00:12:54.620And if you scroll down further, you'll come to the schedule of the event.
00:13:00.040And this is where we get into, oh, sorry, right there, what he's showing right now in the pink ribbon, that's where you can buy your tickets.
00:13:06.000You click on that icon that says Stronger Together Conference, and it will take you to Eventbrite.
00:13:10.960And there you can buy the ticket with a debit card, credit card, whatever that you want.
00:13:14.480But getting into the conference schedule, this is a really neat conference.
00:13:18.540So we have six panels, discussion panels.
00:13:22.460And what this is, is the stage is going to be set up in a semicircular pattern.
00:13:26.600We have these panels that will talk about various items.
00:13:30.340And panel one, which is on your screen right now, is called reclaiming our education system.
00:13:36.240And you'll notice there it's moderated by shadow.
00:13:38.380But if you click on where it says reclaiming our education system, it will open up another panel on that on the blue where.
00:13:46.100Yeah. Right up there where it says reclaiming. Yeah. Click on that. All right.
00:13:50.880And it will take you to. There you go. And it will take you to a new window that tells you exactly what that's about.
00:13:56.980And if you scroll down on that, you'll see there's a there's a description of the panel and then it gives the panel members.
00:14:04.960you should be able to scroll right on the image itself yeah no no no yeah i don't know what kind
00:14:11.060of i just got a white x there oh okay so you got a regular mouse oh it's not working we tried this
00:14:18.540before remember the last time you were on we tried this last week it didn't work on this i yeah but
00:14:21.980i've got a million different windows open right now because i've got extra show later on so um
00:14:28.180it's probably that my computer is probably at its capacity but i understand what you're saying you
00:14:32.900can click on all of the uh the blue uh hyperlinks here to see exactly what the panels are what's
00:14:40.780going to be involved who's going to be on them and so there are each one of those panels is a 45
00:14:45.780minute length and um and on each 45 minute panel so the total time is 45 minutes we've got a few
00:14:54.060minutes at the beginning for an introduction when you're there and then the each of the panelists
00:14:58.020who has an opportunity for just a few minutes to tell you who they are and what their expertise is
00:15:02.860and then shadow and the and the uh participants are going to enter into a conversation and you've
00:15:10.320got all kinds of different people from right across the country in these in these panels
00:15:15.340we didn't go to hollywood or washington dc to get you uh people who have been on phil donahue show
00:15:22.700what we've got you is people from canada phil donahue what what year is this man
00:15:27.700you know i get myself into trouble so much with that you know because i don't watch tv anymore
00:15:37.760rosalie and i are watching uh rosalie and i are watching at dinner time the uh dick van dyke show
00:15:45.480just to show you where we're at on uh on television so each of these panels you're
00:15:52.760going to have about a 40 30 40 minute discussion they're going to cover all kinds of things like
00:15:57.940an education panel we have not just people from across the country but people from different
00:16:02.880groups they are representing what they're going to talk about and then there'll be about a 20
00:16:07.620minute session at the end of each panel where the where the audience can can engage and have
00:16:13.540questions and answers and and that's on all six of the panels so we've got an education panel
00:16:20.340we've got a litigation panel we have a media panel we have a panel on building resilient
00:16:25.440communities and activism we have a panel on safeguarding our food supply and then panel
00:16:30.660six on sunday morning around noontime is it's an intimate conversation with a bunch of different
00:16:36.660uh people from from across canada we've got david lease on there we've got grant abraham
00:16:41.400myself on there and we're going to have a conversation about what's going on politically
00:16:45.500in the country now as if that's as if that's not enough we also have a feature called frontline
00:16:52.240perspectives and that's on saturday morning it's the second event of the of the week and frontline
00:16:58.000perspectives i get myself in trouble all the time but it's really speed dating and what that means
00:17:03.600is you got 10 different freedom leaders from across the country they're coming in and each
00:17:08.900has 10 minutes on the stage they're going to tell you about themselves what's going on what does
00:17:13.240organization do? How can they help you? How can you help them? How can you get involved with them?
00:17:17.580And then the next one. So there's going to be 10 of them. And so it's an opportunity for you to get
00:17:22.200a snapshot of what other groups are doing all over the country. And we have a large contingent
00:17:27.900of folks from Quebec. We have a bunch of people from the Maritimes coming, Ontario, Saskatchewan,
00:17:32.740Manitoba, Alberta, a lot of people from the island, Vancouver Island, actually in BC. So
00:17:37.300you're going to get a cross section of what's going on in Canada. You're going to be able to
00:17:41.520meet these folks you're going to be able to talk to them you'll be able to exchange information
00:17:45.680with them now you know it's interesting because ken there are so many people and i know you get
00:17:51.060this all the time i get this all the time i think maggie probably gets this all the time as well
00:17:55.740people who are very concerned about what's happening not just in our country but worldwide
00:18:00.960because this is definitely a global thing and they want to know what they can do yep and and
00:18:06.880sometimes I'm hard-pressed to give them an answer.
00:18:10.600You have to go through and you have to have this conversation.
00:18:13.160You go, what are you most interested in?
00:18:15.180There are so many different facets to this whole thing,
00:18:17.920and it looks like you've got many of those facets covered
00:18:29.000but we were going city to city or town to town in Manitoba
00:18:33.420through the fall last year, summer, fall, and the winter,
00:18:35.980and I remember we were in Dauphin and we'd put on a presentation about what people could do and
00:18:40.800and you know I thought the presentation was over and Chad if I talked to you you would have
00:18:45.940advised me that the presentation is never over but this lady came up to me a little old lady
00:18:51.240and I'm a little old man so I could say that and she came up to me after the presentation she said
00:18:55.780Mr. Drysdale you know I can't use computers and my knees don't work so good anymore so I can't go
00:19:02.160out and bang on doors and I can't do this and I can't do that so I don't know what I could do to
00:19:06.180help and what I didn't know is a whole bunch of people were listening and I said to her I bet you
00:19:12.480know how to bake cinnamon buns as a matter of fact I think you probably bake the best cinnamon
00:19:16.600buns in Dauphin don't you and she perks all up and she says yeah and I said I tell you what
00:19:21.280next time we have a town hall meeting you let everybody know you're bringing your homemade
00:19:26.260cinnamon buns I bet you we doubled the attendance and the point of that story and it's a true story
00:19:31.120is that everybody has a role to play. Everybody. Down through history, you know, everybody has a
00:19:38.200role to play. There's something you can do. And this conference is a good example. You know,
00:19:41.860we've got dozens of volunteers working on this from people who are making phone calls, people
00:19:46.980that are moving chairs around, people that are sitting on the registration desk, people who
00:19:52.060phone me up, and you know one of them, who phones me up pretty much every day and tells me what I've
00:19:56.380messed up on or haven't done this week or something. So there's a role for everybody.
00:20:00.980Everybody has a role to play. You know, it's like the old story, Shadow, about the loaves and the
00:20:06.200fishes, right? Everybody knows about Jesus. Everybody knows about the kid with the loaves
00:20:11.080and the fishes. But who packed that lunch? If it wasn't for the person at home, probably the boy's
00:20:16.060mother who packed that lunch. None of that would have happened. And it's the same thing here. So
00:20:19.780there's stuff to do there's stuff for everyone to do and you need to find an organization because
00:20:27.620there's thousands of organizations now in canada that are fighting towards a freer canada and you
00:20:34.260need to find one that mostly fits with what you believe there's there's many of them it's like
00:20:39.500going to a different hamburger place you know they all sell hamburgers but maybe you don't like
00:20:42.680mcdonald's hamburgers maybe you want to go to mr dj's or something and get a hamburger and it's
00:20:46.840You know, what's what's interesting, Ken, too, is that some people will say, well, you know, I'm only just making the sandwiches.
00:20:53.040It's not like really an important job. The way I look at it, whether I'm speaking on the stage or whether I'm taking the garbage out, it doesn't matter to me.
00:21:01.900I'm going to be treating everybody the same way, you know, welcoming. And I'm so happy that you're here.
00:21:08.520We have a last-minute addition to the roster of the conference, and here she is, Maggie Hope Braun, who has been traveling the country.
00:21:17.500She has been trying to get rid of the U.N. Ickley scourge all across municipalities in the country.
00:21:26.080When you and I first spoke, I think it was last year, maybe just 14 months ago or so, you seemed unsure of what it was you were doing.
00:21:35.840And I could tell from your demeanor and a little bit of your language that you were like, well, you know, I'm doing this, but I don't really know.
00:21:43.980And now you are so much more knowledgeable and confident in the way you present what you're doing.
00:21:51.800It's just amazing to me to see what you have been doing, the education that you've been giving to people,
00:21:57.740and that you continue to go and travel and wake people up all across this country.
00:22:02.380because i personally believe that your mission amongst all of them is probably the most important
00:22:07.440because it happens at the local level so thank you for doing what you're doing and and putting
00:22:12.880on that show every friday night the kickly uh live show that you've been doing and bringing
00:22:17.980more and more people into the fold were you concerned like because ken has been saying you
00:22:23.240know everybody's got a job to do were you wondering what your job was until you just decided to start
00:22:29.420doing this well you know when you bring it back to our first interview you asked me uh do i think
00:22:37.580that there's a political solution to this problem and i said i think that there's a people solution
00:22:43.860to this problem and when we look at that you know part of the reason why you know i it's such a big
00:22:51.160problem and when we think about what we need to do about bringing all the people together and
00:22:55.980getting us focused and determining our missions and and getting the different groups to work
00:23:01.300together and and we talked about it that night wouldn't it be great if we just brought the
00:23:06.060people together and held a big conference and here we are doing exactly that and i'm so excited
00:23:12.080about that so yeah we're happy to have you coming out like when ken told me that you were confirmed
00:23:18.100i was very happy because i'd heard rumblings i think last week and i thought oh maggie's coming
00:23:23.340know that's going to be a good one so ken thank you for uh making this happen thank you maggie
00:23:27.880because you guys when you get a chance to actually sit and listen and they're at there there's some
00:23:33.060videos out there of you making presentations maggie at different city councils across the country
00:23:37.580um and and explaining to these people exactly what is going on right in their own municipality
00:23:45.460right in their own jurisdiction and the looks on their faces is hilarious if it wasn't so serious
00:23:52.040It would be absolutely comical, like they have no clue what is going on.
00:23:57.760Is that still the case, or are you finding that more and more people are finally starting
00:27:23.280Do these organizations, Maggie, like the Partners for Climate Protection or ICLEI, do they disguise themselves?
00:27:30.840are they like hiding in plain sight here or is it some kind of clandestine organization that
00:27:36.780you know has got a building or office in a building with no sign and like who are these
00:27:42.940people where are they so it's fascinating because in thorold the municipality that opted out
00:27:49.280yesterday they had they requested that icly come and speak and do a presentation and tell them about
00:27:55.620their program. Nobody showed up from ICLEI. A couple of representatives came from the FCM
00:28:02.220and they basically denied affiliation with ICLEI, even though on the PCP's website,
00:28:09.860it shows that there is more ICLEI staff on the leadership team than there are Federation of
00:28:16.420Canadian Municipalities. And the joining resolution says that it's the FCM ICLEI Partners for Climate
00:28:23.120Protection Program. So that was interesting. And we have clipped that 10 minute presentation,
00:28:29.380and they wouldn't answer any questions. And at the time, I was in Victoria, BC. And we were going
00:28:36.320down to the town hall to ask questions about their climate initiatives. And I had looked on
00:28:43.340their website, and I saw on ICLEE's website, it said that one of their headquarters was at the
00:28:49.060town hall in victoria bc so we went in there and we asked we'd like to speak to the representatives
00:28:55.100of icly nobody knew who icly was in the in the entire building nobody knows who icly is
00:29:02.980i sent them a i had all my questions prepared i sent an email to the head icly person
00:29:10.020no response you know sent a follow-up the federation the representatives of the
00:29:15.420federation of municipalities denied any affiliation with ickley even though you had absolute proof of
00:29:21.900it they they skirted around the question they just said well we don't work for ickley or where
00:29:27.980we're here from the fcm representing the fcm we can't speak for ickley so nobody knows who ickley
00:29:34.380is do you think that they're actually being honest with that answer or were they being a little bit
00:29:40.300you know like could you tell they were being dishonest with that answer and what's interesting
00:29:46.600in thorold when this motion to adopt the program came in last january it came in through a staff
00:29:54.240member who was their planner and um i won't say her name it doesn't matter but when i look at
00:30:00.340icly's website they have workshop videos and she's she's on there as a member of icly so she's
00:30:08.840an ICLEI member who's also a staff who's trying to bring forward the program and she's since left
00:30:16.700because there was pushback right and so has their clerk because there was they didn't get what they
00:30:23.860wanted that the council actually asked questions you know the most basic question the program says
00:30:31.680that it's free what's the catch that was all it took to get this ball rolling you know i tell
00:30:40.800people all the time because you know we heard donald trump years ago and maybe this is what
00:30:45.760started that ball rolling when he started talking about deep state when he said deep state i had no
00:30:50.020idea what he meant right the shadow government that actually controls what really happens within
00:30:56.260government the voted you know the the elected uh politicians they're just sitting there rubber
00:31:03.380stamping stuff as all of these policies go through as a matter of fact here at the city of winnipeg
00:31:09.140there was a revelation and maybe ken you heard this one it was in all of the local media well
00:31:14.660some of the local media because the other left-wing media refused to cover it that the politicians
00:31:20.420at the city of winnipeg level did not know that the bureaucrats who were working the city managers
00:31:27.620were not holding any personnel reviews of any of the employees on staff for the city of winnipeg
00:31:35.160and that's been going on for the past eight years and none of the elected representatives knew
00:31:40.980anything about that because nobody was saying anything and if something like that is not
00:31:46.980addressed by a city council can you imagine and that was all accidental in my opinion from
00:31:51.940everything that i've heard from people um so if something like that that is that obvious is not
00:31:58.080being noticed by elected representatives in our councils then something subversive like this
00:32:03.760where people are actually trying to hide what they're really doing is never going to get
00:32:08.380noticed unless people like you and me and everybody watching can uncovers it what kind of pushback
00:32:15.480have you had maggie have you had people like threaten you has there been any kind of
00:32:20.520i think i think it's the same that's happened to a lot of us you know there's a a lot of um
00:32:26.600defamation happening behind the scenes there's a lot of um discouragement of the thinkers
00:32:33.440getting together and actually having a conversation and working things out and having these debates
00:32:38.860which is why i'm so proud of us and happy and grateful to ken and other organizers who are
00:32:44.280doing this across the country um just bringing us together we've we've overcome that um i think
00:32:51.280that the tactics that uh you know the whoever's behind this icly and and others um what they use
00:33:01.500is fear and psychological warfare you know for instance yesterday went so well and then i got
00:33:07.460there and I wasn't on the agenda, even though I had been confirmed. And then it kind of had me
00:33:14.380and the other delegates and a bit of like, what's going on state? And I was just like, don't worry,
00:33:18.900don't worry, everyone just sit down. And it'll work out. And sure enough, it all worked out,
00:33:24.260we just need to trust that we're doing the right thing. And, and, and just stay calm,
00:33:30.300and everything will just move out of the way for us to win, because we're on the right side,
00:33:35.320We have the facts. We're getting our messaging right now. And everyone I talk to in this country, for the most part, can be reasoned with to some level, especially if we can, you know, talk about localism over globalism.
00:33:49.260And, you know, do we want international lobbyists to, you know, have a say in how we manage our land? And I could just go on and on.
00:34:11.500I mean, Maggie, and I want to talk in general terms
00:34:15.340about what a person can expect to see when they –
00:34:19.280because you're going to have a whole bunch of people here.
00:34:20.860They're going to go look at the ICLEI website, and I've got it up.
00:34:23.120I have a second screen here, and I've got it up.
00:34:24.920And if you look on the home of ICLEI and you look about what they're doing, it's all really good stuff. If you just read what they say, they're talking about sustainability and all of these kinds of stuff.
00:34:36.780So I guess it's true that you have to look a little bit further. Like you have to look at the C40 plan for cities, for instance.
00:34:46.380And I think when you start to look at that and people start to understand what these folks are pushing for and and have you have you taken a look at or Maggie, and I know you're putting you on the spot here, but have you looked at the UNC 40 agenda and saw what things they're talking about on that for 2030?
00:35:05.880i won't say i've delved into the c40 i i have a pretty good understanding of of what it's about
00:35:13.800but you know what once you see the pattern you know what they're aiming for when you talk about
00:35:19.360you know their it looks pretty good when you look at their website i think it's important for us to
00:35:25.420take back some of that language and show them how we can do this better and you know instead of
00:35:31.580sustainable development maybe we can talk about holistic development and true local environmental
00:35:38.280stewardship and um and so on so uh yeah we want to if you look at the kickley website
00:35:46.660we've actually made it look exactly like the ickley website
00:35:50.560good thinking good thinking yeah i haven't done that is that a dot ca dot ca yeah we're having
00:36:02.240fun with it kickly dot ca you know i remember when we were in the nci and we were in truro there was
00:36:08.240a lady there that was putting certain types of stickers on her own personal car that made her
00:36:14.400look like a health official although it said you know ask me right and the police went after her
00:36:20.260and she was handing out you know she she wasn't impersonating anybody but it looked like it
00:36:26.340she was handing out all kinds of information trying to to to show people what was going on
00:36:31.240but you know i want to get back to this thing because what's behind this or the are the things
00:36:35.840like when a when a regular person like like like like myself goes on to the icly website is talking
00:36:42.020about these grand oios plans and sustainability and maintainability and all this stuff but when
00:36:47.760you dig down into it and i'm looking at i've got you again at a disadvantage i'm looking at the c
00:36:52.420the wef um c40 plan for cities and people have to realize they actually have got it right in front
00:36:59.560of me and it's talking about by 2030 they want you to reduce by 39 the number of new clothing items
00:37:09.180you can buy in a year clothing items yeah by 2030 they want you to reduce the amount of meat you eat
00:37:16.640by 36 percent they want you yeah they're already talking about that now it's starting to come up
00:37:24.220in conversation yeah i mean it's right down to they want us to reduce car ownership by 28 percent
00:37:31.640they want us to reduce um uh uh uh let's see just looking here flights 26 by 2030 i wonder if that
00:37:41.580i wonder if that includes the private jets going to switzerland every year for the for the conference
00:37:46.880no no they're allowed to network this is the c40 map yeah i'll notice winnipeg's not on there
00:37:55.100this is the c um well look not yet winnipeg still exists in 1979 here but look at all of the
00:38:02.720portland seattle vancouver's on there chicago toronto's on there montreal is on there boston
00:38:09.880pretty much all of the world's major cities are already listed on this website when we're talking
00:38:15.920about land use you know i mean maggie this is probably how you've been able to wake a lot of
00:38:22.720people up right when you ask well why does a municipality want to reduce the the amount of
00:38:29.940land you can use for cattle grazing or the amount of water you can have on your land or why would
00:38:35.300they even uh care about you building a house on your back 40 that can only uh sustain two people
00:38:42.740right like all of these different kinds of things and when you ask those questions to these people
00:38:48.980is that when they like what kinds of points do you make with these people in order to wake them up
00:38:54.460well it's a great question and thank you ken for talking about the cities i've looked at this a
00:39:02.060little bit more strategically. And here in Canada, we are a very large nation. We have a lot of land.
00:39:09.640I don't know how many cities we have in Canada, maybe 10, 12 big ones. I'm not sure.
00:39:18.880They're trying to pack all of us into the cities. They want us off the land. And when I look at
00:39:26.180canada and i look at all these town halls and i know okay if we can get the um these international
00:39:33.900lobbyists out of the rural municipalities that means we can take back the majority of our country
00:39:41.820territorially speaking and um the cities everyone wants to work on the cities and i think that that
00:39:49.140is great but we have to realize that this is a bigger game and there's a chess board on the
00:39:55.260table. And do you go straight for the king? No, you take one at a time and do one move at a time
00:40:02.720until that domino starts to fall. And then other ones will just back off, right? And when it comes
00:40:11.120to the cities, yeah, these reduction targets, they are getting the municipalities to adopt
00:40:19.160these reduction targets so that's part of the pcp program and um and then i'm sorry to interrupt
00:40:27.780you have you noticed a lot of there's been a lot of online talk about these new sensors going up
00:40:36.140all across cities in the country and some people are saying well that's just a hoax that yeah now
00:40:41.880i and these are people who know what's going on where they're saying no that's not real that's
00:40:46.860just a picture of what looks like something menacing but yesterday even the cbc published
00:40:52.160a report about uh ai uh facial recognition cameras going up in a park in kitchener and they're
00:41:00.260claiming well we just want to see who's using the park and when and so the cbc went along with it
00:41:05.860hook line and sinker are you hearing a lot more stories like that coming out of cities yes we are
00:41:11.520there was a QR code on the island in Quebec that came out as well. The military exercises
00:41:19.740in another municipality. So these are all things that we're covering now on the Kickley YouTube
00:41:26.020channel. We have at least once a week, we cover one of these local news items because they like
00:41:34.560to beta test things in in one town first and that to see the reaction and to normalize these things
00:41:43.100so our our Canadian current channel covers covers that and about the sensors too they're they're
00:41:51.480also tracking how many cars are on the street how much we're traveling in our vehicles how many
00:41:59.880kilometers traveled within a community how much gas is being uh purchased within a community
00:42:05.880this is all the things that the pcp program looks at um they are looking at our waste uh they're
00:42:12.580at the time of pickup how full is that is that bin what are the contents of the bin um what
00:42:19.920percentage is is food waste and and rubber and plastic and and everything like breaking it right
00:42:26.780down. And their goal is to reduce this, you know, by around 50% by 2030 and 100% by 2050. What does
00:42:39.260that mean? 100% by 2050. So, you know, we're looking at these graphs of our municipalities,
00:42:48.740what they're putting out, and 50% of that is our private vehicles. Here in Canada, we need our
00:42:54.900vehicles to get around. We're a cold country and this is not a practical program for Canadians
00:43:02.180here. We need to heat our homes. We need to drive to work. We want to take a vacation once a year
00:43:06.980and everything that we're using fossil fuels for are essential needs for Canadians in my opinion.
00:43:16.080Do we have a 15-minute city already set up in this country that you're aware of?
00:43:21.860I believe so. I believe that they've put these districts in quite a long time ago. Here where I am in Peterborough, I can basically get everything I need within 15 minutes here. I believe it's all set.
00:43:34.020I won't say, you know, as a matter of convenience, I think when it comes to development, it's something to look at to make things more convenient.
00:43:45.760The trouble comes when it comes along with we want to reduce travel, private vehicle travel by 50 percent in the next couple of years.
00:43:56.640Right. So we want to be balanced in how we approach that.
00:44:00.820so we're not against everything we're just against the the restrictions that are going to
00:44:06.560come along with it so right right ken and and you know those restrictions are again i want to make
00:44:14.120sure that folks understand what they're talking about you know these the c40 or the or the 15
00:44:20.560minute cities whatever you want to call them they're talking about by 2030 each canadian
00:44:26.860citizen will be restricted i'm not making this up folks each canadian citizen will be restricted to
00:44:32.400buying only six new items of clothing a year and if they get their way that's what they call their
00:44:38.780flexible or their progressive uh option they're really shooting for what they're they're saying
00:44:44.880where canadians can't own can't purchase more than three articles of clothing a year new
00:44:50.020and it's in the c40 plan ever ever since they signed on to agenda 21 in 1992 they have been
00:45:00.060passing legislation targeting our our consumption and and aligning with the sustainable development
00:45:10.340goals of the united nations i remember in maybe around 2010 just before i i ran um for the federal
00:45:17.220election they passed a bill and it was a consumer safety bill and it it gives the government the
00:45:26.060ability to come into our homes and check what we have in our homes as far as our um our product
00:45:35.580what we have as far as products and our consumption so it's already on the books a lot of this is
00:45:40.680already there just waiting to be utilized which is something we got to turn around and push back
00:45:47.520on well you know shadow i'm looking at page 90 of the of the c40 report from the un and it's called
00:45:53.800aviation consumption it says by 2030 you have to reduce the number of flights taken by citizens to
00:46:00.740one short haul flight every two years per person that's their target for us one short haul airline
00:46:10.400flight for a citizen in canada every two years it's on page 90 of the unc 40 report got it right
00:46:16.920in front of me right on their website is it on the un website or c40 website right now well actually
00:46:23.280i downloaded the pdf which i could send you if you'd like that's all right don't worry about it
00:46:28.320i i believe you we all believe you can't we all believe you
00:46:31.560all we gotta do is go find it ourselves i don't think folks understand you know they think it's
00:46:38.540just about uh getting better mileage on their car or putting another layer insulation on their house
00:46:43.960but that's not what it is they want to reach right in and tell you can't eat meat you can't go to see
00:46:49.360grandma in peterboro you can't fly to florida while they're all flying in private jets and
00:46:54.620doing whatever the heck they want so how do we see this enforcement rolling out if in fact they
00:46:59.520ever have to get to that point or are they just going to take it away from us you can't buy meat
00:47:04.000in stores anymore and i know that they're already trying to restrict uh the types of cars in terms
00:47:10.620of combustion engines that we can buy year by year by year uh danielle smith in alberta has
00:47:17.000been pushing back against that but yet there is still you know it's funny every sunday in my
00:47:22.660neighborhood here in winnipeg there is a classic car meeting and they start about five o'clock and
00:47:30.480i can hear them from here they're blocks and blocks and blocks away but all of these classic
00:47:36.960beautiful cars from the 1950s and 1960s gas guzzling cars right if i were to walk into that
00:47:43.600crowd of hundreds of people and say hey hey good luck trying to drive these things in two or three
00:47:48.000years time the cops are going to arrest you all for pollution uh they might just laugh me right
00:47:53.440out of the place right so how but they would be the perfect target to talk to these guys and say
00:47:59.440hey look they're going to try and take your cars away from you i wonder i wonder if they will and
00:48:05.180how will these guys react to it i i think what they're doing is making it more expensive to buy
00:48:12.720meat and to buy real and um animal products when i went to the store just the other day i went in
00:48:19.680to get some butter and i looked and i couldn't believe the price and then i i was looking for
00:48:25.220the the what was the cheapest one and i looked and i was about to grab it and it was plant-based
00:48:30.860so so i was like oh i well i want real butter for for this recipe you know and um and then
00:48:39.300they're also here in ontario i don't know the exact details but they're making it so that
00:48:44.640i believe we will have to have our vehicles safety inspected every year now whereas before it wasn't
00:48:53.920it was when you sold it or something like that. Um, so they're, they're just going to crack down
00:49:00.120and make vehicle ownership expensive. And, um, the other thing I noticed that they're doing is
00:49:06.220they're not fixing the roads. They're paving, they're making bike lanes, they're paving in
00:49:11.420the bike lanes and they're leaving the roads just absolutely unmaintained. Um, they're making it so
00:49:17.720you can't park downtown. They keep changing the parking meter. So now you need to get a nap and
00:49:22.440now you can't park here and like their their parking enforcement people are out everywhere
00:49:27.700so no one wants to park downtown anymore and these like they create all these these annoying
00:49:34.660policies and um and of course just try to drive our behavior that's exactly what they're trying
00:49:40.760to do right but the interesting thing the last time that you were on maggie and and for those
00:49:45.560of you who didn't see the last time that maggie was was on the show you said there is a simple
00:49:51.020fix to this like like you had the success in thorough last night there is one document i
00:49:57.720believe that and that's it that you need to get the city council to sign get behind and that will
00:50:03.460completely undo all of all of these things that they have put in place since 1992 correct
00:50:10.100one piece of paper the joining resolution to these un directive programs and it's not it's
00:50:16.980probably not the one we have to not not the only one we have to research in our communities we have
00:50:21.700to dig down and ask questions and and find what it is that started to bring it all in in the first
00:50:28.840place and um i love that saying and it's a joining resolution for the partners for climate protection
00:50:35.580program is the one i'm going for um and and there's i think you said the last time you were
00:50:43.880on i'm sorry to interrupt you maggie the last time you were on you said every single municipality
00:50:47.780that's part of this has signed that document and so you've got to go looking through a pile of paper
00:50:52.900or computer records to find it but it's there it's going to be there you don't even have to
00:50:59.060shadow if your municipality is signed on to the program it's listed on the partners for climate
00:51:04.800protection program website as a member you call your clerk and you ask them for the joining
00:51:10.360resolution and then once you have that you just start asking questions you get to know the staff
00:51:16.080they're not all bad um and it's their job to facilitate your this work and um they're not all
00:51:23.100bad they're not all gonna be coming after you with baseball bats when you walk through the door right
00:51:29.300okay yeah no but it was actually the work that we did in thorold was to the point that when we went
00:51:37.440in last night we went in because the staff recommended that they opt out and so we were
00:51:45.820there supporting the staff's motion to opt out so it was all the behind the scenes work and there
00:51:51.800are good staff members on there who are reasonable and they put forward the motion and they had to
00:51:57.040field questions from the bad actors on the council too you know are you denying climate change and
00:52:05.080he's like and he had to hold his ground too with us so it's pretty good you know there's good people
00:52:11.560out there and um they'll go right to that right for the throat immediately are you denying climate
00:52:18.560change i mean you just so badly want to say yes i am but if you do that gives them the weapon they
00:52:26.560need to vilify you before you can get anything worthwhile done right in my opinion they are
00:52:32.940denying climate change. They are the ones denying that the climate has always changed. And we're
00:52:39.740currently in an interglacial period. And it's every interglacial period has always been one to
00:52:47.800two degrees warmer than it is today. So the Paris Accord, this agreement that somehow by reducing
00:52:54.900our emissions, we're going to limit the global temperature increase and do the absolute
00:53:01.060impossible, which has never been done in our geological history, is something that should
00:53:06.280be pointed out respectfully. And you do speak with some authority on this topic, don't you?
00:53:13.320Trying. The other series that we're doing is Climate Science 101. So every week we put out
00:53:21.380a Canadian Current and another article, and they're both designed to be pieces, articles,
00:53:28.160and videos with lots of references to back it up that we can share with our local councils in our
00:53:35.020community because we need to get better at um education and public awareness and providing
00:53:40.920information for decision making because that's exactly what icly is doing so we need to counter
00:53:49.200them right yeah maybe we'll start in boses your next week they can well we look after the conference
00:53:59.820when everybody is is all up to speed on everything that maggie's been doing here with the kickley
00:54:05.040program then we can you know get the boses your residents to say let's try it here and see if we
00:54:08.960can get the city council here to to even understand what's going on first and then make them just get
00:54:13.760rid of that that paper and we're we're good to go maggie what are you uh getting on the plane
00:54:20.200is it tomorrow or friday friday friday morning yes excellent looking forward to seeing you out
00:54:26.600here at the stronger together conference this weekend uh it finally meeting you in person
00:54:30.840because we've spoken so many times like this it's going to be a great thrill too that's one of the
00:54:34.920other things about conferences like this you know ken and i have been talking about this and you
00:54:39.900have been like i said going uh from place to place all across the country meeting people that you've
00:54:45.480spoken to via zoom or conference calling and there there is something special about that isn't there
00:54:51.120actually getting to meet somebody in person it makes all the difference and you know we need to
00:54:57.520do what the other side is doing that's what i've been saying all along the fcm just had a trade show
00:55:03.560in in calgary and in my opinion the stronger together conference and conferences like it
00:55:10.840are our version of that fcm and it's so important that we get together and and meet in person and
00:55:18.560we have uh it deepens our connections and it it'll help us to share our solutions better and
00:55:25.140catch each other's enthusiasm and create memories because this is you know the rest of our life
00:55:31.680We're going to be, you know, having wins and seeing this country turn around and setting an example for the rest of the world.
00:55:40.800And in my opinion, you're all like family to me.
00:56:45.460We bought it for you, as you know, special.
00:56:48.280My wife told you when we saw it, and she bought it on the spot for you.
00:56:52.560So it's worth the price alone to see Shadow sitting in that big red chair.
00:56:58.620Okay, is there anything that we forgot to mention about the conference?
00:57:02.560Can people walk up if they haven't bought tickets in advance?
00:57:06.100Can people walk up and buy them just to come and say hello?
00:57:09.300Yes, people can walk up and get the brown bagger tickets.
00:57:13.100The reason we can't give you food is because we've got to let the caterers know ahead of time.
00:57:16.800So if you're walking up to the door, you can get the brown bag tickets.
00:57:19.620We take cash, credit card, debit card.
00:57:23.240And so I think we've got you covered no matter which way.
00:57:26.000but again you're taking a chance that there's going to be space because we are selling them
00:57:29.600out uh selling out the tickets now very quickly yeah yeah well you know winnipeg is a walk-up
00:57:34.720town this is something that i know from my experience working in radio here if there was
00:57:38.760a big concert you know i was telling ken this uh just yesterday i recall uh pearl jam or something
00:57:45.080in 1993 when i was working at city fm back when things were relatively normal and nobody knew
00:57:50.740about any of this stuff we're just kind of living our lives uh we were worried the promoters were
00:57:56.680worried that it wasn't going to sell out there was still three or four thousand tickets left
00:58:00.080for that show and then by the next day they had sold out and not only had they sold out
00:58:04.520but they actually had to expand the seating area to add more tickets so i think that winnipeg is
00:58:10.660still a lot like that i think manitoba is still a lot like that i think there's maybe been some
00:58:15.180people who are sitting on their hands up until now going hmm i don't know if i can afford it
00:58:20.360But seeing as how you have made these new types of tickets available, the brown bag, the do-it-yourself special, it's a little less expensive for people.
00:58:27.760I do know there's a chicken chef in Boz's here, Ken.
00:58:31.180You know, if people want to go and have some chicken or maybe Vicky's Drive-In or something, I know they have some great fries there and some good burgers so people can go and feed themselves and then come back to the conference.
00:58:41.720but i urge you guys to come on out and you know not just support but learn this is very and actually
00:58:49.580learn what your role may be going forward in this battle because this is a battle this is a war
00:58:56.080and i don't see how we lose you know dr brett weinstein or stein i can't remember exactly how
00:59:02.700to pronounce his last name he said something interesting on tucker carlson's show a couple
00:59:07.500of weeks ago, he said, you know, Goliath made a horrible mistake. And he said, well, I'm not
00:59:13.940absolutely convinced that we're going to win this thing in the end. I really like our chances.
00:59:22.820What are your thoughts on that, Ken? You know, it's up to the people. Shadow Davis,
00:59:27.720Ken Drysdale aren't going to save you. You've got to get up and you've got to do something.
00:59:32.460And of course, you're going to say to me, what are we going to do? Reach out to some of these
00:59:35.980organizations if you come to the conference you're going to have a firsthand opportunity to shake the
00:59:41.700hand of the leader of this group or that group you're going to find out what they're doing and
00:59:45.680you can decide do i want to be a part of this one or that one or how am i going to contribute so
00:59:50.940you can't say to me i don't know what i'm going to do and then just not come to something like
00:59:55.620this you know this is a first from manitoba you know i i've lived here all my life and people are
01:00:00.920always complaining we don't have anything we don't have this when something comes to town you have to
01:00:04.860take advantage of folks so if you don't know what to do you come to this conference and by sunday
01:00:10.100afternoon when we're over you'll have a darn good idea of what you want to do manitobastrongertogether.ca
01:00:16.960that's where you get your tickets that's where you get all of the information everything we showed
01:00:20.920you tonight everything ken and i have discussed not just tonight but over the past few weeks it's
01:00:25.800all available for you there we would like to see as many of these tickets sold as possible we want
01:00:31.060to see as many people as possible shake hands give some hugs give outs share some information
01:00:35.760meet some people uh this weekend at boz is your ken thank you very much for coming on tonight and
01:00:40.700i will see you in a couple of days my friend thanks for the opportunity my friend and i will
01:00:44.420see you on friday absolutely ken drysdale of the nci and of manitoba stronger together
01:00:50.500dot ca again that's where you go to get the information on the big stronger together
01:00:57.980conference coming up this weekend here in manitoba and i am absolutely thrilled to be a part of this
01:01:04.140and hopefully we get a chance to see you there guys we do have a couple of things to cover before
01:01:10.900we move actually no we don't we're going to move to the extension on shadowdavis.com in just a
01:01:19.420couple of minutes we have stories to cover including a couple of possible traders in the
01:01:25.900canadian government may have been leaked by the bureau.news we've been hearing that there are
01:01:34.280some people sitting in the senate some people sitting in the house of commons who have been
01:01:40.000working in conjunction with hostile foreign governments but the liberal government has yet
01:01:46.020to name names the bureau has released a couple of names and we're going to talk about those
01:01:52.760in the extension in just a couple of minutes.