of the body you know paralyzed but they didn't stop there
00:44:12.580 even when that happened to the child they decided to give a child a couple of more shots the child
00:44:17.880 died three days later heartbreaking to read about on can lee and basically their synopsis of the
00:44:27.000 whole entire thing was well you know what maybe we gave gave a child too much of the vaccine
00:44:32.020 let's drop it down to a third of the dosage for children and you know then you're hearing about
00:44:39.300 the vaccines here and then there was talk about giving it to the children and the whispers when
00:44:44.740 they were talking about giving it to the children they were saying they were going to drop it down
00:44:48.580 to a third of the dose for children here and at that time there it was like it's like i have to
00:44:56.260 started speaking out so then I started going to Queen's Park and I started speaking out I actually
00:45:00.840 gave speeches with all the statistics and everything else and I've never stopped since
00:45:06.020 and then yes I ended up in Ottawa at the Freedom Convoy to see for myself because I heard about all
00:45:11.760 the rumors about things that were happening and disruptions and this and that and I went there
00:45:17.880 and then I documented it every day and you know put messages up on Facebook about the
00:45:22.760 false the falsehoods of what people were saying and whatnot and uh yeah the media the the left-wing
00:45:29.040 corporate media as we call them on this show or the marxist corporate media you could take your
00:45:32.760 pick they they lied their butts off the entire time vivian reminds me to ask what is canly you
00:45:39.340 talked about canly but i interrupted you yeah canly is just a c-a-n-l-i-i anybody can go on
00:45:47.320 there really and take a look and you can pull up all different kinds of court cases so there's a
00:45:52.360 way to search in there and you could just put it a couple of key words of something that you want
00:45:58.360 to know about and you can pull up all the court cases yeah so you have been speaking out you were
00:46:05.420 going to queen's park i'm sure you bumped into chris sky and some of the other uh big names who
00:46:10.820 have been speaking out from the toronto area you go to ottawa what was that like for you
00:46:17.160 And Ottawa was incredible. And like I said, it was it was a real eye opener. You know, the people that were there were fantastic. There was no fighting. It was just dancing. Everybody. It was just full of love.
00:46:31.000 like you know the bouncy councils everything there was nothing hateful that anybody was doing
00:46:36.700 whatsoever um but i found out but i found that the people that were there were very very hateful
00:46:44.700 and were not so welcoming to the guests that it came to ottawa so far the residents of the of the
00:46:51.740 downtown area those people well not only the residents but also some of the hotels like i
00:46:56.840 think I stayed at the Lord Elgin that time and they didn't like people coming in and using the
00:47:03.720 bathroom let's say and they also had a beautiful big fireplace right there on the ground floor
00:47:10.180 when you first walk into the hotel well they decided to shut the fireplace off so nobody
00:47:15.820 could go in there and get warm and then they also locked the main floor bathrooms so nobody could
00:47:21.800 come in there and use a bathroom and even me as a hotel guest i had to keep going up to my floor
00:47:28.280 which is like the ninth floor or something i stayed on at that time to go to the washroom
00:47:32.760 it was horrible like you know it was it was really terrible that you know they wouldn't even allow 0.78
00:47:38.220 people to use a bathroom it was it was it was disgusting absolutely disgusting jeff evley of
00:47:45.100 Veterans for Freedom is on trial today and tomorrow and maybe Wednesday, I think, for police brutality or something.
00:47:53.620 They tried to arrest him and he resisted, whatever it is.
00:47:56.540 And he got banned from Ottawa.
00:47:58.000 Jeff is a good guy.
00:47:59.040 And I just wanted to mention to you guys right now, if you're watching, you watch Jeff on Veterans for Freedom, some of the podcasts they do.
00:48:06.140 He is in Ottawa right now going through all of this.
00:48:09.320 He's not even allowed in Ottawa.
00:48:10.520 so they had to escort him in for this court case because if he gets caught in ottawa he gets
00:48:16.060 arrested again uh so he'll be there for the next couple of days i think patriot smoothie and
00:48:21.100 excuse me chris daisy have been doing a good job of of doing live reports on that so the convoy
00:48:27.800 were you there at the end did you see all that go down i was not there at the end of it no
00:48:33.220 unfortunately i wasn't i was there though when they started bringing all the extra police presence
00:48:38.960 into ottawa and i was filming them because i was shocked to see all these people getting out and
00:48:45.200 like you know just walking in these straight lines like some kind of like you know military
00:48:49.820 up and down the streets and it was like i gotta get out of here no kidding yeah no kidding you
00:48:56.420 came back home did you feel because i know there was a sense of oh god i i think despair would
00:49:03.440 probably be the best word that i could come up with after it was over and the way they ended it
00:49:07.720 the horses trampling uh and and just the the general kettling that they were doing with the 1.00
00:49:13.480 police and uh the abuse of people maggie hope braun had a gun put to her head as she kneeled
00:49:20.440 on a canadian flag in the streets uh jeff gearing beaten relentlessly a former veteran
00:49:27.320 or sorry a veteran former member of the canadian armed forces and so many other stories obviously
00:49:32.280 uh we've got tamara and uh chris barber still on trial even though that wrapped up last week
00:49:38.920 all of this stuff's still going on so how did you feel after all of this is is this what drove you
00:49:44.040 to now run again and try and make a difference and i do want to get into what's been going on
00:49:48.520 with you in the last couple of years since you've been counselor but let's take it from there from
00:49:53.240 way back well absolutely because even our own mp jennifer o'connell she um she also lied in the
00:50:02.220 house of commons and i was really really disgusted with that because like you know there were the
00:50:06.680 rumors that you know it was a freedom convoy that was like you know lighting fires in the halls of
00:50:12.760 the hotels i mean there was that and then i'm gonna can i use bad language on your show
00:50:19.700 or do you want me to beat myself out you can go ahead okay so hold on we'll warn people first
00:50:26.560 lisa's about to use bad language everybody so i am um and it's because of something that 0.99
00:50:31.740 jennifer o'connell said not what i'm saying i'm using her words so she got up in the house of
00:50:38.600 commons and she had she said something to the chagrin of mr speaker you know this freedom
00:50:45.820 convoy is bad type thing they've left me phone messages at my office and I don't know who it was 0.97
00:50:53.260 but they called me a cunt so yes Mr. Speaker that's the word that they called me and she 0.96
00:50:59.400 she said it again and then apologized for using the unparliamentary language obviously but she 0.98
00:51:05.620 got away with it anyways but you know it was it was that and then I'm thinking to myself well if
00:51:12.000 you didn't know who made the call. So why are you sitting there and saying to the whole entire
00:51:19.780 world right now in the House of Commons, that it was somebody from the Freedom Convoy, if you don't
00:51:25.460 know who it was that left you the message, because I'm sure the person didn't say, hi, I'm so and so
00:51:30.240 from the Freedom Convoy, and I think you are a, right? No, that didn't happen. It was an anonymous
00:51:36.080 call. But yet, you know, for somebody to sit there and say that, which is very similar now to what
00:51:41.900 my own council is doing with their accusations on a lot of things and it was at that point there
00:51:47.940 I'm thinking you know even our politicians they're so corrupt and like none of the politicians were
00:51:54.920 out there speaking you know it didn't it seemed like everybody was afraid to stand up for you
00:52:01.080 know what they believe in what is right and like you know what is happening and that was really
00:52:07.380 really disgusting which pushed me even further to to want to run for council let me let me ask you
00:52:13.740 um before we get into what your life has been like for these past couple of years
00:52:18.060 and i know there's a lot of people who know some of the stuff that's happened to you but not
00:52:23.360 everything and the horrible way in which you've been treated including a suspension from council
00:52:27.760 for what was it again ethics or something uh anyway yeah why do you think these politicians
00:52:35.420 and you know i mean my philosophy is that it wasn't politically expedient for them to do so
00:52:41.420 but why do you think that these politicians would like even pierre polyam you know not until the
00:52:47.160 very end did he even say anything and he was rallying about the vaccines it's trudeau and
00:52:52.520 how late they were delivered to canada i mean why wouldn't they say anything i think the only people
00:52:57.920 that did were derek sloan maxime bernier and and uh the people from the so-called extreme right
00:53:03.700 but we know that's not extreme right what was the issue here in your opinion it's it's all for votes
00:53:10.640 it's all for votes nothing else it's securing their own jobs in my opinion that's all it's
00:53:17.640 about is like nobody wants to rock the boat nobody wants to put themselves out there in fear of like
00:53:23.140 you know any kind of backlash because they might lose votes and and that's exactly what it was i
00:53:28.940 I mean, it takes a really strong person like, you know, Maxine Bernier, Derek Sloan.
00:53:33.380 There was also Jim Kelly Hallios from the New Blue Party.
00:53:37.720 He was also he was there as well.
00:53:40.500 But other than here.
00:53:42.240 Yeah, that's it.
00:53:43.700 But other than other than them, there were no other politicians that were willing to speak up and say anything at the time.
00:53:52.020 And it's because of that, it's because of votes.
00:53:53.920 It was like I said, as soon as I became a member of the government, you know, like I said, the first thing they said to me now was, Lisa, keep your head down.
00:54:02.940 Don't get into anything controversial and start thinking about your next election.
00:54:08.140 And that's exactly what it is. So that's it's all about votes.
00:54:11.540 They don't care about the people. It's about their their own income, what they can have.
00:54:15.900 They can benefit. It's not about the people. And I'm seeing this day in and day out.
00:54:21.060 how long did it take for them to start treating you badly on pickering city council
00:54:28.500 it it happened pretty quickly actually as soon as i decided i want to bring some
00:54:37.140 motions forward for my constituents which had to do with a flag flag raisings only only raising
00:54:44.780 governmental flags on all governmental buildings. And they, during COVID, a recreation center that
00:54:52.920 we have here, they decided that they were going to bring in the universal change room, but they
00:54:59.180 put a lot of rules around it. So for example, there's an all-female change room, but you have 0.99
00:55:08.900 to be a member to use it and you have to be over the age of 18. There's an all-male member change 0.54
00:55:16.540 room, but again, you have to be over the age of 18 and you have to be a member to use it.
00:55:22.120 If you are a member under the age of 18, you have to use the universal change room. If you are there
00:55:30.560 for a day, a tournament, and you're not a member, no matter what age you are, you're also being
00:55:36.420 thrown into the universal change room and so i was trying to bring a motion forward that you know
00:55:42.740 you should be everyone should have the right to choose a man woman boy girl should have the right 0.96
00:55:47.900 to choose whether they want to go to a biological bathroom or the choice to use the universal 0.84
00:55:54.420 changer which is inclusive of all genders and our families and of course i got two genders you mean
00:56:01.220 both of them yeah yeah the universal change room would basically be like a family change room is
00:56:06.720 what we used to call them back in the day but now they call them universal so any gender can go in
00:56:12.160 there but for example let's say i had a daughter and myself and my daughter were both members and 0.94
00:56:20.200 my daughter was 15 well my daughter cannot come to the same biological bathroom with me she would
00:56:27.880 have to go to the universal change room so if i didn't want her to be alone in a room where i 1.00
00:56:33.580 knew there was going to be men then i would have to go to that change room with her because she's 1.00
00:56:38.680 not allowed even though she's a member because she's under the age of 18 that's just let me 1.00
00:56:44.940 twisted yeah it's twisted i mean i you know if if my daughter was forced into going to a universal
00:56:52.720 little change room where there's going to be essentially could be men you know 45 year old
00:56:57.760 65 year old 18 year old men parading around naked coming out of the shower 1.00
00:57:01.780 and she obviously is going to a change room so she has to take one set of clothes off and put 0.92
00:57:08.100 on another set of clothes for the workout or whatever activity she's going to be doing I 1.00
00:57:13.720 would not be so comfortable with that and as a matter of fact I mean I can see violence actually
00:57:18.860 happening based upon this we have seen some incidents in canada and in other countries where
00:57:26.860 you know predators have thrown themselves into a situation like this and they've been taking
00:57:33.020 pictures and they even try and rub up against some of these poor young ladies and they've
00:57:37.580 traumatized them um and yet the counselors in pickering think that's okay yes they do they
00:57:45.260 they think it's okay. And in fact, when I tried bringing this motion forward, they called me
00:57:51.500 transphobic, homophobic, and wrote a letter to the integrity commissioner. And in their letter
00:57:56.120 to the integrity commissioner, they lied and said that I wanted to remove the universal change room
00:58:03.620 where that is not true. I said, everyone should have a choice. And that was it. And that the
00:58:10.680 universal changer would remain but be inclusive of all genders and or families but they lied to
00:58:17.040 the integrity commissioner of course the integrity commissioner ended up sanctioning me and i lost
00:58:21.860 like you know all this pay didn't you mention to me last week on the phone that the integrity
00:58:27.560 commissioner of your area happens to be like woke af like one of the worst oh yeah absolutely she
00:58:36.100 called me a cis woman right when when the proceedings start like that you know it's not
00:58:41.560 going to go your way no that that's exactly it that's exactly it and then my third motion that
00:58:46.920 i was trying to bring forward um was on the drag shows and pride events because they are adult 0.94
00:58:56.020 lewd entertainment all i wanted to do was put an age restriction on these events which would
00:59:02.360 have been the age of 18 and I was using the age of 18 because I thought, you know what, maybe we
00:59:06.840 could have some negotiation, talk it down to 15 or something like that. But unfortunately, because I
00:59:13.480 wanted to bring that forward, again, I was transphobic and homophobic. And then with the flag
00:59:18.700 raising bylaw, which I never got to finish, was that I wanted to make sure that only governmental
00:59:23.840 flags were flown on all governmental buildings. And that would have been based on the 2015 Supreme
00:59:30.540 court law decision where the government needs to remain in a state of neutrality now we based
00:59:38.660 that decision on why we removed the prayer before our council meetings was based on that that we
00:59:47.460 need to remain in a state of neutrality but yet when it comes to the flags nobody wanted to hear
00:59:53.660 it and uh they they sat there and they lied and they said because i didn't want to have the pride
00:59:59.720 flag flown, whereas I said all flags. I never singled out any flags. So again, it was just
01:00:05.100 another lie. So I ended up losing a quarter of my year's salary because of all of this.
01:00:12.780 And so a quarter of my year's salary, which is $15,000 plus. But since then, I have found out
01:00:21.940 that my council voted to spend at least $200,000 of the taxpayer's money to fight me because I'm
01:00:32.300 taking them for a judicial review, which is coming up next month. And they decided they were going
01:00:37.760 to spend up to $200,000 of the taxpayer's money. So instead of giving me the $15,000 plus that they
01:00:44.540 could just give me they've decided to spend two hundred thousand dollars instead so do these
01:00:52.440 counselors come up with all of this nonsense themselves and by the way i mean you they got
01:00:57.620 you for a breach of ethics am i right like when when they sanctioned you and and find you was it
01:01:04.920 ethics what what under what circumstances well they say it's a code of conduct right right and
01:01:12.560 So since they were calling me transphobic and homophobic, you know, it just fell in there somewhere.
01:01:17.940 Yeah.
01:01:18.060 Code of conduct, according to what they say.
01:01:20.960 So are they rewriting the conduct rules of counsel as they go along as well?
01:01:26.060 Or is it just because you don't agree with them?
01:01:28.340 Well, it's because I go against them on everything, right?
01:01:31.700 So they just start saying that, you know, everything is a code of conduct issue, even though, you know what?
01:01:38.220 our own flag raising bylaw
01:01:40.240 says that we are not allowed
01:01:42.120 to fly any flags of
01:01:43.820 political controversy
01:01:45.560 or any flags that have
01:01:48.100 any kind of audiological
01:01:49.940 beliefs attached to them.
01:01:52.040 And we're also not allowed to fly
01:01:54.100 flags more than once
01:01:55.720 in a 12-month period.
01:01:57.980 And of course, we've broken
01:01:59.740 every single one of those flag raising
01:02:02.060 rules. But yet,
01:02:04.100 I'm the one being sanctioned.
01:02:06.720 Let me ask you. 1.00
01:02:08.220 When now you've mentioned that at least three, probably all of the other female members of 0.52
01:02:13.100 council are woke and they believe all of this nonsense. What about the other male member 0.54
01:02:19.420 and the mayor? When you look at them, do you get that feeling that they are woke AF or are they
01:02:28.580 just playing a role for their own political game? No, I think they've, they've definitely gone woke.
01:02:36.320 um our mayor uh says he's as conservative but he hasn't stood up for not one conservative value so
01:02:45.560 no he's definitely he's i'm going to call him alt left now right if they can keep on calling me all
01:02:50.100 right i'm going to call them alt left um no i mean he said some horrible things about you
01:02:55.120 yeah i mean on public media he has said some terrible things about you he's also said it on 0.57
01:03:02.320 social media he's an awful horrible horrible man in my opinion as a matter of fact i you know i
01:03:08.400 don't normally do this kind of thing and this was a pretty recent thing in the last couple of weeks 0.98
01:03:13.360 after reading what he said about you i i responded and said dude you're a horrible person 0.86
01:03:20.660 how on earth can you even look at yourself in the mirror and sleep at night with the way you're 0.96
01:03:26.280 treating her all she has is a different opinion no absolutely absolutely he has sat there he has
01:03:34.980 degraded me he has yelled at me in council meetings he has forbid me to speak because i do have an
01:03:40.660 opposing view and because i won't back down and you know just he yells a lot and he yells at
01:03:47.920 council meetings and i'm constantly saying you know don't talk to me like that like you know
01:03:52.580 stop raising your voice at me and then finally one day I said you know what I'm not your wife 0.57
01:03:56.920 don't talk to me like that because it's absolutely disgusting but you know it's not only me he talks
01:04:02.560 to like that if there's another female and like if you watch some of the videos that I have out 0.91
01:04:08.840 there and that other people have posted he yells a lot at women any woman that challenges him or
01:04:15.340 doesn't obey what he says he sits there and he starts yelling at them and then anyone on social 0.99
01:04:22.820 media who disagrees with them he calls them racist transphobic homophobic nazis he tells them to go 0.98
01:04:30.980 and have themselves another drink even making making it seem like you know that they're they're 0.93
01:04:36.660 drunk while they're having these like you know online back and forth and even openly on a hot
01:04:42.820 mike in council he called anyone that was there who he calls my supporters like that's a bad thing
01:04:49.680 so anyone who disagrees with him he calls them my supporters which is which is completely untrue 0.74
01:04:56.560 but he called them nut cases over a hot mike he called them nut cases he should have been
01:05:04.340 sanctioned for that kind of behavior was there a sexual misconduct situation can you talk about
01:05:09.520 that yes there is there's um councillor brenner um who has done numerous things like you know um
01:05:16.680 i keep on saying like you know i've been having to put up with sexual harassment psychological
01:05:20.860 harassment and workplace um violence councillor brenner says to me as we're out one night
01:05:27.460 he's like you know councillor he goes i would have an affair on my partner but she would have
01:05:35.000 to be younger than younger than my partner but older than my daughter how old are you again
01:05:40.860 and these are things that he would say to me so clearly he's hitting on you has he ever
01:05:47.960 like rubbed up against you in a in a situation yeah he's uh the the staring it's the constant
01:05:55.400 staring at me every time i look in the direction it's like you know always these stairs are on me
01:06:00.480 or you know coming up arm around the waist like you know for photos and stuff i don't know who
01:06:05.740 puts their arms around somebody's waist during photos not too many people i know not too many
01:06:11.320 guys i know who dare put their arms around my waist let me tell you right right are you taking
01:06:17.840 action is there any action being taken against this guy or let me finish what else has happened
01:06:24.560 though the psychological harassment he's also the same person that has cropped my photos out of
01:06:30.600 pictures of us at events together so if all seven of us are in an event they will crop my photo out
01:06:37.960 to make it look like i'm not there psychological abuse i walk into a room they sit there and they
01:06:43.720 start whispering to people and they don't talk to me anymore and they sit there and they like
01:06:50.580 nasty things that some people might say from fake Facebook accounts on like Pickering talks or
01:06:57.480 Pickering free speech. Some things that nasty people say, and they'll sit there and put little
01:07:03.140 hearts or laughing emojis or thumbs up and stuff like that. And yet I'm the one that gets sanctioned.
01:07:09.820 So yes. And also counselor Brenner said to me, Lisa, I could put a knife in your back. 0.99
01:07:16.800 I could slowly twist it and you would never know until I was getting ready to pull it out.
01:07:22.240 And this is also the same counselor who is on tape saying in regards to the mayor.
01:07:29.540 And there's a video out there so you can actually hear it yourself.
01:07:32.960 He says, I'm going to swear again, just a warning to everybody. 1.00
01:07:37.400 He said, I would like to sharpen my sword and decapitate the motherfucker. 1.00
01:07:43.340 Sorry for the language again. 1.00
01:07:44.620 But yet he's okay
01:07:47.800 So I brought this up to the integrity commissioner
01:07:50.280 And of course the integrity commissioner has thrown out
01:07:53.720 Every single one of my complaints
01:07:56.340 Saying that they are all in retaliatory nature
01:07:59.800 And they're vexatious
01:08:01.820 Because they put in complaints against me first
01:08:07.060 So I can't win right now at this point
01:08:09.280 So I either now have to go to human rights
01:08:11.300 or i have to bring you know it forward in a court case everything that you can do is going to cost
01:08:19.020 you money and who can afford that that's the problem the process is the penalty so what about
01:08:25.060 going forward um are you going to run again or are you going to try a different level of government
01:08:32.640 what's what's the plan um i'm definitely going to run again absolutely i might try a different
01:08:39.480 level of government um if i could get in underneath pierre polyev and you know run as that in this
01:08:48.020 area in the pickering area then i would love to do that they're changing the boundaries from
01:08:53.080 pickering uxbridge to pickering brooklyn if i could do that i would love to do that if not i
01:08:58.880 would like to go up against the mayor and run for mayor yep yep because what i want to do is i want
01:09:05.980 to be able to use the mayor's powers for good and with those powers i could do a lot i could
01:09:13.180 actually tear down the city of pickering and then build it back up and give it back to the people 1.00
01:09:18.780 and that's what i really want to do you get rid of the wokeness i mean this is the thing 0.91
01:09:23.760 when we talk about the deep state and we talk about the bureaucracy how many of those people
01:09:29.060 actually support all of these nonsense initiatives like with the trans flag and and painting streets 0.61
01:09:35.600 with these colors and all of that I mean do you feel as though they're do you feel as though
01:09:41.060 they feel as though they're being forced into things they don't want to do a lot of the staff
01:09:46.760 is being forced into it because like you know when the CAO makes a statement she makes it on
01:09:52.280 behalf of the corporation so everybody working underneath that corporation is now has to go
01:09:58.780 along with that statement because if they speak out against it you know what they could lose their
01:10:03.140 jobs. I mean, a lot of the people who refuse to get the shots lost their jobs from the city of
01:10:08.900 Pickering. And, you know, even the unions won't even protect them. You know, the unions are
01:10:13.960 supposed to protect their own people, but they didn't. They're protecting the corporation.
01:10:19.140 So I think that is pretty much just a joke in itself. But for example, there has been a couple
01:10:25.640 of statements that have gone out from the CAO and I've had staff call me personally, send me
01:10:32.520 letters send me emails send me messages saying that they do not agree with um with with the cao's
01:10:41.020 statement so but they're afraid to speak up from many you feel support from much of the staff and
01:10:47.000 this is the problem how many times have you and i heard that line that you just said in the past
01:10:52.100 few years they're afraid to speak up yeah if you decide you want to move forward and run from air
01:10:59.040 and I think you'd probably have a good deal of the support of Canada not that that would mean
01:11:03.960 anything in the electorate but you would have a lot of people right behind you because you have
01:11:08.000 become quite a well-known face and a figure across the entire country that's why you're on the show
01:11:13.280 tonight I mean I thought wow you know Pickering's kind of punching above its weight with what you've
01:11:18.360 done and the ripples that you've created how are you treated within the city obviously a city of
01:11:24.660 just over a hundred thousand people you're pretty well-known figure there being a city
01:11:28.900 counselor are you treated well do people uh say nice things to you are there odd and awkward
01:11:35.220 circumstances is there downright hate no every every day everywhere i go people are coming up
01:11:41.300 to me and saying lisa you're giving us so much you're giving us so much hope don't stop do not
01:11:47.780 stop you know the only hate i'm really getting right now is like i said on a facebook group
01:11:53.620 called Pickering Talks. And that's from about, there's only about 12 haters on that group,
01:11:59.740 but they're very, very loud. And, you know, and half of them are fake Facebook accounts. And like
01:12:05.580 I said, just the other day, I'm not even sure what day it came up. Oh, my birthday was Saturday,
01:12:12.340 Sunday, yesterday. Yesterday was my birthday. So I had a gathering Saturday and all of a sudden
01:12:19.560 it was up on facebook but what they did was they posted a gathering of the ku klux klan with all
01:12:26.360 the white hats and the white gowns and they said yeah counselor robinson had a bunch of people over
01:12:31.560 at her house and it's stuff like that you know just from these haters and of course it's posted
01:12:37.240 by anonymous and you know fake facebook accounts right but they're very very loud but other people
01:12:43.800 are seeing through it so i get so much support everywhere i go right now somebody is somebody
01:12:49.640 wants me to ask you a question here let's see if i can find it come on shadow ask her this question
01:12:54.280 what is this evelyn no doc remington who's doc remington i've never seen this name before it
01:13:00.840 seems to me that we've got a couple of trolls in the comments tonight what question i don't see
01:13:05.320 the question okay so what what we need going forward then if you're going to run for mayor
01:13:10.520 and this is what i wanted to ask you do you have a bunch of people who might be interested in
01:13:15.400 running for council even though you would have the strong mayor powers and you may be able to
01:13:19.560 make some changes you would still need a majority on council to make a lot of different things of
01:13:25.560 more important things happen people who actually think like common sense people and there's still
01:13:31.080 a lot of us out there is there a possibility of getting these people to run absolutely there is
01:13:38.680 And, like, you know, with what you say with the strong mayor's powers, yes, I understand I would still have to have a majority of the council in order to push things through.
01:13:46.140 Absolutely.
01:13:47.440 But, you know what, if you put somebody with common sense for the common people as the CAO, then the reports that we would start getting back at council would be geared that way as well, right?
01:14:04.600 instead of like you know trying to push the edi into the into the plans and you know a lot of this
01:14:11.980 woke stuff that is going on you know if we had somebody else that was heading up these reports
01:14:18.000 who is more like i said common sense for the common people that would completely change the
01:14:23.840 whole entire dynamics of council as well because then you wouldn't be seeing all the woke stuff
01:14:29.280 right we would just be getting down to the business and it would be stuff that would be like
01:14:33.320 between what's right and what's wrong and actually doing work for the people right
01:14:38.620 i have one more thing sorry and stopping all of this like you know census
01:14:45.320 spending that we're doing right now ridiculousness let me ask you this we we have a problem
01:14:52.240 in winnipeg with a 15-minute city they don't call it that they call it the complete city plan
01:14:57.420 2050. And this is this has come out just in the past couple of weeks. People have figured it out
01:15:03.780 and they are doing, you know, here I thought, oh, my God, it's done. We're finished. But people
01:15:09.560 have been standing up and they have been fighting back, which is amazing. Calgary's mayor, Jody
01:15:15.680 Gondek, was just elected the vice president of the World Energy Cities Partnership. So we know
01:15:21.200 where Calgary is going in the not too distant future. What about Pickering? Have you been
01:15:26.440 seeing any of this nonsense come across your desk? Oh yeah I've been seeing a lot of it in the
01:15:31.840 reports and yes I've actually questioned them about 15 minute cities smart cities and you know
01:15:39.520 the mayor starts yelling at me and saying stop with crazy street and stop going down the rabbit
01:15:44.700 hole and meanwhile he did a whole entire video on smart cities and we've also allocated over
01:15:53.120 $200,000 in a future budget coming up for smart city technology. But yet he and the rest of them
01:16:02.340 refused to admit it because they know that there is going to be an uproar from the citizens of
01:16:08.040 Pickering. So, you know, I told him, I said, you can call it 15-minute cities, you can call it
01:16:13.560 smart cities, you can call it C40 cities, you can call it, you know, communities, full communities,
01:16:19.720 these whatever words you're going to label it it is all the same it really is it's just that
01:16:24.760 they know that some of these labels that they're putting on it there will be an uproar so you
01:16:31.140 again being a city councilor this is something that just occurred to me and i'm keeping you
01:16:35.360 longer than i said it what i'm sorry but this is i just love this conversation people drive
01:16:41.000 from point a to point b in whatever city they live in and they notice hey there's a new pole
01:16:45.840 that's gone up here with some weird funky thing on the top of it I don't know what that is what
01:16:49.600 is that supposed to be or maybe they see the purple lights on their street lights and they're
01:16:54.820 going okay why is that purple do you have any information about any new gadgetry any new facial
01:17:01.380 recognition any new data collecting things that have gone up and in your city I'm not going to
01:17:06.180 ask you for other cities obviously but in your city is any kind of weird technology gone up
01:17:11.140 without people really knowing yeah we've had a lot of cctv um cameras going up on all the poles
01:17:18.320 and a lot of them have to be um like you know on the pickering scarborough border or pretty much
01:17:24.400 all the exits when you're getting on and off of highways it seems to be and i actually inquired
01:17:31.300 about that so i actually called over to the police and i sent them an email as well and i said could
01:17:36.720 you please tell me um who okayed these cameras when did they go up and are they equipped with
01:17:42.340 facial recognition and of course the police sent me back a letter saying we don't know anything
01:17:47.420 about them contact Durham region so I contacted Durham region and again they're like we don't know
01:17:53.880 anything about these cameras contact the police so then I contacted the police again I said Durham
01:17:59.300 region said to contact you and then all of a sudden it was like oh yeah yeah we know about
01:18:04.640 those cameras. And the reason why they went up is because, you know, there's been crime in those
01:18:10.620 areas. And then they gave me, there was actually a shooting at a bar that is literally just like,
01:18:17.100 you know, two blocks away from my house. And they said that this is why they put the camera up
01:18:22.180 there, but the camera had actually gone up before that shooting. So that was just a big lie in my
01:18:29.240 opinion as well um and then i asked him if they were equipped with facial recognition and they
01:18:34.860 said no but do i believe that i don't think so i mean i don't know what to believe anymore because
01:18:42.420 like you know there's been a lot of half truths that have been spoken i don't want to say that
01:18:46.720 they're lying but like you know you're not i'm not getting the full truth and a lot of things
01:18:50.440 when i'm asking questions about and i literally have to find it myself and then say here is the
01:18:56.360 the truth right and that's also with yeah and then also with like you know durham region with
01:19:03.620 their full plan you know there's a section in there that says that they want to have car free
01:19:08.740 zones in durham and you know in a few years and people don't realize that it's like they've
01:19:16.860 already started it because a lot of the developments that they're putting through right now
01:19:20.760 there is not enough parking like you know if you have a 500 let's say 36 unit building they might
01:19:29.560 only have enough cars for like 236 spots and then that's it they're trying to get rid of the vehicles
01:19:36.840 here and yes they have in their plan that there will be car free zones and high density obviously
01:19:44.380 as well right that's one of the other things yep all the adus coming in you have additional
01:19:50.400 dwelling units i mean is it a coincidence that this is happening in every municipality like
01:19:57.300 is it a coincidence like you know everybody thinks at the exact same time like hey let's
01:20:03.320 bring in additional dwelling units no there are no i do not believe in coincidences and a lot of
01:20:09.920 things that are happening in Pickering are happening in other municipalities and pretty
01:20:14.520 much around the world all at the same time. Is there anything to do with land expropriation
01:20:19.820 for density at all in any plans that you've seen? Not just yet, or I haven't really been following
01:20:28.680 the land expropriation quite closely, because we just had that whole entire, like, you know,
01:20:35.180 the the the green space scandal over here with Doug Ford and everything else which which was
01:20:42.000 another thing like you know they were pushing to build in the in the green spaces over here and
01:20:46.800 you know I kept on saying well you know if an investigation is going on maybe we should put
01:20:51.520 a pause on some of our projects that they were trying to push through and nope they wanted to
01:20:56.560 keep on wasting the taxpayers money with like you know these high paying lawyers once again
01:21:01.200 and I kept on saying like you know let's wait until the investigation comes back from the
01:21:06.560 Ford government and they said no and you know we all know how that turned out and now you know
01:21:13.180 we've spent almost four hundred thousand dollars of the taxpayers money and the mayor and council
01:21:20.000 had to send a letter to the provincial government saying hey make us whole and they're under zero
01:21:25.980 obligation to make us whole and regardless of that making us whole for the provincial government
01:21:31.500 if people don't realize that if they're going to send us money it's still taxpayers money that's
01:21:38.900 being sent back to us it's just coming out of a different pocket and a lot of people don't
01:21:43.520 realize that they think that the provincial government's going to give us money to make us
01:21:47.140 whole that you know they're giving us money but no they're not they're increasing all of these
01:21:51.940 other things and it's just taxpayers money that they're giving back to us so let me ask you um
01:21:58.020 why they're because you ran for the ontario party that's derrick sloan's party right yep um and
01:22:05.260 that's a new party people hadn't heard of it before and maybe they thought well i can't vote
01:22:10.640 for this it's going to be a wasted vote why is it so difficult to get people in this country
01:22:15.800 off of the liberal conservative liberal conservative teeter-totter i don't want to
01:22:21.680 bring the ndp into it because that's if you want to talk about marxist that's marxist but i mean
01:22:27.500 why is it so difficult to get people to look at something else like maybe max's party has got some
01:22:33.240 i like his policies you know i've had him on the show a couple of times i like max himself i think
01:22:38.260 he's probably the the greatest benefit of that party and also its greatest detriment which is
01:22:43.080 kind of a weird position to be in but why are people so you can't talk to them about these
01:22:48.600 things is it like a lifelong affiliation or something like what is the problem here people
01:22:53.320 see that there's issues that this country faces and yet they still refuse to try something new
01:23:00.100 yeah well before i answer that question i just want to go back to the very very beginning of
01:23:05.200 the show where you said that um a few of our counselors didn't look like they were woke well
01:23:10.160 Mara Nagy actually ran for the NDP party so you were just talking about Marxists so I mean there
01:23:16.400 you go that's exactly where she stands um as of for you know the voting and not voting for these
01:23:23.540 new parties well I mean they've created a hydra right it's just a hydra it's one monster with
01:23:29.160 like three different heads your conservative your liberals your NDPs right it's for the Green Party
01:23:33.520 and there's somewhere wherever you like but people are afraid of splitting the vote I mean that's
01:23:38.360 what that's what's always happened because that's what the media has told them is going to happen
01:23:43.760 right it's the same with covid like you know when you hear things over and over and over again
01:23:49.120 that seems to become truth even though it's not the truth but because people have been programmed
01:23:54.860 to thinking this way all this time they don't know any better so they feel like well if i vote for
01:24:01.120 you know the ontario party well you know the liberals are just going to get in because i'm
01:24:06.740 to split the vote so unfortunately with that way of thinking nothing in this country is ever going
01:24:12.200 to change we change it that i really don't know i mean you just you have to do with what's in your
01:24:21.540 heart if everybody could just you know do what they thought was right and trust that everybody
01:24:27.740 else is going to do what's right if people know the difference between right and wrong
01:24:32.620 then you know what I think we would see a very quick change in this in this country and where
01:24:39.840 it is heading absolutely but it's just to get that that out there to people like you know someone
01:24:45.420 should be running a campaign you know it's just like you know on on what is right this is right
01:24:51.700 that is wrong like you know where where do your morals sit where does your integrity sit if you
01:24:56.720 believe in in being right like righteous and you know you believe that you know there's a way out
01:25:03.500 of this and you've just voted basically with your heart and with your beliefs and your morals and
01:25:08.500 your integrity then you know what we can change this but thank you thank you i'm sorry go ahead
01:25:17.080 keep going i like people are afraid like you know if people just knew like you know that it's all
01:25:23.300 smoke and mirrors this is all smoke and mirrors it is a hydra it doesn't really matter who's in
01:25:28.740 power like you said you know pierre polyev i would love to run underneath him but again where was he
01:25:35.760 at the beginning of all of this why was he not standing up and you look at all of these people
01:25:40.920 that are like you know they're starting to run in the nominations right now to get in with the
01:25:45.000 conservative party or the and it's like well where have any of you been where have any of you been
01:25:52.100 None of you have stood up behind me. It's like, you know, anybody who's trying to run for the nomination in this area, they've all been afraid to get up and speak and help me and stand behind me. So what kind of a leader would they be under the Conservative Party? If they can't speak up now, then you know what? You shouldn't be a leader. You should not be a leader. And you know what? You should not be getting into politics because you know what? You're going to be the same as every other person out there.
01:26:19.340 and that that's what's scary right now right you can't so i have a very hard time trusting anybody
01:26:25.600 now especially if somebody wants to run because for the conservative party because i'm like
01:26:29.700 where have you been for the last four or five years why have you not spoken out against like
01:26:34.520 you know children being put into like you know universal rooms where like you know grown men
01:26:39.020 are in their naked like where have you been on these other topics about what's happening in our
01:26:44.460 school system with the soji program right where were you for the march for children you know where 0.99
01:26:51.120 were you for this where were you for that nobody is standing up so if you don't have the balls to 0.95
01:26:56.260 stand up now and you haven't had in the last four years and you have no right pretending to be a 0.85
01:27:02.300 conservative and run as a conservative representative in the next election that's just my opinion
01:27:08.480 would yeah would you consider coming back on the show we'd love to have you back
01:27:13.060 any time I could speak for hours and hours I've got I mean we haven't even started talking about
01:27:20.460 the corruption that I've seen you know how I've been told not to to fill out my statements of
01:27:26.660 disclosure for gifts and benefits that I receive I mean there is so much corruption and coercion
01:27:33.740 and collusion just to name a few things that is happening at the city of Peckering and if it's
01:27:39.900 happening here it's happening everywhere and that's why you're on we will talk about corruption
01:27:46.120 i'll write it down absolutely corruption thanks lisa for coming on today we'll talk to you again
01:27:54.520 real soon well thank you so much for having me and thank you so much for your listeners out there and
01:27:58.940 all the everything kind that they say i really appreciate it and thank you very much for you
01:28:03.640 know playing my video the other night and again clips of it today i really appreciate it thank
01:28:09.280 you thank you for that video it was amazing and we will have you back on wonderful we'll see you
01:28:14.300 soon bye there's bye there is lisa robinson city councillor for the city of pickering ontario i
01:28:21.440 love her honesty and i love her bravery and her commitment i mean we need more people like that
01:28:28.780 we need more people like that and then we could get back on the right track you know interestingly
01:28:37.540 we keep saying we're not going to be able to vote our way out of this
01:28:41.300 and maybe we can but we just need people like that and maybe we need to do with uh do away
01:28:50.360 with political parties because all they do is toe the party line
01:28:55.940 that is it for social media tonight you guys uh really enjoyed this one tonight we have
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01:29:15.560 i'll see you there in two minutes if not i catch you tomorrow night eight o'clock central for
01:29:19.900 another shadow at night live stream i love you all i appreciate you all and i will talk to you
01:29:24.820 again very soon bye for now
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