00:07:08.700We don't need them for energy. So I say, why are we doing this? Why do we why are we willing to lose between 100 billion and 200 billion dollars a year?
00:07:18.880We don't need them. As a state, it's different. As a state, it's much different.
00:07:23.880And there are no tariffs. So I'd love to see that. But some people say that would be a long shot.
00:07:31.140if people wanted to play the game right it would be a hundred percent certain that they'd become
00:07:38.540a state but a lot of people don't like to play the game because they don't have
00:07:43.260a threshold of pain and there would be some pain but uh not a lot the pain would be really there
00:07:50.200so we're going to meet again by phone at three o'clock and we'll let you know
00:07:55.140all right so that that phone call did happen and here's the statement that trudeau issued
00:08:04.840just after that meeting took place i just had a good call with president trump
00:08:12.300canada is implementing our 1.3 billion dollar border plan which by the way he doesn't mention
00:08:18.420here is stretched out over six years i'm not sure if trump even knows that reinforcing the
00:08:24.920border with new choppers, technology, and personnel, enhanced coordination with our
00:08:29.400American partners, and increased resources to stop the flow of fentanyl. Well, didn't Trudeau
00:08:35.480just say that there really isn't that much fentanyl flowing? And now he's saying we're
00:08:41.280going to stop the flow of fentanyl. Nearly 10,000 frontline personnel are and will be
00:08:47.160working on protecting the border. In addition, Canada is making new commitments to a point
00:08:51.980fentanyls are this is new we will list cartels as terrorists ensure 24 7 eyes on the border you
00:09:02.520mean we didn't have that before launch a canada u.s joint strike force to combat organized crime
00:09:08.280fentanyl and money laundering i've also signed a new intelligence directive on organized crime
00:09:13.000and fentanyl and we will be backing it with 200 million dollars proposed tariffs will be paused
00:09:17.980for at least 30 days while we work together.
00:09:25.000So we've got 30 days to get our youth together.
00:09:29.000And if Trump decides we're doing a good enough job,
00:09:32.360then maybe he'll push off those tariffs for another 30 days and so on and so on.
00:09:36.560Wally Dodritch is going to come along with his thoughts on this in just a couple of seconds.
00:09:40.300Hello, Danielle, watching from St. Malo.
00:09:42.500Tammy's watching in Chesdemir, Alberta.
00:09:44.240By the way, anybody who is watching from outside of Manitoba tonight, you're going to find Wally a very refreshing person, not your normal politician.
00:09:54.320And I think Wally represents the vanguard of people who probably should be getting involved at some level in politics, whether it's school trustee, whether it's city or town council, provincial, federal.
00:11:33.040With all this bluster that's been happening,
00:11:35.180And we've had this so-called Team Canada approach, right?
00:11:38.380So Trudeau has been talking with all of the premiers and a couple of his cabinet ministers.
00:11:42.840And I think Melanie Jolie went down to the United States and met with Democrat senators and congresspeople, which I thought was ridiculous.
00:11:51.160You know, even Wab Kanu, the premier of Manitoba, has been trying to figure out ways to keep American investment out of Manitoba to exclude American companies from bidding on contracts and whatnot.
00:12:02.140If you were sitting in that premier's chair right now and for the last couple of weeks, what would your approach have been?
00:12:11.560I would say right off the hop that I wouldn't be blurting out all of my potential actions because you want to hold your cards close to you.
00:12:22.640You want to look at this kind of like a chess game.
00:12:25.300And you've got to look four or five, six moves ahead of time to see exactly what you're going to end up with.
00:12:30.760And President Trump, of course, is a consummate dealmaker, and he's looking to fluster Mr. Trudeau.
00:12:40.020And Mr. Trudeau, unfortunately, is showing up to a gunfight with a knife.
00:13:27.880okay let me ask you this before we get into who you are because i'm sure there's a lot of people
00:13:32.900who who's this wally doddridge guy right i mean there's a lot of people who go like wally doddridge
00:13:38.020who's wally doddridge um but you and i had this great lunch meeting about a week and a half ago
00:13:44.300as i was saying earlier and we talked about manitoba and why it's a have-not province and
00:13:49.660how many minerals and resources are in the ground here and how we can develop the north i mean you
00:13:54.960spend a lot of your time up in the north you run that very successful business in churchill the
00:14:00.020tourism you bring people up there you you take them around you you know you've kept pretty much
00:14:04.440that town alive uh for the past 20 or 25 years what can manitoba do wally to get off the dole
00:14:12.520you know uh we talk often about reinventing the wheel we don't have to reinvent the wheel
00:14:20.860here in manitoba we can just look at our sister provinces over in saskatchewan and we used to
00:14:27.680laugh at our cousins in saskatchewan and say wow you know make fun of them but the reality is under
00:14:33.400brad wall he did a great job uh resurrecting their resource sector uh just last year uh in
00:14:40.160pond ash alone they did between 21 and 22 billion dollars in revenue just in pond ash can you imagine
00:14:46.940with their oil and gas sector and their hard rock mining sector, fully one third of their
00:14:52.040budget, their yearly budget is funded by royalties and ancillary benefits from the resource sector.
00:14:58.340And that's what I'd want to do here in Manitoba. Why hasn't that been done yet? I mean, we did
00:15:03.500have Brian Pallister in charge for a few years. You would think that he would have allowed that
00:15:08.440kind of thing to happen. He's a staunch conservative. Why don't we do this? Well, you know, I was a
00:15:14.320board member with the party for 12 years. I heard a lot of the discussions in the background and
00:15:19.620basically the mood came from Ottawa that we don't want resource development, that we don't want to
00:15:25.540have egress for our resources in Manitoba or in Western Canada. And, you know, Danielle Smith,
00:15:31.320she jumped on and she's putting up a good fight and I love what she's doing. I think that
00:15:37.000Manitoba could actually be the wheelhouse for exporting resources from Western Canada
00:15:43.080via a new port yeah yeah we talked about that but let's get back to what you just said
00:15:49.160what do you mean like they don't want to develop their resources here where does that come from
00:15:52.980well it's it's the whole philosophy of the extremist left uh the extreme environmentalists
00:16:01.060uh our own premier for instance has signed a document called the leap manifesto and it's a
00:16:08.560group of elites who have pledged not to do any mining or resource development. So that's a
00:16:14.240non-starter. I hope that somehow he can change his attitude towards that, but I don't hold a
00:16:22.220whole lot of hope. Let's just say that I'm a guy with millions of dollars and I own a stake in
00:16:30.220Manitoba where there's been some minerals found, whatever they happen to be. And I'm not even sure
00:16:36.360like what we've got here i know there's gold and nickel and what do we have here wally you know
00:16:43.100what uh we have a great potential resource that's already started and that's potash in southwestern
00:16:49.980manitoba i'd like to see what saskatchewan has done happen here in manitoba matter of fact i'm
00:16:55.820going to talk to my saskatchewan buddies and ask them do any of your potash mines dig under manitoba
00:17:01.500because if they do, we're going to take ownership of that, but also hard rock mining.
00:17:06.900And the project I just alluded to, it's called NISTENEN, and it's a Cree word meaning all of us.
00:17:13.760So basically, it is an organization, a corporation that is started by First Nations in the Hudson Bay region,
00:17:23.560and it is a utility corridor which would span three provinces,
00:17:27.300Essentially bringing hydroelectricity into Saskatchewan and Alberta, and we could repurpose our Bipole 3, which was so wastefully spent money on, and we could bring hydro to Alberta and hydrocarbons from Alberta to tidal water, which is what they are desperately needing.
00:17:49.140and what Manitoba would draw so much benefit from this project
00:17:54.340to have egress or an exit into Hudson Bay and the North Atlantic.
00:17:58.880And it would actually benefit all Manitobas.
00:18:02.320So you're talking about that port project, which is under development right now, correct?
00:18:08.300It's actually, the project has, through various governments,
00:18:15.240It's seen some money for basically find out route information through Manitoba and Saskatchewan.
00:18:26.620But the project itself needs some federal approval.
00:18:30.220So that's one of the reasons why I jumped into this role of running for leader is because we need a province on site and we need federal government on site because federal government has the jurisdiction over ports in Canada.
00:18:45.240So Pierre, and I've spoken to him, I don't want to speak for him, but I believe that he would be all on site for this mega project, which would bring between $80 and $100 billion of investment into Manitoba.
00:18:59.020That's just with that one project. What if we really got going on the oil and gas? We've got a lot of that here that's underdeveloped too, right?
00:19:06.140We do. And the other thing is, is we're on the edge of the Bakken field in North Dakota and Saskatchewan. We could actually be moving oil and natural gas from North Dakota, get this, taking it from the states and actually exporting it through a viable 12 month a year port in on the on the Hudson Bay coastline, just north of the Nelson River.
00:19:29.800This would benefit everybody, ancillary activity, manufacturing in southern Manitoba, and also, of course, in Winnipeg itself.
00:19:38.680But the benefits would accrue on all the issues that we are so dire straits for right now.
00:19:45.400We are basically broke, Shadow. We are broke as a province.
00:19:48.880And I hate to say it, but we've had years of NDP that have mismanaged our economy here in Manitoba and actually driven corporations out of the province, if you can believe it.
00:19:59.800yeah well it just seems to me that with so much potential and this province has always had
00:20:05.000potential i mean the golden boy faces north because that's where the resources are there's
00:20:09.400a lot of people who don't know that but that's the reason that the golden boy faces that way the
00:20:14.840golden boy for you who don't know is a statue that sits on top of our legislative buildings in
00:20:20.360in winnipeg so wally tell us about yourself who who are you where did you come from yeah so
00:20:28.840You know, my parents were immigrants. They are actually DPs, which means displaced persons.
00:20:34.440They both came from war ravaged countries. My father snuck out of the former Soviet Union with his family in 1928.
00:20:42.000My mother suffered greatly in Eastern Europe without getting into too much detail.
00:20:46.800Both of them came to Canada at different times. They met each other in Winnipeg, which, of course, is where I was born and raised here in Winnipeg, which I am right now.
00:20:56.720I went to Gordon Bell High School and then finished it off at Daniel McIntyre.
00:21:01.520But I seen that same vision that the Golden Boy has, and that is to go north and to find opportunity.
00:21:22.920so you know a lot of people ask me and and you hear this old title i guess it's antiquated now
00:21:31.020progressive conservative there's a pc party in ontario i think that's the only one other than
00:21:36.720manitoba maybe in the maritimes but i don't think those two words in the same title really go
00:21:43.000together anymore considering the political division that's happened in the past few years
00:21:47.720especially since covid began uh do you see maybe renaming this party and and i want to get further
00:21:54.400into what has become of the progressive conservative party of canada in just a second
00:21:59.820but that just it seems like an oxymoron to me and you said that yourself absolutely it is oxymoronic
00:22:06.120so whenever we use the term progressive conservative i feel like i'm apologizing for
00:22:11.520being conservative and you know when the media talks about conservative values it's it seems
00:22:17.620almost like they're talking about alcohol like don't take too much of it a little bit too much
00:22:22.960a little bit's okay but don't be too conservative and that's uh that has done our movement a
00:22:28.840disservice so absolutely i would be one of the people advocating for it that would be up to our
00:22:34.900grassroots but absolutely uh i believe it's oxymoronic as you stated so the last leadership
00:22:43.420vote that we had when when pallister just decided to quit and and the way he quit was
00:22:48.940almost unprecedented normally when a premier or a leader of a party quits you wait until they
00:22:57.000choose a new one before you skedaddle away but this guy he took off and what was it like a month
00:23:02.220He was gone. And then they he left the party scrambling to find a new leader, which turned out to be Heather Stephenson.
00:23:10.380But, you know, there's a lot of conservatives, sorry, progressive conservatives in this province right now who are still very bitter over the way that particular leadership vote went.
00:23:22.600They say that there was some last minute ballots brought in or last second ballots brought in or even came out from underneath the table at the final vote.
00:23:32.220uh that allowed stefanson to win this thing uh and from then on i mean it just seems to have
00:23:38.980gone downhill the last election was a disaster for the pcs how much fixing does this party need
00:23:46.160you sat on the board for a long time you know how it works what needs to be done yeah so i was on
00:23:51.800the board for 12 years and i was one of the guys jumping up and down saying we're mishandling this
00:23:57.060whole shutdown period. A lot of us, you know, it's funny to say now, because we went to Saskatchewan
00:24:03.620for vacations, because we were looking for freedom. So I believe there was a lot of palace
00:24:09.560intrigue during that time. And I don't want to get into the weeds with regards to exactly how
00:24:15.700everything transpired. But I want to set this straight first, and be careful how I see it. And
00:24:22.320And that is, you know, Brian and Esther Palliser were wonderful, good people, honest people.
00:24:29.020I want to say that because I truly believe that.
00:24:32.440But that being said, near the end of his second four years, the COVID situation was largely mishandled.
00:24:42.980And I can say that we had a government or a leadership that was getting into the weeds as far as drinking the Kool-Aid, going a little bit too extreme.
00:24:56.640We mishandled it. We lost our base as a result of that.
00:25:00.520I remember back at that time when the party was looking for donations because obviously a lot of businesses were shut down.
00:25:08.940And a lot of the people and people like myself are saying, you're looking for a donation.
00:25:14.740You're trying to bankrupt my business at the same time. What do you think you're doing?
00:25:19.180And so it was a nasty time. But this is what I'd like to say to all of that.
00:25:24.800And that is I jumped into this race. I jumped into it for a number of reasons.
00:25:31.000But the main reason I believe why I'm here is because we need a actual conservative leader in our party.
00:25:39.240If we don't have an actual conservative leader, our party will splinter into five different places and we will not hold power for two or three terms.
00:25:52.560And unfortunately, the alternative is too horrendous to think about, either under Mr.
00:26:17.000I have children, and I wanted to bring hope to the small business community and to the conservative community, our freedom fighters, and that's why I'm here.
00:26:29.060Wally, we've got a problem in our school system right now, and we've got a young lady named Raelynn who has been leading the charge on getting the word out about pornography in our schools.
00:26:42.100and she's been making videos and those videos have been titled those books aren't in my kid's
00:26:48.020school because you know the title denotes people in denial and yet they are and she goes ahead and
00:26:55.180she reads certain passages from these books in each one of her videos and her question to you is
00:27:00.720what would you do about getting those those books removed i mean we're talking about children as
00:27:05.860young as six and seven years old hearing some incredibly you know i when i play her videos on
00:27:12.340this show there are people in the comment section who say i can't stand it i can't stand it i'll
00:27:18.380come back when it's over it's it's that bad what could you do to get the ball rolling and get rid
00:27:25.720of those things a government led by me would remove pornography from schools period done
00:27:59.500Bureaucracy is playing that game, right?
00:28:02.080so when we talk about bureaucracy i think wab canoe is just in the middle of hiring
00:28:07.680all kinds of new government employees like what needs to be done in that regard
00:28:11.660how how do we manage the provincial workforce so the i'm assuming to reiterate the question is
00:28:21.420how do we uh grow the economy by by hiring more government employees could i no no no no i'm
00:28:29.300sorry i'll rephrase it for you we've got too many government employees how do we lessen you know
00:28:35.300that burden because it's a huge tax burden on uh on manitobans to have that many i think we've got
00:28:41.600more government employees per capita than any province in the country um and you're right the
00:28:47.620canadian taxpayers federation did put out those stats a few months ago uh you know you can get
00:28:53.740rid of I shouldn't say get rid of you can shrink the workforce the provincial workforce just simply
00:29:03.460by attrition I believe it's in the neighborhood of 25 per year so that's that can deal with that
00:29:11.360issue very quickly and have people repurposed and put into different departments as needed
00:29:17.280because I believe that if I get in as the premier of this province that the economy will grow
00:29:22.860exponentially. And I'm not thinking about just one thing. I'm going to be looking at 10 different
00:29:27.400things going at the same time so that we're not just growing in one sector, but we're growing in
00:29:32.260every sector and then looking for efficiencies. But we're going to grow that economy so fast
00:29:37.240that we're actually going to be looking for employees in the long run. But we're at 1.4
00:29:42.680million people. And much of our budget, unfortunately, is actually styled for about
00:29:49.740a million people so issues like uh our police uh law and order in this in this province hospitals
00:29:57.080our medical system our infrastructure system which is nine billion dollars uh in deficit right now
00:30:04.580so many of these things are looking for our attention but the way that we do it is we grow
00:30:10.400our economy we grow ourselves out of this but at the same time managing costs and i completely agree
00:30:16.880we don't run our province like the post office we need to run our province like a business and
00:30:23.280that's what i am i'm not a politician i hate i hate taking on that uh that term i am a businessman
00:30:29.440and i know that you have to have enough money at the end of the month to make your payments and
00:30:34.880enough money to have your money that you use to invest in the future wally you you would have to
00:30:41.240go up against some pretty powerful public unions have you thought about different ways to deal with
00:30:47.620them if you're growing the economy what you're doing is you're not just adding jobs but you're
00:30:55.040adding value to jobs the jobs that we're talking about are high-paying jobs and a lot of people in
00:31:01.820the north want those kind of jobs our indigenous population you can see a sea change happening in
00:31:09.120attitudes of people. We unfortunately had a prime minister for 10 years that changed the mood
00:31:15.540in this country, unfortunately, to one of entitlement. And we need to, at the same time
00:31:22.580growing the economy, we need to address the entitlement attitude. And by putting good jobs
00:31:31.060in our resource sector and in our infrastructure projects that we have slated for northern
00:31:37.060manitoba i believe that we can deal with both of those issues simultaneously what's your policy on
00:31:43.160dei and and i don't even know how deeply entrenched this diversity equity and inclusion policy is in
00:31:49.740the policies of the manitoba government would you get rid of it immediately yeah so i was at
00:31:54.640synagogue about a week ago speaking with one lady who worked at one of our schools and she said
00:32:02.180and I quote, I wish I could hire men for this job because the positions that she was asked to fill
00:32:10.580as a supervisor required that she only hire minority females. And that basically, she said,
00:32:19.900is limiting the scope of who I can hire and what we can accomplish in our school system.
00:32:25.800but how deeply entrenched is this policy in our province is it written in law is it just a
00:32:35.720suggestion i mean and you know like when i talk about this you know it comes from the government
00:32:42.160and the ministers of each whatever ministry and they don't really run the show the ministers
00:32:48.940right i mean it's the deputy minister who makes policy and this is where we get into the deep
00:32:52.860state bureaucratic nonsense. So going back in time, when Brian Pallister first got in as premier,
00:33:01.380we had 16 to 17 years of NDP rule. One of the things that we needed to do, and I believe it
00:33:07.760wasn't done, at least not sufficiently, and that is to make sure that we have deputy ministers
00:33:12.680that actually reflect our views. So when we're thinking about changing the culture in government,
00:33:18.700You can see the gentleman to the south talking about draining the swamp and using terminology like that. And I totally agree that we actually have to put our values into the bureaucracy that we would be leading and not allowing the bureaucracy to lead the elected representatives.
00:33:37.580But the elected representatives, which represent our grassroots, our taxpayers, those are the people that we represent.
00:33:45.400And so we have to filter our, put our values in place and not have the bureaucrats' values filtered up towards us.
00:34:05.780Well, let me just give you a brief story of myself. My daughter needed surgery. The doctors here said it's two years out. So I went to All True Health in Grand Forks because I was blessed enough to do this and took my daughter.0.55
00:34:23.080We went through a series of tests and such, and the doctor said it needs to be done, and quickly.
00:34:29.300The type of operation she had was serious enough that we wanted good medical care,
00:34:35.000and it needed to be done in order to avoid her having permanent neurological damage.
00:34:40.200So out of pocket, we spent a significant amount of dollars to take care of my daughter's health care.
00:34:47.760So I've done that study of how much money we spend for capita here in Manitoba. It's about $5,500, $5,600 per person, per citizen in Manitoba. In Saskatchewan, which fares much better, they have a budget of $6,600 per person for health care.
00:35:09.140And just for good measure, I checked into North Dakota and how much they spend. And of course, they have a private public system there and they spend about sixteen hundred dollars in Canadian dollars per person.
00:35:23.800So you can see the level of health care here in Manitoba. Again, I go back to the premise that we're broke. We look into our wallet, there's no money there. We have to go into our resource sector, like our sister provinces, Saskatchewan, Alberta, you know, and do what they've done. We're not reinventing the wheel. We're just looking to see what other jurisdictions are doing successfully, and we can do it.
00:35:48.680here in manitoba we actually import uh ideas that are that are bad uh the ndp for years
00:35:56.020have tried safe inject so-called safe injection sites but to think that that bad idea could have
00:36:02.780been thrown out by the ndp there we've actually have we have an ndp government that's brought it
00:36:08.940here to winnipeg and we're dealing with chronic issues of homelessness which really is another
00:36:15.940word for drug addiction yeah well okay let's get back to the hospitals for just a second or the
00:36:22.500medical system um does the system need to change itself i mean i remember when pallister you know
00:36:29.880changed the emergencies into urgent care i thought that was a good start he was attacked by the ndp
00:36:35.600he was attacked by the media for uh pretty much shuttering uh emergencies which he did not do
00:36:42.040There are still three huge emergency rooms in this city and all kinds of urgent care centers elsewhere.
00:36:47.480He did do a number a little bit anyway on some of the smaller rural communities in terms of medical service.
00:36:53.560But what needs to happen and how much can you change the system under the laws of Canada?
00:37:00.520So, again, I'd like to laud what Premier Pellister did as far as balancing the budget is concerned.
00:37:09.440But the reality is, is we're broke. We need to increase the size of our economy. And then we can look at our sister province, Saskatchewan, to see what Saskatchewan has done. And they have brought in some private delivery, not insurance, but private delivery, meaning things became more efficient under a system that was that prioritized the patient.
00:37:35.160so i'm a businessman i like to run our party like a business i'd like to run our government
00:37:42.200of manitoba like a business and i'm looking at how much money we take in how much money we put out
00:37:48.040and i realize oh you know what we're broke our guest is wally dodrick she is running to become
00:37:54.080the leader of the progressive conservative party of manitoba regular guy businessman grew up in
00:37:59.420winnipeg spent what 12 years on the board of the progressive conservative party of manitoba
00:38:04.840you have run in a couple of elections was it federally or provincially wally yes uh twice
00:38:11.120federally and that was up north right in that massive riding it was in the churchill riding
00:38:17.900so i visited pretty much all the communities except for two i door knocked on 20 000 doors
00:38:23.200and we increased our vote share from 10 to almost 20 and then the second time from 20
00:38:29.760percent to almost about 28 percent so the problem there was you just got to have a third chance i
00:38:36.180think on the third run you build up enough momentum that could have made it it seems to me
00:38:41.620that first nations people in this country not just in manitoba but in canada altogether seem
00:38:47.880married somehow to either the ndp or the liberal party and it seems like a historical thing why is
00:38:55.800of that you know i love i know a lot of indigenous people and of course churchill is a majority
00:39:02.380indigenous community so i've lived in uh indigenous communities the vast majority of my life and this
00:39:09.400is what i would say to that people who think that uh that work it doesn't get done on indigenous
00:39:15.260communities that the voters actually are the union people whether it's the teachers union whether
00:39:21.120It's the nurses union. And I'm not saying all of them vote one particular way, but I would hazard to guess that if you added up all the numbers in these communities that you actually see the NDP vote is sprouting up, not amongst the Indigenous voters, although I'm sure they do have their share, but it's actually the unions.
00:39:40.780and you can see how they pander to the unions in northern Manitoba.
00:40:35.480I was concerned about my safety the other night walking through downtown.
00:40:40.080And this was on Saturday at about 8.30.
00:40:44.940And I thought, wow, how much worse is this going to get?
00:40:47.700There was a knife fight in front of one of the bars,
00:40:52.300that one across from the MTS center there,
00:40:55.340between a couple of apparently 50-year-old Filipino guys.
00:40:59.800And there were three cop cars there, police tape all over the place.
00:41:03.400Two blocks down from there, there were sirens and something else going on.
00:41:08.000I mean, what can we do about all of this?
00:41:10.080i've used the term mood i think earlier in this broadcast we have a mood that has percolated down
00:41:18.040from ottawa and what it's created is revolving door justice where people get arrested whether
00:41:25.920it's for loitering whether it's for you know drunken disorderly public nuisance and they bring
00:41:31.940them to the remand center and it takes about two or three hours for them to actually file the
00:41:37.980paperwork and the police are sitting there the whole time and my guess is that uh you know the
00:41:43.160attitude that the NDP have here with our you know inner city area is they just say you know sorry
00:41:49.920you got caught buddy uh better luck next time and you'll be out in a few minutes and literally
00:41:55.360before the police are actually back in their precinct that the person they arrested is back
00:42:00.320out on the street and that same person is probably guilty of 20 of the same uh offenses that they
00:42:07.340just created. So a revolving door justice is a product of the Liberal Party of Canada, Mr. Justin
00:42:14.720Trudeau, and he needs to be removed as quickly as possible. And then from the perspective of our
00:42:20.140province, we need to stop acting as if we're on 1990s budgets for our law and order. We actually
00:42:28.620have to give the police the tools and hire more police. And that sounds like it's a pat answer,
00:42:34.020But the reality is, is the police need to be back out on the streets in greater numbers.
00:42:41.180And we can do a lot of things with the homelessness.
00:42:43.680As I said, it's another term for homelessness, another term for drug addiction.
00:42:49.120Have you spoken with any police officers at all since you've been running?
00:42:53.820Have they issued or mentioned any concerns to you, things that they would like to see done?
00:42:58.520I have. I've spoken to RCMP as well as city police.
00:43:02.320And one of the issues that was explained to me is that we've had a deficit for so long that we actually have to over budget to to allow them to buy the equipment and the things that they need to do their job.
00:43:18.220This is a dangerous job, especially in the initial stages of trying to change the culture.
00:43:23.960You have to go in big and bold and with a larger budget.
00:43:29.000And again, it goes back to the fact that we're broke.
00:43:31.760shadow we're broke you look checked your wallet lately there's no money in manitoba
00:43:35.920i want to get back to covet for a second wally and i know that uh you know i don't want to go
00:43:41.360too hard on this but i do have to ask you you were a board member during pallister's run as premier
00:43:48.580yeah yeah during covet and you know i've asked several people about this and for some reason
00:43:56.260and this is something people want to hear for some reason people get shy about answering this
00:44:01.340question, even privately. Brian Pallister is a conservative. He has been a dyed-in-the-wool
00:44:07.600conservative since he has been in politics. He believes in freedom. He believes in freedom of
00:44:13.660speech. He believes in all of that stuff. And yet for him to come down with some of the edicts that
00:44:18.660he came down with during COVID, and it almost seemed, Wally, as though he was being held
00:44:26.500at knife point in some of those press conferences i recall one reporter asking him you know when
00:44:33.360they had the reporters calling in by phone or by zoom or whatever it was and they only got one
00:44:39.120question or a question and a follow-up one of the the reporters asked him about ivermectin as a
00:44:45.320treatment as opposed to the vaccine and his response was i would just like to thank the
00:44:50.980people who provided the rain we really needed the rain you remember that response i don't recall but
00:44:57.120keep going he was talking about rain he completely and totally avoided the question hand-handedly i
00:45:03.280mean it was one of the worst political answers i've ever heard even worse than anything trudeau
00:45:07.760came out with and he's come out with some stinkers and during this answer pallister sounded as though
00:45:14.560he was shaky he was almost in tears saying things that he didn't want to say was he
00:45:22.700forced into this was there pressure from the back rooms to force him to do this stuff
00:45:27.860so um during that time during the the dark hours of the shutdowns you know before the freedom
00:45:38.200convoy before people started pushing back I believe that what affected him was for instance
00:45:48.080on Halloween in that time period of that year we actually had a number of activists going to his
00:45:57.000private house and laying down and putting headstones and saying Mr. Pallister is responsible
00:46:04.000for hundreds of deaths in manitoba and that does get to a person if you allow it to get to a
00:46:10.280person uh i do know that uh the liberal media you know the the mainstream media as we like to call
00:46:17.460it no no left-wing corporate media we don't call them their left-wing corporate media that's what
00:46:22.700we call them here totally agree uh that they had an influence on him and they they shouldn't have
00:46:29.840I'm not going to get into the emails that I sent him, but he became very irate with myself.
00:46:35.960I actually had a good discussion with one of our MLAs that was kind of teetering in that direction.
00:46:43.760And we pulled him back from the brink and he actually became a freedom fighter later on.
00:46:48.100And so I was working behind the scenes, trying to get the party back on track and trying to get Mr. Pallister away from the nightly scrums with the doctor at his side, talking about how many people were dying in Manitoba.
00:47:06.540Without all of the full knowledge of what actually was happening, the left wing media had a narrative and they were pushing it because they were actually getting giddy.
00:47:18.800Look, we get to shut down our country. Look, we get to get to put the Green New Deal in place.
00:47:25.200And, you know, they were excited for what was happening.0.94
00:47:28.580I was a guest at what was happening and fighting back.
00:47:32.340And again, now that's one of the reasons why I jumped in.
00:47:35.280I'm a freedom fighter and I, you know, I've got to explain to people that my sincerity in this area is provided in the fact that I fought alongside our freedom fighters in Manitoba.
00:47:49.940You're a man of God as well. You believe in standing by what is right.
00:47:55.240Is the premier or the leader of any political party really the leader or are there other voices?
00:48:03.840and i'm not talking about mlas or mps talking about ultimately does that person sit at the
00:48:09.800head of the table you know i through all of this i i looked at our constitution i actually have a
00:48:15.940team with me as well looking at uh what a premier can do and what a premier can't do
00:48:21.060uh i will not uh skirt the issue that brian pallister made a horrible mistake you know
00:48:29.000And we've got that term that we like to use, drink the Kool-Aid, from a man who led a whole bunch of people astray back in the 1970s.
00:48:42.460So the one thing that came out of that horrendous period of time is the fact that we have a cliche in the English language who says he drank the Kool-Aid.
00:48:52.840And unfortunately, here in Manitoba, there was some Kool-Aid that was being had.
00:48:58.800And I was one of those people, as I said, I could show you some of the communication that I had with our government leaders.
00:49:06.060And it almost broke the line of communication.
00:49:14.800Yeah, between me and Mr. Pallister, between me and some of the MLAs.
00:49:18.920I did win some battles. And as I mentioned earlier, there's one of the MLAs who later came out, actually weeks later, came out with a letter stating that his constituents could no longer accept the status quo and that they come from persecuted backgrounds and foreign lands and were afraid that what was happening in Manitoba was actually causing angst amongst people, especially people of faith.
00:49:47.420I mean, I go to church. I actually belong to one of the churches that ended up suing the government as a result of the shutdowns.
00:49:55.940And I jokingly said back then that if we put a bowl of fruit in front of the church, we could call it Church Co.
00:50:05.140And you know where I'm going with that, because a lot of businesses were allowed to be open, but churches were shut down.
00:50:12.060You know, a lot of people talk about the Freedom Convoy in Ottawa, but Manitoba had one.
00:50:16.980It was minus 35, I recall, and it lasted for, what, three weeks in front of the legislature.
00:50:23.120Do you know what was going on inside the halls of power?
00:50:28.680And on weekends, I'm not going to say that it was as big as the Ottawa convoy,
00:50:32.660but I can tell you that on weekends, because I was there.
00:50:35.040I was there, I don't know how many days in a row.
00:50:39.160Thousands and thousands of people were there.
00:50:44.980What was going on inside the legislature at that point? Did they realize that this thing was getting bigger? Did they try to stop? And I know that Manitoba Justice was around taking pictures, too, of all of the rallies and the events that we were having in the Freedom Days. Are you aware of any of the stuff that was going on in the legislature, the conversation?
00:51:05.280You know, to get into in-depth in the Palace intrigue, in the ledge, I just know that there were some valiant people who stood their ground.
00:51:20.600And there was a lot of consternation from the leadership.
00:51:25.320Eventually, Brian Pallister was let out, as you said, because there was so much division under his leadership that a number of people essentially asked him to leave.
00:51:40.520And he and he was it was very unusual circumstances.
00:51:45.180And again, I just go back to the mishandling of the government.
00:51:52.440We had a government in Saskatchewan that was, you know, maybe I would say was shut down too many things as well, shut down its economy too much, but at least they made it through and at least they respected the people.
00:52:08.480You know, the governor of South Dakota, Kristi Noem, she was one of the people in the stateside who stood out.
00:52:17.700And she, I remember watching an interview at that time done by a school that was asking her these very same questions about the shutdowns and such.
00:52:29.340She said, first of all, we have a hotline that we can talk to all the governors in the U.S. to see what they're doing with regards to this.
00:52:36.940And then she said, and this is the best part, she said, I looked at the Constitution, the American Constitution, and she said, I could only do what the Constitution allowed. So there was no mandates, there was no shutdowns, but she did give directives to hospitals, to seniors' homes, special care homes, and First Nations, and said, you need to take precautions, you need to do what you can, because this is real.
00:53:03.860but she did not interfere with the rights of the individual.
00:53:07.840And for that, I applaud Christy Knoll.
00:53:21.340How can you bring everybody back together?
00:53:25.680I've been in touch with many of the disparate parts of our party,
00:53:30.380meaning some of the freedom folks that had given up on the party and when they meet me when they
00:53:37.300talk to me and obviously opportunities like this that I have to convince them that that there is
00:53:44.960a way through this and the alternative is so horrible to think of that we might have two terms
00:53:51.880of the NDP ruining further ruining our economy I just think of what they're teaching in the schools
00:53:58.000I just think of the tax, the burden that they will bring, and the further deterioration of our business climate.
00:54:08.380The alternative is too hard to think of.
00:54:11.440And again, that's one of the reasons why I joined this race, is because we need a true conservative.
00:54:16.700If we don't have a true conservative winning this race, I predict that our party will metastasize, it will splinter, and you'll see two or three different directions.
00:54:26.740I know people who are waiting in the wings, waiting, sadly, to see me fail.
00:54:34.400But I don't believe I will. But they're waiting to see that so that they can start their new parties.
00:54:39.620And I have always said this and with this and that is conservatives don't run away from problems.
00:54:45.820We run to problems. We have a party that's in trouble. Yes, it is.
00:54:50.180it was controlled by elites uh it lost its way uh it ceased to become a conservative party for
00:54:57.300a number of years we need to bring it back from the edge we need to rescue the party get it out
00:55:02.980of debt uh increase our membership and actually get our our caucus our colleagues on site with
00:55:09.120the right messaging because we're not giving an appropriate opposition in in the ledge right now
00:55:15.100Your opponent seems prone to be playing political games.
00:55:19.360And right now, I think he's talking to the left-wing corporate media about you not having a seat.
00:55:24.080And because of that, you should not be a candidate to be the leader of the party.
00:55:34.820She had the support of three caucus members.
00:55:38.260I actually have the support of three caucus members as well.
00:55:41.540I'm not going to name them, but we need to revamp the party.
00:55:49.960We need to call an AGM within one month of me becoming the leader, and we need to elect new executives, a new CEO of the party, and then we have to do a forensic audit to see where all of our money of our membership has been foolishly spent.
00:56:07.160We need to go back two or three years and look at all of those numbers because people have a mistrust in politicians.
00:56:15.100Let's face it. All across the Western world, you can see in groups of people that are leading new parties into power.
00:56:27.300and we see what's happening in in the states right now uh there's a historic mistrust of our
00:56:34.560institutions and a historic mistrust of politicians so the sincerity factor has to be part of the
00:56:41.560equation when choosing a new leader if a person is not trustworthy then they should not lead our
00:56:47.280party and our province how do you propose dealing with the left-wing corporate media i mean and it's
00:56:53.080funny to watch the winnipeg free press and cbc manitoba running around you know taking obby con
00:57:00.320side right now that's by the way that's wally's opponent for those of you that don't know he's a
00:57:04.220football player i think he's served what three four years of a term and in office right now i'm
00:57:09.700not sure exactly how long he's been in there but once a leader is chosen for this party then
00:57:14.860obviously the left-wing corporate media is going to vilify that leader because he will be a
00:57:21.460conservative how do you plan on dealing with them you know before i i joined this race uh i actually
00:57:29.300bought part of the winnipeg sun i would encourage all your subscribers to get a subscription to the
00:57:34.540sun as well uh let me just say kevin klein is doing a great job with with that newspaper it's
00:57:42.200now completely locally owned it's not owned by post media out of toronto anymore i think he's
00:57:47.300doing a great job with it uh and he's got marty gold in there writing for him a couple of times
00:57:52.000a week which i think is a great move as well so uh yeah congratulations on that for sure
00:57:57.060yeah so you know in dealing with the media i've seen how our past leaders took the media at face
00:58:03.380value you can't well you know there are some reporters uh you know they're paid to talk
00:58:09.620crap about conservatives and i understand that there's actually some reporters in that mainstream
00:58:15.120media that actually do have some scruples uh but uh you can't take them at face value in the sense0.98
00:58:24.040that uh on an issue for instance a few weeks ago um i was called out you know for saying that a
00:58:31.900trans man with a dress or a man with a dress is still a man with a dress uh you know you're right
00:58:39.060you're absolutely right these facts matter in our in our in our society and we need leadership that0.58
00:58:46.220actually has a backbone that stands up and says these things it's it's almost were they demanding
00:58:53.180that you apologize for that remark well they've demanded for a number of things that the the media
00:58:58.800together uh with my opponent uh has made a number of demands uh and those demands will uh go unheeded
00:59:06.520Because, you know what, we've got to stand for these things. Otherwise, our society, I believe, will reach a point of critical mass where things start falling apart. And you know, parts of downtown Winnipeg and the North End, they are ruled by the street gangs. We need to take those places back.
00:59:25.380And the reason the way that you do it is you actually stand up and you have a backbone and you actually stand for these things, which brings me over to the other aspect of our harnessing our resource, our natural resources in northern Manitoba and here in southern Manitoba.
00:59:41.760If you don't have a backbone, guess what?
00:59:43.620You won't be able to do those things, but you have to have a backbone.
00:59:46.800I've proven that I can stand up against the left wing media and I'll do it time and time again.
00:59:52.280And frankly, their bark is worse than their bite.
00:59:54.480They make it sound like they are the majority, but on issues like trans, for instance, all respect to everybody, equal rights for all.
01:00:04.060But you know what? Equal rights for all with no special rights, no special classification of human beings.
01:00:12.260We just need to stand for what's right.
01:00:13.960Historically, what conservatives stood for is freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of association, you name it, freedom is the essence of our conservative movement.
01:00:27.140What about this movement that the Winnipeg metropolitan region has been making, this privately formed corporation, to try and turn Winnipeg and the surrounding rural municipalities into a 15-minute or smart city, and then all of these rural communities who have been rolling out these plans as well in the past six months?
01:00:50.880I know that Morris has run out this new transportation plan, the same with Emerson, Roblin, Dauphin has come out with one.
01:01:03.280You know, the province employs several civil engineers, and it's within the purview of our civil engineers and the province to develop plans.
01:01:13.900But rather than putting that heavy hammer and trying to get an agreement so that you can manipulate the outlying bedroom communities time and time again, let's just hammer out an agreement.
01:01:27.460If a road needs to be twinned or if there needs to be limited access freeways built in some direction, let's just work together like we historically have.
01:01:37.420Yeah, but they're talking about, Wally, I'm sorry to interrupt you. They're talking about property rights. They're talking about transportation rights. You know, I mean, in Emerson, they said we need a transportation plan. You know how many people live in Emerson? There's 500 people there. Like, no, there's not even a stoplight there.
01:01:50.620And all of these plans are very similar in their wording, and when you look at the UN plan, which is part of ICLEI, which is part of the Partners for Climate Protection, which is part of the Canadian Federation of Municipalities, you start to see what they're doing here, right?
01:02:08.100Well, a lot of this money to promote these plans came from the federal government, and they are trying to manipulate our communities around the capital, the city of Winnipeg.
01:02:22.400I, you know, frankly, I believe it's stopped now, and it's stopped because of the will of the people who have gathered at these events and said we don't want to do it anymore.
01:02:34.780They still keep rolling them out, though.
01:02:36.520I mean, you know, the one here in Winnipeg is stopped for now, but there was they hosted a big event at the Winnipeg Art Gallery last week.
01:02:43.740And guess who was there? Wob Canoe, the premier, sorry, the mayor, Scott Gillingham and a bunch of guest speakers, city planners.
01:02:50.680They're trying to get this U.N. plan and push it down our throats, which is ridiculous.
01:02:58.460Yeah, that's why we need a conservative in government, because those things will not be pushed down people's throats.
01:03:05.200okay one more thing uh wally this this uh i don't even know what to call i guess an election this
01:03:11.500leadership election how long does it go when is uh how long do people have to uh show support for
01:03:19.040you yeah so uh i want to call out first of all we need people to sign up as members uh we have
01:03:26.360until the end of this month this was just a few weeks away so you can go to wally for leader.ca
01:03:33.620is that the number four four okay wally number four yeah okay and you can sign up on her on her
01:03:39.780website uh and i would encourage everybody don't just sign yourself up sign up your spouse sign
01:03:46.300up your children who are 14 and older sign up your neighbors and your extended family we this is a
01:03:52.900numbers game now and it's all about numbers if you value freedom uh if you value the you know
01:03:59.740the services that the province should offer uh then you would need to vote uh in this race so
01:04:06.680that you actually have a conservative leading a conservative party yeah so let's say you win this
01:04:13.280and and now you go get your seat in some kind of a by-election i suppose uh you become the leader
01:04:18.700of the opposition in the legislature and you you've got like what two and a half years to get
01:04:23.560the party ready for an election how would you go about taking these guys on i mean they've got all
01:04:27.980the unions you know it seems to me now i i know that one of your people was telling me before we
01:04:33.080went on that the ndp didn't win by too many votes in this last election so it's not as as you know
01:04:40.280disparate as people think it is what and i don't want to ask what your strategy is going to be
01:04:45.320obviously i don't want to give it away but you know how do you plan on and taking these guys on
01:04:49.820yeah the the numbers are not that dramatic even though we mishandle things as a party
01:04:56.120Those numbers, I believe it was around 3,200, spread over about 12 ridings.
01:05:01.980And bringing the party back together is part of my plan because the last election, our base stayed home.
01:05:10.340They were mad at us because of the way we mishandled the nomination election.
01:05:16.560There's a lot of people that were angry with us.
01:05:18.700And so we need to go back and turn around and look at those people and say, hey, we're sorry the way we handle things.
01:05:24.740In my business, you know what we do is we are pleasing our clients and that's what we need to do as a party is we actually need to look at our membership and do things that actually make them pleased at how we interact with them.
01:05:38.700That's more communication, better communication, sincerity, and getting out into the coffee shops for me and our MLAs and actually asking our MLAs to call into the ridings, doing our base, building up our membership and continue to build up the party until an election, which I don't think is going to be two and a half years away.
01:06:00.640I think it's going to be a lot sooner.
01:06:02.100So do I. I think Wab Canoe is the next federal leader of the NDP.
01:06:05.600They're going to have their own leadership election.
01:06:08.020And right then and there, they're going to call a snap.
01:06:56.920There's a couple more things I want to cover before we get into the extension tonight for the all-access folks on shadowdavis.com.
01:07:03.120And that is an interview that was done on Church and State with Xi, hang on just a second, Xi Van Fleet, who is the author of a book called Mao's America.
01:07:18.140She grew up in China as China was becoming a communist nation.
01:07:24.320She was born in the 1940s, and she saw how it changed under Mao Zedong.
01:07:29.080and now she sees it happening here and she's writing books to warn people about it as a
01:07:35.180matter of fact we're going to try and get her on the show one of these nights in the next couple
01:07:38.700of weeks but here's how we're going to do that here's how we're going to get bigger guests on
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01:08:20.7802,500 followers on the YouTube channel. Now, having said that, this is my third or fourth
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01:08:54.380going to see that and they're going to go wow this guy's got like a hundred thousand followers we need
01:08:58.420to get on that show and then we're going to start really rolling i want to thank you guys for your
01:09:04.600incredible support of this show for the last four years without it this show would not exist so thank
01:09:11.900you very much for all of that. Before Trudeau capitulated this morning and decided that yes,
01:09:18.900yes, he was going to cave to Donald Trump's demands and strengthen the border and spend
01:09:22.760all this money, Pierre Polyev gave a press conference and here's what he said.
01:09:28.540These tariffs are unjustified and they are wrong. The United States needs to do more on its border
01:09:35.360and so do we. But frankly, it should not take a foreign leader to get our government to reverse
01:09:45.160its deadly policies that are killing our people. It is not for President Trump or any other foreign
01:09:51.280leader that I want to stop fentanyl in my country. It's so that not one more mother has to bury
01:09:58.820her face in her hands in the terrible agony of learning her son died in a back alley somewhere
01:10:07.680from this poison. And that is why I will take back control of Canada's borders. My common sense
01:10:16.200Canada First plan should immediately be adopted by Parliament. We must re-call Parliament now
01:10:23.260and put Liberal Party power struggles aside so that we can adopt this plan to save our people and secure our borders.
01:10:31.320The plan, immediately deploy military troops, helicopters and surveillance to the border to spot and intercept risks.
01:10:41.380As the recent remarks by the Canadian Forces Chief of the Defence Staff, General Jenny Kerrigan, offered earlier this month,
01:10:50.140We can deploy military assets into the sky, whether helicopters or other surveillance tools, and we should do so.
01:10:59.360In fact, we should have done so long ago.
01:11:03.640Two, expand the powers of CBSA border agents to patrol everywhere along the border, not just at official border crossings.
01:11:13.0003. Hire 2,000, at least 2,000 new CBSA agents to intercept illegal crossers, drugs, guns, and other dangerous law breaking.
01:11:26.3404. Install high-powered scanners at all major land crossings and shipping ports.
01:11:33.280These scanners can see through the walls of containers and vehicles to spot drugs, guns, and stolen cars.
01:11:39.480Five, build border surveillance towers that we can deploy and use to scan the landscape and detect incursions.
01:11:54.000Also, deploy truck-mounted drone systems that can spot incursions from the sky.
01:12:03.440We should keep track of who's leaving so that we know which deportees are still in our country.
01:12:11.100As I said at the outset, the government amazingly doesn't know how many people are here illegally.
01:12:17.560How are we supposed to protect our borders when there could be over a half a million people inside those borders illegally,
01:12:26.460according to the government's own admissions?
01:12:29.060We will pay for the Canada First border plan by scrapping the Liberal gun buyback and cutting bureaucracy.
01:12:35.660Hi, Michel Gassoub, CBC, and if we could get an answer in French as well, please.
01:12:38.840You're not going to ask me to step aside and let the Liberals stay in power through to eternity, as your CBC colleague said yesterday.
01:12:46.480You've called on the Prime Minister to bring back Parliament and pass your plan to counter Donald Trump's tariffs.
01:12:52.200Does that mean you're willing to work with other parties to come up with an agreed-abond plan before voting on confidence and bringing down the government?
01:13:00.720Well, of course, we can't do any of those things because Justin Trudeau and the Liberals have shut Parliament.
01:13:06.360Parliament is closed. You should direct your question to the Liberals.
01:13:10.320Why, in the middle of this crisis, have the Liberal Party powers put themselves ahead of Canadians?
01:13:18.440they're in the middle of a liberal party power struggle again concerned about themselves their
01:13:25.460own self-interest rather than immediately recalling parliament so that we can pass a
01:13:31.060canada first plan like the one i've just laid out yesterday elizabeth may said that on the
01:13:35.940federal leaders call prime minister said it become increasingly clear that there was no evidence or
01:13:40.200further actions on border security that would make any difference trump would only double down
01:13:44.360Today, Trump is talking about market access for U.S. banks.
01:13:47.260So what's your understanding of Trump's ultimate goal here,
01:13:49.680and should concessions like more market access for U.S. companies be on the table?
01:13:54.740You'd have to ask President Trump what his goals are.
01:14:00.620He's said he wants to put America first.
01:17:23.680screwed period so i cannot tell you how happy i am the trudeau knuckled under this whole team0.99
01:17:31.920canada thing now it's it's toast and that whole big wave of we will never roll over canada's a0.97
01:17:37.880proud nation we'll shut up you guys need to understand that you were pissing into the wind
01:17:45.280here that you were using pebbles against a guy who's got like a tank
01:17:50.600canada will stand up 155 billion dollars in tariffs really really well that should sink
01:18:01.520our economy in about two maybe three months and we will cease to function as a country
01:18:05.560seriously i don't know if these people who are caught up in this emotional fervor
01:18:11.200truly understood that how futile it would have been for canada to go up against the united states
01:18:20.460in a trade war, even if we're only talking about tariffs that are 25 percent.
01:18:27.540That would take its toll. So now the tariffs have been delayed for a month.
01:18:33.400And in that time, I guess Trump is going to be looking at Trudeau's response on the border.
01:18:37.900And if it's good enough, maybe he'll delay the tariffs for another 30 days and eventually just
01:18:42.440forget about them altogether. Although he has said even today that he wants Canada to be the 51st
01:18:48.600state now speaking of donald trump he also had some words on ukraine today which i thought were
01:18:54.140very interesting we're telling uh ukraine they have very valuable rare earth we want what we put
01:19:02.240up to uh go in terms of a guarantee we want a guarantee we want we're handing them money hand
01:19:09.140over fist we're giving them equipment european is not keeping up with us they should equalize
01:19:14.340Look, we have an ocean in between. They don't. It's more important for them than it is for us, but they're way below us in terms of money, and they should be paying at least equal. They should really be paying much more than us, but let's say equal to us, and they're billions and billions of dollars below. So we're looking to do a deal with Ukraine where they're going to secure what we're giving them with their rare earth and other things.
01:19:42.380He wants Ukraine's rare earth minerals. That's hilarious. So how much money is gone to Ukraine?
01:19:53.740Here's a video of Woldemir Zelensky talking to a couple of reporters saying, I don't know where the money is, at least not all of it.
01:20:01.780Look, I once heard, and before I heard, and today we heard from the United States of America.
01:20:10.860Obviously, for those of you just listening now and not watching, you're going to have to look at your screen for the next minute and 15 seconds, because there are subtitles at the bottom.
01:20:22.200that America gave Ukraine hundreds of thousands of billion dollars.
01:20:28.200177 billion dollars, if I can tell you more clearly.
01:20:33.200This is the exact number, which supported or voted in Congress or other organizations.
01:20:40.200Look, I, as President of the United States, I tell you that we received more than 75 billion dollars.
01:20:49.200So 100 billion of these 177 people, or 200 people, we never received it.
01:21:08.200There is training, training, there is additional transport, there is not only the price on weapons, there were humanitarian programs, social programs, etc.
01:21:23.200But when they say that Ukraine during the war received 200 billion dollars for support of the army, that is not true.
01:21:31.200I don't know where all these money are.
01:21:34.200wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute hold on hold on hold on just a second0.51
01:21:38.640the americans have given 177 billion dollars to ukraine since the beginning of all this nonsense