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00:08:22.320every weeknight at eight o'clock central here is our friend carrie simpson from save our ostriches
00:08:28.860dot com hello carrie it's been a heck of a week i'm sure it has been like the longest week i think
00:08:35.280of my life. And I've had a few long weeks, Shadow, but it's ending well. You were on with Katie on
00:08:43.440Sunday night, both very concerned about what was going to happen. You went through the order and
00:08:49.580then the rescindment of the order and then the reestablishment of the order that came, I think,
00:08:54.340six days apart at the beginning of this month. And then it was a matter of getting the word out
00:09:00.380to as many people as you possibly could about what the heck is going on at universal ostrich farms
00:09:06.040have you been surprised at the incredible surge of support that you guys have received
00:09:12.140it has been overwhelming shadow i mean canadians are good and they rally but i think ironically
00:09:20.920one of the things that the covid times has taught canadians and that's how to pull together and get
00:09:26.860the job done. And in this case, there was, you know, this wall that the federal government was
00:09:34.500facing of people and it was getting bigger and bigger and bigger. And, you know, that didn't
00:09:40.500faze them. That didn't do anything. But I do think that the fact that when we were on in court today
00:09:48.380and that Zoom call was full of concerned Canadians, that sent a very clear message to the court
00:09:53.720anyway and clearly the the publicity and clearly you know we talked about this last time on your
00:10:00.060show you know the people powered grapevine where your viewers and and followers are concerned right
00:10:07.580and i think this has been this is a great story from a whole bunch of different angles it's
00:10:13.240what people can do when they come together and are focused and you know i have to say
00:10:18.020this team of people that pulled together crackerjack extraordinaries you know night and day
00:10:25.960these people were i mean you know four o'clock in the morning two o'clock in the morning getting
00:10:30.780social media pulling clips apart creating graphics you know writing letters putting together
00:10:38.400technology so people could just do one cook and click and blast every mp with just one letter you
00:10:44.080You know, there was some there's some hot shots involved in this.
00:10:49.500And, you know, like I say, for all of this to come together in a week.
00:10:53.540And then, of course, the amazing and wonderful support of people like yourself, Wayne Peters.
00:10:59.700I mean, the list goes on, you know, getting the information out and to audiences that actually do something, you know, quite often, you know, I say, well, the world is watching.
00:11:09.560In this case, the world was not only watching, they were doing something.
00:11:12.960and that was the difference right and so it's been just a privilege to watch this unfold and
00:11:21.380thankfully things went well today you have been involved in in a lot of this kind of thing
00:11:29.640rallying people that's what you do that's what you've been doing for 25 years in British Columbia
00:11:36.000and I'm not sure if you've ever done it in such a short period of time when did you
00:11:42.660first become involved with this we covered this briefly on sunday night but we didn't go into
00:11:47.680detail about it i mean you heard about this at the beginning of january right not not even that
00:11:52.480don't i wish that would have given me a little bit of lead time i shadow note you know i i get
00:11:59.620called upon often to help various um endeavors and issues and concerns and problems and such
00:12:07.220and uh when this one came i i was getting a lot of people saying carrie you have to help the
00:12:13.800ostriches the ostriches right and you know as i've said before i'm i'm very cautious let me
00:12:19.860stop you for a second i just when you first heard that when you very first heard that you got to
00:12:24.160help the ostriches you said what the hell are you even talking about my eyes did roll well you know
00:12:30.000what no i i knew i knew a little bit about uh the canadian food inspection agency because of the
00:12:36.660work I did to warn people about Trudeau hunting down every animal on every piece of property in
00:12:42.880Canada right so I had talked to the farmers I knew about the cullings and you know the the abuse of
00:12:50.260of the bureaucrats in this matter but you know I never in my wildest dreams believed it would be
00:12:56.180the ostriches that they would actually want to cull 400 ostriches and maybe that goes to how
00:13:04.580little intelligence there is because anyone would know that this is going to be a public relations
00:13:10.640nightmare for me it's going you know hallelujah it doesn't get better than this right but yeah
00:13:16.960um no i i did you know and of course you have to be careful you have to you know the the when i do
00:13:23.420help these people i put them through their paces because i'm not going to jeopardize the credibility
00:13:27.820that i have well you got to make sure that they're on the level right i mean that's that's the first
00:13:33.040thing so i got wind of this probably nine days ago when i first started it and then i literally
00:13:40.580spent a day and a half reviewing paperwork because the paperwork just started coming in because you
00:13:44.980need to see all the orders you need to see everything you're dealing with right um and
00:13:49.220then it was you know get in the gate and uh and you know that starter gun went off and we went fast
00:13:55.820because there isn't a whole bunch of time everything is stacked and rigged against the
00:14:01.240farmer or the person facing having to execute or slaughter their animals and you know time you
00:14:08.440don't have time you can't give proper notice because you don't even have that much notice
00:14:12.540sometimes like courts always want two weeks notice you have to serve the other side then
00:14:16.180they have to have time to respond all of that just you can't you can't you know do it that way right
00:14:24.520so how do you go about getting an emergency injunction like this in such a short period
00:14:30.360time i mean we you know what we've seen over the past four or five years now is these courts move
00:14:36.360so slow and for you guys to be able to get in there today the federal court you got in there
00:14:42.640today i mean like i think that is absolutely amazing what kind of pressure did you have to
00:14:46.580put on well starting the beginning of this week we notified the department of justice we said look
00:14:51.400we're we're doing battle here we're gonna fight this um and then we started you know trying to
00:14:58.620get in contact with the federal court. But I, you know, I'm not going to go into that now. But I
00:15:03.540think we have a lot of problems on the staffing front of our judiciary at this point, Chato,1.00
00:15:09.380because they didn't get back to us. They didn't tell us whether they had a judge. We did not
00:15:14.700know until this morning that we were rocking and rolling today, right? So you have to have your
00:15:20.160documents filed. So that, you know, that means people have to swear affidavits, then you have
00:15:26.900to have them scanned then you need copies to the other party you know this is no small
00:15:32.160endeavor when you launch a legal action let alone one this quickly um so it was it you know a judge
00:15:40.780made themselves available i think in this case we don't know all the background on it but clearly
00:15:46.720there was some special accommodation made for this by the federal court so um i have to say to you
00:15:53.480Because I've been hounding you all week, too, right?
00:15:58.540I gave you Monday, Tuesday, because I thought nothing's going to happen Monday, Tuesday.
00:16:01.980And finally, on Wednesday, it was like, and so?
00:16:04.540You did get back to me, to your credit, even as busy as you were.
00:16:08.380And yesterday, you said, we're going to be in court tomorrow, maybe the federal court,
00:16:13.560maybe the Supreme Court, depending on availability of judges.
00:16:16.920I mean, and this was about 2.30 or 3 o'clock yesterday afternoon, central time.
00:16:20.620And I thought, kind of cutting it close, not through any fault of yours.
00:16:25.040But, you know, that's that's, you know, the time frame that we had to work with.
00:16:30.020Right. I mean, you know, I had to find lawyers once the family came to me.
00:16:34.640I thought, you know, there's and then you don't have lawyers that have expertise in this shuttle, because as most people who've even tried to do anything on this front will tell you, it's there's there's no win.
00:16:47.780So right now we're sitting with this win, you know, high up representatives and some very large organizations affiliated with livestock, poultry and such is going, how the hell did you guys do this?
00:17:02.740Right. So this is not only a life saving win for those ostriches, it's a huge win for the farmers and the livestock producers across Canada.
00:17:14.000So, well, there were two reasons for the win in the in the court document that you sent me.
00:17:19.000And one of them was the uniqueness of the farm and the animals on it. Correct.
00:17:23.200Correct. And we also raised the jurisdictional question, a constitutional question as well.
00:17:27.620Right. And you think about it, you know, is who you know, we have the British Columbia Public Health Authority and then you have the Canadian Health Authority.
00:17:37.560You know, who's who who really rules this roost? Excuse the pun.
00:17:41.440um i know it just never ends when when all this is we're just gonna all sit down one night have
00:17:47.400this zoom when we probably have a little bit too much champagne i hope um and just let it all fly
00:30:32.560We have a window to do something really good here.
00:30:36.760Do you think there's a chance at setting a precedent, Carrie?
00:30:39.440i think they're gonna back out shadow before we get to court again that's my i don't think they're
00:30:47.440gonna give us that opportunity but you know some somebody has to be accountable for what's going on
00:30:53.240here and these politicians so i wrote a very pointed letter to to the president of the canadian
00:31:00.260food inspection agency so my second letter i i'm always fair you get one shot i read it on the show
00:31:06.200the other night i know i know how pointed it was yeah so you should see the one that went out this
00:31:10.240morning it's like you know dude you know i've kept your name out of the fray so far but now
00:31:16.780it's a very different thing you know people can go after elected politicians but rarely do we go
00:31:23.180after the top bureaucrats who are really responsible for what's going on here you know i've done this
00:31:28.200enough to know that you know bureaucrats in some cases i'm not saying this is the case but i've
00:31:34.260seen it often, you know, they actually lie to the ministers, you know, ministers come and go,
00:31:39.780bureaucrats are there forever. And, you know, there seems to be quite a few that rep time
00:31:46.540being from the Privy Council as well, you know, so these are not people that are in the science
00:31:51.800field. These are people that are in the business of being in, in, you know, government, government,
00:31:58.640yeah deep state man that's what they are and as you say you know lying to ministers i mean this
00:32:04.660is something that needs to be weeded out trump is doing it in the states i don't see why we can't do
00:32:09.040it here we don't have a choice it has to be done if we want to move forward and you know in this
00:32:16.080you know and you brought you know i i was kind of laughing that uh first of all the products you
00:32:21.980know that help support this show the recover i'm going do they have something for my brain
00:32:26.200they're working on it and then you bring on the show because we've got ostriches and tariffs
00:32:31.660i was at the point where and i could get access i was going to call donald trump and say
00:32:37.360you know president trump we need 55 tariffs on canadian goods until they free the ostrich
00:32:44.780i think he would have liked that i'm sure he would have liked hearing the story anyway carrie
00:32:52.960thank you for all the work that you've been doing and thank you for taking the time to talk to us
00:32:57.880and update us on everything that's been happening is there anything more that people can do to help
00:33:02.740stay in tune i mean we have legal fees you guys as i say this is not over yet right this is
00:33:08.980you know we we will wait and see and you'll be among the first to know if they withdraw or what
00:33:14.780what you know as we chase change course on this if we change course i think um at this point
00:33:20.940There's going to be a lot of pivots. We'll see. I've invited the top brass within CFIA and government to meet with us and talk about what can can be done to bring about a better response to people, farmers and livestock holders.
00:33:38.780You know, when situations like this happen, they lose credibility, Shadow, right?
00:33:44.240And that's not a good thing for an agency that's in charge of, you know, taking supposedly
00:34:04.540I think, you know, but until they're made to care, right?
00:34:07.100And, you know, I, I've often said that lots of times I get my way with government, not because their hearts are in it, but because I become the bigger problem. And if, if that motivates them to do what's right, I'm okay with that. They don't have to be motivated by the right thing. They just have to do the right thing.
00:34:25.260and if cia if cia does back out and they don't want to go back to court that's a good news for
00:34:32.320the ostrich farm right i mean they're just going to capitulate and say all right we're going to
00:34:36.980leave you guys alone and then the first thing you have to ask yourself is well why were you so
00:34:41.440adamant about it in the first place so good news for the ostrich farm but not so great for you know
00:34:47.480as you were saying all of the the other chicken farmers and beef farmers in bc because no precedent
00:34:52.840get set. Well, you know what, though? There's this wonderful decision that this wonderful
00:34:57.840Justice Bastille did that says, you know, we have some constitutional questions that come here. So
00:35:03.940he actually expanded the issues that are before the court by acknowledging that these issues are
00:35:12.180valuable and we need to sort them out. So even if the ostriches become safe and CFIA decides to make
00:35:19.700them a living laboratory and all the things it should do um there are still issues before the
00:35:25.420court here that i think we can keep it you know as live issues um moving forward as long as you
00:35:31.960know we can fight those battles on behalf of all the farmers and such right it sounds like this
00:35:37.460justice bastille may have been on your side a little bit here i'm saying you know not saying
00:35:42.500that he's not impartial or anything and by the way i love that name bastille it's bastille day
00:35:47.440in Canada. Well, you know, though, I think the more clever independent thinking justices are
00:35:56.140looking at the state of things on all that science front. I mean, they can't help it after looking at
00:36:02.800the total absurdity is how the courts handled and continue to handle the COVID issues, right?
00:36:10.600And I think for those people who see, you know, one of the things that this argument brought in
00:36:16.500to full light is that there may be a better way of doing public health, right? We know now vaccines
00:36:25.620wane, they, you know, they lose their efficacy. We know that antibiotics, superbugs get built up.
00:36:33.940And so anybody who has been in the past engaged in any kind of, you know, issues involving,
00:36:41.820you know a lot of science or a lot of medical procedures and drugs and those kinds of things
00:36:47.780is looking at this and going why wouldn't we take advantage of this maybe these ostriches can help
00:36:53.820us learn about natural immunity about how the mutations work and how their bodies adapt it is
00:37:01.460such a brilliant opportunity that we have and I hope I hope that those people in power have
00:37:08.360the ability to see that you know getting back to the judges as you say i mean you know we think of
00:37:14.540these judges a lot of times as these guys they sit on this bench way above us and they judge us
00:37:20.020they're judges right but they don't live in a vacuum they are human beings like everybody else
00:37:25.060they put their pants on the same way we do hopefully and they must have seen some of these
00:37:32.240confirmation hearings that have been going on in the united states in the last couple of days with
00:37:37.020people like cash patel and rfk jr uh who both have been called conspiracy theorists by the
00:37:43.100democrats but i mean you've got other side republican senators who are standing up and
00:37:48.140saying no we just want to ask questions why are you so against listening to the other side and
00:37:55.180hearing the questions they have and then trying to formulate some kind of an answer and and i would
00:38:01.100admit that if they haven't seen this stuff what what are they doing in their spare time i mean
00:38:07.200this is kind of top of the list here when it comes to news stuff yeah well one would think
00:38:12.760shadow but you know willful blindness and not knowing i mean it's a pretty comfortable gig
00:38:18.440being a judge in canada right and as as you know and and maybe it's time that i probably expose a
00:38:25.200little bit more of the information i have now there's growing concerns that i have for instance
00:38:30.520with the national judicial institute so all judges in canada have to pay into this national judicial
00:38:36.580institute where it used to be about um learning how to administer your court so good ways to write
00:38:43.240decisions technology that kind of thing but now they've gone over to the culture side so they1.00
00:38:50.440bring in people like princess darnell to indoctrinate judges about how many genders there
00:38:56.820are right they are they are hiring their own climate scientists in anticipation of climate0.98
00:39:04.560more climate cases so the so the judiciary is going to have their own team of climate says
00:39:10.040that's completely inappropriate you please um i have a quote from justice chief uh wagner
00:39:19.340on the 2030 agenda and how it's up to judges to to usher this in because governments can be slow
00:39:26.320and judges have the ability to end poverty like no that is the chief justice of the supreme court
00:39:32.900of canada right that guy yeah and so this is they're very misguided in what they're i mean
00:39:40.520but so who's going to bring them back on track it's going to be the use and eyes of this world
00:39:45.560because you know anyone that's in law practicing law you know the minute you challenge a judge
00:39:53.360in that capacity you're going to be hauled up before the law society you're going to be shut
00:39:57.340down and silenced right so it's going to take you know outside agencies like what you and i do
00:40:04.840and to hold them up to public scrutiny i think if you were to ask and i think there that has been
00:40:11.240asked you know confidence in in canadian judges is not very high so public trust is essential to
00:40:19.440our civil society. It's time we started dealing with that now. Carrie, thank you for all your good
00:40:25.520and difficult work this past weekend. Fast, too. I mean, you managed to do it in record time. And
00:40:31.680good luck with everything going forward. Please keep in touch with us and let us know what the
00:40:36.280heck's going on with all this. As always. And deeply, deeply appreciate you and your great
00:40:41.760group of people that landed us a hand in this. Thank you. Thank you, everybody.
00:40:46.840that's our pleasure thank you carrie we'll talk to you again soon night okay bye-bye there is
00:40:52.180carrie simpson save our ostriches.com oh we we referenced the video uh of these medical
00:41:00.780bureaucrats including bonnie henry and theresa tam which was leaked zoom call was leaked uh last
00:41:05.920summer i believe it was would you guys like to see that okay here um we don't have a protocol
00:41:13.600to be honest to be um escalating in the time of prevention as i said but things can be done you
00:41:20.800know it can be done um and test some of these structures out and we need to have a communication
00:41:27.840strategy the first positive milk there there may not be a lot of outrage in quebec but there's
00:41:33.120certainly a lot of interest in the bc because of the high path ai and in poultry that we've been
00:41:38.480through in the last two years so it's it's on people's minds if we have a positive milk
00:41:44.800um people will want to know that we know what it's about and that we're on it and that we're
00:41:50.240watching and that we're working together so i to me that's the most important thing we need
00:41:55.360in the short term i think in in some ways people are thinking oh wow it's only
00:42:02.240passed by samples and we expect it to be negative well there will be the odd thing you know the
00:42:11.320unexpected um so we'll sort of press on with that um with our colleagues and i keep telling people
00:42:21.740i feel i'm more worried than they are i'm not sure maybe it's all hidden underneath but i've
00:42:28.940They are discussing preventative measures, you guys.
00:46:13.180And it's all based on this H5N1 nonsense that the birds are going to infect the cows or the minks or whatever animal that they decide is going to be infected.
00:46:25.420And then, of course, it's going to come over to us.
00:58:10.540and, well, it looks like, prices of many U.S. imports would jump Sylvanas Afesokbar.
00:58:21.280Try and say that name three times fast.
00:58:25.040A professor of agri-food trade and policy at the University of Guelph said Canadians will feel the impact of tariffs on grocery store shelves fairly quickly.
00:58:35.300And it's going to be mostly on non-perishables.
00:58:37.640We import about 60% of our food from the U.S.
00:58:40.300If we impose reiterated tariff, it means the price of food is going up, going to go up by the amount of the tariff, 25%.
00:58:48.460He said it's going to get costlier on some grocery stuffs a lot faster.
00:58:55.060He says goods that have no close Canadian substitutes and are perishable would see the increases first.
00:59:01.180Fruits and vegetables, which Canada imports quite a bit in the winter months, businesses cannot stock up on perishables the way they do with non-perishables.
00:59:07.720therefore the impact would be felt almost right away i wonder if maybe you should brush out to
00:59:15.940the grocery store well you still have time before it closes tonight because these tariffs and i i'm
00:59:23.760not sure if the grocery stores are going to respond right away too they're going to have
00:59:28.960to reprice everything but then again they're working on product that they've already got
00:59:33.240tariff free, at least for now. But what they did say during COVID, as I recall, if there was ever
00:59:40.320a rush on food, toilet paper, that kind of thing at a grocery store, any one grocery store is
00:59:47.920stocked enough if they receive no shipments of anything to last, depending on traffic,
00:59:53.660moderate traffic three to five days and then that'd be it so in three to five days from the
01:00:04.160time these tariffs go into effect tomorrow we're going to start seeing some increases now the
01:00:12.340canadian government has been saying that we don't have any fentanyl here it's not getting across the
01:00:17.260u.s border how dare trump say that it's all coming from mexico they got like thousands and thousands
01:00:22.720of pounds from mexico this is only what's been found from mexico in the last five years but
01:00:28.840canada 40 pounds what's that nothing it's nothing well maybe it's because these fentanyl labs are
01:00:36.980allowed to operate with impunity and maybe they're not getting checked at the borders and what's the
01:00:43.040reason for that and this is why trump has had a bee in his bonnet about our border situation
01:08:02.020I can assure you that in all of that time, no clearer warning was ever given by Canada's rank-and-file police officers to the national government than what was done in our unsuccessful attempt to prevent the disbandment of the specialized Canada Ports Police in combination with the privatization of the ports themselves, Newark's letter to Cirque states.
01:08:23.500The letter continues, noting that in October of 1996, Newark met with Khrushchev's transport minister, David Anderson, later addressing the transport committee to highlight the imminent threat posed by Asian organized crimes infiltration of port operations.
01:08:40.220Newark's written briefing to the minister underscored the gravity of the situation with a blunt question.
01:08:45.760Who exactly are the commercial port operators?
01:08:48.420citing the anderson briefing document newark's letter to cirque states that anderson had been
01:08:55.040warned we are for example aware of serious concerns amongst the international law enforcement
01:09:01.140community surrounding the ownership of ports and container industries in asia and in particular
01:09:06.220hong kong taiwan and the people's republic of china there is simply no longer any doubt that
01:09:11.380drugs like heroin and again this is 1999 so now it's fentanyl are coming from these destinations
01:14:20.520One last thing from the government of Canada. They have announced that they're deferring the implementation of the change to the capital gains inclusion rate. Obviously, this is because of the upcoming election. Oh, we can't be seen to raise taxes right now. Absolutely not. So we're going to defer this.
01:14:45.200When we're not in power, we're going to defer this to next year,
01:14:47.580and let the conservatives worry about it.
01:14:49.700So the thing is that Revenue Canada, I believe,
01:14:54.240had already started trying to collect this, or were preparing to.